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Tips and best practices for meaningful and motivating homework

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Marisa_C Hello everyone on #ELTchat - it's time to talk about homework - anyone here? (or shall we both go home :-D ) Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:01:02 +0000
theteacherjames @Marisa_C I'm here :-) #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:01:24 +0000
SophiaKhan4 RT @Marisa_C: Hello everyone on #ELTchat - it's time to talk about homework - anyone here? (or shall we both go home :-D ) Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:01:33 +0000
Marisa_C @SophiaKhan4 @theteacherjames @EwaMalicka_ELT @michaelegriffin  #ELTchat hi all - glad am not on me own :-) Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:02:01 +0000
esolcourses RT @theteacherjames: @Marisa_C I'm here :-) #ELTchat me too :-) Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:02:03 +0000
Marisa_C @esolcourses yay #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:02:09 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C haha I'm here! Homework it it? I clearly can't read poll results...#eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:02:09 +0000
Marisa_C @SophiaKhan4 whohoo #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:02:24 +0000
Marisa_C So what types of homework are there? What do you usually assign? #Eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:03:52 +0000
NailahRokic @Marisa_C I'm here for the chat after a long while away #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:04:17 +0000
theteacherjames Homework is a very interesting topic. Probably a bit controversial too... #excellent #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:04:19 +0000
FrancesEales #eltchat And me! Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:04:21 +0000
Marisa_C @FrancesEales @NailahRokic  #eltchat great to have you both join - hop on!!!  #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:04:46 +0000
theteacherjames The homework I set tends to be one of two things: revise what we did in class & I'll quiz you next time, or writing. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:05:45 +0000
BobK99 @Marisa_C  #ELTchat Me too. Still learning to drive Tweetdeck - so for the last 5 minutes I've been wondering where everybody was :-) Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:06:10 +0000
Marisa_C @theteacherjames so hw needs to be done or else ???? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:06:23 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C I usu assign non-essential work & pin up answers at a specific time, &give credit (er, stickers) for work completed :) #ELTChat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:06:32 +0000
Marisa_C @BobK99 tweetdeck is silly sometimes - welcome  #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:06:43 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C I mean extra readings, vocab work etc. #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:07:12 +0000
Marisa_C @SophiaKhan4 by non essential what to do mean Sophia? motivating? fun?  #ELTChat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:07:17 +0000
Marisa_C @SophiaKhan4 ok gotcha #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:07:25 +0000
KerrCarolyn #ELTChat - Sorry I'm late. I left my homework on the bus and ran back to get it, but I was too late Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:07:26 +0000
theteacherjames @Marisa_C We have to find another way. Teaching adults means I can't exactly lay down the law, it's up to them if they do it or not #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:07:31 +0000
Marisa_C RT @KerrCarolyn: #ELTChat - Sorry I'm late. I left my homework on the bus and ran back to get it, but I was too late > lol Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:07:43 +0000
esolcourses I always set optional extra work to do out of class, & IME (with adults and teens) s's who do it tend to make better progress #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:07:44 +0000
esolcourses RT @theteacherjames: @Marisa_C Teaching adults means I can't exactly lay down the law, it's up to them if they do it or not #eltchat ] agree Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:08:11 +0000
Marisa_C @esolcourses good - key word is optional  #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:08:17 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C Probably only if you get a kick out or gapfills (I do!) I leave out stuff I think could done at home and self-checked #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:08:34 +0000
Marisa_C But is homework beneficial first of all - what do you think? Is it necessary? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:08:45 +0000
theteacherjames @KerrCarolyn Welcome. Don't worry, I'm sure it was eaten by a dog... #ELTChat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:08:49 +0000
SophiaKhan4 RT @Marisa_C: RT @KerrCarolyn: #ELTChat - Sorry I'm late. I left my homework on the bus and ran back to get it, but I was too late > lol Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:08:59 +0000
Marisa_C RT @theteacherjames: @KerrCarolyn Welcome. Don't worry, I'm sure it was eaten by a dog... #ELTChat :-D 0r an alien Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:09:09 +0000
KerrCarolyn @SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C #ELTChat - self checked is important for me. How many times have I forgotten to check HW - too many!!! Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:09:25 +0000
theteacherjames @esolcourses Yes, that's the best way with adults. It also means that if they are not happy with their progress... #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:09:53 +0000
esolcourses @theteacherjames @Marisa_C IMO, pre-reading and post lesson activities really help to consolidate work covered in class #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:10:08 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @KerrCarolyn @Marisa_C Yeah, saves time for us and makes adult learners more autonomous too #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:10:09 +0000
KerrCarolyn @Marisa_C @theteacherjames #ELTChat - I was stunned to discover that adults seriously fib about homework =) Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:10:19 +0000
SophiaKhan4 RT @Marisa_C: But is homework beneficial first of all - what do you think? Is it necessary? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:10:27 +0000
theteacherjames @esolcourses ...you can ask them how much self study they are doing and know you gave them the opportunity. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:10:32 +0000
esolcourses RT @SophiaKhan4: @KerrCarolyn @Marisa_C Yeah, saves time for us and makes adult learners more autonomous too #ELTchat ] agree Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:10:42 +0000
teflgeek Hi Everyone #eltchat.  Sorry I'm late.  Connection issues. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:11:08 +0000
esolcourses RT @theteacherjames: ...you can ask them how much self study they are doing and know you gave them the opportunity. #eltchat ] yep Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:11:15 +0000
theteacherjames @KerrCarolyn @Marisa_C Unbelievable isn't it? Just tell the truth, I can handle it! #ELTChat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:11:20 +0000
FrancesEales #eltchat Not sure that research indicates it is 'good' but they often look at grades and tests to measure. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:11:30 +0000
SophiaKhan4 RT @theteacherjames: @esolcourses you can ask them how much self study they r doing & know you gave them the opportunity. #eltchat>exactly Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:11:46 +0000
KerrCarolyn @Marisa_C #ELTChat - i think exposure to English outside the classroom is very important and homework is one way - but is it a good way? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:12:00 +0000
Marisa_C May I share a ppt presentation i did at Istek schools recently http://t.co/fTFpiRLl Homework or Busywork? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:12:15 +0000
FrancesEales #eltchat I'm referring to Hattie's research on metaanalyses which looked at homework across topics and millions of sts. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:12:26 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @KerrCarolyn @Marisa_C @theteacherjames Ha, the more things change...#Eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:12:31 +0000
theteacherjames RT @Marisa_C: May I share a ppt presentation i did at Istek schools recently http://t.co/fTFpiRLl Homework or Busywork? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:12:32 +0000
teflgeek @KerrCarolyn @Marisa_C doesn't that depend on what the homework is? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:12:40 +0000
esolcourses RT @KerrCarolyn: @Marisa_C #ELTChat - i think exposure to English outside the classroom is very important and homework is one way - but is it a good way? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:12:47 +0000
KerrCarolyn @teflgeek @Marisa_C #ELTChat - Could be - what type of HW do you set David? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:13:13 +0000
Marisa_C @FrancesEales true that no conclusive results - in my ppt too  #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:13:23 +0000
teflgeek I often feel quite conflicted about homework.  Half the time I only set it because I feel it's required of me #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:13:50 +0000
FrancesEales #eltchat I think gap-fills and right/wrong answer homework can save time in class and especially on computers motivates some sts. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:13:51 +0000
esolcourses @KerrCarolyn @Marisa_C IMO, homework is as good (or bad) as the teacher who sets it. Needs to be targeted & purposeful #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:14:43 +0000
theteacherjames To those who teach kids in the school system: Don't they already study enough? Isn't it too much to ask them to do it at home too? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:14:46 +0000
teflgeek @KerrCarolyn it varies.  depends on the class.  writing tasks, additional language practice activities #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:14:46 +0000
Marisa_C @teflgeek teachers often have to assign HW they dont reallly approve of - a major issue  #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:14:49 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @NailahRokic This is true. But isn't their decision? If it's essential it should be done in class, if it's not, it's optional? #ELtchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:14:50 +0000
thaisachristine RT @KerrCarolyn: @Marisa_C #ELTChat - i think exposure to English outside the classroom is very important and homework is one way - but is it a good way? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:15:00 +0000
NailahRokic I do believe in HW, if it complements/improves whats being taught in class, but that also doesnt work if T doesn't get s interested #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:15:09 +0000
jeeves_ RT @carldowse: Social Media Practices to Expect in 2013 http://t.co/upkEKRQz Takes a look at how companies will use social media #besig #iatefl #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:15:15 +0000
theteacherjames @teflgeek Do you think the sts expect it too? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:15:23 +0000
teflgeek @Marisa_C I think left to my own devices I would set homework about 10% of the time that I currently do. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:15:25 +0000
esolcourses RT @Marisa_C: May I share a ppt presentation i did at Istek schools recently http://t.co/a9G1YDoJ Homework or Busywork? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:16:11 +0000
teflgeek @theteacherjames but do they expect it because they have been indoctrinated in outmoded pedagogical routines and systems? #eltchat ;) Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:16:18 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @teflgeek Where are you David? You mean hwk is a cultural expectation? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:16:26 +0000
KerrCarolyn @theteacherjames #ELTChat - overworked kids = big problem - especially when HW is competing with their other Subjects. HW they want to do? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:16:43 +0000
NailahRokic I find self check a bit controversial, as I found a few S that wouldn't do once it wouldn't be asked HW from them #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:16:44 +0000
Marisa_C @teflgeek probably - and parents expect it too - but adults don't and won't as a rule  #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:16:49 +0000
KerrCarolyn @NailahRokic #ELTChat - what age were the SS? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:17:24 +0000
FrancesEales RT @theteacherjames:   Isn't it too much to ask them to do it at home? #eltchat Yes, maybe that's where computer game-like hwk can be fun,? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:17:25 +0000
FrancesEales RT @esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: May I share a ppt presentation i did at Istek schools recently http://t.co/a9G1YDoJ Homework or Busywork? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:17:42 +0000
David__Boughton RT @esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: May I share a ppt presentation i did at Istek schools recently http://t.co/a9G1YDoJ Homework or Busywork? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:18:08 +0000
KerrCarolyn @FrancesEales @theteacherjames #ELTChat - yes online HW is good, if they have access and permission. Do you do the exercises too? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:18:12 +0000
teflgeek @SophiaKhan4 portugal and no - not cultural - well, big culture or little culture?  It's part of the educational culture... #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:18:16 +0000
theteacherjames @teflgeek Yes, I think you are 100% correct. It's still something to deal with though. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:18:34 +0000
NailahRokic Sometimes parents see HW as a way also to follow what's going on in class and sometimes test teachers #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:19:09 +0000
Pamoja_PLC RT @Marisa_C: May I share a ppt presentation i did at Istek schools recently http://t.co/fTFpiRLl Homework or Busywork? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:19:15 +0000
teflgeek @theteacherjames Change their expectations?  Negotiate the homework framework with them? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:19:39 +0000
Marisa_C in a research  i did some yrs ago YLs declared their hatred of "Busywork? opently #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:19:44 +0000
David__Boughton @Marisa_C a lot of parents in Canada are starting to revolt against HW. Ruining precious family time. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:19:54 +0000
theteacherjames @KerrCarolyn If the teacher can't cover the essentials in lesson time, then maybe they're not teaching it correctly? Harsh? #ELTChat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:19:54 +0000
KerrCarolyn #ELTChat - so online games and (self corrected) Grammar exercises work - what else? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:19:55 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @teflgeek Do you think you would be happier if you were setting different types of hwk? #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:20:12 +0000
Marisa_C RT @David__Boughton: @Marisa_C a lot of parents in Canada are starting to revolt against HW. Ruining precious family time. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:20:34 +0000
esolcourses RT @theteacherjames: @KerrCarolyn If the teacher can't cover the essentials in lesson time, then maybe they're not teaching it correctly? Harsh? #ELTChat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:20:46 +0000
theteacherjames @KerrCarolyn @FrancesEales So what we really mean is to give homework by stealth, homework that doesn't seem like homework? #ELTChat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:21:04 +0000
Marisa_C @David__Boughton in greece parents clamour for more homework so they can have precious "parent-free time" :-)  #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:21:30 +0000
theteacherjames @teflgeek yes, very sound ideas, but I think unfortunately there are few teachers who would even consider an approach like this. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:21:50 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @KerrCarolyn Actually interesting only-poss-at-home research eg interview a grandparent about life when they were a child #Eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:21:50 +0000
KerrCarolyn @theteacherjames #ELTChat - If in a rush guilty of that. But I do like a noticing piece of HW to re-enforce or introduce a grammar point Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:21:52 +0000
David__Boughton So #eltchat, if we are looking at HW, what about the flipped class. Lessons at home online and HW in class? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:22:11 +0000
KerrCarolyn RT @SophiaKhan4: @KerrCarolyn Actually interesting only-poss-at-home research eg interview a grandparent about life when they were a child #Eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:22:15 +0000
FrancesEales RT @David__Boughton: @Marisa_C a lot of parents in Canada are starting to revolt against HW. Ruining precious family time. #eltchat Good pt. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:22:21 +0000
Marisa_C RT @theteacherjames: @KerrCarolyn @FrancesEales I like this 'HW by stealth"  #eltchat yes happens a   lot Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:22:52 +0000
teflgeek @SophiaKhan4 I would be happier if both I and the learners were convinced that the homework was useful and meaningful.... #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:22:59 +0000
theteacherjames @KerrCarolyn Yes, I think it's most useful as revision of classwork. That also makes it open ended and personal. #ELTChat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:23:10 +0000
KerrCarolyn @David__Boughton #ELTChat - can u elaborate? what kind of HW in class? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:23:29 +0000
esolcourses @theteacherjames @KerrCarolyn I'd say so. IME, contact time set is often insufficient to cover all important aspects of course #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:23:33 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @Marisa_C @David__Boughton That's interesting as here in Aus hwk can mean *more* parental involvement (supervising, helping etc) #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:23:41 +0000
FrancesEales RT @theteacherjames:So what we really mean is to give homework by stealth.  #ELTChat That's one way, I think. Not the only one, tho. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:23:45 +0000
Marisa_C sorry follks need to rebook my tweetdeck is not responding well #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:23:48 +0000
SophiaKhan4 RT @FrancesEales: RT @David__Boughton: @Marisa_C a lot of parents in Canada are starting to revolt against HW. Ruining precious family time. #eltchat Good pt. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:24:18 +0000
David__Boughton @Marisa_C LOL. That makes sense too! I think a lot of it here is parents getting frustrated with stressed out kids. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:24:43 +0000
theteacherjames @Marisa_C @KerrCarolyn @FrancesEales I sent an article to a st recently because I knew she liked the subject. She said... #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:24:45 +0000
FrancesEales #eltchat  In the UK it's v motivating to set speaking hwk where sts interview host families or other sts on lesson topic and report back. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:24:57 +0000
teflgeek @theteacherjames it does depend on context.  I'm in a private lang school where I get comparative freedom with these things. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:25:05 +0000
theteacherjames @Marisa_C @KerrCarolyn @FrancesEales ..."Thanks for the secret homework!" #busted #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:25:15 +0000
FrancesEales #eltchat They can make short films on their phones and bring them to class of parts of the interviews. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:25:37 +0000
Marisa_C #eltchat reboot Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:25:51 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @David__Boughton Not sure the flipped class applies to most *EFL* c/rooms - we have always been v. st-centred, learning thru doing #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:26:08 +0000
teflgeek having serious connection issues - tweets taking eons to upload.  Apols #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:26:15 +0000
theteacherjames @esolcourses @KerrCarolyn yes, in some situations it would be unfair. But for schools where the kids are there for years, maybe not #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:26:20 +0000
KerrCarolyn @esolcourses @theteacherjames #ELTChat - agree. Think some organizations view teacher as a synonym for 'miracle worker' or 'wizard' Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:26:40 +0000
theteacherjames @teflgeek Absolutely. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:26:48 +0000
David__Boughton @KerrCarolyn e.g. send a video on grammar point. Exercises in class. All the class time is for using the language not teaching it. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:27:38 +0000
esolcourses RT @David__Boughton: So #eltchat, if we are looking at HW, what about the flipped class. Lessons at home online and HW in class? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:28:06 +0000
KerrCarolyn @FrancesEales #ELTChat - the idea of speaking HW is great. Short films can work here too. Saw a remake of 'friends' by 4 french kids Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:28:38 +0000
BobK99 @David__Boughton @Marisa_C  #eltchat but is it 'precious family time' or time spent staring at TV? (Afraid I may have an old-fashiond view!? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:28:46 +0000
SophiaKhan4 RT @theteacherjames: @KerrCarolyn If the teacher can't cover the essentials in lesson time, then maybe they're not teaching it correctly? Harsh? #ELTChat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:28:51 +0000
FrancesEales #eltchat I've also set up voxopop group topics or vocaroo speaking tasks which sts practise and then record and send to me. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:28:51 +0000
teflgeek Help with homework - an elderly blog post from my collection...!  http://t.co/fp9RiGlI #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:29:05 +0000
Marisa_C RT @FrancesEales: #eltchat I've also set up voxopop group topics or vocaroo speaking tasks which sts practise & then record and send to me. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:29:17 +0000
teflgeek RT @FrancesEales: #eltchat I've also set up voxopop group topics or vocaroo speaking tasks which sts practise and then record and send to me. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:29:30 +0000
David__Boughton @SophiaKhan4 exactly! The whole class is about doing when the lesson/lecture is the HW. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:29:32 +0000
esolcourses @David__Boughton use a variation on that theme, i.e. online prep. at home and conversation based activities and games in class. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:30:01 +0000
Marisa_C @FrancesEales excellent idea - was just abt to mention voxopop  #eltchat @englishraven has a great group on voxopop - go listen pls Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:30:08 +0000
KerrCarolyn #ELTChat - what about reading? How does extensive reading work as HW? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:30:11 +0000
theteacherjames RT @teflgeek: Help with homework - an elderly blog post from my collection...!  http://t.co/fp9RiGlI #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:30:15 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @BobK99 @David__Boughton @Marisa_C but we can't know. I'd like to opt for precious. If not they probably aren't doing hwk anyway #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:30:22 +0000
esolcourses @David__Boughton works well as a rule, although of course you will always get some learners who don't do the online work that's set #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:30:54 +0000
NailahRokic @KerrCarolyn U'r taught all.ages but I was referring to adults #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:31:03 +0000
theteacherjames @KerrCarolyn I try to encourage all my students to read as much as possible. Find out what they like, lend them books etc. #ELTChat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:31:09 +0000
Marisa_C @KerrCarolyn may work if motivating pre-reading done in class to whet ss' appetite and stimulate curiosity  #ELTChat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:31:11 +0000
coolpcgame RT @FrancesEales: RT @theteacherjames:   Isn't it too much to ask them to do it at home? #eltchat Yes, maybe that's where computer game-like hwk can be fun,? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:31:40 +0000
theteacherjames @KerrCarolyn I also like to encourage extensive listening / watching (podcasts, radio, news, TV, films etc). Strictly for pleasure. #ELTChat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:32:03 +0000
jorgeguillen However, HW in some other parts of the world like here in Mexico, it's seen  as a traditional part of teaching. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:32:14 +0000
esolcourses RT @David__Boughton: @KerrCarolyn e.g. send a video on grammar point. Exercises in class. All the class time is for using the language not teaching it. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:32:31 +0000
David__Boughton @BobK99 at least Tv gives students chance to relax. Parents are sick of stressed out kids. 9 yr olds shouldn't act like 40 yr olds #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:32:32 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @David__Boughton I'm not sure if we agree or not :) I've never done a "lecture". But  this is diff on content-based courses #ELTchat. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:32:37 +0000
Marisa_C @esolcourses nice idea  #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:32:43 +0000
theteacherjames @jorgeguillen Tradition is used as an excuse for many outmoded practices. Do you think it could change? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:33:25 +0000
FrancesEales RT @KerrCarolyn: #ELTChat - what about reading? I always set readers (e.g. for a week) and we have a fdbck sess in class. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:33:25 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @theteacherjames @KerrCarolyn Agree. But I think students like some kind of T involvement/acknowledgement - how do u do this? #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:33:56 +0000
esolcourses Important point to bear in mind when setting work outside class is to vet mats. you direct learners to, & check they are accurate! #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:34:16 +0000
David__Boughton @esolcourses exactly. The exercises should be conversation based. All we do is skip the first P in PPP. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:34:25 +0000
KerrCarolyn @jorgeguillen #ELTChat - Is HW (i.e.outside class) is a vital part of LEARNING? If SS not motivated to do it, can learning happen? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:34:29 +0000
jeeves_ BE learners here say the same RT @David__Boughton Parents in Canada are starting to revolt against HW. Ruining precious family time #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:34:36 +0000
FrancesEales #eltchat. In IH London we had class boxes of readers - a sort of mini library, so they cd choose what they wanted each week. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:34:45 +0000
theteacherjames @SophiaKhan4 @KerrCarolyn In 1:1 classes, I read the book as well if possible, ask questions discuss story, characters etc. #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:35:12 +0000
David__Boughton @KerrCarolyn I think they should read for leisure, nothing more. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:35:28 +0000
Marisa_C @FrancesEales i ve used the 'book box' too and extensive reading does indeed help  #ELTChat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:35:34 +0000
KerrCarolyn #ELTChat - I ask L's 'how much time a week do you spend doing nothing' - answer is  'zero'. Next Q Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:35:47 +0000
theteacherjames @SophiaKhan4 @KerrCarolyn In groups I set up reading circles: http://t.co/hQSUD2yd #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:36:06 +0000
Marisa_C @David__Boughton if u haven't heard @skrashen  #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:36:10 +0000
FrancesEales #eltchat  Also motivating: find their passions: they bring in an article they've found; they give a talk; they teach the class something. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:36:18 +0000
theteacherjames RT @esolcourses: Important point to bear in mind when setting work outside class is to vet mats. you direct learners to, & check they are accurate! #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:36:28 +0000
David__Boughton @esolcourses  that's my current struggle with busy professionals. Barely time to show up to class. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:36:48 +0000
KerrCarolyn #ELTChat - 'How much time do you spend doing s'thing boring every week' - usually a lot (commute, housework, etc) BINGO there's your HW time Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:36:56 +0000
SophiaKhan4 RT @theteacherjames: @SophiaKhan4 @KerrCarolyn In groups I set up reading circles: http://t.co/hQSUD2yd #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:36:59 +0000
BobK99 @David__Boughton @SophiaKhan4  #eltchat But what happens  in a class where - say - 30% haven't watched the video? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:37:05 +0000
David__Boughton RT @theteacherjames: @KerrCarolyn I try to encourage all my students to read as much as possible. Find out what they like, lend them books etc. #ELTChat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:37:05 +0000
Marisa_C @David__Boughton if u haven't heard @skrashen talk in istanbul now is a good time - he agrees with the choice principle for L2 acq #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:37:23 +0000
esolcourses RT @BobK99: @David__Boughton @SophiaKhan4  #eltchat But what happens  in a class where - say - 30% haven't watched the video? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:37:31 +0000
KerrCarolyn @David__Boughton @esolcourses #ELTChat are you tempted to tell them to forget it? Aren't they wasting their time? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:37:31 +0000
theteacherjames @FrancesEales Such a great thing to do, I think. I tried to get my own language teacher to do it, with limited success. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:37:47 +0000
theteacherjames @FrancesEales Also works well with DVD's. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:37:59 +0000
theteacherjames RT @David__Boughton: @KerrCarolyn I think they should read for leisure, nothing more. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:38:15 +0000
jorgeguillen @theteacherjames Definitely, I also think HW has extremely good benefits when well planned and justified though. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:38:37 +0000
KerrCarolyn @David__Boughton #ELTChat - and do your learners read for leisure spontaneously? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:38:45 +0000
esolcourses @BobK99 @David__Boughton @SophiaKhan4 you put learners who haven't watched it into groups with the students who have, to discuss  #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:39:02 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @KerrCarolyn Agree. But differentiation needed: what you can do sitting on a train is diff to what you can do while mopping a floor #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:39:14 +0000
Marisa_C @esolcourses good question - perhaps an idea might be 4 class to do sth else while indiv Ss report to T in tutorial mode #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:39:14 +0000
David__Boughton @SophiaKhan4 at some point  I think every teacher has to explain. Put it on video for HW and get right to  interacting in class. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:39:19 +0000
theteacherjames @jorgeguillen I agree (depending on the context), but that planning & justifying bit is perhaps not considered enough? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:39:40 +0000
KerrCarolyn @esolcourses @BobK99 @David__Boughton @SophiaKhan4 #ELTChat - hmm - well can you predict what happens? can you interview other SS who saw it Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:39:44 +0000
theteacherjames RT @FrancesEales: #eltchat  Also motivating: find their passions: they bring in an article they've found; they give a talk; they teach the class something. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:39:48 +0000
esolcourses @esolcourses @BobK99 @David__Boughton @SophiaKhan4 in other words, start with a speaking and listening warm-up activity #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:39:51 +0000
BobK99 @David__Boughton @SophiaKhan4 #eltchat PS - That '30%' estimate was based on my experience at school 50-odd years ago. As a teacher ... 1/2 Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:39:55 +0000
FrancesEales RT @theteacherjames: @FrancesEales Also works well with DVD's. #eltchat  And with a fave Youtube clip. People love talking about these. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:40:09 +0000
KerrCarolyn @SophiaKhan4 #ELTChat - I find mopping to be my best listening time. ITunes U and an a microfibre cloth are my favorite combination Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:40:50 +0000
FrancesEales RT @Marisa_C: Where can I find Krashen talk, Marisa? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:40:59 +0000
Marisa_C @FrancesEales wait a min will find link #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:41:18 +0000
theteacherjames @David__Boughton @esolcourses That's the kind of situation where HW can't be justified. It's your job to deal with it, alas. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:41:46 +0000
BobK99 @David__Boughton @SophiaKhan4 #eltchat  ...2/2 I used to find a percentage much higher more likely. But I've done very little class teaching Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:41:55 +0000
esolcourses RT @Marisa_C @KerrCarolyn yep - you could do that also. I sometimes do a quick multiple choice quiz on hmwk as a warm-up, in groups #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:41:56 +0000
David__Boughton @Marisa_C  sorry I missed the idea about krashen. Elaborate?,I can't figure out how to show conversations on tweetdeck on my phone. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:42:10 +0000
babelannet RT @KerrCarolyn: @Marisa_C #ELTChat - i think exposure to English outside the classroom is very important and homework is one way - but is it a good way? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:42:10 +0000
theteacherjames @FrancesEales yes, and I think that's where social media can create a useful platform for sharing content between the sts. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:42:31 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @KerrCarolyn :) Sure there is some research there on how holding a microfibre cloth increases listening skills then #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:42:51 +0000
Marisa_C Here is link to @skrashen 's talk http://t.co/mHEKvGjv from the Wired in/out conf in Istanbul #ytuelt skip 1st few mins #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:43:17 +0000
FrancesEales #eltchat  Again in UK sts were asked to note bits of language they found interesting e.g on signs or on websites, and bring them to class. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:43:40 +0000
KerrCarolyn @SophiaKhan4 #ELTChat - I am the research. If my IQ and the shininess of my floors correlate then we have proof! Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:44:09 +0000
David__Boughton @BobK99 @SophiaKhan4 when they cant participate in class, they may start doing HW, but it's not perfect. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:44:16 +0000
FrancesEales RT @Marisa_C: @David__Boughton if u haven't heard @skrashen talk in istanbul now is a good time - he agrees with the choice principle for L2 acq #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:44:41 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @BobK99 @David__Boughton I don't think hwk with adults has changed much. & if only some sts do it, you can't depend on it as input #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:44:46 +0000
Marisa_C Some colleagues use a closed ning or similar - or school LMS for Ss to upload HW #eltchat Q is whether tech makes it mor useful #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:45:07 +0000
esolcourses RT @Marisa_C Here is link to @skrashen 's talk http://t.co/LQ6FkcxK from Wired in/out conf in Istanbul #ytuelt skip 1st few mins #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:45:10 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @KerrCarolyn I have really grubby floors...#ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:45:27 +0000
FrancesEales RT @theteacherjames: I think that's where social media can create a useful platform for sharing content between the sts. #eltchat Absolutely Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:45:37 +0000
KerrCarolyn @SophiaKhan4 @BobK99 @David__Boughton #ELTChat - recently asked BE SS to line up according to how easy they found an activity. Then…. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:46:10 +0000
David__Boughton @KerrCarolyn sure! Put newspapers in the kitchen and lounge and they are always reading them. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:46:14 +0000
esolcourses @Marisa_C  IMO tech can often make it more useful/meaningful, as it allows for instant feedback & collaboration #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:46:31 +0000
Marisa_C RT @esolcourses: @Marisa_C  IMO tech can often make it more useful/meaningful, as it allows for instant feedback & collaboration #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:46:43 +0000
David__Boughton RT @esolcourses: @BobK99 @David__Boughton @SophiaKhan4 you put learners who haven't watched it into groups with the students who have, to discuss  #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:46:43 +0000
KerrCarolyn @SophiaKhan4 @BobK99 @David__Boughton #ELTChat - I ask them to line up according to how often they did their HW - NO ONE MOVED Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:46:55 +0000
Marisa_C @esolcourses true but can have an LMS packed with busywork too  #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:47:05 +0000
FrancesEales RT @esolcourses: @Marisa_C  IMO tech  #eltchat Sorry, what's IMO tech? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:47:50 +0000
esolcourses RT @Marisa_C: @esolcourses true but can have an LMS packed with busywork too  #eltchat ] true also.  Important to be discerning Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:48:06 +0000
jorgeguillen @KerrCarolyn No, of course not. I was just pointing out the traditional role many parents who were educated like that, assign HW. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:48:20 +0000
David__Boughton RT @Marisa_C: Here is link to @skrashen 's talk http://t.co/mHEKvGjv from the Wired in/out conf in Istanbul #ytuelt skip 1st few mins #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:48:38 +0000
KerrCarolyn @jorgeguillen I have to confess I do think work on language outside of class is a vital part of Learning. #ELTChat. is it just me? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:50:10 +0000
SophiaKhan4 RT @KerrCarolyn: @jorgeguillen I have to confess I do think work on language outside of class is a vital part of Learning. #ELTChat. is it just me? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:51:55 +0000
baanderson RT @Marisa_C: Here is link to @skrashen 's talk http://t.co/mHEKvGjv from the Wired in/out conf in Istanbul #ytuelt skip 1st few mins #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:52:10 +0000
SophiaKhan4 @KerrCarolyn @jorgeguillen Those who really engage with the L2 in & out of class will do better. But we have no right to force ppl #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:53:10 +0000
David__Boughton Just saw on the news the Pope sent his first tweet. Will he be joining #eltchat next week? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:53:17 +0000
esolcourses Sorry folks - have to dash off early, but I've really enjoyed today's #eltchat - thanks for a stimulating and interesting discussion! Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:54:05 +0000
KerrCarolyn @SophiaKhan4 @jorgeguillen #ELTChat - Agree - no right to force and the obligation to encourage!!! Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:54:06 +0000
FrancesEales RT @KerrCarolyn: @jorgeguillen  #ELTChat As a learner, I know it's important to go over work - in order to retain. Can be done by hwk. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:54:13 +0000
theteacherjames @KerrCarolyn @jorgeguillen I agree, but what that work is is very open to question. #ELTChat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:54:50 +0000
EwaMalicka_ELT RT @esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: May I share a ppt presentation i did at Istek schools recently http://t.co/a9G1YDoJ Homework or Busywork? #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:55:17 +0000
SophiaKhan4 RT @KerrCarolyn: @SophiaKhan4 @jorgeguillen #ELTChat - Agree - no right to force and the obligation to encourage!!! Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:55:29 +0000
KerrCarolyn @SophiaKhan4 @BobK99 @David__Boughton #ELTChat - Yes HW needs a bit of a PR job - and we need to think about what HW works well Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:56:00 +0000
Marisa_C @esolcourses thanks for joining Sue always great to have you on #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:56:03 +0000
EwaMalicka_ELT RT @Marisa_C: Here is link to @skrashen 's talk http://t.co/mHEKvGjv from the Wired in/out conf in Istanbul #ytuelt skip 1st few mins #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:56:19 +0000
BobK99 MT @KerrCarolyn: @SophiaKhan4 @BobK99 @David__Boughton #ELTChat - ... asked BE SS to line up acc to how easy they found an activity. Then…. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:56:25 +0000
jorgeguillen @KerrCarolyn No, I'm sure more than one may agree with you. I think it is essential in many contexts and unavoidable in others. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:56:28 +0000
Marisa_C FOUR mins beofre the end of #ELTchat and be4 u all dash off too - who would like the honour of the summary writing pls? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:56:47 +0000
David__Boughton Thanks as always #eltchat. Time for work. Have a great week, and happy teaching! Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:57:40 +0000
theteacherjames RT @Marisa_C: FOUR mins beofre the end of #ELTchat and be4 u all dash off too - who would like the honour of the summary writing pls? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:57:48 +0000
BobK99 MT @KerrCarolyn: @SophiaKhan4 @BobK99 @David__Boughton #ELTChat - I ask them to line up acc to how often they did their HW - NO ONE MOVED >! Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:57:57 +0000
cybraryman1 My HW Debate page http://t.co/LzavAwRG You really want students to do extended learning on their own #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:58:29 +0000
FrancesEales #eltchat  In adult classes I often set different hwk for individuals depending on their needs/interests, e.g. listening practice or grammar. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:58:44 +0000
JALTConference RT @michaelegriffin: Gr8 #Auselt summary on chat about Improving Ss' speaking confidence http://t.co/waNfn7uW … #keltchat #eltchat HT @GuvenCagdas Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:58:46 +0000
SophiaKhan4 RT @FrancesEales: #eltchat  In adult classes I often set different hwk for individuals depending on their needs/interests, e.g. listening practice or grammar. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:59:19 +0000
EwaMalicka_ELT RT @FrancesEales: #eltchat  In the UK it's v motivating to set speaking hwk where sts interview host families or other sts on lesson topic and report back. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:59:34 +0000
FrancesEales #eltchat Wish I could, but two concerts, one party to organise, 40 exam papers to mark... over next four days! Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:00:00 +0000
KerrCarolyn @FrancesEales #ELTChat - different HW depending on L needs - sounds good - is it more effective? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:00:14 +0000
theteacherjames @FrancesEales Wow, good luck with that! #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:00:16 +0000
BobK99 MT @KerrCarolyn: @jorgeguillen ... I do think work on lang outside class is a vital part of Learning. #ELTChat...  just me? > Of course not! Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:00:28 +0000
jorgeguillen @KerrCarolyn @SophiaKhan4 Totally true! We must encourage and also try to let or SS know why we're doing what we're doing. #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:01:08 +0000
SophiaKhan4 Thanks #ELTchat and @Marisa_C - on hols next wk so no summarythis time, sorry...Did @ELTExperiences say he would or was that the other chat? Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:01:21 +0000
theteacherjames Anyone fancy a little homework and write the summary for us? It's a good revision opportunity! #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:01:39 +0000
Marisa_C @SophiaKhan4 i can't remember but thx for tip will ask him  #ELTchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:02:05 +0000
FrancesEales RT @KerrCarolyn: @FrancesEales #ELTChat - different HW depending on L needs -  is it more effective? Yes + they're more likely to do it. Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:02:32 +0000
KerrCarolyn @Marisa_C @SophiaKhan4 #ELTChat - that's okay, I can do it, just need to hope the dog doesn't eat it again Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:02:51 +0000
Marisa_C Thank you all for joining us and thanks th @KerrCarolyn for offering to do the summary - u did a grand job last time!!! #eltchat Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:03:25 +0000

 

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