| username |
utc date |
status |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:00 |
About to start #Eltchat - we will be sharing best practices on class management - please only tweets relevant to our topic with our hashtag |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:00 |
RT @Marisa_C: About to start #Eltchat - we will be sharing best practices on class management - please only tweets relevant to our topic wi… |
| esolcourses |
10/23/2013 11:04 |
RT @Marisa_C: About to start #Eltchat - we will be sharing best practices on class management - please only tweets relevant to our topic wi… |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:05 |
Anyone here to share top tips about class management? Hello? #ELTchat |
| touqo |
10/23/2013 11:07 |
RT @Marisa_C: About to start #Eltchat - we will be sharing best practices on class management - please only tweets relevant to our topic wi… |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:08 |
#eltchat Hello everyone. Love this topic and am looking forward to a great chat. |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:08 |
http://t.co/uEL7xNHamg for those with tweetdeck issues - moi aussi #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:09 |
@OUPELTGlobal Welcome #eltchat - hope not just u n me :-D but we'll manage ... |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:10 |
#eltchat I have some ideas but was hoping others would start. |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:12 |
#eltchat I think the first 10 minutes of a class are crucial. |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:12 |
@OUPELTGlobal #eltchat We'll wait for a few minutes then - tardiness our first topic? :-D |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:13 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal #eltchat I think the first 10 minutes of a class are crucial.> How so? Set the tone? Motivate? |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:13 |
#eltchat OK, I'm on twubs - thanks for the heads up @Marisa_C!! |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:14 |
Am on http://t.co/eMocmdibBk #eltchat too cheers Andrea |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:14 |
#eltchat Agree that beginning is important - always make sure I'm in class before sts. |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:14 |
#eltchat For me it sets the tone and helps the students transition to an English class from their L1 |
| cathmmadrid |
10/23/2013 11:14 |
@OUPELTGlobal agreed! I nearly always begin with a game to recycle language from previous class #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:15 |
@OUPELTGlobal Agree - with kids' classes I like to use the 'password on entry' system as they come into class. #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:15 |
#eltchat Yes, I think recycling is important - gives students confidence. |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:16 |
@worldteacher Cd u explain 'password on entry' for us pls? #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
10/23/2013 11:17 |
Hi all #ELTChat bit late owing to tweetdeck crapness |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:17 |
#eltchat What about where students sit? Do you allow them to keep the same seats every lesson? |
| touqo |
10/23/2013 11:17 |
@Marisa_C @OUPELTGlobal like rock bands? Play 2nd best song first -> get audience motivated. The best song last -> they come back. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:17 |
@teflgeek use twubs David here is the link http://t.co/eMocmdibBk #eltchat lags a wee bit but more stable |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:18 |
@worldteacher @OUPELTGlobal Please tell us the password #eltchat |
| cathmmadrid |
10/23/2013 11:18 |
#eltchat Last 5 or 10 minutes important too, good to 'end on a high' |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:18 |
@Marisa_C Usually a word or phrase from the last lesson that sts have to say to be 'allowed' into class. Could also be a q & a. #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
10/23/2013 11:18 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat using plume on the tablet.... |
| teflgeek |
10/23/2013 11:19 |
@worldteacher #eltchat they sit where they want, but i move them around a lot during class |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:19 |
@cathmmadrid #eltchat would that work for teens too? |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:19 |
So looks like good class management not just abt control and discipline but abt engagement & motivation too - end results of #ELTchat |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:19 |
I just became a member of the #eltchat Twub. For live tweets, photos, videos and more, check out http://t.co/ECjRXk6brG |
| cathmmadrid |
10/23/2013 11:20 |
@touqo Yes, best song last! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:21 |
@OUPELTGlobal Get them early - set the tone - even first days of a course crucial for CM #ELTchat |
| cathmmadrid |
10/23/2013 11:22 |
@OUPELTGlobal I think for everyone, students leave with a real sense of what they've learnt during the lesson #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:22 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat Yes, students will rise to your expectations and it's good to set them early |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:23 |
RT @Marisa_C: @OUPELTGlobal Get them early - set the tone - even first days of a course crucial for CM #ELTchat |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:23 |
@Marisa_C Agreed - important to set classroom rules at the start - get sts to come up with them - class contract. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:25 |
@worldteacher Like contracts :-)- can be written with Ss - T has contractual obligations too: to teach motivating lessons #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:25 |
@Marisa_C Can you see this? #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:25 |
#eltchat I usually have a 2-part contract that everyone signs up to. The sts will .... The teacher will .... Everyone knows what's expected |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:25 |
@Shaunwilden yes saw this one #eltchat but first one for some time |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:26 |
@Marisa_C I sent you three DMS, did you see those? #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:26 |
@worldteacher #eltchat Yes, and then you can use it to reinforce good behaviour |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:26 |
@Marisa_C Absolutely!! Important to have clear goals, too - for the course & for each lesson, so sts know what they should achieve #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:27 |
@worldteacher I think having both the teacher and sts agreeing to the contracts is imp #eltchat |
| touqo |
10/23/2013 11:27 |
In corporate life there is a distinction between management and leadership. Any resonance with class management? #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:27 |
#eltchat Is CM the same for different age groups? |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:27 |
@OUPELTGlobal Yes, it's a good reminder as the course goes on - leave on display to be referred to. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:27 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: #eltchat Is CM the same for different age groups? > Good question |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:28 |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @OUPELTGlobal: #eltchat Is CM the same for different age groups? > hmm fundamentally yes? |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:28 |
@touqo I guess so - I often ask Ts to think of a good CEO or leader and think of THEIR qualities - what can we learn from them #ELTchat |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:29 |
@OUPELTGlobal I think basic principles are the same, but need to adapt methods used for different ages. #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
10/23/2013 11:30 |
@OUPELTGlobal #eltchat on a basic level -yes. Devil's in the details...... |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:30 |
I think YLs expect a firmer hand from the T - older Ss can contribute to rules and seek/accept choice #ELTchat |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:30 |
@touqo I think in our profession leadership and management go together - can't have one without the other. #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:30 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat @touqo I like this idea of using a leader as an example, especially for teens who usually have their "idols". |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:30 |
@Marisa_C Though I think some adults prefer a firmer teacher #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:31 |
@OUPELTGlobal @touqo good leaders brief, support, monitor, encourage, reward, intervene when necessary etc. all gd CM skills #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:31 |
@Shaunwilden true not all tho #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:32 |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Agree - many of my adult sts take on childlike behaviour when they go back in the classroom after time away! #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:33 |
#eltchat CM can also teach/develop good learning skills for all ages. |
| teflgeek |
10/23/2013 11:33 |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C #eltchat do they? Or do they just expect you to conform to stereotype? |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:33 |
#eltchat How much does good CM affect student performance and results? |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:34 |
@teflgeek @Marisa_C They do, I usually discuss this is my first lessons with them #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:35 |
I had fun doing this Pecha Kucha - the flip side of good CM http://t.co/MoRMBQukIb #eltchat - a while ago now |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:36 |
RT @worldteacher: #eltchat How much does good CM affect student performance and results? > Hugely I believe - gd CM inspires confidence in T |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:36 |
@OUPELTGlobal I agree - I think poor CM lets students down. Some even fail because of it. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:37 |
@worldteacher @OUPELTGlobal Yes i agree CM is vital for success #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:37 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat @worldteacher I agree, confidence is important when learning a new language, especially for adults. |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:39 |
#eltchat I have the impression that most teachers don't give CM the importance it deserves. Has that been your experience? |
| teflgeek |
10/23/2013 11:39 |
Good CM sets the boundaries on how the learning happens. Bad CM takes up all the learning time. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:39 |
@OUPELTGlobal Agreed, I see it on dip courses all the time, they think they know it and often do it appallingly #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:39 |
#eltchat My own research suggests this as a top quality with adult Ss especially #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
10/23/2013 11:40 |
@OUPELTGlobal For me it's been an evolutionary process. my CM has changed a lot over the years! #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:41 |
#eltchat moving from the British Council to a mainstream made me aware of the importance of CM. It became essential. |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:41 |
@OUPELTGlobal In observing Ts, I often find that they haven't even thought about CM when planning their lessons! #eltchat |
| cathmmadrid |
10/23/2013 11:41 |
@OUPELTGlobal @worldteacher @Marisa_C I agree re confidence, and CM also includes monitoring, obvious to students if not being done #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:42 |
#eltchat we've mentioned contracts, any other "tricks" for making CM a part of the class? |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:43 |
Good CM takes time to polish - suggestion is 2-3 years in a novice T - shows its complexity doesn't it #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:44 |
RT @Marisa_C: Good CM takes time to polish - suggestion is 2-3 years in a novice T - shows its complexity doesn't it #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:45 |
@OUPELTGlobal With YL its inbuilt into class routines isn’t it? #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:45 |
@OUPELTGlobal One of the best Ts I've ever seen had her CM down to a series of small gestures & facial expressions - joy to watch! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:45 |
@OUPELTGlobal a response to a Wanted Ad for an ideal S-Ss write back & convince me they have all the qualities - make promises too #ELTchat |
| digitalpedpet |
10/23/2013 11:46 |
What would you do with a bad teacher? http://t.co/NL7EFJDne6 #ELTchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:46 |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat I think routines are important for all ages. It communicates what is expected of students and gives them confidence. |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:46 |
#eltchat The T I'm thinking of was able to cut her TTT when instruction giving or maintaining discipline to almost zero! |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:47 |
@worldteacher quite a lot to juggle tho no? #eltchat see that a lot in my celta trainees |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:47 |
@Marisa_C @OUPELTGlobal Is that the activity in classroom dynamics? #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:47 |
#eltchat You know who you are @teacherkristina !! :-) |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:48 |
@OUPELTGlobal Yes agreed - i didn’t express myself well with that tweet #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:48 |
@Shaunwilden @OUPELTGlobal the wanted one - yes #eltchat my fave bk for stuff like that |
| teflgeek |
10/23/2013 11:48 |
@worldteacher but I guess that's also after the class has been trained to the teacher - good CM doesn't happen overnight? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:48 |
@Marisa_C @OUPELTGlobal Yes its one of mine as well #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:48 |
@Marisa_C It is, but with experience it becomes second nature - and so effective! #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:50 |
@teflgeek #eltchat @worldteacher I think it's important for Ts to understand that it's a process, and to be patient. |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:50 |
Has anyone read the Jim Scrivener Book on Class Management yet? Reviews? #ELTchat http://t.co/3dtEh9mxw7 one by @ELTExperiences |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:50 |
@teflgeek Absolutely - but with the T I'm thinking of - she was so adept at it that she was able to train ss in a couple of lessons #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:51 |
Useful article in ELTJ abt lessons on CM from managing controlling monkeys http://t.co/UGG9IBU1i5 #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:52 |
Useful links page on http://t.co/nms2dQ1mxL http://t.co/CliBqOHzuQ #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:52 |
RT @Marisa_C: Useful links page on http://t.co/nms2dQ1mxL http://t.co/CliBqOHzuQ #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
10/23/2013 11:52 |
@OUPELTGlobal @worldteacher annoying when people trying new systems and routines every class - consistency is so important #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:53 |
@teflgeek @OUPELTGlobal @worldteacher Yes completely agree #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:53 |
RT @worldteacher: @Marisa_C It is, but with experience it becomes second nature - and so effective! #eltchat > Yes!! aim is autopilot ! |
| teflgeek |
10/23/2013 11:53 |
@worldteacher I know teachers like that - v.impressive to see in action! #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 11:54 |
#eltchat I use a "traffic light" to reduce use of L1. After a few weeks, students are speaking in English without noticing it. |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:54 |
@teflgeek Agreed - in my dept I tried to get a broad consensus on good CM techniques - consistency for Ts & ss. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:55 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: #eltchat I use a "traffic light" to reduce use of L1. After a few weeks, students are speaking in English without noticin… |
| teflgeek |
10/23/2013 11:56 |
@worldteacher then there's consistency of policy and consistency of implementation! #eltchat. |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 11:56 |
@teflgeek @worldteacher So a key word for CM is consistency #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:56 |
@OUPELTGlobal Yes, I know a T who uses the traffic lights system to great effect. She uses it T-S and S-T. #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
10/23/2013 11:57 |
@Shaunwilden @worldteacher reckon so! #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 11:57 |
@Shaunwilden @teflgeek Absolutely!! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 11:59 |
The other extreme though may end up just being a dry set of rules - we need a balance - saw video the other day which JUST rules! #ELTchat |
| LAILAHILALLAH |
10/23/2013 12:00 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: #eltchat I think the first 10 minutes of a class are crucial. |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 12:00 |
don't remember link - pls share if you know which one i mean #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10/23/2013 12:00 |
Tonight it’ll be How to use contexts in teaching grammar #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
10/23/2013 12:00 |
@Marisa_C not the one about the importance of relationships (TedED)? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 12:01 |
@teflgeek no was one with a first day of class lesson which was just unbelievable #ELTchat |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 12:02 |
RT @Shaunwilden Tonight it’ll be How to use contexts in teaching grammar #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
10/23/2013 12:02 |
@Marisa_C don't know it... sorry! #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
10/23/2013 12:02 |
#eltchat Well, I'm off to lunch. Thanks for the chat, always motivating for me. |
| teflgeek |
10/23/2013 12:04 |
and it's back to reading interesting texts about learning styles for me! Thanks for #eltchat all! |
| Marisa_C |
10/23/2013 12:05 |
CHeers all and thanks for joining - anyone up for a quick summary? #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 12:06 |
#eltchat And I'm catching up on The Harmer Lectures http://t.co/j5wHdPJsco #betterlatethannever Thanks for the chat! |
| worldteacher |
10/23/2013 12:07 |
@Marisa_C I can do it at the weekend, Marisa. #eltchat |
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