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| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:00:29 |
Hi everyone and welcome to tonight's topic on teachers observing other teachers. How can we make the most of this? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:01:08 |
Anyone else joining us to talk about watching other Ts? #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:01:34 |
Hello #ELTchatters! :-) #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:01:41 |
an interesting topic. My colleagues are just about to start doing this for their Diploma #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:02:31 |
@SueAnnan It's a requirement for #delta and #trinity I presume - no? For #delta you have to do 10 #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:02:42 |
RT @Marisa_C: Hi everyone and welcome to tonight's topic on teachers observing other teachers. How can we make the most of this? #ELTchat |
| mary28sou |
2015-02-18T21:02:45 |
Good evening, may I ask when do you have a chance to watch other Ts teaching? #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-02-18T21:03:01 |
Hi everyone #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:03:15 |
@Marisa_C yes same here. The instrument has to be finetuned after 3 hour #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:03:23 |
Good evening and welcome!!! @MarjorieRosenbe @mary28sou #ELTchat |
| ELTchat |
2015-02-18T21:03:34 |
@mary28sou as part of my job :-) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:03:56 |
oops forget to change account #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:04:10 |
@mary28sou is right tho - we should be talking about what working Ts can do - when doing a course, eh, well it's part of the course #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:04:13 |
My job too, but its also useful to do Peer obs for teachers #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:04:27 |
Today I observed a colleague and now that I don't have #Delta in mind, it made me think what is good teaching, after all. #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-02-18T21:04:32 |
@mary28sou Only in seminars for teachers which I co-taught with a colleague. #eltchat |
| Robitaille2011 |
2015-02-18T21:04:53 |
@Marisa_C #ELTchat Hello! Great topic! |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:05:09 |
Ideally, Ts in the same school should be able to find a slot in the week to watch other colleagues #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:05:25 |
but sometimes 30 and 40-hr weeks don't allow for much of this #ELTchat |
| rehanmasoo |
2015-02-18T21:05:39 |
RT @Marisa_C: Good evening and welcome!!! @MarjorieRosenbe @mary28sou #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:05:43 |
I think it is good when the obs have a point to watch out for, rather than vague ones #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2015-02-18T21:06:02 |
Is it possible to define what is 'good' teaching? I watch lessons which are very technically proficiency but which lack 'soul' #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:06:13 |
On #delta courses observations are directed by the tutors #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:06:18 |
RT @languageeteach: Is it possible to define what is 'good' teaching? I watch lessons which are very technically proficiency but which lack… |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:06:30 |
@mary28sou Institutions should require teachers to have an open door policy, don't you think? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:06:39 |
but out there Ts have to decide on their OWN what to get from watching or being watched #ELTchat |
| Robitaille2011 |
2015-02-18T21:06:42 |
@mary28sou #ELTchat Our principal is great at finding ways for us to meet/watch/share. |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:06:54 |
@languageeteach so you’re saying it need to go beyond doing all the ‘technical’ stuff #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:06:56 |
@Marisa_C ON Trinity ones, the choice is made by the candidates, themselves. #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2015-02-18T21:06:59 |
I suppose when you watch Ts you use some sort of rubric? pick sg like board work or pronunciation that especially concerns you?#ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-02-18T21:07:01 |
@Marisa_C Exactly. But watching colleagues present could have some similar features. #eltchat |
| Robitaille2011 |
2015-02-18T21:07:31 |
RT @angelos_bollas: @mary28sou Institutions should require teachers to have an open door policy, don't you think? #ELTchat |
| rehanmasoo |
2015-02-18T21:07:31 |
RT @Marisa_C: but out there Ts have to decide on their OWN what to get from watching or being watched #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:08:05 |
I think it would be good to have a bank of teacher observation checklists - we supply our trainees but i m sure there's loads ! #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:08:12 |
@mary28sou The T who is going to be observed should be able to ask colleagues to focus on a particular area. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:08:17 |
just google and ye shall find! #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:08:29 |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C Exactly. But watching colleagues present could have some similar features.>agree #ELTchat |
| languageeteach |
2015-02-18T21:08:30 |
@Shaunwilden Yes - just because learners produce the language the teacher wants, are they engaged? Is this what they want #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:08:31 |
@Marisa_C am sure if we pooled them we get quite a bank of them #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:08:48 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C am sure if we pooled them we get quite a bank of them #eltchat |
| Robitaille2011 |
2015-02-18T21:08:58 |
We have a pre & post meeting before the classroom visits. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:09:06 |
@Shaunwilden true - i have promised i would share some in the past but then forgot, didn't have time.... u know #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:09:32 |
RT @Robitaille2011: We have a pre & post meeting before the classroom visits. #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:09:45 |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Creating a wiki with observation checklists is a good idea. #ELTchat |
| rehanmasoo |
2015-02-18T21:09:47 |
RT @Marisa_C: I think it would be good to have a bank of teacher observation checklists - we supply our trainees but i m sure there's loads… |
| languageeteach |
2015-02-18T21:10:03 |
@angelos_bollas @mary28sou But some teachers hate being observed. They feel that it will feed back to the Line Manager #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:10:19 |
@angelos_bollas @Shaunwilden or we could just make a page in the ELTchat wiki and upload them #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:10:31 |
@languageeteach no i think you’re right and yes its hard to define but we know it when we see it #ELTchat |
| Robitaille2011 |
2015-02-18T21:10:37 |
@Marisa_C Sometimes it's good to personalize the visit...what are the needs of the teachers? Why are they visiting? #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-02-18T21:10:47 |
@angelos_bollas @mary28sou Goodcidea but when I am not teaching then I am busy doing something else. #eltchat |
| Robitaille2011 |
2015-02-18T21:10:47 |
RT @angelos_bollas: @mary28sou The T who is going to be observed should be able to ask colleagues to focus on a particular area. #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:10:54 |
RT @Marisa_C @angelos_bollas @Shaunwilden or we could just make a page in the ELTchat wiki and upload them > good one! :) #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:11:07 |
@languageeteach in that case, i would suggest u hook up with colleagues not working with u and video urself #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:11:25 |
it's very easy to share videos on You tube by making them private #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:11:50 |
@languageeteach @mary28sou It means that both the line manager & the teacher(s) need to understand the benefits of being observed #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:11:52 |
and you could chat or Skype or whatever to help each other improve #ELTchat |
| languageeteach |
2015-02-18T21:12:33 |
@Shaunwilden The most useful report on my teaching was on its content -thinking about it in a new way not techniques #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:12:34 |
This calls for creating some sort of online community who could help one another #ELTchat |
| joannacre |
2015-02-18T21:12:43 |
@Marisa_C yeap!! kind of an eye opener actually : ) #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:12:43 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @mary28sou How about using tech and record a lesson of yours and share it with colleagues? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:12:46 |
I think the teachers have to see a benefit from the sessions. Then they don't mind being observed. #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:13:36 |
RT @Marisa_C This calls for creating some sort of online community who could help one another > like #ELTchat! :) #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:13:37 |
@languageeteach am now remembering watching you teach :-0 #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:13:51 |
RT @SueAnnan: I think the teachers have to see a benefit from the sessions. Then they don't mind being observed. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:13:51 |
@SueAnnan I think you are right - also usually ppl who have done courses with lots of observed teaching are more OK with this #ELTchat |
| languageeteach |
2015-02-18T21:14:11 |
@Shaunwilden Hope it wasn't that bad! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:14:12 |
@Shaunwilden @languageeteach hey so u were her tutor! :-D #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-02-18T21:14:13 |
I think teaching is really individual, not sure about setting up a common check-list. What works for one might not for another. #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:14:29 |
@SueAnnan One needs to get trained on the benefits of it - my first time, I was shocked. Now, I ask for it. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:14:31 |
My Dip colleagues will be watching me and some of my co-workers. But we aren't allowed to know what they are observing #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2015-02-18T21:14:34 |
#ELTchat iatefl Poland conference 2012 had demo lessons Dellar, Harmer et al plenary Spkrs & was great but no specific focus more the flow |
| languageeteach |
2015-02-18T21:14:44 |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden No!!! We did the diploma together #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:14:45 |
@MarjorieRosenbe u're so right - MANY different checklists are needed! #ELTchat |
| Robitaille2011 |
2015-02-18T21:14:50 |
RT @Marisa_C: and you could chat or Skype or whatever to help each other improve #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:14:56 |
@languageeteach @Shaunwilden OK! #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:15:09 |
@Marisa_C @languageeteach No no we were colleagues and did the dip together #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-02-18T21:15:23 |
@SueAnnan I agree and we learn from obs. I had a dominant student and asked my observer to give me ideas on how to deal with her #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2015-02-18T21:15:28 |
#ELTchat like Marjorie's idea a lot! |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:15:46 |
@MarjorieRosenbe In the past I have also asked trainees to create their own checklists #ELTchat |
| languageeteach |
2015-02-18T21:15:48 |
@Robitaille2011 @Marisa_C I'm not saying I hate being observed just commenting on my context. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:16:00 |
@joannacre yes. sometimes an outsider to the class sees things we don't #eltchat |
| Jane_Seely |
2015-02-18T21:16:01 |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: I think teaching is really individual, not sure about setting up a common check-list. What works for one might not fo… |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:16:46 |
RT @joannacre: @SueAnnan I agree and we learn from obs. I had a dominant student and asked my observer to give me ideas on how to deal with… |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:17:15 |
So, what's the best way to use obs? #ELTchat |
| mary28sou |
2015-02-18T21:17:18 |
#ELTchat because really hard to coordinate schedules with colleagues evbody working at 2-3 schools |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:17:18 |
@Marisa_C @MarjorieRosenbe creating your own checklist /agenda makes observation more worthwhile doesn’t it? #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-02-18T21:17:27 |
@Marisa_C good idea. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:17:34 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C @MarjorieRosenbe creating your own checklist /agenda makes observation more worthwhile doesn’t it? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:17:39 |
I think a whole lesson may be a big commitment int terms of time for both parties #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:17:57 |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @MarjorieRosenbe Yes, I agree #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:18:06 |
I would suggest you ask someone to focus on a part of a lesson and may be a specific aspect of your teaching #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:18:26 |
@Marisa_C depends on lesson length but it is nice to see the beginning middle and end to see who it develops #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:18:29 |
@Marisa_C Preceded and followed by group discussion, right? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:18:56 |
Another think you can do is to videotape and observe your class @hannaticha did some videos like that #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:19:09 |
I think it depends on the purpose. If for the teacher being observed- they choose topic. For observer? they choose topic #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:19:10 |
she videotaped her SS and observed their reactions to HER! #ELTchat |
| Robitaille2011 |
2015-02-18T21:19:38 |
RT @Marisa_C: I would suggest you ask someone to focus on a part of a lesson and may be a specific aspect of your teaching #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:19:43 |
@Marisa_C whats videotape? ;-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:19:48 |
You can video yourself and a class plan and tick a student every time they talk e.g. #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:19:50 |
RT @Marisa_C she videotaped her SS and observed their reactions to HER!>useful, but a second pair of eyes is always a plus. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:20:10 |
@Shaunwilden another century #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:20:55 |
Recording a lesson also useful - just the audio & ticking who talks and what kind of talk #ELTchat |
| olyaelt |
2015-02-18T21:21:15 |
Concentrating on observing students is a great idea. I learnt a lot when I recorded mine during groupwork. #eltchat |
| rehanmasoo |
2015-02-18T21:21:31 |
RT @Marisa_C: You can video yourself and a class plan and tick a student every time they talk e.g. #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:21:39 |
@Marisa_C Yes can be very effective way of observing! #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:21:41 |
What about SS who are not used to having an obs in their class? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:22:41 |
@angelos_bollas there were two of us obs in classes last week. SS were not fazed at all #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:22:46 |
@angelos_bollas Usually not a problem and I have observed HUNDreds of hrs and classes - Ss are cool with Ts learning #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:23:16 |
@angelos_bollas in schools i have worked in they are used to an observer #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2015-02-18T21:23:51 |
#ELTchat so up to now we're saying best way to watch other Ts is ask them to share videos/audios of themselves, right? |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:24:15 |
@mary28sou well if you can’t do it live then yes :-) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:24:23 |
@mary28sou No. Just that it is one way to do it #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-02-18T21:24:29 |
@angelos_bollas when I was observed during the sum my sts were so talkative and engaged. They said we r trying to help you Joanna #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:24:34 |
@mary28sou Not the best way but a good solution which also allows for more observations and watching other T-ing styles #ELTchat |
| mary28sou |
2015-02-18T21:24:44 |
#eltchat I mean most expedient way |
| bethcagnol |
2015-02-18T21:25:03 |
#eltchat sorry I'm late! Had to put critter to bed. |
| vickysaumell |
2015-02-18T21:25:09 |
RT @theteacherjames: The final episode of @edtechconcerns podcast available at http://t.co/lsUx8XH8TB -highly recommended! #eltchat #edtech |
| iatefl_ltsig |
2015-02-18T21:25:10 |
RT @theteacherjames: The final episode of @edtechconcerns podcast available at http://t.co/awFGN2E7ha -highly recommended! #eltchat #edtech |
| languageeteach |
2015-02-18T21:25:13 |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @MarjorieRosenbe Agree. It's great to observe people who do sth experimental, e.g. using poetry/drama etc. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:25:14 |
@mary28sou that would depend on your circumstances #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:25:18 |
I think it's also good cos some Ts develop a school house style - gd to see other Ts in other contexts #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:25:30 |
RT @joannacre @angelos_bollas when I was obs my sts were so talkative and engaged. They said we r trying to help you>love them! #ELTchat |
| Melbtraining |
2015-02-18T21:25:36 |
@Marisa_C This would be a great idea (online peer obs) for DELTA candidates who are a bit isolated #eltchat |
| pazuniga |
2015-02-18T21:25:45 |
RT @iatefl_ltsig: RT @theteacherjames: The final episode of @edtechconcerns podcast available at http://t.co/awFGN2E7ha -highly recommended… |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:25:54 |
Sorry for the SIG tweet it wasn’t me honest #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:26:02 |
@Shaunwilden grrrr #ELTchat |
| mary28sou |
2015-02-18T21:26:21 |
#ELTchat it could work at the private business EN school where I work |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:26:25 |
@Marisa_C i’ll have words :-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:26:37 |
@Melbtraining we have isolated trainees as well on our online courses - we lifestream lessons #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:26:53 |
@Melbtraining and show them in closed Facebook group #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:27:35 |
Hi Beth. Glad you could make it #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:27:57 |
@Marisa_C does the livestream take a lot of prep? #eltchat |
| olyaelt |
2015-02-18T21:28:09 |
@Marisa_C What tech do you use to lifestream? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:28:40 |
@Shaunwilden Naaaah it's very easy - @angelos_bollas did some today - I was observing a DELTA lesson #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:28:53 |
@olyaelt @Marisa_C presuambly a webcam and livestream procaster? How do you get good sound? #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2015-02-18T21:29:03 |
#eltchat excuse this btw Shaun what is your topic at Dublin conf & will there be streaming? |
| dcowart |
2015-02-18T21:29:05 |
The problem with video is you capture the all of the subtle moves ts and ss make during instruction and you miss dialogue. #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:29:09 |
Livestream can be a great option when in schools who don't allow obs. (why they don't allow is another question) #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2015-02-18T21:29:16 |
@Marisa_C Hello - great topic #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:29:40 |
We use very basic tech - an iPad :-) or an iPhone - works great #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:30:14 |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Very easy, indeed. An iAnything, an app, and ready to go! recordings are saved for 30 days. #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:30:48 |
@Marisa_C Yeah we’ve started using iPad recordings for some of our courses it is really quite effective #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:31:07 |
@Shaunwilden I also sometimes record on iPad and just upload to YouTube #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:31:15 |
Just sound can be a bit of an issue #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:31:23 |
Used my ipad to record a lesson last week. Sound wasn't fantastic #eltchat What App do you use? |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-02-18T21:31:23 |
@languageeteach @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C that would be fun. #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
2015-02-18T21:32:07 |
Sorry. Late-comer question. What's the #eltchat topic? |
| languageeteach |
2015-02-18T21:32:11 |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Sounds intersting - do you have any examples of how you do this? Weblinks? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:32:20 |
Haven't had a prob with sound but you can record audio as well from another source #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:32:37 |
RT @Shaunwilden Just sound can be a bit of an issue> Try 'Voice Record Pro" on iPad - great sound quality #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:32:51 |
@bethcagnol getting the most out of observing other teachers #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:33:10 |
@Shaunwilden Duly noted thanks #ELTchat |
| fionaljp |
2015-02-18T21:33:10 |
@angelos_bollas @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C have been meaning to have a go at recording with iPad - on list of things to do #eltchat |
| fionaljp |
2015-02-18T21:33:34 |
RT @Marisa_C: This calls for creating some sort of online community who could help one another #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:33:35 |
@angelos_bollas Its more the distance between the teacher and the iPad #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
2015-02-18T21:33:40 |
@SueAnnan Thanks! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:34:07 |
I have parts of a lesson I can share - permission and all from one of my trainees wait a minute #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:34:20 |
@Shaunwilden You're right - an external mic would help, I think. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:34:20 |
@Shaunwilden @angelos_bollas and not being intrusive #eltchat |
| olyaelt |
2015-02-18T21:34:45 |
Thank you, we're a distributed school so the idea to livestream lessons is a life saver - will definitely try! #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:34:53 |
@angelos_bollas I have one but it means wires etc which gets in the way #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:35:24 |
@Shaunwilden Never used one, to be honest. I hope there is a wireless option, too. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:35:30 |
Here is a lesson - parts of it recorded with iPad https://t.co/3R2Mt7VVz1 #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:36:12 |
that was in 2012 #ELTchat |
| bethcagnol |
2015-02-18T21:36:16 |
I've done some team-teaching + observing with one colleague. The combination of the 2 has been extremely rewarding. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:36:29 |
@angelos_bollas External mic and an iPad is not easy (i do a lot of recording on iPad so looked into it alot) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:36:32 |
@bethcagnol not surprised #ELTchat |
| bethcagnol |
2015-02-18T21:37:04 |
@olyaelt Oh cool! Livestream lesson. Now that's a good idea. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:37:06 |
@bethcagnol do you teach in the same room at the same time? #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2015-02-18T21:37:15 |
#eltchat I have a few short vids of me setting up an activity if anyone is interested, taken on an iPad |
| languageeteach |
2015-02-18T21:37:27 |
What happens if you watch what you think is a 'bad' lesson informally and the teacher asks for feedback. Are you honest? #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:37:36 |
@Shaunwilden Shall we ask Apple to do their miracles, then? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:38:09 |
@mary28sou that would be great sharing Mary pls share #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:38:13 |
@languageeteach There's always room for improvement. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:38:42 |
@languageeteach would you have no redeeming features to comment on? make a sandwich with the bad in the middle-to help #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
2015-02-18T21:38:45 |
@SueAnnan Yup. We offer to teach or observe each other's classes from time to time and to come along whenever we feel like it. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:38:45 |
@languageeteach Good Question - How honest can you be? #ELTchat |
| joannacre |
2015-02-18T21:38:57 |
@bethcagnol when peer obser for the 1st time in my life, i didn't wanna hurt my colleague's feelings so I wasn't really helpful : (#eltchat |
| olyaelt |
2015-02-18T21:39:12 |
@languageteach #eltchat I try to also note down everything that I liked and give lots of positive feedback as well as negative. |
| languageeteach |
2015-02-18T21:39:45 |
@SueAnnan Not always. I always think if the best you can come up with is 'rapport', there's not much to say! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:39:46 |
@joannacre but this changed didn't it? I don't recall you being an angel ALL the time!!! :-D #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:39:58 |
@angelos_bollas Oh it can be done just costs a far proportion of a teachers salary :-) #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
2015-02-18T21:40:04 |
@languageeteach I would first ask, "How do you think it went?" #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:40:11 |
@languageeteach true :-) #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:40:12 |
@languageeteach and "you moved well around the class" :-D @SueAnnan #ELTchat |
| olyaelt |
2015-02-18T21:40:26 |
#eltchat Stole that from my CELTA tutors! There were lots of smileys and ticks in their feedback, and I learnt a lot from those. |
| joannacre |
2015-02-18T21:40:45 |
@Marisa_C haha hell yeah!Now I am like pam wam bam haha jk :P #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
2015-02-18T21:41:21 |
@languageeteach I would also ask to see a second class if possible. Maybe the teacher was having an off day. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:41:21 |
I think in the case of a colleague who has invited you, it might be a good idea to ask THEM to say what they are worried about #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:41:25 |
#ELTCHAT I'm here! |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:41:37 |
People cannot process ALL The feedback we give them all the time #ELTchat |
| languageeteach |
2015-02-18T21:41:37 |
@SueAnnan But is the feedback sandwich out to lunch? !http://t.co/feg6AJGYTl #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:42:01 |
@Marisa_C they probably know what they want to work on anyway, right? #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
2015-02-18T21:42:08 |
Can I be blunt and say one-time observations are not very effective? #eltchat #ducksandhides |
| languageeteach |
2015-02-18T21:42:13 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan And you monitored! #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:42:19 |
@olyaelt being positive is encouraging, right? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:42:24 |
@languageeteach @SueAnnan lol! #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-02-18T21:42:35 |
@bethcagnol That's what I've done in teacher training but never in classroom work. Interesting to watch though. #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:42:41 |
@bethcagnol better one than none. #ELTchat |
| bethcagnol |
2015-02-18T21:42:44 |
RT @Marisa_C: People cannot process ALL The feedback we give them all the time #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:42:44 |
@languageeteach I still think there is a place for it. After all- you have to work with these people afterwards #eltchat |
| olyaelt |
2015-02-18T21:42:48 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat and also in what form they want feedback (e.g. I liked it when other teachers reformulated my instructions). |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:42:55 |
@angelos_bollas @languageeteach but what if you're just perfect ? :P #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T21:43:05 |
@bethcagnol do you think there could be more literature on observation and team teaching in ELT? Sort of suggestions 4 how to do it #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:43:10 |
@mary28sou you got a link? :D #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2015-02-18T21:43:11 |
@bethcagnol Good point. It's hard to shake off preconceptions though isn't it? #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:43:32 |
@Ashowski lol @languageeteach #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:43:35 |
@harrisonmike @bethcagnol Hi Mike #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:43:39 |
I think the John Fanselow book is the best I have seen so far - will look for it #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:43:58 |
@harrisonmike @bethcagnol I definitely think there could be. #eltchat |
| fionaljp |
2015-02-18T21:44:00 |
@harrisonmike @bethcagnol Good idea #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:44:01 |
let me do some quick googling #ELTchat |
| joannacre |
2015-02-18T21:44:09 |
@Ashowski @angelos_bollas @languageeteach yeah exactly!! what if :P #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2015-02-18T21:44:11 |
@SueAnnan I agree. I just find it hard not to sound trite. Sometimes Ts say 'just be honest'. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:44:21 |
a lot of the better writings on teacher observation are NOT from ELT #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:44:28 |
@harrisonmike @bethcagnol starting an ADoS role on Monday at @ihbuenosaires #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:44:44 |
Flanders, Stabbs etc are more interesting reads #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:44:44 |
@harrisonmike @bethcagnol when I ask peeps out there about how best to do obs and feedback not many answers :-( #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:44:50 |
@Ashowski @harrisonmike @bethcagnol @ihbuenosaires congratulations #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2015-02-18T21:44:57 |
@Ashowski @angelos_bollas You comment on the boardwriting. Good boardwork is a thing of the past! #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:45:04 |
RT @Marisa_C: I think the John Fanselow book is the best I have seen so far - will look for it #ELTchat |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T21:45:18 |
That's my dream project sorted then - documentary plus methodology book on observation and team teaching :) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:45:25 |
@harrisonmike Hey Mr ADOS cograts!!!! Wow #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:45:34 |
@Marisa_C really? from teaching in general? :) #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:46:18 |
@harrisonmike let me know when it's pubslihed ^_^ #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:46:26 |
@Ashowski yes - the Fanselow book is "Breaking Rules" #ELTchat |
| joannacre |
2015-02-18T21:46:28 |
@Ashowski @harrisonmike @bethcagnol @ihbuenosaires congrats!!! #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:46:45 |
@SueAnnan @harrisonmike @bethcagnol @ihbuenosaires thank you ^_^ #eltchat |
| ariascarm |
2015-02-18T21:46:46 |
@Marisa_C Hello! Great topic! I did it in my Training , difficult now at work though, system in Spain don'y promote it #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2015-02-18T21:46:52 |
@harrisonmike @bethcagnol A great idea. #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T21:47:20 |
@Ashowski not so good :( #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:47:27 |
I think it's best if each institution has their own 'protocol' for obs. #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:47:33 |
@Marisa_C @harrisonmike Thank you Marisa ^_^ flying out on Friday. Can't wait #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:47:36 |
Mike Stabs 'Explorations in Teacher Observation" http://t.co/lPZBceh18E #ELTchat |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T21:47:56 |
@bethcagnol hence documentary, kind of 'lives of teachers' type stuff #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:48:03 |
@Marisa_C will get my hands on a copy #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
2015-02-18T21:48:20 |
@Ashowski @harrisonmike Some of the best advice I've been given on how to observe was from a DELTA trainer here in France. #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:48:27 |
RT @Marisa_C: Mike Stabs 'Explorations in Teacher Observation" http://t.co/lPZBceh18E #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:48:33 |
@harrisonmike sounds great! @bethcagnol #ELTchat |
| ariascarm |
2015-02-18T21:48:35 |
RT @Marisa_C: Ideally, Ts in the same school should be able to find a slot in the week to watch other colleagues #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:48:41 |
@angelos_bollas Why? #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
2015-02-18T21:49:03 |
@harrisonmike Sounds like a great documentary! #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T21:49:11 |
@angelos_bollas @bethcagnol how to fund and organise it is another matter though! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:49:18 |
Mike Wallace's book on training FL teachers has some #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:49:21 |
@Marisa_C schools should stagger lessons and teachers so there's always opportunity for either peer observation or cover #eltchat |
| ariascarm |
2015-02-18T21:49:26 |
RT @Marisa_C: Mike Stabs 'Explorations in Teacher Observation" http://t.co/lPZBceh18E #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:49:54 |
Enarf said on books #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:49:54 |
@harrisonmike @angelos_bollas @bethcagnol ask for volunteers you might be surprised :-) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:49:56 |
@Ashowski @Marisa_C depends on size of school. It could be costly #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
2015-02-18T21:50:16 |
RT @Ashowski: @Marisa_C schools should stagger lessons and teachers so there's always opportunity for either peer observation or cover #elt… |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:50:26 |
@Ashowski Ts know what and how to do it - less drama, methinks. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:50:30 |
@Ashowski Agree - but some jam pack teaching hours so no one can see anyone else #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:50:41 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @harrisonmike @angelos_bollas @bethcagnol ask for volunteers you might be surprised :-) #eltchat> agree! |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T21:50:46 |
@Shaunwilden @angelos_bollas @bethcagnol might have one already lined up ;) but depends a lot on work situation in May #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:51:07 |
@harrisonmike @bethcagnol you should get in touch with @josipa74 he is interested in this kind of stuff #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:51:27 |
@Ashowski @harrisonmike @bethcagnol @josipa74 me too! :-P #ELTchat |
| ariascarm |
2015-02-18T21:51:29 |
@bethcagnol @Ashowski @harrisonmike me by another Delta T Trainer at Bell courses #eltchat Tim Hazel |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:51:36 |
@harrisonmike are you going to be observing as part of your job Mike ? #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-02-18T21:51:53 |
@bethcagnol Would agree. But it is certainly a time factor. #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:51:53 |
@angelos_bollas fair enough :) #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T21:52:42 |
@Marisa_C no, I'm not Adosing. Still at Beeb atm. But I want to film and write about classroom stuff #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:53:32 |
@SueAnnan set me right! it's @Ashowski with the new job! Those antibiotics are messing with my vision!!!! :-D #ELTchat |
| ariascarm |
2015-02-18T21:53:33 |
@Ashowski @Marisa_C there is a wide belief that peers can be judging you while observing #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:54:19 |
@ariascarm @Ashowski @Marisa_C Best to give the observations a purpose then #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:54:23 |
@ariascarm teaching can change some beliefs, right? @Ashowski @Marisa_C #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:54:25 |
@ariascarm and it's probably based on some truth - if they are ill willed indivs they might be @Ashowski #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-02-18T21:54:35 |
@Ashowski @Marisa_C @harrisonmike Congrats. Sounds very exciting. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:54:45 |
We are heading towards needing a summary writer…. #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T21:54:58 |
I've started reading Observation in the language classroom http://t.co/wEbyRXZz0N #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:55:00 |
A lot of the attitudes are the responsibility of your school leadership and the climate they generate #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:55:15 |
@Shaunwilden Good God, where did the time go?#eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:55:27 |
RT @harrisonmike: I've started reading Observation in the language classroom http://t.co/wEbyRXZz0N #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:55:32 |
RT @harrisonmike: I've started reading Observation in the language classroom http://t.co/wEbyRXZz0N #eltchat |
| olyaelt |
2015-02-18T21:55:33 |
@ariascarm Creating obs sheets that encourage positive feedback could be a solution ('what do you want to steal' type of thing) #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:55:57 |
@Shaunwilden this is a topic dear to my heart so I'm happy to #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:56:16 |
If the climate of the school is not the right one well... #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:56:25 |
@SueAnnan @Shaunwilden flies by when you're having fun :) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T21:56:27 |
@Ashowski @Shaunwilden Excellent. Ill get the transcript to you shortly #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:56:47 |
@teflwithtilly pls do not interrupt our chat with irrelevant tweets #ELTchat |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T21:56:57 |
Main point so far by Allwright is observation is hard to quantify because of so many variables #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:56:58 |
@SueAnnan Thank you! It won’t be ready til end of next week coz I”m moving on Friday/Saturday to Buenos Aires #eltchat |
| ariascarm |
2015-02-18T21:57:00 |
@olyaelt exactly , some kind of rules or protocol could make it work #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T21:57:04 |
@Marisa_C Like this one: M. Randall and B. Thornton, "Advising and Supporting Teachers" http://t.co/ZdByLmfWzV #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:57:15 |
@harrisonmike observation is? c #eltchat |
| ariascarm |
2015-02-18T21:57:32 |
@angelos_bollas @Ashowski @Marisa_C definitely !#eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T21:57:51 |
Eg global methodological comparison largely impossible to do using classroom observation - too difficult! #eltchat |
| eteacherjon |
2015-02-18T21:57:54 |
Ideas #4: Some random thoughts and ideas about one-to-one teaching practice http://t.co/mFJiMOipIV #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:58:17 |
Lots of uneducated DOSes thrive on a climate of mistrust and nailing colleagues #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T21:58:18 |
RT @angelos_bollas: @Marisa_C Like this one: M. Randall and B. Thornton, "Advising and Supporting Teachers" http://t.co/ZdByLmfWzV #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-02-18T21:58:25 |
Good night all. I as good to be able to take part again. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:58:26 |
@harrisonmike Yes thanks :-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:58:36 |
@eteacherjon we are in the middle of a chat pls DO NOT Interrput! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:59:06 |
interrupt! #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:59:13 |
@Marisa_C yes cos many DOSes not actually equipped to be so #eltchat |
| fionaljp |
2015-02-18T21:59:27 |
Good night and thanks #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T21:59:37 |
@Shaunwilden think it was Farrell's plenary at IATEFL 2011 that demoed how hard recording obs data is! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T21:59:40 |
@Shaunwilden it's true! some are not qualified to be anything! #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T21:59:50 |
@Marisa_C Can i interrput? Great new word ;-) #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T22:00:06 |
@Shaunwilden interaction patterns, etc #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T22:00:13 |
@harrisonmike this ain't no new thang! glad ELT has discovered it tho @Shaunwilden #ELTchat |
| mary28sou |
2015-02-18T22:00:15 |
#eltchat my school just had workshop on giving instructions now I can ask participants to record thmslvs giving instructions & share! |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T22:00:26 |
@Marisa_C terribly true - sad. My last DoS based everything on classroom management - most variable factor - nothing about stages #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T22:00:28 |
@Shaunwilden lol can't spell! #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-02-18T22:00:33 |
Thanks for a great chat, as always #ELTchat Transcript on its way |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T22:00:54 |
Have we got a summary writer yet? #ELTchat |
| ariascarm |
2015-02-18T22:01:12 |
“@Shaunwilden: @harrisonmike observation is? c #eltchat” focus on one - and only one - aspect of the práctice of teaching at a time |
| olyaelt |
2015-02-18T22:01:18 |
@mary28sou please do! #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T22:01:34 |
thanks guys - was great to get involved again after a pause #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T22:01:48 |
@mary28sou that would be fantastic mary thanks #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T22:02:00 |
@Marisa_C me #eltchat |
| nadiyahjan |
2015-02-18T22:02:12 |
RT @harrisonmike: I've started reading Observation in the language classroom http://t.co/wEbyRXZz0N #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T22:02:20 |
@Ashowski good to have u back and congrats on the new job :-) #ELTchat |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T22:02:24 |
@ariascarm @Shaunwilden and clear questions: why are you observing? what do you want to check/improve? #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T22:02:27 |
RT @ariascarm: “@Shaunwilden: @harrisonmike observation is? c #eltchat” focus on one - and only one - aspect of the práctice of teaching at… |
| Ashowski |
2015-02-18T22:02:32 |
@Marisa_C thank you ^_^ #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2015-02-18T22:02:39 |
#eltchat I will try to write the summary. |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T22:02:46 |
@Ashowski wonderful! thanks!!!! #ELTchat |
| bethcagnol |
2015-02-18T22:02:57 |
Glad to participate in the 2nd half of #eltchat Back after a 1-year + break. |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T22:03:06 |
@harrisonmike shouldn't that be "why are you being observed, etc.?" @ariascarm @Shaunwilden #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T22:03:15 |
@mary28sou a raincheck? @Ashowski has already offered #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T22:03:20 |
RT @harrisonmike: think it was Farrell's plenary at IATEFL 2011 #eltchat i didn’t realise it was on iTunes http://t.co/nngR3pan6y |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T22:03:30 |
@angelos_bollas @ariascarm @Shaunwilden that too #eltchat |
| olyaelt |
2015-02-18T22:03:45 |
@harrisonmike #ELTchat And also having clear outcomes of the observations (a 'todo list' for yourself based on what you've observed). |
| mary28sou |
2015-02-18T22:03:47 |
#eltchat good night all! |
| joannacre |
2015-02-18T22:03:55 |
nitie nite #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T22:04:19 |
@angelos_bollas @ariascarm @Shaunwilden but also maybe we can think about self-observation with video, blog... #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T22:04:19 |
@Shaunwilden @harrisonmike this a terrific find!!! didn't know it was all there! #ELTchat |
| bethcagnol |
2015-02-18T22:04:19 |
@Shaunwilden @harrisonmike Tom's plenary is excellent for reflecting on observations. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T22:04:26 |
thought stuff had been lost! #ELTchat |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T22:04:35 |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @harrisonmike: think it was Farrell's plenary at IATEFL 2011 #eltchat i didn’t realise it was on iTunes http://t.co/n… |
| mary28sou |
2015-02-18T22:04:35 |
#eltchat ok rain check |
| ariascarm |
2015-02-18T22:04:43 |
@Ashowski @Marisa_C thank you !! #eltchat great chat , so short!! Lots of fav. Time to read . Nighty Night! |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T22:04:58 |
@Marisa_C @harrisonmike No nor I i was googling and found it #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T22:05:16 |
RT @harrisonmike: @angelos_bollas @ariascarm @Shaunwilden but also maybe we can think about self-observation with video, blog... #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T22:05:40 |
Thanks to all and great to see some familiar faces come back to #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T22:05:59 |
Gosh we’re done time wise that went very quickly #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T22:06:09 |
@harrisonmike Self-obs can be great, too @ariascarm @Shaunwilden #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T22:06:17 |
@Shaunwilden was a good one :-D #ELTchat |
| olyaelt |
2015-02-18T22:06:20 |
Good night everyone! #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2015-02-18T22:06:22 |
Night all, see you next time #ELTchat |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T22:06:22 |
RT @olyaelt: @harrisonmike #ELTchat And also having clear outcomes of the observations (a 'todo list' for yourself based on what you've obs… |
| harrisonmike |
2015-02-18T22:06:33 |
RT @angelos_bollas: @harrisonmike Self-obs can be great, too @ariascarm @Shaunwilden #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T22:06:44 |
@bethcagnol @Shaunwilden @harrisonmike @Shaunwilden @olyaelt night all #ELTchat |
| ariascarm |
2015-02-18T22:06:47 |
@harrisonmike @angelos_bollas @Shaunwilden yes, that is really productive ,I can tell you :-) observing oneself can bring surprises #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T22:07:17 |
@ariascarm and lots of shock!!! remember watching myself on video for the first time! #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-02-18T22:07:26 |
Good night, #ELTchat - thanks for a great discussion! :-) #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T22:07:33 |
@ariascarm helped me fix a lot of rubbish! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T22:08:06 |
@angelos_bollas night night xxx #ELTchat |
| ariascarm |
2015-02-18T22:09:31 |
@Marisa_C LOL yes! Me rolling my eyes upwards ... Moving hands as If scaring flies...#eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-02-18T22:09:45 |
@Shaunwilden Rats!!! You gave me a lot of homework with those iTune links! #ELTchat |
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