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Class Management Top Tips

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This is the transcript of #eltchat on 23.10.2013 at 12 p.m. UK time Class Management Top Tips.xlsx

 

username utc date status
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:00 About to start #Eltchat - we will be sharing best practices on class management - please only tweets relevant to our topic with our hashtag
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:00 RT @Marisa_C: About to start #Eltchat - we will be sharing best practices on class management - please only tweets relevant to our topic wi…
esolcourses 10/23/2013 11:04 RT @Marisa_C: About to start #Eltchat - we will be sharing best practices on class management - please only tweets relevant to our topic wi…
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:05 Anyone here to share top tips about class management? Hello? #ELTchat
touqo 10/23/2013 11:07 RT @Marisa_C: About to start #Eltchat - we will be sharing best practices on class management - please only tweets relevant to our topic wi…
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:08 #eltchat Hello everyone. Love this topic and am looking forward to a great chat.
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:08 http://t.co/uEL7xNHamg  for those with tweetdeck issues - moi aussi #ELTchat
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:09 @OUPELTGlobal Welcome #eltchat - hope not just u n me :-D but we'll manage ...
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:10 #eltchat I have some ideas but was hoping others would start.
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:12 #eltchat I think the first 10 minutes of a class are crucial.
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:12 @OUPELTGlobal  #eltchat We'll wait for a few minutes then - tardiness our first topic? :-D
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:13 RT @OUPELTGlobal #eltchat I think the first 10 minutes of a class are crucial.> How so? Set the tone? Motivate?
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:13 #eltchat OK, I'm on twubs - thanks for the heads up @Marisa_C!!
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:14 Am on http://t.co/eMocmdibBk #eltchat too cheers Andrea
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:14 #eltchat Agree that beginning is important - always make sure I'm in class before sts.
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:14 #eltchat For me it sets the tone and helps the students transition to an English class from their L1
cathmmadrid 10/23/2013 11:14 @OUPELTGlobal agreed! I nearly always begin with a game to recycle language from previous class #eltchat
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:15 @OUPELTGlobal Agree - with kids' classes I like to use the 'password on entry' system as they come into class.  #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:15 #eltchat Yes, I think recycling is important - gives students confidence.
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:16 @worldteacher Cd u explain 'password on entry'  for us pls? #eltchat
teflgeek 10/23/2013 11:17 Hi all #ELTChat bit late owing to tweetdeck crapness
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:17 #eltchat What about where students sit? Do you allow them to keep the same seats every lesson?
touqo 10/23/2013 11:17 @Marisa_C @OUPELTGlobal like rock bands? Play 2nd best song first -> get audience motivated. The best song last -> they come back. #eltchat
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:17 @teflgeek use twubs David here is the link http://t.co/eMocmdibBk #eltchat lags a wee bit but more stable
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:18 @worldteacher @OUPELTGlobal Please tell us the password #eltchat
cathmmadrid 10/23/2013 11:18 #eltchat Last 5 or 10 minutes important too, good to 'end on a high'
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:18 @Marisa_C Usually a word or phrase from the last lesson that sts have to say to be 'allowed' into class. Could also be a q & a.  #eltchat
teflgeek 10/23/2013 11:18 @Marisa_C #eltchat using plume on the tablet....
teflgeek 10/23/2013 11:19 @worldteacher #eltchat they sit where they want, but i move them around a lot during class
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:19 @cathmmadrid #eltchat would that work for teens too?
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:19 So looks like good class management not just abt control and discipline but abt engagement & motivation too - end results of #ELTchat
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:19 I just became a member of the #eltchat Twub. For live tweets, photos, videos and more, check out http://t.co/ECjRXk6brG
cathmmadrid 10/23/2013 11:20 @touqo Yes, best song last! #eltchat
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:21 @OUPELTGlobal Get them early - set the tone - even first days of a course crucial for CM #ELTchat
cathmmadrid 10/23/2013 11:22 @OUPELTGlobal I think for everyone, students leave with a real sense of what they've learnt during the lesson #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:22 @Marisa_C #eltchat Yes, students will rise to your expectations and it's good to set them early
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:23 RT @Marisa_C: @OUPELTGlobal Get them early - set the tone - even first days of a course crucial for CM #ELTchat
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:23 @Marisa_C Agreed - important to set classroom rules at the start - get sts to come up with them - class contract.  #eltchat
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:25 @worldteacher Like contracts :-)- can be written with Ss - T has contractual obligations too: to teach motivating lessons #eltchat
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:25 @Marisa_C Can you see this? #eltchat
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:25 #eltchat I usually have a 2-part contract that everyone signs up to. The sts will .... The teacher will .... Everyone knows what's expected
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:25 @Shaunwilden yes saw this one #eltchat but first one for some time
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:26 @Marisa_C I sent you three DMS, did you see those? #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:26 @worldteacher #eltchat Yes, and then you can use it to reinforce good behaviour
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:26 @Marisa_C Absolutely!!  Important to have clear goals, too - for the course & for each lesson, so sts know what they should achieve #eltchat
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:27 @worldteacher I think having both the teacher and sts agreeing to the contracts is imp #eltchat
touqo 10/23/2013 11:27 In corporate life there is a distinction between management and leadership. Any resonance with class management? #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:27 #eltchat Is CM the same for different age groups?
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:27 @OUPELTGlobal Yes, it's a good reminder as the course goes on - leave on display to be referred to. #eltchat
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:27 RT @OUPELTGlobal: #eltchat Is CM the same for different age groups? > Good question
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:28 RT @Marisa_C: RT @OUPELTGlobal: #eltchat Is CM the same for different age groups? > hmm fundamentally yes?
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:28 @touqo I guess so - I often ask Ts to think of a good CEO or leader and think of THEIR qualities - what can we learn from them #ELTchat
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:29 @OUPELTGlobal I think basic principles are the same, but need to adapt methods used for different ages. #eltchat
teflgeek 10/23/2013 11:30 @OUPELTGlobal #eltchat on a basic level -yes. Devil's in the details......
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:30 I think YLs expect a firmer hand from the T - older Ss can contribute to rules and seek/accept choice #ELTchat
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:30 @touqo I think in our profession leadership and management go together - can't have one without the other. #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:30 @Marisa_C #eltchat  @touqo I like this idea of using a leader as an example, especially for teens who usually have their "idols".
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:30 @Marisa_C Though I think some adults prefer a firmer teacher #eltchat
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:31 @OUPELTGlobal @touqo good leaders brief, support, monitor, encourage, reward, intervene when necessary etc. all gd CM skills  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:31 @Shaunwilden true not all tho #eltchat
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:32 @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Agree - many of my adult sts take on childlike behaviour when they go back in the classroom after time away! #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:33 #eltchat CM can also teach/develop good learning skills for all ages.
teflgeek 10/23/2013 11:33 @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C #eltchat do they? Or do they just expect you to conform to stereotype?
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:33 #eltchat How much does good CM affect student performance and results?
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:34 @teflgeek @Marisa_C They do, I usually discuss this is my first lessons with them #eltchat
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:35 I had fun doing this Pecha Kucha - the flip side of good CM http://t.co/MoRMBQukIb #eltchat - a while ago now
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:36 RT @worldteacher: #eltchat How much does good CM affect student performance and results? > Hugely I believe - gd CM inspires confidence in T
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:36 @OUPELTGlobal I agree - I think poor CM lets students down.  Some even fail because of it.  #eltchat
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:37 @worldteacher @OUPELTGlobal Yes i agree CM is vital for success #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:37 @Marisa_C #eltchat  @worldteacher I agree, confidence is important when learning a new language, especially for adults.
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:39 #eltchat I have the impression that most teachers don't give CM the importance it deserves. Has that been your experience?
teflgeek 10/23/2013 11:39 Good CM sets the boundaries on how the learning happens.  Bad CM takes up all the learning time. #eltchat
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:39 @OUPELTGlobal Agreed, I see it on dip courses all the time, they think they know it and often do it appallingly #eltchat
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:39 #eltchat My own research suggests this as a top quality with adult Ss especially #ELTchat
teflgeek 10/23/2013 11:40 @OUPELTGlobal For me it's been an evolutionary process.  my CM has changed a lot over the years! #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:41 #eltchat moving from the British Council to a mainstream made me aware of the importance of CM. It became essential.
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:41 @OUPELTGlobal In observing Ts, I often find that they haven't even thought about CM when planning their lessons! #eltchat
cathmmadrid 10/23/2013 11:41 @OUPELTGlobal @worldteacher @Marisa_C I agree re confidence, and CM also includes monitoring, obvious to students if not being done #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:42 #eltchat we've mentioned contracts, any other "tricks" for making CM a part of the class?
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:43 Good CM takes time to polish - suggestion is 2-3 years in a novice T - shows its complexity doesn't it #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:44 RT @Marisa_C: Good CM takes time to polish - suggestion is 2-3 years in a novice T - shows its complexity doesn't it #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:45 @OUPELTGlobal With YL its inbuilt into class routines isn’t it? #eltchat
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:45 @OUPELTGlobal One of the best Ts I've ever seen had her CM down to a series of small gestures & facial expressions - joy to watch! #eltchat
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:45 @OUPELTGlobal a response to a Wanted Ad for an ideal S-Ss write back & convince me they have all the qualities - make promises too #ELTchat
digitalpedpet 10/23/2013 11:46 What would you do with a bad teacher? http://t.co/NL7EFJDne6 #ELTchat
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:46 @Shaunwilden #eltchat I think routines are important for all ages. It communicates what is expected of students and gives them confidence.
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:46 #eltchat The T I'm thinking of was able to cut her TTT when instruction giving or maintaining discipline to almost zero!
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:47 @worldteacher quite a lot to juggle tho no? #eltchat see that a lot in my celta trainees
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:47 @Marisa_C @OUPELTGlobal Is that the activity in classroom  dynamics? #eltchat
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:47 #eltchat You know who you are @teacherkristina !! :-)
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:48 @OUPELTGlobal Yes agreed -  i didn’t express myself well with that tweet #eltchat
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:48 @Shaunwilden @OUPELTGlobal the wanted one - yes #eltchat my fave bk for stuff like that
teflgeek 10/23/2013 11:48 @worldteacher but I guess that's also after the class has been trained to the teacher - good CM doesn't happen overnight? #eltchat
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:48 @Marisa_C @OUPELTGlobal Yes its one  of mine as well #eltchat
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:48 @Marisa_C It is, but with experience it becomes second nature - and so effective! #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:50 @teflgeek #eltchat  @worldteacher   I think it's important for Ts to understand that it's a process, and to be patient.
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:50 Has anyone read the Jim Scrivener Book on Class Management yet? Reviews? #ELTchat http://t.co/3dtEh9mxw7 one by @ELTExperiences
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:50 @teflgeek Absolutely - but with the T I'm thinking of - she was so adept at it that she was able to train ss in a couple of lessons #eltchat
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:51 Useful article in ELTJ abt lessons on CM from managing controlling monkeys http://t.co/UGG9IBU1i5 #ELTchat
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:52 Useful links page on http://t.co/nms2dQ1mxL http://t.co/CliBqOHzuQ #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:52 RT @Marisa_C: Useful links page on http://t.co/nms2dQ1mxL http://t.co/CliBqOHzuQ #ELTchat
teflgeek 10/23/2013 11:52 @OUPELTGlobal @worldteacher annoying when people trying new systems and routines every class - consistency is so important #eltchat
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:53 @teflgeek @OUPELTGlobal @worldteacher Yes completely agree #eltchat
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:53 RT @worldteacher: @Marisa_C It is, but with experience it becomes second nature - and so effective! #eltchat > Yes!! aim  is autopilot !
teflgeek 10/23/2013 11:53 @worldteacher I know teachers like that - v.impressive to see in action! #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 11:54 #eltchat I use a "traffic light" to reduce use of L1. After a few weeks, students are speaking in English without noticing it.
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:54 @teflgeek Agreed - in my dept I tried to get a broad consensus on good CM techniques - consistency for Ts & ss. #eltchat
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:55 RT @OUPELTGlobal: #eltchat I use a "traffic light" to reduce use of L1. After a few weeks, students are speaking in English without noticin…
teflgeek 10/23/2013 11:56 @worldteacher then there's consistency of policy and consistency of implementation!  #eltchat.
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 11:56 @teflgeek @worldteacher So a key word for CM is consistency #eltchat
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:56 @OUPELTGlobal Yes, I know a T who uses the traffic lights system to great effect. She uses it T-S and S-T. #eltchat
teflgeek 10/23/2013 11:57 @Shaunwilden @worldteacher reckon so!  #eltchat
worldteacher 10/23/2013 11:57 @Shaunwilden @teflgeek Absolutely!! #eltchat
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 11:59 The other extreme though may end up just being a dry set of rules - we need a balance - saw video the other day which JUST rules! #ELTchat
LAILAHILALLAH 10/23/2013 12:00 RT @OUPELTGlobal: #eltchat I think the first 10 minutes of a class are crucial.
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 12:00 don't remember link - pls share if you know which one i mean #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 10/23/2013 12:00 Tonight it’ll be How to use contexts in teaching grammar   #eltchat
teflgeek 10/23/2013 12:00 @Marisa_C not the one about the importance of relationships (TedED)? #eltchat
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 12:01 @teflgeek no was one with a first day of class lesson which was just unbelievable #ELTchat
worldteacher 10/23/2013 12:02 RT @Shaunwilden Tonight it’ll be How to use contexts in teaching grammar   #eltchat
teflgeek 10/23/2013 12:02 @Marisa_C don't know it...  sorry! #eltchat
OUPELTGlobal 10/23/2013 12:02 #eltchat Well, I'm off to lunch. Thanks for the chat, always motivating for me.
teflgeek 10/23/2013 12:04 and it's back to reading interesting texts about learning styles for me!  Thanks for #eltchat all!
Marisa_C 10/23/2013 12:05 CHeers all and thanks for joining - anyone up for a quick summary? #eltchat
worldteacher 10/23/2013 12:06 #eltchat And I'm catching up on The Harmer Lectures http://t.co/j5wHdPJsco #betterlatethannever Thanks for the chat!
worldteacher 10/23/2013 12:07 @Marisa_C I can do it at the weekend, Marisa. #eltchat

 

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