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Training Learner Autonomy

Page history last edited by sue annan 9 years, 4 months ago
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T20:57:46 3mn to go! #eltchat Tips for delegating responsibilities to students - training them for autonomy
Ashowski 2015-03-04T20:57:59 @Marisa_C what's a "nurph"? #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T20:58:04 Hi everyone! Isn't this clever? I was going to try and split-screen multitask but I feel it might scroll up too fast for me! #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T20:58:08 Hello everyone and welcome to this latest edition of the great... the fabulous.... drum roll..... #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T20:58:24 Hello everyone!  #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T20:58:32 tadaaaaaa #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T20:58:35 ^_^ At last!! :-) #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T20:58:41 @angelos_bollas what's a nurph?! #Eltchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T20:58:53 @Ashowski @Marisa_C http://t.co/5RNDgyxBNd  - @Marisa_C is trying to convert everyone to it #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T20:58:54 The word "nurph" is frustrating me :P #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T20:58:58 @Ashowski http://t.co/4FqugV6BK0 Log in! #ELTchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T20:59:03 @Ashowski It's sort of like a window for Twitter chats which auto-tags your message with the hashtag - come and play :)  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T20:59:10 Cool innate - a nurph is the little critter that represents this channel  #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T20:59:41 @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C oooooooh #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T20:59:51 For the next 60mn, all my tweets will be about tonight's #ELTCHAT  Great to be back! Following on three devices and 4 tabs. #diehard
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T20:59:57 But I agree, the word 'nurph' reminds me a little too much of the word 'Smurf' & then I get sad that the little critter isn't blue! #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T20:59:58 trying to sort out automatic correction which is mussing up my tweets  #ELTchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:00:04 Hello everyone :) #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:00:29 @bethcagnol that's dedication! #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:00:31 @Ashowski true but handy not to have to remember the hashtag #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:00:32 Tiz  #ELTchat time Tips for delegating responsibilities to students - training them for autonomy
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:00:38 For the next hour, all my tweets will be about tonight's #ELTCHAT (thanks to @bethcagnol for the idea to warn my poor followers!) #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:00:47 @bethcagnol Hello there and @Charlesrei1 welcome and let's get talking about learner autonomy  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:01:01 I think I shall leave this chat and let you do it all on your own  #ELTchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:01:05 RT @Shaunwilden: Tiz  #ELTchat time Tips for delegating responsibilities to students - training them for autonomy
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:01:15 RT @Marisa_C: I think I shall leave this chat and let you do it all on your own  #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:01:29 RT @Marisa_C: I think I shall leave this chat and let you do it all on your own  #ELTchat > but tell me how first….
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:01:40 @Marisa_C For a hands-on experience of autonomy? ^_^ #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:01:50 @angelos_bollas eggzactement!  #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:02:03 @Marisa_C @angelos_bollas loool #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:02:18 Does anyone here delegate responsibilities to students? If so, what are they? #ELTCHAT
joannacre 2015-03-04T21:02:25 @Ashowski I don't even know what a nurph is. I know what a smurf is tho :P #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:02:30 RT @bethcagnol: Does anyone here delegate responsibilities to students? If so, what are they? #ELTCHAT
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:02:46 @Marisa_C I've got your back. :-) #ELTCHAT
ELTchat 2015-03-04T21:02:54 RT @bethcagnol: Does anyone here delegate responsibilities to students? If so, what are they? #ELTCHAT
SueAnnan 2015-03-04T21:03:18 Hi GuysSorry im late #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:03:21 Have we kicked off yet? Or are we still nurphing?  #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:03:37 @joannacre Andrea is a smurf :P #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:03:48 @SueAnnan Hey Sue..not late just starting #ELTchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:04:01 So learner autonomy is all about trying to get students to learn in a self-directed fashion - as soon as possible?  #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:04:01 @bethcagnol I think it depends on what you mean by responsibilities. I think they're responsibile for their own learning #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:04:05 @bethcagnol small responsibilities - on a rotation basis - are what every good YL will do naturally - to make Ss more autonomous  #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:04:06 @racheldaw18 I see you're new to #ELT  What does tonight's topic mean to you? #ELTCHAT
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:04:17 @HadaLitim kicked off I think @bethcagnol got us going #eltchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:04:22 I wonder if delegating fits in 3 parts, 1) classroom mgmt tasks & 2) review/curate tasks & 3) HW #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:04:40 @bethcagnol I show my SS how to use online dictionaries and allow them to use them in class when they have unknown words #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2015-03-04T21:04:48 Do you negotiate with your students at the start of a programme? #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:04:56 @joannacre I don't think the smurfs are technologically advanced enough ^_^ #eltchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:04:56 You mean like monitor, reporter when working in groups? #eltchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:05:05 RT @angelos_bollas: @bethcagnol I show my SS how to use online dictionaries and allow them to use them in class when they have unknown word…
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:05:07 @Ashowski What about small tasks like making photocopies, fetching equipment, arranging the chairs in the room? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:05:09 @Charlesrei1 good division of purposes - but perhaps we also need to talk about stages of delegation - learner training  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:05:22 @SueAnnan Yes. They even sign a learner's contract (!) :-) #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:05:36 @angelos_bollas @bethcagnol I've started doing this as well and I think it's great for #LearnerTraining and building #autonomy #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:05:43 @bethcagnol I am new & recently read the chapter in Harmer book - suppose it's worth assessing learner motivation @start of course? #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:05:56 @SueAnnan Yes but with a set of core objectives in mind #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:06:02 I should mention that when I suggested tonight's #ELTCHAT topic, I was thinking of responsibilities that would lighten the load for the tchr
theteacherjames 2015-03-04T21:06:03 Hi everyone, sorry I’m late #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:06:08 @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan Learner contracts a really good idea - Ts also need to make promises in them too - often only Ss who do  #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:06:16 @bethcagnol don't care about those things so much #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:06:24 @bethcagnol @Ashowski Would that vary according to age groups? #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:06:30 @bethcagnol ideally I'd get my assistant to do them... #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:06:34 RT @Marisa_C: @Charlesrei1 good division of purposes - but perhaps we also need to talk about stages of delegation - learner training  #ELT…
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:06:34 My deaf students must look up words in their electronic dicts. all the time. Otherwise I might as well be giving text in L1 #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:06:51 Gosh, @angelos_bollas , what do you put in your learner contracts? That's a new one for me! Does the T sign it as well?  #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:06:52 @Ashowski Would you ask a student to fetch coffee for you?  ;-) #ELTCHAT
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:06:55 @bethcagnol One very simple way of doing this type of delegation is to assign a teacher assistant  #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:06:55 @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan I used to do that with YLs #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:07:00 @racheldaw18 Definitely agree. Assessing motivation can take time. #ELTCHAT
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:07:03 @naomishema I wish! That was the irony of it :P #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:07:07 @theteacherjames Aloha! #ELTchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:07:10 I'm not quite clear on stages of delegation... @Marisa_C examples? #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:07:18 @racheldaw18 Of course I do, too - I make my promises! :-) #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:07:33 @Marisa_C @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan The contract works even better when it's drawn with the Ss themselves #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:07:36 @Ashowski You have an assistant??!!  Holy ----! #ELTCHAT Lucky you!
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:07:50 RT @Marisa_C: @bethcagnol One very simple way of doing this type of delegation is to assign a teacher assistant  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:07:54 @Charlesrei1 I mean too much autonomy all at once may result in confusion - intermediate steps with support and guidance are needed #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:07:58 @bethcagnol I'd have to train them first in the art of making coffee - I'm very picky when it comes to my #coffee #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:08:10 @racheldaw18 @angelos_bollas Absolutely Rachel! That's what makes it work #ELTchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:08:13 I think I'd be right in assuming @Ashowski is fairly lucky/rare in having an assistant to take any class notes, do register etc?  #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:08:16 @Marisa_C I like the teacher assistant idea.  But what about having lots of assistants in one session? #ELTCHAT
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:08:22 Shall we say that when we talk about autonomy, we talk about learners from particular cultural backgrounds? #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:08:24 RT @Marisa_C: @Charlesrei1 I mean too much autonomy all at once may result in confusion - intermediate steps with support and guidance are …
ELTchat 2015-03-04T21:08:37 RT @HadaLitim: @Marisa_C @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan The contract works even better when it's drawn with the Ss themselves #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:08:46 An example - my first self-access centre was visited only by three trainees (used to trad trainer model) #ELTchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:08:49 Or even rotating assistants within the class (no matter the age) so that everyone gets a turn, has a role, feels important?  #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:09:02 @angelos_bollas why? #eltchat
theteacherjames 2015-03-04T21:09:07 @HadaLitim Hi! #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:09:08 @HadaLitim @Ashowski I definitely think it depends on age. I wouldn't ask a young learner to bring me coffee. ;-) #ELTCHAT
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:09:10 I sometimes give the weakest students an answer sheet & have them go around & help others work. #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:09:16 @bethcagnol too many cooks spoil the broth i find - one person - different one each time may be  #ELTchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:09:18 I'm skeptical of contracts @angelos_bollas, never tried them- successful? How to keep the discipline (also teacher) to follow them? #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:09:19 @bethcagnol @Marisa_C all the learners could be the assistants? #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:09:20 @Marisa_C @Charlesrei1 Totally and both age and context will play a big part in deciding how much autonomy #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:09:22 @Marisa_C @Charlesrei1 Also, the degree of T guidance needs to change in time #ELTchat
ESLlibrary 2015-03-04T21:09:29 Great #ELTchat topic! @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:09:37 @Marisa_C @bethcagnol could have a rota for it per class #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:09:51 Welcome @jamesgre1101 I am new too :) Also not sure on the stages of delegation but I'm sure someone will tell us soon!  #ELTchat
ITLegge 2015-03-04T21:10:02 Hello all! #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:10:03 @Charlesrei1 @angelos_bollas Eventually I had to give them lists of self-access tasks todo for a time -- then let them free #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:10:04 @Ashowski Because autonomy has a political/cultural dimension - for some societies, T are  the source of knowledge and light #ELTchat
joannacre 2015-03-04T21:10:07 @bethcagnol @Ashowski so what does the assistant do? #eltchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:10:23 In classes of young learners here roles are expected. There's the child who erases the board, the one who hands out pages, etc. #eltchat
theteacherjames 2015-03-04T21:10:25 As someone who teaches adults, I’m constantly trying to find ways to give responsibility over to my sts #ELTchat
joannacre 2015-03-04T21:10:27 RT @naomishema: I sometimes give the weakest students an answer sheet & have them go around & help others work. #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:10:28 @bethcagnol @Ashowski -> but the biscuits I might :0 #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:10:28 Do you think schools might have issues in general with learners helping the teacher with stuff? client approach to customers #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:10:30 @Marisa_C I've found the opposite, actually.  I assign tasks to as many students as there are tasks. Keeps them on their toes. #ELTCHAT
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:10:42 RT @bethcagnol: @Marisa_C I've found the opposite, actually.  I assign tasks to as many students as there are tasks. Keeps them on their to…
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:10:45 @Charlesrei1 They work really well, indeed - SS feel responsible and they do their best to follow. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:10:52 @Charlesrei1 @angelos_bollas contracts are good if they are created in collaboration with ss - can be a lang activity  #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:10:57 @angelos_bollas aaah! What's it like in Greece? #eltchat
ITLegge 2015-03-04T21:10:59 @angelos_bollas So you think we can build that into the first lesson by clarifying and setting expectations? #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:11:03 Can I ask a ? Is sts autonomy really achievable or is it a training buzzword? #eltchat
smrefaei 2015-03-04T21:11:05 Hello every one. Such an inspiration! #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:11:11 @angelos_bollas @Ashowski So how to you gauge and address that? #ELTchat
tarabenwell 2015-03-04T21:11:14 As admin for an online learning network, I've put learners in many roles: chat mod, blog mod, photo mod - Amazing results #ELTChat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:11:15 @naomishema exactly -- YLs are easier to organise this way  #ELTchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:11:30 I think I need a definition of autonomy... @angelos_bollas @HadaLitim @Marisa_C, but I see the point with 2 much 2 soon. #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:11:34 @ITLegge Absolutely - And you can do it while teaching language (e.g. Imperative or Modals) #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:11:48 @tarabenwell this sounds great. How old are the learners? #ELTchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:11:50 Engaging students in the technological side of things sounds like a good idea, @tarabenwell  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:11:56 @Ashowski Like the rest of the western world - but in Saudi, for instance, things are different #ELTchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:12:16 RT @tarabenwell: As admin for an online learning network, I've put learners in many roles: chat mod, blog mod, photo mod - Amazing results …
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:12:17 @ITLegge @angelos_bollas right from start - nice! At @IHBsAs we encourage #LearnerTraining from the start of course (Hi Helen) #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:12:25 I think a good starting point is to talk to adults abt your decisions vs THEIRs - and look for ways in which they could make more #ELTchat
rodoabrace 2015-03-04T21:12:28 RT @ESLlibrary: Great #ELTchat topic! @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:12:29 @Shaunwilden It's why I actually didn't say "autonomy" in my suggestion for the topic. I think we need to go deeper than that. #ELTCHAT
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:12:30 @Charlesrei1 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C I agree #ELTchat
ITLegge 2015-03-04T21:12:38 @angelos_bollas Agree completely!  #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:13:01 @HadaLitim @Ashowski By working with learners' expectations first - what do they perceive as learning, for instance? #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:13:14 @angelos_bollas @Ashowski In Saudi, it on the context rather than the age group #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:13:22 @tarabenwell Hey Tara - awesome- but ur network is by definition an act of autonomy by these learners - not same in class #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:13:25 @angelos_bollas @Ashowski it depends #ELTchat
KateLloyd05 2015-03-04T21:13:25 @Ashowski @ITLegge @angelos_bollas @IHBsAs in Vietnam we did the same, less so here, trying to introduce it but ss.Less responsive #ELTChat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:13:31 @Shaunwilden I like to give responsibility from the start. Even if it's small tasks like arranging chairs, opening the windows... #ELTCHAT
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:13:51 @Charlesrei1 @HadaLitim @Marisa_C Benson sais "One's ability to take charge of their own learning" #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:14:05 @bethcagnol Yes i agree, I like the use of delegation and responsibility #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:14:11 @bethcagnol @Shaunwilden Sure - but mods can edit questions so they appeal to a wider audience :-D it's what we do the he he  #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:14:15 @joannacre @bethcagnol not much but last one in Poland drove me around and did my supermarket shopping for me as well other stuff #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:14:18 @Ashowski @Marisa_C How about having a "task sheet" like we see in restaurants. People sign when they've completed the task? #ELTCHAT
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:14:23 RT @angelos_bollas: @Charlesrei1 @HadaLitim @Marisa_C Benson sais "One's ability to take charge of their own learning" #ELTchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:14:28 @bethcagnol and in doing so, your learners are hearing useful functional vocab, too - sounds like a good idea!  #ELTchat
tarabenwell 2015-03-04T21:14:31 @HadaLitim Teen to adult learners of all levels. They watch for plagiarism and spam. They have to add tags for filters. #ELTChat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:14:41 @KateLloyd05 @ITLegge @angelos_bollas @IHBsAs introducing it baby steps? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:14:42 @angelos_bollas oh really? and where did u heat that i wonder! :-D  #ELTchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:14:43 I guess basically... does autonomy mean, "Do your homework!" ?? #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:15:00 @racheldaw18 @bethcagnol What a brilliant idea! #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:15:12 @Shaunwilden Delegation is more useful for students who will need to go out into the work force after their training with us. #ELTCHAT
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:15:13 @Charlesrei1 No not at all but I think thats how it is often interpreted #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2015-03-04T21:15:18 @Ashowski @ITLegge @angelos_bollas @IHBsAs yes. Motivation for studying totally different so less appropriate - many just for fun #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:15:30 RT @bethcagnol: @Shaunwilden Delegation is more useful for students who will need to go out into the work force after their training with u…
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:15:32 What about the concept of learner journals - perhaps noting down HOW they like learning might help Ss be more interested in it?  #ELTchat
tarabenwell 2015-03-04T21:15:32 @Marisa_C Very true! But we have come so far. I used to have to do way more than I do now. They even make their own challenges now. #ELTChat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:15:34 @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Ah.  Duly noted. Sneaky.  ;-) #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:15:52 @Marisa_C Let me see.... hm... It is you who told me! :-D <3 #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:15:53 @Charlesrei1 not just homework but also ASKING for topics of interest, BRINGING interesting content - using a self access... #ELTchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:15:57 @angelos_bollas This makes sense... but then implies that they know what they don't know... possible? #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2015-03-04T21:15:59 @Charlesrei1 no. Not stuff set by teacher. Personal to learner #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:16:19 @Ashowski You are a delegating god! ;-) #ELTCHAT
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:16:33 How about when adult Ss come late? How do we clarify respons.2 make up? would u assign Ss 2 B in charge of helping latecomers? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:16:35 @racheldaw18 sm ppl like journals - i feel funny reading them tho allowed by Ss  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:16:44 @Charlesrei1 T trains them to know where to go in order to learn what they don't know. #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:16:49 It definitely needs to be staged and pitched at the learners' level  #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:17:00 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C Well Marisa, something stuck in ^_^ #eltchat
ITLegge 2015-03-04T21:17:09 @KateLloyd05 @Ashowski @angelos_bollas @IHBsAs Big responsibility on teacher to turn that into energy for learning, but possible! #eltchat
violetbluebird 2015-03-04T21:17:15 RT @bethcagnol: Does anyone here delegate responsibilities to students? If so, what are they? #ELTCHAT
austinspanish24 2015-03-04T21:17:32 RT @analomba: How Studying or Working Abroad Makes You Smarter https://t.co/33nwT0Q3kz #langchat #actfl #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:17:50 @Marisa_C I can understand that - although I s'pose you don't always have to read them; it could  be more encouragement for freedom #ELTchat
ITLegge 2015-03-04T21:17:52 RT @Marisa_C: @Charlesrei1 not just homework but also ASKING for topics of interest, BRINGING interesting content - using a self access... …
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:17:57 @naomishema I'd assign a student to fill in the late-comers. Perhaps assign another to collect homework (haven't tried that) #ELTCHAT
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:18:10 RT @bethcagnol: @naomishema I'd assign a student to fill in the late-comers. Perhaps assign another to collect homework (haven't tried that…
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:18:17 @naomishema Not sure it is related to autonomy. Yet, most of the times, I would ask sb to fill them in #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:18:28 @naomishema I joke with my students saying, "Who here can grade papers?"  I'm kidding of course. :-) #ELTCHAT
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:18:47 @racheldaw18 @Marisa_C They could keep a blog! :-) #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:18:54 @angelos_bollas  Oh well since u let the cat out of the bag ... #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:18:58 @naomishema We addressed recurrent lateness with a participation grade which Ss know abt. Not full proof but works some #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:19:05 I made this paddle for my trainees happy to share http://t.co/nT83nFKnh0 #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:19:18 rats it should have said paddle  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:19:21 padlet! #ELTchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:19:32 RT @HadaLitim: @naomishema We addressed recurrent lateness with a participation grade which Ss know abt. Not full proof but works some #elt…
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:19:32 @angelos_bollas well you know how much I am enjoying the blog writing and I suppose I too am a learner (pre-CELTA trainee!) :)  #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:19:33 RT @Charlesrei1: I wonder if delegating fits in 3 parts, 1) classroom mgmt tasks & 2) review/curate tasks & 3) HW #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:19:36 @janoreso marks one Ss homework and then gets them to correct other Ss, who then correct more Ss etc - autonomy building? #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:19:37 @angelos_bollas @racheldaw18 @Marisa_C A colleague of mine has his students manage the class blog.  Very very successful. #ELTCHAT
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:19:41 @bethcagnol @naomishema but isnt them grading papers actually a good way to do it? #eltchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:19:46 It sounds that we are in the direction of transformative learning/leadership... developing the desire to seek out the answer. #eltchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:19:47 RT @bethcagnol: @angelos_bollas @racheldaw18 @Marisa_C A colleague of mine has his students manage the class blog.  Very very successful. #…
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:19:53 @bethcagnol peer marking is one of the ways of encouraging autonomy great  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:19:58 @racheldaw18 I think you are doing great! :-) #ELTchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:20:05 @bethcagnol @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C what kind of things does your colleague get students to blog about, out of interest? :)  #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:20:07 @Shaunwilden @naomishema Well, peer grading can work sometimes. I'm not a huge fan, but that's another discussion. #ELTCHAT
SueAnnan 2015-03-04T21:20:09 got really dodgy internet tonight. sorry if I disappear  #ELTChat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:20:18 @bethcagnol @racheldaw18 @Marisa_C Sounds very nice! #ELTchat
fielsted 2015-03-04T21:20:27 @bethcagnol @naomishema Why not though? If they have criteria to mark against it would definitely be developing autonomy right? #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:20:36 @bethcagnol thats next week sorted then :-) #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:20:42 @angelos_bollas thanks very much - this is fantastically interesting :) I'll shut up about myself, though #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:20:47 @racheldaw18 @angelos_bollas diaries and blogs are very successful with learners in my experience #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2015-03-04T21:20:48 @Charlesrei1 2 aspects, willingness&capacity. Capacity includes knowledge of metalanguage,ability to set goals....#eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:20:51 @Charlesrei1 Is this with learners who've been exposed to this tye of learning early on? It's a long process to get there #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:21:08 @racheldaw18 1 std posts vocabulary from the lesson. Another posts notes. Another posts links 2 sites that relate to the topic. #ELTCHAT
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:21:08 @racheldaw18 some of them give feedback on what we did in class, others post their h/w @bethcagnol @Marisa_C  #ELTchat
tarabenwell 2015-03-04T21:21:17 RT @bethcagnol: @angelos_bollas @racheldaw18 @Marisa_C A colleague of mine has his students manage the class blog.  Very very successful. #…
fielsted 2015-03-04T21:21:45 @bethcagnol @naomishema As a student I recall the mystery of grades=all in the hands of the teacher so showing how we mark=good? #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:22:01 @naomishema Like getting 1 S to explain to Latecomer what they have missed/need to be doing? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:22:12 @fielsted yes! definitely! Share your marking criteria too!  #ELTchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:22:16 That sounds like a good idea @bethcagnol - related idea could be nominating students to collate vocab on @Quizlet for all to use? #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:22:20 @Marisa_C I still need practice in peer-grading.  I've learned a lot thanks to taking MOOCs on @coursera though. #ELTCHAT
ITLegge 2015-03-04T21:22:26 @Shaunwilden @bethcagnol @naomishema I just did a lesson with rubrics for peer assessment. Ensures a fair standard #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:22:39 @fielsted @bethcagnol @naomishema it's openness isn't it :) #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:22:51 @racheldaw18 @bethcagnol  @Marisa_C I used to have my students blog about some charity projects I'd get them involved in #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:22:54 @Marisa_C @fielsted Lately, I have been asking my SS to set the marking criteria - they are very strict #ELTchat
fielsted 2015-03-04T21:22:55 I've tasked sts to prepare test papers for one another in groups-works nicely #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:23:03 @Marisa_C @fielsted the more they know it the better they can gear themselves to perform = raise aspirations and motivation #eltchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:23:06 @ITLegge I like this. #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:23:10 RT @fielsted: I've tasked sts to prepare test papers for one another in groups-works nicely #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:23:12 Ooh I didn't know @coursera did MOOCs on related things, @bethcagnol - I have recently been doing a @futurelearn one about English! #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:23:12 @bethcagnol peer grading not only thing - peer feedback to class activities also can be done with proper rubrics  #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:23:15 @racheldaw18 Absolutely! Why not have another student manage the techny side of the blog too? #ELTCHAT Hands-free teaching!
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:23:21 RT @fielsted: I've tasked sts to prepare test papers for one another in groups-works nicely #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:23:32 RT @bethcagnol: @racheldaw18 Absolutely! Why not have another student manage the techny side of the blog too? #ELTCHAT Hands-free teaching!
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:23:35 @fielsted haven't done that - will try it though! #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:23:38 @fielsted Do they take the tests themselves? #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:23:44 @HadaLitim involving students in a charity project is a lovely idea - not just learner independence, but giving sth back too :)  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:23:49 @bethcagnol lol i loved that hands free aphorism  #ELTchat
fielsted 2015-03-04T21:23:50 @Ashowski @Marisa_C Yep. Knowledge is power...#eltchat
NewbieCELTA 2015-03-04T21:23:55 @Marisa_C @Charlesrei1 #eltchat that reminds me of this book, haven't fully read since found but VERY interesting! http://t.co/LA5dFbfrt0
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:24:07 @fielsted @bethcagnol showing how we mark - extremely important! #eltchat  Mandatory!
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:24:10 @racheldaw18 Life skills and empathy building #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:24:10 @Marisa_C That's a very good point (rubrics). I think that's what I'm lacking in properly executing peer-grading in my classroom. #ELTCHAT
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:24:17 @NewbieCELTA @Charlesrei1 oldie but goodie  #ELTchat
KateLloyd05 2015-03-04T21:24:21 RT @bethcagnol: @racheldaw18 1 std posts vocabulary from the lesson. Another posts notes. Another posts links 2 sites that relate to the to…
fielsted 2015-03-04T21:24:32 @HadaLitim Yeah.They swap them over. #eltchat
ITLegge 2015-03-04T21:24:32 @angelos_bollas @racheldaw18 @bethcagnol @Marisa_C Oh! All about the student blog at the minute! My teens are loving it on @padlet #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:24:33 @naomishema @fielsted @bethcagnol  Totally agree #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:24:51 @Marisa_C @NewbieCELTA @Charlesrei1 oo thats a good book , is it still in print? #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:24:56 @NewbieCELTA @Marisa_C @Charlesrei1 Can always rely on Matt to come up with a good book :) Thank you! #appreciation  #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:25:02 Hands-free teaching Cagnol (2015) #ELTCHAT  #citationsnob
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:25:13 RT @NewbieCELTA: @Marisa_C @Charlesrei1 #eltchat that reminds me of this book, haven't fully read since found but VERY interesting! http://…
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:25:23 @NewbieCELTA thanks for yet another excellent book recommendation, it's on the list :)  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2015-03-04T21:25:27 @Marisa_C  I've got real bad nternet. Might not manage much tonight #eltchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:25:29 @HadaLitim I'm not sure if there is really a system, just the mindset to notice language, the desire to improve and skill to answer #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:25:35 @skrashen talks about compelling reading/listening as a great booster to lang acquisition - how else choose but autonomously? #ELTchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:25:42 It's a conference seminar title in the making, @bethcagnol :) I can picture the slides now! #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:26:08 @racheldaw18 Ha! I would delegate the talk to the attendees. ;) #ELTCHAT
ITLegge 2015-03-04T21:26:28 @Charlesrei1 I teach exam prep, so easy for me to convert exam standards to  tables for evaluation. GEng could use 'Can dos'? #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:26:28 @ITLegge @angelos_bollas @racheldaw18 @Marisa_C @padlet Have them manage their own privare Facebook group. A colleague does that #ELTCHAT
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:26:33 @Marisa_C @skrashen so Ss choose what they want to read and listen to, right? #eltchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:26:33 @NewbieCELTA looks interesting #eltchat
fielsted 2015-03-04T21:26:40 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C I know what you mean. Can be quite insightful-is that the degree of perfection those sts expect?! #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:26:52 @bethcagnol @racheldaw18 we re moving in the direction of the d word that will set @Shaunwilden on fire! :-D  #ELTchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:26:59 How do your adult ss react 2 peer grading? Every course some complained they didn't pay so much money 4 me not to see everything! #eltchat
tarabenwell 2015-03-04T21:27:02 RT @racheldaw18: That sounds like a good idea @bethcagnol - related idea could be nominating students to collate vocab on @Quizlet for all …
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:27:24 @Ashowski @skrashen yes! compelling means their choice  #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:27:24 @Charlesrei1 I get adult Ss who's learning experience failed to teach anyth remotely linked to autonomy so the process is a long 1 #eltchat
NewbieCELTA 2015-03-04T21:27:30 @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @Charlesrei1 probnot! found in fire clearout stacks @ adultEd library -auth recently webinaring I recall? #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:27:35 @racheldaw18 Was inspired by a talk given by @NathanSArthur at @TESOLFrance 2013 on this subject. #ELTCHAT He should take the credit.
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:27:38 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C @fielsted they must be ready to challenge each other :) #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:27:49 @fielsted @Marisa_C And some times is more realistic than my expectations #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:28:06 @Marisa_C @skrashen oh! new meaning of that word for me :) #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:28:31 @Marisa_C @racheldaw18 @Shaunwilden D word? #ELTCHAT
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:28:37 @Marisa_C @bethcagnol @Shaunwilden I'm afraid I have no idea what the D word is but I'm sorry if I accidentally drop the D-bomb ;) #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:28:37 RT @Marisa_C: @skrashen talks about compelling reading/listening as a great booster to lang acquisition - how else choose but autonomously?…
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:28:38 @HadaLitim the people paying me to teach them :) #eltchat
NewbieCELTA 2015-03-04T21:28:43 @Ashowski @Marisa_C @Charlesrei1 just call me 'bookish' and get it over with ;) seriously tho, thanks for compliment Ash! :D #eltchat
fielsted 2015-03-04T21:28:46 @racheldaw18 @HadaLitim Yes! In UK I've worked with Kid's charity Barnardo's.Sts tasked to design, publicise & deliver event FAB #eltchat
olyaelt 2015-03-04T21:29:15 Hi everyone! Sorry for joining late. #eltchat
ITLegge 2015-03-04T21:29:16 @HadaLitim @Charlesrei1 #eltchat I also sometimes end up with sts with fossilised learning methods - SO difficult to change that mindset.
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:29:20 Here is a report and video of the @skrashen talk here http://t.co/QvB7cR6eMF  #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:29:24 @NewbieCELTA @Marisa_C @Charlesrei1 on my blog everyone addresses me as "Ash" - didn't know why til now: brevity :) #eltchat
NewbieCELTA 2015-03-04T21:29:27 @SueAnnan @Marisa_C boy you don't hear that very often these days do you? ;) #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:29:27 @Charlesrei1 Sorry I was just correcting a type ;) #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:29:45 @racheldaw18 @Marisa_C @bethcagnol erm there’s no need to do down the d-path #eltchat
olyaelt 2015-03-04T21:29:49 The topic reminds me of this talk: https://t.co/JDMOFeubVU Scrum approach to planning and delegating tasks. #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:29:58 @racheldaw18 @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden LOL! Delegate? Dehydration? Dubious? Dumbledore? #ELTCHAT
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:30:05 @ITLegge @HadaLitim @Charlesrei1 grammar translation for example? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:30:12 @Shaunwilden   @bethcagnol no no not going that way at all  #ELTchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:30:12 @naomishema It's funny; as a learner of MFL, I used to despise peer-marking so I think I'll find it hard to ask Ss to do as a T! #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2015-03-04T21:30:33 @NewbieCELTA @Marisa_C We're in the process of swapping over to fibre optics. Will be fab then #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:30:37 @bethcagnol  second letter is O - last is E  #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:30:43 @Ashowski @ITLegge @Charlesrei1 It's worse than GT! #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:31:03 @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden  Great. Now I won't get any sleep tonight. I'll be trying to figure out what the D word is. #ELTCHAT
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:31:10 @Marisa_C @bethcagnol Haha! Does @Shaunwilden hate it? #ELTchat
olyaelt 2015-03-04T21:31:14 Re the video, the idea is to negotiate tasks - and then get people to tick them off, which is supposed to work magic. =) #eltchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:31:14 I'm 50% successful with my learner autonomy goals... learning from work, sourcing materials and ?s - good, studying - bad #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:31:18 @SueAnnan have swapped at home and zooming up and down the web just lovely - now got to do the school #ELTchat
NewbieCELTA 2015-03-04T21:31:19 I got some limited Ting exp with 'SLIFE' learners in US ESOL a few yrs back. Mostly learner training, yeah. Such a good exp 4 me 2! #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:31:42 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C @bethcagnol Not at all, there is a twitter myth that I do just cos I argue #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2015-03-04T21:31:43 @ITLegge @HadaLitim @Charlesrei1 yes me too. Too much sit and listen to teacher who holds all the cards #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:31:50 @SueAnnan @NewbieCELTA @Marisa_C Until that goes too! We have fibre optic and not sure what the big deal's abt #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:31:51 @racheldaw18 @naomishema stick with that - go with what you didn't like. often learners don't like it too in my experience #eltchat
SueAnnan 2015-03-04T21:31:55 @Marisa_C Can't wait #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:31:59 @SueAnnan Oh!!  HAHAHA!  #ELTCHAT   Had no idea that would..Ahem...ok.  let's move on.
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:32:09 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan I changed mine recently, but i ended up with a really bad one - must change it again! Gkrrr #ELTchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:32:15 RT @racheldaw18: @naomishema It's funny; as a learner of MFL, I used to despise peer-marking so I think I'll find it hard to ask Ss to do a…
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:32:17 @NewbieCELTA SLIFE? #eltchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:32:35 @HadaLitim I have a technique which seems to help... refuse to give the answer. Make them figure it out. Cold shower of autonomy? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:32:37 second life? #ELTchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:32:42 @Ashowski @racheldaw18 Teens are especially sensitive to having peers see their work! #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:33:06 @KateLloyd05 @ITLegge @Charlesrei1 It's sometimes beyond spoon-feeding expectations..we're talking IV drip feed! #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:33:08 @Charlesrei1 autonomy is not being the source of the answer always tho  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:33:12 @Shaunwilden You do? I thought you would never argue over anything. ^_^ @Marisa_C @bethcagnol  #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:33:19 RT @Charlesrei1: @HadaLitim I have a technique which seems to help... refuse to give the answer. Make them figure it out. Cold shower of au…
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:33:29 @Charlesrei1 @HadaLitim but you're the font of knowledge in the classroom - that's what they pay for? #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:33:40 Does anyone use project management principles in their classrooms? #ELTCHAT CC @NathanSArthur
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:33:52 @Charlesrei1 Sounds like what I've had to resort to and only to see some great results! #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:33:53 @naomishema @Ashowski @racheldaw18 I think it all depends on whether you have trained them to do so or not #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:33:57 @bethcagnol @NathanSArthur How do you mean? #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2015-03-04T21:34:00 @HadaLitim @ITLegge @Charlesrei1 so long as they have to do absolutely nothing #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:34:09 @bethcagnol can you list them pls so we can tell u if we do? #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:34:10 @naomishema @racheldaw18 I think a lot of adults are too #eltchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:34:23 RT @Marisa_C: @bethcagnol can you list them pls so we can tell u if we do? #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:34:24 @Shaunwilden Honey, argue away! ;-) #ELTCHAT
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:34:29 @Ashowski @Charlesrei1 Of course! #eltchat
fielsted 2015-03-04T21:34:31 Another way to foster autonomy:tutorials. Sts tasked to come with clear questions abt their work not allowed to be passive #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:34:38 @naomishema @Ashowski Ok that's good advice for me: to follow my gut in terms of repeating things my own teachers tried, thanks :) #ELTchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:34:49 RT @racheldaw18: @naomishema @Ashowski Ok that's good advice for me: to follow my gut in terms of repeating things my own teachers tried, t…
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:34:54 @Marisa_C true, agree... but when occassionally when the scaffolding is a bit too strong. #eltchat
NewbieCELTA 2015-03-04T21:35:01 @Ashowski oops 'SIFE' (http://t.co/8iWpfcVuax) but added L for "little or..." I THINK is a thing (maybe it's just my thing!? ;P) #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:35:02 @Shaunwilden @NathanSArthur did a talk on this at @TESOLFrance and will for @iatefl_besig in Budapest. Very interesting stuff. #ELTCHAT
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:35:10 @racheldaw18 @naomishema maybe not so much what your teachers did but what you did and didn't like as a learner #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:35:21 @fielsted good idea - and if they are also invited to self - assess and set own goals that works towards this end too  #ELTchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:35:22 @ITLegge @Ashowski @racheldaw18 so much extra work to remove names, assign numbers, tho! #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:35:33 @bethcagnol @NathanSArthur Forget the D-word, you just dropped the PM-acronym..nooo! I currently work in that world in publishing! #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:35:40 @ITLegge @naomishema @racheldaw18 I get mine to put a nickname on their writing before they put it on the wall #eltchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:35:47 @Ashowski they pay to be able to do it right :) ? #eltchat
fielsted 2015-03-04T21:35:54 Not sitting back & receiving 'wisdom' from Teacher. Much more about dialogue and st pulling things in a direction of their choosing #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:35:54 @fielsted Yes, tutorials are great - you can do group tutorials and/or one2one #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:36:19 I let Ss know that absentees must find out what was taken through the Whatsapp class group (IWB screen shots, hoemwork, HOs) #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:36:23 @fielsted Are students ok with having a fraction of a normal lesson's time with you as a T all to themselves then?  #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:36:25 @bethcagnol @NathanSArthur @TESOLFrance @iatefl_besig Yes sounds very interesting will do some googling #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:36:34 @Shaunwilden Project management = delegating course tasks according to the sts strengths. #ELTCHAT
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:37:05 @HadaLitim who posts to your whatsapp group? could ss do that? #eltchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:37:07 @naomishema thx for the tip... I'll have to remember this one #eltchat
theteacherjames 2015-03-04T21:37:09 @Ashowski @ITLegge @naomishema @racheldaw18 I think it's wrong to call it 'making', it's feedback. Like asking a friend for advice. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:37:17 A website like a wiki with diff exercises where they choose what to do as a result of teacher feedback or a tutorial?  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:37:28 @HadaLitim Never used a whatsapp group! Could you say more? #ELTchat
ITLegge 2015-03-04T21:37:36 RT @theteacherjames: @Ashowski @ITLegge @naomishema @racheldaw18 I think it's wrong to call it 'making', it's feedback. Like asking a frien…
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:37:43 @bethcagnol So I guess I do then when I am doing learning projects  #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:38:00 @naomishema Every class has its own group and I'm included so anyone can post. Front Ss usually take shots. Save writing time! #eltchat
NewbieCELTA 2015-03-04T21:38:04 even lil' things like hav Ss ask another S 'what'd you get for #6?' instead of u in task feedback contributes to shift in gravity? #eltchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:38:08 @bethcagnol like backwards planning toward autonomy?... like @Marisa_C mentioned with phases... hmm.. #eltchat
theteacherjames 2015-03-04T21:38:13 @Ashowski @ITLegge @naomishema @racheldaw18 definitely wrong to call it 'making'! #marking #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:38:17 @racheldaw18 @fielsted Scrivener likes that. Learners get fractions of my time throughout the lesson. several times #eltchat
smrefaei 2015-03-04T21:38:18 RT @Marisa_C: A website like a wiki with diff exercises where they choose what to do as a result of teacher feedback or a tutorial?  #ELTch…
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:38:24 @angelos_bollas @HadaLiti it's an App where you can instant message text images videos  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:38:31 @Marisa_C Like a Self-Access Centre? With many tasks to choose from? (lots of work from T, tho) #ELTchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:38:38 @HadaLitim @naomishema Gosh that's forward thinking! Although WhatsApp group messages soon get overwhelming - not annoying for you? #ELTchat
NewbieCELTA 2015-03-04T21:38:44 @theteacherjames @Ashowski @ITLegge @naomishema @racheldaw18 to call what 'making'? (lost the thread there) thx! :) #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:38:55 @angelos_bollas I ask a S to volunteer & start the group. It's used in and out of class. #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:39:01 @Marisa_C @HadaLiti Didn't know I could have group msgs there, tho! Will try asap! ;) #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:39:02 @NewbieCELTA @theteacherjames @ITLegge @naomishema @racheldaw18 think he meant "marking" #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:39:03 @Shaunwilden How so? #ELTCHAT
jamesgre1101 2015-03-04T21:39:04 @naomishema @ITLegge @Ashowski @racheldaw18 my language teachers would assign us numbers at the beginning of the year.#eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:39:14 @Charlesrei1 well yes - there is a long continuum between total control and complete abdication of responsibility by the T  #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:39:15 @racheldaw18 @naomishema There's a mute feature! #eltchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:39:15 Ss here practically "live" on whatsapp (instagram comes in second IMHO) #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:39:27 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C some schools have Personal Study Programmes such as @ihnewcastle and very successful #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:39:52 @jamesgre1101 @naomishema @ITLegge @racheldaw18 variety might be necessary so people don't 'figure out' your number #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:40:03 @racheldaw18 What age group do you (will you) teach? #ELTCHAT
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:40:04 @bethcagnol haha you’ll have to come my IATEFL talk ;-) #eltchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:40:09 @Ashowski Isn't that @sandymillin 's program? #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:40:10 @Ashowski @NewbieCELTA @theteacherjames @ITLegge @naomishema I also got confused by making/marking but take your point James thx :) #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:40:23 @naomishema Why not join them on whatsapp? #ELTCHAT
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:40:28 @Ashowski @angelos_bollas @ihnewcastle i think if u have a website with stuff, a quick tutorial can steer Ss to what they need  #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:40:41 @naomishema @sandymillin No, I think Darran Shaw came up with it. #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:40:43 @bethcagnol So for e.g. making use of director skills, art skills rather than emphsasing language skills #eltchat
fielsted 2015-03-04T21:40:45 @racheldaw18 In my context (UK uni) yes-regularly factored in but group tutorials can be great too #eltchat
theteacherjames 2015-03-04T21:41:07 @NewbieCELTA @Ashowski @ITLegge @naomishema @racheldaw18 Sorry about that! ☺ #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:41:20 @Marisa_C @Ashowski @ihnewcastle Or maybe, ask each S to prepare a quick tutorial for one of the available options/tools each time? #ELTchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:41:29 @bethcagnol Going there already. abandoning edmodo to use whatsapp. Long frustrating story...#eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:41:39 RT @Marisa_C: @Charlesrei1 well yes - there is a long continuum between total control and complete abdication of responsibility by the T  #…
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:41:42 @Ashowski @jamesgre1101 @naomishema @ITLegge What is the number you're talking about Ss finding out, sorry? Missed that!  #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:41:51 @Shaunwilden yeah I would say that. Recognizing who would be a good leader, designer, organizer, etc. #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:41:52 @racheldaw18 @sandymillin First time I'm hearing it's by @sandymillin - always thought Darran Shaw came up with it #eltchat
fielsted 2015-03-04T21:41:57 @Ashowski @racheldaw18 Well if Scrivener likes it, who are we mere mortals to argue...:) #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:42:13 @fielsted @racheldaw18 we can argue ^_^ #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:42:16 @fielsted @Ashowski @racheldaw18 lol  #ELTchat
NathanSArthur 2015-03-04T21:42:35 #eltchat I feel students enjoy being delegated to. Even setting up and coffee. Need boss on your side though. @bethcagnol
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:42:49 @ITLegge @jamesgre1101 @naomishema @racheldaw18 opportunity to make them acquainted with punctuation marks ^_^ #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:42:57 @NathanSArthur Welcome to #ELTCHAT !
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:43:22 Coming back again, sorry... is all the Ss 'autonomy effort' outside of class? Anything during class?  Hmm... I'm reflecting. #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:43:47 @NathanSArthur @bethcagnol yes welcome! we heard u did this talk - talk to us abt it  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:43:52 @Charlesrei1 Training them to be autonomous is what happens in the class, first #ELTchat
NathanSArthur 2015-03-04T21:43:53 I take Spanish class each week and would like to be involved more by the teacher @bethcagnol #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:43:59 @naomishema Interesting! I've also abandoned Edmodo. They didn't log on enough. Shame.  #ELTCHAT
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:44:10 Is there a school policy where you work. How can we maintain consistency ensure the progress isn't lost from one level to the next #eltchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:44:12 RT @bethcagnol: @naomishema Interesting! I've also abandoned Edmodo. They didn't log on enough. Shame.  #ELTCHAT
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:44:18 @Charlesrei1 i think u can have times when ss can choose what active to do  #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:44:38 @bethcagnol @naomishema Did you replace it with something else? #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:44:38 @ITLegge @naomishema Don't get me wrong. I love Edmodo. But my students just didn't use it. Even with the phone apps. #ELTCHAT
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:44:49 @Charlesrei1 They can also select materials from time to time #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:45:03 @Charlesrei1 two options for an assignment - choose the one u prefer  - three exercises - choose the one that challenges u #ELTchat
ITLegge 2015-03-04T21:45:08 @Charlesrei1 #eltchat I suppose it's also autonomy in making choices in the classroom. e.g Deciding who to refer to for info, not just to T
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:45:16 @naomishema @racheldaw18 so has Sandy got a post on Personal Study Programme or something? #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:45:22 RT @Marisa_C two options for an assignment - choose the one u prefer  - three exercises - choose the one that challenges u #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:45:23 small patches of students making own decisions bat their learning  #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:45:24 @naomishema @bethcagnol Way to go!! Whatsapp is so much easier and already used by our Ss #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:45:35 @Shaunwilden @naomishema Hate to say it:  I replaced it with....gasp....email! #ELTCHAT
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:45:38 @bethcagnol @naomishema that's a pity to hear #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:45:48 @Ashowski @naomishema @racheldaw18 Its Sandym, surely she has a post on everything! #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:45:56 @HadaLitim @naomishema @bethcagnol Is it better than a FB group? #ELTchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:46:09 @Ashowski sorry I think I got confused - ignore me :) I have been reading a lot of her posts on PD that's all!  #ELTchat
ITLegge 2015-03-04T21:46:10 @Charlesrei1 #eltchat there's a YL thing 'ask 3 before me' (a friend, your book, a dictionary for ex)
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:46:13 @Shaunwilden @naomishema @racheldaw18 hope the same will be said about me soon enough ^_^ #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:46:16 @Ashowski @bethcagnol @naomishema Edmodo never really took off where I work either despite the numerous pushes for it #eltchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:46:18 #eltchat is making me think, what does the perfect 'autonomous learner' look like? I guess they aren't in my class at all, right?
guzinpolat 2015-03-04T21:46:25 RT @ELTchat: HOW DO YOU SUPPORT TEACHING AND LEARNING INNOVATION WHERE YOU WORK? #ELTchat Summary http://t.co/V47tvdrn56
ELTchat 2015-03-04T21:46:30 RT @Charlesrei1: #eltchat is making me think, what does the perfect 'autonomous learner' look like? I guess they aren't in my class at all,…
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:46:51 @Charlesrei1  Do they exist at all :-) #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:46:51 @HadaLitim @naomishema I've started to incorporate texting to my students during class. It's fun and a great twist to activities. #ELTCHAT
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:46:58 I do think WhatsApp is pretty ubiquitous these days - I use it to make me feel like I speak German & Spanish every day :)  #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:47:05 @angelos_bollas @naomishema @bethcagnol To me yes - more accessible and easy to delete (I teach 6 week terms) #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:47:07 @Charlesrei1 What you got? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:47:10 @Ashowski depends how you read @Shaunwilden  's comment :-D  #ELTchat
NathanSArthur 2015-03-04T21:47:10 @Marisa_C @bethcagnol #eltchat hello everyone, I come from a business background and was not comfortable with teacher student hierarchy
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:47:13 @Charlesrei1 I think it is when in class SS reflect on progress and set up further action plans #ELTchat
KateLloyd05 2015-03-04T21:47:20 @Charlesrei1 depends on their motivations. Autonomous in one thing doesn't mean autonomous in everything #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:47:27 @Charlesrei1 the perfect autonomous learner might have to be an insomniac based on this conversation! :)  #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:47:32 @angelos_bollas @HadaLitim @naomishema I've had mixed reviews from sts and colleagues about using FB. It works sometimes. #ELTCHAT
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:47:34 @HadaLitim @naomishema @bethcagnol Good to know! Thank you :-) #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:47:37 @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden oh! is there another subtle undertone? ^_^ #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:47:37 @angelos_bollas @naomishema @bethcagnol I think I wrote sometyhing on using Whatsapp once. I'll try and rmmber to dig it out or u #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:47:41 RT @KateLloyd05: @Charlesrei1 depends on their motivations. Autonomous in one thing doesn't mean autonomous in everything #eltchat
fielsted 2015-03-04T21:47:52 @Charlesrei1 Not all out of class but I feel the intention is that sts shd be able to self-direct when no T is around #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:47:54 @bethcagnol @HadaLitim @naomishema Gosh, all this chat of tech in the classroom makes me feel a bit old - sounds fab though! :)  #ELTchat
NewbieCELTA 2015-03-04T21:48:03 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C love that!!!!!!!!!!!! #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:48:30 @racheldaw18 @bethcagnol @HadaLitim @naomishema One step at a time! :-) #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:48:34 @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C I guess there isn't then ^_^ #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:48:43 @racheldaw18 Well, one way I delegate tasks to sts is I tell them to set up and use the equipment. Again, hands-free teaching. #ELTCHAT
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:48:43 @Ashowski @Shaunwilden @naomishema well didn't I just read before this chat that you have already posted 50 times? Getting close :) #ELTchat
NewbieCELTA 2015-03-04T21:48:50 @Shaunwilden @Ashowski @naomishema @racheldaw18 pretty much! To the benefit of all :) #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:48:58 @NathanSArthur @bethcagnol so what would be your suggestion - or do you have some slides to share or a blog post perhaps  #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:48:59 @racheldaw18 @bethcagnol @naomishema You OLD! Lol Looks like technology is redefining chronology #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:49:10 @HadaLitim Would love to read it! #ELTCHAT
NathanSArthur 2015-03-04T21:49:23 @Marisa_C @bethcagnol #eltchat I automatically sat with the students when working not standing in front of them.
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:49:24 @NathanSArthur @Marisa_C @bethcagnol That's true; I suppose the hierarchy is much flatter with adult learners, esp. businessppl #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:49:26 @racheldaw18 @Shaunwilden @naomishema I got some catching up to do tho :P #eltchat but thank you
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:49:42 RT @angelos_bollas: RT @Marisa_C two options for an assignment - choose the one u prefer  - three exercises - choose the one that challenge…
theteacherjames 2015-03-04T21:49:55 @HadaLitim @angelos_bollas @naomishema @bethcagnol I find what'sapp the best way to communicate with my sts. everyone uses it! #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:50:16 @bethcagnol I'll dig it out and try to turn it into a blog post then. Look out for it #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:50:17 @KateLloyd05 @naomishema @racheldaw18 @LizziePinard Can't be Lizzie - didn't work at IH Newcastle :P #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:50:35 @theteacherjames @HadaLitim @naomishema @bethcagnol I have just started using Snapchat... Seems I have to add another one, too! :-) #ELTchat
heyboyle 2015-03-04T21:50:43 @Shaunwilden I often wonder if we make sts autonomous or if they are already that way (or not) when they come to the course #eltchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:50:52 RT @theteacherjames: @HadaLitim @angelos_bollas @naomishema @bethcagnol I find what'sapp the best way to communicate with my sts. everyone …
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:50:54 @HadaLitim @bethcagnol that'[s good @carlaarena uses it with her ss a lot - will check her blog  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:51:05 RT @HadaLitim @bethcagnol I'll dig it out and try to turn it into a blog post then. Look out for it > Please, do! #ELTchat
fielsted 2015-03-04T21:51:18 @Charlesrei1 & that point I just made makes it all a bit odd I guess-the T in class encouraging sts to work w/o the T in class :/#eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:51:19 @theteacherjames @angelos_bollas @naomishema @bethcagnol Exactly and that's the whole point abt using tech for me - just a tool 1/2 #eltchat
muranava 2015-03-04T21:51:21 @bethcagnol @HadaLitim @naomishema hi, what kind of txting things? #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:51:38 @angelos_bollas @theteacherjames @HadaLitim @naomishema @bethcagnol use of SnapChat in the classroom, impressive stuff! :)  #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:51:39 @heyboyle @Shaunwilden I think they could be more autonomous originally and then lots of teachers limit them :-/ #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:51:41 @heyboyle @Shaunwilden in some cultures they may well come pretty autonomous - but my experience not good  #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:51:45 @theteacherjames @angelos_bollas @naomishema @bethcagnol And not something I have to spend time teaching before I can teach 2/2 #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:51:49 @Marisa_C @HadaLitim @carlaarena That's awesome.  Can't wait to try it. #ELTCHAT
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:51:53 @angelos_bollas @theteacherjames @HadaLitim @naomishema @bethcagnol you've just started using it?! #eltchat
heyboyle 2015-03-04T21:52:10 If so the Q may be how to support autonomous learners rather than how to help students learn in that style #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:52:18 @Shaunwilden maybe it's not something you achieve but just do or an approach? don't know #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:52:18 @Ashowski @heyboyle @Shaunwilden I suppose some culture may have slightly more autonomous learners than others #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:52:28 @Ashowski @theteacherjames @HadaLitim @naomishema @bethcagnol yes #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:52:32 @angelos_bollas  you use snapchat with sts? #eltchat
heyboyle 2015-03-04T21:52:39 @Ashowski very true #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2015-03-04T21:52:41 @Ashowski @naomishema @racheldaw18 @LizziePinard not this then? #eltchat http://t.co/xQhYdjBxQi
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:52:46 @racheldaw18 @heyboyle @Shaunwilden I think @angelos_bollas would def agree with that #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:52:52 @muranava @HadaLitim @naomishema I can just imagine the things I'll text to my sts to get them to do stuff during class. #ELTCHAT
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:53:11 RT @angelos_bollas: RT @Marisa_C two options for an assignment - choose the one u prefer  - three exercises - choose the one that challenge…
theteacherjames 2015-03-04T21:53:25 @Marisa_C @HadaLitim @bethcagnol @carlaarena This one? http://t.co/poVAo3Qguz #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:53:25 @NewbieCELTA @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C me tooo! #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:53:30 @angelos_bollas @theteacherjames @HadaLitim @naomishema @bethcagnol havent' you been snapchating for months? #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:53:40 @NathanSArthur @Marisa_C Nathan, your slides from the BEUK conference are online here: http://t.co/3yqDcPEgs4 #ELTCHAT Hope you know that.
fielsted 2015-03-04T21:53:50 @Charlesrei1 Looks different in different learners #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2015-03-04T21:53:59 @racheldaw18 @Ashowski @heyboyle @Shaunwilden completely. Not that they can't do it, just not used to due to education system #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:54:03 @bethcagnol @muranava @naomishema Flipping the class in an instant it's great! #eltchat
textivate 2015-03-04T21:54:09 Textivate. vb: Turn text into online language activities, hwk, tests, IWB material (&worksheets)  http://t.co/oRBWAyfVDg#eltchat #langchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:54:10 @Shaunwilden Sometimes - they do photo scavenger hunts, they take selfies depicting vocabulary items, etc. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:54:16 RT @bethcagnol: @NathanSArthur @Marisa_C Nathan, your slides from the BEUK conference are online here: http://t.co/3yqDcPEgs4 #ELTCHAT Hope…
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:54:17 @KateLloyd05 @Ashowski @naomishema @LizziePinard Maybe read a post by @sandymillin which referenced Lizzie's tree & got v confused! #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:54:18 @Ashowski @theteacherjames @HadaLitim @naomishema @bethcagnol Not in class, tho #ELTchat
textivate 2015-03-04T21:54:23 Textivate = Text + vocab; input + output; reading + writing. LOTS of repetition !          http://t.co/oRBWAyfVDg#eltchat #langchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:54:24 @Ashowski Haven't been snapchatting, no. Need to. #ELTCHAT
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:54:27 @bethcagnol @NathanSArthur bless ya #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:54:57 @theteacherjames @Marisa_C @bethcagnol @carlaarena Thanks for the link #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:55:01 RT @theteacherjames: @Marisa_C @HadaLitim @bethcagnol @carlaarena This one? http://t.co/poVAo3Qguz #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:55:06 @HadaLitim @muranava @naomishema Well, I do think that flipping makes the delegation of tasks easier. #ELTCHAT
NathanSArthur 2015-03-04T21:55:10 @bethcagnol @Marisa_C #eltchat great Bethany, thanks for that. I'm on my smartphone so didn't have access myself
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:55:17 @angelos_bollas but doesnt the photo disappear? #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:55:30 @angelos_bollas @theteacherjames @HadaLitim @naomishema @bethcagnol aaaaaah now I get it ^_^ #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2015-03-04T21:55:32 @racheldaw18 @Ashowski @naomishema @LizziePinard @sandymillin  don't apologise. Impressed uve read this stuff already ;0) #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:55:36 Where do you all stand in terms of learners asking questions independently to you out-of-hours then?  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:55:40 @theteacherjames @HadaLitim @bethcagnol @carlaarena yes! #eltchatand bless u as well
fielsted 2015-03-04T21:55:56 @Charlesrei1 Sometimes queries come thick&fast=bit demanding?;sometimes quiet, focussed take what they need, look elsewhere if nec #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:56:02 @Shaunwilden they print-screen it and it is automatically saved on their mobile photo albums #ELTchat
theteacherjames 2015-03-04T21:56:19 @Ashowski @angelos_bollas @HadaLitim @naomishema @bethcagnol It's always a good idea to find out what sts are already using. Easier #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:56:22 @bethcagnol @muranava @naomishema and prepares them as they come to class with half of the expectations already clear #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2015-03-04T21:56:23 RT @angelos_bollas: @Shaunwilden Sometimes - they do photo scavenger hunts, they take selfies depicting vocabulary items, etc. #ELTchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:56:23 Right guys I have to sign off - thank you for another #ELTChat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:56:25 @Shaunwilden @angelos_bollas You get to keep the #snapchat photo if you are quick enough, but WhatsApp make more sense for learning #ELTchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:56:26 Sanpchat has not taken here at all, total flop. whatsapp &instagram rule here #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:56:34 RT @theteacherjames: @Ashowski @angelos_bollas @HadaLitim @naomishema @bethcagnol It's always a good idea to find out what sts are already …
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:57:17 @theteacherjames @Ashowski  @naomishema @bethcagnol Not sure abt anywhere else but in the MENA region Whatsapp rules! #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:57:26 @naomishema haven[t used snapchat at all actually curious now  #ELTchat
KateLloyd05 2015-03-04T21:57:34 @naomishema here it's all VKontakt which I can't get into cos it's all in Russian #eltchat
Ashowski 2015-03-04T21:57:37 @HadaLitim @theteacherjames @naomishema @bethcagnol What's MENA? #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:57:39 @angelos_bollas @Shaunwilden Brilliant idea! I've been living & breathing Google Docs this year. Snapchat would B a nice change. #ELTCHAT
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:57:48 @naomishema Or here! Instagram is massive though #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:57:59 @HadaLitim @theteacherjames @Ashowski @naomishema @bethcagnol I also thought Google Docs was popular in classrooms?  #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:57:59 @racheldaw18 @angelos_bollas I both but never thought about snapchat with sts  due to its ephemeral nature, will reinvestigate #ELTCHAT
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:58:06 RT @HadaLitim: @naomishema Or here! Instagram is massive though #eltchat Oh yes!
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:58:14 @Ashowski @theteacherjames @naomishema @bethcagnol Middle East and north Africa (ie the Arab world)  #eltchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T21:58:21 Just reading my blog post on this from long ago http://t.co/mts1B9MTc9 with the autonomy report card http://t.co/EFEqBOt9iv #eltchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:58:24 @bethcagnol You read my mind ;) Do you use Google Docs for homework, then?  #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T21:58:25 Hmm thinking we need to revisit app use in an #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T21:58:52 RT @Shaunwilden: Hmm thinking we need to revisit app use in an #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:58:56 @racheldaw18 @theteacherjames @Ashowski @naomishema @bethcagnol Not here #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T21:59:17 @Shaunwilden Maybe next time! :-) #ELTchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T21:59:36 There are almost too many options, so asking students what they like seems sensible - maybe another topic there :)  #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T21:59:37 @Shaunwilden I'd love that topic! You know I often use your website when I need stuff abt tech! hehe #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T21:59:46 @racheldaw18 Yes. I use it for collaboration too. #ELTCHAT
naomishema 2015-03-04T21:59:49 @muranava @bethcagnol @HadaLitim Have just begun using it for h,w tasks. I link to exercise on proprof. #eltchat
SueAnnan 2015-03-04T21:59:54 who wants to write the summary? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T22:00:00 @racheldaw18 @bethcagnol not for indiv homework but collaborative assignments - though with google class it should be easy  #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T22:00:11 @SueAnnan already sorted #ELTCHAT
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T22:00:20 @Marisa_C I have messaged you one on FB ;-) @naomishema  #ELTchat
KateLloyd05 2015-03-04T22:00:31 @racheldaw18 I have an email account for students to contact me.then I can choose when I reply #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T22:00:34 @SueAnnan @bethcagnol has pre-booked the summary writing  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T22:00:52 RT @KateLloyd05: @racheldaw18 I have an email account for students to contact me.then I can choose when I reply #eltchat
SueAnnan 2015-03-04T22:00:54 @Marisa_C @bethcagnol Okay Cool #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T22:01:01 RT @Marisa_C: @SueAnnan @bethcagnol has pre-booked the summary writing  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T22:01:05 Hahaha! I love the pre-booking state of our summaries!  #ELTchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T22:01:05 @KateLloyd05 Oh that's clever - you mean a separate email account to your personal one?  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T22:01:08 @KateLloyd05 clever girl #ELTchat
naomishema 2015-03-04T22:01:34 It was a pleasure attending the #eltchat, missed it! It's midnight so off to bed. Goodnight all!
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T22:01:48 @racheldaw18 @KateLloyd05 its a definite must :-) #eltchat
Charlesrei1 2015-03-04T22:01:59 This has really made me reflect and think... thanks to all, especially @Marisa_C #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T22:01:59 @muranava @HadaLitim @naomishema I'll suggest texting for next week's topic, OK? #ELTCHAT
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T22:02:00 @bethcagnol Commitment on multiple device participation AND summary shotgunning :) 1 day I will try, but not w/ 3 wks left in job! #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T22:02:04 @naomishema good night Naomi have some wonderful puffin dreams :-)  #ELTchat
NathanSArthur 2015-03-04T22:02:05 #eltchat Does anybody else have students type in class using an assignment shared on Googledocs? I tried it today.
theteacherjames 2015-03-04T22:02:08 @racheldaw18 @HadaLitim @Ashowski @naomishema @bethcagnol I use G Docs for writing homework. It's a lifesaver! #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T22:02:10 right times up :-) #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T22:02:36 @bethcagnol @muranava @naomishema You've got my vote! #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T22:02:47 @NathanSArthur I do - it is great! Have tried it both as S and as T #ELTchat
ITLegge 2015-03-04T22:02:48 @KateLloyd05 @racheldaw18 #eltchat Edmodo!
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T22:02:57 Thanks all :) That was indeed thought-provoking as @Charlesrei1 said! I like the texting suggestion @bethcagnol  #ELTchat
muranava 2015-03-04T22:03:06 @bethcagnol @HadaLitim @naomishema /thumbs up/ :) #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T22:03:11 next weeks it’s the lunchtime chat, you can suggest topics on the website #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T22:03:20 @NathanSArthur I'll suggest that for an #ELTCHAT topic in the future.
ITLegge 2015-03-04T22:03:21 #eltchat Night everyone and thanks!
theteacherjames 2015-03-04T22:03:21 @HadaLitim @Ashowski @naomishema @bethcagnol Whatsapp is massive here too. Only ever had one st who didn't have it! #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T22:03:21 Thank you all for joining - lots of new faces too - great conversation tonight - much appreciated :-)  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T22:03:22 RT @Shaunwilden next weeks it’s the lunchtime chat, you can suggest topics on the website #ELTchat
racheldaw18 2015-03-04T22:03:28 RT @angelos_bollas: RT @Shaunwilden next weeks it’s the lunchtime chat, you can suggest topics on the website #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T22:03:47 @Shaunwilden Indeed...Oh so soon! Great chat everyone! Thanks and good night #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2015-03-04T22:03:56 @racheldaw18 yes.set up sep gmail address.need 2keep work apart from personal. Had separate Facebook 2. No personal pics of pub #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T22:04:06 @SueAnnan will post the transcript soon @bethcagnol when her connection ok  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T22:04:14 Some #ELTchats should last for 2 hours :-) #ELTchat
KateLloyd05 2015-03-04T22:04:26 @ITLegge @racheldaw18 is the one linked to Edmodo! #eltchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T22:04:27 RT @Marisa_C: Thank you all for joining - lots of new faces too - great conversation tonight - much appreciated :-)  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-03-04T22:04:45 meanwhile I will post the @nurph chat link and you can 'replay' the whole chat if you like it's great if u missed the start  #ELTchat
theteacherjames 2015-03-04T22:04:45 Thanks everyone, great chat, see you later! #eltchat
theteacherjames 2015-03-04T22:04:55 RT @Marisa_C: Thank you all for joining - lots of new faces too - great conversation tonight - much appreciated :-)  #ELTchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T22:05:02 @KateLloyd05 @racheldaw18 Or use one SM for prof and another for personal matters #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T22:05:08 @naomishema Totally agree #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2015-03-04T22:05:12 @angelos_bollas it's already midnight here and I have to get some sleep! Would have to start earlier! #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2015-03-04T22:05:38 Thank you @Marisa_C and @nurph ;) #ELTchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T22:05:55 @NathanSArthur Having students type on Google docs in Class? I do that with a plagiarism exercise I do. But that's about it. #ELTCHAT
HadaLitim 2015-03-04T22:05:57 @KateLloyd05 @angelos_bollas It's 1am here but next week's is at the earlier time of 12pm BST #eltchat
bethcagnol 2015-03-04T22:06:07 @NathanSArthur Tell me more about it at work tomorrow. ;-) #ELTCHAT
Shaunwilden 2015-03-04T22:06:09 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C @nurph they should start paying you commission :-) #eltchat

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