| username |
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| Palgrave_Ling |
10/30/2013 12:08:24 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Hello and welcome to #ELTchat today - we are dedicating both today's editions to commemorate Dave Willis and celebrate his work¶ |
| mariacolussa |
10/30/2013 10:08:47 AM |
@Marisa_C Good morning from Argentina #eltchat ! |
| HanaTicha |
10/30/2013 1:09:31 PM |
Hello. Ready to listen ... #eltchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:09:34 PM |
good afternoon #eltchat |
| nakanotim |
10/30/2013 9:10:42 PM |
MT @worldteacher: Top tips for classroom management http://t.co/EdLA0lVCXP an #eltchat summary |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:10:50 PM |
@Marisa_C you're never alone on twitter.... #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:10:52 PM |
@HanaTicha & @MrChrisJWilson welcome to this edition of #ELTchat - waiting for @Shaunwilden |
| mary28sou |
10/30/2013 1:11:06 PM |
#eltchat I believe the beauty of TBL is its simplicity and the feeling Ss get from successful completion |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 1:11:42 PM |
hat you waiting for @Marisa_C I said afternoon ages ago #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:12:07 PM |
Was wondering if you have all read @leoselivan 's great tribute post on Dave Willis and his contributions to ELT #ELTchat |
| BobK99 |
10/30/2013 12:12:10 PM |
Apols for late arr. to #eltchat - net upgrade in progress - so my link may be a bit dodgy. |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 1:12:52 PM |
RT @mary28sou: #eltchat I believe the beauty of TBL is its simplicity and the feeling Ss get from successful completion |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:12:57 PM |
@Marisa_C @leoselivan I did, really great blog post which highlighted how much we owe to David #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:13:03 PM |
@BobK99 Hey Bob seems to be the story have you tried twubs ? #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
10/30/2013 12:13:12 PM |
@mary28sou Not sure it is the simplicity but motivation and authenticity that are important #eltchat |
| HanaTicha |
10/30/2013 1:13:12 PM |
@mary28sou Agree, I believe one learns by doing much more than via traditional instruction #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:13:18 PM |
RT @MrChrisJWilson: @Marisa_C @leoselivan I did, really great blog post which highlighted how much we owe to David #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
10/30/2013 1:13:24 PM |
#eltchat yes read and watched the video but no time yet to get into links or lexical approach material |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 1:13:26 PM |
@Marisa_C @leoselivan maybe share the link again for people #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
10/30/2013 9:13:57 AM |
@Marisa_C thanks for the mention.sorry i cant join. Just about to go into class. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:14:19 PM |
@Shaunwilden @leoselivan Happy to here it is http://t.co/8NugrkBCQl "We are lexically indebted to him" #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:14:54 PM |
@leoselivan we'll talk behind ur back Leo thanks for that post :-) have a great class #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:15:46 PM |
So how many of you familiar with and using TBL ? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 1:16:34 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Me!!! Changed me as a teacher when I first came cross it #eltchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:16:37 PM |
I've used it a few times. I've found that the type of task is highly important #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:16:43 PM |
@Marisa_C - purist TBL, coursebook TBL or teacher adapted TBL? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:16:55 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Me!!! Changed me as a teacher when I first came across it> How Shaun? #eltchat |
| HanaTicha |
10/30/2013 1:17:40 PM |
@Marisa_C I believe I've always asked my students to do meaningful tasks using the target language #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:17:40 PM |
@teflgeek any versions David #eltchat - how much do you know that remains in its "pure" form? |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 1:17:54 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Well i started out very much PPP and had no real TD opportunities then I came across the TBL framework #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:19:27 PM |
@Marisa_C I tend to do something more closely approximating to TBPPP #eltchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:20:31 PM |
The biggest issue I've found with TBL is the second attempt at the task. Students (esp. teenager) seem to roll eyes & lack motive #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:20:32 PM |
TBL is not just about meaningful tasks but abt following a diff order to PPP - how do YOU implement that order? #ELTchat |
| HanaTicha |
10/30/2013 1:20:39 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C But you haven't abandoned PPP completely, have you? It can be useful too. #eltchat |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:21:27 PM |
#ELTchat afternoon all |
| JoHart |
10/30/2013 8:21:30 PM |
#ELTchat from a literacy perspective with adults we try to be TB & use students' own experience/needs |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:21:30 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson yes - the trouble of coming up with a suitably similar yet different task. is it because SS are product focused? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:21:32 PM |
@teflgeek TBL accepts a presentation (hence ppp withn tbl) within task cycle #eltchat - if needed |
| michaelegriffin |
10/30/2013 9:22:20 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson really?Even with a new partner and a slight tweak and a bit of input or correction? #ELTchat V. different from my experience |
| PatrickAndrews |
10/30/2013 12:22:23 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson Presumably there needs to be a change and there can be tinkering to make it motivating #eltchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:22:28 PM |
@teflgeek Perhaps it's not an awareness of deficiencies in first draft as well? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:22:37 PM |
RT @HanaTicha: @Shaunwilden But you haven't abandoned PPP completely, have you? It can be useful too. #eltchat > Can be bt not on its own |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:23:04 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson often a problem with spoken output which is very ephemeral #eltchat |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:23:19 PM |
#ELTchat has anyone tried doing TBL in a blended learning context? |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:23:31 PM |
@JoHart @michaelegriffin @PatrickAndrews @pjgallantry @MrChrisJWilson hi and welcome to u #ELTchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:23:38 PM |
@michaelegriffin I probably use TBL more for writing tasks where changing partner doesn't necessarily help IME #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
10/30/2013 12:23:41 PM |
@teflgeek @MrChrisJWilson Is that not what normal communication involves - we communicate for a product through a process, don't we?#eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 1:23:43 PM |
@HanaTicha @Marisa_C yes it can but the whole structure is not for me, though the stages themselves have use #eltchat |
| JoHart |
10/30/2013 8:23:53 PM |
@teflgeek @MrChrisJWilson use what the stdnts want to achieve as basis for task ? #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:24:04 PM |
@pjgallantry I think TBL lends itself very very to an online environment #eltchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:24:06 PM |
@PatrickAndrews Can you suggest some types of tinkers? #eltchat |
| HanaTicha |
10/30/2013 1:24:21 PM |
@pjgallantry I think I have. Ss making their own video + Facebook group assigned for discussing their steps #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:24:33 PM |
@pjgallantry sorry - "very well" #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:24:42 PM |
@pjgallantry yes have tried and it works (in a blended learning envir) #ELTchat - why not? If you can have groups in breakout rooms |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:24:47 PM |
@PatrickAndrews @teflgeek Not always. Speaking can be for social bonding purposes as well as for finding out information #eltchat |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:24:58 PM |
@teflgeek very very? :D #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
10/30/2013 12:25:03 PM |
@pjgallantry It would seem that most distance learning materials are task based #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
10/30/2013 1:25:04 PM |
#eltchat many similarities between TBL and student based or project-based, nowadays especially in coursebooks not easy to differentiate |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:25:54 PM |
#ELTchat I've experimented with a TBL-type syllabus using Moodle and ESOL Students |
| JoHart |
10/30/2013 8:25:57 PM |
@Marisa_C @michaelegriffin @PatrickAndrews @pjgallantry @MrChrisJWilson Hi Mariisa & all think TZ changed - nice to be with u all #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:26:01 PM |
@PatrickAndrews @MrChrisJWilson transactional vs interactional communication - might always be a purpose but not always a product. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:26:04 PM |
@PatrickAndrews @pjgallantry i'm not so sure abt that - may be task focused but not tbl focused ? anyone has similar or diff view? #ELTchat |
| mary28sou |
10/30/2013 1:26:05 PM |
#eltchat oh I meant student-centered learning |
| PatrickAndrews |
10/30/2013 12:26:13 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson @teflgeek Yes but is there not a product there (creating a good atmosphere)? #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
10/30/2013 9:26:59 PM |
#ELTchat @MrChrisJWilson I see (and sorry if I sounded critical or know it all-ish) I think you are right about Ss seeing purpose of it. |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:27:40 PM |
@pjgallantry interested to hear the moodle report -easier to implement in synchronous environment in real time seems to me #eltchat or not? |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:27:40 PM |
@michaelegriffin Not at all. It's a problem I've faced (not always but a lot) and I'd like help! :) #eltchat |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:27:46 PM |
@Marisa_C @patrickandrews agree- BL is often about the task, but not the cycle #eltchat |
| HanaTicha |
10/30/2013 1:28:10 PM |
@Marisa_C @PatrickAndrews @pjgallantry I would agree. If there is a product/outcome then yes #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 1:28:15 PM |
@Marisa_C @pjgallantry Yes me too #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:28:43 PM |
@PatrickAndrews @MrChrisJWilson I meant more that SS focus on correct answers than the developmental process #eltchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:28:52 PM |
@PatrickAndrews @teflgeek in that case writing a letter is communicating for a purpose. The purpose of making a letter #eltchat |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:29:07 PM |
@Marisa_C depends how you set up the lessons and how tech-savvy the sts are as well #eltchat |
| mary28sou |
10/30/2013 1:29:17 PM |
@Marisa_C #eltchat My usual order is set up a task and let Ss choose the language of execution, then I monitor and suggest more language |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:29:25 PM |
So seems that for TBL to be in action we need some sort of authentic and challenging task to begin with and collaboration #ELTchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
10/30/2013 12:29:39 PM |
@Marisa_C @pjgallantry Some online courses like the OU's EAP course have a task based focus. #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
10/30/2013 9:30:02 PM |
Should you be interested here is a write up on my fav experience with TBL http://t.co/TNyw38SUOV#ELTchat #KELTchat #DNT |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:30:06 PM |
@PatrickAndrews @teflgeek of course transactional and interactional overlap and is a false dichotomy #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:30:08 PM |
@mary28sou which is how TBL can accept and encompass other methods e.g. dogme? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:30:29 PM |
RT @MrChrisJWilson: @PatrickAndrews @teflgeek of course transactional and interactional overlap and is a false dichotomy #eltchat >agree |
| PatrickAndrews |
10/30/2013 12:30:43 PM |
@Marisa_C @pjgallantry Learners work towards a task and look at how other learners have done tasks in the past - seems authentic #eltchat |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:31:03 PM |
#ELTchat does TBL work better in a NES environment than NNES? Thinking about 'authentic' challenges ss really face in life? |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:31:04 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson but is convenient for exam prep teachers #ELTchat |
| michaelegriffin |
10/30/2013 9:31:14 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson For me, when Ss hv seen that what they have produced is ok but could be better they tend to seem happy to try again #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:31:49 PM |
@PatrickAndrews I think tho at some point they need to see how an L1 user would perform same task not other learners #eltchat no? |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 1:31:58 PM |
@Marisa_C @MrChrisJWilson Why wouldn’t it be? #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:32:04 PM |
@Marisa_C @MrChrisJWilson @PatrickAndrews points on a continuum between the two #eltchat. Exam teachers notwithstanding... |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:32:05 PM |
@michaelegriffin The thing I've found is they (teenagers usually) cross out the incorrect words/sentences and then write over #eltchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:32:47 PM |
@michaelegriffin They don't seem to see the point in completely redoing it even if the topic is changed (speaking seems different) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:32:48 PM |
@mary28sou goes withous saying #eltchat - tbl fits in well with the lexical approach model of teaching too |
| PatrickAndrews |
10/30/2013 12:33:01 PM |
@Marisa_C Other learners can include L1 speakers #eltchat |
| sandrasilvav |
10/30/2013 12:33:42 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: TBL is not just about meaningful tasks but abt following a diff order to PPP - how do YOU implement that order? #ELTchat |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:33:49 PM |
#ELTchat one thing to relate BL to TBL is using the Flipped Class model - that way task largely done in class, allowing for differentiation |
| PatrickAndrews |
10/30/2013 12:34:05 PM |
@Marisa_C Seems to be quite a trend in EAP to look at examples of student work (eg corpus of learner English) #eltchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:34:56 PM |
@teflgeek@PatrickAndrews my point is you can label the most transactional interaction as interactional and vice versa if you want #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
10/30/2013 9:35:46 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson I can see what you mean. Hmm. I think I am not much help on this one in that case. :) #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 1:35:46 PM |
@pjgallantry So you’re saying flipped class is the new TBL? #eltchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:35:58 PM |
@teflgeek @PatrickAndrews but there does seem to be a significant difference in motivation for a repetition of a task between t' 2 #eltchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:36:31 PM |
@JoHart @michaelegriffin what if the process is the focus and not the product, something which TBL is good for #eltchat |
| bhrbahar |
10/30/2013 9:36:40 AM |
RT @Marisa_C: #ELTchat Who is ready to join our conversation today? If you can't join now, join us this evening/later at 21p.m. GMT+2 |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:37:54 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson @PatrickAndrews maybe the problem is purpose, or they don't think they can improve #eltchat |
| JoHart |
10/30/2013 8:38:13 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson @michaelegriffin this maybe diff between ELT & lit (my field) as process of edit/re-use/re-draft IS process for us #ELTchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:38:45 PM |
@teflgeek @PatrickAndrews or it's "good enough" I think motivation is key for TBL #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
10/30/2013 12:38:51 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson @teflgeek I can see this is very likely. Perhaps the next task is assessed? #eltchat |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:39:07 PM |
@Shaunwilden not quite, but it does fit the model of TBL well. tends to lead to a quite cyclical module design when used with TBL #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:39:45 PM |
@mariacolussa so teacher's role different - task creates a need for lang & T or other resource there to supply #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:40:31 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson @PatrickAndrews or they just don't have a realistic idea of their own performance - maybe record them? #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:40:45 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson @PatrickAndrews get them to assess themselves? #eltchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:41:07 PM |
@PatrickAndrews @teflgeek possible but my experience is they just submit the last piece with some words/sentences crossed out #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
10/30/2013 9:41:24 PM |
MT @MrChrisJWilson I think (correct me if I'm wrong) strict TBL is a complete redoing? #eltchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:41:26 PM |
RT @mariacolussa: @MrChrisJWilson I often tell them THIS is real life, the teacher won't always be there for you. #eltchat |
| fionaljp |
10/30/2013 12:41:43 PM |
RT @worldteacher: Just blogged: Top tips for classroom management http://t.co/VTXsScGcAS an #eltchat summary |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:42:05 PM |
TBL diff from process model - TBL diagnostic where process oriented is support and supply focused #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 1:42:15 PM |
@pjgallantry Yes i can see that the cyclical nature of both #eltchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:42:35 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: TBL diff from process model - TBL diagnostic where process oriented is support and supply focused #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 1:42:41 PM |
RT @MrChrisJWilson: RT @mariacolussa: @MrChrisJWilson I often tell them THIS is real life, the teacher won't always be there for you. #eltc… |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:43:18 PM |
#ELTchat do you think that the syllabus should be imposed or negotiated before beginning a TBL-based course? |
| HanaTicha |
10/30/2013 1:44:01 PM |
@Shaunwilden @pjgallantry But isn't flipped class just a way of trad instruction aimed at gaining more time for tasks in classes? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:44:10 PM |
@pjgallantry ideally the syllabus should be a negotiated one - cannot be predetermined by definition #eltchat syllabus of topics OK |
| mary28sou |
10/30/2013 1:44:28 PM |
#eltchat do you see parallels between TBL and teaching English as a lingua franca? |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:44:44 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson @PatrickAndrews get them to fdbk on content: 3things I liked, 3 I didn't understand 3 important mistakes I found #eltchat |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:44:45 PM |
@Shaunwilden as part of DELTA mod 3, I designed a BL course for ESOL sts that used TBL as core. V interesting how it came out. #ELTchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:44:58 PM |
@mary28sou I'm guessing you do, so can you make a case? #eltchat |
| JoHart |
10/30/2013 8:45:24 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson @michaelegriffin for me it seems that complete redo moreTTT than TBL - may be diff in interp as I am Lit not EFL #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:45:35 PM |
@mary28sou parallels btn LA (lexical approach) yes - ELF does not have a concrete methodology #eltchat a description of lang only |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:45:51 PM |
@pjgallantry doesn't that depend on factors beyond the control of the T and SS? #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
10/30/2013 9:45:56 PM |
RT @mariacolussa I like to think that what we do is like a cycle #ELTchat |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:46:09 PM |
@HanaTicha @shaunwilden not necessarily. Eg sts could be given models & tasks to work on outside class, individually or as groups #ELTchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:46:21 PM |
@JoHart @michaelegriffin I think @Marisa_C point is the key difference there. prescriptive language point = ttt diagnostic = TBL #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 1:46:36 PM |
@HanaTicha @pjgallantry I wouldn’t say just that to be honest it can be tasks outside class, researching and so on #eltchat |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:46:44 PM |
“@Marisa_C: ideally the syllabus should be a negotiated one - cannot be predetermined by definition #eltchat syllabus of topics OK”<agree |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:46:44 PM |
@JoHart but usually it's a combo of both! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:47:21 PM |
TBL as defined byN.S. Prabhu who also a key figure in this, uses a 'procedural syllabus' a syllabus of tasks #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 1:47:24 PM |
@pjgallantry Sounds interesting, so the tBL core happen online or f2f or both? #eltchat |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:47:40 PM |
@teflgeek depends his flexible your institution is & expectations of learning from sts! :D #ELTchat |
| HanaTicha |
10/30/2013 1:48:09 PM |
@pjgallantry @shaunwilden I see. What is the diff between BL and flipped class then? I's say BL is an umbrella term, right?#eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 1:49:09 PM |
@HanaTicha @pjgallantry Probably best left for another chat BL can be many things :-) #eltchat |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:49:46 PM |
@Shaunwilden well,it's all about synchronous & non-synchronous tasks, which can be in any environment.Depends also on tools we use #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:49:55 PM |
@pjgallantry or if you're selling tailored or off-the-peg? TBL is fine in both, but the syllabus will depend. #eltchat |
| HanaTicha |
10/30/2013 1:51:29 PM |
@Shaunwilden @pjgallantry Ok then. I thought it'd be relevant if we kept it in the context of TB .... #eltchat |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:51:44 PM |
@HanaTicha @shaunwilden in nutshell: flipped learning is 'Input Outside, Output Inside' i.e. Sts produce work in class #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:52:03 PM |
RT @pjgallantry: @HanaTicha @shaunwilden in nutshell: flipped learning is 'Input Outside, Output Inside' i.e. Sts produce work in class #el… |
| michaelegriffin |
10/30/2013 9:52:44 PM |
Heres a link regarding #theDword (which I'd not dare call a method) + #TBL that might be of interest to #ELTchat-ers http://t.co/Gr6LTGrije |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:53:37 PM |
@teflgeek I think TBL is largely tailored anyway because of its nature. Hard to cram a Coursebook into a TBL-sized niche! #ELTchat |
| MeghanBeler |
10/30/2013 2:54:01 PM |
Brains, Brains, Brains! How the Mind of a Middle Schooler Works http://t.co/pN6qtsC9Z6 via @edutopia #edchat #eltchat #teaching |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:54:53 PM |
@pjgallantry @teflgeek there is def mats design in TBL - see many good ESP and BE materials follow this thinking - #ELTchat |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:55:07 PM |
#ELTchat I'll be touching on TBL in reference to Flipped & BL at the English UK Teachers' Conference on the 9th #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:55:25 PM |
For what it's worth - my thoughts on TBL & PPP - a fusion methodology: http://t.co/v1zmCFekKs #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 1:55:41 PM |
@pjgallantry Oo where’s that then? #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 1:55:45 PM |
RT @teflgeek: For what it's worth - my thoughts on TBL & PPP - a fusion methodology: http://t.co/v1zmCFekKs #eltchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
10/30/2013 2:56:07 PM |
man we've barely discussed The lexical syllabus...[sigh] guess I'll have to try and get back for the evening #eltchat then |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:56:13 PM |
@Marisa_C @teflgeek wouldn't dispute that at all! #ELTchat |
| michaelegriffin |
10/30/2013 9:56:27 PM |
@pjgallantry @teflgeek Also hard to cram TBL into a coursebook, right? Best attempt I've seen: http://t.co/jhgRqix3nG #ELTchat |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:56:50 PM |
@Shaunwilden in London #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 1:57:24 PM |
@pjgallantry Helpful :-) #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 12:57:27 PM |
@Marisa_C @pjgallantry absolutely - but does that put TBL out of reach for busy teachers constrained by coursebooks? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:57:33 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: Heres a link re #TBL vs content based & Dogme that might be of interest to #ELTchat http://t.co/tTrYX2ZggJ |
| BobK99 |
10/30/2013 12:58:11 PM |
@michaelegriffin Thanks for the ST link Mike.One for later! #eltchat ['http://t.co/h0mlitekk3'] :-) |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 2:58:29 PM |
@teflgeek @pjgallantry not really - often means reversing order of things in coursebook and providing more challenge #ELTchat |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 12:59:27 PM |
@Shaunwilden :) Prospero House, Borough High St, From 9.00 to 19.00 look at the English UK site #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 2:00:03 PM |
Don’t forget we’ll be continuing this topic in the later #eltchat as well |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 3:00:03 PM |
Barely scratched the surface of Dave Willis' s work may be we could resume abt lexical studies & approach later? #ELTchat |
| BobK99 |
10/30/2013 1:00:16 PM |
Thanks all for #eltchat - gotta go. |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 2:00:27 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Barely scratched the surface of Dave Willis' s work may be we could resume abt lexical studies & approach later? #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
10/30/2013 1:00:55 PM |
May make it to #eltchat later - but if not see you all next time! Thanks all. |
| pjgallantry |
10/30/2013 1:00:58 PM |
@Shaunwilden http://t.co/XL1Zikpf9b#ELTchat |
| michaelegriffin |
10/30/2013 10:01:29 PM |
Hi @mariacolussa I think Widgets is a great, interesting and important book. In fact here is my review of it http://t.co/lkGEq4VgSR #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/30/2013 3:01:30 PM |
Thank you all for joining this #ELTchat - can we ask for a summary writer please? |
| Shaunwilden |
10/30/2013 2:01:42 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Thank you all for joining this #ELTchat - can we ask for a summary writer please? |
| mariacolussa |
10/30/2013 11:03:04 AM |
@Marisa_C As usual amazing how fast time flies here! #eltchat ! |
| ELTchat |
10/30/2013 2:03:13 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Thank you all for joining this #ELTchat - can we ask for a summary writer please? |
| michaelegriffin |
10/30/2013 10:03:27 PM |
#ELTChat Thanks all for the chat and esp to moderators. Perfect timing with my battery dying and needing to go home! |
| HanaTicha |
10/30/2013 2:05:58 PM |
An interesting topic. I've learned a lot, s usual. Thanks. #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
10/30/2013 10:06:05 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @michaelegriffin: Heres a link re #TBL vs content based & Dogme that might be of interest to #ELTchat http://t.co/tTrYX… |
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