| SueAnnan |
@Marisa_C yes #ELTchat. Did asnyone see Nik Peachey's talk live? |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:00:34 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
Evening all #eltchat. Topic is What are your criteria for evaluating web based tools? |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:00:46 +0000 |
| naomishema |
@SueAnnan I did! #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:00:48 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@SueAnnan I did #ELtchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:00:53 +0000 |
| Notyetlanguage |
@SueAnnan Hello #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:01:01 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C yes, i was near the back of the room, off camera #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:01:01 +0000 |
| ELTchat |
RT @Shaunwilden: Evening all #eltchat. Topic is What are your criteria for evaluating web based tools? |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:01:04 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C yes i did #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:01:11 +0000 |
| Wiktor_K |
Hi all. Definitely lurking today as preparing to travel tomorrow! #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:01:34 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C I'm in a minority then. But I just watched the recording. Thanks Shaun #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:01:50 +0000 |
| naomishema |
The criteria of having the software/app be useful 4 more than one thing is so important! #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:02:26 +0000 |
| Notyetlanguage |
@Wiktor_K Have a nice trip:) #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:02:30 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
Here the criteria Nik showed us on a tricider online polling tool #ELTchat - you can also comment on them later |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:02:32 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
do you think that the tools have to be free? #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:02:33 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
Good afternoon everyone. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:02:34 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@SueAnnan the recording was just fine #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:02:39 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
RT @naomishema: The criteria of having the software/app be useful 4 more than one thing is so important! #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:02:41 +0000 |
| eannegrenoble |
Evening all :-) RT @SueAnnan: @Marisa_C yes #ELTchat. Did anyone see Nik Peachey's talk live? |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:02:45 +0000 |
| LizziePinard |
“@SueAnnan: @Marisa_C yes #ELTchat. Did asnyone see Nik Peachey's talk live?†Yup! |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:03:04 +0000 |
| naomishema |
@Wiktor_K safe journey! #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:03:06 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@SueAnnan No I don't but it does depend on what you get for the money #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:03:17 +0000 |
| hartle |
#eltchat hi everyone, how are you all 2night? |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:03:52 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@Shaunwilden does it matter if you are using- it or your students? #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:03:55 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@Marisa_C Nik's criteria with the current vote - in order of votes 351 days left #ELTchat - https://t.co/JNHlFOqGk8 |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:04:04 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
I think then that if most of us watched it live we might want to discuss Nik's criteria (plus our own on another poll) first #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:04:08 +0000 |
| fionamau |
Can we reach 13,000 #eltpics this week? Not many to go. Current set Prepositions of place/movement http://t.co/DH8XubXP3x #eltchat #esl #efl |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:04:28 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@SueAnnan good point and difference #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:04:37 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
Hi everyone. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:04:43 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
Here is the brainstorming tricider where participants contributed ideas http://t.co/RkvEqaB0GB #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:05:03 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
RT @Marisa_C: Here is the brainstorming tricider where participants contributed ideas http://t.co/RkvEqaB0GB #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:05:15 +0000 |
| hartle |
@SueAnnan #eltchat for stds to use often better, but I look at value for myself. I pay 4 my blog, & as Nik said: free tools disappear |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:05:26 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@Shaunwilden does that mean you would pay, for your own purposes? #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:05:28 +0000 |
| LizziePinard |
RT @Marisa_C: Here is the brainstorming tricider where participants contributed ideas http://t.co/RkvEqaB0GB #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:05:30 +0000 |
| hartle |
RT @Marisa_C: I think then that if most of us watched it live we might want to discuss Nik's criteria (plus our own on another poll) first #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:06:07 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@hartle thanks Sharon #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:06:08 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@hartle @SueAnnan gd point abt free tools disappearing #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:06:32 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
Perhaps we can go through the criteria Nik mentioned, and discuss how important each is to us when choosing apps? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:06:43 +0000 |
| Wiktor_K |
Not sure if "accessibility" in the tricider means the same as "usability" - 2 different things for me, usability super important #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:06:53 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@SueAnnan i do but also for use by my sts or trainees - some apps for example are worth paying for for what we can do with them #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:06:56 +0000 |
| hartle |
@SueAnnan #eltchat :-) |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:07:06 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@Shaunwilden yes I agree. Was just wundrin :-) #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:07:35 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@theteacherjames agreed. do we agree with Nik's criteria? #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:07:36 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@Wiktor_K i see them as different but i agree with you point on usability #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:08:09 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@Wiktor_K Accessibility refers to whether or not it works on multiple platforms (iOs, android, desktop etc) #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:08:26 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@Shaunwilden @SueAnnan I wonder if we know of institutions that will pay for apps if they are worth it? #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:08:36 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
I think Nik's and the other criteria are a great idea but I would tend to create a list from them to suit my teaching situation 1st #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:08:38 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@teacherphili I think it's very thorough, covers most things. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:08:55 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@teacherphili @SueAnnan yes i know some but they are also ones that have sets of tablets #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:09:13 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
All i am saying is not all criteria of equal impotance to every teacher and class #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:09:13 +0000 |
| eannegrenoble |
RT @Wiktor_K: Not sure if "accessibility" in the tricider means the same as "usability" - 2 different things for me, usability super important #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:09:14 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
RT @Marisa_C: All i am saying is not all criteria of equal impotance to every teacher and class #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:09:27 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
RT @Marisa_C: All i am saying is not all criteria of equal impotance to every teacher and class #ELTchat agreed |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:09:31 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
Are we only looking at apps or anything web-based? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:09:36 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@Marisa_C Agreed, but as a general all purpose list, I think it does a good job. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:10:06 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@MarjorieRosenbe i think the criteria apply to both #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:10:07 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@Marisa_C I have to agree with you on that. Not every school has access to either the tech or the funds #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:10:09 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@MarjorieRosenbe i would prefer to talk abt anything web based #ELTchat - not yet able to use apps in my classes |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:10:11 +0000 |
| LizziePinard |
RT @Marisa_C: All i am saying is not all criteria of equal impotance to every teacher and class #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:10:17 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@Shaunwilden @SueAnnan It's becoming more commonplace, it seems, for institutions to invest in sets of tablets #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:10:23 +0000 |
| Wiktor_K |
@theteacherjames In that case I'd add "usability" - good interface rarely remarkable, bad interface = perfect xcuse not to use sth. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:10:29 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
RT @theteacherjames: @Marisa_C Agreed, but as a general all purpose list, I think it does a good job. #eltchat> gr8 starting pt |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:10:30 +0000 |
| naomishema |
Back to mutliple use - if we invest time (gett TS & SS used to app) and maybe money, app better be versatile #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:10:32 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
RT @Wiktor_K: @theteacherjames In that case I'd add "usability" - good interface rarely remarkable, bad interface = perfect xcuse not to use sth. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:10:46 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@Marisa_C @MarjorieRosenbe do you not use yours in class? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:11:13 +0000 |
| Notyetlanguage |
@Marisa_C one of the most important criteria could be that the students are willing to use it and that THEY like it, not only us. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:11:37 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
RT @Notyetlanguage: @Marisa_C one of the most important criteria could be that the students are willing to use it and that THEY like it, not only us. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:11:46 +0000 |
| Wiktor_K |
@naomishema Not sure about versatility every time. How about a great app that does 1 thing brilliantly? A must-have! #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:11:48 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
I upload helpful links to Moodle for sts to work with outside class. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:11:57 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
Is it difficult to find apps that work across all the platform that your students use? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:12:12 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe I use some for Tr training but whole list not relevant to me #ELTchat > parts yes |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:12:14 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@Wiktor_K @naomishema true viktor but versatility has its advantages too :-) #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:12:37 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
There was no mention of the tool (or app) being engaging or motivating for the Ss - goes alongside usability - missing from list. #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:12:41 +0000 |
| naomishema |
@Wiktor_K is righ, wrong choice of word, versaltilty. I meant SS don't "finish" it or get bored with it after one or two uses #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:12:48 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
RT @teacherphili: There was no mention of the tool (or app) being engaging or motivating for the Ss - goes alongside usability - missing from list. #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:13:18 +0000 |
| hartle |
RT @naomishema: Back to mutliple use - if we invest time (gett TS & SS used to app) and maybe money, app better be versatile #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:13:46 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
Most of my sts have bilingual apps on their phones. Means they can independently look up vocab they need. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:13:58 +0000 |
| Wiktor_K |
@naomishema @teacherphili - both great points. That, also, is where good & rich content comes in... #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:14:01 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@Notyetlanguage true #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:14:08 +0000 |
| hartle |
#eltchat for my stds accessibility: both cost and ease of use are essential. |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:14:27 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
I guess pedagogical value, whether tool is pedagogically justified, comes under learning goals + outcomes #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:14:30 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@teacherphili you're right there isn't and there should be :-) #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:14:53 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
I find wikis indispensable myself and satisfying several criteria - #ELTchat including being used by my trainees |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:15:02 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
One st showed me an app on a Mac for vocab but it was only available on a Mac. Apps need to be available to be useful. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:15:28 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@Marisa_C out of interest are there any of the criteria they don't meet? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:15:42 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: One st showed me an app on a Mac for vocab but it was only available on a Mac. Apps need to be available to be useful. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:15:44 +0000 |
| Notyetlanguage |
@teacherphili totally agree #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:15:46 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@MarjorieRosenbe unfortunately, there are still many apps which are not cross platform. #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:16:13 +0000 |
| eannegrenoble |
RT @theteacherjames: Is it difficult to find apps that work across all the platforms? >>I have network security probs :-( #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:16:17 +0000 |
| hartle |
#eltchat tools may be appealing but unless they are really useful and appropriate why wd stds use them? |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:16:17 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@Shaunwilden #ELTchat don't want students to be bored or feel the tool is too much hard work. simple ones work the best, often |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:16:36 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@Shaunwilden #ELTchat - Wikis are not so inviting for communication among trainees I find - tho other tools can be used |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:16:47 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
A colleague gives sts the job of finding useful links and websites and then sharing them with class. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:16:51 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
#ELTchat
My students quite like one-touch wonders |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:17:10 +0000 |
| hartle |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: One st showed me an app on a Mac for vocab but it was only available on a Mac. Apps need to be available to be useful. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:17:11 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@eannegrenoble That must be very annoying. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:17:11 +0000 |
| nfholloway_neil |
@MarjorieRosenbe #ELTchat how useful are bilingual apps? I'd be worried about them promoting laziness. |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:17:27 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@teacherphili esp as motivation is one of the few things that using tech can actually claim as having some real proof :-) #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:17:35 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
FOr interactivity and a great variety of free tools I use wiggio which I also learnt from @NikPeachey - it;s great for adults #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:17:46 +0000 |
| eannegrenoble |
RT @Marisa_C: I find wikis indispensable myself and satisfying several criteria - #ELTchat including being used by my trainees>> me too |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:17:47 +0000 |
| Wiktor_K |
@hartle Apps are ultimate "itch-scratchers" for me - if ss have needitch & app comes along 2 answer it-result. Otherwise-nuisance. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:18:27 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
This looks like it's going to be a grweat swapshop of what we find useful and why so let's do it that way :-) #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:19:06 +0000 |
| billurYWn |
@Marisa_C being userfriendly and encouraging cooperation among the learners in my classes.. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:19:07 +0000 |
| nfholloway_neil |
@MarjorieRosenbe #ELTchat also with bilingual apps and higher levels the translations can be dodgy. I had a problem with this today. |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:19:08 +0000 |
| hartle |
RT @Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden #ELTchat - Wikis are... I find my stds contribute better on thr Facebook page, so I combine blog + Facebook |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:19:09 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
@nfholloway_neil these are dictionaries. Saves me constantly translating. Makes them more independent. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:19:14 +0000 |
| LizziePinard |
@nfholloway_neil @MarjorieRosenbe #eltchat if dodgy translation, suppose at least you could get them to work out how to fix it! :) |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:19:52 +0000 |
| naomishema |
Edmodo is a great example of a tool with an app. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:20:09 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
Audience wrote 'user friendly', 'easy to use', 'pedagogical aim', 'free', 'engaging', 'makes teaching easier', 'produces output' ++ #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:20:16 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@hartle Would encourage you to try Wiggio - it's like a grown up version of Edmodo but with loads more tools - #eltchat amazed it's free |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:20:23 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@hartle @Marisa_C am getting converted by the use of fbk, so many teachers using it with classes now #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:20:28 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@LizziePinard @nfholloway_neil @MarjorieRosenbe but they won't know that the translation is dodgy #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:20:37 +0000 |
| eannegrenoble |
RT @nfholloway_neil: @MarjorieRosenbe #ELTchat how useful are bilingual apps? (...) promoting laziness. Let's leave Google translate out4now |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:20:45 +0000 |
| Wiktor_K |
@naomishema Edmodo saved my @$$ in my previous (DoS) life, so I'm with you on this one! #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:21:05 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
@nfholloway_neil These are mostly in my B1 class. I also give them Cambridge dict link, esp my higher level groups. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:21:27 +0000 |
| naomishema |
FB not allowed in school system here. Does wiggio offfer exercise tools like edmodo? I use with adults! #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:21:27 +0000 |
| nfholloway_neil |
@MarjorieRosenbe #ELTchat fair enough just had a problem with 'vicious' coming up as 'sinful' earlier. I prefer monolingual with egs |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:21:49 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@naomishema but surely it is allowed outside of school? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:22:16 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
Nik makes a good point about free apps. Are you worried that they might start charging after you've become reliant on them? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:22:17 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
What other tools do you find that satisfy most of the criteria you use? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:22:27 +0000 |
| naomishema |
@Shaunwilden noone could stop fb outside of school. ss use it on their phones in class! ts can't use it #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:22:57 +0000 |
| LizziePinard |
@SueAnnan @nfholloway_neil @MarjorieRosenbe #eltchat raise awareness that it could be by flagging a bad and getting them to work on it? |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:23:00 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
Anyone know Vicki Hollett's one-minute videos? My sts get one a week with the worksheet. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:23:03 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@theteacherjames he kept mentioning the 'business model' - won't stay free forever or they might just simply disappear #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:23:07 +0000 |
| RoyWoodhouse |
@theteacherjames Which free apps are the best to help with teaching? #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:23:17 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@naomishema so it could still be used by a class then #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:23:41 +0000 |
| nfholloway_neil |
@SueAnnan #eltchat that's my point. & why I prefer monolingual dictionaries |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:24:18 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@RoyWoodhouse teaching what? #ELTchat Do you need lesson plans or tools to self generate material? |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:24:20 +0000 |
| Notyetlanguage |
@Marisa_C we use this simple https://t.co/P1UOVygANO - it has many other uses apart from storage:) #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:24:35 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
Free tools that I find indispensable: skydrive, dropbox, screencastomatic, You Tube Channel, just for starters #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:24:48 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@RoyWoodhouse Funny you should mention that, here's my guide to my to my favourite iPad apps: http://t.co/7vqgTygCCK :-) #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:24:52 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
@teacherphili @theteacherjames There are other ways to monetize besides paying for it...though they may be worse #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:24:55 +0000 |
| hartle |
@Wiktor_K agreed :-) #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:25:02 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
RT @teacherphili: @theteacherjames he kept mentioning the 'business model' - won't stay free forever or they might just simply disappear #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:25:06 +0000 |
| Wiktor_K |
@theteacherjames For "free"/"owned" debate, this book is great: http://t.co/II56orQsL7 - no such thing as free content online, imo. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:25:13 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@Notyetlanguage what other uses ? Do share #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:25:16 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
Audience put 'voicethread', 'blurp', 'storywheel', 'Jing', 'Socrative', 'glympse', 'Evernote', 'Edmodo', 'Voki', 'Photobabble' +more#ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:25:18 +0000 |
| OztrkOzge |
@theteacherjames personally I am #eltchat also losing the documents that i uploaded |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:25:26 +0000 |
| RoyWoodhouse |
@theteacherjames Thanks Pal... I will check it out now! :) #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:25:47 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@teacherphili That's always the risk, although most have a premium model which makes their business model clear. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:25:56 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
RT @theteacherjames: @teacherphili That's always the risk, although most have a premium model which makes their business model clear. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:26:08 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
Nice little open source alternative to Box/dropbox etc is openCloud but you do need your own serve for that #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:26:11 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@MrChrisJWilson @theteacherjames like finding the app or tool starts to include advertising. It creeps in then becomes too much #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:26:23 +0000 |
| web20education |
Watch #LIVE on #tcdisrupt #startup Battlefield Final http://t.co/0pnZBjLjTB … #edchat #ntchat #cpchat #tlchat #lrnchat #eltchat #elemchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:26:29 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
Evernote is truly fantastic ! #eltchat agree! |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:26:39 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
@teacherphili @theteacherjames The adblocker plugin for chrome is very good for removing ads #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:26:56 +0000 |
| LizziePinard |
RT @Marisa_C: Evernote is truly fantastic ! #eltchat agree! <---yup!! |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:27:00 +0000 |
| naomishema |
RT @Marisa_C: Evernote is truly fantastic ! #eltchat agree! |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:27:05 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
RT @Marisa_C: Evernote is truly fantastic ! #eltchat agree! |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:27:06 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@Marisa_C esp if used with its family of apps like sketch #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:27:07 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
The danger of the web is when sts illegally download a book instead of buying it. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:27:15 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C esp if used with its family of apps like sketch #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:27:19 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@RoyWoodhouse Check out @Shaunwilden's blog too: http://t.co/QdTxRBdhHk #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:27:26 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@theteacherjames @teacherphili even the premium model can disappear eg.Jingpro #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:27:29 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@theteacherjames it's true that a lot of decent apps have different levels, inc. free ver. As long as it's not Adobe Connect ur ok #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:27:33 +0000 |
| nfholloway_neil |
On the fb debate if used properly it can be really useful for sts and teachers #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:27:44 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@Marisa_C damn autocorrect, skitch #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:27:53 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@Marisa_C i haven't started using Evernote yet. Is it really that good? #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:28:22 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@Shaunwilden what does skitch do? #ELTChat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:28:26 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@teacherphili @Marisa_C quite simply ,yes :-) #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:28:41 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
@teacherphili @Marisa_C it's my second brain #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:28:55 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@Notyetlanguage I would suggest wiggio then where you can also upload files and do chats etc #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:28:57 +0000 |
| startups_rt |
RT @web20education: Watch #LIVE on #tcdisrupt #startup Battlefield Final http://t.co/0pnZBjLjTB … #edchat #ntchat #cpchat #tlchat #lrnchat #eltchat #elemchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:28:57 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@SueAnnan lets you annotate on photos #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:28:58 +0000 |
| hartle |
@Marisa_C just downloaded Wiggio, I'd never seen it before :-) Thnx #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:29:04 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@Wiktor_K Agreed, just watched an interview with Lanier, interesting guy. You are paying somehow. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:29:06 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C I must start using it then. thx #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:29:07 +0000 |
| Wiktor_K |
@teacherphili the more you use it, the better it gets. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:29:16 +0000 |
| nfholloway_neil |
@MarjorieRosenbe don't I just know that! But that's another story #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:29:16 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
I also assign my BE sts the quote of the week on PEO (CUP website) to read every week. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:29:17 +0000 |
| naomishema |
RT @Wiktor_K: @teacherphili the more you use it, the better it gets. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:29:26 +0000 |
| Notyetlanguage |
@Marisa_C http://t.co/PHfbbUTjha Ss and Ts can upload, mail each other, share links to doc. with anybody or just the members #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:29:41 +0000 |
| aadil_ennia |
I do everything with WordPress. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:30:10 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
RT @Wiktor_K: @theteacherjames For "free"/"owned" debate, this book is great: http://t.co/II56orQsL7 - no such thing as free content online, imo. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:30:10 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@OztrkOzge How annoying! We must always have a back up, and a back up to the back up. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:30:22 +0000 |
| hartle |
#eltchat i resisted fb 4 stds for a long time, but now find tht really useful for large numbers, a variety of uses http://t.co/viXPhwmHUS |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:30:51 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@theteacherjames @RoyWoodhouse Ta James, am doing a webinar on apps in a couple of weeks #eltchat http://t.co/T6bKYTmpzP |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:30:52 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
RT @Shaunwilden: @theteacherjames @RoyWoodhouse Ta James, am doing a webinar on apps in a couple of weeks #eltchat http://t.co/T6bKYTmpzP |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:30:59 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@theteacherjames someone told me that if you don't have it stored in 3 places, it isn't secure #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:31:09 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
BTW Posterous is gone as of today :-( #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:31:09 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
a note on Apps that have ads. They drain batteries of devices more as well. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:31:36 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
Does anyone use Moodle? I find it really helpful. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:31:43 +0000 |
| hartle |
@teacherphili #eltchat like anything else, depends wht U use it for. I find it gr8t 4 notetaking and sharing. |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:32:01 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
The ability to integrate the tool into lessons, rather than become the focus of it. #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:32:08 +0000 |
| nfholloway_neil |
@aadil_ennia #ELTchat how do you use wordpress? |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:32:31 +0000 |
| Wiktor_K |
Two of my favourites - IFTTT and Zapier - connecting web apps together 2 form triggers/responses - easy sharing between services. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:32:39 +0000 |
| RoyWoodhouse |
@theteacherjames thanks for the link
#ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:32:46 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@SueAnnan And I would say three different types of place (e.g 1 in the cloud, 1 on an external HD, 1 on portable device) #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:32:48 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@MarjorieRosenbe we use moodle for @NikPeachey ;s course ICT4ELT and ELTM but not for regular communication #Eltchat - do you? |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:33:12 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@hartle yeah, I'm going to start using my iPad for all kinds of things i think, starting with Evernote #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:33:17 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@theteacherjames yes. sorry I wasn't precise #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:33:21 +0000 |
| RoyWoodhouse |
@Shaunwilden I really appreciate it, I'll be sure to check it out... I've been so swamped im looking for ways to make life easier! #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:33:29 +0000 |
| Notyetlanguage |
@Marisa_C I'll try wiggio...but http://t.co/7Jn1QpXZrS is for the whole school - would wiggio be suitable for that? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:33:35 +0000 |
| eannegrenoble |
My guys love making reading comp questions on Google forms for each other.... #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:33:41 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@theteacherjames @SueAnnan think i've got my stuff in 1 and a half places #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:34:07 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@SueAnnan Most people think three different HD's will be enough, but I had 2 of them die at the same time! #nightmare #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:34:11 +0000 |
| hartle |
#eltchat whatever is used has to be accessible to everyone so apple only apps are often limiting. |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:34:12 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@Notyetlanguage yes and you can have groups and subgroups #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:34:13 +0000 |
| OztrkOzge |
@theteacherjames @sueannan #eltchat as posterous is gone by today, luckily they had informed us |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:34:31 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@theteacherjames same thing happened to my daughter :-( #ELTChat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:34:40 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@teacherphili @SueAnnan Uh oh Phil, here comes trouble… #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:34:44 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@teacherphili agreed though with some apps focus is on what the tool can do so it a juggling act e.g. some storytelling apps #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:34:46 +0000 |
| Notyetlanguage |
@Marisa_C I like http://t.co/7Jn1QpXZrS because you get info when sb.opens a doc. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:35:46 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
have we decided the most imp criteria? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:36:05 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
RT @Notyetlanguage: @Marisa_C I like http://t.co/5TDzfSWzEi because you get info when sb.opens a doc. #eltchat > Moodle does that as well |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:36:07 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
@Shaunwilden @teacherphili apps can also be a prompt for teaching language and digital litteracies not just a tool to teach #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:36:08 +0000 |
| hartle |
@Wiktor_K #eltchat how do you use Ifttt and Zapier? |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:36:14 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
@Marisa_C @NikPeachey I write out what we did in class & the homework & upload links. Sts who miss class always know what happened. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:36:18 +0000 |
| aadil_ennia |
@nfholloway_neil #eltchat Making educational websites. There are plugins for everything. |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:36:51 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
RT @Wiktor_K: Two of my favourites - IFTTT and Zapier - connecting web apps together 2 form triggers/responses - easy sharing between services. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:36:53 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@MrChrisJWilson @teacherphili agreed take for example a sts explaining a game or how an app works #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:36:55 +0000 |
| Notyetlanguage |
@Marisa_C Thx #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:36:58 +0000 |
| Wiktor_K |
@Shaunwilden One more: ownership! Who owns app / content / contributions? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:37:02 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@MrChrisJWilson @Shaunwilden Nik did mention digital literacy and whether it [the tool/app] develops Ss DL #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:37:09 +0000 |
| naomishema |
most important that the tool help us teach and not just look cool! #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:37:20 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@Wiktor_K @Shaunwilden a student asked me this just yesterday :-) #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:37:45 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
The thing that always worries me is losing content - like posterous disappearing on the whim of twitter #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:37:57 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
@teacherphili @Shaunwilden confession...with internet problems I haven't had a chance to watch the talk :( took 20 mins to join #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:38:08 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
@Marisa_C they did give warning and the ability to download information. At least we didn't wake up and it was gone! still a shame #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:38:49 +0000 |
| nfholloway_neil |
#ELTchat what other non-ELT materials do people use? |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:38:52 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@Shaunwilden For me it's pedagogic value. It's got to have teaching value. After that, usability. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:39:00 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
In my research last year, out of 107 responses, 'easy of use' + 'being relevant to language skills' came up top, followed by 'free' #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:39:07 +0000 |
| Notyetlanguage |
@Marisa_C many people don't like Moodle and we had some problems with it in the other school where I taught #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:39:21 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
RT @teacherphili: In my research last year, out of 107 responses, 'easy of use' + 'being relevant to language skills' came up top, followed by 'free' #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:39:43 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
@Marisa_C Advantage of Moodle- everything stays there for whole semester. Also the emails to sts. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:39:54 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
@theteacherjames @Shaunwilden I'd put usability first. If the students can't use it then it doesn't matter how good it is #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:39:55 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@teacherphili Exactly what I just said! #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:40:03 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
RT @teacherphili: In my research last year, out of 107 responses, 'easy of use' + 'being relevant to language skills' came up top, followed by 'free' #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:40:22 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@MrChrisJWilson @Shaunwilden But some apps they don't use, I use. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:40:29 +0000 |
| MadameMoodle |
RT @Marisa_C: The thing that always worries me is losing content - like posterous disappearing on the whim of twitter #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:40:57 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
@theteacherjames true. But if you can't use it ;) #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:41:03 +0000 |
| Wiktor_K |
@teacherphili First two are great, "free" is...problematic. Whether it's time, $ or attention, there's always a price. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:41:12 +0000 |
| naomishema |
@MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C Moodle ishard 2 learn & not as attractive 2 students. at IATEFL lots of TS were scared by talk on moodle #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:41:31 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@theteacherjames someone wrote 'andragogically justified'. think they were trying to be clever. #ELTchat #research |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:41:38 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@ESLhiphop which tool is that? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:41:40 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
@Wiktor_K @teacherphili or your personal information #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:41:58 +0000 |
| hartle |
#eltchat appropriacy is definitely important. I was thinking of using Issuu 4 ezine for adult grp but in end 4 thm Pages + PDFs better. |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:42:01 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@eflteacheruk follow hashtags like mlearning, ipaded and so on they are more general education but a good source #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:42:02 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@teacherphili @theteacherjames they could have said 'good for adults' - show off! #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:42:22 +0000 |
| RoyWoodhouse |
Does anyone recommend any sites with great games to play with the students are the tenses they work with? #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:42:54 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@hartle appropriacy is def imp. - why was issuu not better? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:43:04 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@naomishema I went to a talk on Moodle where the poor presenter's server was down. It was embarrassing for him too. #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:43:12 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@Marisa_C thx for sparing me the need to link to a definition #androgogy #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:43:22 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
@naomishema @Marisa_C I learned Moodle in 15 min but only use basics. Sts also find it structures lessons & hw. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:43:41 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
@SueAnnan @naomishema oh the joys of server problems #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:43:56 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
RT @eannegrenoble: @MarjorieRosenbe The sts are responsible 4 doing that on our class wiki #ELTchat (hashtag!) |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:44:00 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@MrChrisJWilson Chris, I can always use it… ;-) #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:44:11 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@Marisa_C @teacherphili That's the word I can never remember! #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:44:43 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
@theteacherjames didn't doubt it but some of us aren't as skilled as you James #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:45:03 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@theteacherjames @teacherphili I can (because, of course, it;s Greek! :-D ) #Eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:45:12 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@MrChrisJWilson If only that were true :-D #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:45:29 +0000 |
| hartle |
RT @MrChrisJWilson: @Marisa_C they did give warning... #eltchat yes I've lost content when tools like Sketchcast have disappeared. |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:45:40 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
@Marisa_C @eannegrenoble I assume I use Moodle like a wiki which we dont have. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:45:50 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@Marisa_C @teacherphili :-D The long words normally are! #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:46:07 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@Marisa_C @theteacherjames ha ha so it is http://t.co/QHvkX9LfCx #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:46:18 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
@theteacherjames @Marisa_C @teacherphili or latin #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:46:27 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@MrChrisJWilson @theteacherjames @teacherphili I beg your pardon????? #ELtchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:46:54 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
Shall we get back on track! #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:47:22 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
@hartle @Marisa_C there's no guarantee with even a paid service though, the business could go bankrupt, just need to back up :( #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:47:49 +0000 |
| hartle |
RT @naomishema: @MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C Moodle was really innovative whn 1st introduced, but I now find it limiting: boxy #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:47:52 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
RT @Shaunwilden: Shall we get back on track! #eltchat > you are right we are going app and tool happy - told ya - a swap shop |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:47:53 +0000 |
| hartle |
@MrChrisJWilson how do you back up a Sketchcast? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:48:49 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@hartle @naomishema @MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C i still love it great for online courses #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:48:50 +0000 |
| RoyWoodhouse |
@Marisa_C Which sites do you suggest for activity ideas with the students? #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:48:53 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@hartle @naomishema @MarjorieRosenbe me too - unless for a course i prefer other platforms - but good for scheduled content #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:49:08 +0000 |
| naomishema |
at manchester airport they had ads 4 their app "don't worry, be appy". should have taken a pic... #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:49:24 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
@hartle @naomishema @Marisa_C It does what I need and sts learn to check what they need to do. But I only use basics. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:49:48 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@RoyWoodhouse well Roy our topic today is abt tools and apps not good sites for activities #ELTchat :-) but if you check out #ELtchat .cont |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:50:08 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
We touched on price at the beginning, but would you ask the students to download a paid app? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:50:24 +0000 |
| eannegrenoble |
#ELTchat 'fraid I'm suffering 2 much trying 2 use hoot suite on my eyepad - I'll love u & leave u :-) |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:50:34 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
taught a lesson on time today using the world clock app. it was really cool and more interesting than other methods #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:50:42 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@RoyWoodhouse ...#ELTchat summary page will lead you to loads of posts choc-a-bloc with ideas for activities |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:50:45 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
@hartle I have no idea, never used it but there "should" be a way. If not then that's just bad practice #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:50:48 +0000 |
| hartle |
RT @Marisa_C: @hartle @naomishema @MarjorieRosenbe me too - ...but good for scheduled content #eltchat yes I agree :-) |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:50:50 +0000 |
| naomishema |
RT @theteacherjames: We touched on price at the beginning, but would you ask the students to download a paid app? #eltchat NO! |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:50:53 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@theteacherjames depends but i wouldn't rule it out #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:51:08 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@theteacherjames depends on context, if you think they've got the money and the school won't pay for it, maybe #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:51:11 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@naomishema Never? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:51:27 +0000 |
| Notyetlanguage |
@teacherphili @Marisa_C @theteacherjames in Croatia we have 'andragogues' working at ed. institutions for adults #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:51:35 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
depends on student #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:51:39 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@RoyWoodhouse http://t.co/mkZQucoSJQ #ELTchat Summaries - a wealth of links and great stuff |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:51:47 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@Shaunwilden What would make you decide either way? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:52:02 +0000 |
| naomishema |
RT @theteacherjames: @naomishema Never? #eltchat at school, not allowed, adults pay a fortune for course. not to me, of course! |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:52:02 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
@theteacherjames You could buy promo codes for the students of course #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:52:03 +0000 |
| hartle |
@theteacherjames #eltchat I show stds apps that have to be paid for like Longman Dic. & then leave it to them |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:52:04 +0000 |
| Wiktor_K |
@theteacherjames (this from a publishing perspective) yes,if the app was worth paying for."Free"not as good criterion as "value" #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:52:10 +0000 |
| RoyWoodhouse |
@Marisa_C That's great Marisa. In fact I really want to bring more apps into the classroom and I'm investing in an IPAD
#ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:52:15 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
@theteacherjames yes you personally james, for everyone #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:52:21 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@Notyetlanguage @teacherphili @theteacherjames u mean as opposed to 'pedagogues' #ELTchat - which why term coined by Carl Rogers |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:52:23 +0000 |
| naomishema |
RT @hartle: @theteacherjames #eltchat I show stds apps that have to be paid for like Longman Dic. & then leave it to them |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:52:30 +0000 |
| RoyWoodhouse |
@Marisa_C Thanks for the heads up on the website though #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:52:32 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@theteacherjames if you ask them to pay it MIGHT be discriminatory, just like accessibility - all Ss would need equal access #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:53:02 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@naomishema I understand that, you'd try to find another way? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:53:06 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
One of my fave iPad Apps is Educreations #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:53:09 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
RT @MrChrisJWilson: @theteacherjames You could buy promo codes for the students of course #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:53:11 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
RT @hartle: @theteacherjames #eltchat I show stds apps that have to be paid for like Longman Dic. & then leave it to them |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:53:16 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
did we determine OUR criteria then? #ELTChat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:53:19 +0000 |
| idc74 |
@theteacherjames Would you ask them to buy a book? If not, then I'd suggest not asking to buy an app. Just recommend maybe? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:53:21 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
RT @Wiktor_K: @theteacherjames (this from a publishing perspective) yes,if the app was worth paying for."Free"not as good criterion as "value" #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:53:24 +0000 |
| hartle |
@MrChrisJWilson #eltchat they are screen capture films of doodles with voiceovers, lovely...you're right. It was bad practice :-(( |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:53:32 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@MrChrisJWilson Apps for all! #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:53:49 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
RT @SueAnnan: did we determine OUR criteria then? #ELTChat > no criteria is being completely ignored in this chat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:53:49 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@theteacherjames purpose, student(s), long term use. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:53:58 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @SueAnnan: did we determine OUR criteria then? #ELTChat > no criteria is being completely ignored in this chat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:54:07 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@Wiktor_K Excellent point. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:54:07 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
RT @teacherphili: @theteacherjames if you ask them to pay it MIGHT be discriminatory, just like accessibility - all Ss would need equal access #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:54:21 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@SueAnnan 1) Pedagogical value (inc Learning outcomes etc) 2) Easy of Use 3) Accessibility #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:54:23 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
RT @idc74: @theteacherjames Would you ask them to buy a book? If not, then I'd suggest not asking to buy an app. Just recommend maybe? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:54:32 +0000 |
| Notyetlanguage |
@Marisa_C @teacherphili @theteacherjames YES, 'andragogue' as opposed to 'pedagogue', all Open Universities have them #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:54:43 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
@idc74 @theteacherjames schools recommend and buy books for students...why not apps? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:54:54 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@teacherphili @SueAnnan if schools are buying they can get discounts for bulk etc sp all can have #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:55:03 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
RT @MrChrisJWilson: @idc74 @theteacherjames schools recommend and buy books for students...why not apps? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:55:06 +0000 |
| hartle |
#eltchat thnx for a really stimulating chat everyone! I just have to go and try out Wiggio immediately... Night night. |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:55:36 +0000 |
| Wiktor_K |
@SueAnnan Relevance to need / Usability / Value / Ownership. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:55:43 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
RT @Wiktor_K: @SueAnnan Relevance to need / Usability / Value / Ownership. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:55:50 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
Think we need to put up own poll on Tricider - #ELTchat's alternative (but quite similar) list of criteria. Or we could just comment on Niks |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:55:51 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@MrChrisJWilson @idc74 Great point. At some point they'll be indistinguishable from each other. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:55:56 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
I use anything that I find useful and easy to use. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:56:05 +0000 |
| Wiktor_K |
RT @MrChrisJWilson: @idc74 @theteacherjames schools recommend and buy books for students...why not apps? ->exactly. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:56:08 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@hartle am sure you ll love it - it just worries me that there is no paid up version of it #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:56:22 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@Wiktor_K @SueAnnan I'd add accessibility to your list #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:56:27 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
RT @Wiktor_K: RT @MrChrisJWilson: @idc74 @theteacherjames schools recommend and buy books for students...why not apps? ->exactly. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:56:42 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@Wiktor_K @MrChrisJWilson @idc74 @theteacherjames yup, there is always a budget somewhere for these things #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:56:44 +0000 |
| nfholloway_neil |
@hartle #eltchat you would do the same with a book, so why not with apps? |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:56:50 +0000 |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
Falling asleep so about to quit. Night all. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:57:04 +0000 |
| idc74 |
@MrChrisJWilson @theteacherjames If they recommend books, then I agree this could also be apps. All just resources. #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:57:09 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@nfholloway_neil @hartle in principle, apps are cheaper than books IMO #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:57:32 +0000 |
| Wiktor_K |
@teacherphili ...hopefully there's a budget :) #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:57:35 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
Is anyone interested in writing the post that mentions how we forgot all about the criteria? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:58:02 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
We'd APPreciate a summary writer #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:58:21 +0000 |
| Notyetlanguage |
@theteacherjames apps are the future of education #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:58:22 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@Shaunwilden haha, very punny #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:58:39 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
RT @Shaunwilden: We'd APPreciate a summary writer #eltchat > clever!!!! |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:58:44 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
For what it's worth, here's my favourite app: http://t.co/72QC7AzQHe #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:59:07 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Could do it if it can wait a few days #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:59:35 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
Who'd like to APPly themselves to the summary writing job? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 20:59:54 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@SueAnnan @Shaunwilden For you - of course!!! Star #ELTchat blogger! |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:00:14 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
if you have a have app that helps you as a teacher or you use with classes can you tweet me, am collecting them for a talk #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:00:31 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
and here's my research into teachers' autonomy when it comes to learning web tools http://t.co/wI5YWJB34Y #ELTchat only 144 pages! |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:00:32 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden I'd be APPy to do it, but got a few other things to get organised first #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:00:50 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@teacherphili light reading, in other words... #ELtchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:00:54 +0000 |
| idc74 |
@SueAnnan @nfholloway_neil @hartle Often hidden costs with apps though. In-app purchasing becoming the norm. Plus cost of device! #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:00:55 +0000 |
| MrChrisJWilson |
YAY finally made an #eltchat again :D |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:01:02 +0000 |
| Wiktor_K |
Well, that was refreshing. Thanks all, see you around! #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:01:14 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C do you have enough spare time? #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:01:21 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
Before you rush off, be sure to have a look at our new #eltchat blog challenge: http://t.co/elKGYal5dW |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:01:33 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@Wiktor_K See ya, have a good trip #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:01:34 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
RT @theteacherjames: Before you rush off, be sure to have a look at our new #eltchat blog challenge: http://t.co/elKGYal5dW |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:01:41 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
RT @theteacherjames: Before you rush off, be sure to have a look at our new #eltchat blog challenge: http://t.co/elKGYal5dW |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:01:46 +0000 |
| LizziePinard |
#eltchat thanks all! v interesting chat tonight. |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:01:57 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C yes. One course to finish, one to start, meal for 50 Morris men to prepare- then free weekend :-) #ELtchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:02:04 +0000 |
| ELTchat |
RT @theteacherjames: Before you rush off, be sure to have a look at our new #eltchat blog challenge: http://t.co/elKGYal5dW |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:02:04 +0000 |
| theteacherjames |
@MrChrisJWilson Good to see you here Chris! #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:02:14 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
@SueAnnan yes i saw that pic earlier - no comment! Goodnight all #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:02:35 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@SueAnnan @Shaunwilden aren't u up for a badge upgrade?? #eltchat :-) |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:02:38 +0000 |
| naomishema |
Good night all #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:02:44 +0000 |
| Shaunwilden |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C time on your hands then :-) #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:02:54 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden No Idea #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:03:05 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
@SueAnnan @Shaunwilden u have to count them #eltchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:03:56 +0000 |
| teacherphili |
Right, back to my job APPlication. #ELTchat #willworkforfood |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:04:43 +0000 |
| SueAnnan |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden and put them on the spreadsheet :-) #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:04:52 +0000 |
| Marisa_C |
Well, I don't know if we fulfilled our brief but @NikPeachey would be happy to join a future chat when he is a bit better #ELTchat |
Wed, 01 May 2013 21:04:59 +0000 |
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