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Why are not more people engaging in MOOCs and Moodles on offer

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#ELTchat Transcript for 24/09/2014  Why are not more people engaging in MOOCs and Moodles.xlsx

 

 

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mjgsm

9/24/2014 19:59

RT @Marisa_C: Looks like most of you want to talk about how to engage more colleagues on Moodles & MOOCs & general CPD this eve #ELTchat se…

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:02

I've done 2 courses and 2 MOOCs this summer and just seen the same faces over and over #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:02

Anyone else joining us today? Roll call #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:02

@SueAnnan I tend to agree with that. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:02

RT @SueAnnan: I've done 2 courses and 2 MOOCs this summer and just seen the same faces over and over #ELTchat > "The Usual Suspects" :-D

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:02

RT @Marisa_C: Anyone else joining us today? Roll call #eltchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:03

@Marisa_C @SueAnnan @HadaLitim @ELTchat Hey all! David from Ireland tuning in to #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:03

@SueAnnan I just finished an online course with IH and not so many familiar 'faces' there. Why would you say that was? #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:03

I suppose its great that some of us are happy to do CPD- but why cant we interest fresh blood in doing the same? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:04

@edchatirl Hey David good to see you #ELTchat - let's wait for a couple of minutes may be more friends will show up

klgree

9/24/2014 20:05

Hi all, better late than never. Kathy from Bangladesh here, with spotty internet. #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:05

@MarjorieRosenbe Hi Marjorie! How to engage more colleagues on Moodles & MOOCs & general CPD #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:05

@MarjorieRosenbe Hi Marj. Why do we see the usual suspects when we do online things and not interest new peeps #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:05

@Marisa_C I am here. #eltchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:05

@MarjorieRosenbe Welcome Marjorie - you too @klgree #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:06

@klgree Hi Kathy, just in time! #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:06

@MarjorieRosenbe Presence noted and ticked :-) #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:06

RT @Marisa_C: @MarjorieRosenbe Presence noted and ticked :-) #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:07

having issues with my twitter will be with you when I can #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:07

@Hada could it be because the IH ones are expensive? #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:07

Not sure always same people. Get wide variety for iatefl webinars. #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:07

Could it have to do with learning style? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:07

So why do people register and give up - first question #ELTchat

klgree

9/24/2014 20:07

Hi all, thank you for the warm welcome. The most frequent question I'm asked when encouraging CPD is "What's the benefit for me?"#eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:08

@SueAnnan @Hada Yes, could be. And more involved too. Longer? #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:08

Hi all. First #eltchat of the season for me. May have to cut it short, Master's is taking over! Great to be here and great topic.

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:08

@Marisa_C unrealistic expectations? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:08

@klgree does this mean that benefit=money only? #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:09

@ChristineMulla Hi Christine! Great you oculd make it. Master's..wow! #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:09

@ChristineMulla Welcome and hop on! #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:09

RT @SueAnnan: @Marisa_C unrealistic expectations? #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:09

@klgree You could suggest that if the are better teachers, they will have happy students #ELTchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:09

@Marisa_C Perfect! I'm a FE teacher and passed CELTA last year at IH Dub. Use for non national students. Now MA in Teach&Learning. #eltchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:09

@SueAnnan @Marisa_C A bit I think, also think so busy stm forget. #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:09

@Marisa_C @klgree Or money = commitment #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:09

@HadaLitim good question. Not sure which style isxattracted to online courses. #eltchat maybe feel too impersonal for some learners?

klgree

9/24/2014 20:09

@Marisa_C Money and/or certificates. #eltchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:09

@Marisa_C @klgree Or recognition or sth for CV or free stuff? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:10

@MarjorieRosenbe I don't think it's totally that but I feel there may be a link there #ELTchat

klgree

9/24/2014 20:10

@SueAnnan Yes, I agree! It's not always a winning argument, but I offer it. #eltchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:10

Perhaps there is a bit of 'WEbinar Fatigue@ #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:10

Much fuss made on FB today by someone who attended a MOOC and was displaying a Certificate of Completion on their profile - #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:11

Not sure why I haven't taken part in one. Felt too much like another commitment & I have enough of those. #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:11

@klgree @Marisa_C Do you mean 'certain' certificates? As many online course and MOOCs do offer them too #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:11

RT @SueAnnan: Perhaps there is a bit of 'WEbinar Fatigue@ #ELTchat > too much choice?

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:11

RT @Marisa_C: RT @SueAnnan: Perhaps there is a bit of 'WEbinar Fatigue@ #ELTchat > too much choice?

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:11

@SueAnnan Webinar overload? #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:11

@Marisa_C yes, possibly #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:11

Hurrah finally made it #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:11

@Marisa_C didn't see this - but everything goes on fb these days #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:12

@Shaunwilden Velkommen! #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:12

@MarjorieRosenbe Well - when you do as much as you it makes sense - but you ARE engaged in online CPD thru ur role at IATEFL #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:12

@Shaunwilden welcome boss #ELTchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:12

@klgree its fantastic for keeping up to date and challenging my methods of teaching, I'd be lost without Twitter chats. Great CPD. #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:12

I think showing off your certificates on FB is a bit tacky #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:12

@Shaunwilden hi Shaun, glad you made it. #eltchat

muranava

9/24/2014 20:12

not sure it is so neg to see familiar faces in terms of trust and learning? #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:12

Sorry I'm late, forgot about it till now #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:12

@Marisa_C you looking in a mirror? #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:12

@HadaLitim @Marisa_C @klgree Think people too don't actually realise how much there is to get from online learning. #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:13

@Marisa_C was this in a positive way? #eltchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:13

@Marisa_C @SueAnnan there's loads I want to do, but so much choice that I don't know where to start #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:13

@muranava Not necessarily negative but where is everyone else learning from? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:13

@KateLloyd05 @muranava #ELTchat Welcome welcome we\re just getting warmed up here

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:13

@MarjorieRosenbe for sure! #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:13

@KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan Oo Marisa and I ddi a a talk about that once, slides must be somewhere :-) #ELTchat

Ven_VVE

9/24/2014 20:14

RT @ChristineMulla: @HadaLitim @Marisa_C @klgree Think people too don't actually realise how much there is to get from online learning. #el…

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:14

@ChristineMulla @Marisa_C @klgree Do you feel it's still a new thing? #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:14

@HadaLitim @muranava pd provided by work? #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:14

@KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan I feel that way as well - webinars at least only last 1 hour. #eltchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:14

@SueAnnan And it's not sth an employer wld look well upon, I think. That's 4 @LinkedIn & interview #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:14

@KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C good point about choice. How do you decide if it is useful or not? Maybe people sign up for wrong course #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:14

@Shaunwilden @KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan Dig'em out, please #ELTchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:14

@Marisa_C  it's because it's a competitive environment when trying to get work. Self promotion can help get a job. E.g. LinkedIn #eltchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:15

@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @SueAnnan yeah, what's the overarching message? #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:15

@HadaLitim @Marisa_C @klgree In Ireland, most definitely. Really hard to get people engaged. Mostly Irish Ts abroad at mo it seems. #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:15

@KateLloyd05 @muranava Is it the same? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:15

Problem is many employers not engaging or familiar with online CPD or Moodles or MOOCs so a bit derisive or ignorant #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:15

@ChristineMulla @Marisa_C @klgree That's interesting! #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:15

RT @Marisa_C: Problem is many employers not engaging or familiar with online CPD or Moodles or MOOCs so a bit derisive or ignorant #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:15

@Marisa_C I think that is beginning to change a bit though #ELTchat

muranava

9/24/2014 20:16

@Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 hi hi :) #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:16

@Marisa_C In some countries anything not face to face isn't recognised #ELTchat

jankenb2

9/24/2014 20:16

#ELTchat hi all. In Portland airport. What's the topic?

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:16

RT @HadaLitim: @Marisa_C In some countries anything not face to face isn't recognised #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:16

@SueAnnan @KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C Or force themselves to do it and get blinded, so don't see the full benefit? #ELTchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:16

@ChristineMulla @HadaLitim @Marisa_C @klgree lots of Irish doing TEFL but is useless in Ireland. Need CELTA for ACELS to work here #eltchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:16

@Marisa_C Mine is quite happy for me to add to my file, but not really interested in what the Cert is for... #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:17

@jankenb2 Why aren't more people involved in online PD and MOOCs. Always the same 'faces' #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:17

@HadaLitim @Marisa_C that needs to change. Initial teaching practise ok, but after that, why do u need a traditional classroom? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:17

@edchatirl @ChristineMulla @Marisa_C @klgree But what about ongoing PD? #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:17

@jankenb2 Why new faces don't engage on in MOOCS/online CPD and we see the same faces. Hi, by the way. I'm Christine :-) #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:18

@jankenb2 Hi Jenny. NIce to see you here #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:18

@KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C Absolutely, there's so much to gain in development #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:18

@edchatirl @ChristineMulla @HadaLitim @Marisa_C @klgree tefl from who? #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:18

@HadaLitim @Marisa_C It's the clash between personal CPD and CPD for others/the sake of CPD then a little. #ELTchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:18

@KateLloyd05 @ChristineMulla @HadaLitim @Marisa_C @klgree online from TEFL Scotland etc. #eltchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:19

Do you think that people would respect them better if they had to pay for them? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:19

I wrote this post in 2010 and have been battling the 'usual suspects' thing since - sad it's still true http://t.co/xQISrf3M44 #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:20

@SueAnnan Respect what? #ELTchat

theUltinate

9/24/2014 20:20

@Marisa_C "So why do people register and give up?" Fascinating topic. As a newbie, I'm dying to know. #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:20

How can newcomers hear about something they don't know about? #ELTchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:20

@HadaLitim @ChristineMulla @Marisa_C @klgree I think it's too expensive to do online courses for most, Twitter is a better option #eltchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:20

@Shaunwilden online courses, MOOCs etc #ELTchat

jankenb2

9/24/2014 20:20

@HadaLitim #eltchat I have a theory that online Pd & other forms of OL experiences is made memorable by "stuff" &/n endless repeat of phil

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:21

@SueAnnan But we show off books we have written- is this different?  #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:21

@jankenb2 Could you elaborate pls? #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:21

@KateLloyd05 @edchatirl @HadaLitim @Marisa_C @klgree Ireland still a 'not a real teacher' perception in many cases. That's 1/2 #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:21

@SueAnnan I think they can’t be treated the same #ELTchat

klgree

9/24/2014 20:21

@HadaLitim @edchatirl @ChristineMulla @Marisa_C Ongoing PD is foreign to teachers who've had little/no pre- or in-service training #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:21

@Shaunwilden @KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan A talk on what? #eltchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:22

Problem of dropouts on MOOCs and Moodles (free) I have worked on was indeed high - ppl prefer to lurk sometimes than do the work #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:22

@MarjorieRosenbe @KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan choosing online cpd - will find link after #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:22

@Shaunwilden I agree, but does paid online stuff garner a better image from employers? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:22

RT @klgree: @HadaLitim @edchatirl @ChristineMulla @Marisa_C Ongoing PD is foreign to teachers who've had little/no pre- or in-service train…

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:22

RT @Marisa_C: Problem of dropouts on MOOCs and Moodles (free) I have worked on was indeed high - ppl prefer to lurk sometimes than do the w…

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:22

@Shaunwilden @SueAnnan I think they'd invest more time and care in them, yes. #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:23

@Marisa_C haha. Just read your blog. I play FarmVille on Facebook! #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:23

@Marisa_C I may have been guuilty of that at times? That's because I don't always want to commit extra time in HW tasks #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:23

@SueAnnan Don’t know, i think perhaps like initial training who it was offered by can make the difference #ELTchat

bar_zie

9/24/2014 20:23

RT @Marisa_C: Problem is many employers not engaging or familiar with online CPD or Moodles or MOOCs so a bit derisive or ignorant #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:23

@HadaLitim @muranava Books, articles, self-reflection. #eltchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:23

@MarjorieRosenbe @Shaunwilden @KateLloyd05 @SueAnnan our talk at IATEFL 2013 here tis http://t.co/jgkrBbPsK1 #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:23

RT @HadaLitim: @Marisa_C I may have been guuilty of that at times? That's because I don't always want to commit extra time in HW tasks #ELT…

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:23

@SueAnnan @Shaunwilden I wouldn't think so. Maybe if the paid course is branded/connected to a well-respected brand, yes. #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:23

@MarjorieRosenbe @muranava Yes, the old classic but O so reliable way! #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:23

@ChristineMulla @Shaunwilden I suppose that is why you see different faces on those kind of OL PD #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:24

@klgree @HadaLitim @edchatirl but also I think if ppl get pd from school, they don't feel need 2 look for it #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:24

@KateLloyd05 I play scrabble with @Shaunwilden  sick of losing #ELTchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:24

@ChristineMulla @KateLloyd05  @HadaLitim @Marisa_C @klgree  @ELTIreland I wasn't aware of #eltchinwag I like the name though! :) #eltchat

jankenb2

9/24/2014 20:24

#ELTchat I have participated in 3 MOOCS & while I did not complete the course syllabus, did take away what I felt I wanted. IOW I designed.

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:24

@KateLloyd05 @klgree @edchatirl Yes, and perhaps don't always have the time it takes to keep up with it #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:24

RT @Marisa_C: @MarjorieRosenbe @Shaunwilden @KateLloyd05 @SueAnnan our talk at IATEFL 2013 here tis http://t.co/jgkrBbPsK1 #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:25

@Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 rubbish we pretty even in score #eltchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:25

@HadaLitim @Marisa_C Yeah, difficult when a mil other things physically in front of you to do. The 'cloud' is so easy to avoid. #ELTchat

klgree

9/24/2014 20:25

@Marisa_C Group discussions for local teachers taking a MOOC can help. Those who join usually complete the course. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:25

@jankenb2 so you're saying the learning is there even if not doing tasks #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:25

@Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 And could the moderators stay om topic please #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:25

@Marisa_C @KateLloyd05 @Shaunwilden Lol! Is that in Greek then? ;) #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:25

RT @ChristineMulla: @HadaLitim @Marisa_C Yeah, difficult when a mil other things physically in front of you to do. The 'cloud' is so easy t…

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:26

@Shaunwilden @KateLloyd05 Ow!!!! #eltchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:26

@HadaLitim @KateLloyd05 @klgree @edchatirl should it be compulsory? Where does it leave a teacher with no PD in 1,5,10 years..? #eltchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:26

@Marisa_C @jankenb2 But that way there is no evidence, and it could look like a drop out  #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:26

@edchatirl @KateLloyd05 @klgree Mmm good question! #ELTchat Where?

jankenb2

9/24/2014 20:26

#ELTchat If badges or other, quantifiable measures of participation is provided, persistence would improve. That & community.

StudyBundles

9/24/2014 20:26

#eltchat hi all, apologies for lateness, just trying to catch up with all that's been said so far

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:27

I think some people do the minimum, just to get certificate too. #ELTchat

theteacherjames

9/24/2014 20:27

Hey everyone, better late than never! #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:27

@jankenb2 Do you think so? I feel if there isn't a recognised accreditor above it all, not sure in some parts of the world #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:27

@edchatirl @HadaLitim @klgree pd should be compulsory in some form: obs, books, in house training inc. #ELTchat

MicaelaCarey

9/24/2014 20:28

Hi everyone!  I'm here but lurking- still getting some work done before bed #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:28

@SueAnnan that's true of our learners too. Human nature #ELTchat

klgree

9/24/2014 20:28

@HadaLitim @edchatirl @KateLloyd05 I don't know how much value there is in compulsory PD. It tends to prompt a lot of groaning. #ELTchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:28

@HadaLitim @edchatirl @KateLloyd05 @klgree I would like to think I'd keep at the forefront of teaching throughout my career,naive? #eltchat

muranava

9/24/2014 20:28

imo if u hit on a good mix between the social & yr interest in topic its a winner found this with #teachtheweb course last year #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:28

@SueAnnan I think having them pay helps them overcome that :-) #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:29

@klgree @edchatirl @KateLloyd05 I agree, especially if not totally relevant to all participants #ELTchat

Ven_VVE

9/24/2014 20:29

If it's a well-designed online course with manageable # of ss, there will be much more tutor-student interaction (compared 2 MOOC) #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:29

Good infographic pinned by @NikPeachey on MOOCs here: http://t.co/2UMvIjiQO6 #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:29

@Shaunwilden but you can see from the forums how much participation there is- or isn't #ELTchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:29

@klgree @HadaLitim @edchatirl @KateLloyd05 a lot of learning happens with a groan, but perhaps a mindset change before making comp. #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:29

@edchatirl @KateLloyd05 @klgree Not at all! Well, it seems not all teachers think along those lines #ELTchat More power to you

josipa74

9/24/2014 20:29

Isnt' 'lurking' on MOOCs and so on all part of what they call 'entrepreneurial learning' these days?  #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:30

I think there's ppl spoilt for choice and ppl who just don't know what to choose or indeed where to go - so avoid getting involved #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:30

@klgree @HadaLitim @edchatirl not compulsory in a one size fits all sense, but in a 'you need to choose something' sense #eltchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:30

RT @josipa74: Isnt' 'lurking' on MOOCs and so on all part of what they call 'entrepreneurial learning' these days?  #ELTchat

jankenb2

9/24/2014 20:30

@Marisa_C no I am saying that many MOOCS are designed by modules & entry and exit is friendly. Topics start basic but quickly adv #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:30

@HadaLitim @jankenb2 I do it for me really, haven't thought about cert side of online CPD. Hmm... #ELTchat

StudyBundles

9/24/2014 20:30

@edchatirl @HadaLitim @KateLloyd05 @klgree I think it's possible, with a lot of dedication (and efficient use of your time) #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:31

I suppose you need to be online already too- to get the info about what's available - vicious circle?#ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:31

@KateLloyd05 @klgree @edchatirl We have an upcoming 4 day (all day) session of PD @ work and I can't say I'm looking forward to it. #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:31

for once (and for the first time) I am actually up to date in a mooc i signed up for #eltchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:31

@KateLloyd05 @klgree @HadaLitim @edchatirl I think that's a great point! #eltchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:31

@josipa74 Kind of this idea that it's OK to just pop in and out. Master's interviewer said exactly that to me about 1 I'd joined. #ELTchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:31

@HadaLitim @KateLloyd05 @klgree @edchatirl why not? #eltchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:32

@SueAnnan definitely. #ELTchat

jankenb2

9/24/2014 20:32

@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Agree, a design flaw, not always a learner issue related to persistence. #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:32

@ChristineMulla @jankenb2 Same here, but in parts of the world where training is few and far betwn, this online becomes THE option #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:32

@HadaLitim @klgree @edchatirl wow. That's harsh and prob due a few groans. #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:32

@edchatirl @KateLloyd05 @klgree Some of the topics covered I guess #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:33

@HadaLitim @ChristineMulla @jankenb2 Same here. The options are very limited and time is always at a premium #ELTchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:33

@StudyBundles @edchatirl @HadaLitim @KateLloyd05 @klgree it definitely wouldn't be simple, you're right there #eltchat

StudyBundles

9/24/2014 20:33

@ChristineMulla @HadaLitim @jankenb2 I do it for myself too, although I do record it in the 30hrs compulsory CPD we have to submit! #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:33

@KateLloyd05 @klgree @edchatirl Yup! #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:33

@edchatirl @KateLloyd05 @klgree @HadaLitim It is! Many Ts falling behind due to lack of CPD #eltchat But, how do we encourage it?

theteacherjames

9/24/2014 20:33

@Marisa_C @MarjorieRosenbe @Shaunwilden @KateLloyd05 @SueAnnan Here's the webinar you did for BELTA! http://t.co/gamItdlae4 #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:33

@ChristineMulla @edchatirl @KateLloyd05 @klgree Good question Chris! How do we? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:33

When I designed my first Moodle course I had to cover everything in 5 days - of the 180 ppl who joined I finished with about 12 #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:33

@HadaLitim  yes agreed that was the reason i started offering courses some of our schools couldn’t do it f2f #ELTchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:33

@HadaLitim @edchatirl @KateLloyd05 @klgree 4 days straight is a tough one. what topics are you covering? #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:34

RT @Shaunwilden: @HadaLitim  yes agreed that was the reason i started offering courses some of our schools couldn’t do it f2f #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:34

@StudyBundles @HadaLitim @jankenb2 Well, it is CPD after all. And darn good CPD at that! #ELTchat

josipa74

9/24/2014 20:34

I think people get exhausted with 2much edtech/ online PD. Is 'contemplative computing' the answer? http://t.co/A2RGHca5K8 #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:34

@ChristineMulla @StudyBundles @jankenb2 Absolutely, but the question is, how do we convince those who feel it isn't #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:35

Spacing out attendance and making tasks doable in a short time is important - either ppl get bogged down with work family &give up #ELTchat

klgree

9/24/2014 20:35

@HadaLitim @ChristineMulla @edchatirl @KateLloyd05 Building relationships is a big part of it. Finding a mentor or partner can help.#ELTChat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:35

@ChristineMulla @KateLloyd05 @klgree @HadaLitim Get them on Twitter,it's awesome for CPD. Grab their hand and show them how its use #eltchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:35

@theteacherjames @Marisa_C @MarjorieRosenbe @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan I'm confused about BELTA, is anyone actually in Belgium? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:35

RT @Marisa_C: Spacing out attendance and making tasks doable in a short time is important - either ppl get bogged down with work family &gi…

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:35

I get fed up doing the work, when I see ohers slacking, though. It's demoralising #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:35

@edchatirl @ChristineMulla @KateLloyd05 @klgree Doing an INSET on it  next week for exactly this reason #ELTchat

Ven_VVE

9/24/2014 20:35

@Marisa_C Was that one of the early #Moodle versions? Looks much better now (2.7). :) #ELTchat

jankenb2

9/24/2014 20:36

@HadaLitim Reality is  that licensing requires PD hours. i am currently completing 2 OL self paced lit courses. #eltchat easily met w/MOOC

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:36

@edchatirl @HadaLitim @KateLloyd05 @klgree What makes all of you engage and continue to engage? Can we id a difference in drive? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:36

@klgree @ChristineMulla @edchatirl @KateLloyd05 That's a great idea. Like a buddy to join courses with? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:36

@Ven_VVE was a SEETA course on challenging reading activities - 5 days too much #ELTchat long ago yes

josipa74

9/24/2014 20:36

@SueAnnan I agree Sue, I've been on several online courses where I've had to 'do' the group task myself #ELTchat

klgree

9/24/2014 20:36

@ELTwriter @edchatirl @HadaLitim @KateLloyd05 I agree - options are important. Some prefer webinars, others a MOOC, and some #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:36

@SueAnnan good question.  We had some very committed people like you on our evo course. #eltchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:37

@SueAnnan And seeing those who don't engage be viewed on the same level. #ELTchat Can be tough!

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:37

RT @josipa74: @SueAnnan I agree Sue, I've been on several online courses where I've had to 'do' the group task myself #ELTchat > me too

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:37

@josipa74 or you post first- and everyone just copies #ELTchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:37

@ChristineMulla  @HadaLitim @KateLloyd05 @klgree I do it because I was shown the use of CPD last year on Postgrad. See the value #eltchat

StudyBundles

9/24/2014 20:37

@ChristineMulla @HadaLitim @jankenb2 demonstrate it's use in a practical sense maybe? #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:37

@ChristineMulla @edchatirl @KateLloyd05 @klgree Belonging to a wider PLN and the interest in what's happening 'out there' #ELTchat

klgree

9/24/2014 20:37

@ELTwriter @edchatirl @HadaLitim @KateLloyd05 Of course options are important when it comes to topics as well. Relevance is key. #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:37

@MarjorieRosenbe the difference there is 1.choice, great tutors , small groups #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:38

@MarjorieRosenbe @SueAnnan Where do you find out about ELT MOOCs? #ELTchat

josipa74

9/24/2014 20:38

@Marisa_C @SueAnnan what's the answer? #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:38

RT @edchatirl: @ChristineMulla  @HadaLitim @KateLloyd05 @klgree I do it because I was shown the use of CPD last year on Postgrad. See the v…

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:38

@ChristineMulla @MarjorieRosenbe @SueAnnan I see them on fcebook or twitter #ELTchat

josipa74

9/24/2014 20:39

@Marisa_C @SueAnnan facilitators are often reluctant to get involved #ELTchat

klgree

9/24/2014 20:39

@HadaLitim @ChristineMulla @edchatirl @KateLloyd05 Yes, learning buddies offer support and demand accountability. #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:39

@ChristineMulla @MarjorieRosenbe @SueAnnan Same as Shaun, on fb, twitter or emails #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:39

@ChristineMulla twitter or facebook, occasionally Google+ for me #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:39

RT @ELTwriter: @Marisa_C @klgree If it' money then it's a chore and it won't last.#ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:40

@Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe @SueAnnan Must keep a closer eye out so. Seeing webinars but not clocking MOOCs. Still learning #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:40

@SueAnnan @ChristineMulla cos i’ve used coursea etc they often email me what they think are relevant moods #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:40

@josipa74 don't know. But I get P**ed off and lose enthusiasm sometimes #ELTchat

klgree

9/24/2014 20:40

@ELTwriter @Marisa_C Yes, I agree. So how can the disinterested be motivated? #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:40

@SueAnnan But that happens in f2f courses, at work, on committees,  etc. We do these things for ourselves, not 4 others #eltchat

StudyBundles

9/24/2014 20:40

@edchatirl @ChristineMulla @HadaLitim @KateLloyd05 @klgree 4 days straight?? Don't like the sound of that! #ELTchat

jankenb2

9/24/2014 20:40

@josipa74 I believe validity is in strong product supported by written rational. In a perfect world a cert body could rview & award #eltchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:40

@Shaunwilden @SueAnnan Oh yes, I do get them, but business ones, must add interests. #ELTchat Thank you.

klgree

9/24/2014 20:41

@ELTwriter Yes, I think a workshop on Twitter may be in order sometime soon. #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:41

@Shaunwilden @ChristineMulla I get the same from iTDi and the consultants-e :-) #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:41

@klgree @ELTwriter I think the disinterested will never be motivated by anything other than tangible evidence, e.g. career boost #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:41

@StudyBundles @edchatirl @ChristineMulla @KateLloyd05 @klgree Thanks! I thought I was weird for a sec. Ok, one day is an away day #ELTchat

josipa74

9/24/2014 20:42

@jankenb2 I agree - but the question remains - is anyone 'guiding' the learning on a MOOC? #ELTchat

StudyBundles

9/24/2014 20:42

@SueAnnan @ChristineMulla any suggested Facebook pages/groups which are good to follow? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:42

@Shaunwilden @SueAnnan @ChristineMulla Me too #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:42

@Marisa_C @klgree @ELTwriter and many are happy where they are #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:42

@StudyBundles @SueAnnan @ChristineMulla Yeah #ELTchat :-)

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:42

@klgree @ELTwriter the disinterested also need to find themselves in a culture positive to CPD - #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:42

@jankenb2 @josipa74 It's prob likely that will come about. Difficult internationally, do you think? #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:43

@StudyBundles @ChristineMulla IATEFL, TTO, IH ( shaun?) #ELTchat

StudyBundles

9/24/2014 20:43

@Shaunwilden @SueAnnan @ChristineMulla of course! :) #eltchat

Ven_VVE

9/24/2014 20:43

@ChristineMulla @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe @SueAnnan think @adi_rajan smts blogs about MOOCs that cd b interesting 2 ELT folk #eltchat

klgree

9/24/2014 20:43

@Marisa_C @ELTwriter I have many motivated teachers in my community, but they are at different institutions and struggling with PD #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:43

@SueAnnan @StudyBundles @ChristineMulla The IH facebk page doesn’t really give you that kinda info #ELTchat

YVNZCBLISS

9/24/2014 20:43

RT @BELTABelgium: A free online course from the British Council and the University of Southampton: http://t.co/uoWOIzMvPE #eltchat

josipa74

9/24/2014 20:43

@StudyBundles @SueAnnan @ChristineMulla have to say the e-consultants courses were excellent (and I don't work for them honest!) #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:44

@StudyBundles @SueAnnan @ChristineMulla ELTchat, BELTA,  iTDi, various TESOL pages #ELTchat

IsilBoy

9/24/2014 20:44

Definitely! RT @SueAnnan: Do you think that people would respect them better if they had to pay for them? #ELTchat”

klgree

9/24/2014 20:44

@Marisa_C @ELTwriter One of my current efforts is building a positive culture in the Sylhet ELT community. It's tough going. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:44

TESOL EVO MOOCS are also usually very good #ELTchat many creative trainers working for love

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:44

@josipa74 @StudyBundles @SueAnnan @ChristineMulla never heard of them. What did u study? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:44

@Shaunwilden @SueAnnan @StudyBundles @ChristineMulla The website's great for info though #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:45

@IsilBoy Hi Isil . Thanks for commenting #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:45

@IsilBoy @SueAnnan Respect or commit? #ELTchat

theteacherjames

9/24/2014 20:45

@HadaLitim Thanks for the @BELTABelgium mention :-) #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:45

@KateLloyd05 @josipa74 @StudyBundles @ChristineMulla I did my CertIBET with them in 2009 #ELTchat

StudyBundles

9/24/2014 20:45

@Marisa_C @klgree @ELTwriter I agree, Twitter is an accessible starting point for those not necessarily interested in online CPD #eltchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:45

RT @Marisa_C: TESOL EVO MOOCS are also usually very good #ELTchat many creative trainers working for love

jankenb2

9/24/2014 20:46

@ChristineMulla @josipa74 But doable if listed as OER. #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:46

@theteacherjames @BELTABelgium :D #ELTchat

muranava

9/24/2014 20:46

some net courses don't make most of social e.g. forum clunky, no social media chatter, undervalue connectedness unlike #ccourses :) #eltchat

slagoski23

9/24/2014 20:46

@Marisa_C @klgree @ELTwriter Where I work, we have found adopting the #EdCamp model helps increase motivation & interest  #ELTchat

josipa74

9/24/2014 20:46

We are doing CPD in Berlin w/ our own teachers group -w/ events like the 'Lesson Jam' http://t.co/AJ5rq6WjRk #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:46

I found that last weekend there were 3 webinars on at the same time. Bad planning? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:47

@muranava Most 'reputable' providers are getting better though #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:47

@slagoski23 @Marisa_C @klgree @ELTwriter What is it? #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:47

@josipa74 @StudyBundles @SueAnnan NIcky Hockly is a great speaker. Saw her last yr at Digital Sig in Ireland from @iatefl #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:47

@slagoski23 @klgree @ELTwriter Would u expand pls #ELTchat on #Edcamp model

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:47

@slagoski23 @Marisa_C @klgree @ELTwriter can u explain? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:47

@ChristineMulla @josipa74 @StudyBundles @SueAnnan @iatefl Yes, she is! #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:47

@SueAnnan but there’re now so many its hard for there not to be clashes #ELTchat

ELTwriter

9/24/2014 20:48

@klgree @edchatirl @HadaLitim @KateLloyd05 Exactly -intrinsic motivation & empowerment facilitated thru choice which MOOCs can lack #eltchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:48

@Shaunwilden sure, but it makes life difficult #ELTchat

jankenb2

9/24/2014 20:48

@josipa74 #eltchat the m$? is assessment in a MOOC, otherwise its Self reg learning not unlike watching PBS or a good documentary.

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:48

@SueAnnan More offer, more competition so this should raise the standards #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:48

RT @HadaLitim: @StudyBundles @SueAnnan @ChristineMulla ELTchat, BELTA,  iTDi, various TESOL pages #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:49

RT @HadaLitim: @SueAnnan More offer, more competition so this should raise the standards #ELTchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:49

@Marisa_C @klgree @ELTwriter there should be more promotion of Twit CPD.A wealth of experience,knowledge, resources & encouragement #eltchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:49

RT @edchatirl: @Marisa_C @klgree @ELTwriter there should be more promotion of Twit CPD.A wealth of experience,knowledge, resources & encour…

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:49

@HadaLitim but they were all really brilliant offerings- high standards for all providers :-( #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:49

@edchatirl @Marisa_C @klgree @ELTwriter There's a full time job there #ELTchat

josipa74

9/24/2014 20:49

@slagoski23 @Marisa_C @klgree @ELTwriter I agree - in Berlin - barcamps in the startup scene are a big thing - and a great idea! #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:50

@edchatirl @klgree @ELTwriter and Twitter is where u can find out all about MOOCs and stuff going on #ELTchat

StudyBundles

9/24/2014 20:50

@HadaLitim @SueAnnan there's a lot out there (if only I had more time...) #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:50

@SueAnnan So they should repeat them if the demand remains #ELTchat then more business for them

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:50

RT @Marisa_C: @edchatirl @klgree @ELTwriter and Twitter is where u can find out all about MOOCs and stuff going on #ELTchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:50

@ELTwriter @klgree @HadaLitim @KateLloyd05 I like where this is going,I agree completely. Too many mundane, pointless tasks on many #eltchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:50

Something coming up here (http://t.co/q53ElirxE3) in the near future from @ESLbrain #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:51

@HadaLitim They won't though. But I should think there will be recordings #ELTchat  Better than nothing

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:51

@josipa74 Alot of TAs run workshops & PD - some like me prefer f2f. #eltchat

StudyBundles

9/24/2014 20:51

@SueAnnan @HadaLitim were they available to watch retrospectively? #eltchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:51

@slagoski23 @KateLloyd05 @klgree @ELTwriter thx for sharing link #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:51

RT @Marisa_C: @klgree @ELTwriter the disinterested also need to find themselves in a culture positive to CPD - #ELTchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:51

@HadaLitim @Marisa_C @klgree @ELTwriter haha you're right. it would be interesting to see if it made a diff to perceptions though #eltchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:51

@StudyBundles @HadaLitim I think so #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:51

@SueAnnan I actually love recordings! That was my main reason for taking up an IATEFL membership. Watch in my own time #ELTchat

Ven_VVE

9/24/2014 20:52

Loved #MachinEVO! RT @Marisa_C: TESOL EVO MOOCS are also usually very good #ELTchat many creative trainers working for love

jankenb2

9/24/2014 20:52

@Marisa_C To assess lurk part, offer download items & count. Always exceeds active participants . & give alt disc thread opts #eltchat

josipa74

9/24/2014 20:52

@MarjorieRosenbe I agree - an element of F2F is essential for some. Did my MA online but we had intensive f2f session twice a year #ELTchat

StudyBundles

9/24/2014 20:52

RT @Marisa_C: @edchatirl @klgree @ELTwriter and Twitter is where u can find out all about MOOCs and stuff going on #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:53

@Marisa_C Have to b honest and say you, @MarjorieRosenbe, @HadaLitim inspire me to keep it up! Gotta run for now. Till next time. #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:53

@edchatirl @Marisa_C @klgree @ELTwriter Might! Wth perseverance, the database would build and some big shot would come and back it #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:53

@SueAnnan can't be iatefl ones because we can only have 1 at a time in adobe room I believe.  #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:53

@ChristineMulla @Marisa_C @MarjorieRosenbe Awww and you me! Thanks for being with us. Let us know abt the MA #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:54

@MarjorieRosenbe IATEFL one this weekend? #ELTchat

josipa74

9/24/2014 20:54

@Ven_VVE @Marisa_C is there any way to monetize MOOCs - make them pay for hard-working, skilled trainers? #ELTchat

StudyBundles

9/24/2014 20:54

@josipa74 @MarjorieRosenbe did my MA distance too, there wasn't any F2F available, I would def have benefitted if there had been #eltchat

ChristineMulla

9/24/2014 20:54

Slán guys, brain is becoming squishy. See you next time! Thanks for, well, the usual wonderful CPD! #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:54

5 mins to go, any volunteer for the summary please #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:55

@ChristineMulla Tara! Chat soon #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:55

@ChristineMulla see you next time #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:55

@josipa74 @Ven_VVE if there is a way I would liek to know too - :-) #ELTchat

jankenb2

9/24/2014 20:55

@josipa74 @MarjorieRosenbe F2F certainly ideal but not necessary. Good OL design includes sync session with monitored disc board. #eltchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:55

goodness, I didn't see the time pass.I'll do the summary as its my topic #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:55

RT @josipa74: @Ven_VVE @Marisa_C is there any way to monetize MOOCs - make them pay for hard-working, skilled trainers? #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:55

@SueAnnan yes. Susan Hillyard on Saturday.  #eltchat

KateLloyd05

9/24/2014 20:55

@ChristineMulla me too. Time to turn out the light. Night all and thanks for chat #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:55

@josipa74 @Ven_VVE @Marisa_C Yeah lower the numbers, get some tutors and offer it an on online course :-) #ELTchat

muranava

9/24/2014 20:56

Various learners often walk away from learning opportunities with tremendously different results and rewards http://t.co/eUruDQqZKH #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:56

@KateLloyd05 @ChristineMulla Thanks Kate, and see you again soon #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:56

@Shaunwilden @josipa74 @Ven_VVE @Marisa_C I'm with you on that, but think MOOCS serve a need for free stuff sometimes #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:56

RT @Shaunwilden: @josipa74 @Ven_VVE @Marisa_C Yeah lower the numbers, get some tutors and offer it an on online course :-) #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:56

@HadaLitim Can't this time, behind on writing project. #eltchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:57

RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @SueAnnan yes. Susan Hillyard on Saturday.  #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:57

@Shaunwilden @josipa74 @Ven_VVE @Marisa_C There's a plan! #ELTchat

josipa74

9/24/2014 20:57

@Marisa_C @Ven_VVE I would pay for a MOOC if it was really good! And easy to pay - one click/ paypal/ low cost. Price elasticity!  #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:57

Personally I believe that a lot of ppl who start MOOCs or Moodle courses do not have the habit of organising own learning #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:57

@MarjorieRosenbe Thanks Marje. Sue says she will as it's her topic. #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:57

@Marisa_C what do you mean by moodle courses? #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 20:57

@ChristineMulla @Marisa_C @HadaLitim Thanks. Till next time. #eltchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:58

@Marisa_C and they can be a bit rambling and shambolic with soo many people #ELTchat

josipa74

9/24/2014 20:58

@HadaLitim @Shaunwilden @Ven_VVE @Marisa_C A '1' MOOC - one euro, one pound, one dollar etc.#ELTchat

Ven_VVE

9/24/2014 20:58

RT @Shaunwilden: @josipa74 @Ven_VVE @Marisa_C Yeah lower the numbers, get some tutors and offer it an on online course :-) #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 20:58

So may be those types of courses where u log in and out and manage ur own time need a training component at the start #ELTchat

muranava

9/24/2014 20:58

@josipa74 @Ven_VVE @Marisa_C just look at all the xmoocs ... #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:58

@MarjorieRosenbe @ChristineMulla @Marisa_C Yes definitely. Chat again soon :)  #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:58

RT @Marisa_C: So may be those types of courses where u log in and out and manage ur own time need a training component at the start #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 20:59

@josipa74 @HadaLitim @Ven_VVE @Marisa_C I think a low cost would work the same way as free i.e. not give motivation #ELTchat

jankenb2

9/24/2014 20:59

#ELTchat Good afternoon from Portland OR. #eltchat

StudyBundles

9/24/2014 20:59

@josipa74 @Marisa_C @Ven_VVE price elasticity = pay what you think is a fair price? #eltchat

edchatirl

9/24/2014 20:59

@ChristineMulla Bye Christine! Nice to make a new connection! :) see you all again #eltchat Thank you!!

josipa74

9/24/2014 20:59

@Marisa_C I agree, like a preparation to learn course #ELTchat

ELTwriter

9/24/2014 20:59

@slagoski23 @KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C @klgree Edtech intense will be phrase to turn tech migrants off & natives baffled at low MOOC #s #eltchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 20:59

@edchatirl @ChristineMulla Bye and thanks for joining us. See you again #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 20:59

I think, personally I like course deadlines- start dates etc. MOOCs are too loose for me, people starting after all have finished #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 21:00

RT @SueAnnan: I think, personally I like course deadlines- start dates etc. MOOCs are too loose for me, people starting after all have fini…

josipa74

9/24/2014 21:00

@Shaunwilden @HadaLitim @Ven_VVE @Marisa_C But people pay for low-cost ebooks? #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 21:00

@SueAnnan I think this is the conclusion many are coming #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 21:00

@SueAnnan agree - too loose for many ppl - deadlines etc may be more suitable for some participants #ELTchat

StudyBundles

9/24/2014 21:01

#eltchat thanks everyone, another v.interesting chat! Have a nice evening/morning/afternoon :)

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 21:01

@Marisa_C for me, certainly :-) #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 21:01

@StudyBundles Thanks and the same to you. Chat again soon #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 21:01

So what conclusions can we draw from our #ELTchat today?

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 21:01

Goodnight everyone. Thanks for making the chat so interesting #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 21:01

RT @Marisa_C: So what conclusions can we draw from our #ELTchat today?

muranava

9/24/2014 21:01

thanks all :) #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 21:02

@josipa74 @Shaunwilden @Ven_VVE @Marisa_C as in The Round? I do. #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 21:02

@josipa74 @HadaLitim @Ven_VVE @Marisa_C fair point I guess if you can take the material then thats a good analogy to make #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 21:02

did we get a summary volunteer? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 21:02

@muranava Thanks Mura Nava #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

9/24/2014 21:02

Night all. As usual great to meet up on line. Have a good week. #eltchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 21:02

great question i asked when everyone leaving - who wants to do the summary please? #ELTchat

klgree

9/24/2014 21:02

@ELTwriter @slagoski23 @KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C Of course I spend a lot of time reposting ELT and #ELTchat materials from Twitter.

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 21:02

@Shaunwilden Yes Sue #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 21:02

RT @MarjorieRosenbe: Night all. As usual great to meet up on line. Have a good week. #eltchat

slagoski23

9/24/2014 21:02

@ELTwriter @KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C @klgree Agreed, but model is supportive as tech migrants are surrounded by lifelong learners. #eltchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 21:02

Don’t forget next week is 12UK lunch #ELTchat

josipa74

9/24/2014 21:03

@Marisa_C I really see and have experienced the benefits of online CPD - but is it sustainable? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 21:03

@Marisa_C I asked 5 mins ago and Sue responded favourably ;) #ELTchat

josipa74

9/24/2014 21:03

thanks all great chat #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 21:04

Thanks to all for joining - Look out for our call for new topics coming up very soon !!! #ELTchat

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 21:04

RT @Marisa_C: Thanks to all for joining - Look out for our call for new topics coming up very soon !!! #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 21:05

Right got to go back to podcast editing for the http://t.co/tVgGcOG1sJ event c ye all next week #ELTchat

Marisa_C

9/24/2014 21:05

And big announcement coming soon on a tweet near you about #ELTchat's new collaboration!!!

Shaunwilden

9/24/2014 21:05

RT @Marisa_C: And big announcement coming soon on a tweet near you about #ELTchat's new collaboration!!!

HadaLitim

9/24/2014 21:05

RT @Marisa_C: And big announcement coming soon on a tweet near you about #ELTchat's new collaboration!!!

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 21:05

RT @Marisa_C: And big announcement coming soon on a tweet near you about #ELTchat's new collaboration!!!

SueAnnan

9/24/2014 21:06

Bye all #ELTchat

StudyBundles

9/24/2014 21:07

RT @Marisa_C: And big announcement coming soon on a tweet near you about #ELTchat's new collaboration!!!

ELTwriter

9/24/2014 21:08

@slagoski23 @KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C @klgree BOOM! There's my PD quota done for the day. Thanks #eltchat

 

 

 

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