| username |
date |
time |
status |
| bnleez |
17/4/2013 |
1:56 P.M. |
#ELTchat » #ELTchat is back (and there’s been a change) http://t.co/G5gGowfOV1 |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:01 P.M. |
well it's 12 BST so #eltchat time |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:02 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden Am here! #ELTchat kick off time! :-) |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:02 P.M. |
Hi everyone. My computer seems to be sympathising with me being ill and is also not working very well. Will do my best. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:03 P.M. |
@MarjorieRosenbe Oh sorry to hear you're ill - post IATEFL blues? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:04 P.M. |
@MarjorieRosenbe Oh no poor you :-( #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:04 P.M. |
Anyone else up to discussing the Six Abilities for Competent teachers? #eltchat read about them here http://t.co/gH0sP8T10h Quick though!!! |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:04 P.M. |
I'm here but I've got one eye on St. Paul's!! #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:04 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden Spent weekend with friends after IATEFL and caught a chill in the rain-turned into bronchitis - not fun. #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:05 P.M. |
Did watch the plenary earlier though, so I think I'm up to speed! #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:05 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden Thanks for sympathy - now just need to get myself some tea. #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:06 P.M. |
Point about learning another lanugage - I give my sts tips on how I learned German to help them develop strategies for English. #eltchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:06 P.M. |
#eltchat hi everyone, as promised I'm back :-) Unfortunately my 2 sprained ankles have broken bones in them too :-(( |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:06 P.M. |
@worldteacher Well done :-) What did you think of it? #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:07 P.M. |
RT @hartle: #Eltchat I thought teachers needed hundreds of abilities!! |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:07 P.M. |
@Marisa_C Have watched the condensed version in Nik's interview - I'm ready! #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:07 P.M. |
@hartle Poor you! #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:07 P.M. |
@hartle I sympathise - at least bronchitis can be dealt with fairly quickly. Rest and get better soon. #eltchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:07 P.M. |
#Eltchat I thought teachers needed hundreds of abilities!! |
| adi_rajan |
17/4/2013 |
2:07 P.M. |
are we talking about how relevant these attributes are? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:07 P.M. |
Good lord! #ELTchat is really not well today! |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:07 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden Agreed with all of the six, except number 4! - in my context in Vietnam, anyway. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:08 P.M. |
RT @adi_rajan: are we talking about how relevant these attributes are? #ELTchat > yes and how to go about them I guess |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:08 P.M. |
@MarjorieRosenbe Yes - anecdotes about how the teacher learned a second language can really motivate students! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:08 P.M. |
@adi_rajan Yes, how relevant they are, if you agree that sort of thing :-) #eltchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:08 P.M. |
RT @worldteacher: @hartle Poor you! #eltchat@worldteacher :-)) at least I can come to eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:08 P.M. |
@worldteacher I dont agree with four either #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:09 P.M. |
#eltchat Hi everyone, sorry for late arrival- will try and catch up :) |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:09 P.M. |
#Eltchat I know lots of gd teachers who don't teach in other subject matters. |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:09 P.M. |
@MarjorieRosenbe Teaching another subject in English #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:09 P.M. |
@MarjorieRosenbe @worldteacher Teach English in at least one subject area. #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:09 P.M. |
RT @worldteacher: @MarjorieRosenbe Yes - anecdotes about how the teacher learned a second language can really motivate students! #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:09 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden @worldteacher Agree that is difficult - here too, as Ts are generally compartmentalised #eltchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:09 P.M. |
#eltchat hmm, yes, not so sure abt number 4 either |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:09 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden @worldteacher could you reemind me what 4 is - switching to another program may mean a crash. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:10 P.M. |
RT @hartle: #Eltchat which do you think is the most important, if there is one? thats a tricky ? |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:10 P.M. |
@cioccas @Shaunwilden And the reason he gave - that sts won't need general Eng by the time they reach tertiary level - not true #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
17/4/2013 |
2:10 P.M. |
RT @teflerinha: #eltchat Hi everyone, sorry for late arrival- will try and catch up :) -> same here :-D |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:10 P.M. |
#Eltchat which do you think is the most important, if there is one? |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:10 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden @worldteacher Oooh, those two are quite different I think! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:10 P.M. |
1/ Make constant and effective changes ; do you think this is possible for every teacher? I am not sure it is #ELTchat - how cd it be done |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:11 P.M. |
@Marisa_C #eltchat I don't think constant and effective changes have to be big ones, tweaks can be just as effective- maybe more. |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:11 P.M. |
@Marisa_C #Eltchat not sure about the constant change, but some change is necessary and an openess to what is going on around you |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:11 P.M. |
@worldteacher Have done this often - it gives another perspective absolutely necessary, not sure. BE teachers do this all the time. #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:11 P.M. |
@Marisa_C 1/ Isn't that reflecting and changing based on experience? #ELTchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:12 P.M. |
RT @teflerinha: @Marisa_C #eltchat I don't think constant and effective changes have to be big ones, tweaks can be just as effective- ma ... |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:12 P.M. |
RT @teflerinha: @Marisa_C #eltchat I don't think constant and effective changes have to be big ones, tweaks can be just as effective- Agree! |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:12 P.M. |
@Marisa_C Sorry, only listened to the summary version :-) #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:12 P.M. |
@cioccas @Marisa_C I would say so. #eltchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:12 P.M. |
RT @teflerinha: @Marisa_C #eltchat I don't think constant and effective changes have to be big ones, tweaks can be just as effective- ma ... |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:12 P.M. |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @Marisa_C Might leave out the 'constant' and just say 'effective' #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:12 P.M. |
@Marisa_C Might leave out the 'constant' and just say 'effective' #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:12 P.M. |
@cioccas i think he means innovation & change at curriculum level #ELTchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:13 P.M. |
@teflerinha @Marisa_C I think we tweak all the time if we're engaged in reflective practice. #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
17/4/2013 |
2:13 P.M. |
RT @hartle: @Marisa_C #Eltchat not sure about the constant change, but some change is necessary and an openess to what is going on aro ... |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:13 P.M. |
@Marisa_C Thanks for getting us organised and starting with number 1! #ELTchat |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:13 P.M. |
@worldteacher @Marisa_C #eltchat isn't it also about constantly asking ourselves if anything needs to change? |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:13 P.M. |
@worldteacher @cioccas @Shaunwilden Agree that this is not true. I teach 3 B1 classes at university level and they are packed. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:13 P.M. |
@worldteacher @cioccas agreed I think this conclusion is perhaps the effect of a limited pool of research #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:14 P.M. |
@cioccas well, no one else wants to do it my way - u re all moderators today :-) #ELTchat |
| EducationSITC |
17/4/2013 |
2:14 P.M. |
Does ADA Promote Discrimination? http://t.co/arRXEv8a9Z #ntchat #eltchat #physicsed #edu |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:14 P.M. |
As ppl have said I think constant changes are often made, albeit small ones #ELTchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:14 P.M. |
RT @worldteacher @teflerinha @Marisa_C I think we tweak all the time if we're engaged in reflective practice. #eltchat <Yes! |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:14 P.M. |
RT @hartle: @Marisa_C #Eltchat not sure about the constant change, but some change is necessary and an openess to what is going on aro ... |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:14 P.M. |
RT @worldteacher: @teflerinha @Marisa_C I think we tweak all the time if we're engaged in reflective practice. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:14 P.M. |
@cioccas @Marisa_C she is a good organiser :-) #ELTchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:15 P.M. |
@Marisa_C Dealing with them one by one seems like a god idea to me! #ELTchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:15 P.M. |
#Eltchat life wd be very boring without changes |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:16 P.M. |
@hartle @cioccas learning another language #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:16 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Good idea! Or perhaps I meant Goddess idea :-) #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:16 P.M. |
Introducing changes is advocated by many - last year I think also Adrian Underhill (???) gave a talk about it #ELTchat |
| BobK99 |
17/4/2013 |
2:16 P.M. |
RT @teflerinha: #eltchat Hi everyone, sorry for late arrival- will try and catch up :) > Beat you! I've been around, but not tuned in. :) |
| AlexandraKouk |
17/4/2013 |
2:16 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden what sort of changes are we talking about though? #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:16 P.M. |
@cioccas @Marisa_C That'll be the power going to her head #ELTchat |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:16 P.M. |
RT @cioccas: @Marisa_C Dealing with them one by one seems like a god idea to me! #ELTchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:16 P.M. |
@cioccas #Eltchat yes, I agree what was number 2? |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:17 P.M. |
RT @adi_rajan: I think the real question is not whether change is good but why many teachers can't or won't commit to change #ELTchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:17 P.M. |
#eltchat I think learning another language is essential. If you don't U have no idea wht is involved as a learner. |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:17 P.M. |
@AlexandraKouk @Shaunwilden Good question. I often look for new ways to do things - often on the spot. #eltchat |
| adi_rajan |
17/4/2013 |
2:17 P.M. |
I think the real question is not whether change is good but why many teachers can't or won't commit to change #ELTchat |
| NewsNeus |
17/4/2013 |
2:17 P.M. |
RT @Marisa_C: Anyone else up to discussing the Six Abilities for Competent teachers? #eltchat read about them here http://t.co/gH0sP8T10 ... |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:17 P.M. |
@AlexandraKouk When I watched the plenary I took it mean in my practice #ELTchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:18 P.M. |
RT @Shaunwilden: @hartle but i've never been much good at learning languages #ELTchat That's OK the important thing is to try! |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:18 P.M. |
@hartle Agree! And don't we all know teachers who teach the same thing the same way year after year? #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:18 P.M. |
@hartle but i've never been much good at learning languages #ELTchat |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:18 P.M. |
@Marisa_C #eltchat Think we always need to look afresh at stuff, and not get caught in sunk cost fallacy |
| BobK99 |
17/4/2013 |
2:18 P.M. |
@Marisa_C #ELTchat Constant change bothers me. (NOT changing's worse though!) |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:19 P.M. |
I've never learned another language beyond intermediate level, but have learnt several at an elementary level - very useful #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:19 P.M. |
I used an example in German yesterday to explain why you couldn't say something in English. #eltchat Not sure it came across however. |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:19 P.M. |
RT @cioccas: @hartle Agree! And don't we all know teachers who teach the same thing the same way year after year? #ELTchat Yes we do!! |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:19 P.M. |
RT @worldteacher: @Shaunwilden @hartle Me, neither - but it still gives me an insight into the problems my sts are having! #eltchat Exactly |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:19 P.M. |
I was surprised when I studied TESOL at uni how many students had NEVER tried to learn another language! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:19 P.M. |
@BobK99 it is worrying - but changes have to be for a reason, reflectively and systematically - change for the sake of change? #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:19 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden @hartle Me, neither - but it still gives me an insight into the problems my sts are having! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:20 P.M. |
@hartle why did it disappear? I regularly teach Turkish on the first day of our CELTA - or Greek or French, depending on the grp #ELtchat |
| BobK99 |
17/4/2013 |
2:20 P.M. |
RT @teflerinha: @worldteacher @Marisa_C #eltchat isn't it also about constantly asking ourselves if anything needs to change? >I agree |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:20 P.M. |
@BobK99 @Marisa_C #eltchat Agree- can be overdone. Constant restructuring, for example, can be very counter-productive. |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:20 P.M. |
#Eltchat I used to like foreign language lesson in CELTA then it disappeared. I t was a really memorable way to start |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
2:20 P.M. |
#eltchat Just viewed the podcast. I see a link of future of ELT with embracing systems thinking as ped: multi faceted http://t.co/FOZguaAQpP |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:21 P.M. |
I look at student evaluations to see what needs to change. Try to address these in the next semester. #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
17/4/2013 |
2:21 P.M. |
RT @cioccas: @Marisa_C Thanks for getting us organised and starting with number 1! #ELTchat > Is that the point of one topic over two chats? |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:21 P.M. |
@Marisa_C #eltchat Yes, agreed, especially wholesale change. |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:21 P.M. |
RT @Marisa_C: @hartle why did it disappear? #ELtchat Because our centre decided it was outdated... I was outvoted :-(( |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:21 P.M. |
@teflerinha Also YLs can find constant change very upsetting - their world needs anchors #ELTchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:21 P.M. |
@hartle Yes - mine was in Greek - can't remember any of it now, though! #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:21 P.M. |
@hartle #eltchat I still think Foreign Lang lesson very useful in CELTA- great for trainees to experience being a beginner |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:21 P.M. |
@hartle Disappear? Until I stopped being a tutor it was always the first session #ELTchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:22 P.M. |
@BobK99 @Marisa_C I think that's just the point to try to keep us focussed on one thing at a time #ELTchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
17/4/2013 |
2:22 P.M. |
So #1 could be rephrased: constantly reflect on your practices and be open to changes? #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
2:22 P.M. |
@MarjorieRosenbe Gr8 if EFL teacher is EFL learner 2. It facilitates shared exp. As a mono ling spker & expat I recogn challenge. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:22 P.M. |
THe notion of the teacher as a change agent is an important one in all educational contexts #eltchat but often not adhered to |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:22 P.M. |
Explaining difficulties in learning German establishes rapport with my sts. Invaluable teaching tool for me. #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:22 P.M. |
From IATEFL interview: learning another language puts you in the position of a learner -> better interaction with learners #ELTchat |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:23 P.M. |
@worldteacher @hartle #eltchat I can still remember my Japanese, from, ahem, nearly 24 years ago. |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:23 P.M. |
RT @AlexandraKouk: So #1 could be rephrased: constantly reflect on your practices and be open to changes? #eltchat Nicely put |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:23 P.M. |
RT @AlexandraKouk So #1 could be rephrased: constantly reflect on your practices and be open to changes? #eltchat <That's the way I see it |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:23 P.M. |
@AlexandraKouk #eltchat Like it put that way. |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:23 P.M. |
RT @AlexandraKouk: So #1 could be rephrased: constantly reflect on your practices and be open to changes? #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:24 P.M. |
In a multilingual classroom it's great to know a little of a lot of other languages to understand some of possible difficulties #ELTchat |
| Charlesrei1 |
17/4/2013 |
2:24 P.M. |
Me 2 "@MarjorieRosenbe Explaining difficulties in learning German establishes rapport with my Ss. Invaluable teaching tool for me. #eltchat" |
| AlexandraKouk |
17/4/2013 |
2:24 P.M. |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @AlexandraKouk Sounds good to me - maybe add: try out different ideas #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
17/4/2013 |
2:24 P.M. |
RT @Marisa_C: @AlexandraKouk We could - perhaps add - or "Seek change for the sake of development and not for the sake of change" #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:24 P.M. |
@AlexandraKouk Sounds good to me - maybe add: try out different ideas #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:24 P.M. |
@AlexandraKouk We could - perhaps add - or "Seek change for the sake of development and not for the sake of change" #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:25 P.M. |
RT @hartle: #Eltchat I find awareness of other languages really helps me to see where my learners are coming from. |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:25 P.M. |
Change also needs to be balanced with structure. Some sts do not react well to constant change. Depends on learning style. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:25 P.M. |
2/ learn and Speak at least one other language ! I like that one -and we have covered it pretty well - shall we move on to No 3??? #ELTchat |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:25 P.M. |
@cioccas #eltchat I agree, much better actually than knowing one very thoroughly. |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:25 P.M. |
#Eltchat I find awareness of other languages really helps me to see where my learners are coming from. |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:25 P.M. |
@Marisa_C @AlexandraKouk Love it! 'That nails it. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:26 P.M. |
Number three ebing : Teach less to maximize learning. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:26 P.M. |
@MarjorieRosenbe ...gd point - and age! #eltchat YLs need routines |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
2:26 P.M. |
@cioccas Agreed. Lithuania is my 4th, country of non-Eng dominant residence. I hve a limited Ru, Kz, Tk & Lth. I am frustrad evyday #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:26 P.M. |
@Marisa_C Yes, let's move on :-) #ELTchat |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:26 P.M. |
@Marisa_C #eltchat yes, but remind me, what's number 3? |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:26 P.M. |
RT @Marisa_C: - shall we move on to No 3??? #ELTchat yes |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:27 P.M. |
@Marisa_C #eltchat Yes, that is my favourite too! |
| AlexandraKouk |
17/4/2013 |
2:27 P.M. |
RT @Marisa_C: 2/ ...- shall we move on 2 No 3??? #ELTchat > Teach less or speak less? (or does it mean teach less content?) |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:27 P.M. |
RT @Marisa_C: 3/ Teach less to maximize learning. - I really like this one #ELTchat - basis of demand high as well as 'LESS iS MORE!!!" |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:27 P.M. |
RT @Marisa_C: 3/ Teach less to maximize learning. - I really like this one #ELTchat - basis of demand high as well as 'LESS iS MORE!!!" |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:27 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden I like number 3 - it's something I've been advocating with my teachers. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:27 P.M. |
3/ Teach less to maximize learning. - I really like this one #ELTchat - basis of demand high as well as 'LESS iS MORE!!!" |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:27 P.M. |
anyone have an example of how to teach less? Less t talking time? #eltchat More sts discovery? |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:27 P.M. |
RT @cioccas: 3/ Teach less to maximise learning #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
17/4/2013 |
2:28 P.M. |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @cioccas: 3/ Teach less to maximise learning #eltchat > Tell that to the DOS! |
| Charlesrei1 |
17/4/2013 |
2:28 P.M. |
3) 4 my adult learners, the hunt is more engaging than being fed. #eltchat |
| kevchanwow |
17/4/2013 |
2:28 P.M. |
Hi all, just reading through the past tweets, great dialogue going. Sorry to be late. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:28 P.M. |
@AlexandraKouk @Marisa_C I interpret that as more space for sts for discovery, practice etc #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:28 P.M. |
@Marisa_C Absolutely. Also some adults. #eltchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:28 P.M. |
#Eltchat the TTT issue comes a lot. I think we shd be aiming for QTT (Quality Talking Time) |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:28 P.M. |
@MarjorieRosenbe Less instructional role and more time for discovery? Fewer activities but done well? #Eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:29 P.M. |
@Marisa_C Exactly. Thks for putting it so well. #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:29 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden @AlexandraKouk @Marisa_C Yes - gived sts more responsibility for their own learning. #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
17/4/2013 |
2:29 P.M. |
RT @Marisa_C: I oftn observe classes choc-a-block w/ smal piddly little bytes of ths & that - no time 4 Ss 2 process or prep or use #Eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:29 P.M. |
@BobK99 So what are the barriers the DOS is putting up? And what can we do about it? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:29 P.M. |
I wish people would respect the #eltchat chat times and not make random post- they have all week for that |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:29 P.M. |
I often observe classes choc-a-block with smal piddly little bytes of this and that - no time for Ss to process or prep or use #Eltchat |
| kevchanwow |
17/4/2013 |
2:29 P.M. |
RT @hartle: #Eltchat the TTT issue comes a lot. I think we shd be aiming for QTT (Quality Talking Time) |
| adi_rajan |
17/4/2013 |
2:29 P.M. |
Whether or not it develops my empathy for learners, chinese continually astounds me with its rigid teaching methodology #ELTchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:29 P.M. |
RT @Charlesrei1: 3) 4 my adult learners, the hunt is more engaging than being fed. #eltchat |
| kevchanwow |
17/4/2013 |
2:30 P.M. |
Helping students recognize that they can learn kind of demands the spotlight be on the learner and what they do. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:30 P.M. |
@jankenb2 nice point abt cognitive load - well put #ELTchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:30 P.M. |
RT @hartle ... #Eltchat Precisely so what we need is quality in the classroom and time 2 learn< Agree!! |
| Charlesrei1 |
17/4/2013 |
2:30 P.M. |
Dscvry also reinforces the side-effect skills of collaboration, mutual support, and control over self-development in my BE context #eltchat |
| adi_rajan |
17/4/2013 |
2:30 P.M. |
Maybe it also means encouraging more informal learning #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:30 P.M. |
@worldteacher @Shaunwilden @AlexandraKouk @Marisa_C So more learner autonomy? #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:30 P.M. |
RT @Shaunwilden: I wish people would respect the #eltchat chat times and not make random post- they have all week for that |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:30 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden @AlexandraKouk @Marisa_C #eltchat Yes, that's my interpretation- get them to do more of the work. |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:30 P.M. |
RT @Marisa_C: I often observe classes choc-a-block with ... #Eltchat Precisely so what we need is quality in the classroom and time 2 learn |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
2:30 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden Gr8 advice & it's backed by solid research on learning science. We recogn cog load. Deeper lrning leads to mastery.#eltchat |
| kevchanwow |
17/4/2013 |
2:31 P.M. |
But not sure i like the idea that all of this isn't teaching...it very much is teaching. The best kind in fact. #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
17/4/2013 |
2:31 P.M. |
Many Ts still feel guilty if there is even a short stretch of silence in class perhaps? They aren't "doing" anything #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
17/4/2013 |
2:31 P.M. |
@Marisa_C #Eltchat ' piddly little bytes of this and that...' - I didn't know you were hiding in the stationery cupboard :) |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:31 P.M. |
#Eltchat the teacher can be more than just a facilitator tho' Stds love to know abt their teacher |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:31 P.M. |
@MarjorieRosenbe @worldteacher @AlexandraKouk @Marisa_C perhaps,more guidance rather than actual instruction? #eltchat |
| Charlesrei1 |
17/4/2013 |
2:31 P.M. |
RT @hartle: #Eltchat the TTT issue comes a lot. I think we shd be aiming for QTT (Quality Talking Time) |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:31 P.M. |
RT @kevchanwow: Helping students recognize that they can learn kind of demands the spotlight be on the learner and what they do. #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:31 P.M. |
RT @kevchanwow: Helping students recognize that they can learn kind of demands the spotlight be on the learner and what they do. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:32 P.M. |
@MarjorieRosenbe more autonomy does not mean no guidance; means also fully exploiting activities - opposite of grasshopper effect! #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:32 P.M. |
Tried to do that this week as I taught two days ill - difficult in the Austrian culture. Sts need to be trained I think. #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
17/4/2013 |
2:33 P.M. |
MT @cioccas: @BobK99 So what are the barriers the DOS is putting up?... #eltchat >Bit of a red-herring. I misintepreted. |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:33 P.M. |
@Marisa_C Agree - guidance needs to be there but they need to take responsibility for themselves. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:33 P.M. |
@BobK99 lol - this didn't sound nice - sorry!!! #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:33 P.M. |
RT @kevchanwow: But not sure i like the idea that all of this isn't teaching..it very much is teaching. The best kind in fact. #eltchat Yes! |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:33 P.M. |
RT @kevchanwow: But not sure i like the idea that all of this isn't teaching...it very much is teaching. The best kind in fact #eltchat>Yes! |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:34 P.M. |
@BobK99 No worries, thought we could help you sort it out here on #eltchat :-) |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:34 P.M. |
@BobK99 @cioccas DOSes always want coursebook exercises in big doses - #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
2:34 P.M. |
@cioccas @hartle Yes Aiming 4 Ss use of novel utterances- regardless of grammar errors, is impt & gd indicator of lang proficiency #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:35 P.M. |
RT @Marisa_C: @BobK99 @cioccas DOSes always want coursebook exercises in big doses - #eltchat I like the crafting of that tweet :-) |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:35 P.M. |
@Marisa_C @BobK99 So glad I teach where I do - none of that where I am! :-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:35 P.M. |
RT @Charlesrei1: Perhaps the key skill is knowing when to "teach", when to "guide", when to "question" and when to "leave space" #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:35 P.M. |
RT @Charlesrei1: Perhaps the key skill is knowing when to "teach", when to "guide", when to "question" and when to "leave space" #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
17/4/2013 |
2:35 P.M. |
RT @Charlesrei1: Perhaps the key skill is knowing when to "teach", when to "guide", when to "question" and when to "leave space" #eltchat |
| Charlesrei1 |
17/4/2013 |
2:35 P.M. |
Perhaps the key skill is knowing when to "teach", when to "guide", when to "question" and when to "leave space" #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
2:36 P.M. |
@MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C Self-regulated lrning principles prevail here. How much ownership of content is allowed & at wht age/gd? #eltchat |
| kevchanwow |
17/4/2013 |
2:36 P.M. |
I also think giving space for learners to be the pro, to stand firmly on their own islands of competence is related as well #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:36 P.M. |
@cioccas u are blessed but why u teach where u teach is not just a coincidence #ELTchat @BobK99 |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:36 P.M. |
RT @adi_rajan: Some learners are reacting against hands off teaching environments demanding more explicit instruction #ELTchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:36 P.M. |
#Eltchat the question of silence is even more difficult n online teaching, as you asks tds to do smthg & imagine they've all gone off ! |
| adi_rajan |
17/4/2013 |
2:36 P.M. |
Some learners are reacting against hands off teaching environments demanding more explicit instruction #ELTchat |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:37 P.M. |
@adi_rajan #eltchat I'm all in favour of explicit instruction, but it's about when, and how and how much. |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:37 P.M. |
RT @jankenb2: @MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C Self-regulated lrning principles prevail here. #eltchat True, but learner expectations problematic |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:37 P.M. |
@Marisa_C @BobK99 @cioccas Luckily not where I work. #eltchat Emphasis on communication. |
| fatihyucelelt |
17/4/2013 |
2:37 P.M. |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @cioccas: 3/ Teach less to maximise learning #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
17/4/2013 |
2:38 P.M. |
RT @Marisa_C: No 4/ Teach English in at least one subject area. - Most ppl don't like this one but we often do it anyway I think #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:38 P.M. |
@teflerinha @adi_rajan Me too but i also agree that some sts expect it all the time #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:38 P.M. |
@Marisa_C I guess you're right - I worked hard to get a job there and it was a big part of my initial motivation to do TESOL! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:38 P.M. |
No 4/ Teach English in at least one subject area. - Most ppl don't like this one but we often do it anyway I think #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
2:39 P.M. |
@hartle @MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C Y. As an ed I value balanced curric of voc/usage/pron etc. But as consumer Ss want test mastery #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:39 P.M. |
@Marisa_C I get an opportunity to do a bit of this at my VET (FE) college - it does give me a different perspective #eltchat |
| adi_rajan |
17/4/2013 |
2:39 P.M. |
@Marisa_C what does really mean? ESP? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:39 P.M. |
hello? #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:40 P.M. |
@Marisa_C #eltchat no.4 Does he/do we mean English for a particular purpose rather than 'General English'? |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:40 P.M. |
@Marisa_C Like I mentioned, happens all the time in Bus E - finance English, banking English etc. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:40 P.M. |
@adi_rajan may be tho ESP Ss know their subject matter - but e.g. I teach my interm Ss how to use a wiki #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
17/4/2013 |
2:41 P.M. |
RT @adi_rajan: @Marisa_C what does really mean? ESP? #eltchat >Eng for Special Purposes. But did the plenary mean diff. ESPs, or diff lvls? |
| Charlesrei1 |
17/4/2013 |
2:41 P.M. |
4) I'd say a range of non-ELT subject knowledge gives more authentic depth to lesson and allows Ts to create more relevant lessons #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
17/4/2013 |
2:41 P.M. |
@teflerinha for me, this definitely has a CLIL flavour :-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:41 P.M. |
@teflerinha i think he means English as in CLIL or teaching other subjects thru English #Eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:41 P.M. |
@Marisa_C Great CLIL activities on the market - sts often enjoy these - suited to different levels & interesting. #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:41 P.M. |
@adi_rajan @Marisa_C No - his point was that there'll be no need for general Eng as sts reach proficiency at a younger age #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:42 P.M. |
@Marisa_C @teflerinha he was saying we need to maximise our teaching opportunities by being able to teach sth other than Eng #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
2:42 P.M. |
Dr. Liu spoke of lingua franca & the rights of Ss to demand Eng taught as EFL, not US or BA. I agree, but academic Eng is still key #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:42 P.M. |
@adi_rajan @Marisa_C Either ESP or CLIL I would think. #eltchat Or any specialised language. |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:42 P.M. |
RT @Marisa_C: @teflerinha i think he means English as in CLIL #Eltchat Yes I thought it was a ref to CLIL |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:43 P.M. |
@worldteacher Ignore that last one, think I got confused :-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:43 P.M. |
@cioccas @worldteacher u may or may not be - smtms u teach content if Ss pragmatic knowledge is lacking #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:43 P.M. |
@worldteacher Is that somehting Ts are in control of though? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:44 P.M. |
I have taught Modern Greek - but I don't think this is what Jun Liu was alluding to #eltchat but I may have got it wrong |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:44 P.M. |
Definitely don't agree that need for general English diminishes - have been in adult ed here for 32 years-sts still ask for it. #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:44 P.M. |
#eltchat People seem to understand no.4 in different ways..but certainly think wider perspective is good. |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:44 P.M. |
@adi_rajan Me too - here in Vietnam we're certainly not going to run out of gen Eng teaching opportunites in my lifetime! #eltchat |
| kevchanwow |
17/4/2013 |
2:44 P.M. |
Over-teaching result of thinking we know what Ss need to learn? class has to have an assessment component, space for negotiation. #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:45 P.M. |
Expanding what we can offer is positive - is this what was meant? #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:45 P.M. |
Move on to number 5 maybe? #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:45 P.M. |
RT @teflerinha: #eltchat People seem to understand no.4 in different ways..but certainly think wider perspective is good. |
| BobK99 |
17/4/2013 |
2:45 P.M. |
@adi_rajan Excuse egg-sucking advice - I misread! #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:45 P.M. |
@cioccas Good - I thought it was me who'd missed something! :-) #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
2:46 P.M. |
@cioccas Each of the six points is worthy of an hour of discourse. I am enjoying the comments very much... #eltchat |
| Charlesrei1 |
17/4/2013 |
2:46 P.M. |
In BE there is a fine line between #elt and #clil often crossed by publishers and Ts who over-emphasize theory. #besig #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:46 P.M. |
@worldteacher @adi_rajan Also not in Austria even though many had 8 years of English at school. #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
17/4/2013 |
2:46 P.M. |
Perhaps Ts could acquire some sort of cross-curricular teaching skills through #4? #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:46 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden Is this the one where he was talking about technology? #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
2:46 P.M. |
@worldteacher @Marisa_C @teflerinha Eng w/in sub content is gd path 4 success. It reduces stress on perf, making & Eng a tool #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:46 P.M. |
No 5 is Facilitating oneself with new learning and teaching modes. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:47 P.M. |
RT @cioccas: @Shaunwilden Is this the one where he was talking about technology? #eltchat Yes the need to keep up with sts |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:47 P.M. |
@jankenb2 Yes thats why we are having the same topic at both #eltchat today :-) |
| adi_rajan |
17/4/2013 |
2:47 P.M. |
No 5 and no 6 seem to be referring to the same issue. #ELTchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:47 P.M. |
@cioccas @Shaunwilden Yes - keeping up with our digital native students #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:47 P.M. |
@jankenb2 Me too! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:47 P.M. |
will troll please stop his boring and repetive garblespeak - no one is paying the slightest attention #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:48 P.M. |
And…"teachers need to multitask themselves to keep up with learners" #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:48 P.M. |
RT @cioccas: I liked his comments: "technology is inevitable… you can't avoid that" #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:48 P.M. |
RT @cioccas: I liked his comments: "technology is inevitable… you can't avoid that" #ELTchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:48 P.M. |
I liked his comments: "technology is inevitable… you can't avoid that" #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:48 P.M. |
RT @adi_rajan: No 5 and no 6 seem to be referring to the same issue. #ELTchat > no ! different points! |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:49 P.M. |
@adi_rajan Seem different for me - 5 is in classroom and 6 what they do when they leave. Did I get this wrong? #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:49 P.M. |
@textivate All info for #eltchat on the blog here: http://t.co/G7fNmFrdZ2 |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
2:49 P.M. |
@worldteacher @cioccas @Shaunwilden My idea on tech 4 all instruction is that it is a tool. We must keep use in balance with goal. #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:49 P.M. |
RT @cioccas: I liked his comments: "technology is inevitable… you can't avoid that" #ELTchat > Love it! :-) |
| textivate |
17/4/2013 |
2:49 P.M. |
What's the topic for #eltchat ? |
| kevchanwow |
17/4/2013 |
2:50 P.M. |
Ss don't see technology as set apart from daily life. If you can't integrate it into the classroom, class feels more artificial #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
17/4/2013 |
2:50 P.M. |
Does "new learning and teaching modes" refer exclusively to tech? What about new approaches and techniques? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:50 P.M. |
@MarjorieRosenbe @adi_rajan no Marjorie u got this very right!!!! #eltCHAT |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:50 P.M. |
@textivate we're talking about Jun Liu's plenary at #IATEFL #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:50 P.M. |
@jankenb2 @worldteacher @Shaunwilden Definitely! #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:51 P.M. |
@AlexandraKouk Yes, new approaches and techniques too I think! Innovate! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:51 P.M. |
@AlexandraKouk No 5 doesn't have to be about new tech exclusively - new modes of learning and teaching #eltchat |
| Charlesrei1 |
17/4/2013 |
2:51 P.M. |
5) I thnk refers to Ts flxibilty to adpt to Ss, even in a grp. How can 1 mthd apply to all prferences, expctations, styles, etc? #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:51 P.M. |
@worldteacher @cioccas @Shaunwilden Or getting those digital natives to teach us. #eltchat |
| MikeMwalker |
17/4/2013 |
2:51 P.M. |
Pronunciation learning has just got real with the best software out there - Saundz is live! Try it out! http://t.co/p1beHFcQO9 #ELTchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:51 P.M. |
@MarjorieRosenbe No - I think you got it absolutely right! #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
2:52 P.M. |
@worldteacher @cioccas model use of tech to "off load" lang load of lrning & use. eg: e-translators, vodcasts, blogs, enhanced vis #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:52 P.M. |
@Marisa_C @adi_rajan thanks - head feels like it is stuffed with cotton so I am not so sure about much today. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:52 P.M. |
@MikeMwalker As i said earlier I wish people would respect the #eltchat chat times and not make random post- they have all week for that |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:52 P.M. |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @worldteacher @cioccas @Shaunwilden Or getting those digital natives to teach us. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:53 P.M. |
RT @hartle: #Eltchat new models cd mean going back to old ones and then reintegrating them into our world |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:53 P.M. |
#Eltchat new models cd mean going back to old ones and then reintegrating them into our world |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:53 P.M. |
RT @cioccas: @jankenb2 @worldteacher Which segues nicely into point Number 6! #eltchat - which is Ensure learning outside the classroom. |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:53 P.M. |
Had sts work together to analyse CAE task yesterday - new for me & effective for them I hope. #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:53 P.M. |
@jankenb2 @worldteacher Which segues nicely into point Number 6! #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
2:54 P.M. |
Number 6 is really important - especially when sts don't naturally get any exposure to English outside the classroom. #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:54 P.M. |
RT @hartle: #Eltchat new models cd mean going back to old ones and then reintegrating them into our world |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:54 P.M. |
@hartle Links to number 1 about effective changes - yes? #Eltchat |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:54 P.M. |
@hartle #eltchat Agreed. |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:55 P.M. |
@AlexandraKouk Thanks! #Eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:55 P.M. |
RT @Marisa_C: @worldteacher No 6 is pointing to maximizing learner autonomy too #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
17/4/2013 |
2:55 P.M. |
RT @cioccas: Links 2 number 1 abt effective changes #Eltchat > exactly! hre's the Adrian Underhill talk abt change http://t.co/htyzewqutw |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:55 P.M. |
RT @Marisa_C: @worldteacher No 6 is pointing to maximizing learner autonomy too #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
17/4/2013 |
2:55 P.M. |
@worldteacher #eltchat Yes, it's vital, and the main reason why my French is still rubbish even though I have an A level... |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:55 P.M. |
In teacher training always reminded ts to search around in their tool boxes as ideas fall to bottom and don't get used. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:55 P.M. |
@worldteacher No 6 is pointing to maximizing learner autonomy too #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:55 P.M. |
5 minutes to go on #ELTchat, any ideas for 6/ "Ensure learning outside the classroom."? |
| Charlesrei1 |
17/4/2013 |
2:55 P.M. |
I was a bit disappointed by approach "labeling" at #iatefl. Ts need 2 be comfortable using various methods, incld tech/non-tech #eltchat |
| kevchanwow |
17/4/2013 |
2:55 P.M. |
RT @hartle: #Eltchat new models cd mean going back to old ones and then reintegrating them into our world |
| ETprofessional |
17/4/2013 |
2:56 P.M. |
@Charlesrei1 I totally agree, Charles. We should never throw the baby out with the bathwater. #eltchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:56 P.M. |
RT @cioccas: @hartle Links to number 1 about effective changes - yes? #Eltchat yes absolutely |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:56 P.M. |
@BobK99 lol #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
2:56 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden @cioccas @worldteacher How? Give assignts that req references frm Eng only sites, or creating voice clip of req 4 info #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:56 P.M. |
Engaging sts is frist step for me to get them to do s.th. outside the classroom. I offer links and ideas. #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
17/4/2013 |
2:56 P.M. |
RT @cioccas: 5 minutes to go on #ELTchat, any ideas for 6/ "Ensure learning outside the classroom."? > hard for a cntrl freak like me! |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:56 P.M. |
#Eltchat doing an inventive dictation exercise, for instance by using Voicethread http://t.co/0zePylpRpi |
| adi_rajan |
17/4/2013 |
2:56 P.M. |
If this means learning thats not teaching or language related then I am all for it Inspiration for innov comes from unlikely places #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:57 P.M. |
@ETprofessional S'ok you can join in tonight instead ;-) #eltchat its the same topic |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:57 P.M. |
#Eltchat autonomy is where technololgy comes into its own if well scaffolded to help learners constructively |
| Charlesrei1 |
17/4/2013 |
2:57 P.M. |
6) Difficult to add motivation the S doesn't have in first place. Goal is rather to channel and harness exsting intrinsic drive. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
2:57 P.M. |
@ETprofessional @Charlesrei1 I dont think that was what he was saying though was he? #eltchat |
| ETprofessional |
17/4/2013 |
2:57 P.M. |
Apologies for being super late for #eltchat : ( -Chia |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:57 P.M. |
My university has a tandem program - sts are paired with an NS of another language and they spend time together talking. #eltchat |
| kevchanwow |
17/4/2013 |
2:58 P.M. |
in an EFL environment, if we don't help & support Ss find/ use resources outside class, they can't learn the Lang. It's our job. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
2:58 P.M. |
@hartle good integration of these points true #eltchat |
| Collaborative |
17/4/2013 |
2:58 P.M. |
ERIC DB provides over 24,954 hits for Accountability http://t.co/HcPm5FPlpX What Matters Most http://t.co/u9ERZ8NBFL #eltchat #edchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
17/4/2013 |
2:58 P.M. |
Any sort of group research project type of work could help with /6? #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
2:58 P.M. |
RT @hartle: #Eltchat autonomy is where technololgy comes into its own if well scaffolded to help learners constructively |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
2:58 P.M. |
#eltchat He said 2 develop college ready writing skills 2. I worked with faculty in Tk & writing for Eng pub was their gr8est need. #eltchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:58 P.M. |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: Engaging sts is frist step for me to get them to do s.th. outside the classroom. I offer links and ideas. #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:58 P.M. |
Tandem program works well because it is peer-to-peer and they can do as much or little as they chose. #eltchat |
| Charlesrei1 |
17/4/2013 |
2:59 P.M. |
@kevchanwow agree 100% #eltchat |
| jennifer_collie |
17/4/2013 |
2:59 P.M. |
RT @IsilBoy: The Use and Abuse of Technology in the Classroom http://t.co/Z9PpretN #edtech #ELTchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
2:59 P.M. |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: Which is yr university Marjorie? #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
2:59 P.M. |
I also assign topics they need to research & report on - last one was difference between language and dialect. #eltchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
3:00 P.M. |
#Eltchat even little things like developing classroom discussins further via Facebook helps. |
| ETprofessional |
17/4/2013 |
3:00 P.M. |
@Charlesrei1 @Shaunwilden I had that same feeling 2. As u said, lots of putting down other approaches. Was going to blog abt that. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
3:00 P.M. |
@Charlesrei1 @ETprofessional I think its been that way for while now but sensible tchrs make the best of everything #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
3:01 P.M. |
RT @hartle: #Eltchat even little things like developing classroom discussins further via Facebook helps. |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
3:01 P.M. |
@hartle University of Graz, Austria. #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
3:01 P.M. |
@Marisa_C @hartle Let's apply the "flipped classroom" pedagogy here. Provide a gd list of Eng-only sites & offer variety of key ?s #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
3:01 P.M. |
Remember we are discussing the same topic at 21 BST tonight so if you are still awake then please come and continue :-) #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
3:02 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden Do you want a summary writer? Won't be up for the late one at 3am, but happy to read transcript & summarise both. #eltchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
3:02 P.M. |
RT @jankenb2: @Marisa_C @hartle #eltchat I think gd EFL teaching has already been flipping the classroom for years :-)) |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
3:02 P.M. |
@hartle Sharon, you're sparkling as brightly as ever, despite the broken ankles :-) #Eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
3:02 P.M. |
@jankenb2 Flipped classroom principles may not be possible for all but various permutations can be introduced moving towards this #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
17/4/2013 |
3:02 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden thanks Shaun, will try. #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
3:03 P.M. |
RT @kevchanwow: #eltchat that was such a free ranging and fascinating cat. Happy to hear so many opinions. Thanks to the moderators for ... |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
3:03 P.M. |
@worldteacher @Marisa_C we're just discussing that since we're having the same topic so thanks for offering :-) #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
3:03 P.M. |
@worldteacher @Shaunwilden You're amazing Andrea! #eltchat |
| kevchanwow |
17/4/2013 |
3:03 P.M. |
#eltchat that was such a free ranging and fascinating cat. Happy to hear so many opinions. Thanks to the moderators for a smooth ride. |
| BobK99 |
17/4/2013 |
3:03 P.M. |
RT @AlexandraKouk: Any sort of group research project type of work could help with /6? #eltchat > Some Ss hate that - othrs don't pul thr wt |
| jo_sayers |
17/4/2013 |
3:04 P.M. |
I wonder if number 2 is really necessary. Helpful, yes, but maybe smt related to motivating learners would be better #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
3:04 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C You're welcome - I've got a 3-day weekend coming up so I need something to do! :-) #eltchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
3:04 P.M. |
@cioccas #Eltchat thnx Lesley, but actually I'm not :-(( IN quite a lot of pain, and frustrated!! Stds rioting too..... |
| AlexandraKouk |
17/4/2013 |
3:04 P.M. |
Feeling so energised after another great #eltchat - Thank you all :-D |
| Shaunwilden |
17/4/2013 |
3:04 P.M. |
Thanks for joining us we'll announce next week's topic at the weekend, see some of you tonight, good to be back :-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
3:04 P.M. |
@kevchanwow gd to have u here Kevin and all contributors #eltchat - hope you liked the new ideas we are trying out |
| Charlesrei1 |
17/4/2013 |
3:04 P.M. |
@Shaunwilden @ETprofessional I agree... but I stll sense a futile search for the "one best way". It drives #elt, but hnders many Ts #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
3:05 P.M. |
@hartle Well, an even more amazing effort then! #Eltchat |
| ETprofessional |
17/4/2013 |
3:05 P.M. |
@Charlesrei1 @Shaunwilden The one best way of course is 'my way'. *wink* I jest, but u know there's truth in that… *double wink* #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
3:05 P.M. |
RT @hartle: RT @jankenb2: @Marisa_C @hartle #eltchat I think gd EFL teaching has already been flipping the classroom for years :-)) |
| Charlesrei1 |
17/4/2013 |
3:05 P.M. |
Thx to the moderators of #eltchat. I had a great first experience, sorry for being late :( |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
3:05 P.M. |
@Marisa_C Yes access to tech is key to success in flipped clssrm. In that way it limits the scope of audience. But tech reach grows #eltchat |
| jo_sayers |
17/4/2013 |
3:06 P.M. |
@hartle I agree. But is it one of the top 6 abilities of a teacher? I'd say maybe not #eltchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
3:06 P.M. |
RT @cioccas: @hartle Well, an even more amazing effort then! #Eltchat :-)) All the better for chatting with you! |
| ETprofessional |
17/4/2013 |
3:06 P.M. |
Thanks for letting me drop in ever so briefly. #eltchat |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
3:06 P.M. |
Thx everyone for a very interesting chat. Glad to be back :-)) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
3:06 P.M. |
we were thinking of having 1st and 2nd #eltchat summary writers collaborate - do u think this is a good idea? @worldteacher |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
3:07 P.M. |
So great to be back with #ELTchat - I missed you guys! ^_^ |
| hartle |
17/4/2013 |
3:07 P.M. |
@jo_sayers #eltchat Nice to see you here Jonathan :-) |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
3:07 P.M. |
@Charlesrei1 Welcome and return. I visit 2 or 3 x's a month...#eltchat is a great PD resource & I find this true regardless of country I wk. |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
3:07 P.M. |
@jo_sayers u may be right it's not an ability #eltchat but gives insight into learning difficulties which Ts often forget |
| jankenb2 |
17/4/2013 |
3:08 P.M. |
@jo_sayers @hartle I have to say that too. Exp the difficulties of lrning a 2nd is gd, but mastery is not. If so, I'm otta here... #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
3:08 P.M. |
@cioccas great to have u back after so long dear Lesley - #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
3:08 P.M. |
RT @jankenb2: @Charlesrei1 Welcome and return. I visit 2 or 3 x's a month...#eltchat is a great PD resource & I find this true regar ... |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
3:08 P.M. |
@cioccas @Marisa_C is suggesting a collaborative summary for chats 1 and 2 - are you up for it, Lesley?! #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
17/4/2013 |
3:08 P.M. |
MT @kevchanwow: #eltchat that was such a free ranging .... .... Thanks to the moderators for a smooth ride. > VERY feline! Same here. Byee |
| yitzha_sarwono |
17/4/2013 |
3:08 P.M. |
RT @cioccas: I liked his comments: "technology is inevitable… you can't avoid that" #ELTchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
3:09 P.M. |
@worldteacher Why not? :-) But did @Marisa_C mean one person from each chat collaborating? #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
3:10 P.M. |
@Marisa_C Thanks :) I just can't do it when we have daylight saving here - I need my sleep! #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
3:11 P.M. |
@cioccas @Marisa_C I think so - are you going to be up for the next one? No pressure, Lesley!! :-) #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
17/4/2013 |
3:11 P.M. |
#eltchat Oops, last tweet fell fat. (Deleted the critical word - 'cat') |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
3:11 P.M. |
RT @jankenb2 @jo_sayers @hartle … Exp the difficulties of lrning a 2nd is gd, but mastery is not. If so, I'm otta here... #eltchat < Me too! |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
3:11 P.M. |
@cioccas @worldteacher yes, that's what i meant - becos topic same today #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
3:12 P.M. |
@worldteacher @Marisa_C Afraid not - have a breakfast meeting. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
17/4/2013 |
3:12 P.M. |
Transcript coming your way soon Andrea @worldteacher - we'll see what happens later and who turns up :-) #eltchat |
| cioccas |
17/4/2013 |
3:13 P.M. |
@Marisa_C @worldteacher I'll wait for another topic I feel close to - there's sure to be one soon :-) #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
3:13 P.M. |
@cioccas @Marisa_C You only need to be half awake - we can write it from the transcript! :-) #eltchat |
| worldteacher |
17/4/2013 |
3:14 P.M. |
@Marisa_C OK - happy to collaborate with someone from the late chat or write the summary from the transcript - either way! #eltchat |
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