| 8:57 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Please get ready for our next #ELTchat in abt 5 mins Talking about Teaching Mixed Ability Classes - Are you ready to go? #eltchat |
| 8:57 pm |
tarabenwell: |
RT @Marisa_C: Please get ready for our next #ELTchat in abt 5 mins Talking about Teaching Mixed Ability Classes - Are you ready to go? #eltchat |
| 8:58 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Countdown to #ELTchat is approx 5 minutes!! Great topic tonight -Mixed Ability Classess- we have all experienced them, so lots to share! |
| 8:58 pm |
Fuertesun: |
Ready and waiting #ELTchat |
| 8:58 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Am having trouble with Tweetdeck and am on tweetchat.com #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 8:59 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@Marisa_C I'm ready to go #ELTchat and looking forward to a great session! |
| 8:59 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@janetbianchini Hi Janet #ELTchat |
| 9:00 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Twitter is over capacity #ELTchat - are you all OK with tweetdeck? #eltchat |
| 9:00 pm |
cioccas: |
@janetbianchini @Fuertesun Hi Janet & Leahn and all #ELTchat |
| 9:00 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Is there a difference in hashtag #ELTchat or #eltchat ?? Hopefully both are ok? |
| 9:00 pm |
cioccas: |
@cioccas I'm okay Marisa #eltchat |
| 9:01 pm |
lauraesol: |
#ELTchat |
| 9:01 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@Fuertesun HI Leahn - nice to see you this evening! #ELTchat |
| 9:01 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@cioccas Hi there #ELTchat |
| 9:01 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@Marisa_C I don't have tweetdeck so all my tweets are manual, so hopefully it will be ok! #ELTchat |
| 9:02 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@cioccas Hi there! What time is it in Australia?? #ELTchat |
| 9:02 pm |
fionamau: |
@Marisa_C Struggling. keeps saying there's a Twitter problem..I'll be lurking half the time anyway. dinner to prepare.How r u all? #eltchat |
| 9:02 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @Marisa_C: Twitter is over capacity #ELTchat - are you all OK with tweetdeck? Gosh nothing seems to work! #eltchat |
| 9:03 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Hello everyone and welcome to #ELTchat - for the next hour my tweets will be about Teaching Mixed Ability Classes and updates slow! #eltchat |
| 9:03 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@janetbianchini U 2 #ELTchat |
| 9:03 pm |
cioccas: |
@janetbianchini 8am here in Canberra! and you Janet? #eltchat |
| 9:03 pm |
tarabenwell: |
Twitter not working for me. I finally made it to #ELTChat. boo |
| 9:03 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@lauraesol Hi - nice to see you on #ELTchat this evening! |
| 9:03 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Am getting fail whale here #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:03 pm |
cioccas: |
#ELTchat - for the next hour my tweets will be about Teaching Mixed Ability Classes and updates slow! #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm |
lolonagi: |
am also having troble with tweetdeck :( # eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm |
cioccas: |
@Marisa_C I'm getting a lot of Twitter API is temporarily unavailable messages here #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Marisa_C: Twitter is over capacity #ELTchat - are you all OK with tweetdeck? Gosh nothing seems to work! #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@lauraesol Hi there #ELTchat |
| 9:04 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
@Marisa_C what's fail whale? #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
Trying to post but it wont let me :-( #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Yes, it seems to be a bit slow tonight and my tweets are lagging behind #ELTchat |
| 9:04 pm |
lolonagi: |
Hi, guys beautiful evening in Cairo#eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm |
SueannaN: |
Hi everyone. Marisa I've followed you onto tweetchat. I have probs with twitter tonight #Eltchat |
| 9:04 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@lolonagi hi #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:05 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Go to tweetchat.com and log in with your twitter account #ELTchat - works but is a bit slower #eltchat |
| 9:05 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@SueAnnan Hi Sue #Eltchat |
| 9:05 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@cioccas It's 10pm here We are ready for #ELTchat lift off!! |
| 9:05 pm |
tarabenwell: |
@bcnpaul1 @Marisa_C Do they not still do fail whale? #ELTChat |
| 9:05 pm |
cioccas: |
@SueAnnan Things have speeded up on my Tweetdeck now #eltchat |
| 9:05 pm |
lauraesol: |
#ELTchat don't have tweetdeck and looking forward to my first chat! |
| 9:05 pm |
cioccas: |
@lauraesol Welcome to #eltchat Laura! |
| 9:06 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@lauraesol Tweetdeck makes it easier maybe next time #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
@lauraesol welcome laura #eltchat |
| 9:06 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @Fuertesun: @lauraesol Tweetdeck makes it easier maybe next time #ELTchat Not when its not working! ;-) |
| 9:06 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@tarabenwell yes they still do fail whale #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:06 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@Shaunwilden yes there's always that! #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Good evening everyone on #ELTchat For next hour my tweets are dedicated to chatting re MIxed Ability classes |
| 9:06 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
ah! got in at last, web, tweetdeck all dead at the moment :( #eltchat - hi everyone! #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm |
SueannaN: |
not tonight it doesn't #Eltchat |
| 9:07 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @janetbianchini: Good evening everyone on #ELTchat For next hour my tweets are dedicated to chatting re MIxed Ability classes |
| 9:07 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
tweetdeck seems to be working for me at the mo #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@cerirhiannon evening #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @bcnpaul1: tweetdeck seems to be working for me at the mo #eltchat it seems to have got better over the last few minutes |
| 9:07 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@bcnpaul1 me too #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
#eltchat for the next hour my tweets will be about Teaching Mixed Ability classes! |
| 9:07 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@lauraesol Welcome Laura to #ELTchat HOpe you have fun! |
| 9:07 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
Anyway shall we try and talk mixed ability? #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@lauraesol Welcome Laura! So what's mixed ability - only different levels of achievement in same class? #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@MsAxthelm evening #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
will someone please follow or unfollow me - I have 666 followers which i find a bit unnerving!! #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm |
lolonagi: |
: Good evening everyone on #ELTchat For next hour my tweets are dedicated to chatting re MIxed Ability classes #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@Marisa_C Different levls of achievement or different levels? #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm |
cioccas: |
RT @Fuertesun: @Marisa_C Different levls of achievement or different levels? #ELTchat #eltchat<Both? |
| 9:08 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @bcnpaul1: tweetdeck seems to be working for me at the mo #eltchat it seems to have got better over the last few minutes |
| 9:08 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
@Fuertesun hi! #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
@Fuertesun Afternoon! (Mountain time for me :) ) #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm |
A_Grundtvig: |
Hi #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @Fuertesun: @Marisa_C Different levls of achievement or different lvls? #ELTchat I think different levels is a different issues |
| 9:09 pm |
tarabenwell: |
@Marisa_C Also classes where some are very strong in writing while others are much stronger in speaking. #ELTChat |
| 9:09 pm |
educationland: |
First we should answer this question what isthe definition of a mixed ability class? #ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm |
janetbianchini: |
It's all sorts - different levels/ different needs / different mixtures #ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @educationland: First we should answer this question what isthe definition of a mixed ability class? #ELTchat Agreed |
| 9:09 pm |
TheHelpGroup: |
Hello #ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
tweetchat is annoyingly slow - think I'm going to just quietly lurk for the moment #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @cerirhiannon: tweetchat is annoyingly slow - think I'm going to just quietly lurk for the moment #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm |
grahamstanley: |
Joining the discussion about MIxed Ability classes on #eltchat tonight - hello everyone! |
| 9:10 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @SueAnnan: Are we actually discussing mixed level classes? #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
RT @janetbianchini: It's all sorts - different levels/ different needs / different mixtures #ELTchat |
| 9:10 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@grahamstanley hi #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
I thin we may be discussing mixed ability twitter platforms :) #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm |
sandymillin: |
Bit late for #eltchat tonight - just got home. Going to try to catch up |
| 9:10 pm |
cioccas: |
RT @tarabenwell: @Marisa_C Also classes where some are very strong in writing while others are much stronger in speaking. #ELTChat |
| 9:10 pm |
fionamau: |
RT @cerirhiannon: tweetchat is annoyingly slow - think I'm going to just quietly lurk for the moment #eltchat #eltchat >same here.impossible |
| 9:10 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@sandymillin just started don't worry #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @sandymillin: Bit late for #eltchat tonight - just got home. Going to try to catch up You've not missed much as tweetdeck being a pain |
| 9:10 pm |
SueannaN: |
@sandymillin haven't missed much - twitter problems #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
#ELTchat gosh, this is slow... |
| 9:11 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
@grahamstanley hope yr not following #eltchat from a foursquare BC location :) #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm |
Fuertesun: |
So same level just diff abilities? #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@grahamstanley Hello Graham - my stream is very slow - moderating with me this evening is @Shaunwilden & @janetbianchini #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm |
SueannaN: |
@Fuertesun Isn't that normal though? #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @Fuertesun: So same level just diff abilities? #eltchat 4 me it is just different abilities |
| 9:11 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @janetbianchini: Good evening everyone on #ELTchat For next hour my tweets are dedicated to chatting re MIxed Ability classes |
| 9:12 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
as Shaun said on blog - same level different abilities = all classes #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm |
fionamau: |
#eltchat Mixed abilities, right? A term that has changed meaning radically in Spain mainstream ed recently. Makes classwork more challenging |
| 9:12 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
i have sts who have been to uk and have a v.good level of speaking but v.bad level of writing / grammar etc. #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm |
janetbianchini: |
All classes by nature are mixed ability - high / medium /low level ability in each class, don't you think? #ELTchat |
| 9:12 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@SueAnnan yes I thought we meant diff levls within one class #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @bcnpaul1: will someone please follow or unfollow me - I have 666 followers which i find a bit unnerving!! #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
RT @Fuertesun: @SueAnnan yes I thought we meant diff levls within one class #eltchat > me too |
| 9:13 pm |
cioccas: |
Mike's suggest for disc was: "...more/less able Ss who are fantastic at one particular aspect of the language not so good at others #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
#ELTchat for me, I teach different levels and different abilities within levels all in one class. |
| 9:13 pm |
cioccas: |
RT @MsAxthelm: #ELTchat for me, I teach different levels and different abilities within levels all in one class. <Me too! |
| 9:13 pm |
Fuertesun: |
Can we clear this up? Upper Int say with diff abilities of Upper int and pre in same class? #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm |
tarabenwell: |
How do you challenge those who seem too high for your class? #ELTchat |
| 9:13 pm |
lolonagi: |
@bcnpaul1 me three #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @janetbianchini: All classes by nature are mixed ability - high / medium /low level ability in each class > absolutely #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @bcnpaul1 RT @Fuertesun: @SueAnnan yes I thought we meant diff levls within one class #eltchat> me too |
| 9:14 pm |
aClilToClimb: |
#eltchat evening all. Can't stay as it's dindin time ;) I find mixed ability a constant nightmare |
| 9:14 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @bcnpaul1: RT @Fuertesun: @SueAnnan yes I thought we meant diff levls within one class #eltchat > me too > me three :) #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm |
cioccas: |
Maybe good at speaking, not so good writing or vice versa #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @janetbianchini: yes I thought we meant diff levls within one class #eltchat > Interesting, to me that is a totally different thing |
| 9:14 pm |
sandymillin: |
#eltchat Looks like I didn't miss anything! There was a seminar on mixed-ability at our conf. on Saturday. Have the notes here... |
| 9:14 pm |
theteacherjames: |
I think all classes are to some extent mixed. There will always be a range of abilities across different disciplines. #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@cioccas Or visual learners or auditory etc? #ELTchat Good learners and not so good? #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @cioccas: Maybe good at speaking, not so good writing or vice versa #eltchat Yes thats how I see the term mixed ability |
| 9:15 pm |
cioccas: |
Suggestion for disc was: "...more/less able Ss who are fantastic at one particular aspect of the language not so good at others #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @cioccas: Maybe good at speaking, not so good writing or vice versa #eltchatYes thats how I see the term mixed ability |
| 9:15 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
mixed ability in pls v different to mixed ability in mainstream education #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm |
A_Grundtvig: |
Do we have any non-mixed ability classes? #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm |
aClilToClimb: |
oops #eltchat but what usu works 4 me is when i bring kids into the puter lab |
| 9:15 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
#eltchat Most of my students have reached a level of proficient speaking, but vary greatly in listening, reading and writing... |
| 9:15 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @cerirhiannon: mixed ability in pls v different to mixed ability in mainstream education #eltchat#eltchat |
| 9:15 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @Shaunwilden RT @cioccas: Maybe good at speaking, not so good writing or vice versa #eltchatYes thats how I see the term mixed ability |
| 9:15 pm |
sandymillin: |
#eltchat Mixed ability is>different levels of active / passive vocab/grammar/cultural knowledge(L1 and L2)/skills |
| 9:16 pm |
theteacherjames: |
@Shaunwilden @cioccas Or maybe even things like critical and analytical skills? #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@sandymillin all classes then? #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
So it seems that some see it a different levels and other same levels different levels of skill #eltchat bit confusing can we stick to 1? |
| 9:16 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @A_Grundtvig: Do we have any non-mixed ability classes? > Not really - may be for a week of so if streamed carefully? #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm |
ELTmethods: |
Hi there. Joining you on mixed ability. Every class is mixed ab. It doesn't matter how homogenous it seems. #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm |
sandymillin: |
#eltchat ...but also maturity levels/concentration span/energy levels/short and long-term memory/social skills/attitudes to Eng...! |
| 9:16 pm |
lolonagi: |
@MsAxthelm this is true for abilities #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @Shaunwilden: So it seems that some see it a different levels and other same levels different levels of skill #eltchat bit confusing can we stick to 1? |
| 9:17 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @theteacherjames - all classes are to some extent mixed.There will always be range of abilities across different disciplines #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm |
sandymillin: |
@Fuertesun So yes, pretty much all classes are mixed-ability in one way or another (except 1-2-1!) #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm |
fionamau: |
RT @sandymillin: #eltchat ...but also maturity levels/concentration span/energy levels/short and long-term memory/social skills/attitudes to Eng...! |
| 9:17 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
mixed ability then and not mixed levels? #eltchat (maybe do that in a separate chat?) #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@sandymillin Wires crossed tonight I see mixed ability as diff levels #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
true - there really are no non-mixed ability classes. The problem is that in ELT we think they shd be #eltchat |
| 9:18 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @ELTmethods Hi there. Joining you on mixed ability. Every class is mixed ab. It doesn't matter how homogenous it seems. #eltchat -agree! |
| 9:18 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
@lolonagi True. #eltchat |
| 9:18 pm |
cioccas: |
The proposed topic in #eltchat was students with mixed abilities, strong in one area, weak in another, that was my understanding |
| 9:18 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @bcnpaul1: true - there really are no non-mixed ability classes. The problem is that in ELT we think they shd be #eltchat Yes:-) |
| 9:18 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@Fuertesun I don't think we have to stick to one - I'll go with everything #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:18 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @cioccas: The proposed topic in #eltchat was students with mixed abilities, strong in one area, weak in another, that was my understanding |
| 9:18 pm |
springrose12: |
@Marisa_C @cioccas and prepares different level worksheets for them. For beginners use of 1st language translation works wonders #eltchat |
| 9:18 pm |
cioccas: |
We have some Ss who can communicate speaking but can't read or write at all , even in L1 #eltchat |
| 9:18 pm |
lolonagi: |
I think most of us encountered mixed abilities in the same class with in the same level#eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:18 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@Marisa_C surely teaching mixed ability in the first sense is just teching none of us are the same #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm |
A_Grundtvig: |
How do you deal with mixed-level classes? #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @Fuertesun: @Marisa_C surely teaching mixed ability in the first sense is just teching none of us are the same #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm |
fionamau: |
#eltchat There are teachers who teach the class, and teachers who wail that 'my students aren't at the level'? (cont) http://deck.ly/~dGley |
| 9:19 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
RT @fionamau: Do you think so? Or is it just the admin bods that do? think t's expect sts to be more or less the same in all areas #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @cioccas: The proposed topic in #eltchat was students with mixed abilities, strong in one area, weak in another, that was my understanding |
| 9:19 pm |
cioccas: |
... and we have some Ss who know the grammar and can read & write but not communicate speaking #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm |
theteacherjames: |
Wr have time for both strands, don't we? #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@cioccas strenghts and weaknesses then #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm |
sandymillin: |
@Fuertesun I was surprised at # of definitions involved in mixed ability seminar - hadn't considered them b4 -used 2thnk levels #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@Marisa_C Same here! I'll go with anything too! #eltchat Put it all "in the mix" tonight! |
| 9:19 pm |
educationland: |
RT @sandymillin: #eltchat Mixed ability is>different levels of active / passive vocab/grammar/cultural knowledge(L1 and L2)/skills |
| 9:19 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@springrose12 Different worksheets for everyone is the standard advice in mixed level teaching orthodoxy #ELTchat Is that viable? #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm |
lolonagi: |
@A_Grundtvig by varying the activities #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
the issue is that there is v.little prep for teachers in elt going into the classroom. #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm |
grahamstanley: |
RT @bcnpaul1: RT @Fuertesun: @SueAnnan yes I thought we meant diff levls within one class #eltchat > me too>and me! |
| 9:20 pm |
springrose12: |
@cioccas Still valid for them. More reading and writing exercises for them or pair group work/more able helps less able #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@sandymillin funny huh took it as given that we're all diff with diff strenths and weakneses #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm |
educationland: |
RT @tarabenwell: How do you challenge those who seem too high for your class? #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@A_Grundtvig #eltchat Lots of group work and mingles work very well for mixed abilities |
| 9:21 pm |
sandymillin: |
@Fuertesun Different yes, but sometimes you forget just how many things mixed ability encompasses #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@sandymillin teach mainstream we have a lot of diffs aspergers, downs and plenty more stuff in the mix #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
@fionamau yes it's true, but I mean when there is a BIG gap & sts really aren't at the level for the class. How do u teach them #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Vary and balance activities in a lesson always good advice - give all a chance to shine at something #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @Marisa_C: Vary and balance activities in a lesson always good advice - give all a chance to shine at something #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm |
lolonagi: |
@educationland @tarabenwell people say make them team leader of other students or helpers #eltchat#eltchat |
| 9:22 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
mixed levels: tasks that work at different levels - contents come from ss - peer teaching - peer support - multi-tasking #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm |
fionamau: |
#eltchat I reckon sometimes it's the assumptions about sts that are off, rather thn their 'level'.How do we stream bottom-up AND top-down? |
| 9:22 pm |
sandymillin: |
@Fuertesun That's a big diff then - I teach at private lang. school - much more homogenous classes than you have I think #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm |
springrose12: |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Yes, this is what we're expected to do. Maybe not different worksheets but different objectives &outcome #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@Marisa_C yes very multiple intelligence like too? #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @SueAnnan: Difft worksheets for e/one is the standard advice...does it work? well if they have hours to make so many w/sheets! #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm |
cioccas: |
RT @Marisa_C: Vary and balance activities in a lesson always good advice - give all a chance to shine at something #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@tarabenwell #eltchat I would give them more difficult tasks and objectives to achieve within same time span as weaker ones |
| 9:22 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
#ELTchat I find grammar difficult to teach mixed ability - perhaps b/c I think it needs direct instruction? |
| 9:22 pm |
ELTmethods: |
We all have this great diversity in our classes and somehow need to cope with it #eltchat. |
| 9:22 pm |
grahamstanley: |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @SueAnnan: Difft worksheets for e/one is the standard advice...does it work? well if they have hours to make so many w/sheets! #eltchat |
| 9:23 pm |
shaznosel: |
#eltchat what about ss with learning difficulties in class.eg.dyslexia |
| 9:23 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
sometimes the problem is when we compare sts to others in the class not with what they should be able to do for the level #eltchat |
| 9:23 pm |
theteacherjames: |
A st. centred approach is key. They can be given responsibility for creating their own tasks, choosing their own reading & so on. #eltchat |
| 9:23 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @Marisa_C: Vary and balance activities in a lesson always good advice - give all a chance to shine at something #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:23 pm |
Fuertesun: |
diff wksheets for all just not practical in mianstream with 30 kids and so much diffrence #eltchat |
| 9:23 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
I think you have to use the sts as much as possible, let them tell you, tell each other etc #eltchat |
| 9:23 pm |
sandymillin: |
#eltchat Also same worksheet, different ways 2 exploit: e.g. for YLs - write minimum 3 sentences (allows stronger to write more) |
| 9:23 pm |
educationland: |
When we made worksheet ,we should take in consideration of different levels students have .#ELTchat |
| 9:23 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@bcnpaul1 Gd question when gaps too big at some points in lesson differentiate tasks/activities/focus/time allowed/support #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:23 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
just started teaching mainstream last year high school - same exam, different levels - big challenge! #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm |
Fuertesun: |
peer teaching and buddy systems good #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@springrose12 Yes, different objectives and outcomes could work very well #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm |
educationland: |
When we made Exam or Quiz ,we should take in consideration of different levels students have .#ELTchat |
| 9:24 pm |
theteacherjames: |
@grahamstanley @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan Why not get them to create their own worksheets? #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
RT @cerirhiannon: just started teaching mainstream last year high school - same exam, different levels - big challenge! #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@cerirhiannon oh yes I know what u mean #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm |
ELTmethods: |
You can focus on the tasks. These should be flexible in terms of level and aims. #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @Fuertesun: peer teaching and buddy systems good #eltchat Good ideas :-) |
| 9:24 pm |
grahamstanley: |
one of my students tells me that there's a group of kids in his English class at school who are left alone by teacher #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm |
A_Grundtvig: |
RT @lolonagi: @A_Grundtvig by varying the activities #eltchat #eltchat - so isn't the same true of any ability be it level, MI or skill? |
| 9:24 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @Fuertesun: diff wksheets for all just not practical in mianstream with 30 kids and so much diffrence > agree #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm |
lolonagi: |
@Fuertesun yes totally agree on peer coaching #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @theteacherjames: @grahamstanley @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan Why not get them to create their own worksheets? #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm |
sandymillin: |
#eltchat Also, try not to work in lockstep all the time - give SS to free to work at their own pace |
| 9:25 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
Interesting...RT @theteacherjames: @grahamstanley @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan Why not get them to create their own worksheets? #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @theteacherjames: Why not get them to create their own worksheets? #eltchat I do, much more productive and useful way of doing thingss |
| 9:25 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
RT @grahamstanley: 1 of my sts tells me that there's a group of kids in his English class at school who are left alone by teacher #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm |
educationland: |
RT @theteacherjames: @grahamstanley @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan Why not get them to create their own worksheets? #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@Fuertesun but task differentiation OK not always necessary to have diff worksheets #ELTchat#eltchat |
| 9:25 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @ELTmethods: You can focus on the tasks. These should be flexible in terms of level and aims. > yes and s-centredhelps #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @sandymillin: #eltchat Also, try not to work in lockstep all the time - all the time - I'd say as little time as possible hate lockstep |
| 9:26 pm |
waykatewit: |
#Eltchat I'm sure the same worksheet can be used in different ways, no need to create separate levels. |
| 9:26 pm |
grahamstanley: |
project work can be a good answer - it lends itself to mixed abilities #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm |
ELTmethods: |
Negative example: Think about gap fills. There the gap really opens up. #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Very strong ss can be asked to mentor others #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@Marisa_C yes and simple things like some kids only have to answer 3 questions #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
#eltchat How do you respond to writing with many different levels? |
| 9:26 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
project work at some point in the class. allows sts to work at their own pac & t's achance to give extra attention #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Using online activities is a very good way to accommodate the different levels. Same topics but different levels #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
RT @janetbianchini: Using online activities is a v. good way to accommodate the different levels. Same topics but different levels #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm |
fionamau: |
RT @Shaunwilden @sandymillin: #eltchat try not to work in lockstep all the time // I'd say as little time as possible hate lockstep> agreed |
| 9:26 pm |
sandymillin: |
@MsAxthelm tend to respond to what I know the SS abilities are wherever possible - is this good work for him / her not 4 the class #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @sandymillin: #eltchat Also, try not to work in lockstep all the time - Id say little time as possible #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm |
educationland: |
RT @ELTmethods: You can focus on the tasks. These should be flexible in terms of level and aims. #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm |
lolonagi: |
RT @bcnpaul1: project work at some point in the class. allows Ss to work at their own pac &ts achance to give extra attention agree #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm |
grahamstanley: |
RT @bcnpaul1: RT @janetbianchini: Using online activities is a v. good way to accommodate the different levels. Same topics but different levels #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@Fuertesun Right ! Some Ss do 3 some 5 items - some can be given diff exercises from coursebook #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
Why do we need w/sheets? Use the WB for e.g.s then ask the class to work in groups, they will show u the extent of their knowledge #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @Marisa_C Very strong ss can be asked to mentor others #ELTchat #eltchat - yes, I agree |
| 9:27 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
@bcnpaul1 I thought project would wk, but found Ss racing to the minimum! 3rd quarter is tough, though. #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm |
fionamau: |
RT @Marisa_C: Very strong ss can be asked to mentor others #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm |
sandymillin: |
@Fuertesun I do this (only answer 3 questions) but how do you stop SS feeling bad / other SS feeling like they have 2 do more work #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm |
theteacherjames: |
@MsAxthelm Identify the level of that st and check accordingly. limit feedback to what they require. #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @janetbianchini: RT @Marisa_C Very strong ss can be asked to mentor others #ELTchat #eltchat - yes, I agree #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm |
Fuertesun: |
Mixed ability takes on NEW menaing once u work in mainstream education #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm |
waykatewit: |
#Eltchat different home assignments also work. I get the weaker ones buy a lower-level grammar for self-study (brush-up) |
| 9:28 pm |
fionamau: |
RT @Marisa_C: Very strong ss can be asked to mentor others #ELTchat >> Yep. And most sts have a strong area,something to contribute. |
| 9:28 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @bcnpaul1: project work allows Ss to work at their own pace & ts a chance to give extra attention agree #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
Do open ended activities e.g. rather than spot the difference do find the similarities #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm |
cioccas: |
@sandymillin More 'able' Ss sometimes resent mentoring or shat they see as 'carrying' others - what to do? #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@sandymillin yes that's part of the problem ends up like labelling #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
RT @MsAxthelm: @bcnpaul1 I thought project would wk, but found Ss racing to the minimum! 3rd quarter is tough, though. #eltchat > yes true |
| 9:29 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
@sandymillin How teach to ability with responses? I try to find common weaknesses, but get bogged down with so many! #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@fionamau nice idea - or allow them a copy of the CD to listen at home #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm |
fionamau: |
RT @grahamstanley: project work can be a good answer - it lends itself to mixed abilities #eltchat>agreed, giving sts clear roles 2 fulfill |
| 9:29 pm |
lolonagi: |
@sandymillin I think Ss know that they have problems in something, the most imp thing is 2 make them feel safe in class #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm |
theteacherjames: |
RT @Shaunwilden: Why do we need w/sheets? Use WB for egs then ask class to work in groups, they will show u their knowledge #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm |
adricarv: |
Encourage co-operation rather than competion #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm |
sandymillin: |
@MsAxthelm So pick 3 or 4 to focus on, get them down, then another few later #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm |
shaznosel: |
#eltchat. peer monitoring/tronger ss helping weaker is great for team spirit. Relieves boredom and helps weaker ss. |
| 9:29 pm |
cioccas: |
RT @lolonagi: I think Ss know that they have problems in something, the most imp thing is 2 make them feel safe in class #eltchat < agree |
| 9:29 pm |
Fuertesun: |
we have system where strong help weaker now the strong are playing up and misbehaving!#eltchat |
| 9:29 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Do lots of quizzes with groups -mix the abilities deliberately-they all help each other- competition is great focus and motivation #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm |
ELTmethods: |
I think pacing is important. Don't always wait until the very last one has finished their task #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm |
fionamau: |
RT @Fuertesun: @Marisa_C yes and simple things like some kids only have to answer 3 questions #ELTchat >> Or "Write at least 5 sentences..." |
| 9:29 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
RT @sandymillin: I do this (only answer 3 qs) but how do you stop SS feeling bad / other SS feeling like they have 2 do more work #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@cioccas For Ss who resent weaker Ss or are intolerant the answer is in building excellent group dynamis #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm |
educationland: |
@Shaunwilden WB is an ideal solution especially if we allow Group work to answer the excercises.#ELTchat |
| 9:30 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @adricarv: Encourage co-operation rather than competion #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm |
cioccas: |
RT @sandymillin: I do this (only answer 3 qs) but how do you stop SS feeling bad / other SS feeling like they have 2 do more work #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm |
adricarv: |
Sorry, I meant encourage co-operation rather than competition #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
@MsAxthelm sometimes if sts take full responsibility for choice of topic & plan well beforehand but agree that s'times its no good #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @cioccas: RT @lolonagi: Ss know they have problems in something, most imp thing make them feel safe in class #eltchat < agree #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@Marisa_C we are going on a field trip tmrw to help with dynamics #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm |
sandymillin: |
#eltchat I like idea of stronger SS helping weaker, and it works in adult classes. But YLs and teens always refuse to do it. Suggestions? |
| 9:30 pm |
fionamau: |
RT @MsAxthelm: #eltchat How do you respond to writing with many different levels?> A lot of pre-writing ideas-storms and lots of drafting |
| 9:31 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
@theteacherjames So feedback has to be individual? #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @bcnpaul1: @MsAxthelm if sts take full responsibility for choice of topic & plan beforehand but agree that stimes its no good #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm |
sandymillin: |
@janetbianchini Like group quizzes too, but difficult to stop the stronger SS dominating. #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Give the key to weaker ss only - #ELTchat - make them responsible for telling others #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm |
springrose12: |
@Marisa_C @bcnpaul1 Ss need to see good and bad examples of projects &teacher's modelling before they embark on a project #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
Can you give example? RT @Shaunwilden: Do open ended activities e.g. rather than spot the difference do find the similarities #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @fionamau: RT @MsAxthelm: #eltchat How do you respond to writing ?> A lot of pre-writing ideas-storms and lots of drafting #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm |
lolonagi: |
@fionamau @MsAxthelm good idea in writing exs #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm |
sandymillin: |
@janetbianchini Also, they sometimes deliberately leave out SS they consider 'stupid' / 'slow' no matter how hard I try 2 avoid #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Yes, excellent group dynamics is fundamental in dealing with mixed ability classes - otherwise resentment can be destructive #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm |
fionamau: |
RT @Marisa_C: @Fuertesun some can be given diff exercises from coursebook #ELTchat Allow them to choose, say, three exs from wkbk page |
| 9:32 pm |
A_Grundtvig: |
RT @janetbianchini: Competition is great focus and motivation #eltchat Couldn't agree more |
| 9:32 pm |
shaznosel: |
#eltchat. twitter is overloaded..some can't get on line.. |
| 9:32 pm |
theteacherjames: |
I tried to encourage higher sts to take responsibility & challenge themselves. Sometimes they prefer the easier road though. #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
RT @springrose12: Ss need to see good and bad examples of projects &teacher's modelling before they embark on a project #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@MsAxthelm Open ended opposite to one correct answer #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @janetbianchini: Yes, excellent group dynamics is fundamental in dealing with mixed ability classes - otherwise resentment can be destructive #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm |
waykatewit: |
#Eltchat@sandymillin give points for helping the weaker :) |
| 9:32 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
RT @fionamau: RT @grahamstanley: project work can be a good answer #eltchat >agreed, giving sts clear roles 2 fulfill |
| 9:32 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
RT @sandymillin I think Ss know that they have problems in something, the most imp thing is 2 make them feel safe in class #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@fionamau yes great idea - choose which exs u want to do #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:33 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@sandymillin Get ss to create their own quizzes sometimes helps motivation to build a team spirit #eltchat |
| 9:33 pm |
cioccas: |
Find something weaker Ss excel at and make that the focus of an activity - can work a treat & builds confidence #eltchat |
| 9:33 pm |
ELTmethods: |
@sandymillin #eltchat don't fix the amount of items per task. Stronger st. can solve the more difficult tasks. |
| 9:33 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @Marisa_C: @fionamau yes great idea - choose which exs u want to do #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:33 pm |
lolonagi: |
@Fuertesun @janetbianchini very good but if those strong Ss do not want to help weaker Ss #eltchat#eltchat |
| 9:33 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @cioccas: Find something weaker Ss excel at and make that the focus of an activity - can work a treat & builds confidence #eltchat |
| 9:33 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
That's a good idea. Along w mentor? RT @sandymillin: @MsAxthelm So pick 3 or 4 to focus on, get them down, then another few later #eltchat |
| 9:33 pm |
educationland: |
which one is better for a mixed ability class using Excercises or Activities .Plz RT #ELTchat |
| 9:33 pm |
shaznosel: |
@Marisa_C #eltchat great idea about key but will other become resentful? |
| 9:33 pm |
juandoming: |
RT @todostartups Los Inversores en la Red http://bit.ly/fbuMqv #juandon #elearning #edchat #edtech#socialmedia #eltchat #lrnchat |
| 9:33 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Have a box of little extra whatsits for early finishers #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:33 pm |
cioccas: |
RT @lolonagi: @Fuertesun @janetbianchini very good but if those strong Ss do not want to help weaker Ss #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @Marisa_C: Have a box of little extra whatsits for early finishers #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@lolonagi takes time to build up working relationship all part of social competences #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @lolonagi: @Fuertesun @janetbianchini but if those strong Ss do not want to help weaker Ss #eltchat>need 2 find a way! #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
@Fuertesun This time of year is tough... #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @cioccas: Find something weaker Ss excel at and make that the focus of an activity - builds confidence #eltchat >agree |
| 9:34 pm |
toulasklavou: |
@shaznosel Finally! I'm in! #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@cioccas lots ot team activities where everyne has to suceed for them all to suceed #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
I shld do more of this RT @janetbianchini: Do lots of quizzes with groups -mix the abilities deliberately-they all help each other #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
It also helps to know your class and use monitoring effectively -find out which ansrs which sts know then call on them :-) #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@sandymillin Good point and that is tricky. Maybe I'd take them aside and have a quiet word re attitude to see what happens #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm |
adricarv: |
RT @cioccas Find something weaker Ss excel at and make that the focus of an activity - can work a treat & builds confidence #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm |
cioccas: |
Some Ss shine as mentors, others not so good - need to choose carefully so not to ruin confidence of those being mentored #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm |
Fuertesun: |
Promote the whole rather than individual #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Team building from start of year will generate more collaboration amongst different levels #ELTchat#eltchat |
| 9:35 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@cioccas yes def #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm |
cioccas: |
RT @Shaunwilden: helps to know your class and use monitoring effectively -find out which ansrs which sts know then call on them :-) #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm |
cioccas: |
RT @Fuertesun: Promote the whole rather than individual #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @Marisa_C: Team building from start of year will generate more collaboration amongst different levels #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
design open ended tasks that can be answered at sentence or text level (spoken or written) battle is to get all 2 stretch #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @Marisa_C: Team building from start of year will generate more collaboration amongst different levels #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
set up zonal teaching depending on strengths & weaknesses #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@Shaunwilden and don't ask ur weakest learners FIRST! #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
@bcnpaul1 True, buy in is key - this project didn't have that. Really notice the difference! #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm |
gutafranco: |
RT @juandoming: RT @todostartups Los Inversores en la Red http://bit.ly/fbuMqv #juandon #elearning#edchat #edtech #socialmedia #eltchat #lrnchat |
| 9:36 pm |
toulasklavou: |
when giving diff h/outs what's the explanation? Strong Ss say why some others get the easy ones? #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm |
lauraesol: |
#ELTchat Still here but having probs tweeting! It is difficult to differentiate with mixed levels |
| 9:36 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @Marisa_C: and don't ask ur weakest learners FIRST! #ELTchat #eltchat Unless thats their only answer ;-) |
| 9:36 pm |
fionamau: |
@cerirhiannon @bcnpaul1 @MsAxthelm agree that stimes no good #eltchat > also if they work in small groups ? (cont) http://deck.ly/~Q3TvI |
| 9:36 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@cioccas Give stronger students a reason to want to help weaker ones #eltchat Maybe pride in doing sth as a team eg an interactive poster |
| 9:36 pm |
shaznosel: |
#ELTCHAT - are classes organised just to age or ability?.you move up every year, no matter what.is this why we have the prob? |
| 9:37 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@toulasklavou we're all differnt and so we get different stuff #eltchat |
| 9:37 pm |
lolonagi: |
RT @bcnpaul1: set up zonal teaching depending on strengths & weaknesses> agree #eltchat |
| 9:37 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @janetbianchini: @cioccas Give stronger students a reason to want to help weaker ones #eltchat#eltchat |
| 9:37 pm |
fionamau: |
RT @janetbianchini: Yes, excellent group dynamics is fundamental in dealing with mixed ability classes - otherwise resentment can be destructive #eltchat |
| 9:37 pm |
nutrich: |
Work on develop language learning skills to foster autonomy #eltchat |
| 9:37 pm |
shaznosel: |
@Marisa_C #ELTCHAT- totally agree |
| 9:37 pm |
cioccas: |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @janetbianchini: @cioccas Give stronger students a reason to want to help weaker ones #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
@fionamau They love the pre-write, hate the drafting/editing. #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm |
cgoodey: |
RT @Shaunwilden: It also helps to know your class and use monitoring effectively -find out which ansrs which sts know then call on them :-) #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@shaznosel In some schools yes Ss mover up automatically - like bad managers only way is UP! #ELTchat :-D #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm |
lauraesol: |
#ELTchat I sometimes use millionnaire quiz in teams. Everyone joins in that easily |
| 9:38 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
There's lots of pairing strong with weak being talked about - why not pair the 'weak' with weak and strong with strong? #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm |
janetbianchini: |
#eltchat Creating a collaborative and dynamic group atmosphere which respects each individual is paramount but maybe not easy to achieve |
| 9:38 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
RT @lauraesol: #ELTchat I sometimes use millionnaire quiz in teams. Everyone joins in that easily |
| 9:38 pm |
web20education: |
#Google Moderator Helping the world find the best input from an audience of any size #edtech20#edtools http://t.co/DEwekqg #edchat #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm |
lolonagi: |
Give stronger students reason to want to help weak ones Maybe pride in doing sth as a teaman interactive poster, shld we say that? #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@Shaunwilden yes I prefer to have my strongs and weaks seperately #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm |
nutrich: |
RT @Marisa_C: @shaznosel In some schools yes ss mover up automatically - like bad managers only way is UP! #ELTchat | lol, sad but true! |
| 9:39 pm |
toulasklavou: |
@shaznosel In Greece, they're organised to age, no attention to needs and abilities, that's why so many probs #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm |
lolonagi: |
@bcnpaul1 @lauraesol millionaire quizz? #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
Yes. I need to work on that more. RT @Marisa_C: @MsAxthelm Open ended opposite to one correct answer #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@toulasklavou same here in Spain #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm |
cioccas: |
@Shaunwilden Agree re varying the pairing, and can work to pair strong writing w weaker speaking and vice versa #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
RT @Fuertesun: @Shaunwilden yes I prefer to have my strongs and weaks seperately #eltchat>definitely agree w/that esp. with yl's |
| 9:39 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
RT @Marisa_C: @fionamau yes great idea - choose which exs u want to do #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:40 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
use readers -ss read at own level - discuss stories & reactions 2different stories - all have a reason to contribute #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:40 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@Fuertesun but good teams have different skils/levels etc #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:40 pm |
nutrich: |
@Shaunwilden get ss used to both and change it up - one day weak/weak and another day weak/strong #eltchat |
| 9:40 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@bcnpaul1 I prefer it as a learner myself #eltchat |
| 9:40 pm |
cioccas: |
RT @nutrich: @Shaunwilden get ss used to both and change it up - one day weak/weak and another day weak/strong #eltchat < agree re variation |
| 9:40 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
RT @lolonagi: @bcnpaul1 @lauraesol millionaire quizz? #eltchat > who wants to be a millionaire. |
| 9:40 pm |
nutrich: |
RT @Marisa_C: @Fuertesun but good teams have different skils/levels etc #ELTchat | help ss become aware of their team strengths |
| 9:40 pm |
A_Grundtvig: |
Getting Ss to work together on long term projects can be an excellent way to harness different abilities. #eltchat |
| 9:40 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
use diff pairings for diff activities - *train* students to mentor #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm |
nutrich: |
RT @bcnpaul1: RT @lolonagi: @bcnpaul1 @lauraesol millionaire quizz? #eltchat > who wants to be a millionaire.| I do!! ; ) |
| 9:41 pm |
nutrich: |
RT @cerirhiannon: use diff pairings for diff activities - *train* students to mentor #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm |
cioccas: |
RT @cerirhiannon: use diff pairings for diff activities - *train* students to mentor #eltchat < Yes! |
| 9:41 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
@nutrich good teams? erm... :-) #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm |
toulasklavou: |
how realistic is it to organise classes accord to real needs, therefore have successful lang classes? what's the practice abroad? #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@nutrich @Marisa_C @Fuertesun Right! The football team coach approach! Pep talks and you are good for something! #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm |
nutrich: |
@Shaunwilden the spice of life!! ; ) #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
Lingo here calls these "sponge activities" RT @Marisa_C: Have a box of little extra whatsits for early finishers #ELTchat #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm |
janetbianchini: |
A solution to teaching mixed abilities - great post I found earlier http://tinyurl.com/5tf9ecg #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm |
cgoodey: |
RT @cerirhiannon: design open ended tasks that can be answered at sentence or text level (spoken or written) battle is to get all 2 stretch #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm |
grahamstanley: |
RT @janetbianchini: A solution to teaching mixed abilities - great post I found earlierhttp://tinyurl.com/5tf9ecg #eltchat |
| 9:42 pm |
lolonagi: |
RT @janetbianchini: A solution to teaching mixed abilities - great post I found earlierhttp://tinyurl.com/5tf9ecg #eltchat |
| 9:42 pm |
educationland: |
RT @toulasklavou: how realistic is it to organise classes accord to real needs, therefore have successful lang classes? what's the practice abroad? #eltchat |
| 9:42 pm |
shaznosel: |
@nutrich @Marisa_C #ELTCHAT. how to handle the bad management is the question.. |
| 9:42 pm |
cioccas: |
@toulasklavou We try, but needs & abilities so varied, and depends on numbers #eltchat |
| 9:42 pm |
nutrich: |
@Marisa_C @Fuertesun I like it, the 'Coach Approach'! #eltchat |
| 9:43 pm |
A_Grundtvig: |
How a mixed ability class of YLs made a nation http://bit.ly/ihMXzZ #eltchat |
| 9:43 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
RT @cerirhiannon: design open ended tasks that can be answered at sentence or text level battle is to get all 2 stretch #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:43 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
pitching the class against an external exam - how can we *beat* it together? foster group responsibility #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:43 pm |
NoraTouparlaki: |
RT @janetbianchini: A solution to teaching mixed abilities - great post I found earlierhttp://tinyurl.com/5tf9ecg #eltchat |
| 9:43 pm |
theteacherjames: |
@toulasklavou Mixed by level, not by age - This is what happens with adults (in theory). Why not kids? #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@theteacherjames U r talking about alanguage school? #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm |
adricarv: |
RT @janetbianchini A solution to teaching mixed abilities - great post I found earlierhttp://tinyurl.com/5tf9ecg #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm |
toulasklavou: |
@Fuertesun @shaznosel agree with Shaz, teens aren't so mature to accept diff treatment, they think sth goes wrong #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm |
lolonagi: |
http://www.onlinecollegeguru.com/blog/education/100-sponge-activities-2/ sponge activities #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm |
cgoodey: |
@Marisa_C @shaznosel Or learners come to UK from all over to local limited provision so mixed levels in the same group #ELTchat |
| 9:44 pm |
nutrich: |
@A_Grundtvig I remember being at one of your workshops on playland in Coimbra a few years back. Great stuff! #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm |
cioccas: |
RT @toulasklavou: @Fuertesun @shaznosel agree with Shaz, teens aren't so mature to accept diff treatment, they think sth goes wrong #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm |
web20education: |
#googleapps certification program #NEW 4 #edtech20 via @scoopit http://t.co/9hlEXPT #elearning#edchat #eltchat #elemchat #mathchat #ice11 |
| 9:44 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @theteacherjames: @toulasklavou Mixed by level, not by age Why not kids?>cos cognitive dev'ment equally (if not +) imp #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm |
SueannaN: |
@cgoodey Hi Carol #ELTchat |
| 9:44 pm |
cgoodey: |
RT @Shaunwilden: There's lots of pairing strong with weak being talked about - why not pair the 'weak' with weak and strong with strong? #eltchat |
| 9:45 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@toulasklavou but they need to learn so they need exposure to it surely? #eltchat |
| 9:45 pm |
english4hr: |
RT @adricarv: RT @janetbianchini A solution to teaching mixed abilities - great post I found earlierhttp://tinyurl.com/5tf9ecg #eltchat |
| 9:45 pm |
theteacherjames: |
@Fuertesun Any school where adults are learning they are grouped by ability not by age. #eltchat |
| 9:45 pm |
cgoodey: |
@SueAnnan Hi there! Couldn't get Tweetdeck to send my tweets for a while! #ELTchat |
| 9:45 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @theteacherjames: @toulasklavou Mixed by level, not by age - Why not kids? #eltchat lots of things cognitive development, maturity etc |
| 9:45 pm |
shaznosel: |
#ELTCHAT Good management/coaching is what competitions are all about. So weaker ss can prove themselves in other areas.. |
| 9:45 pm |
SueannaN: |
@cgoodey tell me about it! Nightmare tonight #ELTchat |
| 9:45 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @cgoodey: RT @Shaunwilden: why not pair the weak with weak and strong with strong? > that too - variety imp - and task #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm |
lolonagi: |
let's try #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Dealing with Difficulties - great book with lots of practical ideas http://tinyurl.com/63z3washttp://tinyurl.com/63z3was #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
#eltchat I can say the music video where Ss choose song and acted out lyrics worked really well - Some did figurative lang bet than others |
| 9:46 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@theteacherjames yes apart from some schools where they have over 50s and over 60s groups.. #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm |
toulasklavou: |
@theteacherjames This is utopia 4 us!so is teaching successful? #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@cerirhiannon sure but same level pairings all the time also discriminatory IMOHO #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm |
lolonagi: |
whe, teetdeck is working #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm |
theteacherjames: |
@sirkenrobinson talks about this industrial approach to education. We put kids together by date of manufacture, not by ability etc. #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm |
cgoodey: |
RT @cerirhiannon: use readers -ss read at own level - discuss stories & reactions 2different stories - all have a reason to contribute #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm |
educationland: |
Teaching Mixed Ability Language Courses http://t.co/Gm7lIYP #ELTchat |
| 9:46 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
@toulasklavou frustrating! #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm |
nutrich: |
Always important to not always think of strong and weak in terms of language - there are other things to consider #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon sure but same level pairings all the time also discriminatory IMOHO #eltchat totally agree!! |
| 9:46 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
RT @cioccas: @Shaunwilden Agree re varying the pairing, and can work to pair strong writing w weaker speaking and vice versa #eltchat |
| 9:47 pm |
cioccas: |
RT @nutrich: Always important to not always think of strong and weak in terms of language - there are other things to consider #eltchat |
| 9:47 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
yeah!!! tweetdeck working :)) #eltchat |
| 9:47 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @nutrich: Always imp to not always think of strong and weak in terms of language - there are other things to consider #eltchat So true |
| 9:47 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @cerirhiannon: yeah!!! tweetdeck working :)) #eltchat |
| 9:47 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @nutrich: Always imp to not always think of strong and weak in terms of language - there are other things to consider #eltchat So true |
| 9:47 pm |
waykatewit: |
RT @nutrich: Always important to not always think of strong and weak in terms of language - there are other things to consider #eltchat |
| 9:48 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
#eltchat Anyone use leveled books of same story to then discuss/compare? How did that go? |
| 9:48 pm |
toulasklavou: |
@Fuertesun can't do otherwise! #eltchat |
| 9:48 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
RT @theteacherjames: @toulasklavou Mixed by level, not by age - Why not kids? #eltchat lots of things cognitive development, maturity etc |
| 9:48 pm |
juandoming: |
{TITLE} http://t.co/SUEQKNN #juandon #elearning #edtech #edchat #education #eltchat #lrnchat#learning #web20 |
| 9:48 pm |
janetbianchini: |
In mill drills / melees / mingles all students can work at own pace and learn accordingly - no stress and great for the teacher #eltchat |
| 9:48 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@MsAxthelm do you mean diff level graded readers? #eltchat |
| 9:49 pm |
theteacherjames: |
@toulasklavou I don't teach kids, so I don't know. But why not aim high? #eltchat |
| 9:49 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @janetbianchini: In mill drills / melees / mingles all students can work at own pace and learn accordingly - no stress and great for the teacher #eltchat |
| 9:49 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Dictagloss activities can be adapted for different levels #eltchat Same text, different levels |
| 9:49 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
@toulasklavou Expected, bu always difficult. #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm |
nutrich: |
Has anybody mentioned graded homework and fast-finisher tasks? If not, I just did! #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm |
Marisa_C: |
If Ss mature enough/adults I think it's a good idea to confront the issue and tell them that is is normal and expected #ELTchat |
| 9:50 pm |
theteacherjames: |
RT @janetbianchini: Dictagloss activities can be adapted for different levels #eltchat Same text, different levels #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm |
lolonagi: |
so peer coaching, varying activities, using different books, to help diff Ss in dff. levels #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @Marisa_C: If Ss mature enough/adults I think it's a good idea to confront the issue and tell them that is is normal and expected #ELTchat |
| 9:50 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @Marisa_C: If Ss mature enough/adults I think it's a good idea to confront the issue and tell them that is is normal and expected #ELTchat |
| 9:50 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@theteacherjames Yes. Always aim higher rather than lower as that is challenging for everyone #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm |
nutrich: |
Has anybody mentioned graded homework and fast-finisher tasks? If not, I just did! Also, open-ended, personalised tasks for hwk. #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @theteacherjames: RT @janetbianchini: Dictagloss activities can be adapted for different levels #eltchat Sa? (cont) http://deck.ly/~CaLua |
| 9:51 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
@Fuertesun Yeah, same story, different reading level. #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm |
lauraesol: |
#ELTchat Sorry unable to tweet. When I worked in the community, it was always mixed ability and socialising was most important for the ss |
| 9:51 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@MsAxthelm never tried it but good idea #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm |
toulasklavou: |
Is it given that no matter what, some will be winners and some other losers re how much they've learnt? #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm |
Beyza: |
RT @ISILBOY: RT @ErenNesrin: You?ve Got Mail http://bit.ly/gOSEwE #ELTChat #ELT |
| 9:51 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @nutrich: Has anybody mentioned graded homework and fast-finisher tasks? If not, I just did! Also, open-ended, personalised tasks for hwk. #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@theteacherjames one group with lots of gaps another with fewer a third group with a blank sheet for dictogloss? #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm |
cioccas: |
@theteacherjames @janetbianchini: Dictagloss activities with pairs of strong writing + strong listening Ss work very well #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm |
waykatewit: |
don't we need the weaker ss to eventually catch up with the stronger ones? different tasks mean the strong necome stronger #Eltchat |
| 9:51 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @Marisa_C: If Ss mature enough/adults I think it's a good idea to confront the issue and tell them that is is normal and expected #ELTchat |
| 9:51 pm |
shaznosel: |
#eltchat Feedback/planning/flexibility - guess I could manage a football team! |
| 9:51 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@Marisa_C yes works well #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm |
nutrich: |
RT @Marisa_C: @theteacherjames one group with lots of gaps another with fewer a third group with a blank sheet for dictogloss? #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
RT @shaznosel: #eltchat Feedback/planning/flexibility - guess I could manage a football team! |
| 9:52 pm |
grahamstanley: |
interesting advice here on adapting materials for mixed ability classes @TeachingEnglish site too:http://tinyurl.com/6ct9byw #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Find someone who activities also work wonders - everyone is involved whatever the level. If weaker ss only ask a few ss, no problem #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
@cerirhiannon I could see how using different stories/retelling could be awesome. #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm |
theteacherjames: |
@Marisa_C Now that's an idea I like. Or different level ability pairs working together. #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @waykatewit: need the weaker ss to eventually catch up with the stronger ones?#Eltchat > catch up maybe no - improve to own abilities yes |
| 9:52 pm |
waykatewit: |
RT @nutrich: Has anybody mentioned graded homework and fast-finisher tasks? If not, I just did! Also, open-ended, personalised tasks for hwk. #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
RT @grahamstanley: interesting advice here on adapting materials for mixed ability classes :http://tinyurl.com/6ct9byw #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm |
cioccas: |
RT @Marisa_C: @theteacherjames one group with lots of gaps another with fewer a third group with a blank sheet for dictogloss? #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm |
SueannaN: |
RT @bcnpaul1: RT @grahamstanley: interesting advice here on adapting materials for mixed ability classes : http://tinyurl.com/6ct9byw #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @waykatewit: don't we need the weaker ss to eventually catch up with the stronger ones? different tasks mean the strong necome stronger #Eltchat |
| 9:53 pm |
lolonagi: |
http://bit.ly/gA3Nyu find this wiki for more activities on teaching #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Has anyone ever trying giving the same text simplified for weaker Ss - untampered for Stronger Ss? #Eltchat |
| 9:53 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @waykatewit: don't we need the weaker ss to eventually catch up with the stronger ones? different tasks mean the strong necome stronger #Eltchat |
| 9:53 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @lolonagi: http://bit.ly/gA3Nyu find this wiki for more activities on teaching #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
@MsAxthelm trying to set up a library plus online book club for next year - everyone reads - but at own pace and level #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
@janetbianchini Tx! #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm |
SueannaN: |
@Marisa_C yes. did something similar the other day. It worked well #Eltchat |
| 9:54 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @Marisa_C: Has anyone ever trying giving the same text simplified for weaker Ss - untampered for Stronger Ss? #Eltchat |
| 9:54 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
RT @Marisa_C: anyone tried the same text simplified for weaker Ss - untampered for Stronger Ss? #Eltchat > yes. onestopenglish news articles |
| 9:54 pm |
shaznosel: |
@toulasklavou #eltchat - sad but true |
| 9:54 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@bcnpaul1 yes they're good #Eltchat |
| 9:54 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
RT @nutrich: Always important to not always think of strong and weak in terms of language - there are other things to consider #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm |
alanmtait: |
Pairwork for mixed ability. Also bonds Ss socially :) #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm |
arganasta_: |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @lolonagi: http://bit.ly/gA3Nyu find this wiki for more activities on teaching #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm |
janetbianchini: |
The Guardian MIxed Ability works for everyone http://tinyurl.com/5t4x64k #eltchat reading for later :) |
| 9:55 pm |
grahamstanley: |
RT @Marisa_C: Has anyone ever given the same text simplified for weaker Ss - untampered for Stronger Ss? #Eltchat > I like it but extra work |
| 9:55 pm |
waykatewit: |
#Eltchat @cerirhiannon some of my students (provided the graded homework and indiv.apprc. did catch up (partially) |
| 9:55 pm |
lauraesol: |
#ELTchat Listening tasks work with words to delete for some and gap fill for others |
| 9:55 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
@cerirhiannon Nice - I am working on that, too. I am currently looking for graphic novels. #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm |
theteacherjames: |
@Marisa_C Similar - I let Ss bring a text, then skim the others from the class and pick 1 at a level they were comfortable with. #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm |
theteacherjames: |
@grahamstanley Then get the students to choose the texts! Worked great for me. #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm |
cgoodey: |
Important to try to recognise all Ss' strengths & preferred ways of learning. Point out what they've done well, personal progress. #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm |
janetbianchini: |
We have 5 mins left! #eltchat Any links to solutions and tips?? |
| 9:56 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
@Fuertesun I don't know if it is or not - I will let you know! (Worried about confidence issues...) #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm |
waykatewit: |
#Eltchat @Marisa_C got the weaker re-visit the same text at home - helps |
| 9:56 pm |
Marisa_C: |
How do you treat error correction and marking? Do you mark everyone same way? Are you more or less tolerant of error? #ELTchat |
| 9:56 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
@MsAxthelm nice, I have to work with the resources within the school - tho hoping for a small budget if it goes well! #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @Marisa_C: How do you treat error correction and marking? Do you mark everyone same way? Are you more or less tolerant of error? #ELTchat |
| 9:57 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @janetbianchini: We have 5 mins left! #eltchat Any links to solutions and tips?? <just realised I spent most of it lurking! |
| 9:57 pm |
lolonagi: |
@Marisa_C great q in the last couple of mins :) #eltchat |
| 9:57 pm |
sandymillin: |
RT @waykatewit: #Eltchat @Marisa_C got the weaker re-visit the same text at home - helps |
| 9:57 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@Marisa_C Good Q harder on those that I know can #ELTchat |
| 9:57 pm |
MsAxthelm: |
@cerirhiannon I have found online books a great resource - even manga out there. #eltchat |
| 9:57 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
@Marisa_C mark to student's level - degree to which they're pushing themselves - also measured against past work #eltchat |
| 9:57 pm |
nutrich: |
@educationland @MsAxthelm Such as tech ability in computer work, or artistic ability in project tasks... #eltchat |
| 9:57 pm |
cgoodey: |
RT @cerirhiannon: @Marisa_C mark to student's level - degree to which they're pushing themselves - also measured against past work #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Or how do you differentiate support e,g, in a speaking activity can weaker Ss get a small 'language box" for help? #ELTchat |
| 9:58 pm |
theteacherjames: |
@Marisa_C By reading the text, you should be able to identify the kind & amount of feedback the writer needs. #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm |
Fuertesun: |
@Marisa_C at the end of the day they have to pass the same exam #ELTchat |
| 9:58 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
@MsAxthelm gonna try to go down that road with our online reading club #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm |
lolonagi: |
RT @Marisa_C: Or how do you differentiate support e,g, in a speaking activity can weaker Ss get a small 'language box" for help? #ELTchat |
| 9:58 pm |
janetbianchini: |
Great ideas from onestopenglish http://tinyurl.com/6j3aztf #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm |
waykatewit: |
#Eltchat @Marisa_C no marking - am opposed to it. Peer correction (WeAKER correcting stronger) ^) |
| 9:58 pm |
educationland: |
@Marisa_C Yes I follow the same criteria with all my students while I am correcting their errors .#ELTchat |
| 9:58 pm |
toulasklavou: |
@shaznosel So what's the point?to make the good ones better or the weak ones good? #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm |
sandymillin: |
@Marisa_C I try to focus on the areas I know SS have trouble with e.g. spelling 4 one SS and perfect tenses for another #ELTchat |
| 9:58 pm |
springrose12: |
@janetbianchini @Marisa_C This works, too #eltchathttp://www.teachingexpertise.com/articles/differentiation-some-practical-suggestions-2368 |
| 9:58 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @waykatewit: #Eltchat @Marisa_C no marking - am opposed to it. Peer correction (WeAKER correcting stronger) ^) > nice |
| 9:58 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @Fuertesun: @Marisa_C at the end of the day they have to pass the same exam #ELTchat > that's sometimes the tragedy of it :( |
| 9:58 pm |
cioccas: |
@Marisa_C Error correction & feedback based on Ss ability in that skill, but we work on achieving competencies, not grades. #eltchat |
| 9:59 pm |
A_Grundtvig: |
RT @Marisa_C: ...giving the same text simplified for weaker Ss - untampered for Stronger Ss? #EltchatI really like that idea |
| 9:59 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @cioccas: @Marisa_C Error correction & feedback based on Ss ability in that skill, but we work on achieving competencies, not grades. #eltchat |
| 9:59 pm |
nutrich: |
This is a good graded song listening site, lyrics training - three different levels - http://bit.ly/9kQwqg#eltchat |
| 9:59 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @springrose12: @janetbianchini @Marisa_C This works, too #eltchat http://bit.ly/eHPGrJ > good link |
| 9:59 pm |
waykatewit: |
@toulasklavou @shaznosel #Eltchat both :) |
| 9:59 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @nutrich: This is a good graded song listening site, lyrics training - three different levels -http://bit.ly/9kQwqg #eltchat |
| 9:59 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
@Marisa_C I think its worth weaker sts knowing they're weaker (in a nice way) so correction is the same. #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm |
theteacherjames: |
I don't correct. I help the students correct themselves, and then give feedback. #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm |
janetbianchini: |
@springrose12 Thanks for sharing - will look at it after #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm |
adricarv: |
Jigsaw reading activities in mixed ability classes: http://bit.ly/6RKlDp #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@bcnpaul1 I agree - "confronting the issue" is a good idea - in a nice way as you say #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm |
Marisa_C: |
RT @adricarv: Jigsaw reading activities in mixed ability classes: http://bit.ly/6RKlDp #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm |
annabooklover: |
@Marisa_C #ELTchat sorry I missed most interesting topic! will make some comments on the run |
| 10:01 pm |
janetbianchini: |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @adricarv: Jigsaw reading activities in mixed ability classes: http://bit.ly/6RKlDp#eltchat |
| 10:01 pm |
lauraesol: |
@Shaunwilden Weaker students sometimes need that bit extra praise to build confidence #eltchat |
| 10:01 pm |
annabooklover: |
#ELTchat Very tolerant of errors that don't hinder meaning and communication |
| 10:01 pm |
nutrich: |
We do have to consider that ss may have very diff. levels across the different skills - e.g. good at speaking, terrible at writing #eltchat |
| 10:01 pm |
cioccas: |
RT @theteacherjames: ... help the students correct themselves & then give feedback #eltchat <develop Ss self-correcting ability from day 1 |
| 10:01 pm |
Marisa_C: |
Can't believe it's 12 already and we were just getting warmed up! #ELTchat |
| 10:01 pm |
theteacherjames: |
RT @annabooklover: #ELTchat Very tolerant of errors that dont hinder meaning and communication #eltchat |
| 10:01 pm |
lolonagi: |
RT @Marisa_C: Can't believe it's 12 already and we were just getting warmed up! #ELTchat yes me 2 :) |
| 10:01 pm |
A_Grundtvig: |
#Eltchat I enjoyed this too, I'll be looking out for future chat sessions |
| 10:02 pm |
cerirhiannon: |
RT @Marisa_C: Can't believe it's 12 already and we were just getting warmed up! #ELTchat > I blame the fail whale ;) |
| 10:02 pm |
SueannaN: |
Thanks for another interesting #ELTchat. Great Moderators as usual - shame about the tweet issues |
| 10:02 pm |
Fuertesun: |
RT @SueannaN: Thanks for another interesting #ELTchat. Great Moderators as usual - shame about the tweet issues |
| 10:02 pm |
lolonagi: |
we have just started to get the juice out :) #eltchat |
| 10:02 pm |
bcnpaul1: |
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: Can't believe it's 12 already and we were just getting warmed up! #ELTchat > I blame the fail whale ;) |
| 10:02 pm |
cioccas: |
RT @nutrich: ... ss may have very diff. levels across the different skills - e.g. good at speaking, terrible at writing #eltchat < always! |
| 10:02 pm |
A_Grundtvig: |
Night all #Eltchat |
| 10:02 pm |
Shaunwilden: |
RT @lauraesol: Weaker sts s/times need that bit extra praise to build confidence #eltchat true &stronger can do with the extra challenge |
| 10:02 pm |
yohimar: |
@Marisa_C it depends on my sts level. Sometimes i am more tolerant with beginners! #EltChat |
| 10:02 pm |
Marisa_C: |
@cerirhiannon I blame the fail whale too - was a bit incoherent at the top of the chat #ELTchat |
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