| username |
time |
status |
| Shaunwilden |
11:59 AM |
RT @Marisa_C: Helo #ELTchat ! For the next hour my tweets will be all about motivation a la Hadfield and Mackay as describe here http://t.c… |
| Marisa_C |
11:59 AM |
Helo #ELTchat ! For the next hour my tweets will be all about motivation a la Hadfield and Mackay as describe here http://t.co/H7XVQW7dgg |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:00 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Helo #ELTchat ! For the next hour my tweets will be all about motivation a la Hadfield and Mackay as describe here http://t.c… |
| jo_sayers |
12:01 PM |
I'm talking motivation for the next hour with #eltchat Hi all |
| Marisa_C |
12:02 PM |
@jo_sayers Hi there #ELTchat anyone else joining? My tweetdeck is not at its best |
| jo_sayers |
12:04 PM |
@Marisa_C Maybe others are on their way! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:05 PM |
OK let's get a few comments going - impressions from the Jill Hadfield presentation? #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:06 PM |
#eltchat Hi all! |
| cioccas |
12:06 PM |
I'm here on #ELTchat, but haven't done my homework, sorry! |
| esolcourses |
12:06 PM |
@Marisa_C @jo_sayers here as well for #ELTchat, though twitter stream doesn't seem to be moving :-( |
| BobK99 |
12:07 PM |
RT @cioccas: I'm here on #ELTchat, but haven't done my homework, sorry! > Me too. I'll lurk mostly. |
| Marisa_C |
12:07 PM |
@jo_sayers Cumbersome? #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:07 PM |
@esolcourses @Marisa_C yep seems s l o w #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:07 PM |
RT @jo_sayers: @Marisa_C Seemed good as an idea, lots of work to get up and running though , and quite structured #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:07 PM |
HI Sue - Naomi, Lesley!! #ELTchat - are you all equally unruly and have not done yer HW? |
| cioccas |
12:07 PM |
I'm motivated, but also multi-tasking this evening #ELTchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:07 PM |
@Marisa_C Seemed good as an idea, lots of work to get up and running though , and quite structured #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:08 PM |
I think the focus on discrepancy between current and ideal L2 self is powerful #eltchat |
| cioccas |
12:08 PM |
@Marisa_C Sorry Marisa. Guess I'm a Flipped classroom failure :-( #ELTchat |
| naomishema |
12:08 PM |
Haven't done h.w. Haven't been able to attend a noon chat in ages!!! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:09 PM |
The Ideal Self |
| esolcourses |
12:09 PM |
@Marisa_C I haven't done my homework I'm afraid... Sorry! Was planning to lurk thru this one, & join in with this evening's one #ELTChat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:09 PM |
Involves a lot of learner training and presupposes a levl of Ss maturity, perhaps? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:09 PM |
RT @jo_sayers: I think the focus on discrepancy between current and ideal L2 self is powerful #eltchat > agree on this |
| jo_sayers |
12:10 PM |
@Marisa_C Iwonder if all the explicit focus on motivation could disrupt other aspects of class #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:11 PM |
@jo_sayers Jo it looks like you and @AlexandraKouk have been 'good' #ELTchat :-D |
| jo_sayers |
12:11 PM |
@AlexandraKouk yep, agreed; willingness to be motivated, awareness of self etc. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:12 PM |
Ok just very very quickly then for those unruly #ELTchat friends who will get no cookies..... |
| Marisa_C |
12:12 PM |
@AlexandraKouk @jo_sayers defo! #ELTchat |
| naomishema |
12:12 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @jo_sayers Jo it looks like you and @AlexandraKouk have been 'good' #ELTchat :-D |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:13 PM |
Involves visualisation techniques -do Ts need special traning for that? #eltchat |
| cioccas |
12:13 PM |
@Marisa_C Sorry, I'm listening now & checking her slides #ELTchat |
| cioccas |
12:14 PM |
@AlexandraKouk I would think so. I'm not good at visualisation myself, so not sure I could 'teach' it without some training. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:14 PM |
J Hadfield mentions these 4 selves : The Ideal Self / The Ought to Self The Feared Self The Default Self #ELTchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:14 PM |
@Marisa_C @AlexandraKouk Cookies are good motivators! #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:15 PM |
@Marisa_C @jo_sayers i like breaking it down into more specifics than "I want to be better" or " I want to be fluent" #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:15 PM |
...cont. and how to visualise and actualise the vision #ELTchat |
| JoHart |
12:15 PM |
@Marisa_C #ELTchat Hi I was going to "drop-in" as I do if have time but 4 me is a drop in - wldnt have time to watch 2 long presos ever :) |
| Marisa_C |
12:16 PM |
@kevchanwow HI Kevin - have you been using Hadfield's model? #ELTchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:16 PM |
Learners’ visions: |
| Marisa_C |
12:16 PM |
@michaelegriffin @jo_sayers yes - fair point Michael - but what do u think of the whole construct - which Mackay simply echoes IMHO #ELTchat |
| kevchanwow |
12:16 PM |
Been playing with ideal L2. self in class lately. Find it surprisingly easy to use to help Ss focus on task at hand. #ELTchat |
| hartle |
12:17 PM |
Hi everyone #eltchat really busy today but just looking in as the discussion looks so interesting :-) |
| jo_sayers |
12:17 PM |
Summary: By focusing on what ss want to be in L2 and planning how to get there, we increase chances of success #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:17 PM |
@JoHart Hey Jo u re always so welcome :-) #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:18 PM |
@cioccas @AlexandraKouk the Mackay talk suggested some way to intro it and make it work #eltchat |
| hartle |
12:18 PM |
@AlexandraKouk #eltchat those "selves" look very intersting. What do you do with them? |
| Marisa_C |
12:18 PM |
@kevchanwow Thanks - and how do you manage it timewise #ELTchat - at regular intervals or what? |
| kevchanwow |
12:18 PM |
@Marisa_C abbreviated form but based on what I took away from her IATEFL prez. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:19 PM |
Well I was about to say that tho I like the concept and its spill effects, for me it;s a misnaming of ongoing needs analysis #ELTchat |
| esolcourses |
12:19 PM |
@michaelegriffin @Marisa_C @jo_sayers agree. I think setting specific, personalised goals are a good way to go #ELTChat |
| cioccas |
12:19 PM |
@jo_sayers @AlexandraKouk Thanks Jonathan #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:19 PM |
@Marisa_C #eltchat i guess i simply think focus on goals and achievements good |
| JoHart |
12:20 PM |
@Marisa_C #ELTchat wld love to have joined in this evening - might have been able to if the stimulus was text but no time to watch presos |
| Marisa_C |
12:20 PM |
@michaelegriffin #ELTchat not pics :-D NO cookie for u then |
| jo_sayers |
12:20 PM |
@esolcourses @michaelegriffin @Marisa_C yes, and being realistic about what's possible #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:20 PM |
@hartle apparently, first of all, you (your Ss) have to define them #eltchat then you follow certain steps to realise this |
| kevchanwow |
12:20 PM |
Can be used in micro-situations as well. Interview practice can contain a "how long do want to speak w/ out pausing" type question #ELTchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:20 PM |
@Marisa_C @kevchanwow Maybe good to try bits and build up to Hdfield level of focus #eltchat |
| hartle |
12:21 PM |
#eltchat didn't have time to watch video :-(( ut does it mention specific visualisation of future selves? I sometimes do this but time... |
| naomishema |
12:21 PM |
@JoHart ditto! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:22 PM |
@jo_sayers and needs analysis does have a positive effect on motivation #ELTchat |
| hartle |
12:22 PM |
@AlexandraKouk :-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:22 PM |
@jo_sayers not only #ELTchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:23 PM |
@Marisa_C I'm on my phone cuz I was watching video #eltchat |
| hartle |
12:23 PM |
#eltchat i did watch video 4 this evening, just cldn't manage two :-( |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:23 PM |
@jo_sayers prep and vis/tion training, vis techniques (relaxed breathing, closed eyes, T Qs- what can you smell?) #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:24 PM |
@Marisa_C I suppose the difference is the focus then. And the importance of the visualisation of the future #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:24 PM |
@Marisa_C if you'd like to hear my negative/cynical side I'd say that the activities offered were pretty standard fare. ;) #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:25 PM |
@AlexandraKouk Yep, I liked the 'count breaths for one min and then reduce number' idea from Mackay #eltchat |
| louisealix68 |
12:25 PM |
back in time for tail end of #eltchat. Will try to get up to speed fast. |
| Marisa_C |
12:25 PM |
@michaelegriffin agree #ELTchat - looks like Ss are assumed to determine the linguistic content of actualising their visions tho? |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:27 PM |
@jo_sayers then ss write up and expand their vision for HW -T just guides them: they decide what Ideal Self is #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:27 PM |
RT @jo_sayers: @AlexandraKouk I liked the 'count breaths for one min and then reduce number' idea from Mackay #eltchat > suited 2 all Ss? |
| jo_sayers |
12:27 PM |
@michaelegriffin @Marisa_C Yep, agreed. Thought the visualisation and focus on discrepancy was more interesting #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:28 PM |
@Marisa_C @AlexandraKouk as a way of focusing attention on breath, it's good, and relaxing. Maybe hard for YLs #eltchat |
| cioccas |
12:28 PM |
Hmmm, realising that I can't participate effectively in this #ELTchat without having done my homework (& I'm not multi-tasking well today!) |
| hartle |
12:28 PM |
#eltchat what other ways do people use to motivate learners? |
| Marisa_C |
12:29 PM |
@hartle Well we could mention some standard stuff Susan but we re really talking abt these presentations and ideas within #ELTchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:30 PM |
@AlexandraKouk Yep, like that it's driven by ss with awareness of ought to self etc too #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:30 PM |
I liked the reality check bit: Ss decide which goals are easy, possible, hard or impossible for them to achieve in (table form) #eltchat |
| hartle |
12:31 PM |
@cioccas #eltchat likewise :-) |
| louisealix68 |
12:31 PM |
haven't seen any comments yet related to age.....do you approach different ages in different way? #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:31 PM |
@AlexandraKouk yes, nothing worse for motivation than an unrealistic goal! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:31 PM |
@AlexandraKouk Yes, me too - evaluation component (again part of needs/wants analysis isn't it ...) #ELTchat |
| louisealix68 |
12:32 PM |
Personally feel that very different approach required for young teens + tweens. Former not so good at own goals. #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:32 PM |
RT @Marisa_C looks like Ss r assumed to determine the linguistic content of actualising their visions >that is how I am taking it #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:32 PM |
@Marisa_C @AlexandraKouk But does conventional NA take into account the 'ought to' 'feared' etc in the same way? #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:32 PM |
RT @louisealix68: haven't seen any comments yet related to age.....Aren't adults more motivated because they have chosen to study? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:32 PM |
@louisealix68 I did ask if all this suited to all learners but good u re bringing it up again #ELTchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:33 PM |
@michaelegriffin @Marisa_C Yes, maybe hard to expect Ss to be able to put their vision into words at low levels #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:33 PM |
RT @louisealix68: Personally feel that very different approach required for young teens + tweens. Former not so good at own goals. #eltchat |
| hartle |
12:33 PM |
RT @jo_sayers: @AlexandraKouk yes, nothing worse for motivation than an unrealistic goal! #eltchat Absolutely :-) |
| Marisa_C |
12:33 PM |
RT @louisealix68: Personally feel that very different approach required for young teens + tweens. Former not so good at own goals. #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:33 PM |
I wonder what @kevchanwow can say about these ideas with (perhaps?) lower level SS? #eltchat |
| kevchanwow |
12:33 PM |
Not sure what motivation means or why it's necessary to Jill's model. Short post on Jill's prez: http://t.co/F2Fc6B9RQP #eltchat |
| hartle |
12:34 PM |
#eltchat think I'd better go and watch the video. See you all later. |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:34 PM |
my impression was that we are mostly referring to adults/perhaps young adults - difficult to picture YLs staying still long enough #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
12:35 PM |
howdy -- just wanna say when I was 20 I tried really hard and failed to visualize my self at 30... just nothing... my students? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:35 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: @kevchanwow Motivation is quite the wordy word..> well it looks like the talk had to do with her new book :-D #ELTchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:35 PM |
hello evryone, sorry I'm late but wanted to peak in on a very interesting topic #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:36 PM |
@Marisa_C @michaelegriffin @kevchanwow a definite sales element present #eltchat |
| kevchanwow |
12:36 PM |
@michaelegriffin problem w/ my lowers level high school Ss is their idea of self (let alone ideal self) is so fluid. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:36 PM |
@TomTesol Join the #clueless club #ELTchat :-D |
| Marisa_C |
12:37 PM |
Though to be fair not suggested that this take over syllabus - a presentation t=does tend to magnify things out of proportion #ELTchat |
| louisealix68 |
12:37 PM |
@kevchanwow @michaelegriffin extrinsic motivation tends to be clue at that age ;-( #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
12:37 PM |
:-) LOVE the idea. Haven't done the homework. Which students will benefit from this? In L2. Required unis here will be hit & miss. #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
12:38 PM |
@jo_sayers Love the idea, but I couldn't have done it in or for French. English has diffferent global value, so maybe. #eltchat |
| MattHalsdorff |
12:38 PM |
RT @TJX_ELT: Awareness Workshop: Cultural References http://t.co/bCak39wJEq via @MattHalsdorff #TESL #TEFL #TESOL #ELTchat #edchat #AsiaELT… |
| jo_sayers |
12:38 PM |
@TomTesol but with pics and stuff to help? And relating only to L2 maybe it's easier. #eltchat |
| louisealix68 |
12:39 PM |
@evab2001 @naomishema mine (12 - 24 yrs) are very into drama so no probs expressing selves! #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
12:39 PM |
MT @Marisa_C: Though to be fair not suggested that this take over syllabus - a presentation t=magnify things out of proportion #eltchat |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:39 PM |
10 things we can learn about motivation from Good Guy Greg – part two http://t.co/7iovOYyQiD #eltchat |
| kevchanwow |
12:39 PM |
Personally I think volition, or the sense that one can do something, is a more valuable concept to learning #eltchat |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:39 PM |
10 things we can learn about motivation from Good Guy Greg – part one http://t.co/hdhIX3MxFQ #eltchat |
| evab2001 |
12:39 PM |
@naomishema @louisealix68 it depends. Sometimes they r more reluctant 2 express themselves. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:39 PM |
If I visualise myself as a guru of ELT do u think that will work? Just playing devil's advocate #ELtchat |
| evemarfil |
12:39 PM |
@louiseleakey from @turkanabasin [#Kenia] digs for humanity's origins @TED_TALKS http://t.co/rs1HaaQDqm #history #edchat #edtech #ELTchat |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:40 PM |
10 contemporary motivation theories and how they explain why your students just aren't into it http://t.co/PD4byhbBVm #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:40 PM |
@jo_sayers te he he - brought me up short! #ELTchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:40 PM |
@Marisa_C there's the reality part after the visualisation too remember! #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:41 PM |
What did people think of the results of the Mackay studies with students? #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
12:41 PM |
@louisealix68 I was a theater major -- lived only in the moment. No future ;-) I think I like the process to use selectively. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:41 PM |
@yearinthelifeof wanna join in then rather than just fire links sir? #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:41 PM |
some tools mentioned: role model successful learners /a timeline to vis specific L2 achievements / visual prompts / jigsaw reading #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:42 PM |
@louisealix68 #eltchat I like your points related to age |
| Marisa_C |
12:42 PM |
@jo_sayers can't remember then can u refresh? #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:42 PM |
RT @yearinthelifeof: 10 things we can learn about motivation from Good Guy Greg – part one http://t.co/hdhIX3MxFQ #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:43 PM |
@Marisa_C that motivation dropped for control group, but not for intervention group where it stayed = #eltchat |
| louisealix68 |
12:43 PM |
@michaelegriffin some great books out there on adolescent psychology explain lots of this (one I apprec most = Dutch Evelien Crone) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:43 PM |
recommend downloading JH's ppt - has some really good slides that make a lot of good sense #ELtchat |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:43 PM |
@Marisa_C Just getting warmed up ;-) #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:43 PM |
Learner expectations seem very important when talking about motivation. Many learner need to learn to be personally involved. #eltchat |
| louisealix68 |
12:44 PM |
@jo_sayers @Marisa_C but check out the variables........#eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:44 PM |
@jo_sayers which takes us back to ur original comment - cumbersome demotivates? or not suited to all? #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:45 PM |
@Marisa_C And that intervention group more willing to read and speak in English outside class #eltchat |
| louisealix68 |
12:45 PM |
sorry guys - plumber arrived (ceiling collapsed!).... was short but interesting #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:45 PM |
@Marisa_C The Strategies Rap sounds great! (Slide 41) #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:46 PM |
RT @jo_sayers: @Marisa_C And that intervention group more willing to read and speak in English outside class #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:46 PM |
RT @AlexandraKouk: @Marisa_C The Strategies Rap sounds great! (Slide 41) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:47 PM |
I can't remember the term for it right now - HELP- but isn't it true that if u research Ss and they know it they do better anyway? #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:47 PM |
RT @AlexandraKouk: @Marisa_C The Strategies Rap sounds great! (Slide 41) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:48 PM |
Phew, am back big apologies to @Marisa_C for vanishing. #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:49 PM |
@Marisa_C yes, that you lead them to their answers by the fact your asking them! No idea what the term is! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:49 PM |
So may be the lesson from this is to tell them u re doing stuff for research purposes and they are the subjects? #eltchat |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:49 PM |
@Marisa_C Familiar with this phenomenon... the act of being observed / researched is a form of motivation #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:50 PM |
RT @yearinthelifeof: Sounds like the 'language coach' approach... where do you want to go and how can I help you get there? #eltchat > :-D |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:50 PM |
@jo_sayers Sounds like the 'language coach' approach... where do you want to go and how can I help you get there? #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
12:50 PM |
@jo_sayers ?? Unclear ??? Please help? #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:51 PM |
@TomTesol If your ss know that you are going to ask them qs about motivation, they may give answers you want to hear #eltchat |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:51 PM |
@Marisa_C Tell them you will share your findings with them and base class activities on what you've found - v. effective #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
12:52 PM |
@jo_sayers They certainly will here. And they don't need to be true statements. #eltchat |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:52 PM |
@Marisa_C Duncan Foord has done some v. good work on this - google 'Duncan Foord Language coach' #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:53 PM |
RT @yearinthelifeof: @Marisa_C Duncan Foord has done some v. good work on this - google 'Duncan Foord Language coach' #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:53 PM |
Do we need to talk to our ss about motivation? Can't we just make motivation part of our lessons? #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:53 PM |
@yearinthelifeof yes, and is it realistic and what are the smaller goals that lead to the bigger ones #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:54 PM |
@OUPELTGlobal but it's hard to make it part of lesson without talking about it? #eltchat |
| kevchanwow |
12:54 PM |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: Do we need to talk to our ss about motivation? Can't we just make motivation part of our lessons? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:54 PM |
@OUPELTGlobal Good question #ELtchat But isn't this one of the things Ts ought to do on a kind of automatic pilot? |
| Mo_Americanoid |
12:54 PM |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: Do we need to talk to our ss about motivation? Can't we just make motivation part of our lessons? #eltchat |
| hartle |
12:55 PM |
#eltchat just watched most of the video and was rather disappointed. Looks like glorified needs analysis, I'm afraid. |
| jo_sayers |
12:55 PM |
@Marisa_C @OUPELTGlobal Not if it involves the individual visions and goals of the learner. Then needs some discussion #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:55 PM |
Mapping the Journey: |
| hartle |
12:56 PM |
RT @yearinthelifeof: @Marisa_C Duncan Foord has done some v. good work on this - google 'Duncan Foord Language coach' #eltchat |
| airkomvux |
12:56 PM |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: Do we need to talk to our ss about motivation? Can't we just make motivation part of our lessons? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:56 PM |
@jo_sayers @OUPELTGlobal according to the model we are discussing always - yes! #ELTchat I was talking somewhat more generally |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:56 PM |
@jo_sayers For me focussing on personalisation, brining in their world, making the language a means as well as and end ... #eltchat |
| evab2001 |
12:57 PM |
@louisealix68 @naomishema once i worked with adults working at the same company. Had difficulty with coworkers managers #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:57 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat just watched most of the videowas rather disappointed. Looks like glorified needs analysis, I'm afraid. >how I felt too |
| Shaunwilden |
12:57 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat just watched most of the video and was rather disappointed. Looks like glorified needs analysis, I'm afraid. |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:57 PM |
to me, it sounds like a general motivation technique, adapted to language learning - doesn't mean it won't work at all, though #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
12:58 PM |
@AlexandraKouk Yes, for me it seems to work as a concept (and personally) but important for it not to take over lessons #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:58 PM |
@hartle #eltchat that and some group dynamics stuff I guess |
| Marisa_C |
12:58 PM |
@AlexandraKouk no it doesn't - not at all - just saying it's a somewhat misnamed area (not claiming I am right tho) #Eltchat |
| kevchanwow |
12:58 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat I think more useful for stds to analyse what motivates them "ought to selves" etc. and discuss it together. Peer motiv… |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:58 PM |
@jo_sayers Agree, but then talking about needs, goals and so only talking about motivation indirectly, no? #eltchat |
| hartle |
12:58 PM |
#eltchat I think more useful for stds to analyse what motivates them "ought to selves" etc. and discuss it together. Peer motivation |
| BobK99 |
1:00 PM |
MT @JoHart: @Marisa_C #ELTchat ... if the stimulus was text but no time to watch presos >> Here here, always. :) |
| jo_sayers |
1:00 PM |
@OUPELTGlobal yes, I suppose no need to focus on the effect on motivation, but also might justify the time spent #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
1:00 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: @hartle #eltchat that and some group dynamics stuff I guess > good observation |
| Marisa_C |
1:01 PM |
Well we have reached the end of this one - so one last tweet about what you have learnt in this #ELTchat please? |
| hartle |
1:01 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: @hartle #eltchat that and some group dynamics: yes, i had very demoralised st who was helped a lot by peer support |
| OUPELTGlobal |
1:01 PM |
@jo_sayers good point - sts do like to know why they are doing somethg and it helps them focus #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
1:02 PM |
@Shaunwilden You will have to pay for this by getting the transcript!!! :-D #ELtchat |
| Shaunwilden |
1:02 PM |
@Marisa_C I've learned to switch off my phone before #eltchat starts |
| Marisa_C |
1:03 PM |
Any candidates for the summary please? #ELtchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
1:03 PM |
I'll be looking at the pres again in a new light. Thanks everyone #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
1:04 PM |
That visualisation can be a nice lead in to focus on how to overcome discrepancy between current and desired L2 self #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
1:04 PM |
Tonight's #eltchat is the power of questions - http://t.co/zZfmmM53GF |
| Marisa_C |
1:05 PM |
@aphi_cao Hi! Just type #ELTchat in the search box and save ur search see u in our next one may be? |
| EwaMalicka_ELT |
1:05 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Tonight's #eltchat is the power of questions - http://t.co/zZfmmM53GF |
| jo_sayers |
1:06 PM |
@Marisa_C I'll do it if nobody else has put hand up #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
1:07 PM |
Just reading @kevchanwow blog post after he watched th JH talk - recommeded! http://t.co/YuXduLyJW5 #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
1:08 PM |
@jo_sayers Thanks Jo happy to have you write it #ELTchat @Shaunwilden |
| AlexandraKouk |
1:08 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Just reading @kevchanwow blog post after he watched th JH talk - recommeded! http://t.co/YuXduLyJW5 #ELTchat |
| ELTchat |
1:10 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Tonight's #eltchat is the power of questions - http://t.co/zZfmmM53GF |
| Marisa_C |
1:12 PM |
@kevchanwow May be we do a survey on this ? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
1:12 PM |
Thank you alll for participating - see you tonight on the subject of Teacher Questions #ELtchat |
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