| username |
time |
status |
| Marisa_C |
9:03 PM |
So, testing times (but really opportunity for T to catch up :-) - how many types of questions mentioned in video? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:03 PM |
Shall we discuss it then? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:03 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Tonight's #eltchat at 21BST is the power of questions - http://t.co/zZfmmM53GF |
| SueAnnan |
9:04 PM |
sorry everyone. had to watch it to the end #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:04 PM |
@Marisa_C lots ;-) #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:04 PM |
@Shaunwilden Good question. #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:05 PM |
#eltchat the interesting Qs she asked were Qs not really for an answer but Qs u ask so they "stare you in the face" |
| shaznosel |
9:05 PM |
Hi all..here but have to admit I had sound probs with the video- so a little blind here! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:05 PM |
@Shaunwilden hm - was hoping ther would be a simple three to four part categorization - and may be higher vs lower order Qs no? #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:06 PM |
she did have a list of diff types of Qs - yes/no, right/wrong, thought-provoking, CCQs, Qs for requests etc #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:06 PM |
@KatySDavies explain pls bcz unable to her audio of this one #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:06 PM |
@Marisa_C It was really done like that, there was sone identifying of Qs types and what their purpose was #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:07 PM |
so for example she asked 'why did this picture choose you' not 'why did you choose this picture' #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:07 PM |
my fave was why did this picture choose you #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:07 PM |
I liked the idea that they were tweaks on 'normal' questions - changing perspectives #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:07 PM |
She looked at questions teachers ask, then questions they ask their students, then questions students ask #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:08 PM |
@sandymillin we all seem to have focused on the picture question #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:08 PM |
@KatySDavies Yes. It helped to get creative answers #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:08 PM |
@KatySDavies and the thinking behind this? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:08 PM |
@Shaunwilden Yes, that was really good twist. Good to provoke & stimulate sts minds. #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:08 PM |
For example 'why did this picture choose you?' 'why not pick a more unusual country for your brochure instead of the standard 1s?' #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:08 PM |
@SueAnnan OK sounds like what it should be then #ELTchat so how many Q types do we ask and which ones most useful |
| sandymillin |
9:09 PM |
@Shaunwilden possibly because she asked variations on it so often! (wonder if that might not get annoying after a while...) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:09 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: So overall, has this talk helped u reflect on types of Qs YOU ask? #eltchat and their functions? |
| Marisa_C |
9:09 PM |
So overall, has this talk helped u reflect on types of Qs YOU ask? #eltchat and their functions? |
| Shaunwilden |
9:09 PM |
@theteacherjames though i would have answered cos you gave it to me #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
9:09 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C & questions teachers ask themselves as well, which IMO are just as important (i.e. reflection) #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
9:09 PM |
@KatySDavies And were ss able to deal with that? #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:09 PM |
I think with the 'staring in the face' she was also talking about reflective Qs about your own teaching #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:10 PM |
@Marisa_C yes. She mentioned that if you ask students Do you want to read that again? it was better than them having to request it #ELTChat |
| KatySDavies |
9:10 PM |
@jankenb2 not really #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:10 PM |
@Shaunwilden @theteacherjames but that's cos you're sarcastic ;) #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:10 PM |
@Marisa_C I'm always asking Qs, but after watching this, probably not enough variety. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:10 PM |
@esolcourses @Shaunwilden ahhh - u get the cooki all right #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
9:10 PM |
I wish I had time to view the recording, but did she discuss Ts asking questions & then answering them as a modeling strategy? #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:10 PM |
I don't think she actually said what level of Ss, and I did wonder if my Ss would cope with that #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:11 PM |
side note: trying to #eltchat from ip@d and it's not very easy. any tips for best a p p to use? |
| Shaunwilden |
9:11 PM |
@theteacherjames @sandymillin Moi?! Never! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:11 PM |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C though i find sts get stressed by the choice :-) #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:11 PM |
@sandymillin @Shaunwilden You beat me to it Sandy! #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:12 PM |
@Marisa_C yes & actually I was thinking that for me the important Qs are the ones that show you're listening n create rapport #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
9:12 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: @Marisa_C yes. She mentioned that if you ask students Do you want to read that again? it was better than them having to reque… |
| Shaunwilden |
9:12 PM |
@sandymillin i always have trouble keeping up on my pad #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:12 PM |
“@SueAnnan: @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C I find it works for my guys when I do that #ELTChat†me too |
| SueAnnan |
9:12 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C I find it works for my guys when I do that #ELTChat |
| SueAnnan |
9:13 PM |
@shaznosel that's what she said #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
9:13 PM |
so it sounds like she got u thinking abt Qs to provoke student thinking not just checkin comrehension etc #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:13 PM |
RT @KatySDavies: @Marisa_C yes & actually I was thinking that for me the important Qs are the ones that show you're listening n create rap… |
| shaznosel |
9:13 PM |
@SueAnnan Seems a fair point- as Ss may be afraid to ask - so putting youself in ss shoes? |
| Shaunwilden |
9:13 PM |
RT @KatySDavies: @Marisa_C yes & actually I was thinking that for me the important Qs are the ones that show you're listening n create rap… |
| Shaunwilden |
9:14 PM |
@Marisa_C She also did an activity to show how to encourage sts to question #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:14 PM |
@SueAnnan Oh! Couldn't hear the vid so was lip reading! #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:14 PM |
so one of our questions should always be: how would I feel in your place? #eltchat we need to remember how it feels to be a student |
| Shaunwilden |
9:14 PM |
@Marisa_C Yes she covered everything from CCQs thru to provoking creativity #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:14 PM |
It's interesting for me - I'm asking u Qs to reconstruct her talk right now :-) #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:14 PM |
definitely - and getting Ss to ask Qs themselves (e.g we're going to talk about topic of friendship, write down 5 Qs) #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
9:15 PM |
Of the various types of ?s, did she note which were the most or the least used by Ts? #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:15 PM |
although she didn't really touch on this it got me thinkin bout Q basics again - like I'm sure I don't wait long enough 4 answers! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:15 PM |
I think that's where a lot of materials are lacking - Ss don't get to ask enough Qs #eltchat - usually T does this |
| shaznosel |
9:15 PM |
@sandymillin Top priority I say ..not always easy to remember! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:16 PM |
@sandymillin @KatySDavies @yearinthelifeof Well Qs don't necessarily have to be interrogative forms! #ELtchat so quite relevant |
| sandymillin |
9:16 PM |
@Marisa_C didn't @englishraven write some materials to try and prompt more questions from/by students? #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:16 PM |
@Marisa_C yes or reformulating the Q again and again and just confusing the issue - guilty! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:16 PM |
@jankenb2 no but thats an interesting thought - which would you say is then ? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:16 PM |
@sandymillin At least with Hootsuite, you can see the #eltchat stream and mentions at the same time. A big easier than the Twitter app. |
| Marisa_C |
9:16 PM |
@KatySDavies waiting time often key - i often see Ts rushing in impatiently not allowing thinking time #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:16 PM |
@KatySDavies Reminds me of this post by @yearinthelifeof http://t.co/QaC0gx4bIQ - not strictly questions, but could be #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:16 PM |
she also said that students tend to ask factual qs about pics, but if someone asks an interesting q, the others catch on quick #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
9:17 PM |
Great game "Questions Please" with T only allowed yes/no answers for Ss to guess sth - story, text etc #eLTchat |
| sandymillin |
9:17 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @KatySDavies waiting time often key - i often see Ts rushing in impatiently not allowing thinking time #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:17 PM |
@sandymillin thanks for that Sandy #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:17 PM |
@KatySDavies Yes..sometimes we don't acknowledge our ss need time to think and then use the L2 to express themselves #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:18 PM |
@MarjorieRosenbe teacher questions and student questions #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:18 PM |
@KatySDavies Oh yes, that takes a lot of determination. "Wait, wait, wait…" #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
9:18 PM |
Just got home.what is exact topic? #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:19 PM |
Today my SS were remembering questions they had before they came to/in their first week @ihnewcastle - next step=answers in a video #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:19 PM |
reminds me of great iatefl sess we went to @sandymillin bout exploratory practice n Ss chose Qs like 'why is spelling difficult' #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:19 PM |
@sandymillin Vicious circle - if we prompt - are we allowing them to think for themselves? |
| Shaunwilden |
9:19 PM |
@MarjorieRosenbe We're discussing around the topic of the power of questions which is one of the recorded #iatefl talks #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:19 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @KatySDavies waiting time often key - i often see Ts rushing in impatiently not allowing thinking time #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:20 PM |
@shaznosel i think it was more general prompting - as in, setting up a lesson based on SS questions not T ones #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:20 PM |
@jankenb2 Planning of Qs definitely works so much better for me #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:20 PM |
Francoise Grellet has a great typology of Qs for reading in her book http://t.co/IpxwmvCgzx #ELTchat |
| sandymillin |
9:20 PM |
@theteacherjames @KatySDavies Who was it who said, you should count 1000,2000,3000 like a parachute jumper? Maybe @AnthonyGaughan? #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
9:20 PM |
@Shaunwilden Ts can rely on one type 2 & over use one form & avoid others. Trick is to plan out ?s as part of overal strategy. #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
9:21 PM |
This reminds me a a game use w/middle schoolers. It was a question tree. Pen one general & then drill down w/specific ?s only. Fun #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:21 PM |
@KatySDavies #eltchat Yes - students often come up with very different q's to teachers, and offers a lot of insight |
| Shaunwilden |
9:21 PM |
@jankenb2 i agree with planning out ?s esp for a starting teacher #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:22 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @jankenb2 i agree with planning out ?s esp for a starting teacher #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:22 PM |
@theteacherjames I agree - thinking time and time to compose the answer is not always given by T, silence is not good?? #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:22 PM |
@KatySDavies one of my SS asked today why some older people here can be a bit racist at times. led to very interesting discussion #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:22 PM |
@sandymillin @KatySDavies I don't remember, but it was a good idea! #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:23 PM |
@sandymillin with you - I couldn't hear the vid..so a lot of guess work! #eltchat |
| fedeanna1 |
9:23 PM |
RT @shaznosel: @theteacherjames I agree - thinking time and time to compose the answer is not always given by T, silence is not good?? #elt… |
| Marisa_C |
9:23 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @shaznosel Yes, teachers can be scared of silence. #eltchat > unfortunately |
| Shaunwilden |
9:23 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @shaznosel Yes, teachers can be scared of silence. #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:23 PM |
@shaznosel Yes, teachers can be scared of silence. #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:23 PM |
@jankenb2 can you give an example - sounds intriguing, but not quite sure what you mean? #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:24 PM |
@sandymillin oh dear, gotta love Newcastle! Yes & sometimes the potentially difficult Qs ss ask each other can open up gd debate #eltchat |
| MicaelaCarey |
9:24 PM |
I teach Young learners and I love silence in the classroom! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:25 PM |
So just wrap up on the question types she mentions - elicitation, checking( CCQs and ICQs) stimulating/provoking thinkingany other? #ELtchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:25 PM |
@theteacherjames I did Silent Way 4 Delta exploratory practice n it was amazing how much more space there was 4 Ss 2engage with Qs #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
9:25 PM |
@sandymillin Ts pose a general ? on the board. Teams essentially create a concept map using ?s instead of facts. Generates novel L #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:26 PM |
@KatySDavies yes! Silent way does that!!! isn't it great... as tool for embracing teacher silence!!! #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:26 PM |
@Marisa_C I think thats most of them #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:26 PM |
@KatySDavies Yes, I'd love to try it at some point, must be fascinating. #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:28 PM |
Silent Way def showed me the value of Qs that are not immediately clear / don't seem to make sense #eltchat |
| prese1 |
9:28 PM |
Hello.I haven't watched the video so I'm lurking today. Silent way? #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:28 PM |
@MicaelaCarey There is never silence in my YL classes!-they are willing to take risks..older ss need time to think/anaylise #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
9:28 PM |
@sandymillin Ex What is weather? What are seasons? What is winter etc. Ech ? linked to general. Can B wild, using CT & logic #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:28 PM |
@Marisa_C it was eye opening - especially to see the quieter Ss coming into their own as the louder ones got quickly frustrated #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:29 PM |
@airkomvux Always in their shoes.. |
| SueAnnan |
9:29 PM |
@Marisa_C interesting idea #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:29 PM |
if you record yourself time your waiting time between a Q and a student answer #ELtchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:29 PM |
@prese1 it's an approach to teaching - here's what onestop says about it http://t.co/K3ZcOS6UmL #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:29 PM |
@jankenb2 I love this idea #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:29 PM |
recorg yourself and each time u ask a question note what type it was - generates a profile of u as a T #ELTchat |
| airkomvux |
9:29 PM |
RT @sandymillin: so one of our questions should always be: how would I feel in your place? #eltchat we need to remember how it feels to be… |
| Shaunwilden |
9:30 PM |
@Marisa_C that's an interesting idea, what kind of length of gap would you expect? #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:30 PM |
@Marisa_C oooh yes, I definitely need to do this, thanks #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
9:30 PM |
Just presented learning styles book & showed personal mindmap-give some info, srs ask to get info. #eltchat colleagues loved it |
| prese1 |
9:30 PM |
@Shaunwilden Thanks #eltchat |
| MicaelaCarey |
9:31 PM |
@shaznosel true- YLs are very confident when speaking but I meant when they're working or listening to me ask questions #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
9:31 PM |
Obe colleague thought she could use personal mindmap for sts to ask each other q's about research questions #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:31 PM |
So I think we've gone slightly off topic. What about the more philosophical kind of questions that T's ask themselves? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:31 PM |
very dodgy connection tonight. sorry. I think tweetdeck is on its last legs #ELTchat |
| jankenb2 |
9:32 PM |
@theteacherjames @shaznosel Wait Time needs to allow 2-step processing of translating target lang to 1st lang then process concept #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:32 PM |
thinking about gaps before answers, I also like Qs that Ss ask when there's not an immediate answer e.g writing Qs 2ask ppl at home #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
9:32 PM |
Sts like asking personal q's - also asking me. #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:32 PM |
@Shaunwilden Yeah, kind of! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:32 PM |
@Shaunwilden nospecific no of seconds - but it's interesting to observe and make a note of it - in conjunction w if Ss answered #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:32 PM |
@MarjorieRosenbe Did a very similar lesson to that on Monday and was going to blog it, so will try to link to your book now :) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:32 PM |
@theteacherjames like why i am here, why do i do this? ;-) #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:32 PM |
@Marisa_C When I ask a question..I try to think how long would I need to answer this in Greek? I know how they feel. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:33 PM |
@Marisa_C Yes i think it would be a good little piece of self-research. I wonder if there are marked correlations with teaching exp #eltchat |
| ShellTerrell |
9:33 PM |
Join American TESOL Institute’s Group on LinkedIn http://t.co/y68K5NZ3CZ #esl #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:33 PM |
@MicaelaCarey True but YLs are always asking questions but often in L1 as they need immmediate feedback.. #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:33 PM |
She mentioned the Q "How can I make my classroom more democratic?" Do you ask yourself q's like this? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:33 PM |
I often suggest the pair & share idea to my trainees - ask a Q let Ss discuss answer in prs then publicly #ELTchat generates more st talk |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
9:33 PM |
Sorry couldn't do hw- mon- wed full with classes #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:33 PM |
@theteacherjames For example...? #eltchat Only managed to watch about half of the video...did she mention any? |
| sandymillin |
9:34 PM |
@KatySDavies @theteacherjames or the truly philosophical nes you can never answer.One of my SS currently obsessed with chicken/egg! #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
9:34 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: She mentioned the Q "How can I make my classroom more democratic?" Do you ask yourself q's like this? #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:34 PM |
@theteacherjames I guess most often, why did that go badly / why did that go well #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
9:34 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: I often suggest the pair & share idea to my trainees - ask a Q let Ss discuss answer in prs then publicly #ELTchat generates … |
| hartle |
9:34 PM |
#eltchat hi everyone, sorry I'm late. i'll try to catch up |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
9:35 PM |
@KatySDavies @theteacherjames Great q's. Often think about these. #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
9:35 PM |
@theteacherjames really good question I thought, and yes. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:35 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: She mentioned the Q "How can I make my classroom more democratic?" Do you ask yourself q's like this? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:35 PM |
@Shaunwilden there is research abt types of Qs and size of responses #ELTchat Closed -convergent thinking Qs = shorter st responses #eltchat |
| fedeanna1 |
9:36 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat hi everyone, sorry I'm late. i'll try to catch up |
| Marisa_C |
9:37 PM |
@hartle good term 'display' questions mentioned in research paper just mentioned #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:37 PM |
@Marisa_C thanks #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:37 PM |
@Shaunwilden Did she mean more fair/integrating weak with positive ss? #eltchat |
| MicaelaCarey |
9:37 PM |
@shaznosel they certainly do! Shows their interest in the topic. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:37 PM |
@Shaunwilden Here is one such paper #ELTchat http://t.co/0lnTmrGIJ4 |
| Shaunwilden |
9:37 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat she didn't really discuss this but one of probs with trainees is that they ask too many display qus, rather than real … |
| hartle |
9:37 PM |
#eltchat she didn't really discuss this but one of probs with trainees is that they ask too many display qus, rather than real communication |
| hartle |
9:38 PM |
#eltchat asking qus that gi beyond the obvious is essential, I think, so qus like "why did the pic choose me?" can be really effective. |
| shaznosel |
9:38 PM |
@MicaelaCarey That's great - interest generates language and so q's! #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:39 PM |
@theteacherjames My sons agree with you! Egg! #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:39 PM |
What kinds of questions can ask ourselves? Reflective? Value based? #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
9:39 PM |
Another fun game to stim novel lang is 2 challenge Ss 2 reveal bias. Ss R 2 generate a counter ? for every ? Ts poses on disc topic #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:39 PM |
@sandymillin @KatySDavies Chicken and egg? The answer is egg. #eltchat #sorted |
| sandymillin |
9:39 PM |
.@geml1 did a 6 week self-reflection. one week was about asking questions and wait time http://t.co/PRwVwEQzX6 #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:40 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @hartle good term 'display' questions #eltchat... :-) it's natural as trainees come to terms with LA but no real communication |
| theteacherjames |
9:40 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @theteacherjames Surely we should always questions ourselves? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:40 PM |
@theteacherjames Surely we should always questions ourselves? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:40 PM |
i like one category which we haven't mentioned Qs which stimulate Ss to pursue further knowledge #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
9:40 PM |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden cheers for the cookie, Marisa! nom > nom > nom > nom > nom > nom > :-) #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:40 PM |
Saw great talk bout PD sessions: on PostIt write 3things u know a lot about& 3Qs u'd like to know more about, n swap knowledge #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:41 PM |
RT @sandymillin: .@geml1 did a 6 week self-reflection. one week was about asking questions and wait time http://t.co/PRwVwEQzX6 #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
9:41 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat asking qus that gi beyond the obvious is essential, I think, so qus like "why did the pic choose me?" can be really ef… |
| theteacherjames |
9:41 PM |
@Shaunwilden Should yes, but I wonder how many do? #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:41 PM |
@theteacherjames the session wasn't related to chickens or eggs though sorry! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:42 PM |
#ELTchat |
| shaznosel |
9:42 PM |
@hartle Exactly - 'display questions' show knowledge not communication abilities. #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:42 PM |
@KatySDavies We'll be doing something like that at our BELTA day next month. cant't wait! #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:43 PM |
#eltchat here's quick ex I made for exam prep. with questions that go beyond display http://t.co/H5cKBmT2gx |
| esolcourses |
9:44 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat here's quick ex I made for exam prep. with questions that go beyond display http://t.co/tIeQsyg5Im |
| hartle |
9:44 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: i like one category which we haven't mentioned Qs which stimulate Ss to pursue further knowledge #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:44 PM |
@Marisa_C cheers marisa, that looks well worth reading #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:45 PM |
Flipping the tables on the Ss may generate more Qs e.g each grp bring a text and test the T #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:45 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:46 PM |
@Shaunwilden Oui #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:46 PM |
@Marisa_C interesting - in that document 1study shows approx 60% of Qs in classroom = lower cognitive, 20% higher & 20% procedural #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:46 PM |
@Marisa_C Interesting read! Good points which we should all think about - take Socrates as an example! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:46 PM |
@Marisa_C test the teacher?#eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:47 PM |
@Shaunwilden We can only test ourselves! Reflection - questions for us!!?? #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
9:47 PM |
Also try to get sts to think through q's. Was in NYC blackout & asked them what happens when all power is out. Made them think. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:47 PM |
@KatySDavies think abt the time u do ICQs not? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:47 PM |
@Marisa_C Ok my question wasn't so good then, i asked it to encourage ou to elaborate :-) #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:47 PM |
#eltchat difficult for ts to understand what is in st heads if we don't ask them how they feel. I did recent poll on Facbook re correction. |
| jankenb2 |
9:48 PM |
@Marisa_C Gr8. Research on Ts self assess vs actual practice w/complex ?s revealing. Ts over estimate the # of complex ?s they ask. #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:48 PM |
#eltchat Bloom taxonomy qus useful model too |
| Marisa_C |
9:48 PM |
@Shaunwilden obviously but no time to - yes ok write Qs on the text to test T and other grps #ELTchat |
| sandymillin |
9:49 PM |
Here are those @englishraven materials I mentioned to get students to ask questions http://t.co/IWpktfSFn7 #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:50 PM |
I think in general the amount and quality of Teacher Talk (w Qs) is sth worth investigating via recordings which now easy peasy #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:50 PM |
@hartle how do you actually use Bloom's taxonomy for asking questions? still haven't really grasped how it works #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:50 PM |
RT @sandymillin: Here are those @englishraven materials I mentioned to get students to ask questions http://t.co/IWpktfSFn7 #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:51 PM |
@sandymillin @hartle Bloom indicates cognitive engagement - so much Qs types to levels of complexity higher to lower thinking #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
9:51 PM |
Other research on Ts ?ing technique is that many Ts do not accurately identify complex ?s. We confuse less complex 4 more complex. #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:52 PM |
@sandymillin thanks for that - from quick glance like the idea of giving Ss Q stems n they can finish them 2make compQs for a text #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:52 PM |
@sandymillin @hartle sorry I meant 'match" not 'much' - match objective to level of Q #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:53 PM |
Evaluation Qs would be more generative that Recall Qs #ELTchat @sandymillin |
| Marisa_C |
9:54 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat useful little article on the Brit. Council site on qus http://t.co/LHQp0Fnp53 > yes nice - more ELT oriented maybe |
| kostasgeorgioy |
9:54 PM |
RT @ShellTerrell: via @yearinthelifeof Favourite infographic for April: Tips for Becoming a Digital Teacher http://t.co/t825hMyDwh #eltchat… |
| shaznosel |
9:54 PM |
@Marisa_C so encourages ss to use their cognitive skills and aids memory?? #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:54 PM |
#eltchat useful little article on the Brit. Council site on qus http://t.co/31YlUQH5A3 |
| jankenb2 |
9:54 PM |
@sandymillin @hartle I love Blooms.For example (note the hierarchy) Plan a sequence of ?s to guide Ss along #eltchat http://t.co/WBJqfJfz2Q |
| aphi_cao |
9:54 PM |
@Marisa_C timing so important in multi language class otherwise some grps of Ss will drown out others who are careful/reserved. #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
9:55 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: #ELTchat |
| sandymillin |
9:55 PM |
RT @aphi_cao: @Marisa_C timing so important in multi language class otherwise some grps of Ss will drown out others who are careful/reserve… |
| KatySDavies |
9:55 PM |
@hartle nice link thanks! Interesting figure: "Typically, teachers ask between 300-400 questions per day" - wow! #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:55 PM |
@sandymillin #eltchat one way is to ensure a balance of qus, so not just lower order but moving up the scale. |
| theteacherjames |
9:56 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat useful little article on the Brit. Council site on qus http://t.co/31YlUQH5A3 |
| Shaunwilden |
9:56 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @shaznosel different Q types prompt recall to those generating reflection or creation of ideas #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:56 PM |
@shaznosel different Q types prompt recall to those generating reflection or creation of ideas #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:57 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @KatySDavies @hartle I sometimes wonder if my job is really just about asking the right questions at the right times! … |
| theteacherjames |
9:57 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: As we get to the end is there a summary writer? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:57 PM |
@KatySDavies @hartle I sometimes wonder if my job is really just about asking the right questions at the right times! #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:57 PM |
2/2 #eltchat Gives them processing time, time to check grammar (difficult!), and means everyone should have sth to ask |
| KatySDavies |
9:57 PM |
def - e.g asking what you would have done in the shoes of the main character in a story rather than just trad readin omp Qs #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
9:57 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat useful little article on the Brit. Council site on qus http://t.co/31YlUQH5A3 |
| Shaunwilden |
9:57 PM |
As we get to the end is there a summary writer? #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:57 PM |
RT @jankenb2: @sandymillin @hartle I love Blooms. #eltchat :-) if you jse Lesson Writer they often make suggestins as you go |
| sandymillin |
9:57 PM |
Think it's useful to get students to write questions on small squares of paper before discussions sometimes #eltchat 1/2 |
| AnthonyGaughan |
9:58 PM |
@sandymillin @theteacherjames @KatySDavies yup, that was me: http://t.co/NGAb7V0cZr #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
9:58 PM |
@sandymillin yes, and if they can see each others Qs before the discussion the shy Ss might feel more confident in askin their Qs #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:58 PM |
@sandymillin nice idea - processing time often missing #eltchat |
| MicaelaCarey |
9:58 PM |
@hartle excellent article! thanks! #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:58 PM |
Here's the most crucial question of all: who would like to be our summary writer? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:58 PM |
@KatySDavies Grellet defines this as a supposition Q - which def creative thinking and higher order thinking #ELTchat |
| jankenb2 |
9:59 PM |
Using complex ?s may limit the # of ?s you focus on during class. That is ok 2, b/c Ss are generating novel lang using syn & analy. #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:59 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @KatySDavies @hartle I sometimes wonder if my job is really just about asking the right questions at the right times! … |
| hartle |
9:59 PM |
#eltchat in any case thinking abt the qus we ask is really important particularly if we want out tewching to foster demand high work :-) |
| theteacherjames |
9:59 PM |
RT @AnthonyGaughan: @sandymillin @theteacherjames @KatySDavies yup, that was me: http://t.co/NGAb7V0cZr #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10:00 PM |
A Question before we wrap up: WHo...........?????? #ELTchat can guess my Question? |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
10:00 PM |
RT @sandymillin: Think it's useful to get students to write questions on small squares of paper before discussions sometimes #eltchat 1/2 |
| KatySDavies |
10:00 PM |
@theteacherjames @hartle so, so true - and I think especially when it comes to rapport type Qs / asking the human interest Qs #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
10:00 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @KatySDavies @hartle I sometimes wonder if my job is really just about asking the right questions at the right times! … |
| Shaunwilden |
10:01 PM |
@KatySDavies @Marisa_C thank you #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10:01 PM |
@KatySDavies wow u're fast!!! #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
10:01 PM |
Thanks for great chat everyone, and if you'd like to write the summary, let us know! #eltchat |
| europacf |
10:01 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @shaznosel Yes, teachers can be scared of silence. #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
10:01 PM |
I'll do the summary #eltchat |
| hartle |
10:01 PM |
RT @jankenb2: Using complex ?s may limit the # of ?s you focus on during class. That is ok 2... #eltchat absolutely :-) |
| Shaunwilden |
10:01 PM |
The hour has passed time to stop asking questions until next week :-) #eltchat |
| KatySDavies |
10:02 PM |
@theteacherjames @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C haha - I actually have time for once this wkend so better to jump in this time! #eltchat |
| hartle |
10:02 PM |
#eltchat sorry everyone, have to go. Thanks for stimulating chat as always :-) Nght night |
| Marisa_C |
10:02 PM |
A most excellent #ELtchat i really enjoyed it - thanks for joining and sharing all this great stuff :-) |
| theteacherjames |
10:02 PM |
@KatySDavies Thanks Katy! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10:12 PM |
@Marisa_C: Here is another study I found on Eng Ts Qs bit.ly/10zcsDE #ELTchat > evaluated acc to Bloom's taxonomy |
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