| username |
utc date |
status |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 11:39 |
Learning Orientated Assessment (LOA) used to profile & monitor S progress our topic for #ELTchat. |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 11:40 |
Watch the webinar this topic was copied from http://t.co/WRfFgiZ1RX - V sorry Q setter did not mention this #eltchat |
| ELTchat |
3/19/2014 11:41 |
RT @Marisa_C: Learning Orientated Assessment (LOA) used to profile & monitor S progress our topic for #ELTchat. in 20 minutes |
| TwitLiveEvents |
3/19/2014 11:45 |
March 19, 2014 at 08:00AM Twitter Chat - #eltchat #TwitterChat Visit http://t.co/52cTeoz0Xw for more events. |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 11:52 |
Anyone turning up for #ELTchat today you might want to watch this Cambridge webinar http://t.co/WRfFgiZ1RX o bookmark it |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:01 |
For the next hour my tweets dedicated to #ELTchat on Learning Orientated Assessment (LOA henceforth) |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:02 |
#eltchat nice to be here today. Is there anybody out there? |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:02 |
RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets dedicated to #ELTchat on Learning Orientated Assessment (LOA henceforth) |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:03 |
@SueAnnan yes, I'm here and ready to tweet #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:04 |
For the next hour my tweets dedicated to #ELTchat on Learning Orientated Assessment (LOA henceforth)” |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:04 |
#ELTchat great Anthony. Nice to see you |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:06 |
Welcome - Looks like @SueAnnan and me moderating today - I'll let Sue kick off and ask the questions #ELTchat |
| alanmtait |
3/19/2014 12:06 |
@SueAnnan Hi. Not usually able to join #eltchat but here today. |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:06 |
@marisa_c @sueannan OK looking forward to getting started :) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:07 |
Oops #ELTchat what do you understand by LOA ? |
| BobK99 |
3/19/2014 12:07 |
Here for #eltchat but wrestling with Tweetdeck... |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:07 |
sitting at Kona Cafe in #Torun with lunch and #coffee ready to take part in my first full #eltchat session #elt |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:07 |
@alanmtait @Ashowski @SueAnnan looks like a lot of ppl voted for the topic but couldn't make it to #ELTchat itself |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:08 |
Hi #ELTchat. |
| eilymurphy |
3/19/2014 12:08 |
Hello everybody #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:08 |
@BobK99 hey Bob good to see you - desktop or browser tweetdeck? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:08 |
Hey David -@teflgeek welcome Eily @eilymurphy #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:09 |
@sueannan not testing them on what they should know but what they do know e.g. tests where Ss complete productive tasks #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:09 |
@Ashowski how do you determine the testing focus? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:10 |
@Ashowski #eltchat did you watch the video Marisa posted? |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:10 |
@SueAnnan I didn't... only just spotted the facebook post before joining in here #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
3/19/2014 12:11 |
HI #eltchat. will be lurking as I am not sure how I would implement this type of assessment. |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:11 |
@teflgeek task setup has specific requirements e.g. sports vocab and past tense with YL to write sports profile using above #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:11 |
@sueannan not yet, just seen the post now - have booked marked to watch later #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:11 |
@teflgeek #ELTchat it actually answers all the questions:-) |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
3/19/2014 12:12 |
@SueAnnan @Ashowski Sorry, no time with getting ready for Harrogate and the usual work. #ELTchat |
| DJFTLL |
3/19/2014 12:12 |
Language learning: what motivates us? | @scoopit via @MainwoodDavid http://t.co/C8qL97XkIm #langchat #ellchat #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:13 |
talk to long to watch just bef4 #ELTchat - so this chat is not a test of that webinar actually :-) |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:14 |
@Ashowski but if you pre-determine testing focus how is it learning based? Surely it becomes the teaching focus no? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:14 |
Are we more used to using formative or summative assessment? #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:14 |
@SueAnnan can assessment be both formative and summative? #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:14 |
@teflgeek good point. i thought LOA meant putting the learners abilities at the core of testing #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:14 |
@teflgeek @Ashowski usual question - teach to the test ? #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:15 |
@sueannan which one is continuous assessment? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:15 |
LOA is more interesting for the teacher as it can inform future ideas for tasks in class.#ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:15 |
@Marisa_C @Ashowski usual problem with assessment: presecriptive or descriptive. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:15 |
@Ashowski @teflgeek u are right - Ss central so syllabus perhaps less so #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:15 |
RT @teflgeek: @Marisa_C @Ashowski usual problem with assessment: presecriptive or descriptive. #eltchat > exactly |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:15 |
@marisa_c @teflgeek my school does this - would like to see teaching learners and then testing them on what they can do #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:16 |
@marisa_c @teflgeek i.e. measure the success of the learning, not their failings #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:16 |
I think webinar regurgitates good old Summative vs Formative assessment and how 2nd may drive the teaching #ELTchat |
| BobK99 |
3/19/2014 12:16 |
Haven't seen the video yet but will. LOA sounds good (rather than AOT, which is what Gove seems to want!) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:17 |
@teflgeek two ends of a continuum I think. Watch in class, test at end of course #eltchat |
| eilymurphy |
3/19/2014 12:17 |
@Ashowski @marisa_c @teflgeek asking Ss to do sth from the 'can do' list #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:17 |
@sueannan id say summative then #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:18 |
Task from can do list, observe ability to do task, informs next task #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:19 |
@SueAnnan but some testing is involved no? #eltchat - otherwise why call it assessment and not day-to-day learning checks |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:19 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan learner self assessment with teacher oversight maybe? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:20 |
This type of assessment would fall under 'progress testing' IMOH #ELTchat and would inform future lessons |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:20 |
@eilymurphy @Ashowski @marisa_c has anyone looked at English Profile much yet? #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:21 |
English Profile: http://t.co/hgRbLwCDS2 #eltchat |
| eilymurphy |
3/19/2014 12:21 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan for me it means ability to perform task , like take a phone message, not just the subskills needed to do this ? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:21 |
so 'summative' at end of course, nothing much else to be done, 'formative' while course going and can inform teaching #ELTchat |
| mary28sou |
3/19/2014 12:22 |
#ELTchat how do you mean inform, exactly? |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:22 |
@teflgeek @eilymurphy @marisa_c what's that? a book? website? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:22 |
@SueAnnan true - #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:22 |
@Ashowski it's a CEFR based system of describing the vocabulary and grammar learners at specific CEFR levels should know #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:23 |
@Ashowski I think.... Not actually read into it much myself yet.... #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:23 |
@teflgeekjust quickly checked it out - it looks great! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:23 |
@mary28sou "inform' content, activities, aims of subsequent lessons #eltchat - so not syllabus driven but learner needs driven |
| teachermrw |
3/19/2014 12:24 |
RT @DJFTLL: Language learning: what motivates us? | @scoopit via @MainwoodDavid http://t.co/C8qL97XkIm #langchat #ellchat #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:24 |
@marisa_c i really enjoy formative testing, more than summative. feel it gives a better picture plus not every1 good at tests #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
3/19/2014 12:24 |
@SueAnnan I just see what works and what doesn't & change for future. Have 100 sts & see them once a week. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:24 |
“@Marisa_C:inform' content, activities, aims of subsequent lessons #eltchat - so not syllabus driven but learner needs driven” exactly |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:25 |
@Ashowski true - and takes S anxiety off being assessed #ELTchat |
| eilymurphy |
3/19/2014 12:25 |
@Ashowski @marisa_c true - u can adapt it to real lives of Ss #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
3/19/2014 12:25 |
@Marisa_C @mary28sou We have to prepare all materials in advance - makes it hard to change midstream. #eltchat |
| NewbieCELTA |
3/19/2014 12:26 |
RT @Ashowski: @marisa_c i really enjoy formative testing, more than summative. feel it gives a better picture plus not every1 good at tests… |
| eilymurphy |
3/19/2014 12:26 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C @mary28sou can LOA work as informal 'off-the-cuff' assessment? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:26 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @mary28sou yes but syllabuses shdn't be nailed to the floor !!! :-) surely LOA allows for some stocktaking #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:27 |
@sueannan @marisa_c exactly, learners should be at centre of teaching not syllabi - teach what they can't, not what they should #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:27 |
A test benchmarks sts against a set of criteria - I don't see that LOA can do this. It describes, but doesn't test. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:27 |
A chance to evaluate the syllabus itself? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:27 |
Is there any point in slavishly following a syllabus if students unable to do #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:28 |
RT @SueAnnan: Is there any point in slavishly following a syllabus if students unable to do #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:28 |
@teflgeek where does this criteria come from and do we need it if lang is about ability to communicate? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:28 |
RT @Ashowski: @sueannan @marisa_c exactly, learners should be at centre of teaching not syllabi - teach what they can't, not what they shou… |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:28 |
@sueannan precisely! a teacher at my school has covered lots of the syllabus but admits her learners can't do everything on it #eltchat |
| SwanDOS |
3/19/2014 12:29 |
RT @JoshSRound: Latest on the blog: It's good to talk, isn't it? http://t.co/GZWQiLgFbt #eltchat #auselt #iatefl #lamsig #cpchat #eukmgmt14 |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:29 |
@SueAnnan the syllabus describes the learning goals. How you get there and how long it takes is another question.... #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
3/19/2014 12:29 |
RT @Ashowski: @sueannan @marisa_c ... teach what they can't, not what they should #eltchat >Sounds neat. Must think before full endorsement! |
| IHLondon |
3/19/2014 12:30 |
Very interesting points being made on Learning-oriented Assessment (LOA) in today's #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:30 |
@Ashowski the criteria comes from the syllabus. What you want to know is whether sts have achieved the learning goals. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:30 |
@Ashowski we're doing a lot of demand high stuff at mo. Much more guided by pace of sts learning. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:30 |
@eilymurphy I think a test to be a test has to look like a test (Face Validity) if not it's informal day-2-day assessment #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:31 |
@Ashowski and yes - you do need it. How else do you comunicate if you haven't acquired th tools to do so with? #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:31 |
@teflgeek but as someone who has been a language learner you can't acquire a new grammar in a unit #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:32 |
RT @Marisa_C: @eilymurphy I think a test to be a test has to look like a test (Face Validity) if not it's informal day-2-day assessment #EL… |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:32 |
@teflgeek syllabi often demand T cover lots of grammar/vocab in single course - it takes time and repetition for S to master this #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:32 |
@Ashowski I'm not expecting them to. the syllabus should be graded to meet the level and needs of the learners #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:32 |
@Ashowski @teflgeek Good point but this is a critique on the validity of test items in general, not formative assessment esp #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:32 |
@Ashowski then your problem is the syllabus - not the test or assessment #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
3/19/2014 12:33 |
I make running learner needs driven tests in Google Drive Forms. add items after each lesson based on Ss performance, send endmonth #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:33 |
@teflgeek but the teacher needs to be aware of how the students are coping with the tasks.#ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:34 |
@teflgeek I'd agree with that, problem lies more with syllabi than the tests #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:34 |
@SueAnnan they still can be no? That's what teaching is - delivery of syllabus items and helping learners acheive syllabus goals? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:34 |
@mary28sou those are summative, then. #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:35 |
So, discarding syllabi, what makes a test good? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:35 |
RT @SueAnnan: @mary28sou those are summative, then. #ELTchat > depends what she does with the results - give grades or amend syllabus? |
| Pearson_ELT |
3/19/2014 12:35 |
@teflgeek How you get there & how long it takes is...#eltchat This is spot on, and so important for learner motivation. #testingprogress |
| BobK99 |
3/19/2014 12:35 |
RT @mary28sou: I make running learner needs driven tests ... add items after each lesson based on Ss perf...#ELTchat >Grt idea esp 4 autonom |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:36 |
@Pearson_ELT @teflgeek true - LOA looks more in harmony with process focused teaching #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:36 |
@Ashowski a topic for a different #ELTchat |
| eilymurphy |
3/19/2014 12:36 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan @mary28sou a test that tells u if Ss are at recognition stage, or if they can reproduce and use it #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:37 |
@Marisa_C @Pearson_ELT I need to watch that video... ;) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:38 |
@Ashowski Looking for criteria for evaluating tests and test items ? Lots of published literature on this #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:38 |
How many of you actually use LOA as standard? #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:38 |
@teflgeek @marisa_c @pearson_elt me too #eltchat |
| eilymurphy |
3/19/2014 12:38 |
have to go but will watch video :) #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:38 |
@marisa_c thank you Marisa - will check out :D #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:39 |
@Ashowski will try to find a couple of useful inks #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:39 |
@sueannan I use test results to inform next lessons but not for self-study programmes #eltchat |
| manarricky |
3/19/2014 12:40 |
So how does LOA work? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:40 |
Twitter on tablet, very slow today #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:40 |
@Marisa_C @Ashowski I recommend H Douglas Brown: Language Assessment: Principles and Classroom Practice #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:40 |
@Ashowski Here is a useful general reading by EALTA http://t.co/oBNOa2HZ5v #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:41 |
@teflgeek @Ashowski yes - thanks - a good title :-) #ELTchat |
| BobK99 |
3/19/2014 12:41 |
RT @manarricky: So how does LOA work? #eltchat >Dunno yet, but I suspect @Marisa_C's link will answer :-) |
| Pearson_ELT |
3/19/2014 12:41 |
@BobK99 @Ashowski @SueAnnan @Marisa_C teach what they can't,not what they should #eltchat How do Ts know what they 'can't'? #testingprogress |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:42 |
@manarricky good question! I feel a bit unqualified to answer #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:42 |
@marisa_c thank you! #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:42 |
@Marisa_C @Ashowski http://t.co/XTinuNo70R #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:42 |
@teflgeek @marisa_c thank you! #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
3/19/2014 12:42 |
@Marisa_C @mary28sou I adapt as I go along but don't use any formal method to do this. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:43 |
@Pearson_ELT by being aware of what takes place in class #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:44 |
@Pearson_ELT A combination of T's day-2-day infml assessments backed up by fml testing procedures - keeping a S record/portfolio #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:44 |
@pearson_elt @sueannan what they're good at will leave behind and revise later in course, what not then immediate revision #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
3/19/2014 12:44 |
@teflgeek @SueAnnan Would agree with that-help them reach syllabus goals through assessment of hw for example. #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:44 |
@pearson_elt @sueannan i often use info poster lessons for them to revise and refresh knowledge on a topic #eltchat |
| SwanDOS |
3/19/2014 12:44 |
RT @Marisa_C: @MarjorieRosenbe @mary28sou yes but syllabuses shdn't be nailed to the floor !!! :-) surely LOA allows for some stocktaking #… |
| mary28sou |
3/19/2014 12:45 |
No grades, amend syllabus, tests contain troublesome stuff from lessons, then tests show me and Ss what they need to practice #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:45 |
@MarjorieRosenbe @mary28sou In some/many contexts tests expected; LOA suggests making a different use of them not for grading only #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:45 |
As far as I can tell from cursory glance, LOA seems to be little more than ensuring positive washback for standardised tests #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
3/19/2014 12:45 |
@mary28sou how mant sts do you have? #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:45 |
@mary28sou no grades is a good idea! they don't see their own progression, though? #eltchat I'd prefer without grades however |
| mary28sou |
3/19/2014 12:45 |
Wish I had seen the webinar, too busy right now, sorry #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:46 |
RT @mary28sou: Wish I had seen the webinar, too busy right now, sorry #ELTchat > we all wish we had - found out 2 late to let u know |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:47 |
@teflgeek yeah, it seems to be that - a step up from negative wash back #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:47 |
RT @Ashowski: @teflgeek yeah, it seems to be that - a step up from negative wash back #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
3/19/2014 12:47 |
@SueAnnan Working ok on phone but about to arrive at my lesson. #eltchat (on the tram) |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:47 |
scratch that - maybe better to think of it as data driven teaching #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
3/19/2014 12:47 |
Gotta leave #eltchat - sorry to miss it - will catch up tho'. |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:47 |
@marisa_c @mary28sou it can be our homework #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:47 |
Are the people responsible for the topic here? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:47 |
@teflgeek i like that thought - i called it student driven earlier - we re into driving it seems :-) #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:48 |
@SueAnnan I think so #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:49 |
RT @Ashowski: @marisa_c @mary28sou it can be our homework #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:49 |
RT @teflgeek: scratch that - maybe better to think of it as data driven teaching #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:49 |
@teflgeek @Marisa_C either way it's using learner generated data to drive our teaching - always good! #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:49 |
@larryferlazzo has a nice piece on using assessment to be a data-informed teacher https://t.co/FgaZlYpSFj #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:49 |
“@Ashowski: @teflgeek @Marisa_C either way it's using learner generated data to drive our teaching - always good! #eltchat” absolutely:-) |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:50 |
RT @teflgeek: @larryferlazzo has a nice piece on using assessment to be a data-informed teacher https://t.co/FgaZlYpSFj #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:50 |
@pearson_elt @bobk99 @sueannan @marisa_c like what Maris, formal assessment shows what they can't so work on that throughout year #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
3/19/2014 12:51 |
4 in company grps, many 121 tutees, my tests are composites drawn from matl of all my Ss. Two monthly tests, one UI n one pre-int. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:52 |
@mary28sou For in-company work LOA seems to be THE way to go - for schools with a fixed syllabus, more problems of incorporating #ELTchat |
| AnthonyGaughan |
3/19/2014 12:52 |
RT @bealer81: New blog promoting experimental practice in ELT classroom. Come & get involved http://t.co/nEZfpbGBJk Teaching unplugged week… |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:53 |
Also requires Ts who are good at test design - hence objectives specifications - this an area not well covered by most TT courses #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:53 |
@Marisa_C in fact none that I know of... #eltchat though have been thinking about designing one for a while |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:54 |
@Pearson_ELT in an ideal world yes - with answers & criteria public #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:54 |
How much additional admin work does LOA generate? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:54 |
@teflgeek only at #delta level because of syllabus design need and needs analysis #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:55 |
RT @teflgeek: How much additional admin work does LOA generate? #eltchat > gd Q |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:55 |
@Marisa_C yes. I touch on it, but not at length:-) #ELTchat |
| mary28sou |
3/19/2014 12:55 |
@teflgeek that is a useful roundup of formative assessment, thank you. Marisa is right many T's lack test writing expertise #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 12:55 |
@Marisa_C I don't recall getting much practical advice on my dip #eltchat maybe I just wasn't paying attention! |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:55 |
@teflgeek Which is why I call test design people the best ppl to set objectives and articulate them properly #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:56 |
@mary28sou @teflgeek Thx Mary - and yet expected to produce them in many cases #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:56 |
RT @teflgeek: @larryferlazzo has a nice piece on using assessment to be a data-informed teacher https://t.co/FgaZlYpSFj #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 12:57 |
#ELTchat it's getting to that time again. Would anyone like to volunteer to write the summary? |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:57 |
Have we run out of steam? Is this a good moment to ask one of you to write up this summary? #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:57 |
@Pearson_ELT vocab is at start of every lesson to revise. grammar and other stuff at end of units #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:57 |
@SueAnnan lol :-) #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
3/19/2014 12:58 |
Can technology help us write better (read: LOA) assessment? #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:58 |
@sueannan I wouldn't mind giving it a shot but would need some guidance from someone more experienced #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 12:58 |
RT @mary28sou: Can technology help us write better (read: LOA) assessment? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:58 |
@teflgeek may be we should write one together - also have a great colleague who would be peeeerfect for this #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 12:59 |
RT @mary28sou: Can technology help us write better (read: LOA) assessment? #ELTchat >doubt it - criterion based design is no easy peasy task |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 13:00 |
@teflgeek @marisa_c I think that would be a great course and would be beneficial to teachers out there #eltchat @Shaunwilden |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 13:00 |
@Ashowski yeah. We have a volunteer. Have a look at the summaries on the wiki. There is a good guide which I'll send you #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 13:01 |
@SueAnnan ok excellent. send me that over, i'll take a look at over summaries and then put it together. by when? #ELTchat |
| mary28sou |
3/19/2014 13:01 |
Up to my eyeballs, how soon do you need the summary? Two weeks from now ok?#ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 13:02 |
@Ashowski when you like. No time pressure. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 13:02 |
@mary28sou no worries dear Mary - but thnks for offering - got a volunteer - but a raincheck pls as i like ur summaries ? #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 13:03 |
@sueannan so then I'll do it at the weekend probably :) Sunday's are great days for writing :) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 13:03 |
@Ashowski @sueannan Lovely = thanks ever so much for volunteering - do u have a blog or send by email? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 13:03 |
Thanks everyone for an interesting chat, which I wasn't expecting from the topic TBH lol. #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 13:03 |
@marisa_c hope i'll do a good a job as @mary28sou :-) #eltchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 13:04 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan I very proudly have a blog! :D http://t.co/fqv3eL2PLt #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 13:04 |
@Ashowski we'll help :-) (which means ruthless editing) Naaaah I'm joking #ELTchat |
| Ashowski |
3/19/2014 13:04 |
Right, I must log off and go teach - thanks for great chat one and all! see you next week #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 13:04 |
@Ashowski summaries are actually on the #eltchat blog |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 13:06 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan I already have a hotel booked!!! I forget which one. Will there be an #eltchat event? |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 13:07 |
Thank you all for joining #eltchat today - some interesting ideas got bashed about - what do you think? See you all next week |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 13:07 |
@teflgeek @Marisa_C not as such. But it would be great to meet up #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 13:08 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan I meant an #eltchat physical meet up in Harrogate.... |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 13:08 |
Bye #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 13:08 |
@teflgeek @SueAnnan oh for sure - we should set up an event - forgot to do yes #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
3/19/2014 13:09 |
@teflgeek @Marisa_C we need to organise something then. Watch this space :-) #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 13:09 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Hurrah! #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
3/19/2014 13:09 |
see you all next time. thanks all for a great #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
3/19/2014 13:09 |
RT @teflgeek: @SueAnnan @Marisa_C Hurrah! #eltchat > :-D and double that! |
| NewbieCELTA |
3/19/2014 13:13 |
@teflgeek #ELTchat looking forward to transcript/summary...this week I failed to convert the 12 oclock GMT to EST time so missed it. doh! ;) |
| louisealix68 |
3/19/2014 13:14 |
I see I missed #eltchat today. Am nonetheless doing some CPD at an Early English conference #vvto |
| 12mandown |
3/19/2014 13:28 |
RT @teflgeek: @larryferlazzo has a nice piece on using assessment to be a data-informed teacher https://t.co/FgaZlYpSFj #eltchat |
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