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Instructional Design

Page history last edited by sue annan 9 years, 2 months ago
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T11:00:26 @adi_rajan Looks like your topic suggestion from last week in ON #ELTchat - today at 12 p.m. GMT
ELTchat 2015-02-11T11:02:03 Stop voting! :-D Poll closed "What instructional design skills are useful in ELT and how do we go about acquiring them?" In 1 hour #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:05:20 Welcome to #ELTchat on Wednesday 12 pm GMT - Our topic today suggested by @adi_rajan  who wants to talk about instructional design skills
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:06:46 I will be moderating this one on my own - Happy Birtthday to our super moderator @Shaunwilden  from all at #ELTchat - Have an awesome day!
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:07:48 Anyone joining or shall I continue talking to myself :-D #ELTchat
adi_rajan 2015-02-11T12:13:18 . @Marisa_C Oh no Marisa. It doesn't look like anyone's interested in instructional design :( #eltchat
adi_rajan 2015-02-11T12:14:25 I suggested this topic cuz increasingly Ts are involved in digital & blended learning which is traditionally the preserve of ID #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:15:18 @adi_rajan so you wanted to talk about online instructional design? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:15:50 @adi_rajan 's u n'me boy :-) #ELTchat
NewbieCELTA 2015-02-11T12:16:14 @Marisa_C instructional design, eh? Layman's translation? #eltchat
NewbieCELTA 2015-02-11T12:16:33 @Marisa_C what iz it? #ELTchat
adi_rajan 2015-02-11T12:16:38 @Marisa_C I reckon online is where it might be most relevant #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:16:52 @NewbieCELTA I was hoping Adi would provide this - the term is very broad #ELTchat
adi_rajan 2015-02-11T12:17:00 @Marisa_C lmao #ELTchat
adi_rajan 2015-02-11T12:17:45 @NewbieCELTA @Marisa_C The science of designing learning #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:18:00 @adi_rajan It seems to me you are talking either at one or two levels - materials design for online/blended learning & ....cont #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:18:44 @adi_rajan @NewbieCELTA  ...cont.. lesson and syllabus design for same #ELTchat - this is too broad to do justice in one #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:20:41 @adi_rajan Have you read "Essentials of Online Course Design"? #ELTchat
adi_rajan 2015-02-11T12:20:57 @Marisa_C @NewbieCELTA Not if we stick to the types of instructional design skills which might be useful to elt teachers #ELTchat
NewbieCELTA 2015-02-11T12:21:17 @Marisa_C @adi_rajan wow...is there a go-to book/resource for this? #eltchat
NewbieCELTA 2015-02-11T12:22:46 @adi_rajan @Marisa_C so, instruction design is _____ing...? #eltchat what goes in there?
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:23:03 @NewbieCELTA @adi_rajan I can suggest a few titles #eltchat (one already up)
adi_rajan 2015-02-11T12:24:03 @Marisa_C i haven't read that one. Read lots from Pfeiffer but they're not written from an SLA perspective #eltchat
BobK99 2015-02-11T12:24:32 @Marisa_C Sorry late - system probs. Catching up with #eltchat... :-)
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:24:46 @adi_rajan It's an OK definition but fail to see which aspect of it you wish to discuss - the construct is in place already #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:26:24 RT @adi_rajan: @Marisa_C so should Ts know how to write objectives per Bloom's Taxonomy? > ELT doesn't know how to do that #eltchat
adi_rajan 2015-02-11T12:26:47 @Marisa_C would Gagnes nine events be useful for designing online language learning? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:27:05 @adi_rajan Bloom not included in ANY official syllabuses of ELT qualifications - but highly pertinent #Eltchat not enough though
NewbieCELTA 2015-02-11T12:27:13 @Marisa_C @adi_rajan oops sorry forgot hashtag! #eltchat
BobK99 2015-02-11T12:27:41 RT @NewbieCELTA: @Marisa_C @adi_rajan wow...is there a go-to book/resource for this? #eltchat - Make that "RQ" :-)
adi_rajan 2015-02-11T12:28:24 Should we apply Kirkpatrick's levels of evaluation to a language course? #eltchat
NewbieCELTA 2015-02-11T12:29:04 @BobK99 @Marisa_C @adi_rajan #eltchat how does it differ from 'method'? In the meantime, I'll read the wiki...! :P
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:29:31 @adi_rajan Gagne of some relevance but motor skills not pertinent throughout age groups #eltchat
adi_rajan 2015-02-11T12:30:51 @Marisa_C i thought gagne targets cognitive skills not psychomotor ability #ELTchat
adi_rajan 2015-02-11T12:31:35 Do you think these are skills worth covering in the elt teacher-training repotoire? @Marisa_C @NewbieCELTA #ELTchat
CarlosMontoro 2015-02-11T12:31:42 RT @whyshona: Webinars for language teachers | Feb-Mar 2015 | #elt #eltchat http://t.co/iGr8zZJ5qn
BobK99 2015-02-11T12:32:13 #eltchat - Any views on Salmon: e-Activities? I've got it, but haven't got very far.
JenMac_ESL 2015-02-11T12:32:49 @Marisa_C @adi_rajan Am just following #eltchat today. Very relevant topic! Can't particip b/c it's pre-class morning rush here in Canada.
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:33:01 @adi_rajan   I think the twist and names u are introducing would need some pre-chat reading - not all have read all u list/mention #ELTchat
adi_rajan 2015-02-11T12:34:08 @Marisa_C should we defer this chat and post a pre chat glossary? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:34:13 @adi_rajan If ELT pre-service courses were 250 hours or so - and more hrs higher - you might be able to - this more like uni work #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:35:30 @adi_rajan I think a pre-chat listing of some basic readings - some from the ELT field as well - appropriat4e #eltchat
BobK99 2015-02-11T12:35:38 RT @adi_rajan: @Marisa_C should we defer this chat and post a pre chat glossary? #ELTchat | ...and reading list!
adi_rajan 2015-02-11T12:36:16 @NewbieCELTA i think ID provides a framework for overall course.design but it doesn't necessarily prescribe a pedagogical method. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:36:37 I would suggest we look at online design skills separately - first cover the general pedagogy issues #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2015-02-11T12:36:58 Hi peeps. Nice to chat up #eltchat
kaurgibbons 2015-02-11T12:38:04 RT @Marisa_C: RT @adi_rajan: @Marisa_C so should Ts know how to write objectives per Bloom's Taxonomy? > ELT doesn't know how to do that #e…
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:38:40 Hi Sue #eltchat - trying to narrow down the scope of this one so it can  become more doable
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:40:07 @adi_rajan No specific method no #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2015-02-11T12:40:48 Hi Marisa Mou. What do you think are the general pedagogical issues? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:40:52 However, no theory of ID in ELT can be whole without a theory of language #Eltchat
adi_rajan 2015-02-11T12:41:05 @Marisa_C General pedagogy ... That might be a good idea #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:42:42 @adi_rajan maybeby looking at different types of instructional activities & discussing values & beliefs underpinning design? #ELTchat
adi_rajan 2015-02-11T12:44:01 In ELT ID without language theory is incomplete but does it work the other way around as well? Are we missing something sans ID? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:44:59 @adi_rajan should be a complete set - Anthony & later Richards & Rogers defined the relationships #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:46:07 @adi_rajan in a sense what in ELT we call an Approach, seems very close to what they call ID on t'other side :-) #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:48:21 @BobK99 te he he - caught without having done our homework :-)  strue tho all these names can make one dizzy :-D #ELTchat
adi_rajan 2015-02-11T12:49:49 @Marisa_C I like the idea of t'other side :-) #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:50:47 @adi_rajan ... :-D well, u know how smtms same concept fancier name - like american business talk - designed to confuse and sell #ELTchat
BobK99 2015-02-11T12:51:41 Got to go, Bye #eltchat-ters
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:52:09 Shall we drop it then for today -post some of the thoughts here, some ideas for reading & redo this chat perhaps as an extra event? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:53:24 may be by invitation? #ELTchat
adi_rajan 2015-02-11T12:53:35 @Marisa_C Shall we wrap it up? Apologies for the topic! #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:54:04 No worries - it felt like a DELTA assignment proposal that was too broad :-D #eltchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:55:15 @Marisa_C shall we email some titles & links and rethink this? still trying to get the right angle into the subject here #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2015-02-11T12:57:42 Let me know #eltchat and let me know if @BobK39 @NewbieCELTA @adi_rajan @JenMac_ESL o& anyone else up for a repeat #ELTchat

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