| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T19:57:29 |
@naomishema Well, we have decided to vote in the #ELtchat itself - vote closed about an hr ago - tie btwn Fun and Juggling work & home |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T19:57:57 |
RT @Marisa_C: @naomishema Well, we have decided to vote in the #ELtchat itself - vote closed about an hr ago - tie btwn Fun and Juggling wo… |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T19:58:01 |
I agree. I was surprised you sounded FRench :-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T19:58:33 |
@SueAnnan summarised it nicely - Work-Life Balance or Fun in class #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T19:58:50 |
@SueAnnan also wanted to ask which topic made it. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T19:58:54 |
@naomishema Hi Naomi - our very own puffin :D thanks petal - it was fun to do with Sandy. Would love to hear you too ! #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T19:58:56 |
Okay my vote is for work-life balance #eLTchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T19:59:08 |
RT @Marisa_C: @SueAnnan summarised it nicely - Work-Life Balance or Fun in class #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T19:59:31 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan If the authors of the posts join that could tip the scale. @LeonieOverbeek or @kevchanwow #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T19:59:34 |
@MarjorieRosenbe voting again as poll was tied. Work-life balance or fun in class? #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T19:59:45 |
@SueAnnan Lol! Because I am hehe but then again not everyone gets it #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:00:07 |
My vote goes to the fun topic :-) #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:00:25 |
@SueAnnan <3 #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:00:50 |
Should everything in class be fun? Is there a price to be paid for making sure students report your lessons as fun? #eltchat @Shaunwilden |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T20:00:53 |
Hi #eltchat I vote for Fun then :-) |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:01:21 |
@Marisa_C No I hate it when teachers say now for the fun stuff #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:01:35 |
Time management & teacher’s lives ; juggling work, CPD, family and sleep! that;s the other topic #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:02:12 |
@Shaunwilden Did I miss someone that deserves a big Mazal Tov?!! Apologies! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:02:14 |
@Marisa_C Ok fun then #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:02:17 |
@Shaunwilden we haven't voted yet :-) #eltchat which topic do you vote for? |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:02:45 |
@Marisa_C Juggling! A timely topic for me #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:02:46 |
Okay let's go with fun #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:02:58 |
@SueAnnan Ooops #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:03:29 |
I suggested them both after reading the two posts, so I'm at a "tie" #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:03:50 |
So what do you mean by fun anyway? #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:04:05 |
Evening all. What's the decision then? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:04:35 |
@KateLloyd05 Which one do you go for Kate? #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:05:42 |
@Marisa_C can't remember which one I voted for. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:06:06 |
@SueAnnan Lessons that entertain Ss? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:06:13 |
@KateLloyd05 Just choose again :-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:06:17 |
Waiting #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:06:23 |
RT @elawassell: My vote goes for "fun" topic. But not necessarily the fun itself. :-) #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:06:32 |
@Marisa_C The plot thickens #eltchat |
| anasainzc |
2014-06-25T20:06:38 |
Hi guys! Am I late? #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:06:47 |
@Marisa_C looks like we're talking about fun #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:07:08 |
as we seem to be talking about fun already, lets stick with that. #eltchat |
| elawassell |
2014-06-25T20:07:09 |
@Shaunwilden yep - was just going to add the #eltchat hashtag :-) Ta! |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:07:18 |
@anasainzc Hi Ana, no, just in time #eltchat |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:07:31 |
Evening, #eltchat. |
| anasainzc |
2014-06-25T20:07:38 |
@HadaLitim Great! #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:07:46 |
is there a difference between Teens, YL and Adults when it comes to making lessons fun? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:07:48 |
@EdLaur Hi Laura, welcome back #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:07:55 |
@KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C and I thinkbi voted for a different one. I'm fine with either. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:07:57 |
RT @SueAnnan: is there a difference between Teens, YL and Adults when it comes to making lessons fun? #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:08:43 |
@SueAnnan I think it depends on the nationality and culture too #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:09:02 |
How about we pick one and start off in fall with other one? #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:09:13 |
In the post @LeonieOverbeek writes abt not getting the message across to the ss that some thing need hard work, not everything fun #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:09:19 |
@SueAnnan I'd say yes #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:09:29 |
Does everything have to be fun to motivate? #eltchat Is there a justification for always turning things into games? |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:09:32 |
@HadaLitim #eltchat Thanks! Going for hat trick this week. Eltchinwag Monday, Edchatde last night...Need all the inspiration I can get! |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:09:52 |
@naomishema @LeonieOverbeek I often have to remind my students about this #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:10:01 |
Remember this is our last #ELTchat before we have a summer break |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:10:08 |
@naomishema @LeonieOverbeek ah u mean like 'edutainment'? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:10:13 |
does fun have to mean games ?@Marisa_C #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:10:14 |
Also some administrators want to hear SS report that lessons are fun, pressure on ts #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:10:26 |
@EdLaur Le Grand Schlem! #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:10:35 |
RT @Marisa_C: Remember this is our last #ELTchat before we have a summer break |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:10:41 |
RT @KateLloyd05: @naomishema @LeonieOverbeek ah u mean like 'edutainment'? #eltchat > kindof, yes, |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T20:10:43 |
@Marisa_C Smething can be challenging, gripping, for example - fun is not a prerequisite for effectve learning #eltchat |
| David__Boughton |
2014-06-25T20:10:43 |
@MarjorieRosenbe Is this last #eltchat of the school year? |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:10:45 |
RT @KateLloyd05: @naomishema @LeonieOverbeek ah u mean like 'edutainment'? #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:10:51 |
RT @HanaTicha: @Marisa_C Smething can be challenging, gripping, for example - fun is not a prerequisite for effectve learning #eltchat |
| elawassell |
2014-06-25T20:10:53 |
RT @SueAnnan: is there a difference between Teens, YL and Adults when it comes to making lessons fun? #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:10:55 |
@KateLloyd05 @SueAnnan I also think it depends on the teacher and the rapport he/she has with the sts. #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2014-06-25T20:10:58 |
@SueAnnan I think yes! Fun is connected with interest. Different ages, different interests. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:11:04 |
@naomishema It's good for business #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:11:11 |
@naomishema And somd admins hate it when kids report "We didn't do anything today we were just playing games" #eltchat - local cultures! |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:11:21 |
RT @Marisa_C: @naomishema And somd admins hate it when kids report "We didn't do anything today we were just playing games" #eltchat - loca… |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:11:22 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C is fun different to engaging? #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:11:43 |
RT @KateLloyd05: @SueAnnan @Marisa_C is fun different to engaging? #eltchat > different, I think |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:11:48 |
@David__Boughton @MarjorieRosenbe Yes it is #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:11:48 |
Have we already defined what 'fun' is? #eltchat |
| David__Boughton |
2014-06-25T20:11:53 |
@Marisa_C When students are paying for the classes, it seems there is more pressure ot make it fun. #eltchat |
| anasainzc |
2014-06-25T20:11:54 |
I think we have to find the point or the balance between fun and challeging. Of course it is not a piece of cake #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:12:00 |
@HanaTicha @Marisa_C Sadly, some Ss sometimes seem to think it is #eltchat |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:12:33 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C #eltchat Good question! With my adults, fun often means chatting and not being asked to read/ do grammar! |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:12:34 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @SueAnnan agree. Personality is key #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:12:42 |
@David__Boughton @Marisa_C This is definitely true with GE but not so much with EAP #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2014-06-25T20:13:04 |
@Marisa_C it doesn't 'have to' I suppose. It is a means to an end, though, isn't it? #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:13:21 |
@Marisa_C sometimes it's more of ffective to make it personal or emotional - that's not always fun. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:13:30 |
I think students being engaged is more important #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:13:34 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Not always, a good topic can sometimes mean the difference between fun and boring #eltchat |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:13:41 |
@HanaTicha #eltchat So true! And Challenging / gripping etc is often more rewarding for Ss too! |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:13:47 |
RT @SueAnnan: I think students being engaged is more important #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:13:58 |
RT @EdLaur: @HanaTicha #eltchat So true! And Challenging / gripping etc is often more rewarding for Ss too! |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:13:59 |
RT @SueAnnan: I think students being engaged is more important #eltchat |
| elawassell |
2014-06-25T20:14:35 |
RT @SueAnnan: I think students being engaged is more important #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:14:43 |
@HadaLitim @Marisa_C You can't please all the people all of the time though #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:14:50 |
RT @naomishema: I see engaged as being involved and "getting" the work being done. It doesn't mean laughing or competitveness #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:15:09 |
@SueAnnan agree. It could be fun but can also be concentration, curiosity etc as driving force. #eltchat |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T20:15:12 |
@EdLaur Yes. And I think that completing a seemingly boring task can be rewarding > fun in the end #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:15:25 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Yes that's true #eltchat |
| anasainzc |
2014-06-25T20:15:26 |
RT @HanaTicha: @EdLaur Yes. And I think that completing a seemingly boring task can be rewarding > fun in the end #eltchat |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:15:40 |
@HadaLitim @naomishema #eltchat Sometimes you're told do whatever keeps the Ss booking more classes, regardless of whether it's effective. |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:15:55 |
@HanaTicha @EdLaur So rewarding can equate fun Hana? #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:16:06 |
In the post @LeonieOverbeek warns of the danger of TELLING the ss that learning is fun. #eltchat |
| Notyetlanguage |
2014-06-25T20:16:17 |
@David__Boughton @Marisa_C #eltchat true - but if we speak about adult learners there is also more pressure to learn fast. |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T20:16:17 |
@HadaLitim @EdLaur For me, personally yes #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:16:40 |
Thinking about it, maybe we just need to ensure emotions of any kind to help learning. Learning with heart & not just head . #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:16:56 |
@naomishema I am often guilty of telling students it's easy ..#eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:17:01 |
What is the effect of games on the emotions and intellect? Perhaps we should be talking abt this #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:17:01 |
@EdLaur @naomishema yes, in some centres all it gets is a T being compared to another as being more fun and the pbs start #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:17:14 |
@HanaTicha @EdLaur I agree #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:17:15 |
RT @Marisa_C: What is the effect of games on the emotions and intellect? Perhaps we should be talking abt this #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:17:20 |
RT @SueAnnan: @naomishema I am often guilty of telling students it's easy ..#eltchat > not the same as fun, though |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:17:32 |
@HadaLitim @David__Boughton @Marisa_C True. Totally different motivation there. #eltchat |
| anasainzc |
2014-06-25T20:18:16 |
I think fun means challeging. If you just base your lessons on fun it can be a disaster bcause the don't take it seriously #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:18:19 |
@naomishema @SueAnnan What do you mean? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:18:28 |
@naomishema but it does lighten the class #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:18:33 |
I teach struggling learners. I know it is good to present new vocab in fun way, but then they need drill/prctce to remember #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:18:43 |
RT @naomishema: I teach struggling learners. I know it is good to present new vocab in fun way, but then they need drill/prctce to remember… |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:18:47 |
@Marisa_C Jst looked at motivation in last blog post. Still not sure how much influence ts have on motivation. #eltchat |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:19:21 |
@angelos_bollas @Marisa_C #eltchat I don't think so. 'Engaging' tasks can be problem solving/ project work / sth creative. Don't need laughs |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:19:48 |
@SueAnnan @HadaLitim @Marisa_C Justcread evaluations. What sts like & don't like are games. Most do but some don't. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:19:59 |
@naomishema 'Easy' as in 'achievable' which can make a big difference in Ss' motivation and enjoyment #eltchat |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T20:20:18 |
I have classes where I simply can't teach in the 'fun' way - it'd disctract the ss and spoil the lesson #eltchat |
| designerlessons |
2014-06-25T20:20:21 |
Sometimes "fun" is seen as trivial and therefore a waste of time. Engaging, challenging, worthwhile are key, fun is secondary 4 me #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:20:29 |
I would have difficulty selling the idea of games to some of my adults #eltchat |
| Notyetlanguage |
2014-06-25T20:20:31 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat About emotions, not all students can accept losing in a competitive game. But still it's fun during the game. |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:20:42 |
@naomishema #eltchat Sorry, I haven't read the post. Was it referring to kids/teens? Or all learners? |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:21:05 |
@HadaLitim easy as achievable yes, but that doesn't mean u didn't invent effort. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:21:14 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @SueAnnan @Marisa_C Interesting and not surprising #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:21:23 |
RT @naomishema: @HadaLitim easy as achievable yes, but that doesn't mean u didn't invent effort. #eltchat |
| elawassell |
2014-06-25T20:21:35 |
1of the Qs I usually ask myself after a lesson: Was it interesting? Now thinking about it I never noted : that was fun. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:21:49 |
@EdLaur @naomishema All learners Laura #eltchat |
| elawassell |
2014-06-25T20:22:02 |
RT @EdLaur: @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C #eltchat I don't think so. 'Engaging' tasks can be problem solving/ project work / sth creative. Don'… |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:22:18 |
@SueAnnan Most of my adults love games but depends on group. Played musical chairs with govt officials for example. #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:22:23 |
Here's link http://t.co/KgJTqhE9PB… I think school children mainly #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:22:32 |
@elawassell I agree. I always ask my students if the lesson was useful, engaging etc, but not usually 'fun' #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:22:42 |
@elawassell I too but I also often ask my Ss and this isn't necessarily after games. Helps me gauge what they find 'fun' #eltchat |
| David__Boughton |
2014-06-25T20:23:00 |
It's looking like people are saying interesting, challenging, engaging, are all more important than "fun" #eltchat |
| Notyetlanguage |
2014-06-25T20:23:04 |
@designerlessons #eltchat I totally agree:) |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:23:05 |
Objectives of games fo YL's have a lot to do with their cognitive developement as well as languag #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:23:09 |
RT @David__Boughton: It's looking like people are saying interesting, challenging, engaging, are all more important than "fun" #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2014-06-25T20:23:22 |
@Notyetlanguage @Marisa_C And games can help foster a more collaborative atmosphere. Some Ss may feel more part of the group #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:23:24 |
In the post she asks " can u force people to have fun"? Ts feel they have prepared something FUN & everyone should buy into it. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:23:35 |
@David__Boughton Yes as they seem to translate into 'fun lessons' #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:23:37 |
RT @Marisa_C: Objectives of games fo YL's have a lot to do with their cognitive developement as well as languag #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:23:42 |
RT @David__Boughton: looking like people are saying interesting, challenging, engaging, are all more imp than "fun" #eltchat Aren’t they? |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:23:42 |
RT @David__Boughton: It's looking like people are saying interesting, challenging, engaging, are all more important than "fun" #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:24:19 |
@elawassell I often feel that teaching is fun and probably say this to sts. #eltchat |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:24:21 |
@SueAnnan #eltchat Here (Germany) we're often told never say 'games' to adults, say activities. Idea of games being frivolous/waste of time |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:24:26 |
@Shaunwilden @David__Boughton I would say so. Is there any learning in 'fun'? Not always! #ELTchat |
| David__Boughton |
2014-06-25T20:24:27 |
@Shaunwilden Yes, I think so too! #eltchat |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T20:25:02 |
I think a task had a greater impact on me as a student when I responded 'wow' or 'hm' rather than 'haha' #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2014-06-25T20:25:14 |
@designerlessons True, it depends on the context and the learners. Some learners feel embarrassed 'letting go'. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:25:14 |
RT @HanaTicha: I think a task had a greater impact on me as a student when I responded 'wow' or 'hm' rather than 'haha' #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:25:19 |
RT @HanaTicha: I think a task had a greater impact on me as a student when I responded 'wow' or 'hm' rather than 'haha' #eltchat |
| Ven_VVE |
2014-06-25T20:25:51 |
RT @HanaTicha: I think a task had a greater impact on me as a student when I responded 'wow' or 'hm' rather than 'haha' #eltchat |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:25:59 |
RT @David__Boughton: It's looking like people are saying interesting, challenging, engaging, are all more important than "fun" #eltchat |
| Notyetlanguage |
2014-06-25T20:26:17 |
@David__Boughton #eltchat This is because an activity can be fun, but not very useful for learning English or engaging cognitively. |
| angelos_bollas |
2014-06-25T20:26:18 |
@EdLaur @Marisa_C does 'fun' mean laughs only? 'Engaging' is fun. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:26:25 |
@languageeteach @designerlessons SOm Ss just don't want to open up by nature and are quite happy with that. They just want to learn #eltchat |
| anasainzc |
2014-06-25T20:26:27 |
RT @angelos_bollas: @EdLaur @Marisa_C does 'fun' mean laughs only? 'Engaging' is fun. #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:26:31 |
But back to the "u need to put in effort/work message" - ts need to balance the important fun with that #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:26:43 |
@languageeteach hey that’s Clare isn’t it -hello :-) #eltchat |
| designerlessons |
2014-06-25T20:26:44 |
If you ask adult learners to list reasons why theyre in the class,they likely wont list "to have fun."Fun is a product not an aim #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:26:46 |
@HanaTicha but isn't 'fun' different to 'funny'? #eltchat |
| elawassell |
2014-06-25T20:27:06 |
@SueAnnan yes! Useful is a key word! I ask Ss "what have you learned today?" #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:27:22 |
RT @angelos_bollas: @EdLaur @Marisa_C does 'fun' mean laughs only? 'Engaging' is fun. #eltchat > not it doesn't true |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:27:29 |
@elawassell @SueAnnan And when they say nothing what do you reply ;-) #eltchat |
| anasainzc |
2014-06-25T20:27:38 |
I would say fun is a tool for engagement #eltchat |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T20:27:52 |
RT @KateLloyd05: @HanaTicha but isn't 'fun' different to 'funny'? #eltchat > Yes, there is. But I still associate smile/laughter with fun/ny |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:28:00 |
RT @anasainzc: I would say fun is a tool for engagement #eltchat assuming sts are engaged by fun |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:28:03 |
RT @anasainzc: I would say fun is a tool for engagement #eltchat > tool that should be balanced |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:28:08 |
Repetitive games can be boring too! Variety alone, whatever the activity can mean fun #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:28:19 |
@Shaunwilden @elawassell I haven't experienced that so far. Not sure :-) #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2014-06-25T20:28:19 |
@naomishema And teachers feel they have to behave and act a certain way - lots of jazz hands and swinging from the chandeliers #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:28:50 |
@languageeteach @naomishema Lol #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:29:00 |
@designerlessons some of my adults say that fun is an added benefit. Part of feeling very that time flies but also of good feeling. #eltchat |
| Ven_VVE |
2014-06-25T20:29:01 |
RT @KateLloyd05: @HanaTicha but isn't 'fun' different to 'funny'? #eltchat > but both can make you laugh |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:29:03 |
@angelos_bollas #eltchat not always in the fun/ laugh/ feel good sense. A serious documentary can lead to amazing class, but maybe not fun |
| elawassell |
2014-06-25T20:29:04 |
@Shaunwilden @SueAnnan ha! I'll tell you when it happens. #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2014-06-25T20:29:08 |
@Shaunwilden Hi Dad. I remember you being one of the most fun teachers out there - sometimes it was intimidating! #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:29:14 |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @designerlessons some of my adults say that fun is an added benefit. Part of feeling very that time flies but also of … |
| Salman10054 |
2014-06-25T20:29:15 |
RT @profesortbaker: #RT #CHI #USA RT►http://t.co/8ri9PJbLmx► #Chile NationalEnglishTest #asmsg #teachers #ELLCHAT #edu #elt #pypchat #esl #… |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:29:22 |
In post auction activity is mentioned. Ss begin clowning with items. everybody laughing but not progressing with activity in Eng. #eltchat |
| Romdhanifaten |
2014-06-25T20:29:41 |
Reflections, Hopes and Experiences of a Teacher : Art in ELT http://t.co/JXptDU37Lt #ELT #EltChat #TESOL #ESOL |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:29:47 |
@naomishema think the problems come when we replace aims with 'fun' #eltchat |
| elawassell |
2014-06-25T20:29:48 |
@SueAnnan @Shaunwilden exactly! Never happened. #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:29:57 |
RT @KateLloyd05: @naomishema think the problems come when we replace aims with 'fun' #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2014-06-25T20:30:04 |
@EdLaur I think it has to do w/ definitions. We mean the same thing, though #eltchat |
| dp_etr |
2014-06-25T20:30:07 |
Turn Real World Environment into Engaging Language Learning Opportunity http://t.co/WH5YMIcHem #ellchat #esl #elearning #ELTchat #langchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:30:10 |
@elawassell @SueAnnan i was just injecting some fun into the #eltchat ;-) |
| Jemtreinta |
2014-06-25T20:30:12 |
RT @Marisa_C: Objectives of games fo YL's have a lot to do with their cognitive developement as well as languag #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:30:30 |
@Shaunwilden @elawassell sure you were :-) #eltchat |
| TESOLacademic |
2014-06-25T20:30:43 |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @anasainzc: I would say fun is a tool for engagement #eltchat assuming sts are engaged by fun |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:31:04 |
@anasainzc #eltchat I agree. One of many. |
| elawassell |
2014-06-25T20:31:06 |
@Shaunwilden @SueAnnan objective achieved :-) #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:31:14 |
New thought. Is it necessary to have group that gets along before it's possible to even have fun? Maybe that's the key. #eltchat |
| Notyetlanguage |
2014-06-25T20:31:15 |
@languageeteach @Marisa_C #eltchat True, games are great for fostering team spirit and creating a postive atmosphere. |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:31:38 |
Since the topics were tied, perhaps it should be half an hour 4 each as we seem to have reached agreement #eltchat |
| designerlessons |
2014-06-25T20:31:38 |
@MarjorieRosenbe absolutely, students should leave feeling like time has gone fast, that they've learned a lot, that it was fun #eltchat 1/2 |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:31:46 |
For those of you who haven't read the post which inspired @naomishema here it is http://t.co/ISQRMFPeph #eltchat |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:32:12 |
@languageeteach #eltchat So true! Love those Jazz Hands!! ;-) |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:32:19 |
RT @Marisa_C: For those of you who haven't read the post which inspired @naomishema here it is http://t.co/ISQRMFPeph #eltchat |
| David__Boughton |
2014-06-25T20:32:27 |
RT @Marisa_C: For those of you who haven't read the post which inspired @naomishema here it is http://t.co/gb2d1ZSRiO #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:32:43 |
back to what i said as #eltchat started, as a trainer, I dislike it when tchers say on to the fun stuff, implying what came before wasn’t |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:33:05 |
@designerlessons @MarjorieRosenbe But should they really? Always? The length of the course could make a diff too #eltchat |
| David__Boughton |
2014-06-25T20:33:13 |
@MarjorieRosenbe Group dynamics are often the most important factor. Great point! #eltchat |
| designerlessons |
2014-06-25T20:33:20 |
@MarjorieRosenbe if activities are boring/monotonous and don't engage, the learners will switch off. fun is a social lubricant #eltchat 2/2 |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:33:26 |
have classes of teens next week,unusually. want them to learn n be engaged. don't want them to be bored, but fun is by product #eltchat |
| elawassell |
2014-06-25T20:33:34 |
@MarjorieRosenbe true. At the beginning of the course a dose of ice-breaking activities is very helpful. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:33:36 |
RT @David__Boughton: @MarjorieRosenbe Group dynamics are often the most important factor. Great point! #eltchat Games help build teams too |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:34:02 |
@David__Boughton @MarjorieRosenbe That's true, a great lesson can go pear shape given a bad vibe in the class #eltchat |
| LauraSoracco |
2014-06-25T20:34:13 |
Today's #ELTchat makes me realize my def. of fun while learning is be very general. Fun = enjoyment, not looking at your watch every 5min. |
| elawassell |
2014-06-25T20:34:23 |
RT @Shaunwilden: back to what i said as #eltchat started, as a trainer, I dislike it when tchers say on to the fun stuff, implying what ca… |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:34:42 |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @David__Boughton: @MarjorieRosenbe Group dynamics are often the most important factor. Great point! #eltchat Games help bu… |
| languageeteach |
2014-06-25T20:34:49 |
@Shaunwilden I made the mistake of trying a tried and tested 'fun' routine when I started teaching ESOL. I scared the SS, I think! #eltchat |
| David__Boughton |
2014-06-25T20:35:02 |
@Marisa_C Yes, but I have seen them tear groups down too. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:35:23 |
Old blog post of mine on games in the YL class http://t.co/YtTeoVTrtO #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:35:34 |
group bonding is a very important part of teacher role #ELTchat |
| designerlessons |
2014-06-25T20:35:46 |
@HadaLitim @MarjorieRosenbe depends on what you consider "fun" to be. Making activities engaging/interesting is 100%part of the job #eltchat |
| Ven_VVE |
2014-06-25T20:35:52 |
@LauraSoracco yes, when ss say, oh, is class already over, we didn't realize - good feeling. But hopefully not just because fun. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:35:59 |
Is a fun lesson, 'fun' for the Ss AND teacher or can it be 'fun' for the Ss and hard work for the T? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:36:03 |
@David__Boughton Why did this happen - competition? age group? #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:36:07 |
RT @SueAnnan: group bonding is a very important part of teacher role #ELTchat > what size of class? Even 40? |
| David__Boughton |
2014-06-25T20:36:07 |
@Shaunwilden "Let's do something fun now" - Great point, and some language to watch out for when teaching. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:36:08 |
@languageeteach Yes I can imagine - different contexts and motivations I would guess #eltchat Btw hows the book doing? |
| stephentimothy |
2014-06-25T20:36:36 |
RT @designerlessons: @MarjorieRosenbe absolutely, students should leave feeling like time has gone fast, that they've learned a lot, that i… |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:36:38 |
@Shaunwilden Agree. Fun is just a natural part of the lesson like engagement, a ha feelings of understanding etc. #eltchat |
| designerlessons |
2014-06-25T20:36:44 |
@HadaLitim @MarjorieRosenbe but that doesn't necessarily mean playng games, and telling jokes #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:37:05 |
RT @designerlessons: @HadaLitim @MarjorieRosenbe depends on what you consider "fun" to be. Making activities engaging/interesting is 100%pa… |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:37:11 |
@designerlessons @MarjorieRosenbe I'm with @HadaLitim, not sure if fun is essential. #eltchat Not every day! |
| languageeteach |
2014-06-25T20:37:14 |
@Shaunwilden I avoid saying anything is fun in case the Ss don't find it so. If they do, great, but it's not what I'm aiming for. #eltchat |
| LauraSoracco |
2014-06-25T20:37:21 |
Defining "fun" in ELT depends on our learners. It would not be appropriate to play games in my classes, but we can still have fun. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:37:22 |
@naomishema I think so, but have no experience of such large groups #eltchat |
| angelos_bollas |
2014-06-25T20:37:26 |
@SueAnnan and it can be a life savior! Especially with YL and more mature adults #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:37:30 |
I think there are teachers who can make the most serious stuff look exciting and fun to do - it doesn't always involve games #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:37:35 |
RT @LauraSoracco: Defining "fun" in ELT depends on our learners. It would not be appropriate to play games in my classes, but we can still … |
| anasainzc |
2014-06-25T20:37:40 |
RT @Marisa_C: I think there are teachers who can make the most serious stuff look exciting and fun to do - it doesn't always involve games … |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:37:40 |
@HadaLitim @designerlessons Absolutely. And the length also has effect on rapport. #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:37:41 |
RT @Marisa_C: I think there are teachers who can make the most serious stuff look exciting and fun to do - it doesn't always involve games … |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:37:43 |
RT @EdLaur: @designerlessons @MarjorieRosenbe I'm with @HadaLitim, not sure if fun is essential. #eltchat Not every day! |
| languageeteach |
2014-06-25T20:37:56 |
@Shaunwilden Out at the end of July, I think. You can pre-order your copy now! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:38:14 |
@LauraSoracco was thinking the same when i wrote my comment :-) #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:38:24 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @designerlessons This is what I found teaching on a Uni foundation course once - tough task keeping it fun #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:38:24 |
@MarjorieRosenbe What’s the learning styles take on fun? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:38:44 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @MarjorieRosenbe What’s the learning styles take on fun? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:38:57 |
@Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe Interesting question #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:39:05 |
"you can plan fun, fun is the same for everyone, you can force people to have fun"- these are the fallacies stated. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:39:05 |
@Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe wouldn't risk takers and extroverts be more likely to enjoy games? #eltchat |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:39:06 |
@LauraSoracco #eltchat Hi L! Does it depend though on the age/ course? Uni Ss can have rewarding/ engaging but serious lesson. |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T20:39:10 |
@Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe Variety #eltchat |
| designerlessons |
2014-06-25T20:39:13 |
@EdLaur @MarjorieRosenbe @HadaLitim the moment a teacher sets out 2 have fun, they've lost the way,but being engaging is essential #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:39:35 |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe Yes, and introverts cringe at the thought of them #eltchat |
| LauraSoracco |
2014-06-25T20:39:49 |
What do fun classes look like in your context? in mine, Ss have had fun with debates #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:39:52 |
@David__Boughton So perhaps the team building must come FIRST before team/competitive games #eltchat |
| Ven_VVE |
2014-06-25T20:39:55 |
@LauraSoracco do you mean in EAP classes? I have games in those as well, but usually just as warmers/fillers. Topic related. #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2014-06-25T20:39:55 |
@David__Boughton @Shaunwilden It's like saying 'something's easy' or 'difficult'. We have to be careful of making assumptions. #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:40:28 |
@HadaLitim @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe introverts cringe -that's one of the worries, you can't force people 2 have fun #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:40:42 |
RT @naomishema: @HadaLitim @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe introverts cringe -that's one of the worries, you can't force people 2 h… |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:40:43 |
RT @naomishema: @HadaLitim @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe introverts cringe -that's one of the worries, you can't force people 2 h… |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:40:49 |
Looks like we've moved from fun to importance of group dynamics & cohesion. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:40:49 |
RT @languageeteach: @David__Boughton @Shaunwilden It's like saying 'something's easy' or 'difficult'. We have to be careful of making assum… |
| nostradamuspeak |
2014-06-25T20:40:54 |
RT @Marisa_C: I think there are teachers who can make the most serious stuff look exciting and fun to do - it doesn't always involve games … |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T20:41:12 |
So it's not wise to incorporate fun artificially into a lesson - but I'd always welcome it as an essential by-product #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2014-06-25T20:41:16 |
@Shaunwilden I haven't been paid anything. Need the dosh. #eltchat |
| designerlessons |
2014-06-25T20:41:29 |
@HadaLitim @MarjorieRosenbe some will just be hard work. Sts expect that - but the relief comes with interesting prod. activities #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:41:34 |
@MarjorieRosenbe Team games rely on good group dynamics though don't they #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:41:34 |
RT @HanaTicha: So it's not wise to incorporate fun artificially into a lesson - but I'd always welcome it as an essential by-product #eltch… |
| LauraSoracco |
2014-06-25T20:41:38 |
@EdLaur Hola! Yes, depends on age and course. Serious can equal fun, too. Example, conducting a survey & learning something unusual #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:41:53 |
@MarjorieRosenbe Yes and we had a good chat about that not too long ago. Cohesion's so important #eltchat |
| elawassell |
2014-06-25T20:42:11 |
RT @HanaTicha: So it's not wise to incorporate fun artificially into a lesson - but I'd always welcome it as an essential by-product #eltch… |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:42:22 |
@Shaunwilden wow, don't vthink there is one answer here. Learning in preferred style is comfortable, is that fun? Maybe. #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:42:27 |
@designerlessons Ah, but DO the students expect the hard work part? that's the worry. #eltchat |
| elawassell |
2014-06-25T20:42:42 |
@HanaTicha well said! #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:43:07 |
RT @elawassell: @HanaTicha well said! #eltchat agreed :-) |
| designerlessons |
2014-06-25T20:43:09 |
@HadaLitim @MarjorieRosenbe as has been said by others, engaging, interesting & useful add up to a positive learning experience #eltchat |
| LauraSoracco |
2014-06-25T20:43:15 |
@Ven_VVE Hi V! Yes, me too when teaching EAP prep. Time is limited w/ current class and I think Ss might not take games too well. #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2014-06-25T20:43:16 |
@naomishema @HadaLitim @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe I haven't always had 'fun' studying but I've still enjoyed lessons #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:43:26 |
RT @languageeteach: @naomishema @HadaLitim @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe I haven't always had 'fun' studying but I've still enjo… |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:43:26 |
@naomishema @designerlessons Back to background and motivation #eltchat |
| David__Boughton |
2014-06-25T20:43:38 |
@Marisa_C Makes sense! Great point. #eltchat |
| Ven_VVE |
2014-06-25T20:43:56 |
@naomishema @designerlessons it might be a good idea to clarify expectations at the beginning of the course. #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:44:02 |
RT @Ven_VVE: @naomishema @designerlessons it might be a good idea to clarify expectations at the beginning of the course. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:44:05 |
@designerlessons @MarjorieRosenbe Indeed! #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:44:13 |
RT @Ven_VVE: @naomishema @designerlessons it might be a good idea to clarify expectations at the beginning of the course. #eltchat |
| Notyetlanguage |
2014-06-25T20:44:23 |
#eltchat Studying a language is sometimes hard work, isn't it? You can have fun if you like what you're doing. |
| designerlessons |
2014-06-25T20:44:29 |
@naomishema if they don't, the school has mis-sold the course! :) Students have got to be prepared to work, i think #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:44:57 |
What about the TIMING of games in a lesson - or the 'fun factor' if you wish - how often and when ? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:44:58 |
@languageeteach @naomishema @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe One might enjoy a good book and hate a rollercoaster ride #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:45:14 |
@HadaLitim @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Depends on game I think. They all last ved creating ideal home. #eltchat http://t.co/eKHVB8lC8Y |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:45:16 |
@Ven_VVE @naomishema @designerlessons don't you do that as standard practice? #eltchat |
| David__Boughton |
2014-06-25T20:45:33 |
@Notyetlanguage Yes, and isn't the fun part when STs use the language? Out on the street, away from us teachers. #eltchat |
| LauraSoracco |
2014-06-25T20:45:41 |
@Marisa_C @MarjorieRosenbe is there a specific question to discuss related to group dynamics & cohesion? #ELTchat |
| designerlessons |
2014-06-25T20:45:47 |
RT @SueAnnan: @Ven_VVE @naomishema @designerlessons don't you do that as standard practice? #eltchat |
| designerlessons |
2014-06-25T20:45:51 |
RT @Ven_VVE: @naomishema @designerlessons it might be a good idea to clarify expectations at the beginning of the course. #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:46:00 |
Should have read 'all loved creating ideal home'. #eltchat |
| elawassell |
2014-06-25T20:46:19 |
RT @designerlessons: If you ask adult learners to list reasons why theyre in the class,they likely wont list "to have fun."Fun is a produc… |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T20:46:52 |
@Ven_VVE I used to ask YLs: What would you like to do in the course? - Play games! I'm wiser now - never ask this questiion :-) #eltchat |
| Ven_VVE |
2014-06-25T20:46:53 |
@SueAnnan @naomishema @designerlessons yes, but can't hurt 2 check what ss understand to be working hard. :) #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:46:56 |
Also think that respective of style most sts find kinesthetic activities 'fun'. #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:47:01 |
RT @HanaTicha: @Ven_VVE I used to ask YLs: What would you like to do in the course? - Play games! I'm wiser now - never ask this questiion … |
| languageeteach |
2014-06-25T20:47:05 |
@LauraSoracco Revision activities - good, e.g. a vocabulary box/bag and creating different activities, e.g. 'pass the bag' (parcel)#eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:47:12 |
@HanaTicha @Ven_VVE Lol! #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:47:25 |
@Marisa_C problem when fun is programmed for the end. Can also be disruptive in middle :-) #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:47:36 |
RT @SueAnnan: @Marisa_C problem when fun is programmed for the end. Can also be disruptive in middle :-) #eltchat |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:47:41 |
@David__Boughton @Notyetlanguage Exactly! Reward for the hard work!#eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:48:24 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C At the beginning can inject needed energy at times. Here 4pm classes are the worst! Game start is a must #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:48:44 |
@designerlessons I'm a school teacher, colors my perspective. Though have taught adult courses where they pay.#eltchat |
| MariHamill |
2014-06-25T20:48:46 |
RT @profesortbaker: #RT #CHI #USA RT►http://t.co/8ri9PJbLmx► #Chile NationalEnglishTest #asmsg #teachers #ELLCHAT #edu #elt #pypchat #esl #… |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T20:48:48 |
@Marisa_C I wouldn't assign a fixed time.. as they fit in - depending on the planned activities #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:48:50 |
@SueAnnan so what would you suggest ? #eltchat or play it by ear depending on topic or class |
| LauraSoracco |
2014-06-25T20:48:52 |
@languageeteach Good ideas! thanks. Fun ideas are often simple :) #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:49:01 |
@Marisa_C sometimes it's just the feeling that it's time to do sth different. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:49:10 |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @Marisa_C sometimes it's just the feeling that it's time to do sth different. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:49:26 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan Yes, definitely differes from class to class #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:49:40 |
i used to hate the promise of fun which never materialised as class overran. Play it by ear is best #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:49:50 |
RT @SueAnnan: i used to hate the promise of fun which never materialised as class overran. Play it by ear is best #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:50:07 |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @Marisa_C sometimes it's just the feeling that it's time to do sth different. #eltchat |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T20:50:08 |
RT @SueAnnan: i used to hate the promise of fun which never materialised as class overran. Play it by ear is best #eltchat |
| elawassell |
2014-06-25T20:50:14 |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @Marisa_C sometimes it's just the feeling that it's time to do sth different. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:50:20 |
So it looks like most of us have a balanced view of what games are good for and when or if to use fun activities - #eltchat |
| anasainzc |
2014-06-25T20:50:21 |
All these tweets are very inspirational. You guys are giving me lots of ideas for a post :) #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:50:41 |
@SueAnnan Agree. Sometimes other things just take over. #eltchat |
| elawassell |
2014-06-25T20:50:42 |
RT @SueAnnan: i used to hate the promise of fun which never materialised as class overran. Play it by ear is best #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2014-06-25T20:51:00 |
@MarjorieRosenbe Haven't learning styles largely been 'debunked'? Have been reading lots about VAK - see #vakoff , #vacuous etc #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:51:02 |
RT @anasainzc: You guys are giving me lots of ideas for a post :) #eltchat So maybe you can write the summary of the chat for us |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:51:11 |
What are some of the most successful fun activities, tools or apps you would like to share #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:51:17 |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @anasainzc: You guys are giving me lots of ideas for a post :) #eltchat So maybe you can write the summary of the chat … |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:51:28 |
RT @HanaTicha: @Marisa_C I wouldn't assign a fixed time.. as they fit in - depending on the planned activities #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:51:35 |
Besides games, what else can generate fun? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:51:48 |
RT @Marisa_C: What are some of the most successful fun activities, tools or apps you would like to share #eltchat |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:51:49 |
@HanaTicha @Marisa_C #eltchat Also depends on group age/ size/ lesson type/ Ss themselves. So many variables! |
| Notyetlanguage |
2014-06-25T20:51:53 |
@EdLaur @David__Boughton #eltchat Is there a dichotomy work - fun? Or work can be fun and fun can be work? Motivation makes it possible. |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:51:53 |
Creativity and encouraging sts can also be fun. I think alot depends on definition. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:52:03 |
@Marisa_C Was just thinking about that :D #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2014-06-25T20:52:16 |
@HanaTicha @Ven_VVE I had a group of kids who wanted to play the same game every lesson and it was a rubbish made-up-by-me game. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:52:18 |
@HadaLitim competition. Quizzes, tasks #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:52:24 |
@HadaLitim Solving mysteries and puzzles ? #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:52:32 |
@HadaLitim video clips, cartoons. #eltchat |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T20:52:52 |
@languageeteach @Ven_VVE So you obviously didn't have fun :-) #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:52:55 |
@Marisa_C Races Presentations #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:52:56 |
@languageeteach @HanaTicha @Ven_VVE Kids love repeated rituals am not surprised #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:52:57 |
@languageeteach @HanaTicha @Ven_VVE what was it? Sounds good! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:53:27 |
@HadaLitim Running dictation? #eltchat that s always a hit with us |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:53:28 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan #eltchat Often good to have a few as back-up to add at certain points if lesson falls a bit flat, but skip otherwise |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:53:36 |
@KateLloyd05 Role plays #eltchat |
| Ven_VVE |
2014-06-25T20:53:37 |
@Marisa_C My undergrads said they liked Quizlet. #eltchat |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T20:53:44 |
RT @EdLaur: @Marisa_C @SueAnnan #eltchat Often good to have a few as back-up to add at certain points if lesson falls a bit flat, but skip … |
| designerlessons |
2014-06-25T20:53:49 |
@naomishema ah, then that can be more difficult. If students are forced to be there expectations are often different from paying Ss #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:53:53 |
interviewing shoes #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:54:02 |
@languageeteach @HanaTicha @Ven_VVE my kids love variation of hangman with two sets of steps. Each wrong letter they go down steps #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2014-06-25T20:54:19 |
@SueAnnan So true! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:54:24 |
My own Ss like MAKING board games for other groups to play (based on templates I gave them) #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:54:24 |
@Marisa_C Be a machine. Each st plays different part of machine. Explain processes & functions. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:54:25 |
@Marisa_C Yes as well as correction races and comprehension races #eltchat Faves in my classes |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:54:33 |
I agree, Quizlet is an awesome example of work that can become fun. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:54:41 |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @Marisa_C Be a machine. Each st plays different part of machine. Explain processes & functions. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T20:54:42 |
@anasainzc @Marisa_C @HadaLitim @SueAnnan We have a summary writer offer, if you could send Ana the transcript and guidance #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:54:48 |
@languageeteach @HanaTicha @Ven_VVE at the bottom of steps is villain of their choosing to eat them, crocodile, shark, cactus..#eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:54:48 |
RT @Marisa_C: My own Ss like MAKING board games for other groups to play (based on templates I gave them) #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:55:00 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @anasainzc @Marisa_C @HadaLitim @SueAnnan We have a summary writer offer, if you could send Ana the transcript and guidanc… |
| Ven_VVE |
2014-06-25T20:55:08 |
RT @naomishema: I agree, Quizlet is an awesome example of work that can become fun. #eltchat |
| dianatremayne |
2014-06-25T20:55:25 |
I had a student today who came in v upset + angry. After charades he had shown diff between a chicken + a turkey + was laughing :) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:55:28 |
@Shaunwilden @anasainzc @Marisa_C @HadaLitim Will do. Just give it 10 minutes at the end and you'll have it #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:55:29 |
@Shaunwilden @anasainzc @HadaLitim @SueAnnan Great! #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:55:41 |
@Marisa_C did that last week with unmotivated, end of term teens. Loved it #eltchat |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T20:55:47 |
@Marisa_C Great! I love the creative element - creating sth finally becomes more interesting than the game itself #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:55:57 |
RT @HanaTicha: @Marisa_C Great! I love the creative element - creating sth finally becomes more interesting than the game itself #eltchat |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:55:58 |
@MarjorieRosenbe #eltchat I think definition is the tricky part. Wary of telling (new) Ts make lessons fun, may equate that with Games only |
| designerlessons |
2014-06-25T20:56:05 |
@SueAnnan the promise of a carrot that never comes! Kids get so angry if the game doesn't happen :) #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:56:07 |
Cooperative learning can be fun. Make ten of newspaper for whole group to fit in. #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:56:16 |
RT @designerlessons: @SueAnnan the promise of a carrot that never comes! Kids get so angry if the game doesn't happen :) #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:56:46 |
@MarjorieRosenbe tent? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:56:49 |
@HanaTicha also board games to check whole book like for exams - with great design ideas #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:56:58 |
At the end of a lesson Ss paint a huge graffiti on the IWB to express their understanding and feelings abt the topic #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:57:02 |
@EdLaur @MarjorieRosenbe make lessons engaging and student centres better #eltchat |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T20:57:05 |
@languageeteach @HanaTicha @Ven_VVE Maybe you can patent it and make millions!! #eltchat #ELTFantasy |
| dianatremayne |
2014-06-25T20:57:07 |
I don't think fun itself is a key aim but if people leave happier than they arrive + learn something I think that's pretty good #eltchat |
| designerlessons |
2014-06-25T20:57:11 |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: Creativity and encouraging sts can also be fun. I think alot depends on definition. #eltchat |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T20:57:17 |
@MarjorieRosenbe Yes. Or making vocabulary cards for others to play games with them later on. Good for revision and fun :-) #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:57:23 |
@anasainzc @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan Thank YOU! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:57:30 |
@dimodeca @HadaLitim @SueAnnan Usually allow a bit more time than what planned if ss engaged and producing - not just having fun #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T20:57:38 |
RT @dianatremayne: I don't think fun itself is a key aim but if people leave happier than they arrive + learn something I think that's pret… |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:57:44 |
Fun is also solving problems, writing fantasy stories about others, fortune telling, collecting info, etc. #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:57:53 |
RT @HadaLitim: At the end of a lesson Ss paint a huge graffiti on the IWB to express their understanding and feelings abt the topic #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:57:54 |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: Fun is also solving problems, writing fantasy stories about others, fortune telling, collecting info, etc. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:58:02 |
@dimodeca @Marisa_C @SueAnnan Depends on how much language the activity produces #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:58:31 |
@MarjorieRosenbe ooh that's an idea for my kids - make clothes of newspaper #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:58:40 |
RT @dianatremayne: I don't think fun itself is a key aim but if people leave happier than they arrive + learn something I think that's pret… |
| languageeteach |
2014-06-25T20:59:01 |
@Marisa_C Pronunciation poems can be "fun". I like getting Ss to perform them, standing up and sitting down when it's their turn. #eltchat |
| KateLloyd05 |
2014-06-25T20:59:02 |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: Cooperative learning can be fun. Make ten of newspaper for whole group to fit in. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:59:11 |
2mins DO we get extra time tonight? ;) #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T20:59:12 |
@Marisa_C Great idea. Love it! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T20:59:15 |
@MarjorieRosenbe Fantasy stories are great - especially chain stories where stories are passed round every minute or so #eltchat |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T20:59:21 |
@MarjorieRosenbe Exactly. Anything can be fun is well-designed. But if collaboration and creativity included and needed=perfect!! #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T20:59:28 |
board grabs are fun too #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T20:59:47 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C Yes, love it too. Will try this #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T21:00:12 |
@SueAnnan What are they Sue? #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T21:00:23 |
@SueAnnan What r board grabs? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T21:00:27 |
RT @HanaTicha: @MarjorieRosenbe Exactly. Anything can be fun is well-designed. But if collaboration and creativity included and needed=perf… |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T21:00:41 |
RT @HanaTicha: @MarjorieRosenbe Exactly. Anything can be fun is well-designed. But if collaboration and creativity included and needed=perf… |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T21:00:49 |
My students have fun even reading the same boring dialogue is you say read it SLYLY or LAZILY or CRAZILY or SHYLY etc #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T21:01:07 |
@SueAnnan though always with a word of warning, my colleague played that in a workshop and a teacher ended up hospitalised #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T21:01:11 |
@MarjorieRosenbe Wow! Sounds exciting. Is this with YLs? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T21:02:06 |
The hour has passed….#eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T21:02:09 |
@Shaunwilden really. must have been rowdy lot #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T21:02:13 |
@Shaunwilden @SueAnnan Lol don't know the game sounds dangerous! #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T21:02:16 |
@SueAnnan Sounds like fun! #eltchat |
| HanaTicha |
2014-06-25T21:02:20 |
@Shaunwilden @SueAnnan Yes. Games can be dangerous if too interesting. Ss even get hurt! #eltchat |
| dianatremayne |
2014-06-25T21:02:24 |
@SueAnnan @naomishema can be v competitive - ss get carried away sometimes! #eltchat |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T21:02:26 |
@SueAnnan don't u have ss fighting over a card as in I touched it first? #eltchat U see I'm a school teacher.. |
| languageeteach |
2014-06-25T21:02:28 |
@HadaLitim Great idea .If you want to use tech, they can post their responses via their mobiles onto a #padlet wall. Did that today #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-25T21:02:55 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan teacher was too eager and tripped, split head open on the pen holder part of the board #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T21:03:16 |
@HanaTicha @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan With races, my Ss (all women) usually take their shoes off ;) #eltchat |
| Notyetlanguage |
2014-06-25T21:03:36 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat My students definitely have fun with Jeopardy. We don't always play it as a competitive game. Useful for revision. |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T21:03:40 |
@HadaLitim Which one? I've done the tent in teacher training. A bit like the bridge done for team building in firms. #eltchat |
| languageeteach |
2014-06-25T21:04:01 |
@naomishema And classtoolsnet - the dustbin one goes down well usually. #eltchat |
| Ven_VVE |
2014-06-25T21:04:15 |
@languageeteach @HadaLitim Yes, Padlet is another one mine liked. Engaging and fun. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T21:04:16 |
@Notyetlanguage love jeopardy #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T21:04:20 |
@languageeteach Two of my classes did one today too on Consumerism and shared them on WhatsApp - some great work there #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T21:04:22 |
@languageeteach @naomishema yes the dustbin is fun #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T21:04:34 |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @HadaLitim Which one? I've done the tent in teacher training. A bit like the bridge done for team building in firms. #… |
| Marisa_C |
2014-06-25T21:04:37 |
RT @languageeteach: @naomishema And classtoolsnet - the dustbin one goes down well usually. #eltchat > great site |
| naomishema |
2014-06-25T21:04:46 |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @languageeteach: @naomishema And classtoolsnet - the dustbin one goes down well usually. #eltchat > great site |
| EdLaur |
2014-06-25T21:04:49 |
Thanks all! Very enjoyable chat. #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
2014-06-25T21:04:55 |
Great chat everyone but teaching tomorrow so off to bed. Have a great summer all. :-)#eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-25T21:05:35 |
Night everyone. time to wrap up? will sort out transcript now #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-25T21:05:40 |
@EdLaur Thanks Laura - missed this week's eltchinwag so happy to see you here. Have a great summer and 'chat around soon' #eltchat |
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