| 
  • If you are citizen of an European Union member nation, you may not use this service unless you are at least 16 years old.

  • You already know Dokkio is an AI-powered assistant to organize & manage your digital files & messages. Very soon, Dokkio will support Outlook as well as One Drive. Check it out today!

View
 

Can the skill of giving constructive peer feedback be taught to learners and how

Page history last edited by Marisa Constantinides 11 years, 5 months ago

 

Can the sill of giving peer feedback be taught to Ls.docx

 

 

username

date

time

status

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

1:02 PM

Great topic for our 1st #ELTchat  "Can the skill of giving constructive peer feedback be taught to learners and how?"  Join us in one hour

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

1:03 PM

Is there a topic for elt chat? Just travelling home from class. #eltchat

knolinfos

1/30/2013

1:04 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Great topic for our 1st #ELTchat  "Can the skill of giving constructive peer feedback be taught to learners and how?"  Joi ...

harrisonmike

1/30/2013

1:05 PM

Anyone have any good links on #CLIL? Resources, methodology articles, tips, etc? Any help much appreciated #eltchat

harrisonmike

1/30/2013

1:06 PM

Also any good stuff on #EAL would be really useful: resources, tips, etc. Thank you! #ESOL #eltchat

ELTchat

1/30/2013

1:29 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Our 1st #ELTchat  "Can the skill of giving constructive peer feedback be taught to learners and how?"  Join us in 30 mins

LockhartAcademy

1/30/2013

1:38 PM

RT @ELTchat: RT @Marisa_C: Our 1st #ELTchat  "Can the skill of giving constructive peer feedback be taught to learners and how?"  Join u ...

worldteacher

1/30/2013

1:43 PM

RT @Marisa_C: 1st #ELTchat  "Can the skill of giving constructive peer feedback be taught to learners and how?"  Join us in 20 mins.

GLOBOlanguage

1/30/2013

1:45 PM

RT @Lingualy The history of the #english #language in 10 minutes http://t.co/BkjGIprT  #langchat #eltchat

Arqueidz

1/30/2013

1:49 PM

RT @ELTchat: RT @Marisa_C: Our 1st #ELTchat  "Can the skill of giving constructive peer feedback be taught to learners and how?"  Join u ...

skajder

1/30/2013

1:55 PM

RT @ShellTerrell: A wiki activity to introduce insight into Wikipedia http://t.co/gCXoI4c4 by @seburnt #eltchat

eltcal

1/30/2013

1:58 PM

ELT Chat on Twitter, starts in 2 minutes (topic: "constructive peer feedback") #ELTChat @ELTchat http://t.co/W0FJvzdL

billpellowe

1/30/2013

2:00 PM

RT @eltcal: ELT Chat on Twitter, starts in 2 minutes (topic: "constructive peer feedback") #ELTChat @ELTchat http://t.co/W0FJvzdL

BobK99

1/30/2013

2:01 PM

#ELTChat Well 'm ready. First Qn is, why should learners be interested? (I know it's a useful tool, but how do I persuade their bosses?)

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:03 PM

@BobK99 English lessons do more than teach English. Some companies like people to get to know each other better through classes. #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:04 PM

Who is participating? #ELTchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:04 PM

@BobK99 Good point. Guess if it's bosses then it's about emphasising workplace/business skills? But will they c that as yr job? #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:04 PM

Welcome to #ELTchat everyone - moderating on my own today so I need all the help I can get :-)

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:05 PM

@teflerinha  #eltchat Hey Rachael thanks - appreciated

billpellowe

1/30/2013

2:05 PM

@BobK99 #eltchat Peer feedback also helps students to focus on their own performances.

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:05 PM

@BobK99 Forgot the hashtag again :( #eltchat Sounds as if you're talking about formal assessment??

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:05 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat Will try and help where I can :)

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:06 PM

And the main question was if it can be taught and how #ELtchat

billpellowe

1/30/2013

2:06 PM

#eltchat Are we talking about students rating each other (for example, speeches, posters, etc) or is this something different?

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:06 PM

@eltnotebook  #eltchat Hi Sue - I think the focus might be on informal peer feedback to speaking & writing in or out of class

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:06 PM

@eltnotebook @BobK99 can skills of giving constructive peer feedback be taught #eltchat

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:06 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat I'm here - though can't stay for the whole time :(

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:06 PM

@teflerinha @BobK99 I think bosses expect us to cover many aspects. Workplace skills are certainly one of them. #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:07 PM

#eltchat Think two main issues: giving helpful feedback and giving feedback in a helpful way (content and form)

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:07 PM

@billpellowe  #eltchat yes that's right - though peer marking of informat tests and quizzes coulds be included as well

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:07 PM

@billpellowe @BobK99  yes - I see it as more an informal  thing - a teaching technique rather than evaluation #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:07 PM

@billpellowe #eltchat Basically, yes, but more than just giving a grade, I think- giving feedback on good and needs development etc.

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:08 PM

b@MarjorieRosenbe  #eltchat ... the skill of giving helpful and constructive peer feedback :-)

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:08 PM

@MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C If the skills of giving feedback can be taught... #eltchat

billpellowe

1/30/2013

2:08 PM

#eltchat We've been doing peer assessment research through iPod touch-based surveys http://t.co/bqC09iIr

BobK99

1/30/2013

2:08 PM

#eltchat @eltnotebook Not nec. formal assessmnt. I was thinking  genrly. What use (as perc'd by the learner) is peer f/back on, say, pairwk?

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:08 PM

@Marisa_C If what can be taught? #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:08 PM

RT @teflerinha: #eltchat Think two main issues: giving helpful feedback and giving feedback in a helpful way (content and form) > yes!

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:09 PM

#eltchat Giving feedback in a helpful way is about interpersonal skills- and can be taught if ss are willing.

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:09 PM

RT @billpellowe: #eltchat We've been doing peer assessment research through iPod touch-based surveys http://t.co/KBDCjSGf - an the results?

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:09 PM

@Marisa_C yes, I'd agree. was replying to @BobK99 who seemed to be talking about formal assessment #ELTchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:10 PM

#ELTChat - axamples - teaching presentations skills to a group of 6 learners. When it comes time for feedback how can u get more than 'good'

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:10 PM

Giving useful feedback is about understanding what makes a good piece of work- and can also be taught & applied to own work 2 #eltchat

billpellowe

1/30/2013

2:10 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat Preliminary results with university EFL writing students indicate the real value is in doing peer assessment

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:10 PM

RT @AlexandraKouk: #eltchat perhaps the T modelling ways of constructive feedback woul be a place to start?

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:10 PM

#eltchat perhaps the T modelling ways of constructive feedback woul be a place to start?

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:10 PM

So - the big question posed was - can it be taught and how #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:10 PM

@teflerinha @Marisa_C I think I missed the topic - what is it exactly? #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:11 PM

@KerrCarolyn #eltchat Very specific and well understood criteria, I think, and perhaps starting with one element at a time?

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:11 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Would this then include familiarisation with marking or evaluation criteria #ELTchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:11 PM

RT @Marisa_C: RT @AlexandraKouk: #eltchat perhaps the T modelling ways of constructive feedback woul be a place to start?> Yes, absolutely.

billpellowe

1/30/2013

2:11 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat ... but not necessarily in getting peer assessment

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:12 PM

RT @billpellowe: @Marisa_C #eltchat Doing peer assessment teaches students to focus on those aspects of their own performances the next  ...

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:12 PM

@billpellowe @Marisa_C #eltchat That makes sense to me. It's the process that's useful, rather than necessarily the product.

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:12 PM

So is the topic about giving feedback? #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:12 PM

@billpellowe interesting result  #eltchat > so Ss don't appreacaite peer feedback all that much?

billpellowe

1/30/2013

2:12 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat Doing peer assessment teaches students to focus on those aspects of their own performances the next time.

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:13 PM

@KerrCarolyn #eltchat Learners could specify elements they want fb on, or could focus on one at a time with the class I guess.

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:13 PM

So yes, familiarisation with criteria is essential #eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:13 PM

@eltnotebook #ELTChat - and should we be teaching them? If so how?

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:13 PM

I'd say the main problem is learners not knowing how/what to evaluate. that has to be dealt with as well #eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:13 PM

RT @KerrCarolyn: @teflerinha - agree - one element at a time - who decides which? do you need to have a 'practice run'? #ELTChat

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:14 PM

@KerrCarolyn  I use checklists - of whatever we've been focusing on. #eltchat

billpellowe

1/30/2013

2:14 PM

@teflerinha #eltchat re: "Giving useful feedback" Yes, that's what we're seeing with PA in writing classes

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:14 PM

@AlexandraKouk thanks - seemed to have been off on another topic at beginning. #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:14 PM

#ELTChat so valuable as an awareness raising tool but more so for the S giving rather that receiving the feedback?

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:14 PM

#ELTChat - has anyone tried getting the learners to define - what would be the elements of a 'good' presentation / short report / email?

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:15 PM

@Marisa_C  Much more for the S giving. For me that's the main point. Increasing S awareness #eltchat

ChrisCattaneo

1/30/2013

2:15 PM

RT @eltnotebook: I'd say the main problem is learners not knowing how/what to evaluate. that has to be dealt with as well #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:15 PM

RT @KerrCarolyn: #ELTChat - and what are the language benefits of learning to give 'feedback ' ?

billpellowe

1/30/2013

2:15 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat That's what we found but only a pilot study.

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:15 PM

RT @PatrickAndrews: @eltnotebook Yes and also being rather bland in assessments or too harsh #eltchat > Vital!

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:15 PM

#ELTChat - and what are the language benefits of learning to give 'feedback ' ?

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:15 PM

In Business (CUP) has a feedback grid for sts to use when giving fb on presenations - based on some NLP techniques of modelling. #eltchat

PatrickAndrews

1/30/2013

2:15 PM

@eltnotebook Yes and also being rather bland in assessments or too harsh #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:15 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat Yes, good summary- though I guess if everyone is pointing out similar things the fb could be useful for recipient too.

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:15 PM

#eltchat criteria are set by the T, but are lees complicaterd than those used for t-based feedback. v imp. to avoid inconsistencies though

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:16 PM

@Marisa_C @KerrCarolyn #eltchat If we're talking about HOW to give fb, I guess work on hedging and mitigating could be useful!

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:16 PM

I encourage positive feedback from peers and save the 'correction' for my comments. #eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:16 PM

@PatrickAndrews @eltnotebook - how do you combat thais? #ELTChat

BobK99

1/30/2013

2:16 PM

#eltchat On my CELTA, we def. got better at giving peer feedback over the weeks - but it was largely untaught. Just knew what to talk about

PatrickAndrews

1/30/2013

2:16 PM

@KerrCarolyn Think that can be useful #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:16 PM

In Cambridge prep classes sts get grading scale for writing to use for themselves and in peer fb. Very helpful. #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:17 PM

RT @Marisa_C: So perhaps some exaggerated version of someone giving feedback in a horrible way could alert Ss? #ELTchat esp YL & teen

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:17 PM

@BobK99 #eltchat CELTA a good parallel. Think modelling by tutors an important part of that process.

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:17 PM

@BobK99 #ELTCHat - what would have helped you? Defining criteria? Using a Grid? Using structured feedback?

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:17 PM

So perhaps some exaggerated version of someone giving feedback in a horrible way could alert Ss? #ELTchat esp YL & teen

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:17 PM

@Marisa_C @KerrCarolyn Lots of modals: You should, you might try, it would be better if ... #eltchat

PatrickAndrews

1/30/2013

2:17 PM

@KerrCarolyn Perhaps useful to give speakers feedback as a communication strategy (eg you are speaking too fast)? #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:18 PM

might be interesting to compare women and men's speech (Deborah Tannen) in giving feedback. #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:18 PM

@KerrCarolyn @BobK99 #eltchat Something you'd like to 'steal', something you'd have done differently and why.

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:18 PM

@BobK99  #eltchat but not talking about the CELTA here - though agree it shoudl be taught

billpellowe

1/30/2013

2:18 PM

#eltchat Students aren't very good at assessing students who are at a higher level. They tend to put better students on holistic pedastals

PatrickAndrews

1/30/2013

2:18 PM

@KerrCarolyn @eltnotebook difficult and perhaps a long term process.  Perhaps also choosing the right people to assess each other.  #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:18 PM

@Marisa_C @KerrCarolyn Not to mention being polite and respectful which are important to teach. #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:19 PM

Learning about FB can include parallel writing with examples of what should be done. #eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:19 PM

@teflerinha @BobK99 #ELTChat - I'll be stealing that idea - great!!

ChrisCattaneo

1/30/2013

2:19 PM

@BobK99 #ELTchat - (just a flying visit!) Bob, this is because you were always talking +/- about the same criteria everyone had in mind :)

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:19 PM

So in training learners how to do it we are giving them important communication strategies ?? #eltchat

BobK99

1/30/2013

2:19 PM

RT @KerrCarolyn: #ELTChat - and what are the language benefits of learning to give 'feedback ' ? > Yes, just my point

PatrickAndrews

1/30/2013

2:19 PM

@teflerinha @Marisa_C @KerrCarolyn Yes, I think so #eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:19 PM

@PatrickAndrews @eltnotebook #ELTChat - ?? long term process - even for adults?

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:20 PM

@PatrickAndrews @KerrCarolyn @eltnotebook Should class dynamics play an important role then? #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:20 PM

RT @MarjorieRosenbe: Learning about FB can include parallel writing with examples of what should be done. #eltchat

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:20 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat  Good versions to. With my Delta people we look at http://t.co/JH3INruN on peer observation

PatrickAndrews

1/30/2013

2:20 PM

@KerrCarolyn @eltnotebook Why not for adults?  #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:20 PM

@KerrCarolyn @BobK99 :) #eltchat

PatrickAndrews

1/30/2013

2:21 PM

@AlexandraKouk @KerrCarolyn @eltnotebook Would think so #eltchat

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:21 PM

@Marisa_C  #eltchat Would be nice to have a similar video of learners

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:21 PM

@eltnotebook  #eltchat Must repeat that our topic is about language learners not our CELTA or DELTA trainees

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:21 PM

@AlexandraKouk @PatrickAndrews @KerrCarolyn @eltnotebook Don't class dynamics always play imp. role? #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:21 PM

@PatrickAndrews @KerrCarolyn @eltnotebook #eltchat Agree. Hypothetical sits can work well. E.g. examples of good and not so good ways of fb

PatrickAndrews

1/30/2013

2:22 PM

@teflerinha @KerrCarolyn @eltnotebook Yes, I think this is a good idea #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:22 PM

I think a standard technique in exam prep classes is role plays where Ss take on part of assessors #ELTchat  - extend that?

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:22 PM

@eltnotebook That's reason for example or grading scale for assessment. Tell sts what we are looking for. #eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:22 PM

@PatrickAndrews @eltnotebook #ELTChat - they seem much more effective when it is not so in the room. I then ask for the same level .. (1)

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:22 PM

@MarjorieRosenbe Great class dynamics very important and could be part of lerner trainign #ELTchat

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:22 PM

Hi everyone, sorry I'm late. Peer feedbackέΑοhmmέΑοI agree with @teflerinha in saying that the teacher provides a good model for sts. #eltchat

ChrisCattaneo

1/30/2013

2:23 PM

RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @eltnotebook That's reason for example or grading scale for assessment. Tell sts what we are looking for. #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:23 PM

@eltnotebook I think so too - good and bad examples of #Eltchat

billpellowe

1/30/2013

2:23 PM

RT @Marisa_C: I think a standard technique in exam prep classes is role plays where Ss take on part of assessors #ELTchat  - extend that?

BobK99

1/30/2013

2:23 PM

@Marisa_C  #eltchat Yes - I only mentioned it because it was my most recent experience of being a (classroom) student ;-)

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:23 PM

I tell sts to say what is was they liked about someone's work and would like to learn to do. Focus on positive. #eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:23 PM

@PatrickAndrews @eltnotebook #ELTChat έΑοand quality of feedback for the people in the room. It works (2). Have you tried similar?

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:24 PM

@Marisa_C  #eltchat I think the skills are the same whatever the context awareness + ability to be constructive.

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:24 PM

RT @AlexandraKouk: #eltchat perhaps we could train Ss on samples of writing, speech etc. not belonging to their classmates first - just  ...

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:24 PM

@AlexandraKouk Great idea, much less chance of losing face #eltchat

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:24 PM

I think giving students a list of questions as a guideline often helps focus on what they should be giving feedbk on. #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:24 PM

@Marisa_C did that with my CAE group - worked well but they need to have lots of info to work with. #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:24 PM

In any forma of T or peer evaluation the criteria should be public and known in advance #ELtchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:24 PM

@eltnotebook @Marisa_C #ELTChat - with higher levels you can also use authentic materials e.g. a short segment of a TED talk

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:24 PM

#eltchat sorry, phone call, lost the thread, will catch up!

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:24 PM

#eltchat perhaps we could train Ss on samples of writing, speech etc. not belonging to their classmates first - just to demonstrate process

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:25 PM

@AlexandraKouk Exactly. They need to know what is expected of them. #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:25 PM

@AlexandraKouk #eltchat Yes, I agree, and often more sensitive I find.

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:25 PM

Would you include peer editing of written work as part of the #eltchat discussion for today?

billpellowe

1/30/2013

2:25 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat Yes, ideally the criteria should be examples of "best practice" so students know what to aim for.

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:25 PM

: @teflerinha more important with YLs who can be v. competitive too :-) #eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:25 PM

@AlexandraKouk @PatrickAndrews @eltnotebook #ELTChat - I think encouraging good quality and constructive peer fb is part of good grp dynamic

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:25 PM

@KerrCarolyn How would you use TED talks for that Carolyn? #ELTchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:25 PM

@eltnotebook @Marisa_C #eltchat > Agreed.

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:26 PM

Through peer correction and feedback, sts also become aware of their own issues. A great tool! #eltchat

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:26 PM

@eltknowledge #eltchat can't see why not

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:26 PM

@eltknowledge #ELTChat - yes absolutely - Peer editing of written work is another rich area for feedback

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:26 PM

@BobK99  #ELTchat :-)

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:26 PM

@MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C You need to take a couple of things at a time and build up the checklist over the course #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:26 PM

@eltknowledge #eltchat I'd include peer editing, yes.

BobK99

1/30/2013

2:26 PM

RT @Marisa_C:... Great class dynamics very imp...#ELTchat > Hmm, OK lesson learned. I'll do better next week :-)

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:27 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat  For Business Eng : the audience are  "clients" who will "buy" the product/sevice etc from the most effective presenter

billpellowe

1/30/2013

2:27 PM

RT @eltknowledge: Through peer correction and feedback, sts also become aware of their own issues. A great tool! #eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:27 PM

@Marisa_C #ELTChat - show 2 Short clips from TED. Have L's evaluate against criteria - lang used, clarity, body language, use of signposts

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:27 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Checklists mentioned - a variety possible - a good idea to build one with Ss each time depending on activity focus #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:27 PM

Checklists mentioned - a variety possible - a good idea to build one with Ss each time depending on activity focus #eltchat

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:28 PM

@eltnotebook #eltchat so we're including indirect ways of giving fb too - this can be v. effective and less threatening

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:28 PM

RT @eltnotebook: @Marisa_C #eltchat  For ESP : the audience are  "clients" who will "buy" the product/sevice  from  most effective presenter

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:28 PM

@KerrCarolyn @teflerinha Questions like 'Does the intro create interest?','Is there a conclusion?' helps guide feedbk. #eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:28 PM

@Marisa_C #ELTChat - a short exercise in contrastive 'feedback' seems to hone feedback skills before giving peer feedback

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:29 PM

@Marisa_C @eltnotebook #ELTChat - this works for written work too - which report / email would you want to read first? Buy which product?

chiasuan

1/30/2013

2:29 PM

@Marisa_C @eltnotebook Hahaha I play Dragon's Den in class to encourage a fun way of giving feedback. #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:30 PM

... or  potential empoyers etc #ELtchat ... in who gets the job activities

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:30 PM

@chiasuan Explain pls Chia? #ELTchat

chiasuan

1/30/2013

2:31 PM

@Marisa_C A panel of 5 students play the Dragon's in the den &the rest take turns presenting a product/idea.The panel gives feedbk. #eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:31 PM

@teflerinha @eltknowledge #ELTChat - if I have access to projectors I have the L's beam the written work on the wall and edit together

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:32 PM

@eltnotebook @Marisa_C #ELTChat - would this work for written work too?

chiasuan

1/30/2013

2:32 PM

@Marisa_C If you haven't seen Dragon's Den, do look it up on Youtube. Great short clips to use for the classroom! #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:32 PM

@chiasuan  #eltchat Could this be turned into a game of Auditions? Who gets the part? #eltchat just thought of it

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:32 PM

@KerrCarolyn @eltknowledge #eltchat Yes, it works really well when everyone can see at the same time.

chiasuan

1/30/2013

2:32 PM

@Marisa_C It's based on a TV programme called Dragon's Den where entrepreneurs try 2 get investments frm the millionaire 'dragons'. #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:33 PM

@chiasuan @Marisa_C #eltchat Also fab lesson on Lessonstream with elevator pitch- used this as part of Dragon's Den lesson myself.

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:33 PM

@chiasuan  #eltchat sounds good will do

BHasanbasoglu

1/30/2013

2:33 PM

RT @teflerinha: #eltchat Giving feedback in a helpful way is about interpersonal skills- and can be taught if ss are willing.

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:33 PM

@KerrCarolyn  #ELTChat principles same

BobK99

1/30/2013

2:33 PM

MT @KerrCarolyn: @teflerinha @eltknowledge #ELTChat - ... I have the L's beam the  work on the wall and edit together > Higher tech? Ideas?

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:34 PM

@Marisa_C @eltnotebook Also have activity in In business which deals with how sth is sold, not just language. #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:34 PM

we had someone with a timer #eltchat

chiasuan

1/30/2013

2:34 PM

RT @teflerinha: @chiasuan @Marisa_C #eltchat Also fab lesson on Lessonstream with elevator pitch- used this as part of Dragon's Den less ...

chiasuan

1/30/2013

2:34 PM

@Marisa_C Totally! But I think it's easier when sts are givin feedbk on sthg external like an idea/product, & not sthg personal. #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:34 PM

@BobK99  #ELTChat or with less tech classes put all the work up gallery style - i did one for best joke - criterion was laughing time :-D

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:35 PM

And of course a private blog or posterous space is great for comments which can be moderated and commented on by T #ELTchat

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:35 PM

@KerrCarolyn @BobK99 @teflerinha I'm sure Google Docs, Ning, or any collaborative platform would work perfectly. #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:35 PM

@chiasuan @Marisa_C @eltnotebook Great idea - have done this in a similar way as well. #eltchat

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:35 PM

@KerrCarolyn @Marisa_C Yes- ideal for written work #eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:35 PM

@BobK99 @teflerinha @eltknowledge #ELTChat - Hmm I'd never thought of using Google Docs, but that could work too?

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:36 PM

@yesseniacgr @chiasuan @Marisa_C Agreed :) #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:36 PM

Also reworked interview activity with observers who give feedback on both parties. #eltchat

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:36 PM

RT @AlexandraKouk: #eltchat what constitutes constructive fb and how to receive it: http://t.co/fjcYCeWs

touqo

1/30/2013

2:36 PM

The one giving (constructive) feedback should also get something out of it. How does me giving feedback help me in my own tasks? #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:36 PM

RT @AlexandraKouk: #eltchat what constitutes constructive fb and how to receive it: http://t.co/fjcYCeWs

yesseniacgr

1/30/2013

2:36 PM

@chiasuan @Marisa_C Yes, less intimidating this way #eltchat

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:36 PM

#eltchat what constitutes constructive fb and how to receive it: http://t.co/fjcYCeWs

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:37 PM

@touqo #ELTChat - also you can 'Demand High' on the feedback - full sentences, using modals properly, formulating advice, etc

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:37 PM

What about fb from colleagues? Just got depressing email about this. #eltchat Do we need to start there?

billpellowe

1/30/2013

2:37 PM

#eltchat Is it possible to focus too much on peer feedback? With large classes, we need technology (surveys, etc) or small groups

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:37 PM

So it looks as if we all agree on the value of incuding this as a regular feature - then well worth including in our syllabuses? #Eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:37 PM

@touqo #ELTChat - how about highlighting the skills (lang and interpersonal) you build by giving feedback?

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:38 PM

Expanding on @MarjorieRosenbe 's idea,we had a pretend press conference,& later the press feedbacked on the panel & vice versa. #eltchat

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:38 PM

RT @teflerinha: #eltchat What about accepting feedback as well?! Some people find this very hard- can we help them?

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:38 PM

#eltchat What about accepting feedback as well?! Some people find this very hard- can we help them?

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:38 PM

@touqo Helps you far more than the others. raises your awareness, so you can improve your own performance #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:38 PM

@billpellowe  #eltchat very good point - can take time - perhaps 'keys' or models stuck on walls for groups to cross-check?

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:39 PM

@teflerinha That's an interesting point. I knew a trainer who went around telling people they couldn't cope w feedbk & were clingy! #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:39 PM

@teflerinha  #eltchat Great point Rachael - have found this to be true the higher the level and often abt pronunciation

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:39 PM

@AlexandraKouk #eltchat Think accepting fb is about recognising that it isn't criticiing YOU. The way it's phrased can help with this.

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:39 PM

@teflerinha #ELTChat - I've  modeled 'accepting' feedback - I do a terrible presentation and have the L's give me feedback on how bad it was

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:39 PM

@teflerinha That's why I tell them what they did well. #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:40 PM

@eltknowledge #eltchat So did I...

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:40 PM

@teflerinha #eltchat v.true - fb should be about the product , never the person!

yesseniacgr

1/30/2013

2:40 PM

@KerrCarolyn @touqo also that Ss becomes aware of what to do and not. Being self reflective also a skill #eltchat

touqo

1/30/2013

2:40 PM

@eltnotebook then THAT should be explained so that everyone gets it. #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:40 PM

@KerrCarolyn #eltchat Yes, modelling accepting fb v important- and on 'real' stuff too.

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:41 PM

@AlexandraKouk @teflerinha And to person, not to another one. #eltchat

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:41 PM

@KerrCarolyn @teflerinha Yes, a teacher acting as a good example of what he/she preaches is the best way. #eltchat

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:41 PM

@KerrCarolyn @touqo Agree totally with Carolyn. And get the evaluator to provide the improvement. #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:41 PM

@eltknowledge  #eltchat haha ... some can't - perhaps bcz trainees and possibly ss react emotianally

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:41 PM

@teflerinha @AlexandraKouk It needs to be about behavior or ability and not on identity level. 'You are fine but let's fix ..' #eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:41 PM

@Marisa_C @teflerinha #ELTCHat - on pronunciation I've tried a  'contract' with people - they sign up for what correction they want

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:42 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat Yes, absolutely. 'A mistake is a gift to the class'.

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:42 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat Yes, think some higher level learners are more sensitive bcause they are perfectionists- which has allowed them 2 do well

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:42 PM

@Marisa_C Totally. Ability to be open to criticism & feebk is a very personal thing & I wonder if it can be taught? #eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:42 PM

@yesseniacgr @touqo #ELTChat - yes - giving yourself feedback first (usually written) helps a lot here. They know what 2 expect from peers

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:42 PM

@teflerinha  #eltchat Should we perhaps not make it clear from the start that errors/mistakes a VITAL part of learning? Not bad learning?

BobK99

1/30/2013

2:43 PM

@Marisa_C  #eltchat Yes. I always quote my father: 'If tha nivver med a mistek tha nivver med owt' ;-)

touqo

1/30/2013

2:43 PM

@KerrCarolyn good suggestions and I agree. But does a student when deciding whether 2 give feedback to others or work on own stuff? #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:43 PM

@chiasuan @Marisa_C > I like that :) #eltchat

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:43 PM

@touqo  Yes, definitely #eltchat learners should understand the rationale behind everything they do

chiasuan

1/30/2013

2:43 PM

@Marisa_C @teflerinha I always say that on Day 1 of every course. Mistakes are good. If u don't make them, I don't have a job. #eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:43 PM

@eltnotebook @touqo #ELTChat - yes - everyone benefits here - the person giving and receiving. Gets people reflecting on how to improve!!

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:43 PM

RT @teflerinha: @Marisa_C #eltchat Yes, absolutely. 'A mistake is a gift to the class'. > I love this

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:44 PM

@KerrCarolyn #eltchat offhand, I'd say they're not realising their full potential

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:44 PM

I think giving feedbk on lexicogrammar/pron issues is not as difficult as giving feedbk on discourse issues. #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:44 PM

@eltknowledge @Marisa_C Global learners normally take it personally, analytics can see fb as factual. #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:44 PM

RT @BobK99: @Marisa_C  #eltchat Yes. I always quote my father: 'If tha nivver med a mistek tha nivver med owt' ;-)

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:44 PM

@chiasuan ha ha i say that too - keep me in my job  #eltchat or... 'you re not making mistakes, you're not learning or taking risks" :-)

touqo

1/30/2013

2:44 PM

RT @KerrCarolyn: @eltnotebook @touqo #ELTChat - yes - everyone benefits here - the person giving and receiving. Gets people reflecting o ...

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:44 PM

@eltknowledge @Marisa_C #ELTChat - what are the consequences for people who cannot deal with feedback?

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:45 PM

@touqo #ELTChat - but then this is in small groups. How would it work in your classes?

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:45 PM

@chiasuan @Marisa_C @teflerinha and when they make a mistake, I tell them that they will never make it again. #eltchat

touqo

1/30/2013

2:45 PM

What if giving feedback was "sold" to people differently? Helping yourself in addition (or even instead of) helping others? #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:45 PM

@KerrCarolyn @eltknowledge @Marisa_C #eltchat Ultimately much harder to learn if u can't deal w fb. That's what they're paying u for.

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:45 PM

@touqo #ELTChat - I try to make it into a core part of the class. And by 'demanding High' on both the content and language they all gain

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:45 PM

RT @eltknowledge: I think giving feedbk on lexicogrammar/pron issues is not as difficult as giving feedbk on discourse issues. #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:45 PM

@chiasuan @Marisa_C @teflerinha I also tell them present perfect was invented to keep us working. #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:45 PM

@BobK99 cool  #eltchat :-D

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:45 PM

@Marisa_C @teflerinha Yes an focus on "improvement" rather than "correction" or criticism #eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:46 PM

@teflerinha @eltknowledge @Marisa_C #ELTCHat - I think its a vital life skill too- especially when working with others.

chiasuan

1/30/2013

2:46 PM

@MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C @teflerinha I tell them that about the supposed 3 conditionals. : ) #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:46 PM

There is some controversial research abt the effects of giving feedback not handy to me - anyone able to share any links to that?#ELTchat

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:46 PM

RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @eltknowledge @Marisa_C Global learners normally take it personally, analytics can see fb as factual. #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:46 PM

RT @eltnotebook: @Marisa_C @teflerinha Yes an focus on "improvement" rather than "correction" or criticism #eltchat > Yes, better angle.

BobK99

1/30/2013

2:46 PM

@Marisa_C  #eltchat (Translated, of course!)

touqo

1/30/2013

2:46 PM

RT @eltnotebook: @touqo  Yes, definitely #eltchat learners should understand the rationale behind everything they do

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:47 PM

Do you ever use old recordings of class activities for students to give feedback to themselves? Just to evaluate own progress #ELTchat

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:48 PM

Encouragin peer feedbk could b seen differently dependin on the #culture we're in.Some might see the teacher as not doin their job. #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:48 PM

@KerrCarolyn @eltknowledge @Marisa_C #eltchat Ultimately, content aside, it's about developing empathy, which has to be top life skill.

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:48 PM

@AlexandraKouk #ELTChat - it's a bit like part of the path to growth - wanting to see how others perceive you and address it

yesseniacgr

1/30/2013

2:49 PM

RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @teflerinha @eltnotebook @Marisa_C Also tell them better to make mistake in class than out in real world. #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:49 PM

@eltknowledge #eltchat Well, yes, if the T not involved at all, but if T sets it up, monitors adds stuff, OK in my experience.

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:49 PM

@AlexandraKouk  #eltchat yes thanks Alexandroula - had that in my diigo but my fingers not fast enough today

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:49 PM

Have stories about my doozies in German - gets them laughing and they realise mistakes are normal. #eltchat

chiasuan

1/30/2013

2:49 PM

@Marisa_C For classes that go over a long period of time, that's a great idea! #eltchat

yesseniacgr

1/30/2013

2:49 PM

RT @teflerinha: @KerrCarolyn @eltknowledge @Marisa_C #eltchat Ultimately, content aside, it's about developing empathy, which has to be  ...

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:49 PM

is this what u meant @marisa_C Corrective Feedback in Second Language Acquisition

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:49 PM

@Marisa_C #ELTChat - I use audio / video from the start of the course at the end - and ask them to self feedback on where they've improved

touqo

1/30/2013

2:49 PM

@KerrCarolyn I am not an educator (but work in education) but the same applies in worklife, too. Common goal helps giving feedback. #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:49 PM

@eltknowledge  #culture #eltchat very true - t's job to correct etc

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:49 PM

@teflerinha @eltnotebook @Marisa_C Also tell them better to make mistake in class than out in real world. #eltchat

BobK99

1/30/2013

2:50 PM

MT @Marisa_C...old recordings of class activities for students to give fdbk to themselves? ... #ELTchat > Brill! Consider yrself plagiarized

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:50 PM

@AlexandraKouk there's more - will fish it out and put on blog after summary  #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:51 PM

@KerrCarolyn @Marisa_C #eltchat Good one!

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:51 PM

@teflerinha @Marisa_C #ELTChat - yes - and it can help them define they're next language goals too! Carry forward into next term!

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:51 PM

@BobK99  #ELTchat rats and I hadn't even written a post about it :-D

StanzaSL

1/30/2013

2:51 PM

RT @BobK99: @Marisa_C  #eltchat Yes. I always quote my father: 'If tha nivver med a mistek tha nivver med owt' ;-)

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:52 PM

@eltnotebook @eltknowledge #eltchat > Yes, indeed.

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:52 PM

For YLs an idea from a research project in UK mainstream ed - support and give feedback to sb in an earlier level #ELTchat results bril

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:52 PM

And if they are perfect, then we can all go home. #eltchat

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:52 PM

@teflerinha @eltknowledge And if they know they're doing it to raise their own awareness and thus improve their own performance #eltchat

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:52 PM

@Marisa_C Here's the download link http://t.co/weH4txsh #eltchat

touqo

1/30/2013

2:53 PM

Are there ever cases where anonymous feedback is more appopriate than face2face? Or does it end up in flaming? #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:53 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat Can believe that. My own kids don't like fb from peers, but fine from older kids.

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:53 PM

@UNIRidiomas Indeed - I think perhaps we should not coney the message that the t NEVER corrects or gives feedback #ELtchat

MrsSmithLA

1/30/2013

2:54 PM

RT @ShellTerrell: A wiki activity to introduce insight into Wikipedia http://t.co/gCXoI4c4 by @seburnt #eltchat

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:54 PM

@teflerinha @eltnotebook So it is impt 4 the teacher 2 let sts knw the benefits of peer feedbk,&2 monitor & add2 what sts r saying. #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:54 PM

RT @teflerinha: @Marisa_C #eltchat Can believe that. My own kids don't like fb from peers, but fine from older kids.

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:54 PM

Can be seen as complete abdication of responsibility in some education cultures #ELTchat

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:55 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat great idea, but will have to be monitored by T first?

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:55 PM

@Marisa_C #ELTChat - true - but it forms part of 'intercultural awareness' if the aim of the leaners is to work or study abroad

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:55 PM

@eltknowledge @eltnotebook #eltchat I'd say so. Think ss need to feel you haven't abdicated..

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:55 PM

@touqo  #eltchat good point abt anonymous feedback - what do u think ?

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:56 PM

Cooperative learning techniques have great ideas for peer fb - called interdependent groups. #eltchat

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:56 PM

@teflerinha @eltknowledge @eltnotebook #ELTChat - I always check off my own feedback points, as the peers give FB. T is active, not shirking

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:56 PM

@eltknowledge  #eltchat perhaps best on blogs where T always knows who wrote it

touqo

1/30/2013

2:56 PM

@Marisa_C it might be easier to state your own ignorance. But at the same time waaay easier to bash others. Maybe needs moderation. #eltchat

BobK99

1/30/2013

2:56 PM

@Marisa_C  #eltchat (Time for our four  minute warning, I think :))

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:56 PM

@Marisa_C @touqo I'm very wary of anonymous feedbk coz it brings out the worst in some. eg. Youtube comments. #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:56 PM

@AlexandraKouk  #eltchat Haven't worked it out yet - just throwing ideas up in the air here :-D

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:57 PM

@Marisa_C  #eltchat If critical awareness is seen as a learning aim the T can evaluate the evaluators. (continuing)

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:57 PM

RT @BobK99: @Marisa_C  #eltchat (Time for our four  minute warning, I think :)) > Why? You offering? I have pre-bookings :-D

KerrCarolyn

1/30/2013

2:57 PM

@MarjorieRosenbe #ELTChat - do you have any links to these techniques - or references?

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:57 PM

@eltknowledge @Marisa_C @touqo #eltchat Yes, I tend to agree. Not sure what the benefit is, and definite possible drawbacks.

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

2:58 PM

#eltchat Sum up: T should model fb, negotiate criteria with ss, teach nec. language and discourse skills and observe/monitor results?

BobK99

1/30/2013

2:58 PM

@Marisa_C  #eltchat I can stand the disappointment! (Some other time...)

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:58 PM

@eltknowledge  #eltchat yes - so perhaps handed to T who "anonymizes" it?

touqo

1/30/2013

2:58 PM

@eltknowledge @Marisa_C that is very true. Maybe needs moderation by the teacher --> teacher becomes a bottle neck. #eltchat

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:58 PM

@teflerinha @Marisa_C @touqo I can see how anonymous feedbk could lead to more honesty,but also more vindictive bullying behaviour. #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

2:59 PM

@MarjorieRosenbe #eltchat Thank YOU!

chiasuan

1/30/2013

2:59 PM

RT @AlexandraKouk: #eltchat Sum up: T should model fb, negotiate criteria with ss, teach nec. language and discourse skills and observe/ ...

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:59 PM

What's tonight's topic? #eltchat

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

2:59 PM

@Marisa_C That's definitely a possibility. #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

2:59 PM

@BobK99  #eltchat Would u like to pre-book this evening's?

eltnotebook

1/30/2013

2:59 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat have done that with pre-sess Ss from some cultures. they develop the skills but feel the T is "there". It's a bridge..

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

2:59 PM

Love this PLN - really uplifting when negative situations seem to take over in reality. Thanks everyone! #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

3:00 PM

@touqo #eltchat That's true, I hadn't thought of that, but still...

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

3:00 PM

@BobK99  #eltchat great pls remember to DM me

dianatremayne

1/30/2013

3:00 PM

@Marisa_C #ELTchat feedback with marks has negative effect - most positive feedback is comments only. Not sure of links though

touqo

1/30/2013

3:00 PM

@teflerinha the benefit would be that it is easier 2 state your ignorance on something but might be the costs outweigh the benefits #eltchat

BobK99

1/30/2013

3:00 PM

@Marisa_C  #eltchat Not pms, I'm afraid. Next Wed 12?

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

3:00 PM

One minute before the end of this #eltchat - my fingers are on fire - thanks ever so much to all of your and to @teflerinha for her help :-)

yesseniacgr

1/30/2013

3:00 PM

RT @eltknowledge: @Marisa_C @touqo For anonymous FB id suggest checklists so the comments are "controlled" #eltchat

teflerinha

1/30/2013

3:01 PM

@Marisa_C @dianatremayne #eltchat I've definitely read this too. Think might have link on my blog...I'll check.

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

3:01 PM

@teflerinha  #eltchat Hey I felt I had someone who was catching what I was missing :-D

AlexandraKouk

1/30/2013

3:01 PM

RT @eltknowledge: Thanks everyone for yet another inspiring #eltchat !

teflerinha

1/30/2013

3:01 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat No problem, for whatever it was I did ;)

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

3:01 PM

Thanks everyone for yet another inspiring #eltchat !

chiasuan

1/30/2013

3:01 PM

Thanks everyone for yet another inspiring #eltchat !

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

3:01 PM

RT @dianatremayne: @Marisa_C #ELTchat feedback with marks has negative effect - most positive feedback is comments only. Not sure of links

MarjorieRosenbe

1/30/2013

3:02 PM

@chiasuan Agree - inspiring it was! Have a good day all! #eltchat

BobK99

1/30/2013

3:02 PM

#eltchat Bye all, and thanks for the shot in the arm!

touqo

1/30/2013

3:03 PM

RT @eltknowledge: Thanks everyone for yet another inspiring #eltchat !

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

3:03 PM

OK am off to get transcript for  @KerrCarolyn  #ELTChat - see you all on the second chat today on YLs balancing cooperation vs competition

yesseniacgr

1/30/2013

3:03 PM

@Marisa_C @eltknowledge definitely or the point could be missed #eltchat

yesseniacgr

1/30/2013

3:04 PM

RT @AlexandraKouk: #eltchat Sum up: T should model fb, negotiate criteria with ss, teach nec. language and discourse skills and observe/ ...

english247

1/30/2013

3:05 PM

#English for beginners - learn basic words for winter weather & clothing http://t.co/opPFI6iH #engpls #eltchat #kids #esl #efl #k12 #sped

yesseniacgr

1/30/2013

3:06 PM

Thank you all for a great day stater #eltchat

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

3:07 PM

RT @SophiaMav: RT @syded06: The Importance Of Creativity In The Classroom http://t.co/FdppKW1M via @zite  #education #edchat #ELTchat

cherrymp

1/30/2013

3:07 PM

#Pearson Recruiting Examiners http://t.co/4AxdPNcM #eltchat #iatefl

HenriSimula

1/30/2013

3:09 PM

@touqo well, academic peer to peer review is traditionally double blind process... At least in theory #eltchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

3:10 PM

Here is the pdf of the research "effect of correctv fb on st writing' http://t.co/zBw08zjR #ELTchat - one i meant to share

skoladave

1/30/2013

3:11 PM

RT @Marisa_C: In any forms of T or peer evaluation the criteria should be public and known in advance #ELtchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

3:12 PM

and some more results of which fb works best here http://t.co/rVgQ6lWz #ELTchat

eltknowledge

1/30/2013

3:13 PM

RT @Marisa_C: and some more results of which fb works best here http://t.co/rVgQ6lWz #ELTchat

Marisa_C

1/30/2013

 

@teflerinha #eltchat Thanks! " Raising Standards Through Classroom Assessment" http://t.co/RpbvBecM

 

Comments (0)

You don't have permission to comment on this page.