| username |
utc date |
status |
| BobK99 |
11/27/2013 11:57 |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C I'm ready and glad to be back. As promised to M, I'll be doing the #eltchat summary. |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 11:58 |
RT @BobK99: @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C I'm ready and glad to be back. As promised to M, I'll be doing the #eltchat summary.> Great! Welcome :-) |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 11:59 |
#eltchat For the next hour I'll be participating in the #eltchat about learner-generated content. |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:00 |
Welcome to #ELTchat everyone - we'll be talking abt S-generated content and PLEASE do not post other irreleant links for ONE hour :-) thx |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:00 |
Morning all #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:00 |
Hi everyone #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:01 |
@OUPELTGlobal @BobK99 @teflgeek @Shaunwilden heyb good to see you all #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:01 |
#eltchat hello everyone. Looking forward to the discussion on S-generated content. |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:04 |
RT @teflgeek So.. is the question more about how to effectively exploit SGen content? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:04 |
RT @teflgeek: So.. is the question more about how to effectively exploit SGen content? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:04 |
So what do you consider student-gen content - anything - e,g, sentences frm exercises or connected spoke & written text? #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:05 |
@Marisa_C isn't SGC more spontaneous and personal than pre-determined answers? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:06 |
@teflgeek @Shaunwilden I guess so - Q seems to be what do we do with it once produced #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:06 |
#eltchat How do we get students to generate content? What is exactly? |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:07 |
@Marisa_C @teflgeek I have to confess I am not sure I understand the topic #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:07 |
@teflgeek may be - but smtms can be short utterances - e.g. decisions after brainstorm or game - other Ss listen to, assess, score #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:08 |
RT @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @teflgeek I have to confess I am not sure I understand the topic #ELTchat » No - neither do I |
| BobK99 |
11/27/2013 12:08 |
RT #eltchat @BobK99: Defining terms: by SGCont. do we mean work they've prepared or anything they produce (like sp during a grp exrc)? |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:09 |
@Shaunwilden @teflgeek te he he - am trying to interpret Lesley's Q in her absence too @cioccas #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:09 |
#eltchat For me, it's when SS generate content that I can then use in class, e.g. a text, puzzle, dialogue, poster, etc. |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:10 |
I would go by what @BobK99 says - Hi @ManosSY and long time no see #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:10 |
@OUPELTGlobal Aha thats makes sense #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:10 |
@OUPELTGlobal agree #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:10 |
It seems that @cioccas wanted to look at getting the most out of learner contributions - e.g. do a debate, then write an essay #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
11/27/2013 12:11 |
RT @BobK99: @OUPELTGlobal Yes! If it's just using S errors as a springboard for correx, that's just what we do. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:11 |
@teflgeek @cioccas yes - so debate comments need to be actively listened to, recorded in some way then used for follow up writing #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:11 |
#eltchat For me the interesting part is what to do with that essay, for example. |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:13 |
It could be Ss writing letters or emails that other Ss have to reply to? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:13 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: #eltchat For me the interesting part is what to do with that essay, for example> u mean other than error spotting..? |
| BobK99 |
11/27/2013 12:14 |
RT @Marisa_C: It could be Ss writing letters or emails that other Ss have to reply to? #eltchat >Term-long game of tag? |
| mary28sou |
11/27/2013 12:14 |
#eltchat hello and could we focus for a few minutes on exploiting what Ss produce in class eg roleplay or discussion ? |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:15 |
RT @mary28sou: #eltchat hello and could we focus for a few minutes on exploiting what Ss produce in class eg roleplay or discussion ? |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:15 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat Yes, using their content as if it were the course book |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:15 |
@BobK99 I suppose so - or a class serial - each group reads previous story and contributes an episode #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:15 |
@BobK99 @Marisa_C Mario Rinvolucri has a long term correspondence activity in one of his books - individual T-S letter writing #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:16 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat @BobK99 or their contributions could be on a notice board with the whole contributing |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:16 |
A voicethread story with a cliffhanger recorded by one student can invite others to continue - that sort of thing #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:16 |
#eltchat oops, that's whole class contributing |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:17 |
@OUPELTGlobal @Marisa_C @BobK99 or put them all on a notice board and get them to upvote & downvote reddit style #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:17 |
RT @Marisa_C: A voicethread story with a cliffhanger recorded by one student can invite others to continue - that sort of thing #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:17 |
So this could also include making exercise i.e. gap fills, audio ext for each other? #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:18 |
@Shaunwilden could use textivate for that #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:18 |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat I like that idea. My SS loved making their own grammar and vocab exercises for each other |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:18 |
http://t.co/Tdg11VqO7F #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:19 |
@Shaunwilden yes! - or changing exercises in some way (or turning into complete nonsense and holding a nonsense competition :-) #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:20 |
#eltchat S-generated content makes the content more personal and learning easier. Gets students more involved because lang is about them. |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:20 |
RT @Marisa_C: turning into complete nonsense and holding a nonsense competition :-) #eltchat with some of my ex sts this wouldnt take long! |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:21 |
@Shaunwilden well teenagers would enjoy this more i guess - more than adults anyway #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:21 |
@OUPELTGlobal and also helps you focus lessons on individual goals more effectively #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:21 |
RT @teflgeek: @OUPELTGlobal and also helps you focus lessons on individual goals more effectively #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:23 |
I suppose a TBL framework is more conducive to this type of angle - use SGEN do various tasks - improve, edit, change angle #eltchat |
| AmyDeLong |
11/27/2013 12:24 |
#eltchat It is crucial that student generated content has a purpose (like a response) other than error spotting. I like Yelp reviews! |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:25 |
@AmyDeLong can u elaborate on yelp pls #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:25 |
#eltchat In my classes, S-generated content personalised the book. Students who didn't like image for a reading text, found a better one, eg |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:26 |
@OUPELTGlobal That's an idea - the learner generated coursebook! Hmm. might play with that a bit this year... #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
11/27/2013 12:26 |
MT @AmyDeLong: #eltchat [C]rucial that SGC has a purpose (like a response) other than err spotting. I like Yelp revs! " YELP? (Like SWOT?) |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:27 |
http://t.co/EkEDoqL5XR - online listings and services directory with user reviews #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:27 |
@teflgeek #eltchat The course book provides a basis on which they create their own. Great material at the end of the year for them to take. |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:28 |
@teflgeek @OUPELTGlobal How’d it work, would they make it for themselves or future users? Would it be based on current textbook? #ELTchat |
| mary28sou |
11/27/2013 12:28 |
#eltchat is it good to record one or more S and use that as material with another class? |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:29 |
@AmyDeLong thanks :-) #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:29 |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat @teflgeek As they generated their content, they would all have a text, a word search puzzle, etc so each had a book |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:29 |
@Shaunwilden @OUPELTGlobal I think it would more be for themselves no? #eltchat more personalised that way. |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:30 |
#eltchat They created their own grammar exercises, comp activities for their texts, etc |
| BobK99 |
11/27/2013 12:30 |
Ss review a course book for real (Amazon, say) #eltchat |
| teacherkristina |
11/27/2013 12:30 |
@mary28sou think so, but you'd need permission from S (and parents) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:30 |
@teflgeek @OUPELTGlobal and these days it’s easy to make things into ‘actual’ books so that would be an added motivation #ELTchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:31 |
@teflgeek #eltchat @Shaunwilden They loved it when others used their materials - solved the puzzle they had made, for ex. |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:31 |
@BobK99 write advice to authors is what i have done in the past #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:31 |
@BobK99 I tried that last year as a letter to the authors. SS weren't very enthusiastic. #eltchat |
| elmasitaa |
11/27/2013 12:32 |
RT @Shaunwilden: The 12 GMT #eltchat is How can we use learner generated content (text-speech) to integrate & practise other skills? |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:32 |
@OUPELTGlobal @Shaunwilden if you had a decent syllabus, you wouldn't need a course book at all! ;) #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:33 |
@teflgeek #eltchat @Shaunwilden no comment :) |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:33 |
Blog posts are SGC - I think that is a given re what you can do here #eltchat take it further with podcasts, mixes, videos ? |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:34 |
@Marisa_C mobile phones can help with this #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:34 |
@Marisa_C Yes why not there are loads of projects that sts could do for each other esp using m-technology #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:34 |
RT @teflgeek: @Marisa_C mobile phones can help with this #eltchat > yes! |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:35 |
#eltchat I think technology now makes S-generated content easier to create and use in class and outside of class |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:35 |
@OUPELTGlobal @Shaunwilden @teflgeek all of you thinking in same direction :-) #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:37 |
so maybe one of the key things in exploiting SGCont effectively is having somewhere to put it all (Blog / wiki etc) #eltchat |
| AmyDeLong |
11/27/2013 12:37 |
@OUPELTGlobal Agree about technology! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:37 |
@cioccas wondered also how you can actively use across skills - e,.g. ss create podcast; use as a listening exercise #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:38 |
@Marisa_C @cioccas Yes make audio exercises etc that are turned in to a podcast - great fun #ELTchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:38 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat @cioccas exactly, and when they know other ss will be listening/watching, they pay more attention to the language |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:40 |
@OUPELTGlobal @Marisa_C @cioccas plus as it's recorded, they can vet their own performance & errors - become more aware of them #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:40 |
#eltchat In my classes S-generated content became more challenging the the coursebook-bsed work. It raised the level of the class |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:41 |
@OUPELTGlobal yes - using SGC does seem to engage and generate more attention to producing something of higher quality #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:42 |
A pecha kucha or shorter version of one cna be highly motivating and generate interest #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:43 |
Ss can record on present.me or similar - generates lots of rehearsal practice too #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
11/27/2013 12:43 |
@Marisa_C Fine, except when sch ban them #eltchat. I i/v'd for a job where I was going to use mine (hidden alarm) , & Head said 'OK ...1/2 |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:43 |
#eltchat It was great when I used their texts and exercises on tests. It seemed to make the tests less stressful. |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:43 |
RT @Marisa_C: Ss can record on present.me or similar - generates lots of rehearsal practice too #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:43 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: #eltchat It was great when I used their texts and exercises on tests. It seemed to make the tests less stressful.> like |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:45 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: #eltchat when I used their texts and exercises on tests. It seemed to make the tests less stressful.> that’s a nice idea! |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:46 |
#eltchat After a while ss looked forward to what they would create next. Must admit, tiring to manage so much content in the beginning |
| BobK99 |
11/27/2013 12:46 |
RT @BobK99: @Marisa_C @OUPELTGlobal @Shaunwilden 2/2... 'so long as you use it as an opp'ty to restate the ban'!#eltchat #1dayIllRemember |
| mary28sou |
11/27/2013 12:48 |
#eltchat sorry for just lurking, really like your ideas will try some soon with my business EN students |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:48 |
Did someone just pitifully ask for people to follow them on linkedin using the #eltchat hashtag? |
| AmyDeLong |
11/27/2013 12:49 |
#eltchat Love the idea of using SGC on tests! ( @OUPELTGlobal ) So many ideas cooking in my brain now! |
| BobK99 |
11/27/2013 12:49 |
@Marisa_C Ban tech - tablets & mobiles. #eltchat #opportunity4dogme :-) |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:49 |
@Shaunwilden yep. probably a bot. #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:50 |
#eltchat It was great to see ss so involved in their learning. |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:50 |
@teflgeek Aha fair enough, i won’t rant about it then #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:51 |
@AmyDeLong @OUPELTGlobal Taking that a step further, couldn’t they just write their own test? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:52 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @AmyDeLong @OUPELTGlobal Taking that a step further, couldn’t they just write their own test? #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
11/27/2013 12:53 |
@Shaunwilden @AmyDeLong @OUPELTGlobal Rather like a PGCE colleague's idea: studen-generated lesson plans #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:53 |
@Shaunwilden @AmyDeLong @OUPELTGlobal IME they tend to be ridiculously harsh on each other and the validity is questionable... #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:53 |
@BobK99 @AmyDeLong @OUPELTGlobal How do they work? #ELTchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:53 |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat @AmyDeLong I like that idea. |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:54 |
@BobK99 I've done that - told them to plan my next lesson for them #eltchat great fun for them, good way to get them thinking about aims |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:54 |
@teflgeek i found that too when doing cpe peer correction of essays - my grades always thought TOOOOO lenient by ss #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:54 |
@teflgeek Yes def validity issues but am sure they’d pick language etc they think is useful to be tested i.e. think they shld know #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:55 |
@Shaunwilden or language that they think their peers won't know! #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:55 |
@Marisa_C I make them mark the sample answers in the handbook first and compare to examiner comments #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:56 |
@teflgeek Not if they’re making a test they all have to take surely #ELTchat |
| mary28sou |
11/27/2013 12:56 |
#eltchat could you please mention the evening topic? |
| BobK99 |
11/27/2013 12:56 |
@Shaunwilden @AmyDeLong @OUPELTGlobal Discuss what's needed (as c/r activity), T gives S a pro forma, and Bob's your psycho #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 12:57 |
@mary28sou It’s How to become an ELT writer #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:57 |
If probs with DOS or syllabus- set an hour or half hour aside every 1 or 2 wks for ss to bring something for other Ss to use #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 12:57 |
@Shaunwilden Depends on how young they are, but yes - even then! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 12:59 |
Two minutes to post you last hot idea of SGC and how it can be used !!! :-) #eltchat Quick! |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 12:59 |
#eltchat wow, has an hour passed by already? Really love this topic and this chat. |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 13:00 |
Any thoughts on using student generated poetry ? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 13:01 |
@Marisa_C Yes, don’t do it :-) #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 13:01 |
my favourite SGC speaking activity: http://t.co/n1DVpoh2P8 #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
11/27/2013 13:01 |
@Marisa_C Gotta go now. Maybe 2/3 dys turnaround on the summary, as I've a <hawk_spit>Windows 8</hawk_spit> b'day pres to get goin! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 13:01 |
@Shaunwilden no!!! #eltchat why? |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 13:02 |
@Marisa_C Teaching Grammar Creatively has a lot of that kind of thing #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 13:02 |
@BobK99 thanks for doing summary Bob - will get you transcript in a bit #eltchat @Shaunwilden |
| mary28sou |
11/27/2013 13:02 |
#eltchat too personal of course |
| jankenb2 |
11/27/2013 13:03 |
late but iS-gen content serves as prewrite narrative. "talking to the text" can be 1st step in exp or persuasive write. #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell |
11/27/2013 13:03 |
Motivating Students to Learn During the Holidays http://t.co/EXoyVbYxig #esl #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
11/27/2013 13:04 |
#eltchat Thank you everyone for a great chat. |
| grainofsand00 |
11/27/2013 13:04 |
#eltchat #efl higher level students can do a survey and present in graphical form to the class uses lots of grammatical points |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 13:04 |
RT @teflgeek: @Marisa_C Teaching Grammar Creatively has a lot of that kind of thing #eltchat > Yes! and a book called a web of words i think |
| mary28sou |
11/27/2013 13:04 |
Looking forward to this evening on #eltchat have a nice day! |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 13:04 |
RT @grainofsand00: #eltchat #efl higher level students can do a survey and present in graphical form to the class uses lots of grammatical … |
| teflgeek |
11/27/2013 13:05 |
thanks all for a fun #eltchat - hopefully we answered the question! |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 13:05 |
@OUPELTGlobal @jankenb2 @mary28sou @teflgeek @BobK99 @AmyDeLong @Shaunwilden Thanks to all for joining! @grainofsand00 #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11/27/2013 13:10 |
Have received my email from #iatefl and my proposal has been accepted :-) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11/27/2013 13:11 |
@Marisa_C Yes just got mine as well :-) #eltchat |
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