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How can teachers prepare to give a talk at a conference

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 Here's the transcript of #eltchat on the topic of How can teachers prepare to give a talk at a conference?

 

Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:02 Evening all #eltchat
theteacherjames 11/06/2013 21:02 @pjgallantry Good evening! #ELTchat
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:03 Evening, all :-) #ELTchat
SueAnnan 11/06/2013 21:03 @esolcourses  Hi Sue. Are you feeling better? #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:03 @esolcourses @theteacherjames @SueAnnan @naomishema @Shaunwilden @pjgallantry Kalispera!!! #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:04 the topic is How can teachers prepare to give a talk at a conference? #eltchat
HanaTicha 11/06/2013 21:04 Hi! I'm happy to be here. #eltchat
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:05 @SueAnnan Hi Sue, & cheers for asking! Not up to full speed yet, but slowly getting there ;-) #eltchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:05 #ELTchat just deciding whether to use iPad or PC for this chat, but the former seems more responsive :)
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:05 @HanaTicha welcome #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:05 @pjgallantry i use a pad for most things apart from #eltchat :-)
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:06 #ELTchat v timely topic for me, as I'm giving a presentation at the English UK Teachers' Conf this Saturday!
SueAnnan 11/06/2013 21:06 i have never given a talk at a conference, so willing to learn what I can #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:06 @pjgallantry Paul you're getting ready for a talk and we have some experienced speakers in our crowd this eve - any insights? #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:06 @SueAnnan gosh haven't you, i would have thought you had #eltchat
SueAnnan 11/06/2013 21:07 @Shaunwilden No just local stuff #eltchat
HanaTicha 11/06/2013 21:07 An interesting topic. I guess many of us have only been participants, not presenters #eltchat
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:07 RT @Marisa_C @theteacherjames @SueAnnan @naomishema @Shaunwilden @pjgallantry Kalispera Kalispera!!! ] & ditto #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:07 @SueAnnan true - have never seen you talk :-( #eltchat why why why
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:07 @Marisa_C @pjgallantry my top tip is team up with @Marisa_C she's such a tinkerer that she does all the work, perfect :-) #eltchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:07 #ELTchat this is the fifth time I've done the gig, and tbh I think I'm getting worse at preps as I go along!....
SueAnnan 11/06/2013 21:08 @Marisa_C outside my comfort zone, I think- or just little to say? #eltchat
theteacherjames 11/06/2013 21:08 I'm just starting to present, so your advice will be very welcome. #ELTchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:08 #ELTchat I think the first thing to consider is the focus of what you want to talk about - what do you REALLY want to say?
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:09 My advice: Talk about what you know, what you believe in, and what you feel passionate about. #eltchat
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:09 RT @pjgallantry: #ELTchat I think the first thing to consider is the focus of what you want to talk about - what do you REALLY want to say?
SueAnnan 11/06/2013 21:09 @theteacherjames yes. that might be the right size to kick off with #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:09 RT @esolcourses: My advice: Talk about what you know, what you believe in, and what you feel passionate about. #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:10 RT @esolcourses: My advice: Talk about what you know, what you believe in, and what you feel passionate about. #eltchat
HanaTicha 11/06/2013 21:10 @esolcourses Bu I've seen some passionate but really confusing presentations..so what else? :-) #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:11 @HanaTicha @esolcourses so make sure you're clear on what you want to say and don't try and so and say too much #eltchat
theteacherjames 11/06/2013 21:11 @SueAnnan Definitely, that was my idea. I wasn't comfortable with the idea of starting at IATEFL, too big! #ELTChat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:11 I don't know that I can give ppl any good tips but one i learnt from @kenwilsonlondon Rehearse, rehearse, rehearse! #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:11 Gosh! I say that to my CELTA trainees about their lessons!!! :-D #eltchat
SueAnnan 11/06/2013 21:11 @theteacherjames well its a definite maybe :-) #eltchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:11 #ELTchat just trying to break down the preps into parts..I *think* you need 1.focus 2.simplicity 3.clarity 4. Empathy....
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:11 @Marisa_C Actually i don't like rehearsing too much it makes it too scripted, though when I first started i did #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:12 @Shaunwilden grrrrrrr #eltchat u are soooo not telling the truth!!!
HanaTicha 11/06/2013 21:12 I've seen some nice team presentations. Does it help to work with sb or is it more difficult? #eltchat
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:12 @HanaTicha Ditto. Which is why I think the 'talk about you know' aspect is important... along with planning and preparation #eltchat
theteacherjames 11/06/2013 21:12 RT @esolcourses: My advice: Talk about what you know, what you believe in, and what you feel passionate about. #eltchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:12 #ELTchat rehearsing is VITAL, especially if you can do it with colleagues
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:13 @Marisa_C about? rehearsing? With you it was different that was a double act needed to know what we were going to say #eltchat
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:13 RT @Shaunwilden @HanaTicha @esolcourses make sure you're clear on what you want to say and don't try and so and say too much #eltchat ] yep
SueAnnan 11/06/2013 21:13 @HanaTicha that's a good question #eltchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:13 @HanaTicha yes, it can. I did a pres with a colleague & it worked v well indeed. We brought diff. Strengths to the pres. #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:14 @HanaTicha I find it more difficult but enjoy it #eltchat
theteacherjames 11/06/2013 21:14 @Marisa_C yes, I've been doing that. What the neighbours must think... ;-) #ELTChat
MicaelaCarey 11/06/2013 21:14 Hi everyone!  Getting here late and catching up... #eltchat
rapple18 11/06/2013 21:14 .@HanaTicha @esolcourses I've seen some passionate + v confusing presentations #eltchat Yes, + if v enthusiastic, orientate audience
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:14 @Shaunwilden @marisa_c I am sure she does! #ELTchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:16 @theteacherjames  fly on the wall!!! #ELTCHAT filter:news
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:16 #ELTchat a presentation should be simple - don't stuff it with too many ideas, and give space for delegates to discuss, cogitate & reflect
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:16 @pjgallantry i have a problem with that - tend to put in too much #eltchat
HanaTicha 11/06/2013 21:17 @rapple18 @esolcourses Yes, I think the key to success is to involve the audience. #eltchat
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:17 RT @Shaunwilden: @HanaTicha I find it more difficult but enjoy it #eltchat ] Ditto! Different challenges, but good to step o/s comfort zone
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:17 @Marisa_C @pjgallantry i think it's a common problem #eltchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:17 @Marisa_C me too! It's a bit like writing a DELTA essay ;) #ELTchat
rapple18 11/06/2013 21:17 @Marisa_C @pjgallantry same ol' chestnut: less is more (how long does it take to learn?!) #eltchat
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:18 MT @HanaTicha:  Yes, I think the key to success is to involve the audience ] True. and also to 'know' & research your audience #eltchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:18 #ELTchat follow the principle of 'less is more', or the whole presentation risks losing focus.
rapple18 11/06/2013 21:18 @HanaTicha @esolcourses @esolcourses involve the audience. #eltchat That's extra: but I always do that within first 5'. Helps me!
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:19 Slightly different point but don't crowd the talk slides with too many words or things to read #eltchat
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:19 RT @Shaunwilden: Slightly different point but don't crowd the talk slides with too many words or things to read #eltchat
rapple18 11/06/2013 21:19 @esolcourses @HanaTicha MT @HanaTicha:  and also to 'know' & research your audience #eltchat indeed, the more you know them, the better
HanaTicha 11/06/2013 21:19 Also, always have plan B. Is presenting actually very different from teaching? #eltchat
MicaelaCarey 11/06/2013 21:20 I've never presented but seen a lot- the best are always the ones who connect with the audience in some way- much like teaching. #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:20 #iatefl has a webinar on line for new presenters #eltchat  @Shaunwilden I think also in the LTSIG no? #ELTCHAT filter:news
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:21 @rapple18 @HanaTicha Yes, good to establish a rapport at the start, and also recap most important points @ end B4 taking Q's #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:22 RT @MicaelaCarey: I've never presented but seen a lot- the best are always the ones who connect with the audience in some way- much like te…
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:22 RT @HanaTicha: Also, always have plan B. Is presenting actually very different from teaching? ] Not that far removed, IMO #eltchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:22 #ELTchat it never ceases to amaze me how many experienced teachers are duff presenters - they go to pieces in a presentation!
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:23 @pjgallantry re content, material or voice etc:? #ELTCHAT
rapple18 11/06/2013 21:23 RT @esolcourses @HanaTicha @rapple18 @HanaTicha + recap most important points @ end B4 taking Q's #eltchat Yes: intro it, say it, recap it!
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:23 @pjgallantry but it is a different,  talking to peers is different to talking to people you know you know more about the topic #eltchat
theteacherjames 11/06/2013 21:23 @HanaTicha I suppose the key difference is I'm not teaching, but trying to offer a new perspective on something already known. #ELTChat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:23 @Marisa_C all the above! #ELTchat
HanaTicha 11/06/2013 21:24 Anyway, some people have the charisma and can talk about anything. I like observing them #eltchat
SueAnnan 11/06/2013 21:25 I've seen really well known people give duff presos #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:25 @Shaunwilden @pjgallantry takes confidence or a great nerve!! #eltchat
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:25 @rapple18 @HanaTicha Absolutely - and make sure you leave enough time for questions. #eltchat
rapple18 11/06/2013 21:26 Disclaimers are always useful at start to keep "those who know more" at bay, +/or encourage safe interaction from them #ELTchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:27 What about your slides? Am tired of all the big names like e.g. Jack Richards, showing tiny tiny fonts and loads of text #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:27 @SueAnnan Well am sure we'd all admit to giving a duff one at some point. I know I have #eltchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:27 @Marisa_C @shaunwilden with enough chutzpah and enough self belief, you can charm the birds from the trees! #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:27 @pjgallantry @Marisa_C yes but charm is one thing, having something worth saying is another :-) #eltchat
SueAnnan 11/06/2013 21:28 @Shaunwilden well I haven't seen you do it:-) but it grates when you hope to see something special #eltchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:28 @Marisa_C again, Less is More. Use just a few words and visuals, and as few slides as possible. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:28 @pjgallantry I would suggest - go for it -  ain't no way of getting good unless u get on and pedal!! #eltchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:28 @Shaunwilden @sueannan yes, plead guilty to that! #ELTchat
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:28 @pjgallantry @Shaunwilden think presenting in front of peers adds an extra level of pressure that some people find daunting... #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:29 @SueAnnan @Shaunwilden I haven't either - he exaggerates a lot today!!! #eltchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:29 @Shaunwilden @marisa_c you'd be amazed at how often I've heard something that sounds fantastic, but doesn't stand scrutiny after #ELTchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:30 RT @CsillaBenn: @Marisa_C some basic slide rules: no smaller font than 24, one slide one idea #eltchat (hashtag!!!!! )
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:30 @Marisa_C @SueAnnan i've been presenting for over ten years and do it on a monthly basis believe me I have had some shockers :-)  #eltchat
JL3001 11/06/2013 21:31 RT @Marisa_C: RT @CsillaBenn: @Marisa_C some basic slide rules: no smaller font than 24, one slide one idea #eltchat (hashtag!!!!! )
SueAnnan 11/06/2013 21:31 @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C I'll take your word for it #eltchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:31 #ELTchat presenting to peers daunting, but this is where empathy is important - they are here to hear you & have CHOSEN to...
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:32 #ELTchat...also, your peers in audience are interested in what you have to say..unlikely they'll stand up & start booing!
rapple18 11/06/2013 21:33 @pjgallantry presenting2peers daunting, but this is where empathy is important: they are here2hear U #ELTchat True: big but best challenge
CsillaBenn 11/06/2013 21:33 @Marisa_C and do not look at your slides, but your audience, so many presenters still do #eltchat (sorry)
theteacherjames 11/06/2013 21:33 RT @rapple18: Disclaimers are always useful at start to keep "those who know more" at bay, +/or encourage safe interaction from them #ELTch…
SueAnnan 11/06/2013 21:34 @ShellTerrell @cybraryman1 enjoy. Would like to be there but taking part in eltchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:34 “@CsillaBenn: @Marisa_C and do not look at your slides, but your audience, so many presenters still do #eltchat (sorry)â€<<true!
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:34 RT @CsillaBenn: @Marisa_C and do not look at your slides, but your audience, so many presenters still do #eltchat > or read out your talk
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:34 @CsillaBenn @Marisa_C Or have them on your phone so you look like you're looking at the audience :-) #eltchat
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:34 @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @SueAnnan IMO, the odd  shocker is par for the course, as long as we learn from mistakes & don't repeat :-) #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:35 @Shaunwilden @CsillaBenn or like u re checking ur SMS's :-D #eltchat or tweets
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:35 #ELTchat have the confidence to look your audience in the face & NEVER EVER rely on your slides to do YOUR job!
CsillaBenn 11/06/2013 21:35 @rapple18 @pjgallantry you should look at it more like a conversation, dialogue #eltchat
SueAnnan 11/06/2013 21:35 @HanaTicha maybe not f2f but more things can go wrong #eltchat
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:35 @HanaTicha oh no, no audience that you can see, it really throws you first time cos you can't read any body language etc #eltchat
theteacherjames 11/06/2013 21:35 And if I catch any of you reading from your slides, I'll slap you with a wet fish... #eltchat
rapple18 11/06/2013 21:36 @HanaTicha I've always wondered if one feels safer when presenting at a webinar than with 'real' audience. #eltchat  MUCH!!
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:36 “@theteacherjames: And if I catch any of you reading from your slides, I'll slap you with a wet fish... #eltchat†< :D
CsillaBenn 11/06/2013 21:36 @HanaTicha real audience is more supportive, but may depend on presenter's personality #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:37 @HanaTicha Am used to both f2f and webinar but prefer to be able to see audience obviously :-) #eltchat
HanaTicha 11/06/2013 21:37 @Shaunwilden No body lang from the audience but your shaking hands and trembling voice? :-) #eltchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:37 #ELTchat you should always prepare your pres with plenty of time to spare, he said with only 72 hours to go....
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:37 @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @SueAnnan Personally, I'd rather see a passionate talk a bit shy of the mark than an on target, safe topic #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:38 @pjgallantry Yikes!!! (no worries - i often change minutes before a talk! ) #eltchat - esp if at a conf and seen sth relevant
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:38 #ELTchat ....actually, only 60 hours.... #eeek
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:39 @esolcourses @shaunwilden @marisa_c @sueannan yes, some of the best presentations are magnificent rants #ELTchat
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:39 RT @Marisa_C: @pjgallantry Yikes!!! (no worries - i often change minutes before a talk! ) #eltchat Ha Ha! not just me, then? ;-)
CsillaBenn 11/06/2013 21:39 @HanaTicha @Shaunwilden you need to be more precise when online#eltchat
SueAnnan 11/06/2013 21:39 @Marisa_C I heard Shaun say that this year :-) #eltchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:40 #ELTchat this presentation is a bit difficult because it will fall between Russell Stannard & Hugh Dellar talking on similar topic
Shaunwilden 11/06/2013 21:40 @SueAnnan @Marisa_C now what did i do :-( #eltchat
SueAnnan 11/06/2013 21:40 @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C you said that she kept changing her part of the talk #eltchat
HanaTicha 11/06/2013 21:41 Any tongue twisters, warm-ups, exercises or the like? #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:42 @HanaTicha breathing exercises good if nervous (advice from iatefl webinar) #eltchat never tried it myself tho
rapple18 11/06/2013 21:42 RT @CsillaBenn: @Marisa_C basic slide rules: font min 24, 1 slide 1 idea #eltchat TRUE. O dear: better revise BESIG talk. N'Night! Thx, all!
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:42 #ELTchat the time of the pres is also important - post-lunch gig is always tricky....
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:42 @Marisa_C @pjgallantry I sometimes change talks in response to the furniture... never mind the audience! ;-) #eltchat
HanaTicha 11/06/2013 21:43 @Marisa_C I suppose a certain amount of adrenalin helps. From my exp, being too relaxed can spoil any performance #eltchat
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:45 @pjgallantry The best advice I can give 4 that one is disregard the slot & any similar talks - & just give it your best shot :-) #ELTchat
theteacherjames 11/06/2013 21:45 I think the best prep I've done is to watch a lot of presentations, of varying quality, & learn from them. I've seen what works. #eltchat
pjgallantry 11/06/2013 21:46 #ELTchat a blog post about a previous presentation/conference experience...http://t.co/qNXPRtmHLA
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:46 I found this on the iatefl website http://t.co/47I7AEO39G but not the link to the webinar #eltchat
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:46 MT @theteacherjames: I think the best prep is watch a lot of presentations & learn from them. I've seen what works... ] Gr8 point.. #eltchat
CsillaBenn 11/06/2013 21:47 @HanaTicha @Marisa_C Eat an apple before you start! You will sound better #eltchat
HanaTicha 11/06/2013 21:48 @cechinda @Marisa_C That's obvious :-) #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:48 @CsillaBenn @HanaTicha interesting  How so? #eltchat
theteacherjames 11/06/2013 21:49 I used to teach presentations to bus sts & it was really useful. Not sure who learned more, me or them! #ELTchat
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:50 @theteacherjames watching talks by people in other fields, too (such as TED talks) helps. Good presentation skills are universal! #eltchat
SueAnnan 11/06/2013 21:51 @esolcourses @theteacherjames great idea. I really rate the TED talks for presentation skills #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:51 RT @esolcourses:  watching talks by people in other fields, too (such as TED talks) helps. Good presentation skills are universal! #eltchat
sattarkadhim 11/06/2013 21:51 RT @Marisa_C: RT @esolcourses:  watching talks by people in other fields, too (such as TED talks) helps. Good presentation skills are unive…
HanaTicha 11/06/2013 21:52 Did mention the audience?  It's vital! Bored and uninterested audience can spoil the best presentation #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:52 give your talk to the wall #eltchat good resonator
CsillaBenn 11/06/2013 21:52 @theteacherjames @HanaTicha @Marisa_C It's a stage technique used by actors #eltchat presenting is after all acting
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:53 what I just said sounded like a Shirley Valentine scene :-D #eltchat
CsillaBenn 11/06/2013 21:53 @HanaTicha but there is no presentation without audience, so better keep them with us #eltchat
esolcourses 11/06/2013 21:54 @Marisa_C Ha Ha! You beat me to the punch there :-D #eltchat
CsillaBenn 11/06/2013 21:54 @Marisa_C Better, in front of a mirror #eltchat
stephenburrows 11/06/2013 21:54 RT @Marisa_C: What about your slides? Am tired of all the big names like e.g. Jack Richards, showing tiny tiny fonts and loads of text #el…
cechinda 11/06/2013 21:54 @CsillaBenn @theteacherjames @HanaTicha @Marisa_C didn´t know that, I´ll definitely try it #eltchat
theteacherjames 11/06/2013 21:56 @esolcourses yes, absolutely. Skills required for good presenting are multidisciplinary. #ELTChat
sattarkadhim 11/06/2013 21:56 RT @Marisa_C: what I just said sounded like a Shirley Valentine scene :-D #eltchat
theteacherjames 11/06/2013 21:56 @SueAnnan Yes, it's a great resource. I've learned from many of them. #ELTchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:57 Funny youtube vid about How NOT to do it http://t.co/1GjX6bWAXs #eltchat a classic we use for BE lessons on presentations
theteacherjames 11/06/2013 21:57 @CsillaBenn @HanaTicha @Marisa_C hmm, just as with teaching, I'm not comfortable with describing it as acting. I'm always being me. #ELTChat
CsillaBenn 11/06/2013 21:58 @nancyduarte Resonate and Slideology, excellent resource books for preparing presentations #eltchat
theteacherjames 11/06/2013 21:58 @CsillaBenn @HanaTicha @Marisa_C but I do love apples! :-) #ELTChat
SueAnnan 11/06/2013 21:58 RT @evanfrendo: Preview of Helen Bicknell's #BESIG Conf talk - made me laugh out loud http://t.co/JpPqlN7irb #eltchat
theteacherjames 11/06/2013 21:58 RT @HanaTicha: Did mention the audience?  It's vital! Bored and uninterested audience can spoil the best presentation #eltchat
theteacherjames 11/06/2013 21:59 @Marisa_C Yes, that's a good one! #ELTchat
HanaTicha 11/06/2013 21:59 @CsillaBenn So why not look for the right audience if there is the choice. One doesn't have to present everywhere after all #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 21:59 Lots of videos on YouTube on good presentation skills - search and learn #eltchat
SueAnnan 11/06/2013 22:00 thanks everyone. lots of interesting things to think about. #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 22:01 here is one http://t.co/1GjX6bWAXs #eltchat
CsillaBenn 11/06/2013 22:02 @HanaTicha I agree. We also choose the audience. When you prepare, you should see your audience with your mind's eye #eltchat
Marisa_C 11/06/2013 22:02 @SueAnnan thanks for summaries today Sue - you Golden Medal #ELTchat Blogger you!!!!!
esolcourses 11/06/2013 22:03 Thanks for a really interesting and inspiring #eltchat, everyone! Look forward to catching yr talks on the conference circuit sometime soon!

 

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