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Observation or Presentation Nerves How to Avoid or Overcome

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#ELTchat on May 13 2015observation or presentation nerves - how to avoid or overcome.xlsx

 

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angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 10:50 @ELTExperiences Observation or Presentation nerves - how to avoid them or overcome them @Marisa_C #ELTchat
ELTchat 5/13/2015 10:50 Observation or Presentation nerves - how to avoid them or overcome them #ELTchat in 10mins
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 10:55 RT @ELTchat: Observation or Presentation nerves - how to avoid them or overcome them #ELTchat in 10mins
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:01 Hello everyone! #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:01 Hello #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:01 RT @ELTchat: Observation or Presentation nerves - how to avoid them or overcome them #ELTchat in 10mins
TheRedFellow 5/13/2015 11:01 Hi #ELTchat, I'm here for a short time today. Looking forward to the chat.
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:01 @juliacphang hello/hola! ;) #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:02 @TheRedFellow Hello Aidan! Glad you're here! #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 11:02 here in a mo #eltchat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:02 @rmoyano5 Hola! Tot bé? #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:02 @rmoyano5 Hello Rebeca! @juliacphang #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:02 Hi #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:02 @HanaTicha Hello Hana! :-) #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:02 @angelos_bollas Kalimera Angelo! Are you moderating today? #eltchat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:03 Hi @angelos_bollas and @TheRedFellow! #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:03 @rmoyano5 Shaun will be here in a mo, too! :-) #ELTChat
HanaHainsworth 5/13/2015 11:03 Hello everyone! #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:03 @HanaHainsworth Hello Distinction girl! #ELTChat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:03 @HanaTicha Hello! #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:04 Ready to talk nerves today? #ELTchat Obs and presentation related
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:04 @angelos_bollas yep! #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:04 Who is nervous during obs? #ELTChat
TheRedFellow 5/13/2015 11:05 @angelos_bollas not me. hardly ever. #ELTChat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:05 @angelos_bollas Me! And my Ss too, I think #eltchat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:05 @angelos_bolla I am usually. But this is healthy and beneficial. #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:06 @TheRedFellow Do you do sth special to overcome it? #ELTChat or is it natural?
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:06 @HanaTicha what if it is too much? Could interfere with performance, right? @angelos_bollas #ELTChat
HanaHainsworth 5/13/2015 11:06 I really didn't enjoy the Delta observations. Peer observations are fine though #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:07 @juliacphang Any advice you follow/offer to them? #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:07 @angelos_bollas I used to when I had them. Being self-employed now means my observations are "different"... #eltchat
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 11:07 @angelos_bollas No not any more #ELTChat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:07 @HanaTicha Good bit of adrenaline! #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:07 @HanaHainsworth Why's that? How was this different? Because of assessment? #ELTChat
TheRedFellow 5/13/2015 11:07 @angelos_bollas Nothing special. I just  try to take it as any other lesson.All obs are there to help me improve, not to criticise,#ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:08 Good prep can help to reduce anxiety but still..... There's an extra element in class and you can't ignore it. #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:08 RT @TheRedFellow: @angelos_bollas Nothing special. I just  try to take it as any other lesson.All obs are there to help me improve, not to …
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:08 @angelos_bollas yes, it could interfere. But hopefully that is taken into account right?  #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:08 @rmoyano5 Sure - the issue tho is what can we do to reduce it #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:09 How's the nature of the obs/presentation connected to nerves? #ELTChat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:09 @angelos_bollas Generally once we get going, it's ok! Ss usually soon forget observer there, but harder if they come in mid-lesson #ELTChat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:09 @HanaTicha The fear of the unknown! #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:09 @HanaTicha Some people say one has to imagine their audience being naked - Have you heard this one? Never worked for me #ELTChat
BobK99 5/13/2015 11:09 Sorry I'm late for #eltchat. My prep for either obs or pres is a 5 min walk in fresh air - Hard if teaching on the top floor. :-)
HanaHainsworth 5/13/2015 11:10 @angelos_bollas yeah I think it's the fact that there is so much riding on it... You feel like you need to do the 'right' thing #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:10 Exactly, but luckily it gets better with experience. #ELTChat  https://t.co/KPGNrGdY6A
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:10 @BobK99 Welcome! #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:10 @angelos_bollas I let parents in the classroom from time to time to see part of my lesson w/ their kids #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:10 RT @HanaTicha: Exactly, but luckily it gets better with experience. #ELTChat  https://t.co/KPGNrGdY6A
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:10 @angelos_bollas Yes, never helps :-) with experience, #ELTChat
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 11:10 @juliacphang @HanaTicha But isnt it the observers job to limit the unknown? #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:11 You do? Never tried this one! #ELTChat  https://t.co/tRnFVhEJf3
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:11 RT @Shaunwilden: @juliacphang @HanaTicha But isnt it the observers job to limit the unknown? #ELTChat
GlenysHanson 5/13/2015 11:11 #eltchat Having observers very frequently - once a week or more - and you stop feeling it's strange.
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:11 So, it's a matter of getting used to it.. #ELTChat  https://t.co/1tC4b0JAAf
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:12 @grabowska08 Don't forget the hashtag, Ola. #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:12 @rmoyano5 @angelos_bollas We used to do it too when I worked for a private lang school. Good practice. Parents are not prof though #ELTChat
GlenysHanson 5/13/2015 11:12 #eltchat But are you thinking of observation by tutors or managers?
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:12 @Shaunwilden @HanaTicha I was thinking more about unpredictable Ss! #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:12 @angelos_bollas I suppose here you're discussing about "formal" observation for CELTA (?) #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:12 @HanaTicha would that mean that if the obs is not a prof, nerves go away? @rmoyano5 #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:12 RT @GlenysHanson: #eltchat But are you thinking of observation by tutors or managers?
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:12 RT @juliacphang: @Shaunwilden @HanaTicha I was thinking more about unpredictable Ss! #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:13 @angelos_bollas @rmoyano5 Not really - different kind of anxiety. Maybe less daunting. #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:13 @rmoyano5 Not only - any kind of obs #ELTChat
GlenysHanson 5/13/2015 11:13 #eltchat I mainly had observers who were colleagues just interested to see what I was doing.
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 11:13 @juliacphang @HanaTicha Aha, dont you find they behave better when there’s an observer in the room? #ELTChat
TheRedFellow 5/13/2015 11:13 @GlenysHanson also, the more you observe others, the more you relax about being observed yourself, I think. #eltchat @angelos_bollas
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:14 Good point! Different kinds of anxiety depending on who observes you! #ELTChat  https://t.co/MQPojokKU6
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:14 @rmoyano5 @angelos_bollas Do you chat to parents afterwards? #ELTChat
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:14 @Shaunwilden @angelos_bollas if I've prepared well enough then no. #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:14 @GlenysHanson Less stress in this case? #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:14 @Shaunwilden @juliacphang Well, if you have a bad relationship with class - they can misbehave on purpose :-) Or to show off. #ELTChat
GlenysHanson 5/13/2015 11:14 #eltchat And I observed colleagues to learn from them. No anxiety creating for most.
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:14 Hello. Sorry am late.at work writing up obs reports but will try and join in  #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:14 @HanaTicha @angelos_bollas most of the parents I let observe my lessons are psicologists,educators, teachers :D #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:14 @Shaunwilden because of the formality of the 'event'? @juliacphang @HanaTicha #ELTChat
GlenysHanson 5/13/2015 11:15 #eltchat If the teacher feels the observer is there to judge it's bound to be anxiety inducing.
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:15 @TheRedFellow Attitude towards obs changes, right? @GlenysHanson #ELTChat
HanaHainsworth 5/13/2015 11:15 It's the unpredictability when it's a class observation that makes it scary! Presentations are more predictable #ELTChat
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 11:15 @HanaTicha @juliacphang So dont have a bad relationship with them :-) #ELTChat
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:15 @angelos_bollas @HanaTicha depends what your audience look like #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:15 @rmoyano5 @angelos_bollas Oops. That can complicate the matter. However, they are there primarily to see their kids, not you? #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:16 @KateLloyd05 Welcome! :-) #ELTChat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:16 @HanaTicha @Shaunwilden Generally better behaved with observer but can be an element of showing off, as Hana says #ELTChat
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:16 RT @GlenysHanson: #eltchat Having observers very frequently - once a week or more - and you stop feeling it's strange.
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:16 RT @GlenysHanson: #eltchat If the teacher feels the observer is there to judge it's bound to be anxiety inducing.
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:16 RT @HanaHainsworth: It's the unpredictability when it's a class observation that makes it scary! Presentations are more predictable #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:16 @HanaHainsworth How so? #ELTChat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:17 RT @GlenysHanson: #eltchat If the teacher feels the observer is there to judge it's bound to be anxiety inducing.
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:17 Think it's reassure ur self that u over notice things that go wrong in obs-observer often doesn't notice #ELTChat
GlenysHanson 5/13/2015 11:17 #eltchat Err... @angelos_bollas Less stress in which case?
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:17 @angelos_bollas @HanaHainsworth You mean with a presentation you know exactly what you're going to say? #ELTChat
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:18 @Shaunwilden @juliacphang @HanaTicha totally. Want them there always! #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:18 @rmoyano5 @angelos_bollas I see. When I observed a private class my kid attented, I was primarily interested in what my kid can do #ELTChat
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:18 RT @TheRedFellow: @GlenysHanson also, the more you observe others, the more you relax about being observed yourself, I think. #eltchat @ang…
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:18 @GlenysHanson The less formal the context, the less stress one would feel, I guess #ELTChat
HanaHainsworth 5/13/2015 11:18 It's like @juliacphang said sometimes the students do things you don't expect. Or find it too hard/easy... #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:19 Is nerves level affected if aims of obs/presentation are clearly set beforehand? #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:19 @rmoyano5 @juliacphang @Shaunwilden But I believe T should have the right to choose when s/he wants to be observed #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:20 RT @HanaTicha: @rmoyano5 @juliacphang @Shaunwilden But I believe T should have the right to choose when s/he wants to be observed #ELTChat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:20 @angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson Yes, informal obs by DoS/peer obs less stressful than inspection, fpr example #ELTChat
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 11:20 @HanaTicha @rmoyano5 @juliacphang depends on the observation type but i teen to agree #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:21 @juliacphang @HanaTicha @Shaunwilden easier said than done though! ;P #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:21 How could we help our SS overcome presentation nerves? Any ideas? #ELTChat
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:21 @angelos_bollas of course. Important to stress if its for development or assessment #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:21 @rmoyano5 @juliacphang @Shaunwilden But don't you want to show what you *can* do well rather than what can go wrong in your class? #ELTChat
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:22 @juliacphang @angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson sounds scary. Don't have those #ELTChat
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 11:22 @HanaTicha @rmoyano5 @juliacphang Personally no, I’d like to experiment and get fbk on that #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:22 @HanaTicha sometimes things that go wrong have much more to teach us  @rmoyano5 @juliacphang @Shaunwilden #ELTChat
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:22 @HanaTicha @rmoyano5 @juliacphang @Shaunwilden think they should have som say in it #eltchat
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 11:22 @HanaTicha @rmoyano5 @juliacphang but it does depend on the observation policy of the school #ELTChat
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:23 @angelos_bollas practice in speaking out in class #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:23 #ELTChat  https://t.co/LKKBv4GS9D
TheRedFellow 5/13/2015 11:23 @angelos_bollas give them plenty of time to practise. #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:23 @KateLloyd05 Rehearsals? #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:24 @TheRedFellow In front of audience? #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:24 The aim of the observer is important - does s/he want to see what you can do or what you can't? It makes a huge difference. #ELTChat
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:24 @angelos_bollas and regular trade show type presentations during course #ELTChat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:24 @angelos_bollas @HanaTicha @rmoyano5 @Shaunwilden Yes,learn from mistakes&also gd to get feedback/discuss what I could've changed #ELTChat
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 11:24 @angelos_bollas Well i am not sure a rehearsal counts for much. #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:24 @HanaTicha Aims should be known to both parties before obs, right? #ELTChat
GlenysHanson 5/13/2015 11:25 RT @HanaTicha: @rmoyano5 @juliacphang @Shaunwilden But I believe T should have the right to choose when s/he wants to be observed #ELTChat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:25 @angelos_bollas Lots of practice #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:25 @Shaunwilden Wouldn;t make SS more confident? What else could they try? #ELTChat
HanaHainsworth 5/13/2015 11:25 Make it very clear what they are being assessed on too - content/ language/ slides/ presentation etc #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:26 @angelos_bollas Sometimes the aim is not explicit though. What if your admin decides who to keep and who to let go? #ELTChat
MrHoika 5/13/2015 11:26 It can be terrifying, but 'fake it 'til you make it' seems to work for me - appear confident, and you won't look it. Can be tough! #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:26 @HanaTicha Well, there is an aim here, too. (not a healthy one but....) #ELTChat
HanaHainsworth 5/13/2015 11:27 @Shaunwilden really? I think it makes a huge difference #ELTChat
GlenysHanson 5/13/2015 11:27 #eltchat I really *liked* being observed, but just the idea of giving a presentation makes me feel ill.
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:28 @HanaTicha @angelos_bollas tricky... GOOD POINT! #eltchat
GlenysHanson 5/13/2015 11:28 #eltchat So lucky I was never inspected via an observation.
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:28 @MrHoika Like the Amy Cuddy talk http://t.co/SRLurnsOIr #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:28 @GlenysHanson So obs are different to presentations - in what sense? #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:29 Same here! #ELTChat  https://t.co/bGG4N8RhHs
TheRedFellow 5/13/2015 11:29 @Shaunwilden @HanaTicha  exactly, why trot out the same perfect lesson when being observed. don't waste chance for feedback #eltchat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:30 @GlenysHanson I was inspected once. Felt so small though I had had 20 years of teaching experience. Learned a lot from the fbk. #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:30 @juliacphang @MrHoika thanks for sharing it, Julia! :) #eltchat
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:30 @angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson u rely less on what audience does in preseNtation. More control. #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:30 RT @KateLloyd05: @angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson u rely less on what audience does in preseNtation. More control. #ELTChat
GlenysHanson 5/13/2015 11:31 @angelos_bollas I mean giving a presentation at a conference in front of 100 or more people #ELTChat
TheRedFellow 5/13/2015 11:31 @angelos_bollas maybe solo, then small groups, then whole class. #ELTChat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:31 @rmoyano5 @MrHoika No problem :) #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:31 @KateLloyd05 @angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson plus you can rehearse a lot before the actual observation #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:31 @GlenysHanson @angelos_bollas good luck! :-) #eltchat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:32 @GlenysHanson @angelos_bollas Is it because of the number of people, or because the focus is entirely on you? #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:32 @GlenysHanson Is it a matter of audience size or of the face that there are too many colleagues looking at you? #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:32 @TheRedFellow I like that one! #ELTChat
TheRedFellow 5/13/2015 11:32 @Shaunwilden @angelos_bollas really, why not? #ELTChat
GlenysHanson 5/13/2015 11:33 @KateLloyd05 @angelos_bollas #ELTChat That's why I'm a teacher not a presenter. What the students do is all important for me.
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:33 What about using technology? I like recording my voice and then video myself before an obs/presentation #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:33 RT @GlenysHanson: @KateLloyd05 @angelos_bollas #ELTChat That's why I'm a teacher not a presenter. What the students do is all important for…
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 11:33 @GlenysHanson @KateLloyd05 @angelos_bollas Yeah there is a huge difference between being a teacher and a presenter #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:34 @angelos_bollas That would scare me even more :-) #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:34 RT @Shaunwilden: @GlenysHanson @KateLloyd05 @angelos_bollas Yeah there is a huge difference between being a teacher and a presenter #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:34 @HanaTicha I meant before the actual one - as a prep activity. #ELTChat
TheRedFellow 5/13/2015 11:35 @angelos_bollas hahahha, can't stand  listening to recordings of myself. #ELTChat doesn't sound like I sound in my head.
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:35 @angelos_bollas I see. Many people hate listening to their voice. But it could work for some. Good idea. #ELTChat
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:35 RT @Shaunwilden: @GlenysHanson @KateLloyd05 @angelos_bollas Yeah there is a huge difference between being a teacher and a presenter #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:35 @TheRedFellow Same here - Had to record some tutorials for a presentation and couldn't stand listening to my voice #ELTChat
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 11:35 @TheRedFellow @angelos_bollas but it is a useful way of finding your faults #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:36 RT @Shaunwilden: @TheRedFellow @angelos_bollas but it is a useful way of finding your faults #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:36 When it comes to professional presentations, I think presenting something first online and then f2f helps #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:36 @Shaunwilden @TheRedFellow @angelos_bollas Or it's a good way of accepting things as they are. You can't change your voice much #ELTChat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:36 @TheRedFellow @angelos_bollas A lot of us said the same last week when talking about reflection! Can be v helpful though #ELTChat
HanaHainsworth 5/13/2015 11:37 For presentations I think it's best to try find an audience to do it with, that way you can get feedback! #ELTChat
GlenysHanson 5/13/2015 11:37 @angelos_bollas #ELTChat I feel I don't know who I'm doing it for. I don't get feedback from an audience as I do from students.
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:37 @HanaTicha You can change other things, tho (timing, pausing, intonation, etc.) @Shaunwilden @TheRedFellow #ELTChat
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 11:37 @HanaTicha @TheRedFellow @angelos_bollas No but you can learn when you use to much, how you use it and so and this can be changed #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:37 RT @GlenysHanson: @angelos_bollas #ELTChat I feel I don't know who I'm doing it for. I don't get feedback from an audience as I do from stu…
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:37 RT @HanaHainsworth: For presentations I think it's best to try find an audience to do it with, that way you can get feedback! #ELTChat
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:38 @angelos_bollas wish I'd had that option.first was at international academic conference #eltchat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:38 @HanaTicha @Shaunwilden @TheRedFellow @angelos_bollas again,a matter of accepting we're perfectly imperfect :) #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:38 @GlenysHanson what if you teach teachers something new? and turn presentation into 'lesson' (kind of, anyway) #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:38 @Shaunwilden @TheRedFellow @angelos_bollas Agree. I tend to speak too fast and I know because I heard a recording of my voice once #ELTChat
TheRedFellow 5/13/2015 11:38 @Shaunwilden @HanaTicha @angelos_bollas True, recoring is helpful. I just don't like the sound of my voice. #ELTChat
teflgeek 5/13/2015 11:39 HI all #eltchat.  Sorry I'm late.
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:39 @teflgeek Welcome, David! #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:40 @angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson that I do! :D #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:40 This year, I asked my SS to prepare a pecha kucha  - they saw this more fun, less presentation - lots of rehearsals, great results #ELTChat
idc74 5/13/2015 11:40 @teflgeek No need to apologise, you're not being observed. #eltchat
TheRedFellow 5/13/2015 11:40 @HanaHainsworth Agreed! #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:40 @teflgeek Hi David! Talking about giving presentations just now #ELTChat
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:41 RT @angelos_bollas: This year, I asked my SS to prepare a pecha kucha  - they saw this more fun, less presentation - lots of rehearsals, gr…
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:41 @rmoyano5 @angelos_bollas @GlenysHanson nice idea.when I have technology again......#eltchat
teflgeek 5/13/2015 11:41 Has anyone mentioned the top tips from TED?  #eltchat http://t.co/SFsIQcIDmX
HanaHainsworth 5/13/2015 11:41 Especially if you give them things to watch out for #eltchat
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 11:41 RT @teflgeek: Has anyone mentioned the top tips from TED?  #eltchat http://t.co/SFsIQcIDmX
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:42 Any tips on how to help our SS with presentation nerves? (other than lots of prep?) break it down to steps, perhaps? #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:42 RT @teflgeek: Has anyone mentioned the top tips from TED?  #eltchat http://t.co/SFsIQcIDmX
teflgeek 5/13/2015 11:42 @angelos_bollas it's not the presentation that causes nerves it's your thinking about the presentation #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:42 @rmoyano5 depends on trainee teachers' experience @GlenysHanson #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:42 @angelos_bollas Let them know they won't be criticized. #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:43 RT @teflgeek: @angelos_bollas it's not the presentation that causes nerves it's your thinking about the presentation #eltchat
teflgeek 5/13/2015 11:43 @angelos_bollas don't make the assumption it will go wrong.  make the assumption it will go right. #eltchat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:43 @angelos_bollas Will blog about it soon but we saw http://t.co/6qYvpsvkPq in @nickbilbrough's IATEFL talk #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:44 @angelos_bollas 1. good knowledge of the topic 2. Anticipate questions 3. Good nite's sleep! #eltchat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:44 @teflgeek @angelos_bollas I'm definitely much more nervous before than during a presentation #ELTChat
GlenysHanson 5/13/2015 11:44 RT @teflgeek: @angelos_bollas it's not the presentation that causes nerves it's your thinking about the presentation #eltchat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:44 RT @teflgeek: @angelos_bollas don't make the assumption it will go wrong.  make the assumption it will go right. #eltchat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:44 @teflgeek @angelos_bollas These tricks never work for meunless I truly and deeply believe in what I'm trying to convince myself of #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:44 RT @teflgeek: @angelos_bollas don't make the assumption it will go wrong.  make the assumption it will go right. #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:44 I really like number 2! #ELTChat  https://t.co/ciLqfhOLS1
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:44 So we need to go deeper with our SS's perceptions #ELTChat  https://t.co/xZcilXUbhZ
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:45 RT @juliacphang: @teflgeek @angelos_bollas I'm definitely much more nervous before than during a presentation #ELTChat
teflgeek 5/13/2015 11:45 @juliacphang because you anticipate a negative reaction.  After all, what's the worst that can happen? #eltchat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:45 @teflgeek @angelos_bollas ouhyeah! POSITIVE thinking! Always! #eltchat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:46 @teflgeek @angelos_bollas And maybe rearrange the room according to feng shui rules #eltchat #justkidding
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:46 @teflgeek Well... Everyone could hate the presentation, I could fall over, the universe could implode ;) #ELTChat
SheriOberman 5/13/2015 11:46 RT @angelos_bollas: When it comes to professional presentations, I think presenting something first online and then f2f helps #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:46 Perhaps SS (and sometimes Ts) think silence=disaster. Knowing that it is learning-taking-place would help them/us #ELTChat
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 11:46 @teflgeek @juliacphang I say that to my ss. Worst that can happen? You die, wet your pants, cry or throw up.lightens mood #eltchat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:47 @rmoyano5 @teflgeek @angelos_bollas If it helps, why not? :-) #ELTChat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 11:47 @teflgeek But seriously, you're right - feeling positive beforehand helps a lot #ELTChat
teflgeek 5/13/2015 11:47 @HanaTicha don't anticipate a reaction, just experiment by giving the presentation and seeing what reaction you get.  #eltchat
teflgeek 5/13/2015 11:48 @KateLloyd05 or they don't ask you back and you never have to do it again!  win win! #eltchat
TheRedFellow 5/13/2015 11:48 @angelos_bollas In both presentations and obs, it is imperative that T/S knows what criteria are being looked for/examined/marked. #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:48 @teflgeek I see. But once I have doubts, I can't get rid of them until it's all over. If I fail, I'll be nervous next time again. #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:48 @teflgeek That's a mindset difficult to teach tho - one either has it or not - how do we make SS think this way? @HanaTicha #ELTChat
teflgeek 5/13/2015 11:48 @juliacphang but even if you fell over, people would be concerned for you, they wouldn't think less of you! #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:48 RT @TheRedFellow: @angelos_bollas In both presentations and obs, it is imperative that T/S knows what criteria are being looked for/examine…
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 11:49 @teflgeek @juliacphang I fell over in class once, sts thought it was hilarious #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:49 @angelos_bollas @teflgeek It's about personal experience and lots of support, maybe. #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:49 @angelos_bollas thanks! I omitted number4 (a wee dram of fine Scotch to calm nerves!) #eltchat #kiddingagain
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:49 @Shaunwilden I have done so on purpose (YL back then) - they loved me forever @teflgeek @juliacphang #ELTChat
teflgeek 5/13/2015 11:49 @angelos_bollas Logically there is no difference between pretending to have confidence and actually having confidence itself. #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:50 Like for support! #ELTChat :-) https://t.co/Be7VLbtVfn
TheRedFellow 5/13/2015 11:50 #ELTchat Seeing a successful(but not too much) recording of a previous student doing similar pres. can help S understand what's required
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:50 @HanaTicha support both from Ts and from fellow SSs, right? @teflgeek #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:50 RT @rmoyano5: @angelos_bollas thanks! I omitted number4 (a wee dram of fine Scotch to calm nerves!) #eltchat #kiddingagain
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:50 @teflgeek @juliacphang agreed! People are more empathetic than we think #eltchat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:51 @HanaTicha @teflgeek @angelos_bollas ;) #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:51 @teflgeek Surely - but this has to do with the way things seem to be - what about the way they are? #ELTChat
teflgeek 5/13/2015 11:51 @Shaunwilden were you alright? #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:51 Yes! #ELTChat  https://t.co/ddHQYAZt7m
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:51 @HanaTicha @teflgeek @angelos_bollas or Tarot cards to see if it will go well! ;P x #ELTChat
teflgeek 5/13/2015 11:51 @Shaunwilden more importantly, how did you turn it into a teaching moment? #eltchat
BobK99 5/13/2015 11:52 How's this compatible with ??'s 'anticipate questions'? [Forget who, but it was #2 of 3.] #ELTChat  https://t.co/uN5YAiddV1
teflgeek 5/13/2015 11:52 @angelos_bollas if you start the students off with pretending, by the time they do it for real, they'll have it for real. #eltchat
GlenysHanson 5/13/2015 11:53 I fell over once at a conf. pres. - hardly anyone noticed For once, I'd got them working online, in groups. #eltchat https://t.co/z8wRloEu9S
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:53 @teflgeek I see your point, now! Agree completely! #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:54 @teflgeek @Shaunwilden David, you're nailing it! I'm going to follow you straight away! #eltchat
teflgeek 5/13/2015 11:54 @BobK99 think there's a difference between preparation in terms of content and nerves and anxiety in terms of delivery #eltchat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:55 @teflgeek aaaand I think I've seen you before! Barcelona maybe?? #ELTChat
TheRedFellow 5/13/2015 11:55 @angelos_bollas important not to forget-give listeners a task to do while Ss are presenting. otherwise can be excrutiatlngly boring #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 11:55 @teflgeek Yes was very early in career I slipped and went arse over, I didn’t turn into a teaching moment I just laughed along #ELTChat
teflgeek 5/13/2015 11:55 RT @TheRedFellow: @angelos_bollas important not to forget-give listeners a task to do while Ss are presenting. otherwise can be excrutiatln…
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:56 @teflgeek I think you use this to built rapport and kind of.. stop being the 'serious' stereotype @Shaunwilden #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:56 RT @TheRedFellow: @angelos_bollas important not to forget-give listeners a task to do while Ss are presenting. otherwise can be excrutiatln…
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:56 @Shaunwilden @teflgeek hahaha! (Sorry!) #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:56 @Shaunwilden @teflgeek I think there's nothing else you can do but laugh and let Ss laugh too. :-) #ELTChat
teflgeek 5/13/2015 11:56 @Shaunwilden ouch! #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:57 #ELTchat is about to come to an end! Any summary writers? If you've never done it but you want to, we could help! #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 11:57 RT @angelos_bollas: #ELTchat is about to come to an end! Any summary writers? If you've never done it but you want to, we could help! #ELTc…
ELTchat 5/13/2015 11:57 RT @angelos_bollas: #ELTchat is about to come to an end! Any summary writers? If you've never done it but you want to, we could help! #ELTc…
TheRedFellow 5/13/2015 11:57 @angelos_bollas nothing worse than listening to classmates stumble through similar presentations while waiting to give yours #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:57 @HanaTicha @Shaunwilden @teflgeek and take it as an opportunity for bonding #eltchat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:58 Don't be shy potential summary writer - just say "I will"... :-) #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 11:59 Ok. I'll volunteer :-) #ELTChat
GlenysHanson 5/13/2015 11:59 #eltchat  Thanks for RTs and favourites.Still finding it difficult to keep up with you all.
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:59 @GlenysHanson You are more than welcome! :-) #ELTChat
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 11:59 @HanaTicha haha peer pressure well done @angelos_bollas #ELTChat
rmoyano5 5/13/2015 11:59 @angelos_bollas efharistó very much for moderating!It's been great,as usual! #ELTChat @juliacphang @HanaTicha @teflgeek
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 11:59 Yey!!! We have one! Thank you very much, Hana! :-) #ELTchat https://t.co/e5XBpQnkRh
TheRedFellow 5/13/2015 12:00 #eltchat Thanks again to everybody for the chat.
juliacphang 5/13/2015 12:00 @GlenysHanson Me too! Gets a little easier each week, though #ELTChat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 12:00 @angelos_bollas Who does the transcript? #ELTChat
Shaunwilden 5/13/2015 12:00 As we come to end,remember we open the call for next week’s topics shortly. Next week it’s 21.00 BST #eltchat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 12:00 @rmoyano5 @angelos_bollas @HanaTicha @teflgeek Indeed it has :) #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 12:00 @HanaTicha Will post it later here! :-) #ELTChat
HanaHainsworth 5/13/2015 12:01 Nice chatting everyone! #ELTChat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 12:01 RT @Shaunwilden: As we come to end,remember we open the call for next week’s topics shortly. Next week it’s 21.00 BST #eltchat
HanaTicha 5/13/2015 12:01 @angelos_bollas Ok, I'll watch the space then :-) bye for now. #ELTChat
KateLloyd05 5/13/2015 12:02 Yes. Cheers everyone. Interesting chat. Now back to planning a lesson for my teens #ELTChat
juliacphang 5/13/2015 12:02 Time for some lunch now! Thanks for another great #ELTChat everyone :)
teflgeek 5/13/2015 12:03 Thanks everyone! #eltchat
BobK99 5/13/2015 12:03 Thanks all at  #eltchat. :-)
angelos_bollas 5/13/2015 12:03 Bye bye everyone! #ELTchat (@Shaunwilden is it ok if I use storify for transcript? - cannot DM you)
yearinthelifeof 5/13/2015 12:05 Is the #CELTA a waste of time? https://t.co/p2RZSd2dq2 #elt #eltchat
yearinthelifeof 5/13/2015 12:06 RT @TheRedFellow: @angelos_bollas important not to forget-give listeners a task to do while Ss are presenting. otherwise can be excrutiatln…

 

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