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What makes a lesson great- Fave lessons The ones we do over and over again and always work

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Here is the transcript of #eltchat on 09.01.2013 on What makes a lesson great? Fave lessons-The ones we do over and over again and always work.

 

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Shaunwilden 12:00 PM The 12GMT #eltchat is What makes a lesson great? Fave lessons-The ones we do over & over again and always work.
BobK99 12:00 PM RT @Shaunwilden: Everyone ready for the first #eltchat of the year? > Yup, rarin' to go :)
teflerinha 12:00 PM #eltchat I find fav lessons like jokes..I can never remember more than a vague impression and have to reinvent the wheel..should keep a note
Shaunwilden 12:01 PM RT @PaulIhcordoba: #eltchat any lesson when students have that look that says 'I got it and can use it'! Usually comes with a smile.
Shaunwilden 12:01 PM Right fave lessons then, what's good about 'em #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:02 PM RT @teflerinha: #eltchat I find fav lessons like jokes..I can never remember more than a vague impression and have to reinvent the wheel ...
worldteacher 12:02 PM @Shaunwilden My best lessons are engaging and usually involve all four skills. #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:02 PM RT @Shaunwilden: The 12GMT #eltchat is What makes a lesson great? Fave lessons-The ones we do over & over again and always work. Why ...
teflerinha 12:02 PM #eltchat For me, it something which flows effortlessly, completely engaging stds and leading to satisfying outcome (easier said than done!)
eltknowledge 12:03 PM RT @BrunoELT: “@Shaunwilden: The 12GMT #eltchat is What makes a lesson great? Fave lessons-The ones we do over & over again & always work.”
Shaunwilden 12:03 PM @teflerinha Are they the ones you have planned meticulously? #eltchat
GemL1 12:03 PM @Shaunwilden one's which teach Ss more than just eng skills r normally successful #eltchat
teflerinha 12:03 PM @worldteacher @Shaunwilden > Agree integrated skills lessons seem to contribute to sense of effortless progression #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:04 PM Well, my favorite lesson to teach sometimes is so different than my student's .#eltchat
TPMcDonald85 12:04 PM #eltchat My favourite lessons are the ones which were well planned, engaging, energetic and fun.
AlexandraKouk 12:04 PM @Shaunwilden not necessarily - sometimes it just happens! #eltchat
worldteacher 12:04 PM @Shaunwilden @teflerinha My favourite lessons don't require much planning - I've used them so often! #eltchat
eltknowledge 12:04 PM Hi everyone! Happy New Year! My fav lessons are usually interesting tasks that bring out lots of language from the sts. #eltchat
teflerinha 12:04 PM @Shaunwilden Think there are well planned ones that work again and again, but also spontaneous ones that are more about chemistry #eltchat
prese1 12:04 PM #eltchat sometimes the ones you spend less time planning are the ones that work best
eltknowledge 12:05 PM RT @yitzha_sarwono: Well, my favorite lesson to teach sometimes is so different than my student's .#eltchat
teflerinha 12:05 PM @worldteacher @Shaunwilden But you probably spent time planning originally? #eltchat
GemL1 12:05 PM @Shaunwilden oops ones not one's! #eltchat
kevchanwow 12:05 PM I'm spending the next 55 minutes in #eltchat hope to see you there
eltknowledge 12:05 PM But I think we all realise very quickly that a lesson that works well with 1 group could fall flat on its face with another! #eltchat
teflerinha 12:05 PM @yitzha_sarwono Yes, that's true..did you see @hughdellar 's latest post on that? #eltchat
AlexandraKouk 12:05 PM RT @yitzha_sarwono: Well, my favorite lesson to teach sometimes is so different than my student's .#eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:05 PM RT @worldteacher: @Shaunwilden My best lessons are engaging and usually involve all four skills. #eltchat
worldteacher 12:06 PM @teflerinha @Shaunwilden Of course!! :-) #eltchat
miss_Trika 12:06 PM @BrunoELT could not join today's #eltchat :( Have a great sharing time all!
BobK99 12:06 PM MT @teflerinha: #eltchat ...leading to satisfying outcome (easier said than done!) > This is the key: 'Fave lessons'  too easy w/o  gd o/cm.
GemL1 12:06 PM @BrunoELT agree collaboration lessons r alwasy good as well as project work. #eltchat
worldteacher 12:06 PM RT @eltknowledge: I think we all realisethat a lesson that works well with 1 group could fall flat with another! #eltchat >Absolutely!!
teflerinha 12:06 PM RT @BrunoELT: #eltchat My fave lesson are those in which sts collaborate and learn from each other with some help from me. > agreed
eltknowledge 12:07 PM There is 1 task I used to use: It was called 'How to murder your teacher'. Sts hotseat the teacher then plan the perfect murder. #eltchat
teflerinha 12:07 PM @BobK99 #eltchat Yes, I agree. It's important there is a sense of having really learnt something useful or developed in some way.
worldteacher 12:07 PM RT @BrunoELT: #eltchat My fave lesson are those in which sts collaborate and learn from each other with some help from me. >Agreed!
Shaunwilden 12:07 PM @worldteacher @eltknowledge Yes I agree,which is why I am not a fan of the staffroom 'this a g8 lesson try it' comments #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:08 PM As I'm teaching Kindergarten, I love teaching about Phonics, blends and cluster but my students fave is early grammar #eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:08 PM @eltknowledge I guess as you're still here, they've never managed to carry it off :-) #eltchat
teflerinha 12:09 PM @BrunoELT @yitzha_sarwono @hughdellar http://t.co/iPl52DWQ Talks about lessons you love, but that don't teach much of use. #eltchat
GemL1 12:09 PM @yitzha_sarwono really wow you have keen students! my students fave is any kind of game! #eltchat
worldteacher 12:09 PM @eltknowledge On the same theme 1 of my faves is a news story - Teacher Disappears, Students Suspected - is there a theme here? :-) #eltchat
teflerinha 12:09 PM @eltknowledge #eltchat LOL I can see that working very well with certain classes..teenage boys?
prese1 12:10 PM @teflerinha Thanx Rachael #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:10 PM @teflerinha @hughdellar No I haven't, but will check it out then. Thanks #eltchat
eltknowledge 12:10 PM @Shaunwilden Absolutely! The best advice 2 teachrs who r stuck w a difficult class is 2find out abt sts rather thn suggest lessons. #eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:10 PM RT @teflerinha: @BrunoELT @yitzha_sarwono @hughdellar http://t.co/iPl52DWQ Talks about lessons you love, but that don't teach much of us ...
eltknowledge 12:11 PM @GemL1 @yitzha_sarwono I have students who love games too…any kind of competitive element and they are stoked! #eltchat
prese1 12:11 PM @eltknowledge agree! #eltchat
kevchanwow 12:11 PM Lessons that take advantage of Ss dynamics work well. "Used to..." With mixed age groups goes down well in Japan. #eltchat
eltknowledge 12:11 PM @Shaunwilden I guess the 'How to murder your teacher' task gave sts cathartic release for the hate they feel twds me! hahaha… #eltchat
jo_cummins 12:12 PM #eltchat I think my faves are all lessons that are coherent, stand alone and the sts come out feeling they have learnt something 'concrete'.
Shaunwilden 12:12 PM So the initial tweets suggest a common thing is sts collaboration  #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:12 PM @GemL1 Well, that's because I would bring toys and pictures and we'll have simple drama just to explain about it #eltchat
teflerinha 12:12 PM #eltchat I find std generated materials can help engage stds. Used to have gr8 lesson which involved drawing a house & roleplay #forgottenit
worldteacher 12:12 PM @BrunoELT @Shaunwilden @eltknowledge Me, too - I like to take ideas from colleagues & tailor for my sts - all abt knowing your sts. #eltchat
teflerinha 12:13 PM @worldteacher Ooh, think I remember sthg similar to that- parts of the body with YLs? #eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:13 PM @teflerinha Ooo teasing use with an idea then tell us you've #forgottenit! #eltchat
worldteacher 12:13 PM @teflerinha Sounds silmilar to a 'create an alien' activity which I've used to great effect! #eltchat
GemL1 12:13 PM @yitzha_sarwono ok sounds like fun then! I've started using more drama recently and happy with the results #eltchat
teflerinha 12:13 PM RT @jo_cummins: #eltchat I think my faves are all lessons that are coherent, stand alone and the sts come out feeling they have learnt s ...
worldteacher 12:14 PM @teflerinha Yes - used it with adults, too here in Vietnam - they loved it!! #eltchat
teflerinha 12:14 PM @Shaunwilden #eltchat Wish I could remember. Gr8 standby lesson (which is often when reusable lessons get trotted out..4 better or worse
chiasuan 12:14 PM @teflerinha I did the 'describe ur house & ur partner draws it' info gap& turns out my Saudi st had a huge fountain in his hallway! #eltchat
kevchanwow 12:14 PM Gonna play devils advocate, but maybe it's not the lesson, but the difficulty. Just difficult enough=engaging. No games needed #eltchat
worldteacher 12:14 PM RT @Shaunwilden: So the initial tweets suggest a common thing is sts collaboration  #eltchat > Yes - dare I mention TBL at this point?
prese1 12:15 PM @jenjdobson agree! #eltchat
teflerinha 12:15 PM @chiasuan That's nice- like it when something surprises you. Like Polish ss whose wardrobes were always in the living room..#eltchat
jenjdobson 12:15 PM #eltchat hi all :) new here. I think I have more fav bits of lessons than whole lessons, because of natural changes that evolve.
Shaunwilden 12:15 PM @kevchanwow I agree with you, I think games often focus on the fun rather than the actual language outcomes #eltchat
eltknowledge 12:15 PM @BrunoELT @worldteacher @Shaunwilden Urgh…I hate it when people say that! I admit there r difficult grps. But no impossible ones. #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:16 PM RT @chiasuan: @teflerinha I did the 'describe ur house & ur partner draws it' info gap& turns out my Saudi st had a huge fountai ...
eltknowledge 12:16 PM @GemL1 @kevchanwow A task with the right level of difficulty does not mean its engaging or personalised tho… #eltchat
teflerinha 12:16 PM @Shaunwilden @kevchanwow > Also agree. I like a strong topic, several skills and language input with a satisfying outcome. #eltchat
michaelegriffin 12:16 PM MT @Shaunwilden I am not a fan of the staffroom 'this a gr8 lesson try it' comments #eltchat > I am right with you on that one.
yitzha_sarwono 12:16 PM @GemL1 exactly, it is easier for them to understand the use of V1-V2 when we have simple drama to explain it #eltchat
GemL1 12:16 PM @kevchanwow but the material/activity needs to be engaging as well as the right level #eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:16 PM @jenjdobson Welcome :-) You make a valid point is any lesson ever the same? #eltchat
kevchanwow 12:17 PM Funny, but it's much easier to identify what makes a terrible lesson than a good one.  #eltchat
teflerinha 12:17 PM @jenjdobson Yes, very good point> this happens to me partly because can't remember lessons (!) but also like unpicking and remaking #eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:17 PM @teflerinha @chiasuan And then after hours to correct it to cupboard, you realize it is actually a wardrobe  ;-) #eltchat
jo_cummins 12:18 PM #eltchat I suppose a great lesson is a combination of material/students/teacher/planets aligning...
teflerinha 12:18 PM @Shaunwilden @chiasuan #eltchat Yes, precisely. Keeps us on our toes...
Shaunwilden 12:18 PM @kevchanwow Really? #eltchat
prese1 12:19 PM @worldteacher @teflerinha or "has the lesson ended?" #eltchat
eltknowledge 12:19 PM @jo_cummins Oh, planets aligning is a very important one. Do not underestimate it! #eltchat
michaelegriffin 12:19 PM Is student learning a factor? @kevchanwow  #ELTchat
kevchanwow 12:19 PM If a task (like summarizing paragraph) isnt broken into digestible steps, it's gonna fail. But properly sequenced lessons also fail #eltchat
teflerinha 12:19 PM RT @worldteacher: For me, I know it's a good lesson when students forget to remind me that it's break time!! #eltchat
michaelegriffin 12:19 PM RT @kevchanwow: Funny, but it's much easier to identify what makes a terrible lesson than a good one.  #eltchat
eltknowledge 12:19 PM @Shaunwilden @teflerinha Haha! I didn't knw tht! Well,my other sts did feel inferior when they realisd how big this st's house was. #eltchat
worldteacher 12:19 PM For me, I know it's a good lesson when students forget to remind me that it's break time!! #eltchat
teflerinha 12:20 PM @michaelegriffin @kevchanwow #eltchat Not necessarily students learning bcos we can't control that, but being engaged & potential 4 learning
eltknowledge 12:20 PM @michaelegriffin @kevchanwow That's a really good pt, Michael. Fav/Good lessons aren't just be abt enjoyment, but also learning. #eltchat
GemL1 12:20 PM @worldteacher For me, I know it's a good lesson when Ss forget to remind me that it's break time -agree or don't notice the bell! #eltchat
teflerinha 12:20 PM @eltknowledge @Shaunwilden #eltchat Unfortunate, but a necess risk if personalising, I think. Though I don't do this activity with refugees
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LizziePinard 12:21 PM #eltchat hi all sorry am late lost track of time…! happy new year to all of you!
teflerinha 12:21 PM @kevchanwow #eltchat Think sequencing is really important (but, as u say, not a guarantee of a great lesson)
worldteacher 12:21 PM @SueAnnan HNY Sue! #eltchat
eltknowledge 12:21 PM @BrunoELT @worldteacher What's also great is if I myself say 'It's over already?' and don't feel the time passing! ; ) #eltchat
worldteacher 12:21 PM RT @BrunoELT: same happens to me: a great class is when class is over and they say "Already? I didn't notice time passing by!" #eltchat Yes!
SueAnnan 12:21 PM Hello and Happy New Year. I'm late but glad to join in #ELTchat
LizziePinard 12:22 PM @worldteacher thank you Andrea! #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:22 PM My ss fave lesson involves show & tell,something pink & a lot of laugh around the explanation from a goofy(but prepared to do so)me #eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:22 PM @SueAnnan Hi Sue ELTchat
worldteacher 12:22 PM @LizziePinard Happy New Year, Lizzie! #eltchat
ELTExperiences 12:22 PM Ohh #eltchat is now on. Glad to join. What are we talking about?
kevchanwow 12:22 PM @eltknowledge @geml1 but a task pitched at the right level, just by the sense of challenge and chance of success generates interest #eltchat
GemL1 12:22 PM RT @teflerinha: #eltchat Not necessarily students learning bcos we can't control that, but being engaged & potential 4 learning - agree
LizziePinard 12:22 PM RT @teflerinha: @michaelegriffin @kevchanwow #eltchat Not necessarily students learning bcos we can't control that, but being engaged &a ...
TPMcDonald85 12:22 PM @Shaunwilden @kevchanwow I think Ss always need some sort of activity, especially if class is after a long day of work. #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:23 PM RT @eltknowledge: @michaelegriffin @kevchanwow That's a really good pt, Michael. Fav/Good lessons aren't just be abt enjoyment, but also ...
SueAnnan 12:23 PM My favourite lesson is one where the students are engaged and doing most of the work:-) #ELTchat
teflerinha 12:23 PM @kevchanwow @eltknowledge @geml1 > definitely an important factor- which is why we have to be careful with #1sizefitsall lessons #eltchat
worldteacher 12:23 PM @ELTExperiences What makes a good lesson? #eltchat
eltknowledge 12:24 PM @teflerinha @kevchanwow @eltknowledge @geml1 Yeah! At IH, we called the '1-size-fits-all' lesson the 'boil-in-the-bag-lesson'! #eltchat
worldteacher 12:24 PM RT @jo_cummins: @eltknowledge @BrunoELT @worldteacher or you say class is over and there is a groan! #eltchat >Even better!!
michaelegriffin 12:24 PM #ELTchat (re: student learning) RT @ColeenMonroe Really? I'm sorry, but I thought that was a teacher's job in every lesson.
jo_cummins 12:24 PM @eltknowledge @BrunoELT @worldteacher or you say class is over and there is a groan! #eltchat
SueAnnan 12:24 PM @Shaunwilden Hi Shaun #ELTchat
GemL1 12:24 PM @kevchanwow @eltknowledge i think other factors play a big role too - type of task, topic etc #eltchat
prese1 12:24 PM RT @SueAnnan: My favourite lesson is one where the students are engaged and doing most of the work:-) #ELTchat
kevchanwow 12:25 PM I think a great lesson has room for us as teachers to really learn and stretch as well. #eltchat
teflerinha 12:25 PM @ColeenMonroe @michaelegriffin @kevchanwow It's a teacher's job to provide gr8 conditions for learning...not to make them learn #eltchat
SueAnnan 12:25 PM I'm not sure I have a lesson which doesn't change, according to the class makeup #ELTchat
ELTExperiences 12:25 PM Just joining #eltchat now. What is a stereotypical good lesson? Sorry for joining late. Happy new year all.
teflerinha 12:26 PM @kevchanwow > Yes, I agree. Think a gr8 lesson fully involves everyone in the room in learning, including us #eltchat
LizziePinard 12:26 PM @BrunoELT #eltchat thank you Bruno! it's good to be here! :)
eltknowledge 12:26 PM @ELTExperiences Hi Martin! Happy New Year! #eltchat
kevchanwow 12:26 PM When I think of the lessons I like to run year after year, they are the ones that allow the students to surprise me. #eltchat
michaelegriffin 12:26 PM @ColeenMonroe @kevchanwow I was suggesting that this *should be the measuring stick.Not sure it happens in every lesson though,TBH. #ELTchat
SueAnnan 12:26 PM RT @BrunoELT: Adaptability is a key issue for a successful lesson. What do you say? #eltchat I agree
chiasuan 12:26 PM @michaelegriffin @ColeenMonroe Sure,but st learning is so multifaceted& complex. Sometimes opportunities2just talk can b learning2. #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:26 PM RT @SueAnnan: My favourite lesson is one where the students are engaged and doing most of the work:-) #ELTchat
worldteacher 12:27 PM @SueAnnan @BrunoELT Do you mean the lesson should be adaptable 4 diff groups or that u should be able to adapt the lesson as u go? #eltchat
jo_cummins 12:27 PM RT@teflerinha It's a teacher's job to provide gr8 conditions for learning...not to make them learn #eltchat < Agreed!
LizziePinard 12:27 PM RT @kevchanwow: When I think of the lessons I like to run year after year, they are the ones that allow the students to surprise me. #el ...
kevchanwow 12:27 PM RT @eltknowledge: @teflerinha @kevchanwow @eltknowledge @geml1 Yeah! At IH, we called the '1-size-fits-all' lesson the 'boil-in-the-bag- ...
yitzha_sarwono 12:27 PM @kevchanwow That's a very awesome thought! Couldn't agree more #eltchat
teflerinha 12:27 PM RT @kevchanwow: When I think of the lessons I like to run year after year, they are the ones that allow the students to surprise me. #el ...
teflerinha 12:28 PM @chiasuan @michaelegriffin @ColeenMonroe @kevchanwow > Absolutely- and making sure soil is well tilled and watered! #eltchat
GemL1 12:28 PM @kevchanwow you put that so nicely! agree re students surprise you. #eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:28 PM Sorry had to go off for a few mins back now #ELTchat
worldteacher 12:28 PM @kevchanwow Can you give us an example? #eltchat
chiasuan 12:28 PM @michaelegriffin @ColeenMonroe @kevchanwow Yes,But hard2measure st learnin. Smetimes plantin seeds 4later 'realisatn' is learning2. #eltchat
teflerinha 12:28 PM #eltchat I think sequencing and integrating skills is imp because this contributes to effortless flow which helps ss to be fully engaged
teflerinha 12:29 PM @padgets #eltchat Agree that right level of challenge is important for engagement.
prese1 12:29 PM @worldteacher @SueAnnan @BrunoELT both...we also need to think on our feet and improvise if something goes wrong #eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:29 PM @padgets What's PBL?  #ELTchat
padgets 12:29 PM #eltchat good morning! Lurking today and just wanted to say my kids love lessons where PBL and gaming are involved...they love the challenge
Shaunwilden 12:29 PM RT @jo_cummins: RT@teflerinha It's a teacher's job to provide gr8 conditions for learning...not to make them learn #eltchat < Agreed!
worldteacher 12:29 PM RT @teflerinha: @kevchanwow > Yes, I agree. Think a gr8 lesson fully involves everyone in the room in learning, including us #eltchat >Yes!!
LizziePinard 12:30 PM RT @chiasuan: @michaelegriffin @ColeenMonroe @kevchanwow Yes,But hard2measure st learnin. Smetimes plantin seeds 4later 'realisatn' is l ...
yitzha_sarwono 12:30 PM @TPMcDonald85 Thanks. I'd try so hard to make the hard part bearable by making the explanation as easy as it can be for my 5yrs old #eltchat
teflerinha 12:30 PM @prese1 @worldteacher @SueAnnan @BrunoELT > Agree, important, as said many times, to teach class not lesson. #eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:31 PM RT @michaelegriffin: I am wondering if we are talking more about the causes of or requirements for good/fav lessons or the results of th ...
michaelegriffin 12:31 PM I am wondering if we are talking more about the causes of or requirements for good/fav lessons or the results of them. Or both? #ELTchat
teflerinha 12:31 PM @ColeenMonroe @michaelegriffin #eltchat U have to teach them how to learn, but think learning doesn't happen in linear predictable ways
worldteacher 12:31 PM RT @MikeInVietnam:haha this happened to me just today! As I said it was time to end, 1 student put his head in hands & said, "NOO!" #eltchat
LizziePinard 12:31 PM RT @teflerinha: @prese1 @worldteacher @SueAnnan @BrunoELT > Agree, important, as said many times, to teach class not lesson. #eltchat
vickyloras 12:31 PM RT @kevchanwow: When I think of the lessons I like to run year after year, they are the ones that allow the students to surprise me. #el ...
LauraGilchrist4 12:32 PM RT @kevchanwow: When I think of the lessons I like to run year after year, they are the ones that allow the students to surprise me. #el ...
Shaunwilden 12:32 PM @padgets Thanks  #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 12:32 PM @michaelegriffin Doesnt one lead to another?  #ELTchat
padgets 12:32 PM @Shaunwilden #eltchat problem or project based learning ‚ò∫
worldteacher 12:32 PM RT @prese1: @worldteacher @SueAnnan @BrunoELT both...we also need to think on our feet and improvise if something goes wrong #eltchat >Agree
SueAnnan 12:32 PM @worldteacher @BrunoELT I think both scenarios really #ELTChat
ELTExperiences 12:33 PM @michaelegriffin good point. Should we consider good lessons based upon teacher or student opinion? #eltchat
kevchanwow 12:33 PM RT @yitzha_sarwono: @TPMcDonald85 Thanks. I'd try so hard to make the hard part bearable by making the explanation as easy as it can be  ...
Shaunwilden 12:33 PM Are our fave lessons always the same ones as the sts fave lessons?  #ELTchat
SueAnnan 12:33 PM sorry. That was a short visit. Have to go- small emergency at this end :-( #ELTchat see you tonight
eltknowledge 12:33 PM @teflerinha @ColeenMonroe @michaelegriffin True!When we think of our fav lessns,we dn't often think of the 'Learner Autonomy' ones! #eltchat
kevchanwow 12:33 PM @worldteacher I like the redesign a house group task. it can be simplified by providing lexis or shifted to different conv. topic #eltchat
worldteacher 12:34 PM RT @Shaunwilden: Are our fave lessons always the same ones as the sts fave lessons?  #ELTchat >In my case, yes!
TPMcDonald85 12:34 PM What are our least favourite lessons? #eltchat
avatarsantenads 12:34 PM RT @TheConsultantsE: 12 Free Online Quiz Makers to Create Online Quizzes http://t.co/MNDa8CCp via @baibbb @mike08  #edtech #elearning #e ...
prese1 12:34 PM @Shaunwilden I don't think so #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:34 PM RT @michaelegriffin: I am wondering if we are talking more about the causes of or requirements for good/fav lessons or the results of th ...
worldteacher 12:34 PM @kevchanwow Great, thanks! #eltchat
worldteacher 12:35 PM RT @TPMcDonald85: What are our least favourite lessons? #eltchat Is this a separate #eltchat? Suggestion for next week, perhaps? :-)
teflerinha 12:35 PM @Shaunwilden #eltchat No, because stds (sometimes) just want to have fun. But if both enjoy and are satisfied prob a winner
Shaunwilden 12:35 PM RT @TPMcDonald85: What are our least favourite lessons? #eltchat
michaelegriffin 12:35 PM @Shaunwilden I suppose it does.. but I think (for me at least) it is useful to know what end of it I am thinking about. :) #ELTchat
eltknowledge 12:35 PM One of my favs is getting sts 2 give presentations on topics they've chosen. One student presentatn per lesson. Totally st-centred. #eltchat
GemL1 12:35 PM @Shaunwilden I think generally yes, when Ss enjoy a lesson I do too and vice versa. #eltchat
michaelegriffin 12:36 PM . @ColeenMonroe Sometimes I like 2 plan in terms of Knowledge, Skills, attitude or awareness. Which are different ways of planning #ELTchat
teflerinha 12:36 PM @eltknowledge #eltchat This can work very well BUT ss need to be taught how to give presentations or can be very dull
TPMcDonald85 12:37 PM @worldteacher I think it's imporatnt to reflect on the 'what went wrong' lessons as much as the favourite ones #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:37 PM RT @eltknowledge: One of my favs is getting sts 2 give presentations on topics they've chosen. One student presentatn per lesson. Totall ...
teflerinha 12:37 PM @ColeenMonroe Don't forget the hashtag, Coleen. I agree a bit of confusion can be motivating. #eltchat
ELTExperiences 12:37 PM Devil's advocate: the best lesson delivered in students opinion could be by a less qualified or professional teacher than ourselves #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:37 PM @Shaunwilden mostly not, but then again once my ss like it, I could grow fond of it too,because then the lesson would be fun #eltchat
worldteacher 12:38 PM @TPMcDonald85 Definitely!! I was only saying that it wasn't the topic of tonight's #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:38 PM @eltknowledge Me too! Only sometimes I just limit the topics to 4-5 only, otherwise the Q&A session after it would be a bit hard #eltchat
eltknowledge 12:38 PM @teflerinha I just get sts2pick a topic they want2share w the grp& limit it to 6-8 mins. So it's less presentatn but more sharin. #eltchat
prese1 12:38 PM @TPMcDonald85 @worldteacher agree...and how to change it too #eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:38 PM @ELTExperiences Yes i think it could e.g. I know sts who hate all this communicative stuff and love their teacher just to lecture  #ELTchat
teflerinha 12:38 PM @ColeenMonroe @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Anything which engages and makes ss think is good- but need optimum level of confusion #eltchat
BobK99 12:38 PM MT @yitzha_sarwono: @TPMcDonald85... making the explanation as easy as it can be for my 5yrs old #eltchat > And NO easier!  :)
kevchanwow 12:38 PM RT @michaelegriffin: . @ColeenMonroe Sometimes I like 2 plan in terms of Knowledge, Skills, attitude or awareness. Which are different w ...
yitzha_sarwono 12:39 PM RT @TPMcDonald85: @worldteacher I think it's imporatnt to reflect on the 'what went wrong' lessons as much as the favourite ones #eltchat
teflerinha 12:39 PM @ELTExperiences #eltchat Most popular teacher at 1 school was awful, went at snail's pace and talked ALL the time- but some stds adored him
GemL1 12:39 PM @ELTExperiences does less qualified or professional always = worse teacher? i#eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:40 PM @worldteacher @TPMcDonald85 Though having a least has some bearing on being able to teach a lesson that sts will say is their favei #ELTchat
ColeenMonroe 12:40 PM @teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin I don't mean linguistic confusion, but moral/societal. How's this? #eltchat http://t.co/KJI5tYH3
AlexandraKouk 12:40 PM So, being creative and having fun while problem solving  sounds like a good combination? #eltchat
ELTExperiences 12:40 PM @GemL1 I never said a worse teacher. #eltchat
eltknowledge 12:40 PM @teflerinha @ColeenMonroe @michaelegriffin @yitzha_sarwono Topics like my fav band,my hobby,my pet hate make for great presentatns. #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:41 PM @teflerinha @ELTExperiences Wow! I used to have that experience,til I realize I've learnt nothing but her favorite things only :-) #eltchat
teflerinha 12:41 PM @ColeenMonroe @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Looks like a very engaging lesson. Agree, good to give sthg for stds to chew on #eltchat
prese1 12:41 PM @ELTExperiences most popular teacher wasn't the most qualified...she had great inter personal skills #eltchat
eltknowledge 12:41 PM @teflerinha @ColeenMonroe @yitzha_sarwono Instead of topics, maybe limit genre of presentation? e.g. Instructional, Persuasive… #eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:42 PM @ELTExperiences Neither :-)  #ELTchat
ELTExperiences 12:42 PM @Shaunwilden if that's the case then what's the best teacher for a school? Lecturer or entertainer? #eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:42 PM @Marisa_C "Ello  #ELTchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:42 PM RT @prese1: @ELTExperiences most popular teacher wasn't the most qualified...she had great inter personal skills #eltchat
Marisa_C 12:42 PM Hello everyone - very sorry but got stuck in a difficult interview - will try to catch up #ELTchat
LizziePinard 12:43 PM RT @Marisa_C: @worldteacher happy new year and happy times Andrea and everyone!!!  #eltchat you too, M!
Marisa_C 12:43 PM @BrunoELT hello georgas #ELTchat
prese1 12:43 PM @ELTExperiences @Shaunwilden I'd say the one that keeps them engaged #eltchat
eltknowledge 12:43 PM @ColeenMonroe @teflerinha @michaelegriffin Any Koreans in the group? #eltchat
Marisa_C 12:43 PM @worldteacher happy new year and happy times Andrea and everyone!!!  #eltchat
eltknowledge 12:43 PM @GemL1 @ELTExperiences Similarly, very qualified does not = good teacher… #eltchat
ColeenMonroe 12:43 PM @teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Sheer shock is also important. My students freaked out when I brought out Kim Jong-un. #eltchat
teflerinha 12:43 PM #eltchat Haven't talked much about topic...related to ss interests or sthg completely new?
LizziePinard 12:43 PM RT @Shaunwilden: @ELTExperiences Neither :-)  #ELTchat what i was thinking!
worldteacher 12:43 PM Hi @Marisa_C Happy New Year! #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:43 PM RT @AlexandraKouk: So, being creative and having fun while problem solving  sounds like a good combination? #eltchat
worldteacher 12:44 PM RT @ColeenMonroe: @teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Sheer shock is also important. My students freaked out when I brought out K ...
eltknowledge 12:44 PM @ELTExperiences @Shaunwilden I don't think the terms 'lecturer' or 'entertainer' have that much to do with good teaching. #eltchat
Marisa_C 12:44 PM Have you talked about criteria for great lessons? What is it that makes them great? #eltchat
teflerinha 12:44 PM @ColeenMonroe @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin #eltchat Have to know your stds well though.
GemL1 12:44 PM @ELTExperiences sorry thought u were saying this was a problem! agree that it definitely could be!  #eltchat
worldteacher 12:44 PM RT @teflerinha: #eltchat Haven't talked much about topic.related to ss interests or sthg new? > Some of each? Engage + broaden minds!
Shaunwilden 12:44 PM @prese1 @ELTExperiences  I'd add purposefully engaged  #ELTchat
ELTExperiences 12:45 PM Can a good lesson be in the school's interest if sts want to be lectured or entertained rather than all this CLT stuff? #eltchat
ColeenMonroe 12:45 PM @teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin I don't know. I find teachers too willing to shy away from controversy in ELT. #eltchat
eltknowledge 12:45 PM @worldteacher @teflerinha Topics really depend on the students and the teaching context though…#eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:45 PM Hi @Marisa_C :-) Happy New Year ! #eltchat
eltknowledge 12:46 PM @ELTExperiences I think even 'lecturing' can be done in an entertaining and useful way. So no babies out with the bathwater. #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:46 PM RT @eltknowledge: @ELTExperiences @Shaunwilden I don't think the terms 'lecturer' or 'entertainer' have that much to do with good teachi ...
teflerinha 12:46 PM @worldteacher > Agree #eltchat I find that personality quizzes or pop psych often go down well- most people like talking about themselves.
Shaunwilden 12:46 PM @Marisa_C A little bit, they needed to be collaborative, the chance for learning, perhaps be skills based... #ELTchat
Marisa_C 12:47 PM This spells success for me Sequence
teflerinha 12:47 PM @eltknowledge @worldteacher > Agree-but as a rule wld something familiar or sthg completely new be your choice for knockout lesson? #eltchat
prese1 12:48 PM RT @Marisa_C: This spells success for me Sequence
Shaunwilden 12:48 PM @TPMcDonald85 @worldteacher ...on lessons I presume  #ELTchat
kevchanwow 12:48 PM @teflerinha if Ss know goals of lesson (i.e. measure own progress), revisiting old topics can be great, if they do/can see change #eltchat
TPMcDonald85 12:48 PM @Shaunwilden @worldteacher We should always listen to our Ss opinion #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 12:48 PM RT @Marisa_C: This spells success for me Sequence
Shaunwilden 12:48 PM Ok getting to the final 10mins so if you have faves to share now is the time  #ELTchat
eltknowledge 12:48 PM @ColeenMonroe @teflerinha @michaelegriffin Love controversy! As long as it's mediated fairly and in a balanced way. #eltchat
teflerinha 12:49 PM @eltknowledge @ColeenMonroe @michaelegriffin #eltchat Can work brilliantly, but still think need to b careful & ready to deal with fallout
BobK99 12:49 PM RT @worldteacher: Hi @Marisa_C Happy New Year! #eltchat >Same here - belatedly (away from desk) :)
Marisa_C 12:49 PM @thornburyscott had a great post on Flow which makes a lot of sense for great lessons #ELtchat
worldteacher 12:50 PM RT @Marisa_C: @thornburyscott had a great post on Flow which makes a lot of sense for great lessons #ELtchat >Thanks - will look for it l8r.
teflerinha 12:50 PM @Marisa_C @thornburyscott > Yes! I mentioned flow a couple of times, think it's key #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:50 PM RT @Marisa_C: This spells success for me Sequence
worldteacher 12:50 PM @teflerinha Depends how much of a risk I feel like taking on the day!! :-) #eltchat
ColeenMonroe 12:51 PM @teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Also I teach elementary/middle school. Many are too hesitant when it comes to issues. #eltchat
Marisa_C 12:51 PM For me, the most successful lessons I have seen or designed always had a powerful context/story and great memorability #ELTchat
prese1 12:51 PM @teflerinha @Marisa_C @thornburyscott is there a link? #eltchat
ColeenMonroe 12:51 PM @teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin I've broached everything from abortion to swearing to rape in class, & no prob. #eltchat
ColeenMonroe 12:52 PM @eltknowledge @teflerinha @michaelegriffin I'm devil's advocate. I hope that my students have no idea what I actually believe. #Eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:52 PM RT @ColeenMonroe: @teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Also I teach elementary/middle school. Many are too hesitant when it comes  ...
prese1 12:52 PM @ColeenMonroe @teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin what country are you teaching in?  #eltchat
jenjdobson 12:52 PM #eltchat @Marisa_C a great summary :)
prese1 12:53 PM @SimonGreenall Thanx #eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:53 PM @SimonGreenall Thanks Simon see you soon :-)  #ELTchat
eltknowledge 12:53 PM @teflerinha @ColeenMonroe I think if the teacher dn't act like the authority of these topics but just a listenin ear,it could work. #eltchat
yitzha_sarwono 12:53 PM RT @Marisa_C: For me, the most successful lessons I have seen or designed always had a powerful context/story and great memorability #EL ...
TPMcDonald85 12:53 PM @Shaunwilden grammar lessons are my favourites! If I'm prepared then I'll feel confident and I know I'll have a good lesson #ELTchat
ELTExperiences 12:53 PM RT @teflerinha: @prese1 @Marisa_C @thornburyscott Look on SCott's A-Z blog under F for Flow. #eltchat
SimonGreenall 12:53 PM @prese1 #eltchat Hi everyone, happy new year. Heres the link to scott's piece on Flow. http://t.co/ghawwTCb
ELTExperiences 12:53 PM Actually my favourite lesson was with a coursebook. Flowed really well and learners were engaged. #eltchat
teflerinha 12:53 PM @prese1 @Marisa_C @thornburyscott Look on SCott's A-Z blog under F for Flow. #eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:54 PM @ELTExperiences Is that a confession from a confirmed dogmatist #nevermissachancetowind'emup  #ELTchat
prese1 12:54 PM @teflerinha @ELTExperiences @Marisa_C @thornburyscott I feel so thick...Scott, of course...lol  #eltchat
ELTExperiences 12:54 PM @teflerinha it was quite a surprise being a tad into #dogme. :-) #eltchat
worldteacher 12:54 PM RT @Marisa_C: Language attaches itself to stories or gripping topics - here are some I have been collecting http://t.co/SqX591bs #ELTchat
teflerinha 12:54 PM @ELTExperiences What do you mean 'actually ;)  #coursebookwriter #eltchat
BobK99 12:54 PM @Marisa_C  #ELTchat My paralleism antennae twitched at your SUCCESS acrostic - till I realized 'fun' was a noun too!
Marisa_C 12:54 PM Language attaches itself to stories or gripping topics - here are some I have been collecting http://t.co/SqX591bs #ELTchat
Marisa_C 12:55 PM RT @SimonGreenall: @prese1 #eltchat Hi everyone, happy new year. Heres the link to scott's piece on Flow. http://t.co/O4pa8iIi thx!!!
ELTExperiences 12:55 PM @Shaunwilden there's always a place for coursebooks :-) #eltchat
teflerinha 12:55 PM @ELTExperiences #eltchat Don't think there's any reason why a CB lesson can't flow - they are generally designed to do just that
SimonGreenall 12:55 PM RT @ELTExperiences: @teflerinha it was quite a surprise being a tad into #dogme. :-) #eltchat > Makes me v happy :)
eltknowledge 12:55 PM @ColeenMonroe @teflerinha I even teach the adverbial'Just2play Devil's Advocate' early on.So they know wht I'm doin. #eltchat
susita001 12:56 PM Calling for papers at http://t.co/ojXUY1Oe. Anyone interested? #esl,
teflerinha 12:56 PM @ELTExperiences #eltchat They need adapting to particular gps, but so do all materials/favourite lessons
TPMcDonald85 12:56 PM Thanks #ELTchat been a good one!
ColeenMonroe 12:56 PM @teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Actually, yes. If that were the case, they deserve an adult who listens and cares. #eltchat
SimonGreenall 12:56 PM RT @ELTExperiences: @Shaunwilden there's always a place for coursebooks :-) #eltchat Yay!
teflerinha 12:56 PM RT @SimonGreenall: RT @ELTExperiences: @teflerinha it was quite a surprise being a tad into #dogme. :-) #eltchat > Makes me v happy :)
worldteacher 12:57 PM @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Would love to do the summary for the 1st #eltchat of 2013 if nobody else has taken it!
ShellTerrell 12:57 PM International Certification Programs in Asia & Latin America – Study TESOL Abroad http://t.co/CdFCozAB #esl #eltchat
ColeenMonroe 12:57 PM @teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Sugarcoating things contributes to stigma, and esp. here in Korea. #eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:57 PM As we get towards the end anyone want to write the summary?  #ELTchat
chiasuan 12:57 PM @teflerinha @ELTExperiences Just coz they r of the same topic dn't mean the coursebk flows well.Flow is oiled by teachers. Or luck. #eltchat
prese1 12:57 PM @Marisa_C @teflerinha @SimonGreenall @Lonnie30j31  Thanx :) #eltchat
ELTExperiences 12:57 PM @SimonGreenall: RT ELTExperiences: @Shaunwilden there's always a place for coursebooks :-) #eltchat Yay! Usually not in my class though.
Marisa_C 12:57 PM @BobK99 te he he yes - was part of a workshop for Ts - we all had to create our own accrostic of successful lessons  #ELTchat
larisa_dubova 12:57 PM RT @Marisa_C: Language attaches itself to stories or gripping topics - here are some I have been collecting http://t.co/SqX591bs #ELTchat
ColeenMonroe 12:58 PM @eltknowledge @teflerinha Hard to do in Korea, where they want an Authority. I constantly emphasize that no correct answers exist. #eltchat
Shaunwilden 12:58 PM @worldteacher @Marisa_C  Thanks Andrea  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 12:58 PM RT @worldteacher: @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Would love to do the summary for the 1st #eltchat of 2013 if nobody else has taken it! > Yay!!
BobK99 12:58 PM RT @TPMcDonald85: Thanks #ELTchat been a good one! > Same here - musk fly (tse-tse rat?) :)
teflerinha 12:59 PM @kevchanwow @chiasuan @eltexperiences #eltchat That would be a controversial class...
ColeenMonroe 12:59 PM @teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Obviously not in the middle of class. I make myself available by email and office hours. #eltchat
kevchanwow 12:59 PM @chiasuan @teflerinha @eltexperiences think its the ELT Flow Gods. Recall having to bite off chicken's head to get their attention #eltchat
prese1 12:59 PM Thanx for the chat and have a great week #eltchat
hoprea 12:59 PM I guess I'll have to read the summary, then!! Looking forward to it! It seems to have been quite a good one! #ELTChat
teflerinha 12:59 PM @chiasuan @ELTExperiences #eltchat Agree that teachers provide oil, but a well written piece of material or a badly written one makes a diff
worldteacher 12:59 PM @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C You're welcome - will get to it at the weekend. #eltchat
eltknowledge 1:00 PM @teflerinha Oh absolutely! Badly written material can make me lose the will to live…! #eltchat
ColeenMonroe 1:00 PM @teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin I make sure to emphasize that they can talk to me privately if they feel compelled. #eltchat
AlexandraKouk 1:00 PM RT @Marisa_C: Language attaches itself to stories or gripping topics - here are some I have been collecting http://t.co/SqX591bs #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 1:00 PM The 21GMT  is How are you going to grow as a teacher this year? - wont be joining you as have a conference to set up  #eltchat
ELTExperiences 1:00 PM @teflerinha @chiasuan  I'd say the teacher would need to adapt to the classroom/learners to assist with a good lesson and flow. #eltchat
Marisa_C 1:01 PM @SimonGreenall happy new year Simon thx for joining  #ELTchat
Marisa_C 1:01 PM RT @eltknowledge: @teflerinha Oh absolutely! Badly written material can make me lose the will to live…! #eltchat > :-)
SimonGreenall 1:01 PM #ELTchat bye everyone. Thanks for the session.
ELTExperiences 1:02 PM Is anyone doing the #eltchat summary? I'd be happy to write up a summary. :-)
michaelegriffin 1:02 PM Thanks for ELTchat. Lots to think about.  #ELtchat
yitzha_sarwono 1:03 PM RT @Shaunwilden: The 21GMT  is How are you going to grow as a teacher this year? - wont be joining you as have a conference to set up  # ...
AlexandraKouk 1:03 PM RT @Marisa_C: RT @hoprea: RT @Shaunwilden: The 21GMT  is How are you going to grow as a teacher this year? #ELTChat > hoe u can join  ...
ColeenMonroe 1:03 PM @teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Again, I disagree. I'm not trying to be pastoral. I did the same when I taught in Chile. #eltchat
eltknowledge 1:03 PM Thanks for the #eltchat ! Great to be back! Had lots of fun as always!
kevchanwow 1:03 PM That was an #eltchat of the very first order. Much obliged. Happy new year to all.
Marisa_C 1:03 PM RT @hoprea: RT @Shaunwilden: The 21GMT  is How are you going to grow as a teacher this year? #ELTChat > hoe u can join Henrick
AlexandraKouk 1:03 PM Great #ELTchat, the first for 2013! Thank u all!
Marisa_C 1:03 PM @ELTExperiences yes but thanks - will take a raincheck :-)  #eltchat
hoprea 1:03 PM RT @Shaunwilden: The 21GMT  is How are you going to grow as a teacher this year? #ELTChat
jenjdobson 1:05 PM #eltchat thanks all. Great first time eltchat for me.
GemL1 1:05 PM thanks for a great 1st 2013 #eltchat, look 4ward to many more, c u all soon.

 

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