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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:00
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So is it 21.00? Is this #eltchat? Are we here to talk CCQs?
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:00
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@Shaunwilden @SueAnnan @HadaLitim And myself co-moderating - if new to the chat remember to include #ELTchat in EVERY tweet
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:00
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#ELTchat roll call pls? Who dere?
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MarjorieRosenbe
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3/12/2014 21:01
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@SueAnnan hi Sue and everyone. Am here but will be lurking. #eltchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:01
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Good evening #eltchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 21:01
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Evening all. Q1: Is it possible to ask too many? #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:01
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21.00 GMT indeed! Good evening everyone #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:01
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good evening Hana and Marjorie #ELTchat
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MicaelaCarey
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3/12/2014 21:02
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Hi everyone! #eltchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:02
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@HanaTicha Good evening Hana #ELTchat
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mscro1
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3/12/2014 21:02
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RT @Marisa_C: @SueAnnan Hey Sue - for the next hour my tweets dedicated to #ELTchat and discussing CCQ's & ICQ's
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KemparisKostas
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3/12/2014 21:02
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Hi...#eltchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:02
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first of all, does everyone know what CCqs are? #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:02
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Good evening Marjorie and Micaela #ELTchat
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KateLloyd05
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3/12/2014 21:03
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@Marisa_C here #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:03
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RT @SueAnnan: first of all, does everyone know what CCqs are? #ELTchat - Good opening question
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naomishema
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3/12/2014 21:03
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Not really... #ELTchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:03
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@SueAnnan Concept Checking Questions #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:04
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@SueAnnan concept checking quesntions #ELTchat
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eilymurphy
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3/12/2014 21:04
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Hi all - Short questions to check Ss understand vocab or grammar? #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:04
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RT @HanaTicha: @SueAnnan Concept Checking Questions #ELTchat > and by concept=meaning - is that all they do? check meaning"? what else?
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:04
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RT @eilymurphy: Hi all - Short questions to check Ss understand vocab or grammar? #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:04
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RT @ChristineMulla: Evening all. Q1: Is it possible to ask too many? #ELTchat
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KateLloyd05
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3/12/2014 21:04
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@Marisa_C @SueAnnan questions we ask to determine whether students have understood our explanation? #ELTchat
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ClassWired
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3/12/2014 21:04
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@ChristineMulla Yes at some point you have to accept it's time to just explain the word #eltchat
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KemparisKostas
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3/12/2014 21:05
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Concept checking is finding out if a learner has understood a new item. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:05
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@ClassWired do u do this before or after u ask ur CCQ's #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:05
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @eilymurphy: Hi all - Short questions to check Ss understand vocab or grammar? #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:05
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@Marisa_C @ChristineMulla Well it depends on the quality of the question #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:05
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @ChristineMulla: Evening all. Q1: Is it possible to ask too many? #ELTchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:05
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One thing I remember from my mehodology classes: Never ask: Do you understand? :-) #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:06
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C @ChristineMulla Well it depends on the quality of the question #ELTchat > but I guess too many like a mchine gun
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KateLloyd05
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3/12/2014 21:06
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@ClassWired @ChristineMulla but how do we explain the word if we don't speak the language? #ELTchat
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naomishema
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3/12/2014 21:06
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RT @HanaTicha: One thing I remember from my mehodology classes: Never ask: Do you understand? :-) #ELTchat > I agree!
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:06
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@HanaTicha many students would nod, even if they didn't :-) #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:06
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RT @HanaTicha: One thing I remember from my mehodology classes: Never ask: Do you understand? :-) #ELTchat
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naomishema
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3/12/2014 21:06
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RT @SueAnnan: @HanaTicha many students would nod, even if they didn't :-) #ELTchat
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ClassWired
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3/12/2014 21:06
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@Marisa_C Good question. I'd usually put CCQs first. How about you? #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:06
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RT @HanaTicha: One thing I remember from my mehodology classes: Never ask: Do you understand? :-) #ELTchat > yes ! or are we Ok now - clear?
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MarjorieRosenbe
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3/12/2014 21:07
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@HanaTicha @SueAnnan can you give us an example? #eltchat
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UrsulaRoussou
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3/12/2014 21:07
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Hi everyone #ELTchat
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eilymurphy
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3/12/2014 21:07
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@Marisa_C @ClassWired first present/explain new word from context- then flip back to Ss with a question making it more personal #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:07
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so at what point would you ask them? #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:07
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@Marisa_C @HanaTicha But how many times do we catch ourselves saying it :-) #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:07
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@ClassWired if Ss don't know the meaning what purpose - or hoping they will guess VIA the CCQ's? #eltchat - noa a bad idea actually
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:08
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In monolingual classes the quickest CCQ is: Translate the word into L1 please. #ELTchat
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naomishema
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3/12/2014 21:08
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RT @HanaTicha: In monolingual classes the quickest CCQ is: Translate the word into L1 please. #ELTchat
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KateLloyd05
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3/12/2014 21:08
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@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @HanaTicha ha ah it just slips out #ELTchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 21:08
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@naomishema To check a Ss understands sth, you ask a question connected to it. umbrella - When should I use an umbrella? #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:08
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@Shaunwilden @HanaTicha Moi? Jamais!!!!! #ELTCHAT Never! Pote!!
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eilymurphy
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3/12/2014 21:08
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@HanaTicha yes - L1 trans happens all the time #ELTchat
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KateLloyd05
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3/12/2014 21:08
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@HanaTicha but what about when it doesn't directly translate? #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:09
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@HanaTicha Assuming the word will translate there are some words that translate the same or don’t quite carry the same concept #ELTchat
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MarjorieRosenbe
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3/12/2014 21:09
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@HanaTicha Why not? I wouldn't end there but might start with that question. #eltchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:09
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@MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha a question to check if the got'receipt'. Is it given before or after you pay? #ELTchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:09
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@KateLloyd05 Define, explain, point, show, many ways #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:09
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@SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha that depends on the taxi driver and country ;-) #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:09
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@HanaTicha true - L1 IS one of ways of checking - but u cd ask THIS or THAT word best translation too #ELTchat
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ClassWired
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3/12/2014 21:09
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@Marisa_C Yes I'm checking if they can guess the word via CCQs #eltchat
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MicaelaCarey
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3/12/2014 21:10
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RT @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @HanaTicha But how many times do we catch ourselves saying it :-) #eltchat completely agree!
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MarjorieRosenbe
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3/12/2014 21:10
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@SueAnnan @HanaTicha So clarification of vocab for example? #eltchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:10
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I often ask for synonyms and antonyms too #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:10
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@ClassWired Then they are not CCQ's - the function changes slight to that of ELICITING - methinks #ELTchat
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KemparisKostas
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3/12/2014 21:10
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This is an excellent article written by my Marisa on CCQs #eltchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:11
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@MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha Yes, but not only vocab. What else can they be used for? #ELTchat
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naomishema
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3/12/2014 21:11
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U really check understanding when Ss working on their own, in writing or talking. #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:11
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RT @SueAnnan: @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha Yes, but not only vocab. What else can they be used for? #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:11
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RT @KemparisKostas: http://t.co/dXbTuhNOsE #eltchat thx for RT to my CCQ's blog post
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 21:11
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@KateLloyd05 @ClassWired Depends on the word. You can use realia/pictures/draw sth #ELTchat
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ClassWired
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3/12/2014 21:11
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@eilymurphy @Marisa_C I find the CCQs often negate the need for a full explanation. #eltchat
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naomishema
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3/12/2014 21:11
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Used for reading comprehension! #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:12
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@SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha For grammar #ELTchat
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eilymurphy
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3/12/2014 21:12
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@SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha Has gone to lunch vs has been to lunch - Where is she now? is a classic #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:12
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@naomishema yes practice then goes onto show the depth of understanding, CCQs for me are the step before that #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:12
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@naomishema these are called comprehension Qs - you see what a lot of jargon we generate? :-D #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:12
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@ClassWired @eilymurphy @Marisa_C but their job is to check that students understand the concept- not to teach IMHO #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:13
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RT @eilymurphy: @SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha Has gone to lunch vs has been to lunch - Where is she now? is a classic #ELTchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 21:13
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@SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha I use them for homework instructions. #ELTchat
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KemparisKostas
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3/12/2014 21:13
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We can also use CCQs to check understanding of grammar points or functional language, right? #eltchat
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naomishema
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3/12/2014 21:13
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Then I'm utterly confused, sorry. Aren't I checking comp at all stages? #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:13
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CCQ'S originate from semantics (componential analysis) event Transfromational Generative Grammar (deep vs surface meaning) #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:14
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@ChristineMulla @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha I think those are ICQs or instruction checking questions. #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:14
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But then we'll use different types of CCQs - open or closed or even Polar closed #ELTchat
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GetIntoEnglish
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3/12/2014 21:14
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RT @teacherphili: How to get copyright free images - a new topical post following decision by @GettyImages - http://t.co/BBlXEloCQS #edtech…
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KateLloyd05
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3/12/2014 21:14
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@eilymurphy @SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha Yes or She's been to China - where is she? She's gone to China where is she? #ELTCHAT
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:15
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RT @Marisa_C: CCQ'S originate from semantics (componential analysis) event Transfromational Generative Grammar (deep vs surface meaning) #E…
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:15
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@naomishema Yes we are for most part but CCQs tend to come after the presentation stage to check sts are on the same wavelength #ELTchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:15
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@KateLloyd05 @eilymurphy @SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe I usually replace China with the bathroom and we demonstrate :-) #eltchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:15
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@SueAnnan @ChristineMulla @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha Yes ICQs are often confused with CCQs #ELTchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 21:16
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@SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha Oh yes, indeed they are. #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:16
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So if checking grammar - should you use the structure you are checking in your CCQ's? #ELTchat
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KateLloyd05
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3/12/2014 21:16
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@HadaLitim polar closed? #ELTchat
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mary28sou
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3/12/2014 21:16
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Hello, sorry I'm late for the chat. Just finished lesson prep for tomorrow. #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:16
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RT @HanaTicha: @KateLloyd05 @eilymurphy @SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe I usually replace China with the bathroom and we demonstrate :-) #eltch…
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:16
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@HanaTicha @KateLloyd05 @eilymurphy @SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe I do that too #ELTchat
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KemparisKostas
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3/12/2014 21:16
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Definitely NOT. We don not use the target language when designing CCQs #eltchat
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KateLloyd05
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3/12/2014 21:17
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@HanaTicha @eilymurphy @SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe good one! I use 'to sleep' too #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:17
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@Marisa_C I'd say no- if you want to check it is better to make your questions simple- and requiring simple answers #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:17
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So far you have said CCQ's should be simple - elicit short answers - can check meaning, form, pron - use TL in CCQ's? #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:17
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@Marisa_C Not that I remember #ELTchat
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MicaelaCarey
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3/12/2014 21:17
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RT @Marisa_C So if checking grammar - should you use the structure you are checking in your CCQ's? #ELTchat I'd say no- confusing for ss?
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:17
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@Marisa_C I'd definitely rephrase the structure I'm checking #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:18
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Cool - if you DO use the TL the Ss' answer doesn't tell u much abt their understanding #ELTchat
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KemparisKostas
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3/12/2014 21:18
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I'm rephrasing the structure/target language too #eltchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:18
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@KateLloyd05 they're likely to lead to one or just two poss one-word answers (Scrivener 2012:146) #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:19
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Sharing a simple google search on CCQs again lots of good links http://t.co/67FFV70Rd3 #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:20
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Most CCQs produce short answers or even yes/no ones #ELTchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:20
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RT @mary28sou: I often ask Ss for another example of the structure I've presented - does that count as a CCQ? #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:20
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RT @Marisa_C: Sharing a simple google search on CCQs again lots of good links http://t.co/67FFV70Rd3 #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:20
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RT @SueAnnan: Most CCQs produce short answers or even yes/no ones #ELTchat > for me the best kind
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KemparisKostas
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3/12/2014 21:20
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Is there any limit on how many CCQs we can design for a lesson of 60 min Marisa? #eltchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:21
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@mary28sou I don't think so. Ss just parrot what you've said in a slightly different way #eltchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:21
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@HanaTicha @mary28sou not exactly. How do you know they are not just substituting ? #ELTchat
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Staplefordk
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3/12/2014 21:21
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RT @Marisa_C: "How do you design good CCQ's & ICQ"s (Concept & Instruction Checking Questions)" - our topic for #ELTchat in abt one hour - …
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:21
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@KemparisKostas i think ‘limit’ is the wrong way to look at it #ELTchat
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UCOL5Diploma
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3/12/2014 21:22
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RT @Marisa_C: "How do you design good CCQ's & ICQ"s (Concept & Instruction Checking Questions)" - our topic for #ELTchat in abt one hour - …
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EdLaur
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3/12/2014 21:22
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Homework for me for this week. RT @Marisa_C: Sharing a simple google search on CCQs again lots of good links http://t.co/pC2CF1KrHU #ELTchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 21:22
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What if after a few CCQs some Ss don't understand but most have got it. #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:22
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@ChristineMulla RT @KemparisKostas:A limit on how many CCQs we can design for a lesson of 60 min #eltchat > What do u all think?
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:23
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@KemparisKostas It will depend on how much 'teaching' you are doing. If it is very student-centred, not many #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:23
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@ChristineMulla good point - can u get them in prs to explain perhaps? Often see Ts ask the same Ss tho -or ONE st answers T is OK #ELTchat
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naomishema
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3/12/2014 21:23
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RT @ChristineMulla: What if after a few CCQs some Ss don't understand but most have got it. #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:24
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@Marisa_C @ChristineMulla @KemparisKostas tom e the ‘limit’ would be on the number of concepts introduced nit the ccqs #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:24
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@Marisa_C @ChristineMulla @KemparisKostas Not sure I'd be able to put a limit. It depends on how the sts respond I think #ELTchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:24
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@Marisa_C @ChristineMulla @KemparisKostas Your Ss should definitely not feel as if interrogated by the police :-) #ELTchat
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KemparisKostas
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3/12/2014 21:24
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That is what I was thinking SueAnnan. We don't have to overdo it. #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:24
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@HanaTicha @Marisa_C @ChristineMulla @KemparisKostas Can CCQs not be student-generated? #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:24
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C @ChristineMulla @KemparisKostas tom e the ‘limit’ would be on the number of concepts introduced nit the ccqs #EL…
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:25
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I think no depends on complexity of the concept or forms shown - but what I often see is Ts asking same 1 or 2 Ss and moving on #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:25
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RT @HanaTicha: @Marisa_C @ChristineMulla @KemparisKostas Your Ss should definitely not feel as if interrogated by the police :-) #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:25
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C @ChristineMulla @KemparisKostas tom e the ‘limit’ would be on the number of concepts introduced nit the ccqs #EL…
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KemparisKostas
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3/12/2014 21:25
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We have to use different interaction patterns-not just the same Ss all the time #eltchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:25
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Good question. Can they? If we are testing the students understanding? #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:25
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@Shaunwilden good point - can CCQ's be generated by Ss? #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:25
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@Shaunwilden @HanaTicha @Marisa_C @ChristineMulla @KemparisKostas Ho would you do that? #eltchat
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MicaelaCarey
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3/12/2014 21:25
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@SueAnnan @KemparisKostas CCQs should be concise & effective- ss might tune out after too many #eltchat
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naomishema
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3/12/2014 21:26
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Those Ss who don't get it - important that whole lesson not be frontal so that T can "reach" them without driving others crazy. #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:26
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@Marisa_C Totally agree Marisa #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:26
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@MicaelaCarey I think that a couple is usually enough #ELTchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:26
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@Marisa_C I try to focus on the weaker Ss when asking CCQs. If they know, the stronger ones will too #eltchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 21:26
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@Marisa_C @KemparisKostas Um, maybe depends on focus of lesson. If new things come up, new CCQs? #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:27
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I call it "Ideas Behind" - e.g. "I wish u wouldn't smoke" Ss have to say "But you do" & I don't like it" #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:27
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RT @Marisa_C: I call it "Ideas Behind" - e.g. "I wish u wouldn't smoke" Ss have to say "But you do" & I don't like it" #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:27
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So a HO or slide with TL and Ss write "ideas behind" each sentence #ELTchat
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KKindrat
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3/12/2014 21:28
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RT @CELT_Athens: How do you Feel after a Bad Lesson? New #eltchat podcast! #efl #esl http://t.co/P6iOGShXzk
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:28
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Too many could result in rewording in as complex a way as the first time round. Effective CCQs should be few #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:29
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Do time lines count as CCQ's? E.g. can u ask Ss to make a timeline or to choose one? #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:30
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would your CCqs vary if you chose two dif. marker sentences of the same structure? #ELTchat
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mary28sou
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3/12/2014 21:30
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Thank you Marisa for the "ideas Behind" idea. I will try it out for sure. #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:30
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RT @Marisa_C: Do time lines count as CCQ's? E.g. can u ask Ss to make a timeline or to choose one? #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:30
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@SueAnnan Example please? #ELTchat
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ruwaida_meral
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3/12/2014 21:30
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@ELTchat. #ELTchat
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MarjorieRosenbe
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3/12/2014 21:31
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Have to admit I never analyze Qs but ask them to get sts thinking or to clarify something. Some adults also prefer explanations. #eltchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 21:31
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@HanaTicha @Marisa_C @KemparisKostas I sometimes get the ones I'm still worried don't get it to write a sentence or question. #ELTchat
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eilymurphy
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3/12/2014 21:31
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@Marisa_C some Ss definitely prefer visual timelines, but when they show it 2 u , u can still do a quick CCQ #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:31
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@MarjorieRosenbe sure they do - it's easier #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:32
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@SueAnnan not sure i follow #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:32
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RT @eilymurphy: @Marisa_C some Ss definitely prefer visual timelines, but when they show it 2 u , u can still do a quick CCQ #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:32
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RT @Marisa_C: Do time lines count as CCQ's? E.g. can u ask Ss to make a timeline or to choose one? #ELTchat
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naomishema
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3/12/2014 21:32
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RT @eilymurphy: @Marisa_C some Ss definitely prefer visual timelines> Good 2 relate 2 learning styles ! #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:32
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@eilymurphy or show TWO visuals and Ss say which one - that's ur CCQ #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:33
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RT @Marisa_C: Do time lines count as CCQ's? E.g. can u ask Ss to make a timeline or to choose one? #ELTchat - repeating Question
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:33
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@Marisa_C Well they'll help when checking grammar #ELTchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:33
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I sometimes let my Ss summarize the whole text in L1 if difficult (after listening, reading). #ELTchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 21:33
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@MicaelaCarey @SueAnnan @KemparisKostas Agreed! #eltchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:33
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@Marisa_C What about clines? #ELTchat
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eilymurphy
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3/12/2014 21:33
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RT @eilymurphy: @Marisa_C 2 visuals - and they decide - great idea :-D #ELTchat
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mary28sou
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3/12/2014 21:34
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Not sure you can create CCQ's for every structure taught. Could we mention "favorite" CCQ-friendly ones? Maybe examples of CCQ's? #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:34
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@HanaTicha not a CCQ i'm afraid dear Hana - CCQ's check the ideas/meanings implicit in words, structures, functions #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:34
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She wishes she'd brought an umbrella / she wishes she'd had time to eat dinner :-)What CCqs would you use? would they be similar #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:35
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@HadaLitim @Marisa_C Would be a good way of checkin things that can be graded #ELTchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 21:35
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@Shaunwilden @HanaTicha @Marisa_C @KemparisKostas That's a great idea. Get Ss who understand ask a question. #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:35
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RT @HadaLitim: @Marisa_C What about clines? #ELTchat - a great way to check voc of degrees - like from hot to cold etx
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:35
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@Marisa_C No? :-( But at least I make sure everybody got it in the end :-) #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:36
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RT @Shaunwilden: @HadaLitim @Marisa_C Would be a good way of checkin things that can be graded #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:37
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another way of decentering is to get Ss in prs or grps to write one or two check questions (following an example u have modelled) #eltchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:37
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@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden yes, and for adverbs of frequency is a favourite in coursebooks #eltchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:38
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RT @Marisa_C: another way of decentering is to get Ss in prs or grps to write one or two check questions (following an example u have model…
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:38
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I lkie clines :-) #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:38
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@Marisa_C Great idea, will have to try that #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:39
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@HadaLitim @Shaunwilden yeah! A thermometer activity too :-) #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:39
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should you always ask full questions? #ELTchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:39
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@HadaLitim @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Like when you check the diff between 'always and 'sometimes you use dots for the number of days #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:40
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@SueAnnan for same structure same question types bt different content #eltchat (sorry mistyped earlier)
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:40
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@SueAnnan Why not? #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:40
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@HanaTicha @HadaLitim @Shaunwilden yes but a CCQ suggest u ask the Ss to make the dots not you #eltchat :-)
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:41
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@Marisa_C @HadaLitim @Shaunwilden Sure. That's what I meant #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:41
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RT @Shaunwilden: @SueAnnan Why not? #ELTchat > yes why not indeed
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:41
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@HanaTicha @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden That's a new one for me Hana. I usually use percentages #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:41
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@Shaunwilden is it necessary at low levels? #ELTchat
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mary28sou
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3/12/2014 21:41
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Thanks for the ideas and inspirations everyone, must leave already early start tomorrow. #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:41
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@SueAnnan So you’d cut out what? #ELTchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:42
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@HadaLitim @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Clever but what if you teach young learners? :-) #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:42
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OK one last Q abt CCQ's - do u include other info? Like is this formal or not? Couls u say it to ur boss? intonation? etc #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:42
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What are the pitfalls of CCQs? #ELTchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 21:43
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@HanaTicha @Marisa_C @KemparisKostas They should be as closed as possible too, leading to the item being checked. #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:43
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@HadaLitim Can be mrs complicated that the thing you were teaching #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:43
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@HanaTicha get them to draw thermometers or glasses of water #ELTchat
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Innov8rEduc8r
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3/12/2014 21:43
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Ahhhhhh missed the chat....Saw all your tweets coming up and frantically connected...alas it's nearly over #eltchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:43
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@mary28sou Thanks for taking part Mary - goodnight and see you next week at an earlier time :) #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:43
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RT @HadaLitim: What are the pitfalls of CCQs? #ELTchat > good question
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:43
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@Marisa_C Good Q. I don't do it as part of a CCQ but I make sure that I ask the Q at some point. Register is important #ELTchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:43
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@HadaLitim They make the lessons a little inauthentic - sometimes #ELTchat
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KateLloyd05
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3/12/2014 21:44
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@HadaLitim overdone they can seem patronising #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:44
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@Shaunwilden OKay. Can't think of anything at the mo. #ELTchat
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harrisonmike
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3/12/2014 21:44
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@marisa_c concept checking questions are tailored to whatever concept is being dealt with surely? #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:44
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RT @harrisonmike: @marisa_c concept checking questions are tailored to whatever concept is being dealt with surely? #eltchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:45
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I don't normally ask my little son CCQs in L1 - HE asks if he wants to know something #eltchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:45
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@harrisonmike @marisa_c Hi Mike. Marisa was answering me when I asked if the Qs varied with diff marker qs #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:45
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RT @KateLloyd05: @HadaLitim overdone they can seem patronising #ELTchat > yes this also true of inane ICQ's (are u in prs or alone now?) :-D
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harrisonmike
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3/12/2014 21:45
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@sueannan @shaunwilden think CCQs at lower levels have to be much more planned/thought out. potential to confuse sts #eltchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:46
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RT @KateLloyd05: @HadaLitim overdone they can seem patronising #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:46
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RT @HanaTicha: @HadaLitim They make the lessons a little inauthentic - sometimes #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:46
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@HanaTicha But if you don’t understand what he wants don’t you check? #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:46
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RT @SueAnnan: @Marisa_C Good Q. I don't do it as part of a CCQ but I make sure that I ask the Q at some point. Register is important #ELTch…
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:46
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@harrisonmike @sueannan I think they need to be planned out whatever the level - as lvl increases concepts tougher #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:46
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How many of you use ICQs? I don't always remember to do so TBH #ELTchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:46
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@Shaunwilden :-) Let me think about this question for a while #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:47
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@HanaTicha with YLs and concrete vocab or lang CCQ's can be visuals (choose) or mime (which?) or do (same #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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3/12/2014 21:47
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@marisa_c @katelloyd05 @hadalitim depends on how much you can expect sts to be on task/have an idea what theyre sposed to be doing #eltchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:47
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CCQs require two skills - knowing how to formulate them and being able to grade one's language appropriately #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:47
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RT @SueAnnan: How many of you use ICQs? I don't always remember to do so TBH #ELTchat > if i don't I always pay for it - Murphy's law
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:47
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RT @Shaunwilden: @harrisonmike @sueannan I think they need to be planned out whatever the level - as lvl increases concepts tougher #ELTchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 21:48
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@HanaTicha @HadaLitim They can confuse if not structured correctly. #ELTchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:48
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@Marisa_C My previous tweet was related to the potential inauthenticity of CCqs = one of the pitfalls #ELTchat
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harrisonmike
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3/12/2014 21:48
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@shaunwilden @sueannan agree. I think it's better if frames r planned out, as u can never be sure what concepts will need checking #eltchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:48
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RT @harrisonmike: @shaunwilden @sueannan agree. I think it's better if frames r planned out, as u can never be sure what concepts will need…
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:48
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@HadaLitim True - using lang appropriate to the level key in presenting and checking language #ELTchat
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MicaelaCarey
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3/12/2014 21:48
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@SueAnnan I use a lot of ICQs with my YLs #eltchat
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MarjorieRosenbe
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3/12/2014 21:49
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@Marisa_C Also faster and my corporate clients prefer it. #eltchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:49
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@SueAnnan I've learnt to always do, especially with HW. It prevents the classic 'I didn't know you said that teacher' #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:50
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I work mostly with adults at high levels, and am guilty of assuming they understand :-( #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:50
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@HanaTicha CCQ's not authentic tho mums do use a lot of lang that could be construed as CCQ's with children #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:50
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@SueAnnan I think that’s common assumption #ELTchat
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eilymurphy
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3/12/2014 21:50
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@MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C true - they like the quickfire side of CCQs #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:50
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@SueAnnan same here - but as i said - sod's law.... what can go wrong will go wrong #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:50
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@Shaunwilden I do occasionally get bitten though #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:50
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@SueAnnan So are they less needed with higher levels? #ELTchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:51
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@Marisa_C Very true. So it's more about 'how' than 'if' or 'how often' #eltchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:52
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@HadaLitim @SueAnnan No! I often pretend I understand :-) And I'm happy people assume I do #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:52
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@HadaLitim noit really Hada. I think it isnt always safe to make assumptions #ELTchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 21:52
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@HadaLitim @SueAnnan Me too! #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:52
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RT @Marisa_C: @SueAnnan same here - but as i said - sod's law.... what can go wrong will go wrong #ELTchat
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MarjorieRosenbe
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3/12/2014 21:52
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@Marisa_C not sure but is game like 'say my word' these kinds of Qs? #eltchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:53
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@HanaTicha @SueAnnan Haha! #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:53
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RT @HadaLitim: @SueAnnan So are they less needed with higher levels? #ELTchat> NO! Bt at higher levels a collocation grid or LA Qs suit best
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MicaelaCarey
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3/12/2014 21:53
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@HadaLitim @SueAnnan #eltchat Yes, particularly with HW- can be a sticky issue- 'I didn't understand it' can be an excuse.
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Ashowski
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3/12/2014 21:53
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@HadaLitim @SueAnnan I always use CCQ and ICQ even with highest levels - can a native always 100% understand a task? #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:53
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RT @Ashowski: @HadaLitim @SueAnnan I always use CCQ and ICQ even with highest levels - can a native always 100% understand a task? #eltchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:53
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RT @Ashowski: @HadaLitim @SueAnnan I always use CCQ and ICQ even with highest levels - can a native always 100% understand a task? #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:54
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Heading towards volunteering time…..#ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:54
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RT @Ashowski: @HadaLitim @SueAnnan I always use CCQ and ICQ even with highest levels - can a native always 100% understand a task? #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:54
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@Ashowski very true - #eltchat tho @SueAnnan calls me little miss doom ha ha wait till u get bitten again miss annan
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:54
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PLease volunteer to write the summary of tonight's chat #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:54
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RT @SueAnnan: PLease volunteer to write the summary of tonight's chat #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:55
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@Shaunwilden god u frightened me with ur new pic #eltchat is that how dads look?
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:55
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I think higher level Ss and adult learners actually ask themselves if they don't understand - kids and teens don't care #ELTchat
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EdLaur
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3/12/2014 21:55
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RT @MicaelaCarey: @SueAnnan @KemparisKostas CCQs should be concise & effective- ss might tune out after too many #eltchat
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KateLloyd05
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3/12/2014 21:55
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@Ashowski @HadaLitim @SueAnnan there's always someone not listening #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:55
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@KateLloyd05 @Ashowski @HadaLitim That's very true #ELTchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 21:55
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@Marisa_C @HanaTicha I often use CCQs or CCQesque qs with my little bro quite often. #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:55
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RT @SueAnnan: PLease volunteer to write the summary of tonight's chat #ELTchat > yes do - where is @cuppa_coffee he should write it he asked
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 21:56
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@HanaTicha hmm not sure thats true, i think sts try &understand often cos they don’t want to feel embarrassed or embarrass teacher #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:58
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OK 3 minutes before the end shall I ask u some CCQ'\s now to check what you understood from this #ELTchat ? :-D
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 21:58
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@Marisa_C LOL #ELTchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 21:58
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@Shaunwilden Maybe. But teens sometimes feel more embarrassed to ask that not to understand #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:58
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CCQ's can be asked at any point T or F? #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 21:59
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@HanaTicha My sts are all adults #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 21:59
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Use the TL to make sure your Ss answer correctly - T or F? #ELTchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 22:00
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@Marisa_C I think true. #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 22:00
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@ChristineMulla which one :-) #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 22:00
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@Marisa_C F #ELTchat
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MarjorieRosenbe
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3/12/2014 22:01
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Night all. Chat gave me sth to think about (as usual). #eltchat
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SueAnnan
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3/12/2014 22:01
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Have we got a summary writer?Please?#ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 22:01
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Lol am not asking any more - here is the key 1) T 2) F - have we got a summary volunteer please? #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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3/12/2014 22:01
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Right, thanks for joining #eltchat next week’s at 12 GMT
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 22:02
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@MarjorieRosenbe Goodnight Marjorie #ELTchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 22:02
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@Marisa_C To CCQs at any point. Words can come up at any point, so CCQs are possible. #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 22:02
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@ChristineMulla yes :-) #ELTchat
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KateLloyd05
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3/12/2014 22:02
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Goodnight all. #ELTchat
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HanaTicha
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3/12/2014 22:03
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Good night. An interesting topic and a lovely chat, as usual. #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 22:04
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Good night everyone - am in the middle of writing a CCQ blog post sequel to my first one - so loads of food for thought tonight #eltchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 22:05
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@HanaTicha Goodnight Hana #ELTchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 22:05
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Can anyone write a summary? Does it have a deadline/certain format? #ELTchat
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HadaLitim
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3/12/2014 22:06
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Goodnight everyone - chat next week and thanks for all the inspiration and tips #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 22:06
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@ChristineMulla ANyone can write a summary - Yes!!!! Would be happy to help #ELTchat
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eilymurphy
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3/12/2014 22:07
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RT @eilymurphy: @ChristineMulla @Marisa_C G'night all and as always, Tx for the ideas #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 22:07
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@ChristineMulla and if u don't have a blog, then just send as a word document and we'll post on the #ELTchat blog
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 22:09
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@Marisa_C Could try if you liked. Would be over the weekend if that's OK. #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 22:10
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@ChristineMulla that would be lovely - will send you link to transcript and a couple of nice blog post examples for ideas - #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 22:11
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@ChristineMulla or just check this page here for examples http://t.co/mkZQucpr6q our #ELTchat summaries index
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 22:11
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@Marisa_C Would this kind of format be OK http://t.co/xRBoWs17te #ELTchat
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eilymurphy
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3/12/2014 22:12
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@ChristineMulla @Marisa_Cheers Christine for yr hard work!- and BTW TX for Mondays' #eltchinwag - ideas came in handy today :-D #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 22:13
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@ChristineMulla looks fine - just try to group ideas together and use a bit more prose than the 140 :-) #ELTchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 22:18
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@Marisa_C Should I go through all the tweets from here, on the #? #ELTchat
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yya2
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3/12/2014 22:18
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Essay-Grading Software Seen as Time-Saving Tool | @scoopit http://t.co/hyvnOXeDUb #langchat #eltchat #mfltwitterati #edchat
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 22:23
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@Marisa_C Will do. #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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3/12/2014 22:27
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@ChristineMulla will tweet you the transcript soon #ELTchat
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acc_istanbul
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3/12/2014 22:29
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the limit is not in the sky...~ #edchat #engchat #ptchat #learningeveryday #ELTchat http://t.co/ENX0s4ieKR
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ChristineMulla
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3/12/2014 22:40
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@Marisa_C Great, thank you. #ELTchat
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