| username |
date |
time |
status |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:00P.M. |
Looks like it's 12 any one about to #eltchat? |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:01P.M. |
@esolcourses Hello Sue - how's you ESL and EFL? #eltchat? |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:01P.M. |
Here in Seoul #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
27/2/2013 |
2:01P.M. |
RT @Shaunwilden: Looks like it's 12 any one about to #eltchat? ] yep |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:02P.M. |
it's 12 GMT and the topic for #eltchat is What are the differences between the ESL classroom and the EFL classroom? |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:03P.M. |
Another topic I am not sure I can add much insight to #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:04P.M. |
Hard to discuss without being very very general... |
| BobK99 |
27/2/2013 |
2:05P.M. |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat Not sure I can either. For me, EFL students are more fun, but that's not a very helpful observation! |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:05P.M. |
@TomTesol Yes i agree perhaps lets start at the general see where it takes us #eltchat |
| JoeMcVeigh |
27/2/2013 |
2:05P.M. |
I once taught an ESL class with 15 different L1s. EFL more likely to be a monolingual class. #ELTchat Lots of implications. #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:06P.M. |
@JoeMcVeigh Interesting difference - monolingual versus multilingual #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:06P.M. |
@BobK99 How are they more fun? #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:07P.M. |
Ok - General -- EFL = Engliash classroom often only site where Ss have chance to use English. #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
27/2/2013 |
2:07P.M. |
@Shaunwilden Hi Shaun! One definition - EFL = Eng stds living in non-Eng speaking country vs ESL=Eng stds living in Eng sp country #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
27/2/2013 |
2:08P.M. |
@Shaunwilden ESL is immersive, with stds exposed to English outside classroom in day to day life #eltchat |
| JoeMcVeigh |
27/2/2013 |
2:08P.M. |
Motivation more immediate in ESL setting. Because of English surroundings, students more aware of what they don't know. #ELTchat #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:08P.M. |
RT @TomTesol: EFL is not necessarily monolingual -- just non-English country, I think? #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:08P.M. |
EFL is not necessarily monolingual -- just non-English country, I think? #eltchat |
| JoeMcVeigh |
27/2/2013 |
2:09P.M. |
@TomTesol Right, not necessarily monolingual. But often is, e.g. in elementary and secondary school settings. #ELTchat #ELTchat |
| esolcourses |
27/2/2013 |
2:09P.M. |
RT @TomTesol: Ok - General -- EFL = Engliash classroom often only site where Ss have chance to use English. #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
27/2/2013 |
2:09P.M. |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat Not sure. Maybe it's because in my limited experience EFL students are on holiday (and out for a good time). |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:09P.M. |
@TomTesol I guess that non-English part has implications on language exposure then #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:10P.M. |
@Shaunwilden Yes - classroom priorities might be on USE in EFL, and perhaps have more accuracy focus in ESL...(fluency outside?) #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
27/2/2013 |
2:10P.M. |
@TomTesol agree generally - though I have taught on short courses (summer school) that I would probably still class as EFL #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:11P.M. |
@BobK99 ? Really? My efl studwents tend to be living at home... #eltchat |
| How2TchEnglish |
27/2/2013 |
2:11P.M. |
You can't generalise ESL classes, different nationalities and different needs. EFL- Similar differences and needs. #Eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:12P.M. |
Yeah -- this is very hard to generalize about... MY ESL classes are rarely accuracy focused -- just massive TBI frameworks. #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
27/2/2013 |
2:12P.M. |
Another distinction, maybe - ESL/ESOL tends to be more focused on functional skills & language needed to get by in day-to-day life #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:13P.M. |
@esolcourses Is there much difference between ESL AND EAL then? #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:13P.M. |
RT @esolcourses: Another distinction, ... AGREE #eltchat |
| jo_cummins |
27/2/2013 |
2:14P.M. |
@esolcourses but ESL would also cover people on pre-sessional courses, wouldn't it? Or do we define them only as EAP? #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:14P.M. |
@Shaunwilden EAL = English for Accademic.. Language? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:14P.M. |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: #ELTchat Just dipping into this today, can't stay, but thought you might find this article useful http://t.co/37ptsexRPY |
| OUPELTGlobal |
27/2/2013 |
2:14P.M. |
#ELTchat Just dipping into this today, can't stay, but thought you might find this article useful http://t.co/37ptsexRPY |
| How2TchEnglish |
27/2/2013 |
2:14P.M. |
@TomTesol @Shaunwilden Different needs. EFL might be specific-exams,education. ESL needs for living in a country - Day to day life. #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:15P.M. |
Ah - thanks Shaun. Yes -- 'second' would be 'additional'... :-) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:15P.M. |
RT @LTLLblog: As well as the differences, what are the key similarities? #eltchat |
| LTLLblog |
27/2/2013 |
2:15P.M. |
Except that they want to learn English, of course! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
27/2/2013 |
2:15P.M. |
#eltchat in a lesson observing and can t really take part isn t ESOL also relevant in this discussion? |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:15P.M. |
@TomTesol No English as an additional language, which seems to be the term used in UK state schools #eltchat |
| LTLLblog |
27/2/2013 |
2:15P.M. |
As well as the differences, what are the key similarities? #eltchat |
| jo_cummins |
27/2/2013 |
2:16P.M. |
@LTLLblog well, they are all learning English! I don't find all these different terms very useful... #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
27/2/2013 |
2:16P.M. |
@Shaunwilden EAL (English as an additional language) is terminology mainly used in schools IIRC - ESOL is the adult ed variant #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:17P.M. |
Really not sure what's useful here except that ESL happens in countries where English dominates outside the classroom... #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
27/2/2013 |
2:17P.M. |
@TomTesol #eltchat Definition problem, methinks. They were EFL students in thr classes at home but flew over for a quick blast of ESL 1/2 |
| How2TchEnglish |
27/2/2013 |
2:17P.M. |
@jo_cummins @esolcourses Hi Jo, isn't ESL for living in a country? Do you need EAP to survive? Or just for study? #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
27/2/2013 |
2:18P.M. |
@Marisa_C My understanding is that ESOL (English as a second or other language) and ESL mean pretty much the same thing, Marisa #eltchat |
| jo_cummins |
27/2/2013 |
2:18P.M. |
@How2TchEnglish @esolcourses if you are on a pre-sessional course in an English speaking country I think you need both #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
27/2/2013 |
2:19P.M. |
How ESL and EFL classrooms differ http://t.co/37ptsexRPY #ELTchat |
| JoeMcVeigh |
27/2/2013 |
2:19P.M. |
So perhaps one question is: does the setting make a difference (English speaking country or not) #ELTchat |
| jeeves_ |
27/2/2013 |
2:19P.M. |
Exposure to rich English input & opportunities to use English greater outside the #ESL classroom. That can be motivating. #ELTchat #Willis |
| jeeves_ |
27/2/2013 |
2:19P.M. |
#EFL v #ESL > RT @OUPELTGlobal #ELTchat Just dipping in today, can't stay, but thought you might find this useful http://t.co/hiEpTpARzZ |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:19P.M. |
@TomTesol Unf the person who asked the question does not appear to be taking part in #eltchat so we cant ask what exactly they want |
| BobK99 |
27/2/2013 |
2:19P.M. |
@TomTesol #eltchat 2/2 So although the holiday experience was immersive, I wasn't teaching them as ESL students (life/work skills abroad) |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:20P.M. |
@Shaunwilden Nice! I really wanted the other topic, but not sure I'll be up at 6:00 AM. Always fun to meet everyone though! #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:20P.M. |
@BobK99 I see. sort of ESL with temporary EFL blend... #eltchat |
| How2TchEnglish |
27/2/2013 |
2:21P.M. |
@jo_cummins @esolcourses Agreed. But if you're an asylum seeker you need ESL. Not EAP. EAP specific to students wanting to study. #Eltchat |
| JoeMcVeigh |
27/2/2013 |
2:21P.M. |
And another question: Does the make-up of the class make a difference, in terms of monolingual vs. many different L1 backgrounds? #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:22P.M. |
Sorry my tweetdeck keeps freezing #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:23P.M. |
And Collaborative Jackass is dodging the blocks... #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:23P.M. |
@JoeMcVeigh Great Q. Much easier to keep English as language of instruction in multi-lingual class. #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:24P.M. |
@Shaunwilden Yes -- we're installing our first in 3 weeks... #ELTChat |
| How2TchEnglish |
27/2/2013 |
2:25P.M. |
@esolcourses @Marisa_C ESOL covers culture. For example UK has an ESOL citizenship test on British Cult. ESL-language only.#eltchat |
| sophie_orourke |
27/2/2013 |
2:25P.M. |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: How ESL and EFL classrooms differ http://t.co/37ptsexRPY #ELTchat |
| BobK99 |
27/2/2013 |
2:26P.M. |
@How2TchEnglish #Eltchat Yeah - tell that to the Daily Mail (who seem to think 'asylum seeker' and 'foreign student' are often synonymous!) |
| jo_cummins |
27/2/2013 |
2:26P.M. |
@How2TchEnglish @esolcourses yes, I agree. My point is that pre-sessional also need ESL skills #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:26P.M. |
I would hope ESL is evolving -- surely it's everywhere that language and culture can't be separated... #eltchat |
| LTLLblog |
27/2/2013 |
2:26P.M. |
Here's one. Are mainstream course books such as NEF and CE more designed for ESL or EFL? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:27P.M. |
RT @LTLLblog: Here's one. Are mainstream course books such as NEF and CE more designed for ESL or EFL? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:27P.M. |
@LTLLblog Nice question :-) #eltchat |
| LTLLblog |
27/2/2013 |
2:28P.M. |
@Shaunwilden Thanks. I would say they are almost invariably more relevant to the ESL context. What's your take? #eltchat |
| How2TchEnglish |
27/2/2013 |
2:28P.M. |
@jo_cummins @esolcourses Is there time on a pre-sessional to do ESL though? My experience of Pre-sess, no time to cover ESL. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:29P.M. |
@LTLLblog I know NEF more thanCE and see where you are coming from on that though ironically used more in EFL c/rooms I bet #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:29P.M. |
Tweetchat is wonky tonight. Textbooks aim generally for 1 or the other... but EIL books are emerging, I think. #eltchat |
| jimscriv |
27/2/2013 |
2:29P.M. |
Possibly all these acronyms are just generalisations about needs - in every case we have to look closer at what an individual needs #eltchat |
| How2TchEnglish |
27/2/2013 |
2:30P.M. |
ESL =no profit-older books and less classroom resources. EFL-Private language schools more money, more books aimed at EFL. #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:30P.M. |
Nicely put RT @jimscriv: in every case we have to look closer at what an individual needs #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
27/2/2013 |
2:31P.M. |
MT @jimscriv: ... just generalisations about needs - in every case we have to look closer at what an individual needs #eltchat . Quite so! |
| How2TchEnglish |
27/2/2013 |
2:31P.M. |
@LTLLblog EFL. Efl schools have more money. Publishers aim at EFL schools because that is the biggest market no? #eltchat |
| JoeMcVeigh |
27/2/2013 |
2:31P.M. |
For those of us in the U.S. who might be unfamiliar with "mainstream coursebooks" could someone spell out NEF and CE ? #ELTchat |
| jo_cummins |
27/2/2013 |
2:31P.M. |
@How2TchEnglish in Australia, it depended on level/how long course. But even advanced sts need help negotiating a new country #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:32P.M. |
@JoeMcVeigh Arh yes good point - one is New English File by OUP and Cutting Edge by Pearson #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
27/2/2013 |
2:33P.M. |
Sorry everyone, but twitter is playing up for me today & freezing when I try and post. Switching status to 'mostly lurking' :-) #eltchat |
| jimscriv |
27/2/2013 |
2:33P.M. |
My own experience of ESOL sts was that there was much more urgency, fear of failure than in EFL. #eltchat |
| LTLLblog |
27/2/2013 |
2:33P.M. |
@Shaunwilden Pretty safe bet, that! Guess it's up to teachers to make content more culturally relevant. However, verging off topic. #eltchat |
| LTLLblog |
27/2/2013 |
2:34P.M. |
@jimscriv I think we can all relate to that - especially if working in a country were we didn't start out knowing the lingo. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:34P.M. |
@esolcourses I think twitter is being an issue for all of us :-( #eltchat |
| JoeMcVeigh |
27/2/2013 |
2:34P.M. |
Yes, @jimscriv, but when visiting King Saud U in Riyadh with 10,000 EFL students, a bit of a challenge to look at individual needs! #ELTchat |
| CotterHUE |
27/2/2013 |
2:34P.M. |
of all the times that twitter decides to have an issue, it shouldn't be in the middle of #eltchat |
| jo_cummins |
27/2/2013 |
2:34P.M. |
@jimscriv I agree! A lot of the generalisations here don't correlate with my experiences. #eltchat |
| How2TchEnglish |
27/2/2013 |
2:34P.M. |
@jimscriv Agreed. ESL classes have a wider range of needs in terms of stdnt errors. EFL more generalised as 'normally' monolingual #eltchat |
| LTLLblog |
27/2/2013 |
2:35P.M. |
@esolcourses Just my luck, first #eltchat as a participant! |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:35P.M. |
@jimscriv Because failure has greater repercussions? #eltchat |
| jimscriv |
27/2/2013 |
2:36P.M. |
RT @jimscriv: @JoeMcVeigh True! Can't argue that! But not being able to analyse needs successfully doesn't mean they don't exist. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:37P.M. |
@dianatremayne Not late at all 25 mins left of #eltchat |
| dianatremayne |
27/2/2013 |
2:37P.M. |
@esolcourses @Shaunwilden #eltchat bit late to reply to this but many ESL/ESOL ss use v little English outside college (unfortunately) |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:37P.M. |
@Shaunwilden I think because failure is LEARNED? #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:38P.M. |
or -- fear of failure. My Korean ELIL Ttrainees often can't get past it until the end... even when shown they will succeed. #eltchat |
| How2TchEnglish |
27/2/2013 |
2:38P.M. |
My first #eltchat, very much enjoyed it, even with twitter issues. |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:39P.M. |
@dianatremayne Good point! Our assumptions, then off they go to self-made L1 ghettos #eltchat |
| jimscriv |
27/2/2013 |
2:39P.M. |
I think there's often an urgency to ESOL. The language problems are alive, here, now, yesterday. EFL is an investment in the future #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
27/2/2013 |
2:40P.M. |
@dianatremayne #eltchat If they're in a monoglot bubble, although physically they're 'immersed' in Eng, they're not really ESL students. |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:40P.M. |
@jimscriv Or "EFL is an investment in..." college...(standardized tests). #eltchat |
| NishatL |
27/2/2013 |
2:41P.M. |
@jimscriv so is an "urgency" to ESOL good or bad? Great #eltchat !!! |
| dianatremayne |
27/2/2013 |
2:42P.M. |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat unfortunately also supposed to be in 2 other places! |
| jimscriv |
27/2/2013 |
2:43P.M. |
@NishatL Urgency = prioritise perceived immediate wins; focus on collecting "more" (vocab, gram), need to be understood (pron) #eltchat |
| JoeMcVeigh |
27/2/2013 |
2:43P.M. |
So, back to motivation question. Perhaps T's can make use of S's perceived needs to help create more relevant lessons. #ELTchat |
| dianatremayne |
27/2/2013 |
2:44P.M. |
@BobK99 #eltchat true altho def not EFL either |
| Marisa_C |
27/2/2013 |
2:45P.M. |
RT @JoeMcVeigh: So, back to motivation question. Perhaps T's can make use of S's perceived needs to help create more relevant lsns. #ELTchat |
| macmillancampus |
27/2/2013 |
2:45P.M. |
What challenges do teachers face when using digital? Let us know - our techie experts are here to help! #eltchat http://t.co/TyFskV4cOo |
| Marisa_C |
27/2/2013 |
2:46P.M. |
@esolcourses for me too esol and esl same #eltchat |
| jimscriv |
27/2/2013 |
2:47P.M. |
A large, shared central park for EFL ESOL etc: everyone needs basic gram, lexis, pron. It's the surrounding streets that vary #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
27/2/2013 |
2:47P.M. |
@jimscriv gd point abt future vs now - imeddiacy of applying lang learnt also may vary tho social media now makes a difference #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
27/2/2013 |
2:48P.M. |
MT @jimscriv: I think theres often an urgency to ESOL. The lang probs r alive, here, now, y-day. EFL is an investment in the future #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
27/2/2013 |
2:49P.M. |
RT @How2TchEnglish: ESOL covers culture. For example UK has an ESOL citizenship test on British Cult. ESL-language only.#eltchat |
| leoselivan |
27/2/2013 |
2:49P.M. |
some idiomatic expressions may be less relevant for #EFL contexts #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
27/2/2013 |
2:50P.M. |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @jimscriv: (apologies ... have to leave) / waves goodbye / #eltchat > perhaps for production but for comprehension? |
| jimscriv |
27/2/2013 |
2:50P.M. |
(apologies ... have to leave) / waves goodbye / #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:50P.M. |
RT @jimscriv: (apologies ... have to leave) / waves goodbye / #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:50P.M. |
@leoselivan Arent all idiomatic expressions not relevant :-) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:52P.M. |
@leoselivan Ooo and that is a whole different #eltchat :-) |
| leoselivan |
27/2/2013 |
2:52P.M. |
RT @Shaunwilden: Arent all idiomatic expressions not relevant :-) >depends where they r on the spectrum of idiomaticity :) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
27/2/2013 |
2:52P.M. |
@How2TchEnglish local culture should really play an important part of an ESL or ESOL programme #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:53P.M. |
@Marisa_C Social Media -- my EFL TTraining environment is ESLish: Perhaps today the future is becoming now #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
27/2/2013 |
2:55P.M. |
@TomTesol very true #eltchat |
| How2TchEnglish |
27/2/2013 |
2:55P.M. |
@Marisa_C But sometimes doesn't because of the language focus? ESOL tests students' cultural awareness? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
27/2/2013 |
2:56P.M. |
@How2TchEnglish not sure about that perhaps @esolcourses could help and let us know? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:56P.M. |
RT @TomTesol: @Marisa_C Social Media -- my EFL TTraining environment is ESLish: Perhaps today the future is becoming now #eltchat |
| ELTchat |
27/2/2013 |
2:57P.M. |
Please block and report repetitive troll remarks - block - report -- also on tweetdeck go to TOOLs=GLOBAL FILTER add his ID #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
2:57P.M. |
Let's do it! RT @Shaunwilden: @leoselivan Ooo and that is a whole different #eltchat :-) #eltchat |
| SaundzDotCom |
27/2/2013 |
2:57P.M. |
@leoselivan "to use a sledgehammer to crack a nut", for example, there's a video on that :) http://t.co/xwDloHqbyy #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
2:58P.M. |
Sorry I couldnt take fuller part but hopefully my tweet asking for a summary writer will send...... #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
27/2/2013 |
2:59P.M. |
Looking for a summary writer for this #ELTchat - any volunteers please |
| BobK99 |
27/2/2013 |
3:00P.M. |
Maybe this'll get through to #eltchat: it was worth the effort. Bye ;-) |
| leoselivan |
27/2/2013 |
3:01P.M. |
sorry I joined only towards the end. Looking forward to the summary too cc @shaunwilden @Marisa_C #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
3:01P.M. |
Oh -- I'll try one. Where do I send it when it's done? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
27/2/2013 |
3:02P.M. |
RT @Shaunwilden: Thanks to all for persevering despite the twitter issues, see you tonight to talk about IWBs #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
3:02P.M. |
Thanks to all for persevering despite the twitter issues, see you tonight to talk about IWBs #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
27/2/2013 |
3:03P.M. |
@TomTesol @Marisa_C Thanks, once the transcript is published, summarize and then post on your blog or send me it #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
27/2/2013 |
3:04P.M. |
@TomTesol thank you and great to have a new summary writer join the great panel of #eltchat bloggers!!!! |
| Marisa_C |
27/2/2013 |
3:05P.M. |
@TomTesol will get transcript for you in a few mins Tom and post link on twitter #ELTchat |
| english247 |
27/2/2013 |
3:05P.M. |
#English for work and play - picture vocabulary quizzes for adults & #kids http://t.co/BtcyFPAk #esl #efl #esol #engpls #sped #yl #eltchat |
| TJX_ELT |
27/2/2013 |
3:06P.M. |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: How ESL and EFL classrooms differ http://t.co/37ptsexRPY #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
27/2/2013 |
3:06P.M. |
@TomTesol :-) #eltchat #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
3:06P.M. |
@Marisa_C I think I picked a brief one for my first ;-) #eltchat #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
3:08P.M. |
@Marisa_C Is there a format for these summaries, or just whatever works? #eltchat |
| TomTesol |
27/2/2013 |
3:08P.M. |
@Marisa_C OK Will look out for it. #eltchat |
| nroberts88 |
27/2/2013 |
3:11P.M. |
Why doesn't the word effection exist? #ELTchat |
| jankenb2 |
27/2/2013 |
3:19P.M. |
@jimscriv Missed #eltchat, but want to share my thoughts on the difference. EFL is > wkplace/academic while ESL is > functional BICS |
| Marisa_C |
27/2/2013 |
3:21P.M. |
RT @jankenb2: Missed #eltchat, but want to share my thoughts on the difference. EFL is > wkplace/academic while ESL is > functional BICS |
| Marisa_C |
27/2/2013 |
3:22P.M. |
@TomTesol Here is the #eltchat summary index - have a quick look - some great summaries there to inspire you! http://t.co/mkZQucoSJQ |
| StanzaSL |
27/2/2013 |
3:24P.M. |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: How ESL and EFL classrooms differ http://t.co/37ptsexRPY #ELTchat |
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