username |
time |
status |
Shaunwilden |
9:00 PM |
The topic is Gamification – a useful innovation for language learning or just a fad? #eltchat |
Wiktor_K |
9:01 PM |
@teacherthom "to gamify" = to make more like a game, just as "to beautify" = to make more beautiful. Just an idea :D #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:01 PM |
RT @DaveDodgson: Gamification - the application of elements of games (esp. video games) to other walks of life, like the classroom #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
9:01 PM |
Hi here is a definition of sort from wikipedia http://t.co/kV0GdCcu on gamification #ELTchat Hi everyon! |
DaveDodgson |
9:01 PM |
Gamification - the application of elements of games (esp. video games) to other walks of life, like the classroom #ELTchat |
SophiaMav |
9:01 PM |
Evening all :) #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:01 PM |
I think we're going to need the term clarified #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:01 PM |
@Shaunwilden Yes, let's :) #ELTchat |
naomishema |
9:01 PM |
Hi! I'm ignorant too! #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:02 PM |
i guess in keeping with the topic we should have a reward systems for contributions to tonight's #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:02 PM |
Have invited @grahamstanley to shed some light on this :-) #ELTchat and hope he'll be here soon |
cioccas |
9:02 PM |
Updating on Hootsuite on my iPad is very slow, might be the wifi I'm using, so not sure I'll be able to fully participate in #ELTchat today |
teacherthom |
9:02 PM |
@teacherphili there's going to need to be some expert handling tonght as I'm still scrathing my head on this one! #eltchat |
naomishema |
9:03 PM |
Games don't mean rewards! as a special ed teacher we do a lot of less competitive playing! #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:03 PM |
@Marisa_C :-) Very true #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:03 PM |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat Well, we have some great bloggers' badges for whoever does the summary sooooo? |
DaveDodgson |
9:03 PM |
RT @Wiktor_K: @teacherthom "to gamify" = to make more like a game, just as "to beautify" = to make more beautiful. Just an idea :D #eltchat |
teacherphili |
9:03 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Have invited @grahamstanley to shed some light on this :-) #ELTchat - I was going to say that's who we need round these parts |
Marisa_C |
9:03 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: i guess in keeping with the topic we should have a reward systems for contributions to tonight's #eltchat :-D |
Shaunwilden |
9:04 PM |
@DaveDodgson @grahamstanley well so much for trying to be humorous #eltchat |
eannegrenoble |
9:04 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Hi here is a definition of sort from wikipedia http://t.co/1Q1VaPnR on gamification #ELTchat Hi everyone :-) |
Marisa_C |
9:04 PM |
@Wiktor_K is this one yours then? #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:04 PM |
@Marisa_C @shaunwilden How about XP for each tweet and RT? ;) #ELTchat |
teacherthom |
9:04 PM |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden and badges! #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:04 PM |
So is it all about just gaming or about the rewards as well? #eltchat |
cioccas |
9:04 PM |
@Marisa_C Wikipedia article mentions reward points and badges - not my cup of tea so that part seems fad-ish to me :-) #ELTchat |
Wiktor_K |
9:04 PM |
@Marisa_C Don't make me have to fight someone for that one again. :D #eltchat |
teacherthom |
9:04 PM |
@Wiktor_K got that, but internet refs seem to talk a lot about the subject in relation to tech, so how does it relate to teaching? #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:04 PM |
@Shaunwilden @grahamstanley did highlight in a recent post that gamificaiton goes beyond just 'rewards' #ELTchat |
cioccas |
9:05 PM |
@Wiktor_K @Marisa_C Sounds like you have a summary writer for this #ELTchat already :-) |
Wiktor_K |
9:05 PM |
@teacherthom Video games are an obvious 1st choice...but even playing hangman in class = gamification in ELT. "Game" is key. #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:06 PM |
@Shaunwilden I opted for the latter :p #ELTchat |
naomishema |
9:06 PM |
If gamification refers to using games in class then it certainly isn't a passing fad! #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:06 PM |
@Shaunwilden Not enough space in the 140 to acknowledge the joke AND make an early point ;) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
9:06 PM |
But we all love playing games or go to these websites no? e.g. Fours Square #eltchat one of my trainees stole my mayrship to my school! :-( |
DaveDodgson |
9:07 PM |
@naomishema Think about having levels, lives, goals, aims etc - all part of the gamified classroom #ELTchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:07 PM |
@naomishema I'd say its more than just using games though #ELTchat |
cioccas |
9:07 PM |
RT @naomishema: If gamification refers to using games in class then it certainly isn't a passing fad! #eltchat |
teacherthom |
9:07 PM |
@Wiktor_K so putting a game on an interactive whiteboard and playing it with a class counts as gamification? #eltchat |
kierandonaghy |
9:08 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: The topic is Gamification – a useful innovation for language learning or just a fad? #eltchat |
teacherphili |
9:08 PM |
@grahamstanley yeah! know anything about it? ELTchat |
kierandonaghy |
9:08 PM |
RT @DaveDodgson: Gamification - the application of elements of games (esp. video games) to other walks of life, like the classroom #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:08 PM |
@grahamstanley i think we need your wisdon on #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:08 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: just heard tonight's #ELTchat is about #gamification hey welcome!!!! |
Wiktor_K |
9:08 PM |
Summer school 2010 -600students divided/ 4 teams over 4 wks - like Hogwarts houses. Points all around. Result: learnt like mad. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:08 PM |
Here they are offering a whole course on this http://t.co/hy8Se9OT #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
9:08 PM |
just heard tonight's #ELTchat is about #gamification |
Shaunwilden |
9:08 PM |
RT @DaveDodgson: @naomishema Think about having levels, lives, goals, aims etc - all part of the gamified classroom #ELTchat |
eannegrenoble |
9:08 PM |
@teacherthom playing a game in class? with no tech #eltchat |
theteacherjames |
9:09 PM |
Jane McGonigal aka @avantgame is the gamification guru. Watch her TED talks here: http://t.co/Vgzq90gq #eltchat |
SophiaMav |
9:09 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @grahamstanley #ELTchat #gamification we were hoping you would come to shed some light on this - is it a fad? #ELTchat |
Wiktor_K |
9:09 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Here they are offering a whole course on this http://t.co/qoPcu2go - ooh, coursera. Lovely! #eltchat |
teacherthom |
9:09 PM |
@Wiktor_K sounds fun! #eltchat |
eannegrenoble |
9:09 PM |
@grahamstanley we were up to definition of Gaming - in 140 charaters :-)#ELTchat #gamification |
Marisa_C |
9:09 PM |
@grahamstanley #ELTchat #gamification we were hoping you would come to shed some light on this - is it a fad? |
grahamstanley |
9:10 PM |
@eannegrenoble #ELTchat #gamification is the use of game design thinking in non-game contexts - is that the definition you had? |
teacherthom |
9:10 PM |
@DaveDodgson @naomishema ok so to run with that for a sec, aren't we looking at a massive increase in prep time 2 make it work? #eltchat |
cerirhiannon |
9:10 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: Jane McGonigal aka @avantgame gamification guru. TED talks http://t.co/SMVs28lb #eltchat > a must see #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:10 PM |
is it just the logical next step of in terms of using tools at our disposal? #eltchat |
haniehak |
9:10 PM |
@teacherthom @wiktor_k Even Learning Eng Ipad n mobile apps can be some examples of it. #eltchat Not just apps, even simple games like Bingo |
grahamstanley |
9:10 PM |
@teacherphili a little - am very interested in it @Marisa_C a fad? It could be - time will tell #ELTchat #gamification |
teacherthom |
9:11 PM |
@DaveDodgson @naomishema ...which isn't to say it's bad but certainly something we'd struggle with to do every lesson #eltchat |
naomishema |
9:11 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: I think gamification isn't about playing games in class, but using the mechanics of game play to change how we teac ... |
Marisa_C |
9:11 PM |
Here is an interesting article on how ts got Ss to build own games as prt of this http://t.co/6ss9GT0m #eltchat |
theteacherjames |
9:11 PM |
I think gamification isn't about playing games in class, but using the mechanics of game play to change how we teach. #eltchat |
naomishema |
9:11 PM |
RT @teacherthom: @DaveDodgson @naomishema ok so to run with that for a sec, aren't we looking at a massive increase in prep time 2 make ... |
cerirhiannon |
9:12 PM |
#eltchat is it also turning learning into a game ie using game design to structure learning experiences? |
Marisa_C |
9:12 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: "gamification isnt about playing games in class, but using the mechanics of game play to change how we teach." #eltchat |
naomishema |
9:12 PM |
@DaveDodgson thanks for clearing that up! #ELTchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:12 PM |
@teacherthom @naomishema A mindset, we could say... #ELTchat |
Wiktor_K |
9:12 PM |
@theteacherjames: "gamification isnt about playing games in class, but using the mechanics of game play to change how we teach." #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:12 PM |
I mean board games - like., prehistoric... :-D #ELTchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:12 PM |
@teacherthom @naomishema I wouldn't say so. It's just a way to approach things - doesn't have to include lots of prep #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
9:12 PM |
So when I got my Ss to make their own games, was i engaging them in gamification? #ELTchat - or not? |
Shaunwilden |
9:13 PM |
@DaveDodgson @theteacherjames to change how we teach? really? #eltchat |
theteacherjames |
9:13 PM |
I really like the idea of using 'lives', 'bonuses', 'power-ups' & 'rewards' with my classes. Not sure how but I like it! #eltchat |
teacherthom |
9:13 PM |
@DaveDodgson @naomishema interesting! I could go with that, I think! #eltchat |
vmorgana |
9:13 PM |
Here is an article about What teachers really think about game-based learning. http://t.co/Ht4hk6mh #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:13 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat is it also turning learning into a game ie using game design to structure learning experiences? > If so I;m a fan |
DaveDodgson |
9:13 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: I think it isn't about playing games in class, but using the mechanics of game play to change how we teach. #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
9:14 PM |
#ELTchat #gamification has lots of pitfalls - it's not just about PBL (points, badges, levels) see Paul Driver in http://t.co/tRcpdruO |
theteacherjames |
9:14 PM |
@Shaunwilden @DaveDodgson Maybe, why not? the most interesting influences come from the most unlikely places. #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:14 PM |
Lİke anything, there is great potential for misapplicaiton e.g. simply renaming units as 'levels' or just focusing on rewards #ELTchat |
Wiktor_K |
9:14 PM |
Wikipedia for "game": you need rules, challenge & interaction. All this already in a good ELT lesson - just make it more explicit? #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:15 PM |
@theteacherjames @shaunwilden think about it - when you start to play a game, you fail a lot and slowly figure it out... #ELTchat |
theteacherjames |
9:15 PM |
@Shaunwilden @DaveDodgson And games are very effective in terms of motivation, ownership & engagement. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:15 PM |
@theteacherjames I think it is a bold claim to sya change the way we teach #eltchat |
haniehak |
9:15 PM |
@theteacherjames Guess it's altering games to engage ss n meet the aim of the lesson, motivating for sure! #eltchat #gamification |
DaveDodgson |
9:15 PM |
@theteacherjames I've used 'level-ups' with YLs in return for following class rules, rewards for getting to Lvl 5 :-) #ELTchat |
cerirhiannon |
9:16 PM |
@DaveDodgson @theteacherjames @shaunwilden certainly builds tolerance to error and failure and a try again mentality #eltchat |
theteacherjames |
9:16 PM |
@Shaunwilden It could do, to some degree. Doesn't have to mean revolution, just a subtle change in mindset. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:16 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: I am collecting articles, etc on #gamification here: http://t.co/MRbd84Jg #eltchat > great! thanks for that |
Shaunwilden |
9:16 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: I am collecting articles, etc on #gamification here: http://t.co/dbXkFX3U #eltchat |
eannegrenoble |
9:16 PM |
@theteacherjames what about the punishment by rewards http://t.co/9WTrtntQ - Alfi Cohn #eltchat |
teacherthom |
9:16 PM |
so given the power-ups, badges, levels etc. are we looking at something more for younger learners? #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:16 PM |
@theteacherjames @shaunwilden A useful mindset to have when learning something like a foriegn language #ELTchat |
grahamstanley |
9:16 PM |
I am collecting articles, etc on #gamification here: http://t.co/dbXkFX3U #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
9:17 PM |
#eltchat #gamification for me can have a role to play in behaviour management , motivation and assessment in ELT (particularly with YLs) |
Wiktor_K |
9:17 PM |
@teacherthom Not necessarily - sell "present perfect" a superpower: "now I can combine the past and future!" :) #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:17 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @grahamstanley: I am collecting articles, etc on #gamification here: http://t.co/FWVhfyCK #eltchat |
theteacherjames |
9:17 PM |
@eannegrenoble Interesting point, don't know that argument but there could be something to it. #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:17 PM |
@theteacherjames @shaunwilden ..and with games, you always have another chance (turn it off and on and reoload!) #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:17 PM |
@theteacherjames a minor degree but lets not nitpick :-) #eltchat |
MarjorieRosenbe |
9:17 PM |
@naomishema forgot hash tag. Cooperative learning uses games without ind rewards. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:18 PM |
Here is another article I pinned earlier http://t.co/KpGEpdqe #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:18 PM |
@Shaunwilden @grahamstanley check out http://t.co/mNrH2xzn for a useful example of that #ELTchat |
teacherphili |
9:18 PM |
This #gamification thing is more about classroom management than I realised #ELTchat |
teacherthom |
9:18 PM |
@grahamstanley yep, it's shouting out YLs to me #eltchat |
cerirhiannon |
9:18 PM |
#eltchat also encourages collaboration and learning together - from each other #eltchat |
theteacherjames |
9:18 PM |
@Shaunwilden Depends on the teacher, surely. I heard about these teachers who were inspired by Danish filmmakers... #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:18 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat #gamification for me can have a role to play in behaviour management , motivation and assessment in ELT (p ... |
haniehak |
9:18 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: #ELTchat #gamification has lots of pitfalls - it's not just about PBL (points, badges, levels) see Paul Driver in ht ... |
theteacherjames |
9:19 PM |
@DaveDodgson @shaunwilden Yes to all of those, plus the obvious familiarity for many YL's. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
9:19 PM |
@grahamstanley So what are some of the pitfalls you would caution Ts abt? #ELTchat #gamification |
DaveDodgson |
9:20 PM |
@teacherphili Students can take home the access code and look after it at the weekends! #ELTchat |
Wiktor_K |
9:20 PM |
@naomishema could manage a big class better with help of gamification...in theory? #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:20 PM |
@teacherphili Not always. Take the classic 'class pet' idea. It can be recreated with an online pet avatar #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:20 PM |
@DaveDodgson aye i've been showing that to teachers recently - i wouldnt have called it gamification though #eltchat |
naomishema |
9:20 PM |
Do you think the factor of class size is relevant here? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:21 PM |
@grahamstanley This is a most excellent wiki Graham!!!! #ELTchat #gamification |
teacherphili |
9:21 PM |
@DaveDodgson you mean like a tamaguchi? #ELTchat http://t.co/8xZRiP8g |
naomishema |
9:21 PM |
@muranava Interesting point! #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:21 PM |
RT @muranava: hi all, any qualms about the behaviourist basis of gamefication? #eltchat |
muranava |
9:21 PM |
hi all, any qualms about the behaviourist basis of gamefication? #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:22 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: @Marisa_C pitfalls? too much focus on extrinsic motivation, demotivating some students #ELTchat #gamification |
Shaunwilden |
9:22 PM |
@DaveDodgson to me its more of a 21st reward system of the type we used to more manually do #eltchat |
teacherthom |
9:22 PM |
@grahamstanley @teacherphili @Marisa_C and prep time? not meaning 2b a stick in the mud but just putting my practical hat on 4 a mo #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:22 PM |
@Shaunwilden Avatars, points (like XP) for various 'achievements' - that was a language my YLs could understand #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
9:22 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: @Marisa_C pitfalls? too much focus on extrinsic motivation, demotivating some students #ELTchat #gamification |
naomishema |
9:22 PM |
@Wiktor_K Really don't know. classroom management is tricky with 38 adults! #eltchat |
haniehak |
9:22 PM |
@grahamstanley I have some ideas of gamification in my classes but haven't assessed ss by using it, I wonder how it's possible... #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
9:22 PM |
@Marisa_C pitfalls? too much focus on extrinsic motivation, demotivating some students #ELTchat #gamification |
DaveDodgson |
9:22 PM |
@Shaunwilden Depends how you introduce it to the class... #ELTchat |
MiconBot |
9:23 PM |
RT @Wiktor_K: @muranava every game can be behaviourist or v. communicative - playing poker to win $ is different than playing to meet fr ... |
theteacherjames |
9:23 PM |
The next tweet is by Jane McGonigal about when we play a game... #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:23 PM |
@teacherphili Yea, something like that :) #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:23 PM |
So if it's not a fad, how would a teacher get started? #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:23 PM |
@Marisa_C @grahamstanley Yes, have seen kids upset about not getting a 'level-up' but same is true of any points based system #ELTchat |
Wiktor_K |
9:23 PM |
@muranava every game can be behaviourist or v. communicative - playing poker to win $ is different than playing to meet friends #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:23 PM |
@DaveDodgson gamification for me, is like you said earlier, the whole package #eltchat |
Wiktor_K |
9:24 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: So if its not a fad, how would a teacher get started? - I'd find out what games my Ss enjoy and take it from there #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:24 PM |
@DaveDodgson #ELTchat so true - but play is part of the way kids learn anything and everything - no? |
cerirhiannon |
9:24 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: “We tackle tough challenges with more creativity, more determination, & we're more likely to reach out to other ... |
theteacherjames |
9:24 PM |
“We tackle tough challenges with more creativity, more determination, & we're more likely to reach out to others for help.” #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
9:25 PM |
Lee Sheldon's 'Multiplayer Classroom' book is a must for anyone interested in #gamification #eltchat - blog here: http://t.co/CBCp1DVf |
DaveDodgson |
9:25 PM |
Game concepts are also useful for problem solving and creative thinking #ELTchat |
haniehak |
9:25 PM |
@grahamstanley @marisa_c n sometimes ss can predict the stages of any lesson if it is used many times, again demotivating! #eltchat |
fatihyucelelt |
9:25 PM |
RT @vmorgana: Here is an article about What teachers really think about game-based learning. http://t.co/Ht4hk6mh #eltchat |
cerirhiannon |
9:25 PM |
#eltchat can gamification also include the use of games as a means of learning throuhg doing -a kind of gamified CLIL? |
DaveDodgson |
9:25 PM |
@Shaunwilden Same for me - rewards is a nice way to introduce the concept though. Problem is, many Ts seem to stop there, #ELTchat |
teacherphili |
9:25 PM |
@Marisa_C @DaveDodgson it (learning through play) comes naturally with learners of a certain age, surely? #ELTchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:26 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: Lee Sheldon's 'Multiplayer Classroom' book is a must for anyone interested in #gamification #eltchat http://t.co/QS2ayve6 |
teacherphili |
9:26 PM |
Based on some of the definitions, I've used aspects of #gamification in the past without realising fully what I was doing. #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:26 PM |
RT @DaveDodgson: Game concepts are also useful for problem solving and creative thinking #ELTchat So it's task based learning :-) |
muranava |
9:26 PM |
@Wiktor_K true, though playing games is diff from using game elements in class no? #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:26 PM |
@Marisa_C @teacherphili Yes, but that natural element is so often excluded from classrooms! #ELTchat |
fatihyucelelt |
9:26 PM |
RT @DaveDodgson: RT @theteacherjames: I think it isn't about playing games in class, but using the mechanics of game play to change how ... |
Marisa_C |
9:27 PM |
RT @grahamstanley:used #gamification successfully this term with 13yr olds - lots of progress in writing http://t.co/RHKImbrg #eltchat |
cerirhiannon |
9:27 PM |
RT @teacherphili: ..esply when tapping into competitive streak #ELTchat > good when they're competing against the game and not each other |
Wiktor_K |
9:27 PM |
@grahamstanley Oh, so gamification is applied to relationships as well (as I read on the blog)? That's cute! #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
9:27 PM |
I have used #gamification successfully this term with 13yr olds - lots of progress in writing http://t.co/cEXApYNu #eltchat |
teacherphili |
9:27 PM |
..especially when tapping into their competitive streak #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
9:28 PM |
@grahamstanley #gamification #eltchat I used to get ss to make their own board games to write the rules, cards, penalties, eeverything |
DaveDodgson |
9:28 PM |
@Shaunwilden Not really but there are connections ;) #ELTchat |
MarjorieRosenbe |
9:29 PM |
@DaveDodgson Problem solving and analytic games have also been around for long time. Are these gamification? #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
9:29 PM |
#eltchat writing quickly became the most popular activity of the class - when it was unpopular at the beginning of term #gamification |
english247 |
9:30 PM |
Learn #English with #Christmas songs: Winter Wonderland - elementary multiple choice listening http://t.co/cnfGQmKB #kids #esl #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
9:30 PM |
#eltchat will write a follow-up post on http://t.co/JeYIgtcL soon #gamification |
DaveDodgson |
9:30 PM |
@Shaunwilden It's also like CLIL - my YLs have learned a lot of real world info from games #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
9:30 PM |
My Ss' greatest masterpieces were board games for '49 steps' and "macbeth' #ELTchat |
teacherphili |
9:30 PM |
@cerirhiannon yes, i see that as a potential pitfall, though for one class i taught it was more 'against each other' than the game. #ELTchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:31 PM |
@MarjorieRosenbe ..but I would also branch out to include elements of games applied to the classroom #ELTchat |
haniehak |
9:31 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @grahamstanley:used #gamification successfully this term with 13yr olds - lots of progress in writing http://t.co/RHKIm ... |
DaveDodgson |
9:31 PM |
@MarjorieRosenbe Games adapted for the classroom? Sure - for me that's part of it #ELTchat |
teacherphili |
9:31 PM |
@grahamstanley how does one get to join your fun class? #ELTchat |
Wiktor_K |
9:31 PM |
Maybe @grahamstanley 's idea could save Ts work - instead of coming up with a system, let Ss decide parts of what games 2 use #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:31 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat will write a follow-up post on http://t.co/OmTTge1U soon #gamification |
grahamstanley |
9:32 PM |
@Wiktor_K yes, and the best part is assessment for me - no more pass/fail with #gamification #eltchat |
teacherphili |
9:32 PM |
@cerirhiannon I understand. #ELTchat |
cerirhiannon |
9:32 PM |
RT @DaveDodgson: @Shaunwilden It's also like CLIL - my YLs have learned a lot of real world info from games #ELTchat > agree |
MarjorieRosenbe |
9:32 PM |
@DaveDodgson Sts who didnt like games liked analytic activities. #eltchat |
cerirhiannon |
9:32 PM |
@teacherphili #eltchat that0s part of the challenge to get the students to compete against themselves and the game and work on it together |
naomishema |
9:33 PM |
Sorry folks, can't stay any longer. It's been a long day at work, 11:30 p.m here! Good night! #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:33 PM |
Games are also such a big part of YLs lives - I asked a class to describe their favourite games & they came out with tons of vocab #ELTchat |
cerirhiannon |
9:33 PM |
@teacherphili :) #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:34 PM |
...and structures they had acquired from games. Using those terms in class for a non-gaming topic helps me connect with them #ELTchat |
theteacherjames |
9:34 PM |
As in @grahamstanley's post http://t.co/i4QTqtGF, rewards are not the ultimate aim, they just help towards the main linguistic goal #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:34 PM |
@Marisa_C depends on the game :-) #eltchat |
cerirhiannon |
9:34 PM |
RT @DaveDodgson: class describe favourite games & came out wtons of vocab #ELTchat >worked for me with young adults too |
Marisa_C |
9:34 PM |
many of us use games in teacher training as well - any thoughts on this? Do all trainees respond positively? #ELTchat |
Wiktor_K |
9:34 PM |
@grahamstanley Get a camera to class, good Sir, and show us this new-fangled wonderschool ;) #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:35 PM |
@Marisa_C you asked if trainees responded postively i was answering #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:35 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C and on how it is managed! #ELTchat |
JMGubbins |
9:35 PM |
@Marisa_C Not everyone will respond the same way; but, isn't that what differentiated learning is all about? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
9:35 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C depends on the game :-) #eltchat > splain pls? |
Marisa_C |
9:36 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: I've seen far too many games and not enough focus on purpose in the classroom of late #eltchat> Hear hear! |
Shaunwilden |
9:36 PM |
I've seen far too many games and not enough focus on purpose in the classroom of late #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:36 PM |
@JMGubbins #ELTchat for sure - much easier to take this approach with YLs tho some adults might consider this "unserious" |
grahamstanley |
9:36 PM |
#eltchat instead of pass/fail students earn experience points and increase in level - interesting twist on assessment |
Wiktor_K |
9:37 PM |
@Shaunwilden too many games - true, & Ss (esp YLs) pick up the "fake game" awfully quick - "it's not fun, just pretending to play" #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:37 PM |
@Shaunwilden you meant in tt sessions then? #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:37 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat instead of pass/fail students earn experience points and increase in level - interesting twist on assessment |
teacherthom |
9:37 PM |
@grahamstanley certainly less difficult for those who fail #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:38 PM |
@DaveDodgson oh am not anti games dont get me wrong #eltchat |
haniehak |
9:38 PM |
@marisa_c back to the CELTA we had a colleague she said her ss would think she is wasting time instead of teaching #eltchat context matters! |
Marisa_C |
9:38 PM |
@teacherthom we do all the time in my school #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
9:38 PM |
@bcnpaul1 has done a lot on teacher development and #gamification http://t.co/WbTlx4XW #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:38 PM |
@Shaunwilden My students often struggle with descriptive writing. Ask them to describe a game or place in a game & they cant stop!! #ELTchat |
kierandonaghy |
9:38 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat instead of pass/fail students earn experience points and increase in level - interesting twist on assessment |
teacherthom |
9:38 PM |
@Marisa_C @JMGubbins couldn't agree more, has anyone actually tried this with adult learners? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:39 PM |
@DaveDodgson just seem to many here's a fun activity approaches by teachers #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:39 PM |
@haniehak indeed - that's what is sometimes the reaction - same as some parents may object to games not being real learning #eltchat |
eannegrenoble |
9:39 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat instead of pass/fail students earn experience points and increase in level - a new name for gold stars? |
cerirhiannon |
9:39 PM |
RT @teacherthom: @grahamstanley less difficult for those who fail #eltchat < but still frustrating if you're the one with least points |
Marisa_C |
9:40 PM |
RT @teacherthom: @Marisa_C gamification or playing games? #eltchat > the chicken or the egg? :-D |
kierandonaghy |
9:40 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: @bcnpaul1 has done a lot on teacher development and #gamification http://t.co/WbTlx4XW #eltchat |
kevinmace |
9:40 PM |
RT @DaveDodgson: RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat instead of pass/fail students earn experience points and increase in level - interesting ... |
teacherthom |
9:40 PM |
@Marisa_C gamification or playing games? #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:40 PM |
@Shaunwilden I think we're on the same page (or level!) Games for games' sake are often a waste of time #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:40 PM |
RT @eannegrenoble: RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat instead of pass/fail students earn experience points and increase in level - a new na ... |
DaveDodgson |
9:41 PM |
@Marisa_C @haniehak I have had parents thank me for getting their kids motivated by referring to games/incorprating elements #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:41 PM |
@DaveDodgson yes we are - its tricky for (new) teachers to grasp what is needed to make the game as effective as possible #eltchat |
Wiktor_K |
9:41 PM |
@DaveDodgson Disagree. Your brain works better when in a game - and this alone is immense benefit. Play a game + throw in language! #eltchat |
SophiaMav |
9:41 PM |
Do teachers need to play games themselves to apply #gamification effectively in class? Be familiar with concepts & procedures? #ELTchat |
teacherthom |
9:41 PM |
@cerirhiannon @grahamstanley there's a res project right there: does it feel better to fail or b the one with the fewest points? #eltchat |
haniehak |
9:42 PM |
@grahamstanley great idea but would ss take it seriously? #eltchat needs time n awareness raising |
teacherthom |
9:42 PM |
RT @Marisa_C gamification or playing games? #eltchat > the chicken or the egg? :-D > you tell me! |
cerirhiannon |
9:42 PM |
@teacherthom @grahamstanley I am always the one with fewest points if i join in my kids games - it hurts ;) #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:42 PM |
@DaveDodgson #ELTchat that's great when it happens and it is as it should be - but not all or everywhere react this way |
DaveDodgson |
9:42 PM |
@Marisa_C @haniehak Two sides, as always! #ELTchat |
theteacherjames |
9:43 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: I've seen far too many games & not enough focus on purpose in the classroom of late. #eltchat |
cerirhiannon |
9:43 PM |
@teacherthom @grahamstanley guess game design/implementation is important - within all the learners' reach wout being patronising #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:43 PM |
@Marisa_C I did give those parents a level up for saying so :p #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
9:43 PM |
@teacherthom #eltchat don't have an answer yet - need to study all the good reading @grahamstanley has given us this evening |
DaveDodgson |
9:43 PM |
@Wiktor_K I think in some classes the language is often not thrown in though... or it is and it misses! #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:43 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: @bcnpaul1 and I did a #tesol #evonline course on #gamification and #gbl last year http://t.co/7TLWkBG1 #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
9:44 PM |
Do you think that adults are as happy to play games? My students sometimes see them as a waste of time #ELTchat |
teacherthom |
9:44 PM |
@cerirhiannon @grahamstanley 1st participant fb in! just booting up SPSS now... #eltchat |
Wiktor_K |
9:44 PM |
@DaveDodgson Gotcha. Early days for games in education - hit & miss pretty much assured till all worked out. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:45 PM |
This just came up in my timeline #eltchat Game Based Learning – Why Does it Work? http://t.co/WsNime5E |
DaveDodgson |
9:45 PM |
@SueAnnan I bet the ones who say that play on their phones or FB! #ELTchat |
teacherthom |
9:45 PM |
@Marisa_C @grahamstanley me too :) #eltchat |
teacherphili |
9:45 PM |
@SueAnnan good point, Sue - I think it's been focused so far on the needs of YLs #ELTchat |
cerirhiannon |
9:45 PM |
@teacherthom :) #eltchat |
gtorrado |
9:46 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: Lee Sheldon's 'Multiplayer Classroom' book is a must for anyone interested in #gamification #eltchat - blog here: htt ... |
MarjorieRosenbe |
9:46 PM |
@naomishema good night and sleep.well. #eltchat |
Wiktor_K |
9:46 PM |
@SueAnnan I'd love a "grown-up" game that'd help me learn Spanish without making me chase balloons and such :) #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:46 PM |
RT @teacherphili: @cerirhiannon @SueAnnan I can only think of 'Twister' #ELTchat ;-) |
haniehak |
9:46 PM |
@davedodgson @marisa_c and some will def change their mind toward the end of the term when they c their kids r really learning! #eltchat |
teacherphili |
9:46 PM |
@cerirhiannon @SueAnnan I can only think of 'Twister' #ELTchat ;-) |
theteacherjames |
9:46 PM |
It might be worth pointing out to any latecomers that gamification does not necessarily mean playing games. #eltchat |
gtorrado |
9:46 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: I have used #gamification successfully this term with 13yr olds - lots of progress in writing http://t.co/cEXApYNu # ... |
gtorrado |
9:46 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat will write a follow-up post on http://t.co/JeYIgtcL soon #gamification |
Marisa_C |
9:46 PM |
@SueAnnan #ELTchat Our adults seem to take to games like a duck to water tho I smtms worry as from diff cultures.... but not so far |
cerirhiannon |
9:46 PM |
@teacherphili @SueAnnan some games are very adult #eltchat |
haniehak |
9:47 PM |
@teacherphili @cerirhiannon @sueannan I do believe adults need more games, seriously! #eltchat |
gtorrado |
9:47 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: I am collecting articles, etc on #gamification here: http://t.co/dbXkFX3U #eltchat |
theteacherjames |
9:47 PM |
@DaveDodgson @SueAnnan Sounds like they've been given the wrong games to me! #ELTchat |
grahamstanley |
9:47 PM |
@teacherthom that's why it can't be just about points - levelling up makes it about personal goals and badges help too #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:47 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: It might be worth pointing out to any latecomers that gamification does not necessarily mean playing games. #eltchat |
muranava |
9:48 PM |
taking it beyond gamefication for YLs see http://t.co/8IdDCmIx by @chadsansing amongst othrs #eltchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:48 PM |
@grahamstanley @teachethom A useful way to promote self-assessment then? #ELTchat |
JL3001 |
9:49 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @theteacherjames: "gamification isnt about playing games in class, but using the mechanics of game play to change how w ... |
teacherthom |
9:50 PM |
@grahamstanley ...like I said, interesting project for anyone with the time/inclination #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
9:50 PM |
@theteacherjames @DaveDodgson I tend to sell them as ' game-like activities for language learning' #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:50 PM |
RT @teacherthom: @grahamstanley I think the point still stands though, can one approach be shown to make a student feel better/worse tha ... |
teacherthom |
9:50 PM |
@grahamstanley I think the point still stands though, can one approach be shown to make a student feel better/worse than the other? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:52 PM |
@teacherthom #eltchat Question is not really about time I think but about value or otherwise |
Marisa_C |
9:53 PM |
am pinning all #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:53 PM |
5 mins left of #eltchat summary writer needed |
DaveDodgson |
9:53 PM |
RT @teacherphili: Plenty of useful links tonight should anyone wish to investigate the concept of 'gamification' further #ELTchat #summary |
Marisa_C |
9:53 PM |
RT @teacherphili: Plenty of useful links tonight should anyone wish to investigate the concept of 'gamification' further #ELTchat #summary |
DaveDodgson |
9:53 PM |
Elements of media such as video, music & print have long been embraced in classrooms. The same should be true of games :) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
9:53 PM |
@haniehak sweet vindication :-) #eltchat |
teacherphili |
9:53 PM |
Plenty of useful links tonight should anyone wish to investigate the concept of 'gamification' further #ELTchat #summary |
grahamstanley |
9:54 PM |
Interesting graphic from Coursera MOOC on #gamification http://t.co/BVpyGKZJ #eltchat see http://t.co/wMxDbg9G |
Wiktor_K |
9:54 PM |
Writer is ready to go :) #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:54 PM |
@Marisa_C oh do we, musta missed that #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:54 PM |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat we have a writer |
Marisa_C |
9:55 PM |
RT @Wiktor_K: Writer is ready to go :) #eltchat - here he is |
muranava |
9:55 PM |
i c often parallel btw hollywood trying to attract youth with game remakes and gamefication in ELT #eltchat |
teacherphili |
9:55 PM |
@Wiktor_K Is it You? #ELTchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:55 PM |
@Marisa_C @shaunwilden Do you? Was going to volunteer.. Maybe another time ;) #ELTchat |
teacherthom |
9:56 PM |
@Marisa_C ...threw out many ideas before finally settling on my MA diss topic so yeah, I think time is an issue #eltchat |
teacherthom |
9:56 PM |
@Marisa_C any res worth publishing has to be detailed enough and therefore takes time... #eltchat |
theteacherjames |
9:56 PM |
RT @DaveDodgson: Elements of media such as video, music & print have long been embraced in classrooms. The same should be true of ga ... |
kierandonaghy |
9:57 PM |
RT @grahamstanley: Interesting graphic from Coursera MOOC on #gamification http://t.co/BVpyGKZJ #eltchat see http://t.co/wMxDbg9G |
teacherphili |
9:57 PM |
I've been resisting up til now but I can't sign off without quoting: "Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges!" #ELTchat #goodnight |
eannegrenoble |
9:57 PM |
@grahamstanley Thanks for the collection of reading - http://t.co/0PZSGTPf and thanks all - #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:57 PM |
@skrashen siad sth abt rewarding ppl to do sth they enjoy may ultimately demotivate #eLtchat |
DaveDodgson |
9:58 PM |
@Marisa_C True, but rewards are only a small part of it #ELTchat |
teacherphili |
9:58 PM |
Is there an #ELTchat next week? - It's Christmas - just checkin' - I was only joking about the stinkin' badges ;-) |
SueAnnan |
9:58 PM |
Thanks for an interesting chat. learned a lot tonight :-) Great MOds as always #ELTchat |
Wiktor_K |
9:58 PM |
@teacherphili LOL :) badges are just the start...tomorrow, the world! #eltchat |
MarjorieRosenbe |
9:58 PM |
Night all. Cant stay awake anymore. #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
9:58 PM |
@teacherphili #ELTchat #goodnight ok no badge for your blog them :-D |
muranava |
9:59 PM |
thx all and mods #eltchat |
haniehak |
9:59 PM |
@davedodgson @grahamstanley food for thought,the implications aren't simple,still can't encourage my ss to do the can do statements #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
9:59 PM |
@teacherphili Nah your reward is time off for good chatting :-) #eltchat |
eannegrenoble |
9:59 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @skrashen said sth abt rewarding ppl to do sth they enjoy may ultimately demotivate #eLtchat >>the book http://t.co/9WTrtntQ |
theteacherjames |
10:00 PM |
Thanks for a great #eltchat everyone & for a fantastic year of #eltchatting!! |
Shaunwilden |
10:00 PM |
Thanks for joining us, loads of post #eltchat reading. There wont be an #eltchat for a couple of weeks so happy holidays all |
cioccas |
10:00 PM |
Missed most of #ELTchat - got dragged into kitchen by my nieces to make French toast - with fresh blueberries we picked yesterday :) |
DaveDodgson |
10:00 PM |
@Shaunwilden @teacherphili shouldn'T we have a special #eltchat bonus Christmas level? :p #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
10:00 PM |
Thank you all for joining us - we'll take a break for Xmas - see you in the New Year??? #Eltchat |
teacherphili |
10:00 PM |
@Shaunwilden it's ok, gots me a summary to write on VLEs #ELTchat. See ya! |
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