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Teaching spoken grammar

Page history last edited by sue annan 9 years, 4 months ago
annabooklover 2014-11-19T21:03:16 RT @Marisa_C: RT @ELTchat: "Benefits and ways of teaching spoken grammar" - our topic for #ELTchat in 20 mins - Some useful links http://t.…
annabooklover 2014-11-19T21:03:59 Hello from Brussels #eltchat It's been some time but here I am!
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-11-19T21:04:13 Hi everyone. #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:04:26 @annabooklover Evening Anna and Marjorie #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:04:53 RT @SueAnnan: @annabooklover Evening Anna and Marjorie #eltchat
NewbieCELTA 2014-11-19T21:05:14 Is #ELTchat happening NOW?
HanaTicha 2014-11-19T21:05:22 Evening #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:05:31 @NewbieCELTA Yes #ELTchat welcome
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-11-19T21:05:33 What's the topic? #eltchat
NewbieCELTA 2014-11-19T21:05:45 What's the topic? (I'm so busy overbusy to keep track!) #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:06:04 @MarjorieRosenbe benefits and ways of spoken grammar #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:07:12 what is meant by spoken grammar? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:07:30 So how is spoken grammar different from the grammar of written language? #eltchat
annabooklover 2014-11-19T21:07:40 @Marisa_C But I think a lot of the #eltchat team and it's always a valuable resource of knowledge
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:08:23 @Marisa_C I suppose there are more short forms, connected speech issues etc #eltchat
annabooklover 2014-11-19T21:08:34 Is English different when spoken and written? And what should teachers do about it? this is the topic of #eltchat tonight. Join us!
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:09:21 RT @SueAnnan: @Marisa_C I suppose there are more short forms, connected speech issues etc #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:09:30 MY Portugueses sts have difficulty with spoken grammar. They don't hear the aux verbs- so leave them out #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:09:32 Hello all. Don't know if I'll stay full hour cos am pretty tired #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:09:57 RT @SueAnnan: @Marisa_C I suppose there are more short forms, connected speech issues etc #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:10:17 @Marisa_C the prescriptive grammar rules are broken when we actually speak #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:10:18 @KateLloyd05 Hey Kate welcome #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:10:34 RT @KateLloyd05: @Marisa_C the prescriptive grammar rules are broken when we actually speak #eltchat  an example?
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:11:42 @Marisa_C I'm loving this meal #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:12:02 @Marisa_C there's some really great bars in this city #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:12:33 @Marisa_C there are less people here than normal #eltchat
NewbieCELTA 2014-11-19T21:13:06 @SueAnnan so is much of that learning written grammar forms w/out reference to spoken forms #eltchat so...should they always b layered?
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:13:22 @KateLloyd05 Do coursebooks include examples of spoken forms like ur examples or have they been "cleaned out"? #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:14:19 You would have to have access to authentic listening tasks for comparison. Would it actually help the sts? #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:14:42 @Marisa_C depends on the course book probably #eltchat
LaraCvanti 2014-11-19T21:14:51 maybe coursebooks designed for teens include examples, most are cleaned out though #eltchat
NewbieCELTA 2014-11-19T21:14:58 @SueAnnan my basic answer to that is YES #eltchat I see the spoken forms as a critical element of 'covering' grammar points fully
Miss_Iryna 2014-11-19T21:14:59 RT @Marisa_C: RT @ELTchat: "Benefits and ways of teaching spoken grammar" - our topic for #ELTchat in 20 mins - Some useful links http://t.…
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:15:44 @SueAnnan think authentic listening helps them. Good to show how people really speak #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:15:49 RT @NewbieCELTA: @SueAnnan my basic answer to that is YES #eltchat I see the spoken forms as a critical element of 'covering' grammar point…
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:15:56 I think the teacher using natural language in/ out of class with sts, is important #eltchat
eltconnect 2014-11-19T21:15:57 Hi everyone #eltchat great topic :-)
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:16:02 RT @SueAnnan: I think the teacher using natural language in/ out of class with sts, is important #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:16:13 @eltconnect Welcome #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:16:20 Should we differentiate between receptive and productive lang at least for lower levels? #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:16:29 RT @SueAnnan: I think the teacher using natural language in/ out of class with sts, is important #eltchat
JordiMarinBa 2014-11-19T21:16:35 RT @SueAnnan: I think the teacher using natural language in/ out of class with sts, is important #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:16:49 @eltconnect @LaraCvanti great to have you join #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:17:15 RT @SueAnnan: I think the teacher using natural language in/ out of class with sts, is important #eltchat  very true
annabooklover 2014-11-19T21:17:37 Do learners want to learn this Spoken Grammar? Adult learners learning for work are very anxious to speak the "right" English #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:17:54 @Marisa_C my lower levels make themselves understood, while butchering the language. There has to be clear rules at some point. #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:18:34 @annabooklover but isnt that an example of right english? rather then cbk english  #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:19:20 @annabooklover how about if we teach the 'right English' while explaining that spoken and written lang varies? #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:19:29 @annabooklover Isnt this the fault of CBks and syllabuses that do not cover spoken English? #eltchat - Ss always have own beliefs true
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-11-19T21:19:47 Do we have a definition of spoken vs. written grammar? #eltchat
annabooklover 2014-11-19T21:19:51 @Shaunwilden As a teacher I totally agree with you. But not sure learners see it this way #eltchat
eltconnect 2014-11-19T21:20:29 @SueAnnan @Marisa_C I guess butchering the language is all part of the experimental process. If they are speaking ... Butcher away #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:20:36 CB english can be very stilted and artificial #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:20:57 @annabooklover true, isnt this where the teacher comes in and helps them see y? #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-11-19T21:21:05 @Marisa_C just what I asked. But contractions would be a major difference.  #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:21:13 @annabooklover Ss also believe it's our job to give out  rules, translate, etc - learner briefing & training seem important here #ELTchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:22:26 RT @Marisa_C: @annabooklover Ss also believe it's our job to give out  rules, translate, etc - learner briefing & training seem important h…
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:22:49 @Marisa_C @annabooklover they usually notice differences themselves, especially on tv, and ask #eltchat
eltconnect 2014-11-19T21:22:49 “@Shaunwilden: @annabooklover true, isnt this where the teacher comes in and helps them see y? #eltchat” absolutely,!
annabooklover 2014-11-19T21:23:45 My personal belief in life (and teaching) is that it's good to learn some rules in order to be able to break them later :) #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-11-19T21:24:21 I would think that even NS use different grammar while speaking than in writing. #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:24:29 I think spoken grammar taught through text is a contradiction; if using spoken samples, some features shd be included #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:24:48 MOst exams have a speaking element- we help our students if they can sound natural #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:24:56 RT @SueAnnan: MOst exams have a speaking element- we help our students if they can sound natural #eltchat
eltconnect 2014-11-19T21:25:10 @KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C @annabooklover .Ss bring local dialect into the classroom & wonder why u explained a different rule yest. #eltchat
LaraCvanti 2014-11-19T21:25:30 #eltchat I think sts believe that spoken English is the oralization of what's in the coursebook.
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:25:37 @Marisa_C I agree #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:25:45 But a lot of lang taught situationally, ok, but not in a real context of use #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:25:45 RT @Marisa_C: I think spoken grammar taught through text is a contradiction; if using spoken samples, some features shd be included #eltchat
fionaljp 2014-11-19T21:26:21 @annabooklover I agree #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-11-19T21:26:25 @SueAnnan and things like turntaking and incomplete sentences don't come up in formal writing. #eltchat
LaraCvanti 2014-11-19T21:26:34 @Marisa_C  #eltchat otherwise is not spoken is oralized text - there's a difference (agreed!)
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:26:36 @LaraCvanti very true #eltchat may be time to tell them Santa Claus does not come down the chimney really
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:26:39 “@LaraCvanti: #eltchat I think sts believe that spoken English is the oralization of what's in the coursebook.” Yes. Sometimes.
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:27:07 @Marisa_C @LaraCvanti What, you’re kidding me, of course he does!! #eltchat
LaraCvanti 2014-11-19T21:27:08 @KateLloyd05 if they have access to it, some sts have zero contact with the foreign language #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:27:08 RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @SueAnnan and things like turntaking and incomplete sentences don't come up in formal writing. #eltchat > improtant yes
fionaljp 2014-11-19T21:27:08 Hello, very interesting topic! #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:27:23 RT @Marisa_C: @LaraCvanti very true #eltchat may be time to tell them Santa Claus does not come down the chimney really
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:27:43 @Shaunwilden oh i forgot about u and the cookies and millk :-D #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:27:47 @LaraCvanti @KateLloyd05 but less so today with the prevalence of the internet #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:27:59 @LaraCvanti YouTube is reducing this though #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:28:13 @Marisa_C carrot and milk, rudolph needs something as well you know! #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:28:15 RT @KateLloyd05: @LaraCvanti YouTube is reducing this though #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:28:42 @Shaunwilden Tehehe #eltchat leave Rudolf alone
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-11-19T21:29:15 @fionaljp hi Fiona #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:29:29 It seems to  me that function and context of use are vital as well as authentic samples of talk - but not right from the beginning #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:29:30 do you think teaching both spoken and written forms at the same time is wise? #eltchat
eltconnect 2014-11-19T21:29:33 @KateLloyd05 @LaraCvanti they now have more access than ever #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:29:45 @LaraCvanti @KateLloyd05 True but as a teacher its easier to bring real english into the classroom #eltchat
LaraCvanti 2014-11-19T21:30:07 @Marisa_C so important! and culturally affected #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-11-19T21:30:58 @KateLloyd05 @LaraCvanti Not sure if sts see this. I think we are more forgiving of mistakes in speech than in writing.  #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:31:26 I think that real English can be very confusing for the beginner who needs tidiness and order - chaos can be brought in later #ELTchat
LaraCvanti 2014-11-19T21:31:30 @Marisa_C if you take sts' maturity and linguistic development, beginners could do it was well #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:31:33 @MarjorieRosenbe @KateLloyd05 @LaraCvanti we have a lot more clues when speaking #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:32:03 @Marisa_C Or do the tidiness and order make it harder in the long run? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:32:37 @Shaunwilden possibly - convince me - Widdowson is on my side :-D #eltchat
fionaljp 2014-11-19T21:32:41 @Marisa_C Yes, I think so too. #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-11-19T21:32:49 @KateLloyd05 @LaraCvanti Or maybe just more forgiving of laxer rules in speaking if message gets across. #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:33:17 @SueAnnan not always. can raise awareness of spok. Eng.  w/. listening, w/ speak. practise, rather than part of 'grammar' lesson. #eltchat
eltconnect 2014-11-19T21:33:49 @Marisa_C yes they need the basics before they are introduced to the exceptions, nuances, dialect..#eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-11-19T21:33:55 It's interesting to look at languages with regional dialects where written language is standard. #eltchat
LaraCvanti 2014-11-19T21:34:02 @Marisa_C that spoken language is chaotic and written language is organized is a myth, an old one at that #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:34:14 @Marisa_C have u never been pulled up i.e. on the use of some / any one year we teach x and rule and then the next break it #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:34:20 @KateLloyd05 think I'd rather touch on both together. Teach rule; show how to break it :-) #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:34:42 @Marisa_C thats a result of tidiness #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-11-19T21:35:08 @Marisa_C Agree. Contractions drive beginners crazy at times. #eltchat
annabooklover 2014-11-19T21:35:12 RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C have u never been pulled up i.e. on the use of some / any one year we teach x and rule and then the next break i…
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:35:12 @SueAnnan I like that idea - @Shaunwilden - yes all the time #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:35:25 RT @SueAnnan: @KateLloyd05 think I'd rather touch on both together. Teach rule; show how to break it :-) #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:36:32 @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C totally. Drives me nuts. Worse when course books invent 'rules' that they break later in series #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:36:34 @Shaunwilden That's a rather sweeping statement - interlanguage - L1 interference all and this play a part #eltchat
eltconnect 2014-11-19T21:36:47 @MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C yes, but this is what they'll hear on the street not long versions of present perfect 'I have seen...#eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:37:35 @eltconnect or conditionals or relative clauses , or or ..... #eltchat very true - so we do need to teach different grammar lessons
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:37:41 @MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C was trying to sort contraction it's and possessive Sue's, with a beginnerish class today. Chaos:-) #eltchat
Jane_Seely 2014-11-19T21:38:18 RT @KateLloyd05: @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C totally. Drives me nuts. Worse when course books invent 'rules' that they break later in series #EL…
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:38:22 my own take is show item in spoken AND written contexts - get Ss to spot how used differently #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:38:42 @Marisa_C I'm with you on that #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:39:05 @eltconnect these days they won’t even hear the present perfect made with a past participle half the time! #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:39:24 I think our main focus in this discussion is not the irrgularities of rules only but also the different forms uses in SG #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:39:37 RT @Marisa_C: I think our main focus in this discussion is not the irrgularities of rules only but also the different forms uses in SG #elt…
annabooklover 2014-11-19T21:39:49 RT @Marisa_C: my own take is show item in spoken AND written contexts - get Ss to spot how used differently #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:39:50 @Shaunwilden @eltconnect on tv often just past simple #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:40:03 ...used in #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:41:07 So a lesson with a chain of third conditionals is unrealistic - how many times do WE use them in a row? #eltchat
eltconnect 2014-11-19T21:41:58 @KateLloyd05 @Shaunwilden very true #eltchat or a combo such as 'I seen him' ...nice :-)
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:42:06 better speaking skills will help sts communicate well. We need to teach norms for both speaking and writing- they aRE different #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:42:27 My last comment should really have been a question - is it unrealistic to do some of the practices we use in lessons? #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:42:50 @Marisa_C is that an example of real use, or just a platform for students to practise the form? #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:43:00 @Marisa_C yes but exam boards still expect them :-) #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:43:20 @eltconnect @Shaunwilden is 'I did it already' right or wrong now? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:43:22 @eltconnect @KateLloyd05 @Shaunwilden but many DOSes would have a heart attach if Ts taught "I seen him" #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:43:48 @Marisa_C Doesn't that depend o the purpose, as a controlled practice  of form exercise for example #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-11-19T21:44:15 @SueAnnan Exactly. Difficult for course books to get this across.  Could be why practice sentences often sound artificial. #eltchat
NewbieCELTA 2014-11-19T21:44:17 @SueAnnan a recent 121 student said 'listening...to be able to speak better!' when asked what his focus/aims were #eltchat very insightful!
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:44:22 @KateLloyd05 practice i guess #eltchat but shouldn't practice sentences resemple real talk? Let them have written chains for that
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:44:30 @KateLloyd05 @eltconnect More something from American english, no? #eltchat
eltconnect 2014-11-19T21:44:40 “@SueAnnan: @Marisa_C yes but exam boards still expect them :-) #eltchat” yes... That's the struggle...
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:44:52 Sorry folks can't spell tonight #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:45:22 RT @NewbieCELTA: @SueAnnan a recent 121 student said 'listening...to be able to speak better!' when asked what his focus/aims were #eltchat…
eltconnect 2014-11-19T21:45:32 @KateLloyd05 @Shaunwilden good question....so many ppl are using it.... Does that make it right? #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:45:46 @Marisa_C good for practising mechanics of forms though #eltchat
NewbieCELTA 2014-11-19T21:45:48 @MarjorieRosenbe @SueAnnan which is why instruction is usually, IMO, best 'conversation-driven' a la Dogme #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:45:57 @NewbieCELTA great. I wish a few more would listen, rather than just open their mouths and see what happens :-) #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-11-19T21:46:15 This semester have an English NS in B1 English  class & I realise that she often uses different grammar than I have just taught. #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:46:16 @Shaunwilden @eltconnect yeah but American English is spreading, thanks to tv series #eltchat
annabooklover 2014-11-19T21:46:20 @Marisa_C Don't worry! We'll call it the Spoken Spelling! #eltchat
eltconnect 2014-11-19T21:46:31 @Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 @Shaunwilden absolutely, but not if it's pointed out and Ss are informed that they may come across it #eltchat
fionaljp 2014-11-19T21:46:47 Don’t you think sts know when it’s practice?  When  learning I need to practice I’m aware that it isn’t authentic conversation #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:47:08 @annabooklover :-D #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:47:29 @fionaljp Mostly... no #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:47:33 @MarjorieRosenbe in B1 level? How? #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:47:35 @eltconnect @Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 @Shaunwilden but it is dialectal. We don't hear that here #eltchat
eltconnect 2014-11-19T21:47:48 @Shaunwilden @KateLloyd05 not wrong then I guess #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-11-19T21:47:51 @Shaunwilden @KateLloyd05 @eltconnect What's from Am E? Andctrue about tv spreading it. #eltchat
eltconnect 2014-11-19T21:48:43 @SueAnnan @NewbieCELTA teachers or students? :-) #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-11-19T21:48:50 @fionaljp Depends on the type of practice I think. #eltchat
annabooklover 2014-11-19T21:48:52 RT @Marisa_C: I think that real English can be very confusing for the beginner who needs tidiness and order - chaos can be brought in later…
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:49:47 @eltconnect @NewbieCELTA LOL, I meant students- they need to learn to listen too- or they talk over each other #eltchat
eltconnect 2014-11-19T21:49:52 @fionaljp not sure they do! #eltchat
LaraCvanti 2014-11-19T21:50:19 RT @Marisa_C @fionaljp Mostly... no #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:51:58 Here are a couple of good links I collected earlier http://t.co/afu4aXLadl #eltchat
Mashfaqksa 2014-11-19T21:52:28 @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden SG? #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-11-19T21:52:30 Sorry, too late for me, I'm dropping off. Thanks for chat, I'll catch up on rest in morning. #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:52:33 @Marisa_C Thanks #eltchat
fionaljp 2014-11-19T21:52:34 @MarjorieRosenbe True. #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:53:38 To be quite honest I am not so bothered with ppl using booklish - am bothered with ppl being/sounding rude, abrupt etc - discourse? #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:54:12 RT @SueAnnan: we're running out of time. Would anyone like to volunteer to write the summary, please? #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:54:39 RT @Marisa_C: To be quite honest I am not so bothered with ppl using booklish - am bothered with ppl being/sounding rude, abrupt etc - disc…
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:54:40 Yes please write the summary somebody? #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:54:46 RT @Marisa_C: Yes please write the summary somebody? #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-11-19T21:55:21 Night all. Need to turn in. Till next week.#eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:55:26 So function, context and discourse rules needed & lang from authentic sources #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:56:04 @LaraCvanti good point #eltchat but not the only factor
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:56:10 RT @Marisa_C: So function, context and discourse rules needed & lang from authentic sources #eltchat
LaraCvanti 2014-11-19T21:56:34 @Marisa_C thank you for the material!! it's amazing!! #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:56:34 @Mashfaqksa @Shaunwilden Spoken grammar - our topic today #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:56:47 RT @LaraCvanti:  yeah but rudeness may come as a side-effect of beeing too bookish and not knowing the appropriate register #eltchat
eltconnect 2014-11-19T21:56:51 #eltchat thanks all, very interesting chat! See you again!
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:57:45 Any other resources, articles etc can be added here http://t.co/afu4aXLadl #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:58:06 RT @Marisa_C: Yes please write the summary somebody? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T21:58:16 We still need a volunteer to write up the summary of this #eltchat please come forward
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:58:27 RT @Marisa_C: We still need a volunteer to write up the summary of this #eltchat please come forward
fionaljp 2014-11-19T21:58:29 Yes, thanks -very interesting topic #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-11-19T21:58:58 night night all see you next Wednesday lunchtime #eltchat
ELTchat 2014-11-19T21:59:10 RT @Marisa_C: We still need a volunteer to write up the summary of this #eltchat please come forward
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:59:24 @Shaunwilden Bye Shaun #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-11-19T21:59:39 RT @Marisa_C: We still need a volunteer to write up the summary of this #eltchat please come forward
Marisa_C 2014-11-19T22:00:22 Good night everyone and thank you for joining us and sharing your thoughts &ideas #eltchat see u all next week - remember to suggest topcs

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