username |
time |
status |
Shaunwilden |
12:00 PM |
The 12GMT #eltchat is What makes a lesson great? Fave lessons-The ones we do over & over again and always work. |
BobK99 |
12:00 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Everyone ready for the first #eltchat of the year? > Yup, rarin' to go :) |
teflerinha |
12:00 PM |
#eltchat I find fav lessons like jokes..I can never remember more than a vague impression and have to reinvent the wheel..should keep a note |
Shaunwilden |
12:01 PM |
RT @PaulIhcordoba: #eltchat any lesson when students have that look that says 'I got it and can use it'! Usually comes with a smile. |
Shaunwilden |
12:01 PM |
Right fave lessons then, what's good about 'em #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:02 PM |
RT @teflerinha: #eltchat I find fav lessons like jokes..I can never remember more than a vague impression and have to reinvent the wheel ... |
worldteacher |
12:02 PM |
@Shaunwilden My best lessons are engaging and usually involve all four skills. #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:02 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: The 12GMT #eltchat is What makes a lesson great? Fave lessons-The ones we do over & over again and always work. Why ... |
teflerinha |
12:02 PM |
#eltchat For me, it something which flows effortlessly, completely engaging stds and leading to satisfying outcome (easier said than done!) |
eltknowledge |
12:03 PM |
RT @BrunoELT: “@Shaunwilden: The 12GMT #eltchat is What makes a lesson great? Fave lessons-The ones we do over & over again & always work.” |
Shaunwilden |
12:03 PM |
@teflerinha Are they the ones you have planned meticulously? #eltchat |
GemL1 |
12:03 PM |
@Shaunwilden one's which teach Ss more than just eng skills r normally successful #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:03 PM |
@worldteacher @Shaunwilden > Agree integrated skills lessons seem to contribute to sense of effortless progression #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:04 PM |
Well, my favorite lesson to teach sometimes is so different than my student's .#eltchat |
TPMcDonald85 |
12:04 PM |
#eltchat My favourite lessons are the ones which were well planned, engaging, energetic and fun. |
AlexandraKouk |
12:04 PM |
@Shaunwilden not necessarily - sometimes it just happens! #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:04 PM |
@Shaunwilden @teflerinha My favourite lessons don't require much planning - I've used them so often! #eltchat |
eltknowledge |
12:04 PM |
Hi everyone! Happy New Year! My fav lessons are usually interesting tasks that bring out lots of language from the sts. #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:04 PM |
@Shaunwilden Think there are well planned ones that work again and again, but also spontaneous ones that are more about chemistry #eltchat |
prese1 |
12:04 PM |
#eltchat sometimes the ones you spend less time planning are the ones that work best |
eltknowledge |
12:05 PM |
RT @yitzha_sarwono: Well, my favorite lesson to teach sometimes is so different than my student's .#eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:05 PM |
@worldteacher @Shaunwilden But you probably spent time planning originally? #eltchat |
GemL1 |
12:05 PM |
@Shaunwilden oops ones not one's! #eltchat |
kevchanwow |
12:05 PM |
I'm spending the next 55 minutes in #eltchat hope to see you there |
eltknowledge |
12:05 PM |
But I think we all realise very quickly that a lesson that works well with 1 group could fall flat on its face with another! #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:05 PM |
@yitzha_sarwono Yes, that's true..did you see @hughdellar 's latest post on that? #eltchat |
AlexandraKouk |
12:05 PM |
RT @yitzha_sarwono: Well, my favorite lesson to teach sometimes is so different than my student's .#eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:05 PM |
RT @worldteacher: @Shaunwilden My best lessons are engaging and usually involve all four skills. #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:06 PM |
@teflerinha @Shaunwilden Of course!! :-) #eltchat |
miss_Trika |
12:06 PM |
@BrunoELT could not join today's #eltchat :( Have a great sharing time all! |
BobK99 |
12:06 PM |
MT @teflerinha: #eltchat ...leading to satisfying outcome (easier said than done!) > This is the key: 'Fave lessons' too easy w/o gd o/cm. |
GemL1 |
12:06 PM |
@BrunoELT agree collaboration lessons r alwasy good as well as project work. #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:06 PM |
RT @eltknowledge: I think we all realisethat a lesson that works well with 1 group could fall flat with another! #eltchat >Absolutely!! |
teflerinha |
12:06 PM |
RT @BrunoELT: #eltchat My fave lesson are those in which sts collaborate and learn from each other with some help from me. > agreed |
eltknowledge |
12:07 PM |
There is 1 task I used to use: It was called 'How to murder your teacher'. Sts hotseat the teacher then plan the perfect murder. #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:07 PM |
@BobK99 #eltchat Yes, I agree. It's important there is a sense of having really learnt something useful or developed in some way. |
worldteacher |
12:07 PM |
RT @BrunoELT: #eltchat My fave lesson are those in which sts collaborate and learn from each other with some help from me. >Agreed! |
Shaunwilden |
12:07 PM |
@worldteacher @eltknowledge Yes I agree,which is why I am not a fan of the staffroom 'this a g8 lesson try it' comments #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:08 PM |
As I'm teaching Kindergarten, I love teaching about Phonics, blends and cluster but my students fave is early grammar #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:08 PM |
@eltknowledge I guess as you're still here, they've never managed to carry it off :-) #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:09 PM |
@BrunoELT @yitzha_sarwono @hughdellar http://t.co/iPl52DWQ Talks about lessons you love, but that don't teach much of use. #eltchat |
GemL1 |
12:09 PM |
@yitzha_sarwono really wow you have keen students! my students fave is any kind of game! #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:09 PM |
@eltknowledge On the same theme 1 of my faves is a news story - Teacher Disappears, Students Suspected - is there a theme here? :-) #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:09 PM |
@eltknowledge #eltchat LOL I can see that working very well with certain classes..teenage boys? |
prese1 |
12:10 PM |
@teflerinha Thanx Rachael #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:10 PM |
@teflerinha @hughdellar No I haven't, but will check it out then. Thanks #eltchat |
eltknowledge |
12:10 PM |
@Shaunwilden Absolutely! The best advice 2 teachrs who r stuck w a difficult class is 2find out abt sts rather thn suggest lessons. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:10 PM |
RT @teflerinha: @BrunoELT @yitzha_sarwono @hughdellar http://t.co/iPl52DWQ Talks about lessons you love, but that don't teach much of us ... |
eltknowledge |
12:11 PM |
@GemL1 @yitzha_sarwono I have students who love games too…any kind of competitive element and they are stoked! #eltchat |
prese1 |
12:11 PM |
@eltknowledge agree! #eltchat |
kevchanwow |
12:11 PM |
Lessons that take advantage of Ss dynamics work well. "Used to..." With mixed age groups goes down well in Japan. #eltchat |
eltknowledge |
12:11 PM |
@Shaunwilden I guess the 'How to murder your teacher' task gave sts cathartic release for the hate they feel twds me! hahaha… #eltchat |
jo_cummins |
12:12 PM |
#eltchat I think my faves are all lessons that are coherent, stand alone and the sts come out feeling they have learnt something 'concrete'. |
Shaunwilden |
12:12 PM |
So the initial tweets suggest a common thing is sts collaboration #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:12 PM |
@GemL1 Well, that's because I would bring toys and pictures and we'll have simple drama just to explain about it #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:12 PM |
#eltchat I find std generated materials can help engage stds. Used to have gr8 lesson which involved drawing a house & roleplay #forgottenit |
worldteacher |
12:12 PM |
@BrunoELT @Shaunwilden @eltknowledge Me, too - I like to take ideas from colleagues & tailor for my sts - all abt knowing your sts. #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:13 PM |
@worldteacher Ooh, think I remember sthg similar to that- parts of the body with YLs? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:13 PM |
@teflerinha Ooo teasing use with an idea then tell us you've #forgottenit! #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:13 PM |
@teflerinha Sounds silmilar to a 'create an alien' activity which I've used to great effect! #eltchat |
GemL1 |
12:13 PM |
@yitzha_sarwono ok sounds like fun then! I've started using more drama recently and happy with the results #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:13 PM |
RT @jo_cummins: #eltchat I think my faves are all lessons that are coherent, stand alone and the sts come out feeling they have learnt s ... |
worldteacher |
12:14 PM |
@teflerinha Yes - used it with adults, too here in Vietnam - they loved it!! #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:14 PM |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat Wish I could remember. Gr8 standby lesson (which is often when reusable lessons get trotted out..4 better or worse |
chiasuan |
12:14 PM |
@teflerinha I did the 'describe ur house & ur partner draws it' info gap& turns out my Saudi st had a huge fountain in his hallway! #eltchat |
kevchanwow |
12:14 PM |
Gonna play devils advocate, but maybe it's not the lesson, but the difficulty. Just difficult enough=engaging. No games needed #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:14 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: So the initial tweets suggest a common thing is sts collaboration #eltchat > Yes - dare I mention TBL at this point? |
prese1 |
12:15 PM |
@jenjdobson agree! #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:15 PM |
@chiasuan That's nice- like it when something surprises you. Like Polish ss whose wardrobes were always in the living room..#eltchat |
jenjdobson |
12:15 PM |
#eltchat hi all :) new here. I think I have more fav bits of lessons than whole lessons, because of natural changes that evolve. |
Shaunwilden |
12:15 PM |
@kevchanwow I agree with you, I think games often focus on the fun rather than the actual language outcomes #eltchat |
eltknowledge |
12:15 PM |
@BrunoELT @worldteacher @Shaunwilden Urgh…I hate it when people say that! I admit there r difficult grps. But no impossible ones. #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:16 PM |
RT @chiasuan: @teflerinha I did the 'describe ur house & ur partner draws it' info gap& turns out my Saudi st had a huge fountai ... |
eltknowledge |
12:16 PM |
@GemL1 @kevchanwow A task with the right level of difficulty does not mean its engaging or personalised tho… #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:16 PM |
@Shaunwilden @kevchanwow > Also agree. I like a strong topic, several skills and language input with a satisfying outcome. #eltchat |
michaelegriffin |
12:16 PM |
MT @Shaunwilden I am not a fan of the staffroom 'this a gr8 lesson try it' comments #eltchat > I am right with you on that one. |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:16 PM |
@GemL1 exactly, it is easier for them to understand the use of V1-V2 when we have simple drama to explain it #eltchat |
GemL1 |
12:16 PM |
@kevchanwow but the material/activity needs to be engaging as well as the right level #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:16 PM |
@jenjdobson Welcome :-) You make a valid point is any lesson ever the same? #eltchat |
kevchanwow |
12:17 PM |
Funny, but it's much easier to identify what makes a terrible lesson than a good one. #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:17 PM |
@jenjdobson Yes, very good point> this happens to me partly because can't remember lessons (!) but also like unpicking and remaking #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:17 PM |
@teflerinha @chiasuan And then after hours to correct it to cupboard, you realize it is actually a wardrobe ;-) #eltchat |
jo_cummins |
12:18 PM |
#eltchat I suppose a great lesson is a combination of material/students/teacher/planets aligning... |
teflerinha |
12:18 PM |
@Shaunwilden @chiasuan #eltchat Yes, precisely. Keeps us on our toes... |
Shaunwilden |
12:18 PM |
@kevchanwow Really? #eltchat |
prese1 |
12:19 PM |
@worldteacher @teflerinha or "has the lesson ended?" #eltchat |
eltknowledge |
12:19 PM |
@jo_cummins Oh, planets aligning is a very important one. Do not underestimate it! #eltchat |
michaelegriffin |
12:19 PM |
Is student learning a factor? @kevchanwow #ELTchat |
kevchanwow |
12:19 PM |
If a task (like summarizing paragraph) isnt broken into digestible steps, it's gonna fail. But properly sequenced lessons also fail #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:19 PM |
RT @worldteacher: For me, I know it's a good lesson when students forget to remind me that it's break time!! #eltchat |
michaelegriffin |
12:19 PM |
RT @kevchanwow: Funny, but it's much easier to identify what makes a terrible lesson than a good one. #eltchat |
eltknowledge |
12:19 PM |
@Shaunwilden @teflerinha Haha! I didn't knw tht! Well,my other sts did feel inferior when they realisd how big this st's house was. #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:19 PM |
For me, I know it's a good lesson when students forget to remind me that it's break time!! #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:20 PM |
@michaelegriffin @kevchanwow #eltchat Not necessarily students learning bcos we can't control that, but being engaged & potential 4 learning |
eltknowledge |
12:20 PM |
@michaelegriffin @kevchanwow That's a really good pt, Michael. Fav/Good lessons aren't just be abt enjoyment, but also learning. #eltchat |
GemL1 |
12:20 PM |
@worldteacher For me, I know it's a good lesson when Ss forget to remind me that it's break time -agree or don't notice the bell! #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:20 PM |
@eltknowledge @Shaunwilden #eltchat Unfortunate, but a necess risk if personalising, I think. Though I don't do this activity with refugees |
lingnet |
12:21 PM |
RT @TheConsultantsE: 12 Free Online Quiz Makers to Create Online Quizzes http://t.co/MNDa8CCp via @baibbb @mike08 #edtech #elearning #e ... |
LizziePinard |
12:21 PM |
#eltchat hi all sorry am late lost track of time…! happy new year to all of you! |
teflerinha |
12:21 PM |
@kevchanwow #eltchat Think sequencing is really important (but, as u say, not a guarantee of a great lesson) |
worldteacher |
12:21 PM |
@SueAnnan HNY Sue! #eltchat |
eltknowledge |
12:21 PM |
@BrunoELT @worldteacher What's also great is if I myself say 'It's over already?' and don't feel the time passing! ; ) #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:21 PM |
RT @BrunoELT: same happens to me: a great class is when class is over and they say "Already? I didn't notice time passing by!" #eltchat Yes! |
SueAnnan |
12:21 PM |
Hello and Happy New Year. I'm late but glad to join in #ELTchat |
LizziePinard |
12:22 PM |
@worldteacher thank you Andrea! #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:22 PM |
My ss fave lesson involves show & tell,something pink & a lot of laugh around the explanation from a goofy(but prepared to do so)me #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:22 PM |
@SueAnnan Hi Sue ELTchat |
worldteacher |
12:22 PM |
@LizziePinard Happy New Year, Lizzie! #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:22 PM |
Ohh #eltchat is now on. Glad to join. What are we talking about? |
kevchanwow |
12:22 PM |
@eltknowledge @geml1 but a task pitched at the right level, just by the sense of challenge and chance of success generates interest #eltchat |
GemL1 |
12:22 PM |
RT @teflerinha: #eltchat Not necessarily students learning bcos we can't control that, but being engaged & potential 4 learning - agree |
LizziePinard |
12:22 PM |
RT @teflerinha: @michaelegriffin @kevchanwow #eltchat Not necessarily students learning bcos we can't control that, but being engaged &a ... |
TPMcDonald85 |
12:22 PM |
@Shaunwilden @kevchanwow I think Ss always need some sort of activity, especially if class is after a long day of work. #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:23 PM |
RT @eltknowledge: @michaelegriffin @kevchanwow That's a really good pt, Michael. Fav/Good lessons aren't just be abt enjoyment, but also ... |
SueAnnan |
12:23 PM |
My favourite lesson is one where the students are engaged and doing most of the work:-) #ELTchat |
teflerinha |
12:23 PM |
@kevchanwow @eltknowledge @geml1 > definitely an important factor- which is why we have to be careful with #1sizefitsall lessons #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:23 PM |
@ELTExperiences What makes a good lesson? #eltchat |
eltknowledge |
12:24 PM |
@teflerinha @kevchanwow @eltknowledge @geml1 Yeah! At IH, we called the '1-size-fits-all' lesson the 'boil-in-the-bag-lesson'! #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:24 PM |
RT @jo_cummins: @eltknowledge @BrunoELT @worldteacher or you say class is over and there is a groan! #eltchat >Even better!! |
michaelegriffin |
12:24 PM |
#ELTchat (re: student learning) RT @ColeenMonroe Really? I'm sorry, but I thought that was a teacher's job in every lesson. |
jo_cummins |
12:24 PM |
@eltknowledge @BrunoELT @worldteacher or you say class is over and there is a groan! #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
12:24 PM |
@Shaunwilden Hi Shaun #ELTchat |
GemL1 |
12:24 PM |
@kevchanwow @eltknowledge i think other factors play a big role too - type of task, topic etc #eltchat |
prese1 |
12:24 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: My favourite lesson is one where the students are engaged and doing most of the work:-) #ELTchat |
kevchanwow |
12:25 PM |
I think a great lesson has room for us as teachers to really learn and stretch as well. #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:25 PM |
@ColeenMonroe @michaelegriffin @kevchanwow It's a teacher's job to provide gr8 conditions for learning...not to make them learn #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
12:25 PM |
I'm not sure I have a lesson which doesn't change, according to the class makeup #ELTchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:25 PM |
Just joining #eltchat now. What is a stereotypical good lesson? Sorry for joining late. Happy new year all. |
teflerinha |
12:26 PM |
@kevchanwow > Yes, I agree. Think a gr8 lesson fully involves everyone in the room in learning, including us #eltchat |
LizziePinard |
12:26 PM |
@BrunoELT #eltchat thank you Bruno! it's good to be here! :) |
eltknowledge |
12:26 PM |
@ELTExperiences Hi Martin! Happy New Year! #eltchat |
kevchanwow |
12:26 PM |
When I think of the lessons I like to run year after year, they are the ones that allow the students to surprise me. #eltchat |
michaelegriffin |
12:26 PM |
@ColeenMonroe @kevchanwow I was suggesting that this *should be the measuring stick.Not sure it happens in every lesson though,TBH. #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
12:26 PM |
RT @BrunoELT: Adaptability is a key issue for a successful lesson. What do you say? #eltchat I agree |
chiasuan |
12:26 PM |
@michaelegriffin @ColeenMonroe Sure,but st learning is so multifaceted& complex. Sometimes opportunities2just talk can b learning2. #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:26 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: My favourite lesson is one where the students are engaged and doing most of the work:-) #ELTchat |
worldteacher |
12:27 PM |
@SueAnnan @BrunoELT Do you mean the lesson should be adaptable 4 diff groups or that u should be able to adapt the lesson as u go? #eltchat |
jo_cummins |
12:27 PM |
RT@teflerinha It's a teacher's job to provide gr8 conditions for learning...not to make them learn #eltchat < Agreed! |
LizziePinard |
12:27 PM |
RT @kevchanwow: When I think of the lessons I like to run year after year, they are the ones that allow the students to surprise me. #el ... |
kevchanwow |
12:27 PM |
RT @eltknowledge: @teflerinha @kevchanwow @eltknowledge @geml1 Yeah! At IH, we called the '1-size-fits-all' lesson the 'boil-in-the-bag- ... |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:27 PM |
@kevchanwow That's a very awesome thought! Couldn't agree more #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:27 PM |
RT @kevchanwow: When I think of the lessons I like to run year after year, they are the ones that allow the students to surprise me. #el ... |
teflerinha |
12:28 PM |
@chiasuan @michaelegriffin @ColeenMonroe @kevchanwow > Absolutely- and making sure soil is well tilled and watered! #eltchat |
GemL1 |
12:28 PM |
@kevchanwow you put that so nicely! agree re students surprise you. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:28 PM |
Sorry had to go off for a few mins back now #ELTchat |
worldteacher |
12:28 PM |
@kevchanwow Can you give us an example? #eltchat |
chiasuan |
12:28 PM |
@michaelegriffin @ColeenMonroe @kevchanwow Yes,But hard2measure st learnin. Smetimes plantin seeds 4later 'realisatn' is learning2. #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:28 PM |
#eltchat I think sequencing and integrating skills is imp because this contributes to effortless flow which helps ss to be fully engaged |
teflerinha |
12:29 PM |
@padgets #eltchat Agree that right level of challenge is important for engagement. |
prese1 |
12:29 PM |
@worldteacher @SueAnnan @BrunoELT both...we also need to think on our feet and improvise if something goes wrong #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:29 PM |
@padgets What's PBL? #ELTchat |
padgets |
12:29 PM |
#eltchat good morning! Lurking today and just wanted to say my kids love lessons where PBL and gaming are involved...they love the challenge |
Shaunwilden |
12:29 PM |
RT @jo_cummins: RT@teflerinha It's a teacher's job to provide gr8 conditions for learning...not to make them learn #eltchat < Agreed! |
worldteacher |
12:29 PM |
RT @teflerinha: @kevchanwow > Yes, I agree. Think a gr8 lesson fully involves everyone in the room in learning, including us #eltchat >Yes!! |
LizziePinard |
12:30 PM |
RT @chiasuan: @michaelegriffin @ColeenMonroe @kevchanwow Yes,But hard2measure st learnin. Smetimes plantin seeds 4later 'realisatn' is l ... |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:30 PM |
@TPMcDonald85 Thanks. I'd try so hard to make the hard part bearable by making the explanation as easy as it can be for my 5yrs old #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:30 PM |
@prese1 @worldteacher @SueAnnan @BrunoELT > Agree, important, as said many times, to teach class not lesson. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:31 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: I am wondering if we are talking more about the causes of or requirements for good/fav lessons or the results of th ... |
michaelegriffin |
12:31 PM |
I am wondering if we are talking more about the causes of or requirements for good/fav lessons or the results of them. Or both? #ELTchat |
teflerinha |
12:31 PM |
@ColeenMonroe @michaelegriffin #eltchat U have to teach them how to learn, but think learning doesn't happen in linear predictable ways |
worldteacher |
12:31 PM |
RT @MikeInVietnam:haha this happened to me just today! As I said it was time to end, 1 student put his head in hands & said, "NOO!" #eltchat |
LizziePinard |
12:31 PM |
RT @teflerinha: @prese1 @worldteacher @SueAnnan @BrunoELT > Agree, important, as said many times, to teach class not lesson. #eltchat |
vickyloras |
12:31 PM |
RT @kevchanwow: When I think of the lessons I like to run year after year, they are the ones that allow the students to surprise me. #el ... |
LauraGilchrist4 |
12:32 PM |
RT @kevchanwow: When I think of the lessons I like to run year after year, they are the ones that allow the students to surprise me. #el ... |
Shaunwilden |
12:32 PM |
@padgets Thanks #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:32 PM |
@michaelegriffin Doesnt one lead to another? #ELTchat |
padgets |
12:32 PM |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat problem or project based learning ‚ò∫ |
worldteacher |
12:32 PM |
RT @prese1: @worldteacher @SueAnnan @BrunoELT both...we also need to think on our feet and improvise if something goes wrong #eltchat >Agree |
SueAnnan |
12:32 PM |
@worldteacher @BrunoELT I think both scenarios really #ELTChat |
ELTExperiences |
12:33 PM |
@michaelegriffin good point. Should we consider good lessons based upon teacher or student opinion? #eltchat |
kevchanwow |
12:33 PM |
RT @yitzha_sarwono: @TPMcDonald85 Thanks. I'd try so hard to make the hard part bearable by making the explanation as easy as it can be ... |
Shaunwilden |
12:33 PM |
Are our fave lessons always the same ones as the sts fave lessons? #ELTchat |
SueAnnan |
12:33 PM |
sorry. That was a short visit. Have to go- small emergency at this end :-( #ELTchat see you tonight |
eltknowledge |
12:33 PM |
@teflerinha @ColeenMonroe @michaelegriffin True!When we think of our fav lessns,we dn't often think of the 'Learner Autonomy' ones! #eltchat |
kevchanwow |
12:33 PM |
@worldteacher I like the redesign a house group task. it can be simplified by providing lexis or shifted to different conv. topic #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:34 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Are our fave lessons always the same ones as the sts fave lessons? #ELTchat >In my case, yes! |
TPMcDonald85 |
12:34 PM |
What are our least favourite lessons? #eltchat |
avatarsantenads |
12:34 PM |
RT @TheConsultantsE: 12 Free Online Quiz Makers to Create Online Quizzes http://t.co/MNDa8CCp via @baibbb @mike08 #edtech #elearning #e ... |
prese1 |
12:34 PM |
@Shaunwilden I don't think so #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:34 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: I am wondering if we are talking more about the causes of or requirements for good/fav lessons or the results of th ... |
worldteacher |
12:34 PM |
@kevchanwow Great, thanks! #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:35 PM |
RT @TPMcDonald85: What are our least favourite lessons? #eltchat Is this a separate #eltchat? Suggestion for next week, perhaps? :-) |
teflerinha |
12:35 PM |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat No, because stds (sometimes) just want to have fun. But if both enjoy and are satisfied prob a winner |
Shaunwilden |
12:35 PM |
RT @TPMcDonald85: What are our least favourite lessons? #eltchat |
michaelegriffin |
12:35 PM |
@Shaunwilden I suppose it does.. but I think (for me at least) it is useful to know what end of it I am thinking about. :) #ELTchat |
eltknowledge |
12:35 PM |
One of my favs is getting sts 2 give presentations on topics they've chosen. One student presentatn per lesson. Totally st-centred. #eltchat |
GemL1 |
12:35 PM |
@Shaunwilden I think generally yes, when Ss enjoy a lesson I do too and vice versa. #eltchat |
michaelegriffin |
12:36 PM |
. @ColeenMonroe Sometimes I like 2 plan in terms of Knowledge, Skills, attitude or awareness. Which are different ways of planning #ELTchat |
teflerinha |
12:36 PM |
@eltknowledge #eltchat This can work very well BUT ss need to be taught how to give presentations or can be very dull |
TPMcDonald85 |
12:37 PM |
@worldteacher I think it's imporatnt to reflect on the 'what went wrong' lessons as much as the favourite ones #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:37 PM |
RT @eltknowledge: One of my favs is getting sts 2 give presentations on topics they've chosen. One student presentatn per lesson. Totall ... |
teflerinha |
12:37 PM |
@ColeenMonroe Don't forget the hashtag, Coleen. I agree a bit of confusion can be motivating. #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:37 PM |
Devil's advocate: the best lesson delivered in students opinion could be by a less qualified or professional teacher than ourselves #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:37 PM |
@Shaunwilden mostly not, but then again once my ss like it, I could grow fond of it too,because then the lesson would be fun #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:38 PM |
@TPMcDonald85 Definitely!! I was only saying that it wasn't the topic of tonight's #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:38 PM |
@eltknowledge Me too! Only sometimes I just limit the topics to 4-5 only, otherwise the Q&A session after it would be a bit hard #eltchat |
eltknowledge |
12:38 PM |
@teflerinha I just get sts2pick a topic they want2share w the grp& limit it to 6-8 mins. So it's less presentatn but more sharin. #eltchat |
prese1 |
12:38 PM |
@TPMcDonald85 @worldteacher agree...and how to change it too #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:38 PM |
@ELTExperiences Yes i think it could e.g. I know sts who hate all this communicative stuff and love their teacher just to lecture #ELTchat |
teflerinha |
12:38 PM |
@ColeenMonroe @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Anything which engages and makes ss think is good- but need optimum level of confusion #eltchat |
BobK99 |
12:38 PM |
MT @yitzha_sarwono: @TPMcDonald85... making the explanation as easy as it can be for my 5yrs old #eltchat > And NO easier! :) |
kevchanwow |
12:38 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: . @ColeenMonroe Sometimes I like 2 plan in terms of Knowledge, Skills, attitude or awareness. Which are different w ... |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:39 PM |
RT @TPMcDonald85: @worldteacher I think it's imporatnt to reflect on the 'what went wrong' lessons as much as the favourite ones #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:39 PM |
@ELTExperiences #eltchat Most popular teacher at 1 school was awful, went at snail's pace and talked ALL the time- but some stds adored him |
GemL1 |
12:39 PM |
@ELTExperiences does less qualified or professional always = worse teacher? i#eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:40 PM |
@worldteacher @TPMcDonald85 Though having a least has some bearing on being able to teach a lesson that sts will say is their favei #ELTchat |
ColeenMonroe |
12:40 PM |
@teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin I don't mean linguistic confusion, but moral/societal. How's this? #eltchat http://t.co/KJI5tYH3 |
AlexandraKouk |
12:40 PM |
So, being creative and having fun while problem solving sounds like a good combination? #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:40 PM |
@GemL1 I never said a worse teacher. #eltchat |
eltknowledge |
12:40 PM |
@teflerinha @ColeenMonroe @michaelegriffin @yitzha_sarwono Topics like my fav band,my hobby,my pet hate make for great presentatns. #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:41 PM |
@teflerinha @ELTExperiences Wow! I used to have that experience,til I realize I've learnt nothing but her favorite things only :-) #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:41 PM |
@ColeenMonroe @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Looks like a very engaging lesson. Agree, good to give sthg for stds to chew on #eltchat |
prese1 |
12:41 PM |
@ELTExperiences most popular teacher wasn't the most qualified...she had great inter personal skills #eltchat |
eltknowledge |
12:41 PM |
@teflerinha @ColeenMonroe @yitzha_sarwono Instead of topics, maybe limit genre of presentation? e.g. Instructional, Persuasive… #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:42 PM |
@ELTExperiences Neither :-) #ELTchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:42 PM |
@Shaunwilden if that's the case then what's the best teacher for a school? Lecturer or entertainer? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:42 PM |
@Marisa_C "Ello #ELTchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:42 PM |
RT @prese1: @ELTExperiences most popular teacher wasn't the most qualified...she had great inter personal skills #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:42 PM |
Hello everyone - very sorry but got stuck in a difficult interview - will try to catch up #ELTchat |
LizziePinard |
12:43 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @worldteacher happy new year and happy times Andrea and everyone!!! #eltchat you too, M! |
Marisa_C |
12:43 PM |
@BrunoELT hello georgas #ELTchat |
prese1 |
12:43 PM |
@ELTExperiences @Shaunwilden I'd say the one that keeps them engaged #eltchat |
eltknowledge |
12:43 PM |
@ColeenMonroe @teflerinha @michaelegriffin Any Koreans in the group? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:43 PM |
@worldteacher happy new year and happy times Andrea and everyone!!! #eltchat |
eltknowledge |
12:43 PM |
@GemL1 @ELTExperiences Similarly, very qualified does not = good teacher… #eltchat |
ColeenMonroe |
12:43 PM |
@teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Sheer shock is also important. My students freaked out when I brought out Kim Jong-un. #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:43 PM |
#eltchat Haven't talked much about topic...related to ss interests or sthg completely new? |
LizziePinard |
12:43 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @ELTExperiences Neither :-) #ELTchat what i was thinking! |
worldteacher |
12:43 PM |
Hi @Marisa_C Happy New Year! #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:43 PM |
RT @AlexandraKouk: So, being creative and having fun while problem solving sounds like a good combination? #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:44 PM |
RT @ColeenMonroe: @teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Sheer shock is also important. My students freaked out when I brought out K ... |
eltknowledge |
12:44 PM |
@ELTExperiences @Shaunwilden I don't think the terms 'lecturer' or 'entertainer' have that much to do with good teaching. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:44 PM |
Have you talked about criteria for great lessons? What is it that makes them great? #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:44 PM |
@ColeenMonroe @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin #eltchat Have to know your stds well though. |
GemL1 |
12:44 PM |
@ELTExperiences sorry thought u were saying this was a problem! agree that it definitely could be! #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:44 PM |
RT @teflerinha: #eltchat Haven't talked much about topic.related to ss interests or sthg new? > Some of each? Engage + broaden minds! |
Shaunwilden |
12:44 PM |
@prese1 @ELTExperiences I'd add purposefully engaged #ELTchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:45 PM |
Can a good lesson be in the school's interest if sts want to be lectured or entertained rather than all this CLT stuff? #eltchat |
ColeenMonroe |
12:45 PM |
@teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin I don't know. I find teachers too willing to shy away from controversy in ELT. #eltchat |
eltknowledge |
12:45 PM |
@worldteacher @teflerinha Topics really depend on the students and the teaching context though…#eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:45 PM |
Hi @Marisa_C :-) Happy New Year ! #eltchat |
eltknowledge |
12:46 PM |
@ELTExperiences I think even 'lecturing' can be done in an entertaining and useful way. So no babies out with the bathwater. #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:46 PM |
RT @eltknowledge: @ELTExperiences @Shaunwilden I don't think the terms 'lecturer' or 'entertainer' have that much to do with good teachi ... |
teflerinha |
12:46 PM |
@worldteacher > Agree #eltchat I find that personality quizzes or pop psych often go down well- most people like talking about themselves. |
Shaunwilden |
12:46 PM |
@Marisa_C A little bit, they needed to be collaborative, the chance for learning, perhaps be skills based... #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:47 PM |
This spells success for me Sequence |
teflerinha |
12:47 PM |
@eltknowledge @worldteacher > Agree-but as a rule wld something familiar or sthg completely new be your choice for knockout lesson? #eltchat |
prese1 |
12:48 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: This spells success for me Sequence |
Shaunwilden |
12:48 PM |
@TPMcDonald85 @worldteacher ...on lessons I presume #ELTchat |
kevchanwow |
12:48 PM |
@teflerinha if Ss know goals of lesson (i.e. measure own progress), revisiting old topics can be great, if they do/can see change #eltchat |
TPMcDonald85 |
12:48 PM |
@Shaunwilden @worldteacher We should always listen to our Ss opinion #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:48 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: This spells success for me Sequence |
Shaunwilden |
12:48 PM |
Ok getting to the final 10mins so if you have faves to share now is the time #ELTchat |
eltknowledge |
12:48 PM |
@ColeenMonroe @teflerinha @michaelegriffin Love controversy! As long as it's mediated fairly and in a balanced way. #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:49 PM |
@eltknowledge @ColeenMonroe @michaelegriffin #eltchat Can work brilliantly, but still think need to b careful & ready to deal with fallout |
BobK99 |
12:49 PM |
RT @worldteacher: Hi @Marisa_C Happy New Year! #eltchat >Same here - belatedly (away from desk) :) |
Marisa_C |
12:49 PM |
@thornburyscott had a great post on Flow which makes a lot of sense for great lessons #ELtchat |
worldteacher |
12:50 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @thornburyscott had a great post on Flow which makes a lot of sense for great lessons #ELtchat >Thanks - will look for it l8r. |
teflerinha |
12:50 PM |
@Marisa_C @thornburyscott > Yes! I mentioned flow a couple of times, think it's key #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:50 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: This spells success for me Sequence |
worldteacher |
12:50 PM |
@teflerinha Depends how much of a risk I feel like taking on the day!! :-) #eltchat |
ColeenMonroe |
12:51 PM |
@teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Also I teach elementary/middle school. Many are too hesitant when it comes to issues. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:51 PM |
For me, the most successful lessons I have seen or designed always had a powerful context/story and great memorability #ELTchat |
prese1 |
12:51 PM |
@teflerinha @Marisa_C @thornburyscott is there a link? #eltchat |
ColeenMonroe |
12:51 PM |
@teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin I've broached everything from abortion to swearing to rape in class, & no prob. #eltchat |
ColeenMonroe |
12:52 PM |
@eltknowledge @teflerinha @michaelegriffin I'm devil's advocate. I hope that my students have no idea what I actually believe. #Eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:52 PM |
RT @ColeenMonroe: @teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Also I teach elementary/middle school. Many are too hesitant when it comes ... |
prese1 |
12:52 PM |
@ColeenMonroe @teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin what country are you teaching in? #eltchat |
jenjdobson |
12:52 PM |
#eltchat @Marisa_C a great summary :) |
prese1 |
12:53 PM |
@SimonGreenall Thanx #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:53 PM |
@SimonGreenall Thanks Simon see you soon :-) #ELTchat |
eltknowledge |
12:53 PM |
@teflerinha @ColeenMonroe I think if the teacher dn't act like the authority of these topics but just a listenin ear,it could work. #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:53 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: For me, the most successful lessons I have seen or designed always had a powerful context/story and great memorability #EL ... |
TPMcDonald85 |
12:53 PM |
@Shaunwilden grammar lessons are my favourites! If I'm prepared then I'll feel confident and I know I'll have a good lesson #ELTchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:53 PM |
RT @teflerinha: @prese1 @Marisa_C @thornburyscott Look on SCott's A-Z blog under F for Flow. #eltchat |
SimonGreenall |
12:53 PM |
@prese1 #eltchat Hi everyone, happy new year. Heres the link to scott's piece on Flow. http://t.co/ghawwTCb |
ELTExperiences |
12:53 PM |
Actually my favourite lesson was with a coursebook. Flowed really well and learners were engaged. #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:53 PM |
@prese1 @Marisa_C @thornburyscott Look on SCott's A-Z blog under F for Flow. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:54 PM |
@ELTExperiences Is that a confession from a confirmed dogmatist #nevermissachancetowind'emup #ELTchat |
prese1 |
12:54 PM |
@teflerinha @ELTExperiences @Marisa_C @thornburyscott I feel so thick...Scott, of course...lol #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:54 PM |
@teflerinha it was quite a surprise being a tad into #dogme. :-) #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:54 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Language attaches itself to stories or gripping topics - here are some I have been collecting http://t.co/SqX591bs #ELTchat |
teflerinha |
12:54 PM |
@ELTExperiences What do you mean 'actually ;) #coursebookwriter #eltchat |
BobK99 |
12:54 PM |
@Marisa_C #ELTchat My paralleism antennae twitched at your SUCCESS acrostic - till I realized 'fun' was a noun too! |
Marisa_C |
12:54 PM |
Language attaches itself to stories or gripping topics - here are some I have been collecting http://t.co/SqX591bs #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:55 PM |
RT @SimonGreenall: @prese1 #eltchat Hi everyone, happy new year. Heres the link to scott's piece on Flow. http://t.co/O4pa8iIi thx!!! |
ELTExperiences |
12:55 PM |
@Shaunwilden there's always a place for coursebooks :-) #eltchat |
teflerinha |
12:55 PM |
@ELTExperiences #eltchat Don't think there's any reason why a CB lesson can't flow - they are generally designed to do just that |
SimonGreenall |
12:55 PM |
RT @ELTExperiences: @teflerinha it was quite a surprise being a tad into #dogme. :-) #eltchat > Makes me v happy :) |
eltknowledge |
12:55 PM |
@ColeenMonroe @teflerinha I even teach the adverbial'Just2play Devil's Advocate' early on.So they know wht I'm doin. #eltchat |
susita001 |
12:56 PM |
Calling for papers at http://t.co/ojXUY1Oe. Anyone interested? #esl, |
teflerinha |
12:56 PM |
@ELTExperiences #eltchat They need adapting to particular gps, but so do all materials/favourite lessons |
TPMcDonald85 |
12:56 PM |
Thanks #ELTchat been a good one! |
ColeenMonroe |
12:56 PM |
@teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Actually, yes. If that were the case, they deserve an adult who listens and cares. #eltchat |
SimonGreenall |
12:56 PM |
RT @ELTExperiences: @Shaunwilden there's always a place for coursebooks :-) #eltchat Yay! |
teflerinha |
12:56 PM |
RT @SimonGreenall: RT @ELTExperiences: @teflerinha it was quite a surprise being a tad into #dogme. :-) #eltchat > Makes me v happy :) |
worldteacher |
12:57 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Would love to do the summary for the 1st #eltchat of 2013 if nobody else has taken it! |
ShellTerrell |
12:57 PM |
International Certification Programs in Asia & Latin America – Study TESOL Abroad http://t.co/CdFCozAB #esl #eltchat |
ColeenMonroe |
12:57 PM |
@teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Sugarcoating things contributes to stigma, and esp. here in Korea. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:57 PM |
As we get towards the end anyone want to write the summary? #ELTchat |
chiasuan |
12:57 PM |
@teflerinha @ELTExperiences Just coz they r of the same topic dn't mean the coursebk flows well.Flow is oiled by teachers. Or luck. #eltchat |
prese1 |
12:57 PM |
@Marisa_C @teflerinha @SimonGreenall @Lonnie30j31 Thanx :) #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:57 PM |
@SimonGreenall: RT ELTExperiences: @Shaunwilden there's always a place for coursebooks :-) #eltchat Yay! Usually not in my class though. |
Marisa_C |
12:57 PM |
@BobK99 te he he yes - was part of a workshop for Ts - we all had to create our own accrostic of successful lessons #ELTchat |
larisa_dubova |
12:57 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Language attaches itself to stories or gripping topics - here are some I have been collecting http://t.co/SqX591bs #ELTchat |
ColeenMonroe |
12:58 PM |
@eltknowledge @teflerinha Hard to do in Korea, where they want an Authority. I constantly emphasize that no correct answers exist. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:58 PM |
@worldteacher @Marisa_C Thanks Andrea #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:58 PM |
RT @worldteacher: @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Would love to do the summary for the 1st #eltchat of 2013 if nobody else has taken it! > Yay!! |
BobK99 |
12:58 PM |
RT @TPMcDonald85: Thanks #ELTchat been a good one! > Same here - musk fly (tse-tse rat?) :) |
teflerinha |
12:59 PM |
@kevchanwow @chiasuan @eltexperiences #eltchat That would be a controversial class... |
ColeenMonroe |
12:59 PM |
@teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Obviously not in the middle of class. I make myself available by email and office hours. #eltchat |
kevchanwow |
12:59 PM |
@chiasuan @teflerinha @eltexperiences think its the ELT Flow Gods. Recall having to bite off chicken's head to get their attention #eltchat |
prese1 |
12:59 PM |
Thanx for the chat and have a great week #eltchat |
hoprea |
12:59 PM |
I guess I'll have to read the summary, then!! Looking forward to it! It seems to have been quite a good one! #ELTChat |
teflerinha |
12:59 PM |
@chiasuan @ELTExperiences #eltchat Agree that teachers provide oil, but a well written piece of material or a badly written one makes a diff |
worldteacher |
12:59 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C You're welcome - will get to it at the weekend. #eltchat |
eltknowledge |
1:00 PM |
@teflerinha Oh absolutely! Badly written material can make me lose the will to live…! #eltchat |
ColeenMonroe |
1:00 PM |
@teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin I make sure to emphasize that they can talk to me privately if they feel compelled. #eltchat |
AlexandraKouk |
1:00 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Language attaches itself to stories or gripping topics - here are some I have been collecting http://t.co/SqX591bs #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
1:00 PM |
The 21GMT is How are you going to grow as a teacher this year? - wont be joining you as have a conference to set up #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
1:00 PM |
@teflerinha @chiasuan I'd say the teacher would need to adapt to the classroom/learners to assist with a good lesson and flow. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
1:01 PM |
@SimonGreenall happy new year Simon thx for joining #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
1:01 PM |
RT @eltknowledge: @teflerinha Oh absolutely! Badly written material can make me lose the will to live…! #eltchat > :-) |
SimonGreenall |
1:01 PM |
#ELTchat bye everyone. Thanks for the session. |
ELTExperiences |
1:02 PM |
Is anyone doing the #eltchat summary? I'd be happy to write up a summary. :-) |
michaelegriffin |
1:02 PM |
Thanks for ELTchat. Lots to think about. #ELtchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
1:03 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: The 21GMT is How are you going to grow as a teacher this year? - wont be joining you as have a conference to set up # ... |
AlexandraKouk |
1:03 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @hoprea: RT @Shaunwilden: The 21GMT is How are you going to grow as a teacher this year? #ELTChat > hoe u can join ... |
ColeenMonroe |
1:03 PM |
@teflerinha @eltknowledge @michaelegriffin Again, I disagree. I'm not trying to be pastoral. I did the same when I taught in Chile. #eltchat |
eltknowledge |
1:03 PM |
Thanks for the #eltchat ! Great to be back! Had lots of fun as always! |
kevchanwow |
1:03 PM |
That was an #eltchat of the very first order. Much obliged. Happy new year to all. |
Marisa_C |
1:03 PM |
RT @hoprea: RT @Shaunwilden: The 21GMT is How are you going to grow as a teacher this year? #ELTChat > hoe u can join Henrick |
AlexandraKouk |
1:03 PM |
Great #ELTchat, the first for 2013! Thank u all! |
Marisa_C |
1:03 PM |
@ELTExperiences yes but thanks - will take a raincheck :-) #eltchat |
hoprea |
1:03 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: The 21GMT is How are you going to grow as a teacher this year? #ELTChat |
jenjdobson |
1:05 PM |
#eltchat thanks all. Great first time eltchat for me. |
GemL1 |
1:05 PM |
thanks for a great 1st 2013 #eltchat, look 4ward to many more, c u all soon. |
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