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Using Student Generated Content to Integrate and Practise other skills

Page history last edited by Marisa Constantinides 10 years, 6 months ago

student_generated_content.xlsx

 

transcript of 1st #eltchat on 27/11/2013

 

Blog post in response to this chat  http://eltreflections.wordpress.com/2013/11/28/creating/#more-392 

 

username utc date status
BobK99 11/27/2013 11:57 @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C I'm ready and glad to be back. As promised to M, I'll be doing the #eltchat summary.
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 11:58 RT @BobK99: @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C I'm ready and glad to be back. As promised to M, I'll be doing the #eltchat summary.> Great! Welcome :-)
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 11:59 #eltchat For the next hour I'll be participating in the #eltchat about learner-generated content.
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:00 Welcome to #ELTchat everyone - we'll be talking abt S-generated content and PLEASE do  not post other irreleant links for ONE hour :-) thx
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:00 Morning all #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:00 Hi everyone #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:01 @OUPELTGlobal @BobK99 @teflgeek @Shaunwilden heyb good to see you all #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:01 #eltchat hello everyone. Looking forward to the discussion on S-generated content.
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:04 RT @teflgeek So.. is the question more about how to effectively exploit SGen content? #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:04 RT @teflgeek: So.. is the question more about how to effectively exploit SGen content? #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:04 So what do you consider student-gen content - anything - e,g, sentences frm exercises or connected spoke & written text? #eltchat
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:05 @Marisa_C isn't SGC more spontaneous and personal than pre-determined answers? #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:06 @teflgeek @Shaunwilden I guess so - Q seems to be what do we do with it once produced #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:06 #eltchat How do we get students to generate content? What is exactly?
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:07 @Marisa_C @teflgeek I have to confess I am not sure I understand the topic  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:07 @teflgeek may be - but smtms can be short utterances - e.g. decisions after brainstorm or game - other Ss listen to, assess, score #eltchat
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:08 RT @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @teflgeek I have to confess I am not sure I understand the topic  #ELTchat » No - neither do I
BobK99 11/27/2013 12:08 RT #eltchat @BobK99: Defining terms: by SGCont. do we mean work they've prepared or anything they produce (like  sp during a grp exrc)?
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:09 @Shaunwilden @teflgeek te he he - am trying to interpret Lesley's Q in her absence too  @cioccas #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:09 #eltchat For me, it's when SS generate content that I can then use in class, e.g. a text, puzzle, dialogue, poster, etc.
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:10 I would go by what @BobK99 says - Hi @ManosSY and long time no see #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:10 @OUPELTGlobal Aha thats makes sense #ELTchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:10 @OUPELTGlobal agree #eltchat
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:10 It seems that @cioccas wanted to look at getting the most out of learner contributions - e.g. do a debate, then write an essay #eltchat
BobK99 11/27/2013 12:11 RT @BobK99: @OUPELTGlobal Yes! If it's just using S errors as a springboard for correx, that's just what we do. #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:11 @teflgeek @cioccas yes - so debate comments need to be actively listened to, recorded in some way then used for follow up writing #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:11 #eltchat For me the interesting part is what to do with that essay, for example.
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:13 It could be Ss writing letters or emails that other Ss have to reply to? #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:13 RT @OUPELTGlobal: #eltchat For me the interesting part is what to do with that essay, for example> u mean other than error spotting..?
BobK99 11/27/2013 12:14 RT @Marisa_C: It could be Ss writing letters or emails that other Ss have to reply to? #eltchat >Term-long game of tag?
mary28sou 11/27/2013 12:14 #eltchat hello and could we focus for a few minutes on exploiting what Ss produce in class eg roleplay or discussion ?
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:15 RT @mary28sou: #eltchat hello and could we focus for a few minutes on exploiting what Ss produce in class eg roleplay or discussion ?
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:15 @Marisa_C #eltchat Yes, using their content as if it were the course book
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:15 @BobK99 I suppose so - or a class serial - each group reads previous story and contributes an episode #eltchat
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:15 @BobK99 @Marisa_C Mario Rinvolucri has a long term correspondence activity in one of his books - individual T-S letter writing #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:16 @Marisa_C #eltchat  @BobK99 or their contributions could be on a notice board with the whole contributing
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:16 A voicethread story with a cliffhanger recorded by one student can invite others to continue - that sort of thing #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:16 #eltchat oops, that's whole class contributing
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:17 @OUPELTGlobal @Marisa_C @BobK99 or put them all on a notice board and get them to upvote & downvote reddit style #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:17 RT @Marisa_C: A voicethread story with a cliffhanger recorded by one student can invite others to continue - that sort of thing #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:17 So this could also include making exercise i.e. gap fills, audio ext for each other? #ELTchat
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:18 @Shaunwilden could use textivate for that #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:18 @Shaunwilden #eltchat I like that idea. My SS loved making their own grammar and vocab exercises for each other
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:18 http://t.co/Tdg11VqO7F #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:19 @Shaunwilden yes! - or changing exercises in some way (or turning into complete nonsense and holding a nonsense competition :-) #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:20 #eltchat S-generated content makes the content more personal and learning easier. Gets students more involved because lang is about them.
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:20 RT @Marisa_C: turning into complete nonsense and holding a nonsense competition :-) #eltchat with some of my ex sts this wouldnt take long!
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:21 @Shaunwilden well teenagers would enjoy this more i guess - more than adults anyway #eltchat
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:21 @OUPELTGlobal and also helps you focus lessons on individual goals more effectively #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:21 RT @teflgeek: @OUPELTGlobal and also helps you focus lessons on individual goals more effectively #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:23 I suppose a TBL framework is more conducive to this type of angle - use SGEN do various tasks - improve, edit, change angle #eltchat
AmyDeLong 11/27/2013 12:24 #eltchat It is crucial that student generated content has a purpose (like a response) other than error spotting. I like Yelp reviews!
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:25 @AmyDeLong can u elaborate on yelp pls #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:25 #eltchat In my classes, S-generated content personalised the book. Students who didn't like image for a reading text, found a better one, eg
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:26 @OUPELTGlobal That's an idea - the learner generated coursebook!  Hmm.  might play with that a bit this year...  #eltchat
BobK99 11/27/2013 12:26 MT @AmyDeLong: #eltchat [C]rucial that SGC has a purpose (like a response) other than err  spotting. I like Yelp revs! " YELP? (Like SWOT?)
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:27 http://t.co/EkEDoqL5XR - online listings and services directory with user reviews #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:27 @teflgeek #eltchat The course book provides a basis on which they create their own. Great material at the end of the year for them to take.
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:28 @teflgeek @OUPELTGlobal How’d it work, would they make it for themselves or future users? Would it be based on current textbook? #ELTchat
mary28sou 11/27/2013 12:28 #eltchat is it good to record one or more S and use that as material with another class?
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:29 @AmyDeLong thanks :-) #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:29 @Shaunwilden #eltchat  @teflgeek As they generated their content, they would all have a text, a word search puzzle, etc so each had a book
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:29 @Shaunwilden @OUPELTGlobal I think it would more be for themselves no? #eltchat more personalised that way.
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:30 #eltchat They created their own grammar exercises, comp  activities for their texts, etc
BobK99 11/27/2013 12:30 Ss review a course book for real (Amazon, say) #eltchat
teacherkristina 11/27/2013 12:30 @mary28sou think so, but you'd need permission from S (and parents) #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:30 @teflgeek @OUPELTGlobal and these days it’s easy to make things into ‘actual’ books so that would be an added motivation  #ELTchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:31 @teflgeek #eltchat  @Shaunwilden They loved it when others used their materials - solved the puzzle they had made, for ex.
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:31 @BobK99 write advice to authors is what i have done in the past #eltchat
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:31 @BobK99 I tried that last year as a letter to the authors.  SS weren't very enthusiastic.  #eltchat
elmasitaa 11/27/2013 12:32 RT @Shaunwilden: The 12 GMT #eltchat is How can we use learner generated content (text-speech) to integrate & practise other skills?
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:32 @OUPELTGlobal @Shaunwilden if you had a decent syllabus, you wouldn't need a course book at all!  ;) #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:33 @teflgeek #eltchat  @Shaunwilden  no comment :)
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:33 Blog posts are SGC - I think that is a given re what you can do here #eltchat take it further with podcasts, mixes, videos ?
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:34 @Marisa_C mobile phones can help with this #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:34 @Marisa_C Yes why not there are loads of projects that sts could do for each other esp using m-technology #ELTchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:34 RT @teflgeek: @Marisa_C mobile phones can help with this #eltchat > yes!
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:35 #eltchat I think technology now makes S-generated content easier to create and use in class and outside of class
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:35 @OUPELTGlobal @Shaunwilden @teflgeek all of you thinking in same direction :-) #eltchat
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:37 so maybe one of the key things in exploiting SGCont effectively is having somewhere to put it all (Blog / wiki etc) #eltchat
AmyDeLong 11/27/2013 12:37 @OUPELTGlobal Agree about technology! #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:37 @cioccas wondered also how you can actively use across skills - e,.g. ss create podcast; use as a listening exercise #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:38 @Marisa_C @cioccas Yes make audio exercises etc that are turned in to a podcast - great fun #ELTchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:38 @Marisa_C #eltchat  @cioccas exactly, and when they know other ss will be listening/watching, they pay more attention to the language
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:40 @OUPELTGlobal @Marisa_C @cioccas plus as it's recorded, they can vet their own performance & errors - become more aware of them #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:40 #eltchat In my classes S-generated content became more challenging the the coursebook-bsed work. It raised the level of the class
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:41 @OUPELTGlobal yes - using SGC does seem to engage and generate more attention to producing something of higher quality #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:42 A pecha kucha or shorter version of one cna be highly motivating and generate interest #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:43 Ss can record on present.me or similar - generates lots of rehearsal practice too #eltchat
BobK99 11/27/2013 12:43 @Marisa_C Fine, except when sch ban them #eltchat. I i/v'd for a job where I was going to use mine (hidden alarm) , & Head said 'OK ...1/2
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:43 #eltchat It was great when I used their texts and exercises on tests. It seemed to make the tests less stressful.
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:43 RT @Marisa_C: Ss can record on present.me or similar - generates lots of rehearsal practice too #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:43 RT @OUPELTGlobal: #eltchat It was great when I used their texts and exercises on tests. It seemed to make the tests less stressful.> like
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:45 RT @OUPELTGlobal: #eltchat when I used their texts and exercises on tests. It seemed to make the tests less stressful.> that’s a nice idea!
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:46 #eltchat After a while ss looked forward to what they would create next. Must admit, tiring to manage so much content in the beginning
BobK99 11/27/2013 12:46 RT @BobK99: @Marisa_C @OUPELTGlobal @Shaunwilden  2/2... 'so long as you use it as an opp'ty to restate the ban'!#eltchat #1dayIllRemember
mary28sou 11/27/2013 12:48 #eltchat sorry for just lurking, really like your ideas will try some soon with my business EN students
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:48 Did someone just pitifully ask for people to follow them on linkedin using the #eltchat hashtag?
AmyDeLong 11/27/2013 12:49 #eltchat Love the idea of using SGC on tests! ( @OUPELTGlobal ) So many ideas cooking in my brain now!
BobK99 11/27/2013 12:49 @Marisa_C Ban tech - tablets & mobiles. #eltchat #opportunity4dogme :-)
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:49 @Shaunwilden yep.  probably a bot.  #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:50 #eltchat It was great to see ss so involved in their learning.
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:50 @teflgeek Aha fair enough, i won’t rant about it then #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:51 @AmyDeLong @OUPELTGlobal Taking that a step further, couldn’t they just write their own test? #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:52 RT @Shaunwilden: @AmyDeLong @OUPELTGlobal Taking that a step further, couldn’t they just write their own test? #eltchat
BobK99 11/27/2013 12:53 @Shaunwilden @AmyDeLong @OUPELTGlobal Rather like a PGCE colleague's idea: studen-generated lesson plans #eltchat
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:53 @Shaunwilden @AmyDeLong @OUPELTGlobal IME they tend to be ridiculously harsh on each other and the validity is questionable... #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:53 @BobK99 @AmyDeLong @OUPELTGlobal How do they work? #ELTchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:53 @Shaunwilden #eltchat  @AmyDeLong I like that idea.
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:54 @BobK99 I've done that - told them to plan my next lesson for them #eltchat great fun for them, good way to get them thinking about aims
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:54 @teflgeek i found that too when doing cpe peer correction of essays - my grades always thought TOOOOO lenient by ss #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:54 @teflgeek Yes def validity issues but am sure they’d pick language etc they think is useful to be tested i.e. think they shld know #ELTchat
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:55 @Shaunwilden or language that they think their peers won't know!  #eltchat
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:55 @Marisa_C I make them mark the sample answers in the handbook first and compare to examiner comments #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:56 @teflgeek Not if they’re making a test they all have to take surely #ELTchat
mary28sou 11/27/2013 12:56 #eltchat could you please mention the evening topic?
BobK99 11/27/2013 12:56 @Shaunwilden @AmyDeLong @OUPELTGlobal Discuss what's needed (as c/r activity), T gives S a pro forma, and Bob's your psycho #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 12:57 @mary28sou It’s How to become an ELT writer  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:57 If probs with DOS or syllabus- set an hour or half hour aside every 1 or 2 wks for ss to bring something for other Ss to use #eltchat
teflgeek 11/27/2013 12:57 @Shaunwilden Depends on how young they are, but yes - even then! #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 12:59 Two minutes to post you last hot idea of SGC and how it can be used !!! :-) #eltchat Quick!
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 12:59 #eltchat wow, has an hour passed by already? Really love this topic and this chat.
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 13:00 Any thoughts on using student generated poetry ? #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 13:01 @Marisa_C Yes, don’t do it :-) #ELTchat
teflgeek 11/27/2013 13:01 my favourite SGC speaking activity: http://t.co/n1DVpoh2P8 #eltchat
BobK99 11/27/2013 13:01 @Marisa_C Gotta go now. Maybe 2/3 dys turnaround on the summary, as I've a <hawk_spit>Windows 8</hawk_spit> b'day pres to get goin! #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 13:01 @Shaunwilden no!!! #eltchat why?
teflgeek 11/27/2013 13:02 @Marisa_C Teaching Grammar Creatively has a lot of that kind of thing #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 13:02 @BobK99 thanks for doing summary Bob - will get you transcript in a bit #eltchat @Shaunwilden
mary28sou 11/27/2013 13:02 #eltchat too personal of course
jankenb2 11/27/2013 13:03 late but iS-gen content serves as prewrite narrative. "talking to the text" can be 1st step in exp or persuasive write. #eltchat
ShellTerrell 11/27/2013 13:03 Motivating Students to Learn During the Holidays http://t.co/EXoyVbYxig #esl #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 11/27/2013 13:04 #eltchat Thank you everyone for a great chat.
grainofsand00 11/27/2013 13:04 #eltchat #efl higher level students can do a survey and present in graphical form to the class uses lots of grammatical points
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 13:04 RT @teflgeek: @Marisa_C Teaching Grammar Creatively has a lot of that kind of thing #eltchat > Yes! and a book called a web of words i think
mary28sou 11/27/2013 13:04 Looking forward to this evening on #eltchat have a nice day!
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 13:04 RT @grainofsand00: #eltchat #efl higher level students can do a survey and present in graphical form to the class uses lots of grammatical …
teflgeek 11/27/2013 13:05 thanks all for a fun #eltchat - hopefully we answered the question!
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 13:05 @OUPELTGlobal @jankenb2 @mary28sou @teflgeek @BobK99 @AmyDeLong @Shaunwilden Thanks to all for joining! @grainofsand00 #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/27/2013 13:10 Have received my email from #iatefl and my proposal has been accepted :-) #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/27/2013 13:11 @Marisa_C Yes just got mine as well :-) #eltchat

 

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