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| ELTchat |
2015-01-28T11:52:40 |
"Is it possible to learn languages well online or is f2f essential?" - this is the topic for discussion on #ELTchat in abt 10 mins |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:00:33 |
@nelliemuller #ELTchat on with online teaching as a topic - interested in hearing your views :-) |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:03:05 |
I's #ELTchat time! |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:04:06 |
@Marisa_C I am here. Finishing off my lentil soup :) Hi Everyone!! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:04:16 |
@MarjorieRosenbe Yes it is and welocme Marjorie - our topic is online teaching - is it enough?#eltchat or f2f also needed |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:04:33 |
#eltchat hello people! |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:05:05 |
@joannacre @angelos_bollas @LizziePinard @MarjorieRosenbe hello hello long time no see Lizzie :-) #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:05:09 |
Not really my thing as I don't do any online teaching. #eltchat My students don't like it. |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:05:31 |
@Marisa_C @joannacre @angelos_bollas @MarjorieRosenbe #eltchat I know! Finally made it back into the fold!! :-D |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:05:33 |
@Marisa_C @MarjorieRosenbe Hello #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:06:05 |
Invivet @joannacre and others who do online teaching to share some of their insights #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:06:17 |
Doesn't this depend on the learners? For me, the younger the learners, the more likely it us for them to see f2f learning as alien #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:06:18 |
Sounds delicious Joanna. I just finished off the tzaziki we made at the weekend, still tasting garlic. #eltchat |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:06:36 |
#eltchat not done any online teaching myself! |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:06:41 |
@LizziePinard indeed! we'll chin u down this time :-) #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:07:05 |
@MarjorieRosenbe Do they not do some (perhaps informal) online learning - perhaps out of class #eltchat |
| rapple18 |
2015-01-28T12:07:11 |
#ELTchat hello! |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:07:22 |
@patrickelt Hey Patrick - good to have you here today #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:07:34 |
@angelos_bollas How young do you mean? My university students prefer f2f. #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:07:42 |
So, what do we mean by online teaching? #eltchat Using Skype? Using a platform? |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:08:11 |
@angelos_bollas so you think YLs won't like it so much - have an ex CELTA T who teaches YLs online and says they LOVE it!#eltchat |
| TESOLacademic |
2015-01-28T12:08:22 |
RT @Marisa_C: "Is it possible to learn languages well online or is f2f essential?" - this is the topic for discussion on #ELTchat in abt 10… |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:08:23 |
@MarjorieRosenbe fava... tsatsiki.. your diet is very Greek Marjorie #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:08:23 |
@LizziePinard Now my teaching is almost entirely online #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:08:34 |
I find webinars on teacher training to work well however. #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:08:38 |
@MarjorieRosenbe young enough to be born in the tech era (to be digital natives) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:09:05 |
@FluencyMC comparing online to f2f instruction Jason - gREEEAt to see u here - is online ENOUGH is the question #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:09:10 |
@joannacre Sometimes, I also had hummus and tabouli (Mideastern) with Austrian bread. #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:09:20 |
@joannacre Could be both or either. Email can play a big role #eltchat |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:09:37 |
@Marisa_C @angelos_bollas how does YL online work from 'classroom management’ pov? #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:09:41 |
I have been teaching BE online for 2 yrs my lnrs and I really enjoy it #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:09:55 |
@angelos_bollas This question came on FB last week - it was said that the digital natives used FB, etc. but not learning tech. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:10:24 |
@LizziePinard not sure myself - haven't done it - t says a parent supervises #eltchat in the background |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:10:27 |
@Marisa_C the other way around. I believe YLs love online learning.they are born and raised in tech era. For them, that's 'natural' #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:10:33 |
@angelos_bollas I agree with this - big problems getting mine to log in to Moodle, etc. #eltchat They use things they like, not ed things. |
| ELTwriter |
2015-01-28T12:10:58 |
@Marisa_C @FluencyMC Yes. If you offer flipped alternatives for extension. The internet can help you out there. #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:11:19 |
Haven't tried it with YLs though #eltchat |
| rapple18 |
2015-01-28T12:11:19 |
Can we list / brainstorm all the options? e.g. supposing we were only teaching =(or learnings only learning) thru online? #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:11:29 |
@joannacre And why not f2f? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:11:35 |
@ELTwriter @FluencyMC So you think a combination and JUST online aint enough? #eltchat |
| Ven_VVE |
2015-01-28T12:11:53 |
Hi #eltchat, sorry can't join in but teach writing skills 2 2nd yr undergrads in Moodle - course is whole semester. Will enjoy summary! |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:12:03 |
@MarjorieRosenbe FB can become a great learning tool #eltchat it is important for us to use the tools our learners use |
| ELTwriter |
2015-01-28T12:12:43 |
best results for OLwere self-motiovated BE pros looking for EL support weekly in their emerging needs. Worked REALLY well. #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:12:45 |
@Marisa_C @ELTwriter @FluencyMC Definitely in my case. My sts want to meet f2f. #eltchat |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:12:50 |
@angelos_bollas @MarjorieRosenbe but will ss resent ‘their’ tools being taken over by ed? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:13:05 |
@rapple18 yes this is the question - is only online enough or does it have to be supported by f2f instruction #eltchat |
| TESOLacademic |
2015-01-28T12:13:05 |
I don't think online can replace f-t-f but as an opportunity for L2 comp. input & output dig environments are brilliant #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:13:21 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @angelos_bollas A lot of students use FB for discussing academic issues but sometimes give each otrher bad advice #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:13:26 |
@LizziePinard @angelos_bollas Could be - see Bethany Cagnol's posts this week on FB. #eltchat |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:14:00 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @angelos_bollas #eltchat have u got links? |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:14:00 |
@MarjorieRosenbe causecan't find ppl interestd in BE where I am. 4 teacher the net is where you find sts. Not limited by location #eltchat |
| rapple18 |
2015-01-28T12:14:06 |
Which skills (L, Sp, R, Wr) can be covered (easily) online, + which lang systems (Vocab, Grammar, Functions, Pron)? Which less so? #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:14:07 |
If I give them a link to watch, is that teaching online? #eltchat |
| ELTwriter |
2015-01-28T12:14:12 |
But what about Mitra's SOLEs. Online enough? ;) #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:14:21 |
@angelos_bollas @MarjorieRosenbe I agree that it can help with learning but perhaps students need a private place #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:14:30 |
@TESOLacademic what if there is no other option BUT online instruction? Can it be done`? this is the topic #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:14:32 |
@patrickelt @MarjorieRosenbe same is true foe f2f settings, though #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:14:59 |
@joannacre That makes sense. I still have enough f2f. Very Austrian, we drink coffee in the lessons. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:15:19 |
RT @FluencyMC: important distnction between ftf and in person. Online w/o ftf, not good; w/o in person, fine #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:15:22 |
@patrickelt @MarjorieRosenbe t can offer private online tutorials with each ss on a regular basis #ELTchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:15:28 |
@TESOLacademic Online often does replace f-t-f as with OU courses that are entirely online #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:15:36 |
@TESOLacademic it can't replace f2f but sometimes more convenient. Take my BE sts. They just press a link and the lesson starts! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:15:41 |
remember to add the hashtag #ELTchat |
| ELTwriter |
2015-01-28T12:16:05 |
@Marisa_C @TESOLacademic Yes. With the right type of motivated learner. Interested to hear WHY NOT? #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:16:07 |
@Marisa_C @TESOLacademic I think it can be done but students need to be focused #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:16:11 |
@MarjorieRosenbe I do too, but i get to wear pjs as well : P #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:16:50 |
@angelos_bollas @MarjorieRosenbe Yes, this can be very important #eltchat |
| TESOLacademic |
2015-01-28T12:16:57 |
@Marisa_C: @TESOLacademic what if no other option BUT online instruction? Can it be done`? #eltchat Yes, under certain conditions |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:17:03 |
@patrickelt gd point - pjs often mentioned but concentration demanding online no? #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:17:12 |
Group lessons online are harder than 1 2 1. So I prefer online 1 2 1 lessons #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:18:17 |
@joannacre interesting - so group lessons more demanding online? #eltchat or less effective? |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:18:26 |
@Marisa_C many great platforms out there. With Adobe connect for instance, I don't feel that I miss f2f classroom @TESOLacademic #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:18:56 |
@Marisa_C @patrickelt yeah there are distractions online but how many sts turn off their phones when having f2f lessons? #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:19:18 |
@LizziePinard @angelos_bollas Sorry, can't find it on Bethany's FB page. Long discussion about this. #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:19:38 |
@Marisa_C Yes. Online tutorials often very demanding Elluminate needs speaking, written chat, and writing on board at same time #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:19:52 |
@Marisa_C well instead of one st trying to connect imagine 3 and turn taking is hard cause u can't see eachother #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:19:54 |
@joannacre @Marisa_C @patrickelt Mine do. #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:20:10 |
@joannacre distractions according to our generation. For them, that's multitasking #eltchat @Marisa_C @patrickelt |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:20:21 |
@angelos_bollas Fully agree that the platform makes ALL The difference #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:20:51 |
RT @Marisa_C: @angelos_bollas Fully agree that the platform makes ALL The difference #eltchat |
| TESOLacademic |
2015-01-28T12:21:03 |
The conditions would need to include meaningful L2 use beyond explicit instruction #eltchat I.e soc media not just drill & kill programmes |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:21:12 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C @TESOLacademic Agree but really hard work for teachers #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:21:12 |
Unfortunately have to leave as I have a deadline with some work. Will take a look at the summary. #eltchat |
| iPrOud82 |
2015-01-28T12:21:20 |
Hello, long time since I chatted with you, nice topic you're talking about and I'm going to share my ideas and opinions as arab et #ELTchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:21:23 |
The biggest challenge is technology failure . it affects charging lnrs, time management, it causes frustration #eltchat |
| rapple18 |
2015-01-28T12:21:58 |
Can anyone list platform options, .. e.g. Adobe connect (is this open to all and every1?) Others? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:22:05 |
RT @joannacre: The biggest challenge is technology failure . it affects charging lnrs, time management, it causes frustration #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:22:06 |
@ESLbrain @Marisa_C @FluencyMC Have to disagree with this - I have more than enough work and it is all f2f. #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:22:18 |
@patrickelt is it? I think it is different skills not harder job @Marisa_C @TESOLacademic #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:22:23 |
@joannacre you need a plan B always #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:23:11 |
@joannacre Agree with that. Had some frustrating times with students and myself being thrown out of room #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:23:15 |
@ESLbrain Hey Sylvia!!! Lovely to see you!!! #ELTchat - u work online exclusively right? |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:23:18 |
I am driving and learning through discussing w/ you #eltchat as we speak. Imagine what ss can do and how much they can learn. |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:23:18 |
@Marisa_C yeap always a plan B. And a plan C as well #eltchat |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:23:26 |
#eltchat disadv: relies on decent internet connection! |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:23:31 |
RT @Marisa_C: @joannacre you need a plan B always #eltchat |
| Tom_IHBCN |
2015-01-28T12:24:01 |
Teaching online #eltchat ? GREAT book of ideas by Nicky Hockly @TheConsultantsE http://t.co/7YlE6qc3WO |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:24:04 |
and always turn on cameras-makes lnrs feel like your there. Not just a voice #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:24:10 |
I think I am the old-fashioned type of teacher but use computer for all sorts of other things in teaching. #eltchat |
| FluencyMC |
2015-01-28T12:24:19 |
Bad teacher or poor/no access to a good one vs. good teacher online? For many students: no comparison #eltchat |
| iPrOud82 |
2015-01-28T12:24:30 |
Online teaching and learning English or any language can't be useful as f2f because interactions and practicing L2 are limited #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2015-01-28T12:24:44 |
Have also started learning a language myself, tried on line but was :-( now with teacher it's great. #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:25:05 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C @TESOLacademic Often have to speak and look at messages and operate white board at the same time #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:25:12 |
@LizziePinard yeap! That's one of the most important things! #Eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:25:17 |
@MarjorieRosenbe you are certainly not a novice re technology! #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:25:42 |
@joannacre I have created a list of tasks - if system fails, I send one of the tasks to the ss to keep them occupied @Marisa_C #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:25:47 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C @TESOLacademic Have blogged on it at http://t.co/9ZV8cmVMdH #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:25:56 |
RT @joannacre: and always turn on cameras-makes lnrs feel like your there. Not just a voice #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:26:10 |
RT @FluencyMC: @MarjorieRosenbe @ESLbrain @Marisa_C for me it's more about where things are heading... #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:27:08 |
@iPrOud82 Depends what the aim is. Students can work in breakout rooms. Can work on academic skills together #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:27:21 |
Another benefit-lesson recordings! Sts see their progress compared to begin/listen to lesson again #eltchat |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:27:26 |
#eltchat how do ss get on with grip/pair work? do they like it? does it work? |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:27:48 |
@LizziePinard Yes and for the platform to be reliable #eltchat |
| rapple18 |
2015-01-28T12:28:28 |
@patrickelt @iPrOud82 #ELTchat what platform do you use, @PatrickAndrews ? |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:29:03 |
@FluencyMC you need to add the hashtag #ELTchat Jase!!! :-D |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:29:17 |
@ESLbrain @joannacre @Marisa_C Agree with that #eltchat |
| ESLbrain |
2015-01-28T12:29:29 |
RT @Marisa_C: @ESLbrain Hey Sylvia!!! Lovely to see you!!! #ELTchat - u work online exclusively right? |
| rapple18 |
2015-01-28T12:29:38 |
Heard recently of a system where U drag-drop sts into breakout prs/grps, + join in any when U want. U can mute them, or U, or .. #ELTchat |
| FluencyMC |
2015-01-28T12:29:53 |
@ESLbrain @Marisa_C I've never met Sylvia in person but I'm quite sure I've met her f2f. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:29:58 |
@LizziePinard I don't have experience of lang classes but pair/groupwork in breakout rooms works really well Ss love it #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:30:18 |
RT @patrickelt: @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C @TESOLacademic Have blogged on it at http://t.co/9ZV8cmVMdH #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:30:23 |
@rapple18 @iPrOud82 @PatrickAndrews Have used Elluminate, OU Live, Adobe Connect, Flash meetings, Second Life #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:30:50 |
@patrickelt which one(s) do u prefer? #eltchat |
| iPrOud82 |
2015-01-28T12:30:52 |
@patrickelt it's when we talk about adult student not young learners, agree? #ELTchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:30:53 |
@iPrOud82 interaction can be limited/ practice tho is not. We get to watch videos and use all the online tools!! #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:31:05 |
@rapple18 Yes OU Live and Elluminate at least do that #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:31:20 |
@iPrOud82 not only adults #eltchat |
| ESLbrain |
2015-01-28T12:31:55 |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @ESLbrain @Marisa_C @FluencyMC Have to disagree with this - I have more than enough work and it is all f2f. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:32:03 |
@maireinhardt it's true that technigues u use online need full rethinking #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:32:20 |
RT @ESLbrain: @Marisa_C Well, I have a handful of local kids every Saturday - but it's 80% online. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:32:32 |
RT @ESLbrain: @Marisa_C There's a lot to consider - for me it started as a lifestyle choice - Mompreneur;) #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:32:40 |
@Marisa_C Not sure there is one that is clearly best. Second Life is very different. Others seem quite similar #eltchat |
| FluencyMC |
2015-01-28T12:32:44 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @ESLbrain @Marisa_C I went online because there was too much in person work, not the other way around. #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:32:58 |
@Marisa_C ...but I am not an expert for comparing #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:33:28 |
please remember to use the #ELTchat hashtag we re missing a LOT of good tweets |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:34:14 |
IMO, I think that considering F2F as not online means sth about the way we view online teaching #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:34:21 |
@iPrOud82 I do not quite understand the question. What is "it's" referring to? #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:35:18 |
@FluencyMC @MarjorieRosenbe @ESLbrain @Marisa_C An important motive is to help diverse students #eltchat |
| StartlingtheDay |
2015-01-28T12:35:31 |
Bah I have to get in my car to go to school. I wish I could do #ELTchat live today with that topic! Cc @VIFLearn @EmilyLiebtag |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:35:50 |
@FluencyMC @MarjorieRosenbe @ESLbrain @Marisa_C Many people simply cannot attend face to face or it is difficult #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:35:59 |
@angelos_bollas well yeah if you turn on the camera it's f2f. In fact doesn't get more "facer' than that! #eltchat |
| fernandonaranjo |
2015-01-28T12:36:02 |
What is the best way to exploit authentic materials? (#ELTchat summary) | @scoopit http://t.co/DwFkgMqKFU |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:36:16 |
Is it possible to learn languages well online or is f2f essential?this is Q posed #eltchat |
| Charmian676 |
2015-01-28T12:36:17 |
@Marisa_C @ESLbrain Hi Marisa, hi all. After a 2 year stint teaching online, I must say I'm happy to be back in the classroom #eltchat |
| iPrOud82 |
2015-01-28T12:36:26 |
Online methods can be used for advanced learners not beginners or young learners, it can help even teachers but not all learners #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:36:59 |
@Charmian676 oh great to see you - got my message there? Can you say sth abt this? #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:37:19 |
@joannacre Exactly - it seems to me that it is us who differentiate between the two, not learners. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:37:25 |
@Charmian676 Is it because you missed the f2f contact with students? #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:37:34 |
@joannacre @angelos_bollas Yes but .... not really the same is it? Less movement than in face to face #eltchat |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:37:39 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat what is a break out room? |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:37:57 |
RT @angelos_bollas: IMO, I think that considering F2F as not online means sth about the way we view online teaching #eltchat |
| rapple18 |
2015-01-28T12:38:05 |
@Charmian676 @Marisa_C @ESLbrain Interesting - why? what did you miss? what couldnt you do (sorry to be negative..!) Better F2F?#eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:38:31 |
@Marisa_C In platforms that don’t support breakout rules, we can assign SS pair work and they will find their way @LizziePinard #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-01-28T12:38:32 |
Hi everyone. Just in time for the end, as usual on the lunchtime chat #eltchat |
| Larryferlazzo |
2015-01-28T12:38:51 |
RT @ann_f: What is the best way to exploit authentic materials? (#ELTchat summary) | @scoopit http://t.co/yGVD5CIF4k |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:39:01 |
@LizziePinard @Marisa_C You can put students into groups where they just hear and can speak to a few others so it is group work #eltchat |
| Charmian676 |
2015-01-28T12:39:05 |
@Marisa_C It was an interesting experience and learning curve for me #eltchat |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:39:14 |
#eltchat i guess u lose activities like running dictations and the like, but gain others? How do you manage pace? |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:39:15 |
@patrickelt So, more concentration, right? @joannacre #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:39:17 |
@patrickelt @angelos_bollas well, yeah!! Can't use gestures. I show my lnrs stuff on the camera tho! and we use google pics alot. #eltchat |
| iPrOud82 |
2015-01-28T12:39:18 |
@patrickelt i meant online methods of teaching and learning, we can't expect young learners to use them professionally #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:39:27 |
@LizziePinard in an online VLE you can send Ss grouped or paired into separate online 'rooms' where they can talk #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:40:13 |
@angelos_bollas @joannacre Yes. #eltchat |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:40:23 |
RT @Marisa_C: @LizziePinard in an online VLE you can send Ss grouped or paired into separate online 'rooms' where they can talk #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:40:30 |
@angelos_bollas can use skype or other messnger in that case #eltchat |
| Charmian676 |
2015-01-28T12:40:39 |
@Marisa_C I missed the 'real' contact and I found too much was physically demanding #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:40:39 |
I love it!! My lnrs are in Germany and I am in Crete!! So, great to interact with them. Couldn't do that without online teaching #eltchat |
| pattysalguero11 |
2015-01-28T12:40:59 |
@Marisa_C Interaction f2f is so important, but we do keep realistic that technology and busy lives make teaching online vital #ELTchat |
| FluencyMC |
2015-01-28T12:41:03 |
RT @patrickelt: @FluencyMC @MarjorieRosenbe @ESLbrain @Marisa_C An important motive is to help diverse students #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:41:05 |
Also, the internet is packed with English. Just by finding their way around a platform/software, they improve #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:41:05 |
@iPrOud82 Think it depends. Perhaps more likely to be blended - depends also on how young #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-01-28T12:41:29 |
What about pronunciation? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:41:41 |
@LizziePinard the physical aspect - kinaesthetic activities, yeah that goes missing #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:42:03 |
@joannacre Yes. I have some students who are a few miles away and others on other side of world #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:42:10 |
@Marisa_C 2 of my Greek online SS used messenger, next time they met in person, and last week they did their own google hangout. #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:42:40 |
@SueAnnan send links of dictionary sound or stick face in front of webcam #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:42:41 |
@maireinhardt as @Charmian676 says it can be mroe demanding at times but once u get used to it no problem #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:42:49 |
@Marisa_C I guess kinaisthetic will get another meaning in the years to come, though @LizziePinard #eltchat |
| rapple18 |
2015-01-28T12:43:08 |
.@angelos_bollas Also, internet packed w/ English. Just by finding their way around a platform/software, they improve #eltchat Absolutely! |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:44:01 |
@SueAnnan online tools help both SS and T - there are some of us who can’t model correctly always- online tools, great solution. #eltchat |
| Charmian676 |
2015-01-28T12:44:18 |
@Marisa_C @maireinhardt Well, I gave it two years :) #eltchat |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:44:38 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C so what tricks do t's use to manage pace online minus kinasthetic stirrers? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:44:42 |
@Marisa_C @FluencyMC rather than amount of work I meant integration of multi-media and social learning within classrooms #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:44:49 |
when you teach online the net can be yur course book. You send links. Everything is just a 'click' away #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:45:47 |
@LizziePinard SS are usually more concentrated when online (and more motivated) - no real need for kinaesthetic tasks @Marisa_C #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:45:57 |
I think that overall, teaching with tech, online collaboration & interaction become SOOO much easier teaching online #eltchat @urfingrtips |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:46:53 |
@LizziePinard Sending SS to participate in an online twitter discussion (that requires full attention) is an equivalent @Marisa_C #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:47:13 |
@LizziePinard @angelos_bollas I think kinaesth importnt & CAN be done in some way - but frequent use of text chat is needed #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:47:25 |
RT @joannacre: when you teach online the net can be yur course book. You send links. Everything is just a 'click' away #eltchat> yes!!!! |
| rapple18 |
2015-01-28T12:48:17 |
@angelos_bollas @LizziePinard @Marisa_C so lesson planning becomes a whole new game! #ELTchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:48:38 |
RT @rapple18: @angelos_bollas @LizziePinard @Marisa_C so lesson planning becomes a whole new game! #ELTchat>true! |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:48:57 |
I sometimes use google images with card to move around for matching or sketching @angelos_bollas @LizziePinard #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:49:35 |
@rapple18 yes lesson planning needs LOTS of rethinking - eg how u present/check/brainstorm new ballgame! #eltchat |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:49:39 |
@rapple18 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C i was just wondering about the planning aspect! Harder, easier or just different? #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:49:48 |
@Marisa_C Do you send them on the web to search for proper images? @LizziePinard #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:50:27 |
@LizziePinard I think easier - all the alternatives are on your fingertips. #eltchat @rapple18 @Marisa_C |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:50:41 |
@Marisa_C @rapple18 Can use textchat or writing on the whiteboard #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:50:42 |
@LizziePinard never done running dictation in my life. Pace same as when u teach f2f minus tech failure #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:50:48 |
@LizziePinard harder if tech alien to u #eltchat - if comfortble with it solutions for everything are possible #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
2015-01-28T12:51:13 |
@angelos_bollas #eltchat well I wdn't be doing that, since I can't actually manage it myself LOL |
| rapple18 |
2015-01-28T12:51:17 |
@LizziePinard (nightmare, me thinks!) #ELTchat |
| iPrOud82 |
2015-01-28T12:51:27 |
@joannacre true! But find it difficult for young learners though they are so smart in using technology these days #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:51:29 |
@LizziePinard @rapple18 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C I would think it is quite similar #eltchat |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:51:34 |
RT @Marisa_C: @LizziePinard harder if tech alien to u #eltchat - if comfortble with it solutions for everything are possible #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:51:40 |
@patrickelt @Marisa_C @rapple18 also use screen shots of the things they wanna keep! #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:51:45 |
@eannegrenoble it is a matter of habit, methinks. The more you do it, the better you become - #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:51:53 |
@LizziePinard @rapple18 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C Also need to react to who is there and what emerges as an issue #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-01-28T12:52:05 |
Online isn't comfortable for everyone #eltchat |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:52:25 |
RT @patrickelt: @LizziePinard @rapple18 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C Also need to react to who is there and what emerges as an issue #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:52:33 |
@angelos_bollas @LizziePinard sometimes yes - web searches very common - also use google docs a lot and onine type pads #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:53:02 |
@joannacre @Marisa_C @rapple18 Yes and can come back if session recorded #eltchat |
| iPrOud82 |
2015-01-28T12:53:09 |
"@SueAnnan: Online isn't comfortable for everyone #eltchat" agree |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:53:16 |
@Marisa_C I really like these - used them with you and found them very useful @LizziePinard #eltchat |
| rapple18 |
2015-01-28T12:54:07 |
.. re responding to sts / needs etc @patrickelt @LizziePinard @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C I can do that bit - as in any classoom! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:54:07 |
http://t.co/9om5HcUKAC is also great - each person's writing a diff shade ss can do collaborative writing #eltchat |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:54:12 |
@SueAnnan #eltchat i imagine ppl get used to it after a while like getting used to doing online workshops for T's? But not every1 as u say. |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:54:15 |
@iPrOud82 Teachers MUST adapt, though @SueAnnan #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:54:32 |
@patrickelt @Marisa_C @rapple18 exactly. One of my lrns listened to 1st session and finalses. She was so happy with her progress #eltchat |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:54:52 |
@Marisa_C @angelos_bollas online type pads? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:55:10 |
@joannacre recordings such a nice way for Ss to assess own progress #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:55:29 |
RT @joannacre: exactly. One of my lrns listened to 1st session and finalses. She was so happy with her progress #eltchat>parents, too |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:55:34 |
@LizziePinard @angelos_bollas http://t.co/9om5HcUKAC #eltchat try this one with a friend |
| rapple18 |
2015-01-28T12:56:13 |
Feeling a bit at sea. Thinking abt m-learning course: http://t.co/Fk8XpHgdCV & reading NickyHockley's Tg Online! #ELTchat @Tom_IHBCN #adapt |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T12:56:29 |
@Marisa_C so it can be used as a great reflective tool as well!! #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:56:29 |
@LizziePinard Blackboard offers type pad tools, too @Marisa_C #eltchat |
| tatyanawilson8 |
2015-01-28T12:56:42 |
RT @Marisa_C: please remember to use the #ELTchat hashtag we re missing a LOT of good tweets |
| Charmian676 |
2015-01-28T12:56:44 |
@SueAnnan You're right. At first I felt awkward but I got used to it after a while #eltchat |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T12:56:57 |
RT @rapple18: Feeling a bit at sea. Thinking abt m-learning course: http://t.co/Fk8XpHgdCV & reading NickyHockley's Tg Online! #ELTchat @To… |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:57:18 |
Discussion boards can become great source of interaction and learning, if monitored properly, too #eltchat |
| iPrOud82 |
2015-01-28T12:57:57 |
@angelos_bollas @SueAnnan I know but it's important to achieve my aim not stick to the method #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-01-28T12:58:10 |
Getting to the time when we beg someone to write the summary. Please,,,,,,,,I can send the transcript in a couple of hours. #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:58:30 |
@iPrOud82 I don’t think it is the method - it is the reality of our SS @SueAnnan #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:58:30 |
@angelos_bollas u mean within the vle?#eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2015-01-28T12:58:43 |
@angelos_bollas Yes, agree with that. Can be used for collaborative tasks as well, discussion of process #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:59:12 |
@Marisa_C Yes - The premium version of Bb, offers type pads that are autosaved online #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
2015-01-28T12:59:29 |
#eltchat - laughing at myself - new installation, automatic tag not installed, I've been speaking to myself |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T12:59:29 |
OK good folks - can'[t remember who asked this question to put on the spot for the summary so am in trouble #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T12:59:48 |
@SueAnnan May I? #eltchat |
| iPrOud82 |
2015-01-28T12:59:53 |
"@angelos_bollas: @iPrOud82 I don’t think it is the method - it is the reality of our SS @SueAnnan #eltchat" yes yes yes |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T13:00:12 |
Who would like to put order into this stream of ideas? #eltchat and write a great summary? |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T13:00:35 |
@Marisa_C I’ll do that one, if that’s ok! #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T13:00:36 |
I can do it #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T13:00:39 |
@angelos_bollas that sounds cool tho don't like blackbroard all that much meself :-) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-01-28T13:01:03 |
Angeles has offered to write summary. Thank you. You are a star #Eltchat @Marisa_C |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T13:01:32 |
@joannacre perfect #eltchat we got a summary writer @SueAnnan yay |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T13:01:41 |
@Marisa_C Same here-Am using it for my MA, though, and it seems to be quite nice for that - definitely not for lang teaching, tho. #eltchat |
| rapple18 |
2015-01-28T13:02:28 |
.@angelos_bollas will look forward to it! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T13:02:50 |
@joannacre @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan I guess Angelos wins was first - whyn't u do a collaborative one on google docs? #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T13:02:50 |
haha two summary writers. If Angelos wants to do it's fine with me :) #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T13:03:56 |
@Marisa_C Yeyyyy! Sounds great. (And faithful to the topic of the chat!) @joannacre @SueAnnan #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T13:04:12 |
Anyways, thank you all for joining us and ESPECIALLY those of you who teach online and answered my call! :-D #ELTchat u're great! |
| SueAnnan |
2015-01-28T13:04:40 |
Okay. I'll send the transcript to Angelos when I finish teaching. Will be in a couple of hours #eltchat |
| rapple18 |
2015-01-28T13:04:48 |
many thanks all ... lotsa food for thought ... the more you find out, the more you realise .. you haven't a clue! #ELTchat #onlinelearning |
| eannegrenoble |
2015-01-28T13:04:53 |
@Marisa_C @joannacre @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan Is it something about the early chat that has this effect? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T13:05:05 |
@angelos_bollas @joannacre @SueAnnan we've had ppl do collaborative summaries in the past :-) #eltchat |
| TeachersFirst |
2015-01-28T13:05:17 |
CurriConnects – book list Inventors and Inventions - #sschat #scichat #educhat #elemchat, #mscha, #eltchat, #teachers http://t.co/XpBfOEjNks |
| angelos_bollas |
2015-01-28T13:05:32 |
@Marisa_C <3 @joannacre @SueAnnan #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T13:05:42 |
@eannegrenoble @joannacre @angelos_bollas @SueAnnan Lol I don't know :-D u did one i think no? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2015-01-28T13:06:26 |
@Marisa_C @eannegrenoble @joannacre @angelos_bollas plenty more needing summaries too #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2015-01-28T13:06:52 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C @SueAnnan collaboration it is then!! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2015-01-28T13:08:20 |
OK cheers everyone - we have a summary dream team here @joannacre @SueAnnan @angelos_bollas #eltchat see u all next week !!!! |
| LizziePinard |
2015-01-28T13:08:42 |
Thanks all, learnt a lot today! Hope next time round isn't so far off as it was last time! Sorry if repeat, storm cut th connection!#eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
2015-01-28T13:13:47 |
@Marisa_C Came 2 Twitter to tell you I was coming to TESOL Greece, and found myself in the middle of #ELTchat . Fate at work indeed :-) |
| mariacolussa |
2015-01-28T13:25:20 |
RT @rapple18: many thanks all ... lotsa food for thought ... the more you find out, the more you realise .. you haven't a clue! #ELTchat #… |
| mariacolussa |
2015-01-28T13:38:45 |
@angelos_bollas @LizziePinard @Marisa_C #eltchat interesting! |
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