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How do you Design good ICQs and CCQs

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ELTchat 12th March 2014 @ 9GMT: How do you design good ICQs and CCQs?ELTchat for CCqs.docx

 

 

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Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:00

So is it 21.00? Is this #eltchat? Are we here to talk CCQs?

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:00

@Shaunwilden @SueAnnan @HadaLitim And myself co-moderating - if new to the chat remember to include #ELTchat in EVERY tweet

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:00

#ELTchat roll call pls? Who dere?

MarjorieRosenbe

3/12/2014 21:01

@SueAnnan hi Sue and everyone. Am here but will be lurking. #eltchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:01

Good evening #eltchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 21:01

Evening all. Q1: Is it possible to ask too many? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:01

21.00 GMT indeed! Good evening everyone #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:01

good evening Hana and Marjorie #ELTchat

MicaelaCarey

3/12/2014 21:02

Hi everyone!  #eltchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:02

@HanaTicha Good evening Hana #ELTchat

mscro1

3/12/2014 21:02

RT @Marisa_C: @SueAnnan Hey Sue - for the next hour my tweets dedicated to #ELTchat and discussing CCQ's & ICQ's

KemparisKostas

3/12/2014 21:02

Hi...#eltchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:02

first of all, does everyone know what CCqs are? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:02

Good evening Marjorie and Micaela #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

3/12/2014 21:03

@Marisa_C here #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:03

RT @SueAnnan: first of all, does everyone know what CCqs are? #ELTchat - Good opening question

naomishema

3/12/2014 21:03

Not really... #ELTchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:03

@SueAnnan Concept Checking Questions #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:04

@SueAnnan concept checking quesntions #ELTchat

eilymurphy

3/12/2014 21:04

Hi all - Short questions to check Ss understand vocab or grammar? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:04

RT @HanaTicha: @SueAnnan Concept Checking Questions #ELTchat > and by concept=meaning - is that all they do? check meaning"? what else?

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:04

RT @eilymurphy: Hi all - Short questions to check Ss understand vocab or grammar? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:04

RT @ChristineMulla: Evening all. Q1: Is it possible to ask too many? #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

3/12/2014 21:04

@Marisa_C @SueAnnan questions we ask to determine whether students have understood our explanation? #ELTchat

ClassWired

3/12/2014 21:04

@ChristineMulla Yes at some point you have to accept it's time to just explain the word #eltchat

KemparisKostas

3/12/2014 21:05

Concept checking is finding out if a learner has understood a new item.  #eltchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:05

@ClassWired do u do this before or after u ask ur CCQ's #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:05

RT @Marisa_C: RT @eilymurphy: Hi all - Short questions to check Ss understand vocab or grammar? #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:05

@Marisa_C @ChristineMulla Well it depends on the quality of the question #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:05

RT @Marisa_C: RT @ChristineMulla: Evening all. Q1: Is it possible to ask too many? #ELTchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:05

One thing I remember from my mehodology classes: Never ask: Do you understand? :-) #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:06

RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C @ChristineMulla Well it depends on the quality of the question #ELTchat > but I guess too many like a mchine gun

KateLloyd05

3/12/2014 21:06

@ClassWired @ChristineMulla but how do we explain the word if we don't speak the language? #ELTchat

naomishema

3/12/2014 21:06

RT @HanaTicha: One thing I remember from my mehodology classes: Never ask: Do you understand? :-) #ELTchat > I agree!

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:06

@HanaTicha many students would nod, even if they didn't :-) #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:06

RT @HanaTicha: One thing I remember from my mehodology classes: Never ask: Do you understand? :-) #ELTchat

naomishema

3/12/2014 21:06

RT @SueAnnan: @HanaTicha many students would nod, even if they didn't :-) #ELTchat

ClassWired

3/12/2014 21:06

@Marisa_C Good question. I'd usually put CCQs first. How about you? #eltchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:06

RT @HanaTicha: One thing I remember from my mehodology classes: Never ask: Do you understand? :-) #ELTchat > yes ! or are we Ok now - clear?

MarjorieRosenbe

3/12/2014 21:07

@HanaTicha @SueAnnan can you give us an example? #eltchat

UrsulaRoussou

3/12/2014 21:07

Hi everyone #ELTchat

eilymurphy

3/12/2014 21:07

@Marisa_C @ClassWired first present/explain new word from context- then flip back to Ss with a question making it more personal #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:07

so at what point would you ask them? #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:07

@Marisa_C @HanaTicha But how many times do we catch ourselves saying it :-) #eltchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:07

@ClassWired if Ss don't know the meaning what purpose - or hoping they will guess VIA the CCQ's? #eltchat - noa a bad idea actually

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:08

In monolingual classes the quickest CCQ is: Translate the word into L1 please. #ELTchat

naomishema

3/12/2014 21:08

RT @HanaTicha: In monolingual classes the quickest CCQ is: Translate the word into L1 please. #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

3/12/2014 21:08

@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @HanaTicha ha ah it just slips out #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 21:08

@naomishema To check a Ss understands sth, you ask a question connected to it. umbrella - When should I use an umbrella? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:08

@Shaunwilden @HanaTicha Moi? Jamais!!!!! #ELTCHAT Never! Pote!!

eilymurphy

3/12/2014 21:08

@HanaTicha yes - L1 trans happens all the time #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

3/12/2014 21:08

@HanaTicha but what about when it doesn't directly translate? #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:09

@HanaTicha Assuming the word will translate there are some words that translate the same or don’t quite carry the same concept #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

3/12/2014 21:09

@HanaTicha Why not? I wouldn't end there but might start with that question.  #eltchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:09

@MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha a question to check if the got'receipt'. Is it given before or after you pay? #ELTchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:09

@KateLloyd05 Define, explain, point, show, many ways  #eltchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:09

@SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha that depends on the taxi driver and country ;-) #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:09

@HanaTicha true - L1 IS one of ways of checking - but u cd ask THIS or THAT word best translation too #ELTchat

ClassWired

3/12/2014 21:09

@Marisa_C Yes I'm checking if they can guess the word via CCQs #eltchat

MicaelaCarey

3/12/2014 21:10

RT @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @HanaTicha But how many times do we catch ourselves saying it :-) #eltchat  completely agree!

MarjorieRosenbe

3/12/2014 21:10

@SueAnnan @HanaTicha So clarification of vocab for example? #eltchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:10

I often ask for synonyms and antonyms too #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:10

@ClassWired Then they are not CCQ's - the function changes slight to that of ELICITING - methinks #ELTchat

KemparisKostas

3/12/2014 21:10

This is an excellent article written by my Marisa on CCQs #eltchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:11

@MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha Yes, but not only vocab. What else can they be used for? #ELTchat

naomishema

3/12/2014 21:11

U really check understanding when Ss working on their own, in writing or talking. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:11

RT @SueAnnan: @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha Yes, but not only vocab. What else can they be used for? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:11

RT @KemparisKostas: http://t.co/dXbTuhNOsE #eltchat thx for RT to my CCQ's blog post

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 21:11

@KateLloyd05 @ClassWired Depends on the word. You can use realia/pictures/draw sth #ELTchat

ClassWired

3/12/2014 21:11

@eilymurphy @Marisa_C I find the CCQs often negate the need for a full explanation. #eltchat

naomishema

3/12/2014 21:11

Used for reading comprehension! #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:12

@SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha For grammar #ELTchat

eilymurphy

3/12/2014 21:12

@SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha Has gone to lunch vs has been to lunch - Where is she now? is a classic #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:12

@naomishema yes practice then goes onto show the depth of understanding, CCQs for me are the step before that #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:12

@naomishema these are called comprehension Qs - you see what a lot of jargon we generate? :-D #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:12

@ClassWired @eilymurphy @Marisa_C but their job is to check that students understand the concept- not to teach IMHO #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:13

RT @eilymurphy: @SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha Has gone to lunch vs has been to lunch - Where is she now? is a classic #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 21:13

@SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha I use them for homework instructions. #ELTchat

KemparisKostas

3/12/2014 21:13

We can also use CCQs to check understanding of grammar points or functional language, right? #eltchat

naomishema

3/12/2014 21:13

Then I'm utterly confused, sorry. Aren't I checking comp at all stages? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:13

CCQ'S originate from semantics (componential analysis) event Transfromational Generative Grammar (deep vs surface meaning) #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:14

@ChristineMulla @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha I think those are ICQs or instruction checking questions. #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:14

But then we'll use different types of CCQs - open or closed or even Polar closed #ELTchat

GetIntoEnglish

3/12/2014 21:14

RT @teacherphili: How to get copyright free images - a new topical post following decision by @GettyImages - http://t.co/BBlXEloCQS #edtech…

KateLloyd05

3/12/2014 21:14

@eilymurphy @SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha Yes or She's been to China - where is she? She's gone to China where is she? #ELTCHAT

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:15

RT @Marisa_C: CCQ'S originate from semantics (componential analysis) event Transfromational Generative Grammar (deep vs surface meaning) #E…

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:15

@naomishema Yes we are for most part but CCQs tend to come after the presentation stage to check sts are on the same wavelength #ELTchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:15

@KateLloyd05 @eilymurphy @SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe I usually replace China with the bathroom  and we demonstrate :-) #eltchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:15

@SueAnnan @ChristineMulla @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha Yes ICQs are often confused with CCQs #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 21:16

@SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe @HanaTicha Oh yes, indeed they are. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:16

So if checking grammar - should you use the structure you are checking in your CCQ's? #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

3/12/2014 21:16

@HadaLitim polar closed? #ELTchat

mary28sou

3/12/2014 21:16

Hello, sorry I'm late for the chat. Just finished lesson prep for tomorrow. #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:16

RT @HanaTicha: @KateLloyd05 @eilymurphy @SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe I usually replace China with the bathroom  and we demonstrate :-) #eltch…

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:16

@HanaTicha @KateLloyd05 @eilymurphy @SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe I do that too #ELTchat

KemparisKostas

3/12/2014 21:16

Definitely NOT. We don not use the target language when designing CCQs #eltchat

KateLloyd05

3/12/2014 21:17

@HanaTicha @eilymurphy @SueAnnan @MarjorieRosenbe good one! I use 'to sleep' too #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:17

@Marisa_C I'd say no- if you want to check it is better to make your questions simple- and requiring simple answers #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:17

So far you have said CCQ's should be simple - elicit short answers - can check meaning, form, pron - use TL in CCQ's? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:17

@Marisa_C Not that I remember #ELTchat

MicaelaCarey

3/12/2014 21:17

RT @Marisa_C So if checking grammar - should you use the structure you are checking in your CCQ's? #ELTchat I'd say no- confusing for ss?

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:17

@Marisa_C I'd definitely rephrase the structure I'm checking #eltchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:18

Cool - if you DO use the TL the Ss' answer doesn't tell u much abt their understanding #ELTchat

KemparisKostas

3/12/2014 21:18

I'm rephrasing the structure/target language too #eltchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:18

@KateLloyd05 they're likely to lead to one or just two poss one-word answers (Scrivener 2012:146) #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:19

Sharing a simple google search on CCQs again lots of good links http://t.co/67FFV70Rd3 #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:20

Most CCQs produce short answers or even yes/no ones #ELTchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:20

RT @mary28sou: I often ask Ss for another example of the structure I've presented - does that count as a CCQ? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:20

RT @Marisa_C: Sharing a simple google search on CCQs again lots of good links http://t.co/67FFV70Rd3 #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:20

RT @SueAnnan: Most CCQs produce short answers or even yes/no ones #ELTchat > for me the best kind

KemparisKostas

3/12/2014 21:20

Is there any limit on how many CCQs we can design for a lesson of 60 min Marisa? #eltchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:21

@mary28sou I don't think so. Ss just parrot what you've said in a slightly different way #eltchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:21

@HanaTicha @mary28sou not exactly. How do you know they are not just substituting ? #ELTchat

Staplefordk

3/12/2014 21:21

RT @Marisa_C: "How do you design good CCQ's & ICQ"s (Concept & Instruction Checking Questions)" - our topic for #ELTchat in abt one hour - …

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:21

@KemparisKostas i think  ‘limit’ is the wrong way to look at it #ELTchat

UCOL5Diploma

3/12/2014 21:22

RT @Marisa_C: "How do you design good CCQ's & ICQ"s (Concept & Instruction Checking Questions)" - our topic for #ELTchat in abt one hour - …

EdLaur

3/12/2014 21:22

Homework for me for this week. RT @Marisa_C: Sharing a simple google search on CCQs again lots of good links http://t.co/pC2CF1KrHU #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 21:22

What if after a few CCQs some Ss don't understand but most have got it. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:22

@ChristineMulla RT @KemparisKostas:A limit on how many CCQs we can design for a lesson of 60 min  #eltchat > What do u all think?

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:23

@KemparisKostas It will depend on how much 'teaching' you are doing. If it is very student-centred, not many #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:23

@ChristineMulla good point - can u get them in prs to explain perhaps? Often see Ts ask the same Ss tho -or ONE st answers T is OK #ELTchat

naomishema

3/12/2014 21:23

RT @ChristineMulla: What if after a few CCQs some Ss don't understand but most have got it. #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:24

@Marisa_C @ChristineMulla @KemparisKostas tom e the ‘limit’ would be on the number of concepts introduced nit the ccqs #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:24

@Marisa_C @ChristineMulla @KemparisKostas Not sure I'd be able to put a limit. It depends on how the sts respond I think #ELTchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:24

@Marisa_C @ChristineMulla @KemparisKostas Your Ss should definitely not feel as if interrogated by the police :-) #ELTchat

KemparisKostas

3/12/2014 21:24

That is what I was thinking SueAnnan. We don't have to overdo it. #eltchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:24

@HanaTicha @Marisa_C @ChristineMulla @KemparisKostas Can CCQs not be student-generated? #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:24

RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C @ChristineMulla @KemparisKostas tom e the ‘limit’ would be on the number of concepts introduced nit the ccqs #EL…

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:25

I think no depends on complexity of the concept or forms shown - but what I often see is Ts asking same 1 or 2 Ss and moving on #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:25

RT @HanaTicha: @Marisa_C @ChristineMulla @KemparisKostas Your Ss should definitely not feel as if interrogated by the police :-) #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:25

RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C @ChristineMulla @KemparisKostas tom e the ‘limit’ would be on the number of concepts introduced nit the ccqs #EL…

KemparisKostas

3/12/2014 21:25

We have to use different interaction patterns-not just the same Ss all the time #eltchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:25

Good question. Can they? If we are testing the students understanding? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:25

@Shaunwilden good point - can CCQ's be generated by Ss? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:25

@Shaunwilden @HanaTicha @Marisa_C @ChristineMulla @KemparisKostas Ho would you do that? #eltchat

MicaelaCarey

3/12/2014 21:25

@SueAnnan @KemparisKostas CCQs should be concise & effective- ss might tune out after too many #eltchat

naomishema

3/12/2014 21:26

Those Ss who don't get it - important that whole lesson not be frontal so that T can "reach" them without driving others crazy. #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:26

@Marisa_C Totally agree Marisa #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:26

@MicaelaCarey  I think that a couple is usually enough #ELTchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:26

@Marisa_C I try to focus on the weaker Ss when asking CCQs. If they know, the stronger ones will too #eltchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 21:26

@Marisa_C @KemparisKostas Um, maybe depends on focus of lesson. If new things come up, new CCQs? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:27

I call it "Ideas Behind" - e.g. "I wish u wouldn't smoke" Ss have to say "But you do" & I don't like it" #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:27

RT @Marisa_C: I call it "Ideas Behind" - e.g. "I wish u wouldn't smoke" Ss have to say "But you do" & I don't like it" #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:27

So a HO or slide with TL and Ss write "ideas behind" each sentence #ELTchat

KKindrat

3/12/2014 21:28

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HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:28

Too many could result in rewording in as complex a way as the first time round. Effective CCQs should be few #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:29

Do time lines count as CCQ's? E.g. can u ask Ss to make a timeline or to choose one? #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:30

would your CCqs vary if you chose two dif. marker sentences of the same structure? #ELTchat

mary28sou

3/12/2014 21:30

Thank you Marisa for the "ideas Behind" idea. I will try it out for sure. #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:30

RT @Marisa_C: Do time lines count as CCQ's? E.g. can u ask Ss to make a timeline or to choose one? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:30

@SueAnnan Example please? #ELTchat

ruwaida_meral

3/12/2014 21:30

@ELTchat. #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

3/12/2014 21:31

Have to admit I never analyze Qs but ask them to get sts thinking or to clarify something. Some adults also prefer explanations. #eltchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 21:31

@HanaTicha @Marisa_C @KemparisKostas I sometimes get the ones I'm still worried don't get it to write a sentence or question. #ELTchat

eilymurphy

3/12/2014 21:31

@Marisa_C some Ss definitely prefer visual timelines, but when they show it 2 u , u can still do a quick CCQ #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:31

@MarjorieRosenbe sure they do - it's easier #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:32

@SueAnnan not sure i follow #eltchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:32

RT @eilymurphy: @Marisa_C some Ss definitely prefer visual timelines, but when they show it 2 u , u can still do a quick CCQ #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:32

RT @Marisa_C: Do time lines count as CCQ's? E.g. can u ask Ss to make a timeline or to choose one? #ELTchat

naomishema

3/12/2014 21:32

RT @eilymurphy: @Marisa_C some Ss definitely prefer visual timelines> Good 2 relate 2 learning styles ! #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:32

@eilymurphy or show TWO visuals and Ss say which one - that's ur CCQ #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:33

RT @Marisa_C: Do time lines count as CCQ's? E.g. can u ask Ss to make a timeline or to choose one? #ELTchat - repeating Question

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:33

@Marisa_C Well they'll help when checking grammar #ELTchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:33

I sometimes let my Ss summarize the whole text in L1 if difficult (after listening, reading). #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 21:33

@MicaelaCarey @SueAnnan @KemparisKostas Agreed! #eltchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:33

@Marisa_C What about clines? #ELTchat

eilymurphy

3/12/2014 21:33

RT @eilymurphy: @Marisa_C 2 visuals - and they decide - great idea :-D #ELTchat

mary28sou

3/12/2014 21:34

Not sure you can create CCQ's for every structure taught. Could we mention "favorite" CCQ-friendly ones? Maybe examples of CCQ's? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:34

@HanaTicha not a CCQ i'm afraid dear Hana - CCQ's check the ideas/meanings implicit in words, structures, functions #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:34

She wishes she'd brought an umbrella / she wishes she'd had time to eat dinner :-)What CCqs would you use? would they be similar #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:35

@HadaLitim @Marisa_C Would be a good way of checkin things that can be graded  #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 21:35

@Shaunwilden @HanaTicha @Marisa_C @KemparisKostas That's a great idea. Get Ss who understand ask a question. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:35

RT @HadaLitim: @Marisa_C What about clines? #ELTchat - a great way to check voc of degrees - like from hot to cold etx

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:35

@Marisa_C No? :-( But at least I make sure everybody got it in the end :-) #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:36

RT @Shaunwilden: @HadaLitim @Marisa_C Would be a good way of checkin things that can be graded  #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:37

another way of decentering is to get Ss in prs or grps to write one or two check questions (following an example u have modelled) #eltchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:37

@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden yes, and for adverbs of frequency is a favourite in coursebooks #eltchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:38

RT @Marisa_C: another way of decentering is to get Ss in prs or grps to write one or two check questions (following an example u have model…

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:38

I lkie clines :-) #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:38

@Marisa_C Great idea, will have to try that #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:39

@HadaLitim @Shaunwilden  yeah!  A thermometer activity too :-) #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:39

should you always ask full questions? #ELTchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:39

@HadaLitim @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Like when you check the diff between 'always and 'sometimes you use dots for the number of days #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:40

@SueAnnan for same structure same question types bt different content #eltchat (sorry mistyped earlier)

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:40

@SueAnnan Why not? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:40

@HanaTicha @HadaLitim @Shaunwilden yes but a CCQ suggest u ask the Ss to make the dots not you #eltchat :-)

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:41

@Marisa_C @HadaLitim @Shaunwilden Sure. That's what I meant  #eltchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:41

RT @Shaunwilden: @SueAnnan Why not? #ELTchat > yes why not indeed

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:41

@HanaTicha @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden That's a new one for me Hana. I usually use percentages #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:41

@Shaunwilden is it necessary at low levels? #ELTchat

mary28sou

3/12/2014 21:41

Thanks for the ideas and inspirations everyone, must leave already early start tomorrow. #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:41

@SueAnnan So you’d cut out what? #ELTchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:42

@HadaLitim @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Clever but what if you teach young learners? :-) #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:42

OK one last Q abt CCQ's - do u include other info? Like is this formal or not? Couls u say it to ur boss? intonation? etc #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:42

What are the pitfalls of CCQs? #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 21:43

@HanaTicha @Marisa_C @KemparisKostas They should be as closed as possible too, leading to the item being checked. #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:43

@HadaLitim Can be mrs complicated that the thing you were teaching #eltchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:43

@HanaTicha get them to draw thermometers or glasses of water #ELTchat

Innov8rEduc8r

3/12/2014 21:43

Ahhhhhh missed the chat....Saw all your tweets coming up and frantically connected...alas it's nearly over #eltchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:43

@mary28sou Thanks for taking part Mary - goodnight and see you next week at an earlier time :) #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:43

RT @HadaLitim: What are the pitfalls of CCQs? #ELTchat > good question

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:43

@Marisa_C Good Q. I don't do it as part of a CCQ but I make sure that I ask the Q at some point. Register is important #ELTchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:43

@HadaLitim They make the lessons a little inauthentic - sometimes #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

3/12/2014 21:44

@HadaLitim overdone they can seem patronising #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:44

@Shaunwilden OKay. Can't think of anything at the mo. #ELTchat

harrisonmike

3/12/2014 21:44

@marisa_c concept checking questions are tailored to whatever concept is being dealt with surely? #eltchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:44

RT @harrisonmike: @marisa_c concept checking questions are tailored to whatever concept is being dealt with surely? #eltchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:45

I don't normally ask my little son CCQs in L1 - HE asks if he wants to know something #eltchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:45

@harrisonmike @marisa_c Hi Mike. Marisa was answering me when I asked if the Qs varied with diff marker qs #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:45

RT @KateLloyd05: @HadaLitim overdone they can seem patronising #ELTchat > yes this also true of inane ICQ's (are u in prs or alone now?) :-D

harrisonmike

3/12/2014 21:45

@sueannan @shaunwilden think CCQs at lower levels have to be much more planned/thought out. potential to confuse sts #eltchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:46

RT @KateLloyd05: @HadaLitim overdone they can seem patronising #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:46

RT @HanaTicha: @HadaLitim They make the lessons a little inauthentic - sometimes #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:46

@HanaTicha But if you don’t understand what he wants don’t you check? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:46

RT @SueAnnan: @Marisa_C Good Q. I don't do it as part of a CCQ but I make sure that I ask the Q at some point. Register is important #ELTch…

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:46

@harrisonmike @sueannan I think they need to be planned out whatever the level - as lvl increases concepts tougher #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:46

How many of you use ICQs? I don't always remember to do so TBH  #ELTchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:46

@Shaunwilden :-) Let me think about this question for a while #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:47

@HanaTicha with YLs and concrete vocab or lang CCQ's can be visuals (choose) or mime (which?) or do (same #eltchat

harrisonmike

3/12/2014 21:47

@marisa_c @katelloyd05 @hadalitim depends on how much you can expect sts to be on task/have an idea what theyre sposed to be doing #eltchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:47

CCQs require two skills - knowing how to formulate them and being able to grade one's language appropriately #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:47

RT @SueAnnan: How many of you use ICQs? I don't always remember to do so TBH  #ELTchat > if i don't  I always pay for it - Murphy's law

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:47

RT @Shaunwilden: @harrisonmike @sueannan I think they need to be planned out whatever the level - as lvl increases concepts tougher #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 21:48

@HanaTicha @HadaLitim They can confuse if not structured correctly. #ELTchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:48

@Marisa_C My previous tweet was related to the potential  inauthenticity of CCqs = one of the pitfalls #ELTchat

harrisonmike

3/12/2014 21:48

@shaunwilden @sueannan agree. I think it's better if frames r planned out, as u can never be sure what concepts will need checking #eltchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:48

RT @harrisonmike: @shaunwilden @sueannan agree. I think it's better if frames r planned out, as u can never be sure what concepts will need…

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:48

@HadaLitim True - using lang appropriate to the level key in presenting and checking language #ELTchat

MicaelaCarey

3/12/2014 21:48

@SueAnnan I use a lot of ICQs with my YLs #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

3/12/2014 21:49

@Marisa_C Also faster and my corporate clients prefer it. #eltchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:49

@SueAnnan I've learnt to always do, especially with HW. It prevents the classic 'I didn't know you said that teacher' #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:50

I work mostly with adults at high levels, and am guilty of assuming they understand :-( #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:50

@HanaTicha CCQ's not authentic tho mums do use a lot of lang that could be construed as CCQ's with children #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:50

@SueAnnan I think that’s common assumption #ELTchat

eilymurphy

3/12/2014 21:50

@MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C true - they like the quickfire side of CCQs #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:50

@SueAnnan same here - but as i said - sod's law.... what can go wrong will go wrong #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:50

@Shaunwilden I do occasionally get bitten though #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:50

@SueAnnan So are they less needed with higher levels? #ELTchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:51

@Marisa_C Very true. So it's more about 'how' than 'if' or 'how often' #eltchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:52

@HadaLitim @SueAnnan No! I often pretend I understand :-) And I'm happy people assume I do #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:52

@HadaLitim noit really Hada. I think it isnt always safe to make assumptions #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 21:52

@HadaLitim @SueAnnan Me too! #eltchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:52

RT @Marisa_C: @SueAnnan same here - but as i said - sod's law.... what can go wrong will go wrong #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

3/12/2014 21:52

@Marisa_C not sure but is game like 'say my word' these kinds of Qs? #eltchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:53

@HanaTicha @SueAnnan Haha! #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:53

RT @HadaLitim: @SueAnnan So are they less needed with higher levels? #ELTchat> NO! Bt at higher levels a collocation grid or LA Qs suit best

MicaelaCarey

3/12/2014 21:53

@HadaLitim @SueAnnan #eltchat  Yes, particularly with HW- can be a sticky issue- 'I didn't understand it' can be an excuse.

Ashowski

3/12/2014 21:53

@HadaLitim @SueAnnan I always use CCQ and ICQ even with highest levels - can a native always 100% understand a task? #eltchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:53

RT @Ashowski: @HadaLitim @SueAnnan I always use CCQ and ICQ even with highest levels - can a native always 100% understand a task? #eltchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:53

RT @Ashowski: @HadaLitim @SueAnnan I always use CCQ and ICQ even with highest levels - can a native always 100% understand a task? #eltchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:54

Heading towards volunteering time…..#ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:54

RT @Ashowski: @HadaLitim @SueAnnan I always use CCQ and ICQ even with highest levels - can a native always 100% understand a task? #eltchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:54

@Ashowski very true - #eltchat tho @SueAnnan calls me little miss doom ha ha wait till u get bitten again miss annan

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:54

PLease volunteer to write the summary of tonight's chat #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:54

RT @SueAnnan: PLease volunteer to write the summary of tonight's chat #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:55

@Shaunwilden god u frightened me with ur new pic #eltchat is that how dads look?

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:55

I think higher level Ss and adult learners actually ask themselves if they don't understand - kids and teens don't care #ELTchat

EdLaur

3/12/2014 21:55

RT @MicaelaCarey: @SueAnnan @KemparisKostas CCQs should be concise & effective- ss might tune out after too many #eltchat

KateLloyd05

3/12/2014 21:55

@Ashowski @HadaLitim @SueAnnan there's always someone not listening #ELTchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:55

@KateLloyd05 @Ashowski @HadaLitim That's very true #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 21:55

@Marisa_C @HanaTicha I often use CCQs or CCQesque qs with my little bro quite often. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:55

RT @SueAnnan: PLease volunteer to write the summary of tonight's chat #ELTchat > yes do - where is @cuppa_coffee he should write it he asked

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 21:56

@HanaTicha hmm not sure thats true, i think sts try &understand often cos they don’t want to feel embarrassed or embarrass teacher #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:58

OK 3 minutes before the end shall I ask u some CCQ'\s now to check what you understood from this #ELTchat ? :-D

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 21:58

@Marisa_C LOL #ELTchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 21:58

@Shaunwilden Maybe. But teens sometimes feel more embarrassed to ask that not to understand #eltchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:58

CCQ's can be asked at any point T or F? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 21:59

@HanaTicha My sts are all adults #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 21:59

Use the TL to make sure your Ss answer correctly - T or F? #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 22:00

@Marisa_C I think true. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 22:00

@ChristineMulla which one :-) #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 22:00

@Marisa_C F #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

3/12/2014 22:01

Night all. Chat gave me sth to think about (as usual). #eltchat

SueAnnan

3/12/2014 22:01

Have we got a summary writer?Please?#ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 22:01

Lol am not asking any more - here is the key 1) T 2) F  - have we got a summary volunteer please? #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

3/12/2014 22:01

Right, thanks for joining #eltchat next week’s at 12 GMT

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 22:02

@MarjorieRosenbe Goodnight Marjorie #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 22:02

@Marisa_C To CCQs at any point. Words can come up at any point, so CCQs are possible. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 22:02

@ChristineMulla yes :-) #ELTchat

KateLloyd05

3/12/2014 22:02

Goodnight all. #ELTchat

HanaTicha

3/12/2014 22:03

Good night. An interesting topic and a lovely chat, as usual. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 22:04

Good night everyone - am in the middle of writing a CCQ blog post  sequel to my first one - so loads of food for thought tonight #eltchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 22:05

@HanaTicha Goodnight Hana #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 22:05

Can anyone write a summary? Does it have a deadline/certain format? #ELTchat

HadaLitim

3/12/2014 22:06

Goodnight everyone - chat next week and thanks for all the inspiration and tips #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 22:06

@ChristineMulla ANyone can write a summary - Yes!!!! Would be happy to help #ELTchat

eilymurphy

3/12/2014 22:07

RT @eilymurphy: @ChristineMulla @Marisa_C G'night all and as always, Tx for the ideas #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 22:07

@ChristineMulla and if u don't have a blog, then just send as a word document and we'll post on the #ELTchat blog

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 22:09

@Marisa_C Could try if you liked. Would be over the weekend if that's OK. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 22:10

@ChristineMulla that would be lovely - will send you link to transcript and a couple of nice blog post examples for ideas - #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 22:11

@ChristineMulla or just check this page here for examples http://t.co/mkZQucpr6q our #ELTchat summaries index

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 22:11

@Marisa_C Would this kind of format be OK http://t.co/xRBoWs17te #ELTchat

eilymurphy

3/12/2014 22:12

@ChristineMulla @Marisa_Cheers Christine for yr hard work!- and BTW TX for Mondays' #eltchinwag - ideas came in  handy today :-D #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 22:13

@ChristineMulla looks fine - just try to group ideas together and use a bit more prose than the 140 :-) #ELTchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 22:18

@Marisa_C Should I go through all the tweets from here, on the #? #ELTchat

yya2

3/12/2014 22:18

Essay-Grading Software Seen as Time-Saving Tool | @scoopit http://t.co/hyvnOXeDUb #langchat #eltchat #mfltwitterati #edchat

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 22:23

@Marisa_C Will do. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3/12/2014 22:27

@ChristineMulla will tweet you the transcript soon #ELTchat

acc_istanbul

3/12/2014 22:29

the limit is not in the sky...~ #edchat #engchat #ptchat #learningeveryday #ELTchat http://t.co/ENX0s4ieKR

ChristineMulla

3/12/2014 22:40

@Marisa_C Great, thank you. #ELTchat

 

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