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Should Everything in class be fun eltchat 24th June 2014

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Marisa_C 2014-06-25T19:57:29 @naomishema Well, we have decided to vote in the #ELtchat itself - vote closed about an hr ago - tie btwn Fun and Juggling work & home
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T19:57:57 RT @Marisa_C: @naomishema Well, we have decided to vote in the #ELtchat itself - vote closed about an hr ago - tie btwn Fun and Juggling wo…
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T19:58:01 I agree. I was surprised you sounded FRench :-) #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T19:58:33 @SueAnnan summarised it nicely - Work-Life Balance or Fun in class #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T19:58:50 @SueAnnan also wanted to ask which topic made it. #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T19:58:54 @naomishema Hi Naomi - our very own puffin :D thanks petal - it was fun to do with Sandy. Would love to hear you too ! #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T19:58:56 Okay my vote is for work-life balance #eLTchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T19:59:08 RT @Marisa_C: @SueAnnan summarised it nicely - Work-Life Balance or Fun in class #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T19:59:31 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan If the authors of the posts join that could tip the scale. @LeonieOverbeek or @kevchanwow #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T19:59:34 @MarjorieRosenbe voting again as poll was tied. Work-life balance or fun in class? #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T19:59:45 @SueAnnan Lol! Because I am hehe but then again not everyone gets it #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:00:07 My vote goes to the fun topic :-) #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:00:25 @SueAnnan <3 #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:00:50 Should everything in class be fun? Is there a price to be paid for making sure students report your lessons as fun? #eltchat @Shaunwilden
HanaTicha 2014-06-25T20:00:53 Hi #eltchat I vote for Fun then :-)
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:01:21 @Marisa_C No I hate it when teachers say now for the fun stuff #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:01:35 Time management & teacher’s lives ; juggling work, CPD, family and sleep! that;s the other topic #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:02:12 @Shaunwilden Did I miss someone that deserves a big Mazal Tov?!! Apologies! #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:02:14 @Marisa_C Ok fun then #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:02:17 @Shaunwilden we haven't voted yet :-) #eltchat which topic do you vote for?
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:02:45 @Marisa_C Juggling! A timely topic for me #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:02:46 Okay let's go with fun #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:02:58 @SueAnnan Ooops #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:03:29 I suggested them both after reading the two posts, so I'm at a "tie" #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:03:50 So what do you mean by fun anyway? #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:04:05 Evening all. What's the decision then? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:04:35 @KateLloyd05 Which one do you go for Kate? #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:05:42 @Marisa_C can't remember which one I voted for. #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:06:06 @SueAnnan Lessons that entertain Ss? #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:06:13 @KateLloyd05 Just choose again :-) #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:06:17 Waiting #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:06:23 RT @elawassell: My vote goes for "fun" topic. But not necessarily the fun itself. :-) #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:06:32 @Marisa_C The plot thickens #eltchat
anasainzc 2014-06-25T20:06:38 Hi guys! Am I late? #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:06:47 @Marisa_C looks like we're talking about fun #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:07:08 as we seem to be talking about fun already, lets stick with that. #eltchat
elawassell 2014-06-25T20:07:09 @Shaunwilden yep - was just going to add the #eltchat hashtag :-) Ta!
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:07:18 @anasainzc Hi Ana, no, just in time #eltchat
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:07:31 Evening, #eltchat.
anasainzc 2014-06-25T20:07:38 @HadaLitim Great! #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:07:46 is there a difference between Teens, YL and Adults when it comes to making lessons fun? #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:07:48 @EdLaur Hi Laura, welcome back #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:07:55 @KateLloyd05 @Marisa_C and I thinkbi voted for a different one. I'm fine with either. #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:07:57 RT @SueAnnan: is there a difference between Teens, YL and Adults when it comes to making lessons fun? #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:08:43 @SueAnnan I think it depends on the nationality and culture too #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:09:02 How about we pick one and start off in fall with other one? #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:09:13 In the post @LeonieOverbeek writes abt not getting the message across to the ss that some thing need hard work, not everything fun #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:09:19 @SueAnnan I'd say yes #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:09:29 Does everything have to be fun to motivate? #eltchat Is there a justification for always turning things into games?
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:09:32 @HadaLitim #eltchat Thanks! Going for hat trick this week. Eltchinwag Monday, Edchatde last night...Need all the inspiration I can get!
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:09:52 @naomishema @LeonieOverbeek I often have to remind my students about this #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:10:01 Remember this is our last #ELTchat before we have a summer break
KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:10:08 @naomishema @LeonieOverbeek ah u mean like 'edutainment'? #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:10:13 does fun have to mean games ?@Marisa_C #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:10:14 Also some administrators want to hear SS report that lessons are fun, pressure on ts #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:10:26 @EdLaur Le Grand Schlem! #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:10:35 RT @Marisa_C: Remember this is our last #ELTchat before we have a summer break
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:10:41 RT @KateLloyd05: @naomishema @LeonieOverbeek ah u mean like 'edutainment'? #eltchat > kindof, yes,
HanaTicha 2014-06-25T20:10:43 @Marisa_C Smething can be challenging, gripping, for example - fun is not a prerequisite for effectve learning #eltchat
David__Boughton 2014-06-25T20:10:43 @MarjorieRosenbe Is this last #eltchat of the school year?
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:10:45 RT @KateLloyd05: @naomishema @LeonieOverbeek ah u mean like 'edutainment'? #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:10:51 RT @HanaTicha: @Marisa_C Smething can be challenging, gripping, for example - fun is not a prerequisite for effectve learning #eltchat
elawassell 2014-06-25T20:10:53 RT @SueAnnan: is there a difference between Teens, YL and Adults when it comes to making lessons fun? #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:10:55 @KateLloyd05 @SueAnnan I also think it depends on the teacher and the rapport he/she has with the sts. #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2014-06-25T20:10:58 @SueAnnan I think yes! Fun is connected with interest. Different ages, different interests. #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:11:04 @naomishema It's good for business #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:11:11 @naomishema And somd admins hate it when kids report "We didn't do anything today we were just playing games" #eltchat - local cultures!
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:11:21 RT @Marisa_C: @naomishema And somd admins hate it when kids report "We didn't do anything today we were just playing games" #eltchat - loca…
KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:11:22 @SueAnnan @Marisa_C is fun different to engaging? #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:11:43 RT @KateLloyd05: @SueAnnan @Marisa_C is fun different to engaging? #eltchat > different, I think
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:11:48 @David__Boughton @MarjorieRosenbe Yes it is #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:11:48 Have we already defined what 'fun' is? #eltchat
David__Boughton 2014-06-25T20:11:53 @Marisa_C When students are paying for the classes, it seems there is more pressure ot make it fun. #eltchat
anasainzc 2014-06-25T20:11:54 I think we have to find the point or the balance between fun and challeging. Of course it is not a piece of cake #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:12:00 @HanaTicha @Marisa_C Sadly, some Ss sometimes seem to think it is #eltchat
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:12:33 @SueAnnan @Marisa_C #eltchat Good question! With my adults, fun often means chatting and not being asked to read/ do grammar!
KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:12:34 @MarjorieRosenbe @SueAnnan agree. Personality is key #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:12:42 @David__Boughton @Marisa_C This is definitely true with GE but not so much with EAP #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2014-06-25T20:13:04 @Marisa_C it doesn't 'have to' I suppose. It is a means to an end, though, isn't it? #ELTchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:13:21 @Marisa_C sometimes it's more of ffective to make it personal or emotional - that's not always fun. #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:13:30 I think students being engaged is more important #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:13:34 @SueAnnan @Marisa_C Not always, a good topic  can sometimes mean the difference between fun and boring #eltchat
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:13:41 @HanaTicha #eltchat So true! And Challenging / gripping etc is often more rewarding for Ss too!
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:13:47 RT @SueAnnan: I think students being engaged is more important #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:13:58 RT @EdLaur: @HanaTicha #eltchat So true! And Challenging / gripping etc is often more rewarding for Ss too!
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:13:59 RT @SueAnnan: I think students being engaged is more important #eltchat
elawassell 2014-06-25T20:14:35 RT @SueAnnan: I think students being engaged is more important #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:14:43 @HadaLitim @Marisa_C  You can't please all the people all of the time though #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:14:50 RT @naomishema: I see engaged as being involved and "getting" the work being done. It doesn't mean laughing or competitveness #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:15:09 @SueAnnan agree. It could be fun but can also be concentration, curiosity etc as driving force. #eltchat
HanaTicha 2014-06-25T20:15:12 @EdLaur Yes. And I think that completing a seemingly boring task can be rewarding > fun in the end #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:15:25 @SueAnnan @Marisa_C Yes that's true #eltchat
anasainzc 2014-06-25T20:15:26 RT @HanaTicha: @EdLaur Yes. And I think that completing a seemingly boring task can be rewarding > fun in the end #eltchat
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:15:40 @HadaLitim @naomishema #eltchat Sometimes you're told  do whatever keeps the Ss booking more classes, regardless of whether it's effective.
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:15:55 @HanaTicha @EdLaur So rewarding can equate fun Hana? #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:16:06 In the post @LeonieOverbeek warns of the danger of TELLING the ss that learning is fun. #eltchat
Notyetlanguage 2014-06-25T20:16:17 @David__Boughton @Marisa_C #eltchat true - but if we speak about adult learners there is also more pressure to learn fast.
HanaTicha 2014-06-25T20:16:17 @HadaLitim @EdLaur For me, personally yes #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:16:40 Thinking about it, maybe we just need to ensure emotions of any kind to help learning. Learning with heart & not just head . #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:16:56 @naomishema  I am often guilty of telling students it's easy ..#eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:17:01 What is the effect of games on the emotions and intellect? Perhaps we should be talking abt this #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:17:01 @EdLaur @naomishema yes, in some centres all it gets is a T being compared to another as being more fun and the pbs start #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:17:14 @HanaTicha @EdLaur I agree #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:17:15 RT @Marisa_C: What is the effect of games on the emotions and intellect? Perhaps we should be talking abt this #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:17:20 RT @SueAnnan: @naomishema  I am often guilty of telling students it's easy ..#eltchat > not the same as fun, though
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:17:32 @HadaLitim @David__Boughton @Marisa_C True. Totally different motivation there. #eltchat
anasainzc 2014-06-25T20:18:16 I think fun means challeging. If you just base your lessons on fun it can be a disaster bcause the don't take it seriously #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:18:19 @naomishema @SueAnnan What do you mean? #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:18:28 @naomishema but it does lighten the class #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:18:33 I teach struggling learners. I know it is good to present new vocab in fun way, but then they need drill/prctce to remember #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:18:43 RT @naomishema: I teach struggling learners. I know it is good to present new vocab in fun way, but then they need drill/prctce to remember…
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:18:47 @Marisa_C Jst looked at motivation in last blog post. Still not sure how much influence ts have on motivation.  #eltchat
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:19:21 @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C #eltchat I don't think so. 'Engaging' tasks can be problem solving/ project work / sth creative. Don't need laughs
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:19:48 @SueAnnan @HadaLitim @Marisa_C Justcread evaluations. What sts like & don't like are games. Most do but some don't.  #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:19:59 @naomishema 'Easy' as in 'achievable' which can make a big difference in Ss' motivation and enjoyment  #eltchat
HanaTicha 2014-06-25T20:20:18 I have classes where I simply can't teach in the 'fun' way - it'd disctract the ss and spoil the lesson  #eltchat
designerlessons 2014-06-25T20:20:21 Sometimes "fun" is seen as trivial and therefore a waste of time. Engaging, challenging, worthwhile are key, fun is secondary  4 me #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:20:29 I would have difficulty selling the idea of games to some of my adults #eltchat
Notyetlanguage 2014-06-25T20:20:31 @Marisa_C #eltchat About emotions, not all students can accept losing in a competitive game. But still it's fun during the game.
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:20:42 @naomishema  #eltchat Sorry, I haven't read the post. Was it referring to kids/teens? Or all learners?
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:21:05 @HadaLitim easy as achievable yes, but that doesn't mean u didn't invent effort. #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:21:14 @MarjorieRosenbe @SueAnnan @Marisa_C Interesting and not surprising #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:21:23 RT @naomishema: @HadaLitim easy as achievable yes, but that doesn't mean u didn't invent effort. #eltchat
elawassell 2014-06-25T20:21:35 1of the Qs I usually ask myself after a lesson: Was it interesting? Now thinking about it I never noted : that was fun. #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:21:49 @EdLaur @naomishema All learners Laura #eltchat
elawassell 2014-06-25T20:22:02 RT @EdLaur: @angelos_bollas @Marisa_C #eltchat I don't think so. 'Engaging' tasks can be problem solving/ project work / sth creative. Don'…
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:22:18 @SueAnnan Most of my adults love games but depends on group. Played musical chairs with govt officials for example. #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:22:23 Here's link http://t.co/KgJTqhE9PB… I think school children mainly #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:22:32 @elawassell I agree. I always ask my students if the lesson was useful, engaging etc, but not usually 'fun' #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:22:42 @elawassell I too but I also often ask my Ss and this isn't necessarily after games. Helps me gauge what they find 'fun' #eltchat
David__Boughton 2014-06-25T20:23:00 It's looking like people are saying interesting, challenging, engaging, are all more important than "fun" #eltchat
Notyetlanguage 2014-06-25T20:23:04 @designerlessons  #eltchat I totally agree:)
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:23:05 Objectives of games fo YL's have a lot to do with their cognitive developement as well as languag #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:23:09 RT @David__Boughton: It's looking like people are saying interesting, challenging, engaging, are all more important than "fun" #eltchat
languageeteach 2014-06-25T20:23:22 @Notyetlanguage @Marisa_C And games can help foster a more collaborative atmosphere. Some Ss may feel more part of the group #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:23:24 In the post she asks " can u force people to have fun"? Ts feel they have prepared something FUN & everyone should buy into it. #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:23:35 @David__Boughton Yes as they seem to translate into 'fun lessons' #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:23:37 RT @Marisa_C: Objectives of games fo YL's have a lot to do with their cognitive developement as well as languag #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:23:42 RT @David__Boughton: looking like people are saying interesting, challenging, engaging, are all more imp than "fun" #eltchat Aren’t they?
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:23:42 RT @David__Boughton: It's looking like people are saying interesting, challenging, engaging, are all more important than "fun" #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:24:19 @elawassell I often feel that teaching is fun and probably say this to sts. #eltchat
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:24:21 @SueAnnan #eltchat Here (Germany) we're often told never say 'games' to adults, say activities. Idea of games being frivolous/waste of time
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:24:26 @Shaunwilden @David__Boughton I would say so. Is there any learning in 'fun'? Not always! #ELTchat
David__Boughton 2014-06-25T20:24:27 @Shaunwilden Yes, I think so too! #eltchat
HanaTicha 2014-06-25T20:25:02 I think a task had a greater impact on me as a student when I responded 'wow' or 'hm' rather than 'haha' #eltchat
languageeteach 2014-06-25T20:25:14 @designerlessons True, it depends on the context and the learners. Some learners feel embarrassed 'letting go'. #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:25:14 RT @HanaTicha: I think a task had a greater impact on me as a student when I responded 'wow' or 'hm' rather than 'haha' #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:25:19 RT @HanaTicha: I think a task had a greater impact on me as a student when I responded 'wow' or 'hm' rather than 'haha' #eltchat
Ven_VVE 2014-06-25T20:25:51 RT @HanaTicha: I think a task had a greater impact on me as a student when I responded 'wow' or 'hm' rather than 'haha' #eltchat
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:25:59 RT @David__Boughton: It's looking like people are saying interesting, challenging, engaging, are all more important than "fun" #eltchat
Notyetlanguage 2014-06-25T20:26:17 @David__Boughton #eltchat This is because an activity can be fun, but not very useful for learning English or engaging cognitively.
angelos_bollas 2014-06-25T20:26:18 @EdLaur @Marisa_C does 'fun' mean laughs only? 'Engaging' is fun. #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:26:25 @languageeteach @designerlessons SOm Ss just don't want to open up by nature and are quite happy with that. They just want to learn #eltchat
anasainzc 2014-06-25T20:26:27 RT @angelos_bollas: @EdLaur @Marisa_C does 'fun' mean laughs only? 'Engaging' is fun. #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:26:31 But back to the "u need to put in effort/work message" - ts need to balance the important fun with that #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:26:43 @languageeteach  hey that’s Clare isn’t it  -hello :-) #eltchat
designerlessons 2014-06-25T20:26:44 If you ask adult learners to list reasons why theyre in the class,they  likely wont list "to have fun."Fun is a product not an aim #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:26:46 @HanaTicha but isn't 'fun' different to 'funny'? #eltchat
elawassell 2014-06-25T20:27:06 @SueAnnan yes! Useful is a key word! I ask Ss "what have you learned today?" #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:27:22 RT @angelos_bollas: @EdLaur @Marisa_C does 'fun' mean laughs only? 'Engaging' is fun. #eltchat > not it doesn't true
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:27:29 @elawassell @SueAnnan And when they say nothing what do you reply ;-) #eltchat
anasainzc 2014-06-25T20:27:38 I would say fun is a tool for engagement #eltchat
HanaTicha 2014-06-25T20:27:52 RT @KateLloyd05: @HanaTicha but isn't 'fun' different to 'funny'? #eltchat > Yes, there is. But I still associate smile/laughter with fun/ny
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:28:00 RT @anasainzc: I would say fun is a tool for engagement #eltchat assuming sts are engaged by fun
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:28:03 RT @anasainzc: I would say fun is a tool for engagement #eltchat > tool that should be balanced
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:28:08 Repetitive games can be boring too! Variety alone, whatever the activity can mean fun #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:28:19 @Shaunwilden @elawassell I haven't experienced that so far. Not sure :-) #eltchat
languageeteach 2014-06-25T20:28:19 @naomishema And teachers feel they have to behave and act a certain way - lots of jazz hands and swinging from the chandeliers #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:28:50 @languageeteach @naomishema Lol #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:29:00 @designerlessons some of my adults say that fun is an added benefit. Part of feeling very that time flies but also of good feeling. #eltchat
Ven_VVE 2014-06-25T20:29:01 RT @KateLloyd05: @HanaTicha but isn't 'fun' different to 'funny'? #eltchat > but both can make you laugh
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:29:03 @angelos_bollas  #eltchat not always in the fun/ laugh/ feel good sense. A serious documentary can lead to amazing class, but maybe not fun
elawassell 2014-06-25T20:29:04 @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan ha! I'll tell you when it happens. #eltchat
languageeteach 2014-06-25T20:29:08 @Shaunwilden Hi Dad. I remember you being one of the most fun teachers out there - sometimes it was intimidating! #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:29:14 RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @designerlessons some of my adults say that fun is an added benefit. Part of feeling very that time flies but also of …
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naomishema 2014-06-25T20:29:22 In post auction activity is mentioned. Ss begin clowning with items. everybody laughing but not progressing with activity in Eng. #eltchat
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KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:29:47 @naomishema think the problems come when we replace aims with 'fun' #eltchat
elawassell 2014-06-25T20:29:48 @SueAnnan @Shaunwilden exactly! Never happened. #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:29:57 RT @KateLloyd05: @naomishema think the problems come when we replace aims with 'fun' #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2014-06-25T20:30:04 @EdLaur I think it has to do w/ definitions. We mean the same thing, though #eltchat
dp_etr 2014-06-25T20:30:07 Turn Real World Environment into Engaging Language Learning Opportunity http://t.co/WH5YMIcHem  #ellchat #esl #elearning #ELTchat #langchat
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:30:10 @elawassell @SueAnnan i was just injecting some fun into the #eltchat ;-)
Jemtreinta 2014-06-25T20:30:12 RT @Marisa_C: Objectives of games fo YL's have a lot to do with their cognitive developement as well as languag #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:30:30 @Shaunwilden @elawassell sure you were :-) #eltchat
TESOLacademic 2014-06-25T20:30:43 RT @Shaunwilden: RT @anasainzc: I would say fun is a tool for engagement #eltchat assuming sts are engaged by fun
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:31:04 @anasainzc #eltchat I agree. One of many.
elawassell 2014-06-25T20:31:06 @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan objective achieved :-) #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:31:14 New thought. Is it necessary to have group that gets along before it's possible to even have fun? Maybe that's the key. #eltchat
Notyetlanguage 2014-06-25T20:31:15 @languageeteach @Marisa_C #eltchat True, games are great for fostering team spirit and creating a postive atmosphere.
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:31:38 Since the topics were tied, perhaps it should be half an hour 4 each as we seem to have  reached agreement #eltchat
designerlessons 2014-06-25T20:31:38 @MarjorieRosenbe absolutely, students should leave feeling like time has gone fast, that they've learned a lot, that it was fun #eltchat 1/2
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:31:46 For those of you who haven't read the post which inspired @naomishema here it is http://t.co/ISQRMFPeph #eltchat
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:32:12 @languageeteach  #eltchat So true! Love those Jazz Hands!! ;-)
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:32:19 RT @Marisa_C: For those of you who haven't read the post which inspired @naomishema here it is http://t.co/ISQRMFPeph #eltchat
David__Boughton 2014-06-25T20:32:27 RT @Marisa_C: For those of you who haven't read the post which inspired @naomishema here it is http://t.co/gb2d1ZSRiO #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:32:43 back to what i said as #eltchat started, as a trainer, I dislike it when tchers say on to the fun stuff, implying  what came before wasn’t
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:33:05 @designerlessons @MarjorieRosenbe But should they really? Always? The length of the course could make a diff too #eltchat
David__Boughton 2014-06-25T20:33:13 @MarjorieRosenbe Group dynamics are often the most important factor. Great point! #eltchat
designerlessons 2014-06-25T20:33:20 @MarjorieRosenbe if activities are boring/monotonous and don't engage, the learners will switch off. fun is a social lubricant #eltchat 2/2
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:33:26 have classes of teens next week,unusually. want them to learn n be engaged. don't want them to be bored, but fun is by product #eltchat
elawassell 2014-06-25T20:33:34 @MarjorieRosenbe true. At the beginning of the course a dose of ice-breaking activities is very helpful. #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:33:36 RT @David__Boughton: @MarjorieRosenbe Group dynamics are often the most important factor. Great point! #eltchat Games help build teams too
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:34:02 @David__Boughton @MarjorieRosenbe That's true, a great lesson can go pear shape given a bad vibe in the class #eltchat
LauraSoracco 2014-06-25T20:34:13 Today's #ELTchat makes me realize my def. of fun while learning is be very general. Fun = enjoyment, not looking at your watch every 5min.
elawassell 2014-06-25T20:34:23 RT @Shaunwilden: back to what i said as #eltchat started, as a trainer, I dislike it when tchers say on to the fun stuff, implying  what ca…
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:34:42 RT @Marisa_C: RT @David__Boughton: @MarjorieRosenbe Group dynamics are often the most important factor. Great point! #eltchat Games help bu…
languageeteach 2014-06-25T20:34:49 @Shaunwilden I made the mistake of trying a tried and tested 'fun' routine when I started teaching ESOL. I scared the SS, I think! #eltchat
David__Boughton 2014-06-25T20:35:02 @Marisa_C Yes, but I have seen them tear groups down too. #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:35:23 Old blog post of mine on games in the YL class http://t.co/YtTeoVTrtO #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:35:34 group bonding is a very important part of teacher role #ELTchat
designerlessons 2014-06-25T20:35:46 @HadaLitim @MarjorieRosenbe depends on what you consider "fun" to be. Making activities engaging/interesting is 100%part of the job #eltchat
Ven_VVE 2014-06-25T20:35:52 @LauraSoracco yes, when ss say, oh, is class already over, we didn't realize - good feeling. But hopefully not just because fun. #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:35:59 Is a fun lesson, 'fun' for the Ss AND teacher or can it be 'fun' for the Ss and hard work for the T? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:36:03 @David__Boughton Why did this happen - competition? age group? #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:36:07 RT @SueAnnan: group bonding is a very important part of teacher role #ELTchat > what size of class? Even 40?
David__Boughton 2014-06-25T20:36:07 @Shaunwilden "Let's do something fun now" - Great point, and some language to watch out for when teaching. #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:36:08 @languageeteach Yes I can imagine - different contexts and motivations I would guess #eltchat Btw hows the book doing?
stephentimothy 2014-06-25T20:36:36 RT @designerlessons: @MarjorieRosenbe absolutely, students should leave feeling like time has gone fast, that they've learned a lot, that i…
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:36:38 @Shaunwilden Agree. Fun is just a natural part of the lesson like engagement,  a ha feelings of understanding etc. #eltchat
designerlessons 2014-06-25T20:36:44 @HadaLitim @MarjorieRosenbe but that doesn't necessarily mean playng games, and telling jokes #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:37:05 RT @designerlessons: @HadaLitim @MarjorieRosenbe depends on what you consider "fun" to be. Making activities engaging/interesting is 100%pa…
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:37:11 @designerlessons @MarjorieRosenbe I'm with @HadaLitim, not sure if fun is essential. #eltchat Not every day!
languageeteach 2014-06-25T20:37:14 @Shaunwilden I avoid saying anything is fun in case the Ss don't find it so. If they do, great, but it's not what I'm aiming for. #eltchat
LauraSoracco 2014-06-25T20:37:21 Defining "fun" in ELT depends on our learners. It would not be appropriate to play games in my classes, but we can still have fun. #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:37:22 @naomishema I think so, but have no experience of such large groups #eltchat
angelos_bollas 2014-06-25T20:37:26 @SueAnnan and it can be a life savior! Especially with YL and more mature adults #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:37:30 I think there are teachers who can make the most serious stuff look exciting and fun to do - it doesn't always involve games #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:37:35 RT @LauraSoracco: Defining "fun" in ELT depends on our learners. It would not be appropriate to play games in my classes, but we can still …
anasainzc 2014-06-25T20:37:40 RT @Marisa_C: I think there are teachers who can make the most serious stuff look exciting and fun to do - it doesn't always involve games …
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:37:40 @HadaLitim @designerlessons Absolutely.  And the length also has effect on rapport.  #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:37:41 RT @Marisa_C: I think there are teachers who can make the most serious stuff look exciting and fun to do - it doesn't always involve games …
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:37:43 RT @EdLaur: @designerlessons @MarjorieRosenbe I'm with @HadaLitim, not sure if fun is essential. #eltchat Not every day!
languageeteach 2014-06-25T20:37:56 @Shaunwilden Out at the end of July, I think. You can pre-order your copy now! #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:38:14 @LauraSoracco was thinking the same when i wrote my comment :-) #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:38:24 @MarjorieRosenbe @designerlessons This is what I found teaching on a Uni foundation course once - tough task keeping it fun #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:38:24 @MarjorieRosenbe What’s the learning styles take on fun? #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:38:44 RT @Shaunwilden: @MarjorieRosenbe What’s the learning styles take on fun? #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:38:57 @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe Interesting question #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:39:05 "you can plan fun, fun is the same for everyone, you can force people to have fun"- these are the fallacies stated. #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:39:05 @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe wouldn't risk takers and extroverts be more likely to enjoy games? #eltchat
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:39:06 @LauraSoracco #eltchat Hi L! Does it depend though on the age/ course? Uni Ss can have rewarding/ engaging but serious lesson.
HanaTicha 2014-06-25T20:39:10 @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe Variety #eltchat
designerlessons 2014-06-25T20:39:13 @EdLaur @MarjorieRosenbe @HadaLitim the moment a teacher sets out 2 have fun, they've lost the way,but being engaging is essential #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:39:35 @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe Yes, and introverts cringe at the thought of them #eltchat
LauraSoracco 2014-06-25T20:39:49 What do fun classes look like in your context? in mine, Ss have had fun with debates #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:39:52 @David__Boughton So perhaps the team building must come FIRST before team/competitive games #eltchat
Ven_VVE 2014-06-25T20:39:55 @LauraSoracco do you mean in EAP classes? I have games in those as well, but usually just as warmers/fillers. Topic related. #eltchat
languageeteach 2014-06-25T20:39:55 @David__Boughton @Shaunwilden It's like saying 'something's easy' or 'difficult'. We have to be careful of making assumptions. #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:40:28 @HadaLitim @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe introverts cringe -that's one of the worries, you can't force people 2 have fun #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:40:42 RT @naomishema: @HadaLitim @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe introverts cringe -that's one of the worries, you can't force people 2 h…
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:40:43 RT @naomishema: @HadaLitim @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe introverts cringe -that's one of the worries, you can't force people 2 h…
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:40:49 Looks like we've moved from fun to importance of group dynamics & cohesion. #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:40:49 RT @languageeteach: @David__Boughton @Shaunwilden It's like saying 'something's easy' or 'difficult'. We have to be careful of making assum…
nostradamuspeak 2014-06-25T20:40:54 RT @Marisa_C: I think there are teachers who can make the most serious stuff look exciting and fun to do - it doesn't always involve games …
HanaTicha 2014-06-25T20:41:12 So it's not wise to incorporate fun artificially into a lesson - but I'd always welcome it as an essential by-product #eltchat
languageeteach 2014-06-25T20:41:16 @Shaunwilden I haven't been paid anything. Need the dosh. #eltchat
designerlessons 2014-06-25T20:41:29 @HadaLitim @MarjorieRosenbe some will just be hard work. Sts expect that - but the relief comes with interesting prod. activities #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:41:34 @MarjorieRosenbe Team games rely on good group dynamics though don't they #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:41:34 RT @HanaTicha: So it's not wise to incorporate fun artificially into a lesson - but I'd always welcome it as an essential by-product #eltch…
LauraSoracco 2014-06-25T20:41:38 @EdLaur Hola! Yes, depends on age and course. Serious can equal fun, too. Example, conducting a survey & learning something unusual #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:41:53 @MarjorieRosenbe Yes and we had a good chat about that not too long ago. Cohesion's so important #eltchat
elawassell 2014-06-25T20:42:11 RT @HanaTicha: So it's not wise to incorporate fun artificially into a lesson - but I'd always welcome it as an essential by-product #eltch…
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:42:22 @Shaunwilden wow, don't vthink there is one answer here. Learning in preferred style is comfortable,  is that fun? Maybe.  #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:42:27 @designerlessons Ah, but DO the students expect the hard work part? that's the worry. #eltchat
elawassell 2014-06-25T20:42:42 @HanaTicha well said! #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:43:07 RT @elawassell: @HanaTicha well said! #eltchat agreed :-)
designerlessons 2014-06-25T20:43:09 @HadaLitim @MarjorieRosenbe as has been said by others, engaging, interesting & useful add up to a positive learning experience #eltchat
LauraSoracco 2014-06-25T20:43:15 @Ven_VVE Hi V! Yes, me too when teaching EAP prep. Time is limited w/ current class and I think Ss might not take games too well. #eltchat
languageeteach 2014-06-25T20:43:16 @naomishema @HadaLitim @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe  I haven't always had 'fun' studying but I've still enjoyed lessons #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:43:26 RT @languageeteach: @naomishema @HadaLitim @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe  I haven't always had 'fun' studying but I've still enjo…
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:43:26 @naomishema @designerlessons Back to background and motivation #eltchat
David__Boughton 2014-06-25T20:43:38 @Marisa_C Makes sense! Great point. #eltchat
Ven_VVE 2014-06-25T20:43:56 @naomishema @designerlessons it might be a good idea to clarify expectations at the beginning of the course. #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:44:02 RT @Ven_VVE: @naomishema @designerlessons it might be a good idea to clarify expectations at the beginning of the course. #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:44:05 @designerlessons @MarjorieRosenbe Indeed! #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:44:13 RT @Ven_VVE: @naomishema @designerlessons it might be a good idea to clarify expectations at the beginning of the course. #eltchat
Notyetlanguage 2014-06-25T20:44:23 #eltchat Studying a language is sometimes hard work, isn't it? You can have fun if you like what you're doing.
designerlessons 2014-06-25T20:44:29 @naomishema if they don't, the school has mis-sold the course! :) Students have got to be prepared to work, i think #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:44:57 What about the TIMING of games in a lesson - or the 'fun factor' if you wish - how often and when ? #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:44:58 @languageeteach @naomishema @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe One might enjoy a good book and hate a rollercoaster ride #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:45:14 @HadaLitim @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Depends on game I think. They all last ved creating ideal home. #eltchat http://t.co/eKHVB8lC8Y
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:45:16 @Ven_VVE @naomishema @designerlessons don't you do that as standard practice? #eltchat
David__Boughton 2014-06-25T20:45:33 @Notyetlanguage Yes, and isn't the fun part when STs use the language? Out on the street, away from us teachers. #eltchat
LauraSoracco 2014-06-25T20:45:41 @Marisa_C @MarjorieRosenbe is there a specific question to discuss related to group dynamics & cohesion? #ELTchat
designerlessons 2014-06-25T20:45:47 RT @SueAnnan: @Ven_VVE @naomishema @designerlessons don't you do that as standard practice? #eltchat
designerlessons 2014-06-25T20:45:51 RT @Ven_VVE: @naomishema @designerlessons it might be a good idea to clarify expectations at the beginning of the course. #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:46:00 Should have read 'all loved creating ideal home'. #eltchat
elawassell 2014-06-25T20:46:19 RT @designerlessons: If you ask adult learners to list reasons why theyre in the class,they  likely wont list "to have fun."Fun is a produc…
HanaTicha 2014-06-25T20:46:52 @Ven_VVE I used to ask YLs: What would you like to do in the course? - Play games! I'm wiser now - never ask this questiion :-) #eltchat
Ven_VVE 2014-06-25T20:46:53 @SueAnnan @naomishema @designerlessons yes, but can't hurt 2 check what ss understand to be working hard. :) #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:46:56 Also think that respective of style most sts find kinesthetic activities 'fun'. #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:47:01 RT @HanaTicha: @Ven_VVE I used to ask YLs: What would you like to do in the course? - Play games! I'm wiser now - never ask this questiion …
languageeteach 2014-06-25T20:47:05 @LauraSoracco Revision activities - good, e.g. a vocabulary box/bag and creating different activities, e.g. 'pass the bag' (parcel)#eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:47:12 @HanaTicha @Ven_VVE Lol! #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:47:25 @Marisa_C problem when fun is programmed for the end. Can also be disruptive in middle :-) #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:47:36 RT @SueAnnan: @Marisa_C problem when fun is programmed for the end. Can also be disruptive in middle :-) #eltchat
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:47:41 @David__Boughton @Notyetlanguage Exactly! Reward for the hard work!#eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:48:24 @SueAnnan @Marisa_C At the beginning can inject needed energy at times. Here 4pm classes are the worst! Game start is a must #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:48:44 @designerlessons I'm a school teacher, colors my perspective. Though have taught adult courses where they pay.#eltchat
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HanaTicha 2014-06-25T20:48:48 @Marisa_C I wouldn't assign a fixed time.. as they fit in - depending on the planned activities #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:48:50 @SueAnnan so what would you suggest ? #eltchat or play it by ear depending on topic or class
LauraSoracco 2014-06-25T20:48:52 @languageeteach Good ideas! thanks. Fun ideas are often simple :) #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:49:01 @Marisa_C sometimes it's just the feeling that it's time to do sth different.  #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:49:10 RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @Marisa_C sometimes it's just the feeling that it's time to do sth different.  #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:49:26 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan Yes, definitely differes from class to class #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:49:40 i used to hate the promise of fun which never materialised as class overran. Play it by ear is best #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:49:50 RT @SueAnnan: i used to hate the promise of fun which never materialised as class overran. Play it by ear is best #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:50:07 RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @Marisa_C sometimes it's just the feeling that it's time to do sth different.  #eltchat
HanaTicha 2014-06-25T20:50:08 RT @SueAnnan: i used to hate the promise of fun which never materialised as class overran. Play it by ear is best #eltchat
elawassell 2014-06-25T20:50:14 RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @Marisa_C sometimes it's just the feeling that it's time to do sth different.  #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:50:20 So it looks like most of us have a balanced view of what games are good for and when or if to use fun activities - #eltchat
anasainzc 2014-06-25T20:50:21 All these tweets are very inspirational. You guys are giving me lots of ideas for a post :) #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:50:41 @SueAnnan Agree. Sometimes other things just take over. #eltchat
elawassell 2014-06-25T20:50:42 RT @SueAnnan: i used to hate the promise of fun which never materialised as class overran. Play it by ear is best #eltchat
languageeteach 2014-06-25T20:51:00 @MarjorieRosenbe Haven't learning styles largely been 'debunked'? Have been reading lots about VAK - see #vakoff , #vacuous etc #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:51:02 RT @anasainzc: You guys are giving me lots of ideas for a post :) #eltchat So maybe you can write the summary of the chat for us
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:51:11 What are some of the most successful fun activities, tools or apps you would like to share #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:51:17 RT @Shaunwilden: RT @anasainzc: You guys are giving me lots of ideas for a post :) #eltchat So maybe you can write the summary of the chat …
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:51:28 RT @HanaTicha: @Marisa_C I wouldn't assign a fixed time.. as they fit in - depending on the planned activities #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:51:35 Besides games, what else can generate fun? #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:51:48 RT @Marisa_C: What are some of the most successful fun activities, tools or apps you would like to share #eltchat
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:51:49 @HanaTicha @Marisa_C #eltchat Also depends on group age/ size/ lesson type/ Ss themselves. So many variables!
Notyetlanguage 2014-06-25T20:51:53 @EdLaur @David__Boughton #eltchat Is there a dichotomy work - fun? Or work can be fun and fun can be work? Motivation makes it possible.
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:51:53 Creativity and encouraging sts can also be fun. I think alot depends on definition.  #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:52:03 @Marisa_C Was just thinking about that :D #eltchat
languageeteach 2014-06-25T20:52:16 @HanaTicha @Ven_VVE I had a group of kids who wanted to play the same game every lesson and it was a rubbish made-up-by-me game. #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:52:18 @HadaLitim competition. Quizzes, tasks #ELTchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:52:24 @HadaLitim Solving mysteries and puzzles ? #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:52:32 @HadaLitim video clips, cartoons. #eltchat
HanaTicha 2014-06-25T20:52:52 @languageeteach @Ven_VVE So you obviously didn't have fun :-) #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:52:55 @Marisa_C Races Presentations #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:52:56 @languageeteach @HanaTicha @Ven_VVE Kids love repeated rituals am not surprised #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:52:57 @languageeteach @HanaTicha @Ven_VVE what was it? Sounds good! #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:53:27 @HadaLitim Running dictation? #eltchat that s always a hit with us
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:53:28 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan #eltchat Often good to have a few as back-up to add at certain points if lesson falls a bit flat, but skip otherwise
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:53:36 @KateLloyd05 Role plays #eltchat
Ven_VVE 2014-06-25T20:53:37 @Marisa_C My undergrads said they liked Quizlet. #eltchat
HanaTicha 2014-06-25T20:53:44 RT @EdLaur: @Marisa_C @SueAnnan #eltchat Often good to have a few as back-up to add at certain points if lesson falls a bit flat, but skip …
designerlessons 2014-06-25T20:53:49 @naomishema ah, then that can be more difficult. If students are forced to be there expectations are often different from paying Ss #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:53:53 interviewing shoes #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:54:02 @languageeteach @HanaTicha @Ven_VVE my kids love variation of hangman with two sets of steps. Each wrong letter they go down steps #eltchat
languageeteach 2014-06-25T20:54:19 @SueAnnan So true! #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:54:24 My own Ss like MAKING board games for other groups to play (based on templates I gave them) #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:54:24 @Marisa_C Be a machine. Each st plays different part of machine. Explain processes & functions. #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:54:25 @Marisa_C Yes as well as correction races and comprehension races #eltchat Faves in my classes
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:54:33 I agree, Quizlet is an awesome example of work that can become fun. #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:54:41 RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @Marisa_C Be a machine. Each st plays different part of machine. Explain processes & functions. #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T20:54:42 @anasainzc @Marisa_C @HadaLitim @SueAnnan We have a summary writer offer, if you could send Ana the transcript and guidance #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:54:48 @languageeteach @HanaTicha @Ven_VVE at the bottom of steps is villain of their choosing to eat them, crocodile, shark, cactus..#eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:54:48 RT @Marisa_C: My own Ss like MAKING board games for other groups to play (based on templates I gave them) #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:55:00 RT @Shaunwilden: @anasainzc @Marisa_C @HadaLitim @SueAnnan We have a summary writer offer, if you could send Ana the transcript and guidanc…
Ven_VVE 2014-06-25T20:55:08 RT @naomishema: I agree, Quizlet is an awesome example of work that can become fun. #eltchat
dianatremayne 2014-06-25T20:55:25 I had a student today who came in v upset + angry. After charades he had shown diff between a chicken + a turkey + was laughing :) #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:55:28 @Shaunwilden @anasainzc @Marisa_C @HadaLitim Will do. Just give it 10 minutes at the end and you'll have it #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:55:29 @Shaunwilden @anasainzc @HadaLitim @SueAnnan Great! #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:55:41 @Marisa_C did that last week with unmotivated, end of term teens. Loved it #eltchat
HanaTicha 2014-06-25T20:55:47 @Marisa_C Great! I love the creative element - creating sth finally becomes more interesting than the game itself #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:55:57 RT @HanaTicha: @Marisa_C Great! I love the creative element - creating sth finally becomes more interesting than the game itself #eltchat
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:55:58 @MarjorieRosenbe #eltchat I think definition is the tricky part. Wary of telling (new) Ts make lessons fun, may equate that with Games only
designerlessons 2014-06-25T20:56:05 @SueAnnan the promise of a carrot that never comes! Kids get so angry if the game doesn't happen :) #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:56:07 Cooperative learning can be fun. Make ten of newspaper for whole group to fit in. #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:56:16 RT @designerlessons: @SueAnnan the promise of a carrot that never comes! Kids get so angry if the game doesn't happen :) #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:56:46 @MarjorieRosenbe tent? #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:56:49 @HanaTicha  also board games to check whole book like for exams - with great design ideas #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:56:58 At the end of a lesson Ss paint a huge graffiti on the IWB to express their understanding and feelings abt the topic #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:57:02 @EdLaur @MarjorieRosenbe make lessons engaging and student centres better #eltchat
EdLaur 2014-06-25T20:57:05 @languageeteach @HanaTicha @Ven_VVE Maybe you can patent it and make millions!! #eltchat  #ELTFantasy
dianatremayne 2014-06-25T20:57:07 I don't think fun itself is a key aim but if people leave happier than they arrive + learn something I think that's pretty good #eltchat
designerlessons 2014-06-25T20:57:11 RT @MarjorieRosenbe: Creativity and encouraging sts can also be fun. I think alot depends on definition.  #eltchat
HanaTicha 2014-06-25T20:57:17 @MarjorieRosenbe Yes. Or making vocabulary cards for others to play games with them later on. Good for revision and fun :-) #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:57:23 @anasainzc @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan Thank YOU! #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:57:30 @dimodeca @HadaLitim @SueAnnan Usually allow a bit more time than what planned if ss engaged and producing - not just having fun #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T20:57:38 RT @dianatremayne: I don't think fun itself is a key aim but if people leave happier than they arrive + learn something I think that's pret…
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:57:44 Fun is also solving problems, writing fantasy stories about others, fortune telling, collecting info, etc. #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:57:53 RT @HadaLitim: At the end of a lesson Ss paint a huge graffiti on the IWB to express their understanding and feelings abt the topic #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:57:54 RT @MarjorieRosenbe: Fun is also solving problems, writing fantasy stories about others, fortune telling, collecting info, etc. #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:58:02 @dimodeca @Marisa_C @SueAnnan Depends on how much language the activity produces #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:58:31 @MarjorieRosenbe ooh that's an idea for my kids - make clothes of newspaper #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:58:40 RT @dianatremayne: I don't think fun itself is a key aim but if people leave happier than they arrive + learn something I think that's pret…
languageeteach 2014-06-25T20:59:01 @Marisa_C Pronunciation poems can be "fun". I like getting Ss to perform them, standing up and sitting down when it's their turn. #eltchat
KateLloyd05 2014-06-25T20:59:02 RT @MarjorieRosenbe: Cooperative learning can be fun. Make ten of newspaper for whole group to fit in. #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:59:11 2mins DO we get extra time tonight? ;) #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T20:59:12 @Marisa_C Great idea. Love it! #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T20:59:15 @MarjorieRosenbe Fantasy stories are great - especially chain stories where stories are passed round every minute or so #eltchat
HanaTicha 2014-06-25T20:59:21 @MarjorieRosenbe Exactly. Anything can be fun is well-designed. But if collaboration and creativity included and needed=perfect!! #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T20:59:28 board grabs are fun too #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T20:59:47 @MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C Yes, love it too. Will try this #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T21:00:12 @SueAnnan What are they Sue? #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T21:00:23 @SueAnnan What r board grabs? #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T21:00:27 RT @HanaTicha: @MarjorieRosenbe Exactly. Anything can be fun is well-designed. But if collaboration and creativity included and needed=perf…
EdLaur 2014-06-25T21:00:41 RT @HanaTicha: @MarjorieRosenbe Exactly. Anything can be fun is well-designed. But if collaboration and creativity included and needed=perf…
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T21:00:49 My students have fun even reading the same boring dialogue is you say read it SLYLY or LAZILY or CRAZILY or SHYLY etc #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T21:01:07 @SueAnnan though always with a word of warning, my colleague played that in a workshop and a teacher ended up hospitalised #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T21:01:11 @MarjorieRosenbe Wow! Sounds exciting. Is this with YLs? #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T21:02:06 The hour has passed….#eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T21:02:09 @Shaunwilden really. must have been rowdy lot #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T21:02:13 @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan Lol don't know the game sounds dangerous! #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T21:02:16 @SueAnnan Sounds like fun! #eltchat
HanaTicha 2014-06-25T21:02:20 @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan Yes. Games can be dangerous if too interesting. Ss even get hurt! #eltchat
dianatremayne 2014-06-25T21:02:24 @SueAnnan @naomishema can be v competitive - ss get carried away sometimes! #eltchat
naomishema 2014-06-25T21:02:26 @SueAnnan don't u have ss fighting over a card as in I touched it first? #eltchat U see I'm a school teacher..
languageeteach 2014-06-25T21:02:28 @HadaLitim Great idea .If you want to use tech, they can post their responses via their mobiles onto a #padlet wall. Did that today #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2014-06-25T21:02:55 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan teacher was too eager and tripped, split  head open on the pen holder part of the board #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T21:03:16 @HanaTicha @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan With races, my Ss (all women) usually take their shoes off ;) #eltchat
Notyetlanguage 2014-06-25T21:03:36 @Marisa_C #eltchat My students definitely have fun with Jeopardy. We don't always play it as a competitive game. Useful for revision.
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T21:03:40 @HadaLitim Which one? I've done the tent in teacher training. A bit like the bridge done for team building in firms. #eltchat
languageeteach 2014-06-25T21:04:01 @naomishema And classtoolsnet - the dustbin one goes down well usually. #eltchat
Ven_VVE 2014-06-25T21:04:15 @languageeteach @HadaLitim Yes, Padlet is another one mine liked. Engaging and fun. #eltchat
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T21:04:16 @Notyetlanguage love jeopardy #eltchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T21:04:20 @languageeteach Two of my classes did one today too on Consumerism and shared them on WhatsApp - some great work there #eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T21:04:22 @languageeteach @naomishema yes the dustbin is fun #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T21:04:34 RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @HadaLitim Which one? I've done the tent in teacher training. A bit like the bridge done for team building in firms. #…
Marisa_C 2014-06-25T21:04:37 RT @languageeteach: @naomishema And classtoolsnet - the dustbin one goes down well usually. #eltchat > great site
naomishema 2014-06-25T21:04:46 RT @Marisa_C: RT @languageeteach: @naomishema And classtoolsnet - the dustbin one goes down well usually. #eltchat > great site
EdLaur 2014-06-25T21:04:49 Thanks all! Very enjoyable chat. #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 2014-06-25T21:04:55 Great chat everyone but teaching tomorrow so off to bed. Have a great summer all. :-)#eltchat
SueAnnan 2014-06-25T21:05:35 Night everyone. time to wrap up? will sort out transcript now #ELTchat
HadaLitim 2014-06-25T21:05:40 @EdLaur Thanks Laura - missed this week's eltchinwag so happy to see you here. Have a great summer and 'chat around soon' #eltchat

 

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