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NikPeachey |
2015-03-25T11:33:01 |
RT @Shaunwilden: Experimenting with alternative practices/approaches/methods ; how to go about it & how to see if the idea worked!" #ELTcha… |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T11:39:27 |
I'll be using @Nurph for today's #ELTchat. Join us! Topic: How to experiment with alternative practices/approaches/methods #ELTchat |
Ashowski |
2015-03-25T11:44:32 |
@Marisa_C I've got an extraordinary meetings at immigration this morning and can't attend #ELTChat but if no one offers to write summary 1/2 |
Ashowski |
2015-03-25T11:45:00 |
@Marisa_C then let me know, as it would force me to read through transcript and get to know the #ELTChat anyway :-) 2/2 |
TwitLiveEvents |
2015-03-25T11:45:05 |
March 25, 2015 at 08:00AM Twitter Chat - #eltchat #TwitterChat Visit http://t.co/52cTeoQ3Zw for more events. |
ELTchat |
2015-03-25T11:48:31 |
Experimenting with alternative practices/approaches/methods ; how to go about it & how to see if the idea worked! in 10! #ELTchat |
ELTchat |
2015-03-25T11:49:35 |
Enter the nourish channel http://t.co/2URUvAerZI #ELTchat |
thebooksweluv |
2015-03-25T11:50:34 |
RT @TwitLiveEvents: March 25, 2015 at 08:00AM Twitter Chat - #eltchat #TwitterChat Visit http://t.co/52cTeoQ3Zw for more events. |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T11:50:42 |
RT @ELTchat Enter the nourish channel http://t.co/3lKmmVP1Ep #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T11:51:05 |
@Ashowski Thanks Anthony - you did do your experimental practice assignment on the Delta so have an idea about the topic :-) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T11:51:25 |
@angelos_bollas @ELTchat that self correct drives me nuts #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T11:52:01 |
@Marisa_C @ELTchat same here! #ELTchat |
Ashowski |
2015-03-25T11:53:03 |
@Marisa_C I certainly did ^_^ #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T11:55:56 |
@Ashowski @angelos_bollas What did you experiment on for your assignment? #ELTchat |
Ashowski |
2015-03-25T11:56:17 |
@Marisa_C Cuisenaire rods for generating lexis and ideas #ELTChat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T11:56:39 |
Hi @verapischina good to see you frequenting these parts :-) #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T11:56:43 |
@Marisa_C Dogme! #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T11:57:39 |
@jublikrang2 welcome! :-) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T11:58:28 |
Experimenting with alternative practices/approaches/methods ; how to go about it & how to see if the idea worked - beginning now #ELTchat |
verapischina |
2015-03-25T11:58:33 |
Hello! @angelos_bollas Thanks for letting us know about Nurph on FB. It seems so much easier to follow the discussion here :) #ELTchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T11:58:38 |
Monring all. Long time no #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T11:59:10 |
@teflgeek Bloody hell you still exist ;-) #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T11:59:13 |
@verapischina I hope you enjoy it! Good to see you here! #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T11:59:56 |
Welcome all - Clare/ @languageeteach who asked the question is not here as she is teaching but will try to lurk :-) #ELTchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:00:12 |
@Shaunwilden I try and pop into this universe every now and again... #eltchat |
jublikrang2 |
2015-03-25T12:00:44 |
@Marisa_C Hi all, I am new to this one #new2elt #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:00:47 |
@teflgeek Hey that was a warm welcome from your friendly moderator!!!! :-) @Shaunwilden #ELTchat |
textivate |
2015-03-25T12:00:51 |
The #eltchat topic this week sounds interesting#langchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:01:07 |
@teflgeek Nice to see you, looking forward to seeing u in person in a couple of weeks in manchester #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:01:22 |
@jublikrang2if you need any help, let us know! :-) Welcome @Marisa_C #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:01:24 |
@jublikrang2 If new to this chat pls ask @Shaunwilden or me for help #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:02:14 |
@Shaunwilden @teflgeek going to Manchester as well - see u there! #ELTchat |
jublikrang2 |
2015-03-25T12:02:24 |
@angelos_bollas @jublikrang2if @Marisa_C Thanks ! Am pretty new to Elt as well so may have many questions in future #new2elt #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:02:42 |
So, shall we kick off then? Clare not here - but it IS an interesting topic #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:02:43 |
@Marisa_C Not if I can help it ;-) #eltchat |
verapischina |
2015-03-25T12:03:00 |
@Marisa_C that makes two of us :) #new2elt #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:03:02 |
@Shaunwilden ok try and avoid me #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:03:23 |
@Marisa_C I cant you are doing something at my PCE ;-) #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:03:32 |
@verapischina but this nurph thingie is really cool and makes it easy #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:03:54 |
@Shaunwilden can always withdraw #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:04:08 |
@Marisa_C Until they sponsor this chat we should stop giving them free publicity ;-) #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:04:24 |
@Marisa_C Nooooo you know i am looking forward to annoying you #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:05:02 |
So - annoying fellow moderators aside, don't you think teachers are into the experimentation business ANYWAY? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:05:23 |
I try things out on a daily basis #ELTchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:05:32 |
@Marisa_C every lesson is - to some extent - an experiment #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:05:32 |
@Marisa_Cstorms out closes twitter and sulks #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:05:45 |
But what @languageeteach is asking is how to be more organized about it #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:05:55 |
@Marisa_C Can I say no I dont think they do in the way you mean experimentation #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:06:52 |
@Shaunwilden I agree - see my previous tweet #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:07:02 |
@Marisa_C Not really - I learned how to do it in Delta - before that, same things every day #eltchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:07:22 |
@teflgeek @Marisa_C Yes, I would agree with that #eltchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:07:57 |
@teflgeek @Marisa_C The same is true of other aspects like marking too - can experiment ith different tones etc #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:08:02 |
@angelos_bollas So perhaps teachers who have some training or find out things online get involved in class trialling #ELTchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:08:14 |
@patrickelt @Marisa_C But I guess it's the way you learn (or not) from it that makes the difference - what you do with the data #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:08:51 |
ELT has inherent difficulties with numerical, quantitative studies and data #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:09:09 |
@Marisa_C Yes - for me sharing about a new technique let's say, has become an additional incentive #ELTchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:09:24 |
@Marisa_C too much is context dependent - all we can really say is "it worked for me" #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:09:32 |
on the other hand, class research does not yield what we would call statistically significant results #ELTchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:09:43 |
@teflgeek @Marisa_C I suppose this relates to quality of reflection #eltchat |
textivate |
2015-03-25T12:09:55 |
RT @teflgeek: @Marisa_C every lesson is - to some extent - an experiment #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:10:03 |
Which makes me very wary and negative towards all these posts about evidence based teaching #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:10:05 |
@teflgeek Isn't this the reason why we should become more systematic about it? @Marisa_C #eltchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:10:33 |
@teflgeek @Marisa_C Yes and with that group of learners #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:10:35 |
@angelos_bollas @teflgeek How could we be more systematic? Good Questions #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:10:44 |
@Marisa_C Does it need to be statistically significant? #ELTchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:11:19 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C but how do you define your results? What constitutes a successful experiment? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:11:42 |
@Shaunwilden there is a big divide at the mo btwn ppl who want research evidence - yes this DOES need to be statistically signif #ELTchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:11:43 |
@Marisa_C @angelos_bollas @teflgeek ..but is that entirely the point? Do we not always need to react to different contexts? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:11:53 |
@teflgeek @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C Doesn’t depend on what the goals are they could be t or sts related or both #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:11:56 |
@Marisa_C ELT programs lack modules on qualitative/quantitative research-same true for Diplomas.No training - how could we do it? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:11:57 |
and people who accept the fact tht this is impossible #ELTchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:12:17 |
@Marisa_C @angelos_bollas @teflgeek ..and is there not a need to learn from experience as well as from systematic research #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:12:30 |
@Marisa_C Yeah but does an exp say on using rods need to be so in depth? #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:12:50 |
@patrickelt Shouldn't we be able to do so? @Marisa_C @teflgeek #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:13:02 |
@patrickelt @angelos_bollas @teflgeek of course there is - if i look at what i do or preach.... it's mostly experience #ELTchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:14:14 |
@Shaunwilden @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C Exactly. You need to develop a set of objective measures for every aspect of teaching. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:14:19 |
Most of it is backed up by some reading some theory some evidence but not only - it's class experiences that guide teachers #ELTchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:14:20 |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Agree with you. Something like this can be useful in some contexts but why generalise? #eltchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:14:26 |
hello #eltchat folks - joining now - imo, anything that is supported by evidence gets credibility. |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:14:50 |
@teflgeek @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C Yes agreed, all i am saying is that they dont need to be that formal #eltchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:14:52 |
@Marisa_C and belief. #eltchat |
JoyOfESL |
2015-03-25T12:14:53 |
Sorry to join late. Anyone talking about dogme? I don't seem to be seeing all the tweets. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:15:18 |
Erm we have rules on the use of the d word #eltchat ;-) |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:15:21 |
@Marisa_C Many teachers are not even aware of any form of research. They do so mostly by intuition and experience. #eltchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:15:34 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C @teflgeek Some research is useful but not sure quantitative research is always so important #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:15:54 |
@teflgeek without values and beliefs, a philosophy of education in a sense, nothing much can be chosen/evaluated consciously #ELTchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:15:58 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C @teflgeek Qualitative detailed studies within contexts may be more useful #eltchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:16:06 |
@JoyOfESL Not exactly. It's on the need to support new approaches by research. #eltchat hope I got it right. |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:16:19 |
@patrickelt not sure if this is a q of more/less - we def need some quant. evidence, don't we? @Marisa_C @teflgeek #eltchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:16:42 |
@Marisa_C yes, but what works for one teacher might be because they believe in it and another teacher might not, so it doesn't. #eltchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:17:00 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C @teflgeek Do we? I am not sure why. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:17:12 |
@teflgeek that was tho the problem with most of the approaches and methods research :-) #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:17:35 |
@angelos_bollas Furthermore all teachers need not be trained in quantitative research. @patrickelt @Marisa_C @teflgeek #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:17:51 |
@patrickelt It'll make sharing exp much easier and effective. And we would know why sth works or not @Marisa_C @teflgeek #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:17:57 |
I believe we have to move to HOW to plan and do good class research or even less formal, sensible class trialling #ELTchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:18:03 |
@patrickelt @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C Because you see patterns in the larger data that don't show elsewhere. You need both IMO. #eltchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:18:32 |
@Marisa_C Isn't that what makes teaching such a unique and challenging thing. @teflgeek #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:18:56 |
@cherrymp but it really helps-not for teaching per se - for writing about, sharing, training, etc. @patrickelt @Marisa_C @teflgeek #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:19:01 |
@teflgeek agree David - but experimental design not part of most teacher courses - i did it bcz of MA in Applied Linguistics #ELTchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:19:26 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C @teflgeek Quantitive research rarely if ever shows why something works. #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:19:37 |
@Marisa_C First step: Read the lit, right? #eltchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:19:45 |
@Marisa_C I agree w/ you Marisa. Many teachers are not trained to do any form of research. @teflgeek #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:19:45 |
RT @cherrymp: @Marisa_C Isn't that what makes teaching such a unique and challenging thing. @teflgeek #eltchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:19:51 |
RT @angelos_bollas: @Marisa_C First step: Read the lit, right? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:20:07 |
@patrickelt that's what i learnt at uni - also how to lie with statistics :-D #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:20:28 |
@patrickelt It shows if it does or doesn't though to a context larger than the classroom @Marisa_C @teflgeek #eltchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:20:28 |
@teflgeek @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C But what kinds of patterns will emerge? They usually seem to be vague #eltchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:20:40 |
@angelos_bollas Yes. Reading about others' research helps a lot. To begin with one can even replicate studies in one's own context. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:20:50 |
RT @cherrymp: @angelos_bollas Yes. Reading about others' research helps a lot. To begin with one can even replicate studies in one's own co… |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:21:06 |
RT @cherrymp: @angelos_bollas Yes. Reading about others' research helps a lot. To begin with one can even replicate studies in one's own co… |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:21:08 |
@teflgeek @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C What I say is not always true but many that are more specific are not very large scale #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:21:29 |
A good source for teachers to read about accessible - more or less - research is ELTJ #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:21:41 |
RT @Marisa_C: A good source for teachers to read about accessible - more or less - research is ELTJ #ELTchat |
verapischina |
2015-03-25T12:21:52 |
RT @Marisa_C: A good source for teachers to read about accessible - more or less - research is ELTJ #ELTchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:21:53 |
@patrickelt If you measure student success with reading (e.g FCE) and try different approaches and one approach gets betters scores #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:21:57 |
Most of the refereed research journals too dense and inaccessible as language to average teacher #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:22:16 |
@angelos_bollas May be what they call as variables. But in research identifying/controlling them not easy. #eltchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:22:35 |
@patrickelt then you have some qualitative data that shows a more effective approach to teaching reading. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:22:42 |
academics use the power lingo or other academics to remain abstruse and unreachable in their ivory towers (they wish they were twrs #ELTchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:23:17 |
@Marisa_C not completly true. They mostly do it to cover their backs and hide from other academics. #eltchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:23:23 |
@Marisa_C Also if teachers develop a habit of reading any journal, then imo it will become "accessible". #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:23:28 |
... sorry it should say above "of other academics" auto correct! #ELTchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:23:29 |
@teflgeek Understand your point but questions of validity and reliability - is the test actually a good measure of reading #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:23:32 |
@Marisa_C I think this is changing, though. Slowly but... #eltchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:23:56 |
@teflgeek Are the groups at the same starting point? #eltchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:24:06 |
@patrickelt absolutely. but I think quantitative resarch has a lot to offer here. #eltchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:24:41 |
@teflgeek LOL! Mostly true. It's the lingo that makes all the difference; not the idea. @Marisa_C #eltchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:24:46 |
@teflgeek Qualitative studies of how students actually take on different strategies as result of your approach may be more useful #eltchat |
pjgallantry |
2015-03-25T12:25:02 |
#eltchat hello all....mostly lurking today.... |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:25:05 |
The general belief of academics is that teacher research ought to feed into larger scale investigations - but path unclear #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:25:18 |
@angelos_bollas Why do you think so? @Marisa_C #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:25:29 |
@pjgallantry hi there - lurk all ya like :-D #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:25:55 |
@pjgallantry hello! lurk and enjoy #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:26:24 |
@cherrymp The younger the academics the more down to earth - I see it in my uni. Maybe not everywhere true @Marisa_C #ELTchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:26:27 |
@teflgeek Think quantitative research is very useful for the study of the language but not convinced re: pedagogy #eltchat |
pjgallantry |
2015-03-25T12:26:29 |
#eltchat I'd argue a problem with language research is that each lesson is essentially a unique experiment |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:26:37 |
School of One (@InnovateNYCedu) uses achievement data to plan personalised learning programmes. Big Ed data can be a good thing #eltchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:26:42 |
@patrickelt Also is it the approach alone that made the difference is debatable. @teflgeek #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:26:54 |
Have we not skewed the topic somewhat into the area of research? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:27:34 |
@Shaunwilden We have - you are right - but this is pulled by the participants' interests no? #ELTchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:27:48 |
@patrickelt it depends on the purpose of the research #eltchat. Are you doing it to make everyone do it or to try and make yourself better? |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:27:50 |
Have tried to bring back to topic focus :-) #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:28:50 |
@angelos_bollas So are the bloggers. Some are able to connect practice with theory in an accessible way. Eg: @thornburyscott #eltchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:28:51 |
@teflgeek @InnovateNYCedu There csan be useful big data (eg about the benefits of mixed ability) but this seems at a diff level #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:28:52 |
@teflgeek Hopefully the first! @patrickelt #eltchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:29:00 |
@cherrymp @teflgeek Yes, agree. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:29:06 |
I think it might be a good idea to comback to a teacher experimenting with an activity type or method 2check out its effectiveness #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:29:19 |
@Marisa_C I think there is an overlap but I didn’t see research as what the topic was asking #eltchat |
pjgallantry |
2015-03-25T12:29:24 |
#eltchat comparing and contrasting two different approaches to see which is 'better' v hard unless you have absolutely identical classes |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:29:27 |
@Marisa_C has anyone mentioned the action research cycle yet? #eltchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:29:32 |
@Marisa_C And many are paid too which most often teachers cannot afford. #eltchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:29:33 |
@Shaunwilden Yes, sorry. #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:29:44 |
@cherrymp Not sure if this is proper for blogging or better for a personal resource page, though #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:29:56 |
@teflgeek have tried to - this is what we need - pls go ahead #ELTchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:30:55 |
RT @teflgeek https://t.co/YyCCEm7RvD #eltchat |
tefljobslondon |
2015-03-25T12:31:24 |
RT @Marisa_C: "Experimenting with alternative practices/approaches/methods ; how to go about it & how to see if the idea worked!" #ELTchat … |
tefljobslondon |
2015-03-25T12:31:43 |
Follow #ELTchat right now! |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:32:01 |
Here is a very good book on google books on Qualitative research 'Voices from the classroom" https://t.co/1p5ZpAF2BL #ELTchat |
jublikrang2 |
2015-03-25T12:32:09 |
Am doing an Elt teacher course& we are looking closely variables & getting learners understand how they learn best #new2elt #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:32:15 |
@angelos_bollas But bloggers who could help teachers see the theory-practice connect can help them learn in an informal way. #eltchat |
fionamau |
2015-03-25T12:32:22 |
Hi there. Sorry to ask but what's the topic? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:32:52 |
@fionamau Experimenting with alternative practices/approaches/methods ; how to go about it & how to see if the idea worked! #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:32:53 |
RT @Marisa_C: Here is a very good book on google books on Qualitative research 'Voices from the classroom" https://t.co/1p5ZpAF2BL #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:33:07 |
@fionamau we ve lost track a bit but what @Shaunwilden said #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:33:19 |
@cherrymp How informal it is when it looks like yet another page from a book? #eltchat |
SophiaKhan4 |
2015-03-25T12:33:25 |
RT @tefljobslondon: Follow #ELTchat right now! |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:33:43 |
@angelos_bollas Not very helpful. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:33:45 |
@cherrymp @angelos_bollas I don't think bloggers are qualified more than a colleague int he staffroom - just more audience #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:34:12 |
So, is anyone doing action research, or experimentation w/ diff practices? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:34:20 |
@Marisa_C @cherrymp @angelos_bollas And extra motivation? #ELTchat |
pjgallantry |
2015-03-25T12:34:22 |
#eltchat maybe the focus of class research is wrong: maybe instead of investigating the method, we first observe lang learner behaviour... |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:34:43 |
@Marisa_C So you mean those who do research don't blog and vice versa! @angelos_bollas #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:35:15 |
@cherrymp no please don't read what i have not said in my tweets :-) #ELTchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:35:23 |
@angelos_bollas every now and again. #eltchat. When I have time between teaching engagements! |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:35:26 |
@pjgallantry Yes, this is the key #eltchat |
pjgallantry |
2015-03-25T12:35:37 |
#eltchat ..that is, we observe the learners' reactions to the tasks they do, & what happens to e.g. motivation |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:36:14 |
@Marisa_C true! @cherrymp #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:36:18 |
I think what teachers can investigate is learner reaction to activity or method - but this not always obvious or measurable #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:36:23 |
RT @angelos_bollas: So, is anyone doing action research, or experimentation w/ diff practices? #eltchat > Not me! #eltchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:36:32 |
@pjgallantry but in action research, isn't that the kind of data we gather no matter what we're trying to find out? #eltchat |
SophiaKhan4 |
2015-03-25T12:36:49 |
@cherrymp @Marisa_C @angelos_bollas The ivory tower issue is endemic - researchers r writing for academia not us 1/2 #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:36:50 |
@Marisa_C No but it is a starting point nevertheless #ELTchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:37:07 |
@pjgallantry Yes and we can also remember that they keep experimenting wth how they react #eltchat |
BobK99 |
2015-03-25T12:37:12 |
Tuning in late to #eltchat - catching up :-) |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:37:46 |
@pjgallantry For example, they might try different strategies- presumably teachers can encourage this #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:37:48 |
In the past, we used to run a great course that involved class research but for a longer stint than 1 lesson - Ts had to do 20 1/2 #ELTchat |
SophiaKhan4 |
2015-03-25T12:38:00 |
@cherrymp @Marisa_C @angelos_bollas ...Bloggers who build bridges between research and practice e.g. @thornburyscott r very useful #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:38:03 |
@Marisa_C And to a certain extend it depends on the teacher's ability to set the new practice,rather than the practice itself, no? #eltchat |
pjgallantry |
2015-03-25T12:38:09 |
#ELTchat we should also have an instrument for measuring TEACHERS' reactionsto/expectations of different methods/approaches |
jankenb2 |
2015-03-25T12:38:11 |
#eltchat A good way to determine effacacy of a practice is to collect feedback from Ss during X intervals. Assessing process & persistence. |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:38:40 |
@SophiaKhan4 @cherrymp @Marisa_C @angelos_bollas I think they are writing for both but their jobs depend on the academic audience #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:38:42 |
2/2 ..20 lessons, and then reflect on reactions AND results of teaching #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:38:49 |
@patrickelt The observation needs to be systematic, should be guided by a problem & shoud lead to something. @pjgallantry #eltchat |
SophiaKhan4 |
2015-03-25T12:38:53 |
@BobK99 Me too - sorry - hi everyone! #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:38:54 |
@teflgeek Do you repeat same experiments over and over with diff students? Is this helpful? #eltchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:39:00 |
This data is very difficult to gather WHILE teaching - it can be useful to get an observer into your class #eltchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:39:28 |
@angelos_bollas No. Just when I want t know something. #eltchat |
pjgallantry |
2015-03-25T12:39:29 |
@teflgeek I think we may try to- whether we actually do so, however....#eltchat |
SophiaKhan4 |
2015-03-25T12:39:34 |
@patrickelt @cherrymp @Marisa_C @angelos_bollas Yes that's the thing. Interesting article on this: http://t.co/37UhVHSnn7 #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:39:35 |
@SophiaKhan4 Very few of those @thornburyscott is someone who can report research in a simple way for teachers #ELTchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:40:17 |
@angelos_bollas Sometimes I get the students to experiment - does this exam strategy work for you? Are you getting higher scores? #eltchat |
jankenb2 |
2015-03-25T12:40:25 |
Using alt meth encompasses a wide def. For ex alt practice can reversal of leader (Ss/Ts centered) or logic (inductive, deductive) #eltchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:40:25 |
RT @SophiaKhan4: Interesting article on why academic writing is so academic: http://t.co/W1zdlSeF6F #eltchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:41:26 |
@teflgeek So you use a variety of tools to access the data that will hopefully lead you somewhere. @angelos_bollas #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:41:43 |
I think repeating the same class trialling procedure is useful but getting FB from Ss and colleagues can inform repetitions #ELTchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:42:19 |
@Marisa_C @SophiaKhan4 @thornburyscott "Clear way" rather than just a "simple way" - same is true of @GeoffreyJordan #ELTchat |
SophiaKhan4 |
2015-03-25T12:42:36 |
@Marisa_C True. Could add @leoselivan and @muranava on lexical/corpora things & @ebefl for questioning accepted wisdom. #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:42:43 |
RT @Marisa_C: I think repeating the same class trialling procedure is useful but getting FB from Ss and colleagues can inform repetitions #… |
JoyOfESL |
2015-03-25T12:42:52 |
I recently implemented a different approach but was lucky to have the idea already well researched #eltchat http://t.co/dQ3JV7K45w |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:42:53 |
@pjgallantry true. #eltchat |
textivate |
2015-03-25T12:43:07 |
#eltchat So... what sort of things are people experimenting with? |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:43:14 |
@jankenb2 Feedback helps. But at times Ss can be very kind to their teachers in some cultures. #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:43:34 |
RT @Marisa_C: I think repeating the same class trialling procedure is useful but getting FB from Ss and colleagues can inform repetitions #… |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:43:51 |
@cherrymp @angelos_bollas Well, different things work for different people. One size does not fit all. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:43:57 |
RT @textivate: #eltchat So... what sort of things are people experimenting with? |
jankenb2 |
2015-03-25T12:44:01 |
#eltchat Determining value of a changed practice must be assessed w/in context of the experiment. The dynamics include class/current events |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:44:18 |
@cherrymp @angelos_bollas So it's about finding what works best for the different individuals in the classroom. #eltchat |
JoyOfESL |
2015-03-25T12:44:19 |
Sorry, have to run from car to classroom now. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:44:22 |
@SophiaKhan4 don't feel so confident that i would trust any of those for my reading :-) #ELTchat |
patrickelt |
2015-03-25T12:44:50 |
@SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C @leoselivan @muranava @ebefl Yes, I agree. Those are all good sources. #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:45:15 |
RT @SophiaKhan4: Could add @leoselivan and @muranava on lexical/corpora things & @ebefl for questioning accepted wisdom. #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:45:44 |
RT @teflgeek: @cherrymp @angelos_bollas Well, different things work for different people. One size does not fit all. #eltchat |
jankenb2 |
2015-03-25T12:46:05 |
@cherrymp #eltchat Y, so create several types of feedback: obj/subjective, sampling, formeval etc. 4 ex, a KWL chart w/WD (will do) column |
SueAnnan |
2015-03-25T12:46:23 |
Hello. In at the end, as usual #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:46:33 |
We have to get back to the action research cycle - once you have defined an area - how do you collect info/data? #ELTchat |
SophiaKhan4 |
2015-03-25T12:47:09 |
@Marisa_C That's ok :) Just saying that bloggers can be bridges that help Ts question & access further reading - we need that #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:47:09 |
RT @Marisa_C: We have to get back to the action research cycle - once you have defined an area - how do you collect info/data? #ELTchat |
dimodeca |
2015-03-25T12:47:24 |
RT @muranava: PHaVE #phrasalverb dictionary now with added TED video examples http://t.co/feVV1F8lKr #eltchat #keltchat #auselt #AusELT #es… |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:47:26 |
@SueAnnan But always at the front in getting those #eltchat transcripts ready! |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:47:27 |
@jankenb2 has listed some #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2015-03-25T12:47:43 |
@Marisa_C make an observation instrument? #ELTchat |
jankenb2 |
2015-03-25T12:47:47 |
#eltchat asking Ss to exlain how this new knowledge/process/activity will help in thier future learning is both evalative & lrning event |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:47:49 |
@SophiaKhan4 yes true - some of it is also a lot of noise :-D #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:48:10 |
@SueAnnan for both learners and colleagues @Marisa_C #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:48:26 |
@SophiaKhan4 Agree with you on that 'bridging' part. #eltchat @Marisa_C |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:48:42 |
@SueAnnan yes - like a questionnaire or coding instrument you mean? #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:48:58 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C What do you mean? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:49:08 |
@cherrymp @SophiaKhan4 agree as well on the bridging concept #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:49:20 |
@Marisa_C How you collect is closely linked with what you want to collect. E.g. S satisfaction needs to have S feedback.#eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:49:48 |
RT @cherrymp: @Marisa_C How you collect is closely linked with what you want to collect. E.g. S satisfaction needs to have S feedback.#eltc… |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:49:53 |
Can recordings audio or video for example help in any way? #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:50:04 |
RT @Marisa_C: Can recordings audio or video for example help in any way? #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2015-03-25T12:50:05 |
@Marisa_C yes.#ELTchat |
jankenb2 |
2015-03-25T12:50:16 |
@SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C Bloggers are impt links to ed rsrch. Consider blogging an empty canvas It builds momentum & then formalized. #eltchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:50:17 |
Couldn't get this quote into a single tweet - hence pic. #eltchat http://t.co/gDwy1P28BY |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:50:33 |
@Marisa_C They do! Have done it in the past and what those recordings revealed where astonishing! #eltchat |
pjgallantry |
2015-03-25T12:50:34 |
#ELTchat @Marisa_C collect data anecdotally, e.g. via surveys, through testing and objective info, e.g. from peer observation |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T12:50:50 |
@Marisa_C In the sense that feedback we receive will be wider and varied - not only colleagues from same school #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:51:02 |
RT @teflgeek: Couldn't get this quote into a single tweet - hence pic. #eltchat http://t.co/oCG1dsGpKn > very true |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:51:42 |
RT @teflgeek: Couldn't get this quote into a single tweet - hence pic. #eltchat http://t.co/gDwy1P28BY |
jankenb2 |
2015-03-25T12:51:57 |
@cherrymp @Marisa_C Yes, But recognizing & inclding forms of eval demo lrning transferred to other contexts is key. #eltchat |
SophiaKhan4 |
2015-03-25T12:52:00 |
@teflgeek Still true - so many overlapping i& interacting variables it's almost impossible to separate strands out. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:52:02 |
@teflgeek agree with you fully - have supported many projects and difficult to decide if Ss better BECAUSE subject of investigatn #ELTchat |
pjgallantry |
2015-03-25T12:52:13 |
#eltchat it's not enough to rely on a single method to capture a comprehensive view of the lesson(s) as they happen. |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:52:31 |
@cherrymp did you record once or at various points over time? #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:52:47 |
@Marisa_C Very often audio recordings are easier to implement than videos. #eltchat |
taskmagic |
2015-03-25T12:52:49 |
RT @teflgeek: Couldn't get this quote into a single tweet - hence pic. #eltchat http://t.co/gDwy1P28BY |
textivate |
2015-03-25T12:52:49 |
RT @teflgeek: Couldn't get this quote into a single tweet - hence pic. #eltchat http://t.co/gDwy1P28BY |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:52:52 |
RT @languageeteach: Has anyone used pscyhodrama in their teaching?Humanistic? Hippyish? http://t.co/b29gEyfRlZ #ELTchat |
sergiolm21 |
2015-03-25T12:53:17 |
RT @teflgeek: Couldn't get this quote into a single tweet - hence pic. #eltchat http://t.co/gDwy1P28BY |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:53:18 |
@cherrymp @Marisa_C though with tablets these days it is easier than ever to capture video #eltchat |
pjgallantry |
2015-03-25T12:53:25 |
#ELTchat have to remember that a class is a dynamic entity, while methods tend to be more 'fixed' as it were...1/2 |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:53:25 |
@SophiaKhan4 which is why action research is so useful to the single teacher - it's all about you! #eltchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:53:43 |
@Marisa_C It was full CR recordings for a few days at least. #eltchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:53:56 |
RT @teflgeek: @SophiaKhan4 which is why action research is so useful to the single teacher - it's all about you! #eltchat > Agree! |
pjgallantry |
2015-03-25T12:54:05 |
#ELTchat 2/2...so when testing method in any given class, we are observing a snapshot of it in practice. |
languageeteach |
2015-03-25T12:54:06 |
@Shaunwilden ~Thanks. Forgot how the hashtag. Am in a rush #Eltchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:54:57 |
@Marisa_C problem with much action research is that it takes teacher focus OFF the students on onto something else. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:55:14 |
Yes! class research is for the benefit of one T and her Ss but also a useful tool to get OTHER Ts to question and reflect #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:55:18 |
@Shaunwilden That's true. But somebody has to be there to record is what I meant whereas the audio recorder can be in pocket. #eltchat |
jankenb2 |
2015-03-25T12:55:26 |
@SophiaKhan4 @teflgeek Yes, We never know how Ts input changes Ss output Think systems lrning; a spider web reaction w/each input. #eltchat |
SophiaKhan4 |
2015-03-25T12:55:52 |
@teflgeek Or even…your students! We can only do our best to maximise learning but in the end, it's they who do it #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:56:02 |
@Marisa_C Only if it is recorded and reported. #eltchat |
jankenb2 |
2015-03-25T12:56:22 |
@teflgeek @Marisa_C That is why you have designed the plan with periodic data collection pts that are both obj & sub. #eltchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:57:14 |
@SophiaKhan4 It needn't always focus on the students. It could be the teacher who researches his/her practice. @teflgeek #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T12:57:38 |
We will be needing a summary writer…….#eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:57:40 |
Another very good book to inform Ts " Focus on the Language Classroom" Bailey with Allwright https://t.co/kykz70a5DQ #ELTchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T12:57:59 |
@jankenb2 @Marisa_C @shaunwilden - Maybe there's a market for a short course in educational research techniques? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:58:04 |
Sorry my links huge cos on google books #ELTchat |
SophiaKhan4 |
2015-03-25T12:58:24 |
@Shaunwilden I think someone who couldn;t attend may have volunteered earlier? Not sure #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:58:38 |
@teflgeek @jankenb2 @shaunwilden there may be - we used to offer one in the past but interest has dropped here #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T12:58:54 |
@teflgeek I think there is. Teachers need to know the what, the why and the how of research. @jankenb2 @Marisa_C @shaunwilden #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T12:59:41 |
May be we should organise one again - accepting proposals here :-) #ELTchat |
SophiaKhan4 |
2015-03-25T12:59:47 |
@cherrymp @teflgeek But don't they inevitable intersect? As in practice is evaluated effect on sts? #eltchat |
MichaelChesnut2 |
2015-03-25T12:59:59 |
RT @teflgeek: Couldn't get this quote into a single tweet - hence pic. #eltchat http://t.co/gDwy1P28BY |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T13:01:23 |
@SophiaKhan4 There is this connection of student learning and teacher effectiveness. But don't know how valid that is! @teflgeek #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T13:02:13 |
Just a quick reminder by @Shaunwilden - next week last #eltchat - we will be at IATEFL - 4/5 moderators so quite difficult #ELTchat |
jublikrang2 |
2015-03-25T13:02:14 |
good article about anecdotal data /Nunan: Seven hypotheses about language teaching and learning (Tesol Matters) #new2Elt #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T13:02:17 |
Don’t forget Europe does its clock thing at the weekend so next week is 21.00 BST NOT GMT #ELTchat |
jankenb2 |
2015-03-25T13:02:18 |
@cherrymp @SophiaKhan4 @teflgeek Reflection on practice is a alt meth itself. Formally called integrated action or theory in action #eltchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T13:02:21 |
@SophiaKhan4 And what I meant is that there could be a strand which leads to the teacher as well. Needn't always be Ss. @teflgeek #eltchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T13:02:28 |
@cherrymp @SophiaKhan4 It's all about how much everybody cares about what they're doing in the classroom. How do you measure that? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T13:02:30 |
RT @Shaunwilden: Don’t forget Europe does its clock thing at the weekend so next week is 21.00 BST NOT GMT #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2015-03-25T13:03:12 |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden and clocks change at the weekend #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T13:03:20 |
After next week we break for two weeks @Shaunwilden ?? #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T13:03:46 |
RT @Shaunwilden: Don’t forget Europe does its clock thing at the weekend so next week is 21.00 BST NOT GMT #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T13:03:47 |
@Marisa_C argue now confused ;-) i would say yes - easter and IATEFL #eltchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T13:03:57 |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Are we having an #eltchat Tweetup in Manchester? #Socialdiaryfillingup |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T13:04:02 |
@teflgeek I think the act of voluntary class trialling is indicative of a desire for change and continuous develoment #ELTchat |
SophiaKhan4 |
2015-03-25T13:04:06 |
@cherrymp @teflgeek Sorry yes, that's true :) #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T13:04:39 |
@teflgeek @Shaunwilden I think we should - yes - we need to gather the flock and have some time f-2-f #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T13:04:59 |
RT @Marisa_C: I think the act of voluntary class trialling is indicative of a desire for change and continuous development #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T13:05:37 |
@Shaunwilden Greek easter is IATEFL time for me #ELTchat |
jankenb2 |
2015-03-25T13:05:38 |
@teflgeek @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Begin by isolating theory. What will chnge? Practice, resource, Ss pop etc. Create 2/evals sub/obj #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
2015-03-25T13:05:39 |
Using the end of #ELTchat to plug the new podcast http://t.co/mKq2KK6hEp #marissawilltellmeoff |
SophiaKhan4 |
2015-03-25T13:05:54 |
RT @Shaunwilden: Using the end of #ELTchat to plug the new podcast http://t.co/mKq2KK6hEp #marissawilltellmeoff |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T13:06:10 |
@Shaunwilden ARRRGGHHHHH - GRRRRRR #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T13:06:32 |
@Marisa_C @teflgeek @Shaunwilden sorry to miss that :-( #ELTchat |
iPrOud82 |
2015-03-25T13:06:51 |
Miss chatting with you and gonna be available just when you take a break #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T13:07:08 |
RT @Shaunwilden: Using the end of #ELTchat to plug the new podcast http://t.co/mKq2KK6hEp #marissawilltellmeoff |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T13:07:16 |
RT @Shaunwilden: Using the end of #ELTchat to plug the new podcast http://t.co/vOhgpmzDBR |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T13:07:38 |
@iPrOud82 we'll be back soon - we'll tweet stuff from iatefl on our hashtag and remember so many live talks online to watch! #ELTchat |
SophiaKhan4 |
2015-03-25T13:08:00 |
@teflgeek @cherrymp So many variables! #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T13:08:20 |
RT @Marisa_C: @iPrOud82 we'll be back soon - we'll tweet stuff from iatefl on our hashtag and remember so many live talks online to watch! … |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T13:08:30 |
RT @Marisa_C: @iPrOud82 we'll be back soon - we'll tweet stuff from iatefl on our hashtag and remember so many live talks online to watch! … |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T13:09:18 |
Thanks everyone and @Marisa_C particularly for talking about @nerph at the beginning. #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2015-03-25T13:10:10 |
Missed a bit. Who wants the transcript? #ELTchat |
teflgeek |
2015-03-25T13:10:17 |
Got to go - thanks for a great #eltchat. Nice to be back! |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T13:10:24 |
@cherrymp yay - I noticed just now you are logged into @Nurph - isn't it easier? #ELTchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T13:11:02 |
Yeah it's @Nurph - got it wrong. Guess with it I'll never miss the all important hashtag: #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T13:11:13 |
@SueAnnan @Ashowski has said he wanted to do it tho I think #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
2015-03-25T13:11:46 |
@Marisa_C @Ashowski okay. I'll get on to it now #ELTchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T13:12:07 |
@cherrymp it's a good tool, #ELTchat |
myles_klynhout |
2015-03-25T13:12:21 |
RT @teflgeek: Couldn't get this quote into a single tweet - hence pic. #eltchat http://t.co/gDwy1P28BY |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T13:13:04 |
@teflgeek good to have u back David #eltchat |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T13:13:16 |
@SophiaKhan4 And that is why a good research design is essential. @teflgeek #eltchat |
angelos_bollas |
2015-03-25T13:13:36 |
Have a great day! :-) #ELTchat |
jankenb2 |
2015-03-25T13:14:00 |
#eltchat Interesting discussion. Ts are researchers...we do it every day on informal basis & is known as "double loop learning". Good day! |
cherrymp |
2015-03-25T13:15:02 |
RT @jankenb2: #eltchat Interesting discussion. Ts are researchers...we do it every day on informal basis & is known as "double loop learnin… |
Marisa_C |
2015-03-25T13:15:46 |
@angelos_bollas @patrickelt @JoyOfESL @jublikrang2 great to have you join us - this was a lively #ELTchat tho not sure we covered the Q:-) |
michaelegriffin |
2015-03-25T13:16:38 |
RT @teflgeek: Couldn't get this quote into a single tweet - hence pic. #eltchat http://t.co/gDwy1P28BY |
daylemajor |
2015-03-25T13:23:34 |
@jankenb2 @SophiaKhan4 @teflgeek Agreed. Systems perspective important: See e.g. http://t.co/gI10xgtVZG // cc @MichaelChesnut2 #eltchat |
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