| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T10:58:36 |
Ready for #eltchat? |
| NewbieCELTA |
2014-06-18T10:59:18 |
RT @Shaunwilden: Ready for #eltchat? |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T10:59:22 |
@Shaunwilden Yup! Fire away #eltchat |
| AmadeuMarin |
2014-06-18T10:59:24 |
@Shaunwilden Ready! #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T10:59:55 |
Hi eltchatters, great to be back again #eltchat |
| adi_rajan |
2014-06-18T11:01:12 |
@Shaunwilden Ready and willing! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:01:13 |
"What tech do you think is particularly effective in a classroom?" First Question for #ELTchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:01:31 |
Thank you I am attending today! #eltchat |
| ELTchat |
2014-06-18T11:01:46 |
RT @Shaunwilden: "What tech do you think is particularly effective in a classroom?" First Question for #ELTchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:01:51 |
@mary28sou Hi Mary great to have you with us #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:02:08 |
@adi_rajan @Shaunwilden Great Adi #eltchat |
| NewbieCELTA |
2014-06-18T11:02:24 |
the best 'tech' ANY classroom is Ss' minds which become 'tech' when exploited learning/teaching TOOL not only consumer. alws avl #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:02:29 |
Hi all : ) #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:02:45 |
Could say broadly that visual tech reaches most people well #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:03:03 |
@Shaunwilden To me IWBs if used properly are a great tool #eltchat |
| AmadeuMarin |
2014-06-18T11:03:06 |
@Shaunwilden wifi, computer and projector #eltchat |
| adi_rajan |
2014-06-18T11:03:29 |
By effective, do we mean engaging, economical, practical, easy-to-use, relevant? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:03:44 |
@joannacre Hey Joanna, great to have you again #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:03:52 |
"If you had few resources , what tech would you use that was free, or cost effective?" 2nd Question we are addressing today on #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:03:58 |
Also a question to the other chatters: are electronic whiteboards effective in your opinion? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:04:09 |
@mary28sou Mary, can you elaborate a bit please? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:04:13 |
RT @mary28sou: Also a question to the other chatters: are electronic whiteboards effective in your opinion? #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:04:41 |
well, I teach online so I guess that's kinda techy : ) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:04:49 |
RT @adi_rajan: By effective, do we mean engaging, economical, practical, easy-to-use, relevant? #eltchat Seems a good but wide definition |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:04:55 |
@mary28sou Only if you carefully - they can easily turn the lesson into a T-fronted show #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:05:18 |
@mary28sou Nope is my answer #eltchat |
| AmadeuMarin |
2014-06-18T11:05:29 |
A2 What exactlly u mean few resourcs? #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:05:44 |
Visual tech for example Ss creating photo collage on smartphones or teacher using iPad to search a good visual for a lesson #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:05:47 |
@Shaunwilden @mary28sou Interesting...why? #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:05:48 |
@mary28sou if you know how to use them, yes. If u don't like me, they are just a fancy whiteboard : ( #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:06:07 |
Thanks Shaun I hate them basically #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:06:23 |
@joannacre @mary28sou Exactly my opinion - sadly too often turn into a glorified white board #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:06:31 |
@Shaunwilden @adi_rajan Presumably, having a positive effect on learning is most important #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:06:47 |
@AmadeuMarin I presume it means little else at hand in terms of materials, books? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:07:13 |
@mary28sou I love being able to use audio visual and be able to play with the material easily #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:07:14 |
@HadaLitim @mary28sou Don’t get me started, I am known to rant about this :-) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:07:34 |
RT @patrickelt: @Shaunwilden @adi_rajan Presumably, having a positive effect on learning is most important #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:07:50 |
Ok effective - achieves a learning objective? #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:07:51 |
Belated hellos to all at #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:07:53 |
@Shaunwilden @mary28sou You've got me intrigued so I'm opening your blog now hehe #eltchat |
| adi_rajan |
2014-06-18T11:08:33 |
Mobiles enthuse Ss but have found that they don't always lead to the most productive lessons if they become centre of attention. #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:08:41 |
@mary28sou not yet... limited opportunities for interactiion, better off with a projector #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:08:52 |
RT @teflgeek: @mary28sou not yet... limited opportunities for interactiion, better off with a projector #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:09:23 |
@Shaunwilden @mary28sou Another thing is it can be useful and more effective to have the electronic version of the book to display #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:09:25 |
@mary28sou I think so and therefore, difficult to generalise as purposes and contexts are different #eltchat |
| AmadeuMarin |
2014-06-18T11:09:27 |
@Shaunwilden A2 i suppse, if we've got just books the 1st this is a board.... #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:09:35 |
@HadaLitim @mary28sou me too, brings a variety to the lessons #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:09:59 |
I often feel the constant search for and application of technology in class often gets in the way of teaching. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:10:08 |
RT @bealer81: I often feel the constant search for and application of technology in class often gets in the way of teaching. #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:10:21 |
@adi_rajan Presumably it is not the tool that should enthuse but how tool helps with tasks #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:10:24 |
maybe the most effective is what gives the T lots of resources, like knowing where to access materials online #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:10:29 |
@adi_rajan yeah and they may be on FB as well #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:10:43 |
@teflgeek Aloha! #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:10:48 |
@Shaunwilden Google. free, effective and NSA notwithstanding, secure. #eltchat |
| adi_rajan |
2014-06-18T11:11:05 |
@bealer81 Agree. have wasted a lot of class time getting apps to work. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:11:15 |
@mary28sou and time-effective #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:11:22 |
@bealer81 Maybe but perhaps what we should do is think about what the tech can do and how this reflects today's world #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:11:34 |
@teflgeek you mean as a t-resource? #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:11:43 |
@bealer81 are you referring to keeping balance b2wn tech and nontech? #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:11:59 |
I feel that technology should be used to maintain contact outside the classroom. Feedback, student projects and sharing resources #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:12:11 |
RT @bealer81: I feel that technology should be used to maintain contact outside the classroom. Feedback, student projects and sharing reso… |
| NewbieCELTA |
2014-06-18T11:12:32 |
Good lotech item: poster paper. Advantage: hard to ignore/lose track of if kept in classroom/on walls. Disadv of files is discrete #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:12:41 |
@bealer81 Yes and mobile phones can be great for that, motivating and supporting ss outside the class #eltchat |
| anasainzc |
2014-06-18T11:12:55 |
RT @HadaLitim: @bealer81 Yes and mobile phones can be great for that, motivating and supporting ss outside the class #eltchat |
| adi_rajan |
2014-06-18T11:12:58 |
For writing courses, I ask my Ss to bring their laptops so that we are not doing pen & paper exercises but replicating reality #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:13:00 |
@bealer81 fair enuff but the fact that it can cross into the classroom as well can be utilised #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:13:11 |
@bealer81 Yes and perhaps make contacts with the wider world? #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:13:12 |
@Shaunwilden as a shared learning and collaboration space / information exchange. maybe not so hot in the classroom. #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:13:30 |
@patrickelt @bealer81 very often my lrns know how to use the tech better than me, I feel v. old :P #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:14:13 |
@mary28sou Not so much a balance. If the tech is good and simple, I utilize it. But very often I leave it in favour of white board #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:14:16 |
@joannacre @patrickelt @bealer81 They're defo the natives in that respect! #eltchat and it's a great booster for them #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:14:33 |
@HadaLitim @bealer81 I often tell them to use their phone as dictionaries #eltchat |
| anasainzc |
2014-06-18T11:14:51 |
Me too RT @joannacre: @HadaLitim @bealer81 I often tell them to use their phone as dictionaries #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:14:56 |
@joannacre @HadaLitim @bealer81 How do they do that? #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:14:59 |
What is good simple tech please @bealer 81 #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:15:02 |
@joannacre @bealer81 Depending on the task, I do too. #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:15:06 |
@joannacre @bealer81 Yes, perhaps can use more fluently but do they know why and pitfalls? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:15:19 |
RT @mary28sou: What is good simple tech please @bealer 81 #eltchat A cassette recorder? |
| ELTResearchCC |
2014-06-18T11:15:24 |
“@Shaunwilden: "What #tech do you think is particularly effective in a #classroom?" First Question for #ELTchat” #edtech #edtechreport |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:15:42 |
RT @ELTResearchCC: “@Shaunwilden: "What #tech do you think is particularly effective in a #classroom?" First Question for #ELTchat” #edtech… |
| anasainzc |
2014-06-18T11:15:55 |
RT @ELTResearchCC: “@Shaunwilden: "What #tech do you think is particularly effective in a #classroom?" First Question for #ELTchat” #edtech… |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:16:16 |
@Shaunwilden @mary28sou @bealer Haha! This is what I use my IWB most for. Audio and visual #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:16:37 |
Maybe free, cost-effective means using the tech the student has? #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:16:38 |
I certainly feel that tech has been pushed as being the way forward, when in fact it can be very time consuming and distracting. #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:17:26 |
@ditaphillips @adi_rajan @ELTchat Perhaps should not be taboo for the reasons you mention #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:17:28 |
This of course comes down to training but with only a 4 week CELTA course for most. Training is spent on other areas and rightly so #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:17:29 |
@Shaunwilden @HadaLitim @bealer81 they download a dictionary app or go to an online dict #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:17:35 |
@mary28sou Yes, I'm all for exploiting the devices my ss already own. Better chance of having thm continue the learning at home #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:18:39 |
@patrickelt @bealer81 yeah, but then again do I know the pitfalls? If I do not feel 100% comfy with the tech, I chuck it #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:18:39 |
@LahiffP discussing Tech in the classroom now, any time to join us? #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:19:38 |
@bealer81 treat #edtech critically - does it add? do all SS have it? does it do something better? does it cost? is it necessary? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:19:41 |
@bealer81 SHouldn't the tech only be used if it enhances the learning experience, not for the sake of it only #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:20:06 |
@Shaunwilden @bealer81 that would be cool!! : ) #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:20:19 |
@bealer81 off topic a bit now, how do u use whitebd? special ways would interest me. whtbd so "peaceful"! #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:20:24 |
@joannacre @bealer81 But you are aware, for example, that info might not be reliable, that we should often think before posting #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:20:28 |
@teflgeek @bealer81 These are essential qns! But sadly maybe not always considered in favour of fads #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
2014-06-18T11:20:46 |
RT @bealer81: I often feel the constant search for and application of technology in class often gets in the way of teaching. #eltchat |
| AmadeuMarin |
2014-06-18T11:20:57 |
@Shaunwilden @mary28sou @Bealer These days a smartphne will record audio , vid and take pics #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:20:58 |
@HadaLitim Joining #eltchat after a long time. Hello everyone. Sorry for being late and happy to be back. |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:21:14 |
@HadaLitim Absolutely. I feel a lot of the tech out there is not enhancing learning. Yet it is pushed as doing so. #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:21:29 |
RT @teflgeek: @bealer81 treat #edtech critically - does it add? do all SS have it? does it do something better? does it cost? is it necess… |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:21:32 |
@mary28sou @bealer81 I use the reavealer a lot to have the ss p[redict and discuss #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:21:41 |
@HadaLitim @bealer81 totally agree. Just because it is fancy and new, doesn't mean it will be effective #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:21:50 |
@teflgeek @bealer81 Yes and also how do we think/work in new ways? - eg dispersion through twitter #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:21:59 |
@cherrymp Great you could join us #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:22:32 |
@AmadeuMarin very gd point a neat package. #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:22:38 |
@AmadeuMarin @Shaunwilden @mary28sou @Bealer Yes so we can develop an awareness of multimodality #eltchat |
| anasainzc |
2014-06-18T11:23:11 |
Totallyagree RT @joannacre: @HadaLitim @bealer81 totally agree. Just because it is fancy and new, doesn't mean it will be effective #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:23:11 |
@bealer81 @HadaLitim tis is a common argument you could argue that same for many things pushed in elt - just cos...#eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:23:12 |
@mary28sou It should be full by the end of the lesson if possible. I use it as a record, a canvas anything that assists the sts. #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:23:19 |
@patrickelt @bealer81 the info in an online dictionary? I use the Cambridge online dic with them #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:23:36 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @bealer81 @HadaLitim tis is a common argument you could argue that same for many things pushed in elt - just cos...#eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:23:50 |
@bealer81 @HadaLitim someone says its good doesn’t make it so #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:23:53 |
@patrickelt @bealer81 tech is a tool like any other - if there's a good reason for it, then use it, if not - don't. #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:24:03 |
Canvas: nice image! #eltchat @bealer81 |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:24:10 |
@Shaunwilden @HadaLitim Yes and till we start pushing back nothing will change. #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:24:12 |
So, for example, I prefer online dic to paper ones cause they can hear the pron as well #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:24:23 |
@Shaunwilden @bealer81 We're sometimes pused to use tech in the classroom just for commercial reasons! :( #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:24:38 |
@HadaLitim what is the revealer please? #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:25:08 |
@Shaunwilden @bealer81 @HadaLitim Many Ts don't think whether tech enriches lng or not before they decide to use it. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:25:35 |
@mary28sou It's like a black cover that you can slowly slide down or across, or as a spotlight showing the text only partially #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:25:50 |
RT @teflgeek: @patrickelt @bealer81 tech is a tool like any other - if there's a good reason for it, then use it, if not - don't. #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:25:54 |
@teflgeek @bealer81 Agree and we should remember lots of people learnt languages well with old tech #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:26:07 |
RT @teflgeek: tech is a tool like any other - if there's a good reason for it, then use it, if not - don't. #eltchat > true #eltindia |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:26:07 |
@cherrymp @bealer81 @HadaLitim you could substitute course book for tech in that tweet and it still be true #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:26:12 |
@mary28sou I also like the ticker at the top for the vocab they must try and use while they're speaking #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:26:27 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @cherrymp @bealer81 @HadaLitim you could substitute course book for tech in that tweet and it still be true #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:26:28 |
oh youmean in iwb yes? @HadaLitim #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:26:43 |
@mary28sou Yes #eltchat |
| thaisachristine |
2014-06-18T11:27:13 |
RT @cherrymp: RT @teflgeek: tech is a tool like any other - if there's a good reason for it, then use it, if not - don't. #eltchat > true … |
| ditaphillips |
2014-06-18T11:27:39 |
@mary28sou @bealer81 presentations,incl pics,links to online video, audio, tasks=no h/o,can be done with other tech but is all in 1 #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:27:51 |
While it’s good to debate the principles of use, don’t forget the setter was looking for suggestions #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:27:57 |
Does use of tech in class and assessment increase economic marginalisation of people in resource poor countries? #eltchat #gettingpolitical |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:28:27 |
@Shaunwilden @bealer81 @HadaLitim Good observation. Tech use sadly has become "more out of obsession than that of need". #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:28:52 |
@teflgeek Go on I’ll bite - how so? #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:28:54 |
My fave suggestion when lesson planning with tech is ask: what's next? #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:29:01 |
RT @teflgeek: Does use of tech in class and assessment increase economic marginalisation of people in resource poor countries? #eltchat #ge… |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:29:09 |
@Shaunwilden @cherrymp @bealer81 @HadaLitim yes, so it is all about the T who knows how/when to use the c/b or the tech #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:29:34 |
@joannacre @Shaunwilden @cherrymp @bealer81 Totally! #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:29:52 |
@Shaunwilden those who can't afford tech get denied access to tech based ed thus perpetuating economic marginalisation? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:30:14 |
@teflgeek @Shaunwilden And the gap gets wider! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:30:19 |
@cherrymp Again I say substitute course book for tech in your statement :-) am just pointing out tech gets unfairly blamed #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:30:23 |
@teflgeek well, I struggle with marking essays online so I ain't a fan of that, but it is more green and econ #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:30:31 |
@mary28sou WHat do you mean Mary #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:30:36 |
RT @joannacre: ... it is all about the T who knows how/when to use the c/b or the tech #eltchat > agreed #eltindia |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:30:44 |
@teflgeek well would you choose to use tech that isn’t available? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:31:35 |
@joannacre I find it easier I give a lot more comments that way. But to develop handwriting skills, I still ask them to write too #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:31:39 |
@teflgeek that said there are many examples of i.e. mobile use in very poor countries #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:32:05 |
@teflgeek By that I mean mobile use in language learning #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:32:09 |
if using e.g. link to interactive site, what will Ss do with it next lesson #eltchat @HadaLitim |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:32:21 |
@Shaunwilden @teflgeek Yes Shaun, but not sure mobiles used in dev countries are high tech smart phones?? #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:32:31 |
@Shaunwilden @teflgeek available to how many at what cost and for how long? think all these qns matter. #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:32:42 |
@joannacre at least trees are renewable - how's your laptop? http://t.co/OBtxbMAf2y #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:32:55 |
@HadaLitim @teflgeek Look at the work that is being done using text messaging as the delivery system #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:33:20 |
@mary28sou That sounds like a great learner autonomy method #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:33:21 |
@teflgeek @Shaunwilden I would take quality teachers and teaching over tech any day. As long as that is happening, no difference. #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:33:24 |
@teflgeek then again, without turnitin, it would be hard to find plagiarism sooo #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:33:34 |
@HadaLitim @Shaunwilden @teflgeek As far as I know (e.g. Mlearning in Bangladesh) they aren't. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:33:35 |
@teflgeek @joannacre The LTSIG and GI SIG are addressing this issue in part of an event later this year #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:34:11 |
@teflgeek and my eyesight= I get headaches when marking online : ( #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:34:23 |
@Shaunwilden @teflgeek Yes amazing! Agreed. But prob ltd to that, right? Ie not much else #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:34:23 |
RT @bealer81: I would take quality teachers and teaching over tech any day. As long as that is happening, no difference. #eltchat #eltindia |
| NewbieCELTA |
2014-06-18T11:34:37 |
RT @bealer81: @teflgeek @Shaunwilden I would take quality teachers and teaching over tech any day. As long as that is happening, no differe… |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:34:46 |
@cherrymp @Shaunwilden @teflgeek That's my knowledge too, inc Africa #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:35:06 |
Whatsapp is a particularly good app for fostering class community. Share jokes and build more of a relationship with sts. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:35:08 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @teflgeek @joannacre The LTSIG and GI SIG are addressing this issue in part of an event later this year #eltchat |
| davidboydon |
2014-06-18T11:35:31 |
Hi everyone. I think TECH use in ELT is context dependent. Time for training teachers in TECH usage is also an issue. As is fear #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:35:35 |
@Shaunwilden Point noted. #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:35:46 |
@joannacre @teflgeek in British unis, virtually all marking seems to be onscreen now #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:36:25 |
@bealer81 Have friends who complain about the intrusiveness of the WhatsApp! #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:36:47 |
@bealer81 Absolutely I'm a regular user of this wth my ss and really see the benefits in study skills, motivation & group cohesion #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:37:18 |
@HadaLitim @cherrymp @Shaunwilden Going to have to think about that in more detail. tech definitely changing the ed model #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:37:25 |
@cherrymp @bealer81 How so? I set it up and then become a mere observer only making my presence known from time to time #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:37:41 |
@davidboydon Time for training in tech may be limited but tech is so much part of many people's lives that impossible not consider #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:38:01 |
@patrickelt looking forwards to that this summer! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:38:11 |
@teflgeek @HadaLitim @cherrymp which ed model? #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:38:33 |
@patrickelt @teflgeek yeap : ( dunno how I feel about that. I am saving on pens though- altho unis give pens for free as well #eltchat |
| LahiffP |
2014-06-18T11:38:39 |
@HadaLitim @bealer81 #eltchat Not that familiar with whatsapp, but I have used viber, more of less the same thing I think. |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:39:01 |
@HadaLitim @bealer81 Think the constant notifications is what puts off the dear friend. Plus d need to share phone number. #eltchat |
| idc74 |
2014-06-18T11:39:09 |
RT @bealer81: @teflgeek @Shaunwilden I would take quality teachers and teaching over tech any day. As long as that is happening, no differe… |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:39:34 |
@LahiffP Hi Peter! Yes, similar. WhatsApp is a big thing in Saudi Arabia hence my using it. I guess we shd use wht our Ss use #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:39:39 |
By limited resources does our setter mean internet access as well? #eltchat |
| LahiffP |
2014-06-18T11:39:51 |
@HadaLitim @Shaunwilden @teflgeek No, but even texting in English can be beneficial #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:39:56 |
@teflgeek @patrickelt me too. That's y I keep coming back for more : ) #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:40:12 |
@teflgeek A lot of people are marking 100s per year online - suspect I have done over 1000 this year #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:40:24 |
@cherrymp @bealer81 Conversations can be silenced, but I can see how that could be a bother. Maybe having a 2nd number cd help #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:40:43 |
@LahiffP @HadaLitim @bealer81 Viber - WhatsApp: Guess they are similar. #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:40:51 |
@LahiffP @HadaLitim @bealer81 whatsapp is like sending msgs for free, u can send voice msgs pics. Dunno whatelse u can do with it #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:40:52 |
@Shaunwilden well it removes all the middle men between manufacturer and consumer #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:41:00 |
@LahiffP @Shaunwilden @teflgeek Totally, texting is a day-to-day skill and if our ss use a diff alphabet, this really helps #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:41:12 |
@LahiffP @HadaLitim @Shaunwilden @teflgeek Can be very beneficial - meaningful contextualised writing #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:41:47 |
@HadaLitim @bealer81 Probably. Have heard Ts mentioning that they use it for their PD. Yet to figure out how they do it but. #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:41:51 |
Yes whatsapp can be intrusive. If so simply leave the group, as long as students are still communicating. Job done. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:41:54 |
@joannacre @LahiffP @bealer81 Ss can share the board work which really makes the T be more aware of it (spk of experience! :) #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:42:04 |
@patrickelt @LahiffP @HadaLitim @Shaunwilden in 140 characters or less... #eltchat |
| anasainzc |
2014-06-18T11:42:35 |
RT @HadaLitim: @joannacre @LahiffP @bealer81 Ss can share the board work which really makes the T be more aware of it (spk of experience! :… |
| LahiffP |
2014-06-18T11:42:41 |
@HadaLitim @Shaunwilden @teflgeek Has anyone ever ventured into snapchat? #eltchat |
| NewbieCELTA |
2014-06-18T11:42:50 |
The social net apps that Ss use OUTsIDE class (like whatsapp) are great. Vine! Shelly Terrell in Fri webinars pushes boundaries #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:43:02 |
@LahiffP @Shaunwilden @teflgeek No, have you? #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:43:09 |
I also use learn manag systs, they are useful #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:43:16 |
I think it would be useful to take the convos into class and look at mistakes and how the language could be upgraded. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:43:39 |
@NewbieCELTA Yes, I attended one of Shelly's webinars on Vine - very intersting! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:43:41 |
@teflgeek Yes sadly this could be true, do you read the eltjam blog this is the sort of thing they look at #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:43:53 |
RT @bealer81: I think it would be useful to take the convos into class and look at mistakes and how the language could be upgraded. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:44:29 |
@bealer81 Yes how can tech benefit language learning in the classroom? #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:44:38 |
@Shaunwilden I have been... also having a debate with @LizziePinard on the blogs about the implications #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:44:52 |
@LahiffP @HadaLitim @Shaunwilden @teflgeek Not yet. But aware of. Have you tried? How's the experience? #eltchat |
| LahiffP |
2014-06-18T11:45:23 |
@teflgeek @patrickelt @HadaLitim @Shaunwilden It's authentic, communicative and allows instant feedback. Little and often ... #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:45:37 |
RT @LahiffP: @teflgeek @patrickelt @HadaLitim @Shaunwilden It's authentic, communicative and allows instant feedback. Little and often ... … |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:45:50 |
@LahiffP @teflgeek @patrickelt @HadaLitim I missed the thread somewhere, what is? #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:45:53 |
@LahiffP @patrickelt @HadaLitim @Shaunwilden doesn't it disappear as soon as it's read / seen? #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:45:56 |
@bealer81 Might corpus analysis help with this? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:46:02 |
@LahiffP @teflgeek @patrickelt @Shaunwilden Can you give us an example? Do you use it in the classroom or outside? #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:46:04 |
@HadaLitim @bealer81 Sorry for butting in. Think tech can give opps to practise the L learned. #eltchat |
| NewbieCELTA |
2014-06-18T11:46:16 |
@bealer81 my Chinese immi students killed it with WeChat...as far as I know, still going a year later #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:46:34 |
@teflgeek Ta, doesn’t what you send vanish on that? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:46:35 |
@Shaunwilden @LahiffP @teflgeek @patrickelt Snapchat #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:46:52 |
RT @cherrymp: @HadaLitim @bealer81 Sorry for butting in. Think tech can give opps to practise the L learned. #eltchat |
| idc74 |
2014-06-18T11:46:56 |
@teflgeek @Shaunwilden Removes the middlemen? No it doesn't. Amazon? Google? Apple? Distribution channels still needed. #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:47:47 |
If there was one piece of tech I would get every teacher to use it would be online corpus. So much info and easy to access. #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:47:54 |
@Shaunwilden @teflgeek Yes it does. That's the 'snap' part of I think. #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:47:56 |
@idc74 removes the traditional middlemen then... Still a fundamentally disruptive act in the industry. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:48:07 |
@bealer81 Which is your fave? #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:48:07 |
RT @NewbieCELTA: @bealer81 my Chinese immi students killed it with WeChat...as far as I know, still going a year later #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:48:07 |
@NewbieCELTA @bealer81 Wechat? Never heard of it? Inthe classroom? #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:48:53 |
RT @bealer81: If there was one piece of tech I would get every teacher to use it would be online corpus. So much info and easy to access. #… |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-18T11:48:57 |
#eltchatWill look forward to the transcript. Sorry couldn't manage the chat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:49:18 |
@SueAnnan Hi Sue! #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:49:31 |
RT @LahiffP: [In SnapChat y]ou have a limited time to respond to messages and images and it is organised around groups. #eltindia #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:49:32 |
@SueAnnan Can you get it? #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:49:40 |
@bealer81 WHich do you use most? #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:49:56 |
@bealer81 Yes, I think this could be very useful. So much there about seeing examples of language in (often limited) context. #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:49:58 |
@Shaunwilden http://t.co/hFOb21Krrm is my go to corpus. Haven't had time to explore others. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:50:00 |
@Shaunwilden @SueAnnan I have it running if Sue can't #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-18T11:50:04 |
@HadaLitim hi . Just out of class:-) #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:50:09 |
@HadaLitim @NewbieCELTA @bealer81 it's the Chinese whatsapp #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:50:10 |
RT @bealer81: @Shaunwilden http://t.co/hFOb21Krrm is my go to corpus. Haven't had time to explore others. #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:50:21 |
@bealer81 @Shaunwilden Thanks Adam #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
2014-06-18T11:50:21 |
MT @bealer81 If there was one piece of tech I would get every S to use it would be online corpus. So much info and easy to access. #eltchat |
| idc74 |
2014-06-18T11:50:25 |
@teflgeek Yes. Agree it's disruptive and has certainly opened up opportunities for a larger number of 'suppliers' #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:50:53 |
@joannacre @NewbieCELTA @bealer81 Ah ok! I also love WHatsApp to review irregualr verb in a game form #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:51:20 |
@LahiffP @teflgeek @patrickelt @Shaunwilden Yes always a good idea to use a diff number #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:51:20 |
@LahiffP @cherrymp @Shaunwilden true, but don't you lose the opportunity for review and reflection? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:51:24 |
@LahiffP @cherrymp @teflgeek this intrigues me, I’d love to hear of any examples of how snapchat is used #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:51:54 |
Online corpus great idea, and so many to choose from, one for every student type @michaelegriffin #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T11:52:06 |
@idc74 as a teacher in a private language school struggling to make ends meet - I don't know how I feel about that.... #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:52:25 |
@joedale In #eltchat today snapchat was mentioned, do you know anyone using it to aid language learning? |
| idc74 |
2014-06-18T11:52:28 |
@michaelegriffin How much success have you had? Is the data/info presented in a way that appeals to learners? @bealer81 #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:52:39 |
@Shaunwilden @bealer81 Appropriate corpora would depend on classes. There are EAP ones, for example MICASE #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:53:08 |
@Shaunwilden @joedale I think @LahiffP first mentioned Snapchat and gave an example #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:53:14 |
@patrickelt @bealer81 My tweet was aimed at getting some links for those that might want to see one :-) #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:53:22 |
@teflgeek Think I made this point in a different way. The 'ephemeral' part made me think in that line. #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:53:34 |
RT @patrickelt: @Shaunwilden @bealer81 Appropriate corpora would depend on classes. There are EAP ones, for example MICASE #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
2014-06-18T11:53:45 |
@Shaunwilden @joedale have you asked Russell?#eltchat |
| LahiffP |
2014-06-18T11:53:57 |
@HadaLitim @joannacre @NewbieCELTA @bealer81 Sounds great! How do you manage it. SS do it between them? How do you win? #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
2014-06-18T11:54:00 |
@LahiffP @bealer81 i quite like COCA (though there is a learning curve for sure). BNC is nice and simple (and yes limited) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:54:11 |
@SueAnnan nah he isn’t an app person #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:54:44 |
Just over 5 minutes left so how can we wrap up this tech convo? In class, ur fav tech vs. out of class? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:54:50 |
Ok last 5 minutes…..#eltchat |
| idc74 |
2014-06-18T11:55:01 |
@michaelegriffin @bealer81 Is it good enough just for learners to have access to materials that are corpus-informed? #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:55:14 |
@idc74 @michaelegriffin It has a color code system. Shows frequent collocations. Allows for text analysis. Esay to read concordance #eltchat |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:55:15 |
@Shaunwilden @bealer81 If people are interested they might want to do the corpus analysis mooc #eltchat - look at future learn. |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:55:44 |
@LahiffP @joannacre @NewbieCELTA @bealer81 Th first 3 who get the form and spelling right get a point, count the points at the end #eltchat |
| joannacre |
2014-06-18T11:55:51 |
Gotta go! Have an online BE session now : ) Nice chat! #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:56:14 |
@joannacre Thanks for joining Jo, have a good one and see you next week #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:56:29 |
RT @patrickelt: @Shaunwilden @bealer81 If people are interested they might want to do the corpus analysis mooc #eltchat - look at future le… |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:56:30 |
RT @patrickelt: @Shaunwilden @bealer81 If people are interested they might want to do the corpus analysis mooc #eltchat - look at future le… |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:56:38 |
RT @patrickelt: @Shaunwilden @bealer81 If people are interested they might want to do the corpus analysis mooc #eltchat - look at future le… |
| patrickelt |
2014-06-18T11:56:43 |
@idc74 @michaelegriffin @bealer81 but if they can check combinations they try when writing, this can be useful #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T11:56:56 |
@michaelegriffin could you offer link for ways Ss can learn thru corpus or lesson ideas? o thanks patrick! #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:57:11 |
Any volunteer for the summary please? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:57:19 |
RT @HadaLitim: Any volunteer for the summary please? #eltchat |
| LahiffP |
2014-06-18T11:57:24 |
RT @patrickelt: @Shaunwilden @bealer81 If people are interested they might want to do the corpus analysis mooc #eltchat - look at future le… |
| NewbieCELTA |
2014-06-18T11:57:40 |
#eltchat btw, might this chat consider the 'slowburn' approach sometimes? As in an all-day chat? A la #keltchat often seems like a puff 1hr |
| ditaphillips |
2014-06-18T11:58:04 |
I'm off. Sorry been in and out of class. Thanks all. #ELTchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:58:05 |
@idc74 @michaelegriffin It would useful for them to know what a corpus was first. And that materials aren't just random langauge #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T11:58:08 |
@SueAnnan Thanks to different chat timings. We from different parts of the world can join at least one. #eltchat today is in the evening4me. |
| michaelegriffin |
2014-06-18T11:58:15 |
@idc74 @bealer81 good question...but i think its great to have ss find the info they want and need through corpora. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T11:58:22 |
@NewbieCELTA We’re soon to break for summer but we could try it next term :-) #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:58:27 |
@NewbieCELTA I actually like the 'slowburn' approach too - attended one the other day, interesting #eltchat |
| LahiffP |
2014-06-18T11:58:28 |
RT @michaelegriffin: @LahiffP @bealer81 i quite like COCA (though there is a learning curve for sure). BNC is nice and simple (and yes limi… |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T11:59:38 |
So volunteer anyone? Summary for your blog or Eltchat's #eltchat |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T11:59:43 |
That was frantic! If I didn't reply it was because I simply couldn't keep up and i was cooking lunch at same time. #eltchat |
| idc74 |
2014-06-18T11:59:55 |
@michaelegriffin @bealer81 Yes - corpora are great tools. I'm not convinced though that most students have the required motivation. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T12:00:00 |
Next week is the final #eltchat of the semester (so school uniform optional) it’ll be at 21.00 BST |
| michaelegriffin |
2014-06-18T12:00:21 |
@idc74 I've had some success with super keen learners who got some initial help/scaffolding from me #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T12:00:22 |
@bealer81 Yes, great chat today! Tech always generates lots of ideas #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T12:00:29 |
RT @Shaunwilden: Next week is the final #eltchat of the semester (so school uniform optional) it’ll be at 21.00 BST |
| ELTchat |
2014-06-18T12:00:38 |
RT @Shaunwilden: Next week is the final #eltchat of the semester (so school uniform optional) it’ll be at 21.00 BST |
| mary28sou |
2014-06-18T12:01:05 |
Thanks everyone! #eltchat |
| HadaLitim |
2014-06-18T12:01:22 |
Bye everyone and thanks for joining another buzzing chat :D #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
2014-06-18T12:01:23 |
Thanks for joining this week’s #eltchat see you next week |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T12:01:31 |
Oh! #eltchat time is over!!! Thanks for another thought inspiring chat fellow teachers. Lot to chew on till we meet again. |
| NewbieCELTA |
2014-06-18T12:01:40 |
#eltchat thanks all for a nice morning chat! Good use of subway time :) #ELTontheMBTA http://t.co/DOXzYNlqSH |
| teflgeek |
2014-06-18T12:01:42 |
RT @HadaLitim Bye everyone and thanks for joining another buzzing chat :D #eltchat - likewise! |
| idc74 |
2014-06-18T12:01:42 |
@michaelegriffin That's good. I guess an enthusiastic, motivated teacher can lead to motivated, enthusiastic students. #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
2014-06-18T12:01:55 |
Rt @idc74 Yes - corpora are great tools. I'm not convinced though that most students have the required motivation. #eltchat >agreed |
| bealer81 |
2014-06-18T12:02:03 |
RT @HadaLitim: Bye everyone and thanks for joining another buzzing chat :D #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
2014-06-18T12:02:18 |
RT @Shaunwilden: Next week is the final #eltchat of the semester (so school uniform optional) it’ll be at 21.00 BST > #eltindia late night. |
| michaelegriffin |
2014-06-18T12:03:16 |
@idc74 @bealer81 also seeing just how useful the tools can be seemed helpful #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
2014-06-18T12:04:42 |
RT @idc74: @michaelegriffin @bealer81 Yes - corpora are great tools. I'm not convinced though that most students have the required motivati… |
| michaelegriffin |
2014-06-18T12:06:47 |
RT @NewbieCELTA: Any ELT/Public Transport geeks out there see my #ELTontheMTA (NYC) and #ELTontheMBTA hashtags #eltchat #linguisticlandscap… |
| davidboydon |
2014-06-18T12:15:41 |
@patrickelt Agree but lots of TECH upskilling is based on keen interest. Beacuse it's vital, I think it should be embedded in ELT #eltchat |
| lexicoloco |
2014-06-18T12:16:54 |
RT @bealer81: If there was one piece of tech I would get every teacher to use it would be online corpus. So much info and easy to access. #… |
| NikkiFortova |
2014-06-18T12:19:30 |
Can anyone recommend any good literature on the use of tablets in language learning? Theory/practical application welcome. #eltchat #edtech |
| joedale |
2014-06-18T12:25:23 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @joedale In #eltchat today snapchat was mentioned, do you know anyone using it to aid language learning? |
| Toupietwopi |
2014-06-18T12:26:18 |
snapchat à usage péda ? RT @Shaunwilden: @joedale In #eltchat snapchat was mentioned, do you know anyone using it to aid language learning? |
| Morteacher |
2014-06-18T12:29:42 |
#eltchat Hi all ! |
| michaelegriffin |
2014-06-18T12:32:16 |
Using online corpus tools to check intuitions http://t.co/OU75EyTsfg (v old post) #ELTchat cc @idc74 @LahiffP @mary28sou @bealer81 |
| lexicoloco |
2014-06-18T12:48:34 |
RT @michaelegriffin: Using online corpus tools to check intuitions http://t.co/OU75EyTsfg (v old post) #ELTchat cc @idc74 @LahiffP @mary28s… |
| muranava |
2014-06-18T12:53:34 |
RT @michaelegriffin: Using online corpus tools to check intuitions http://t.co/OU75EyTsfg (v old post) #ELTchat cc @idc74 @LahiffP @mary28s… |
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