| username |
time |
status |
| Shaunwilden |
12:02 PM |
Ok so how many of you are performers ;-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:02 PM |
RT @esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: We are almost there - ready to start #eltchat - present? ] yep :) |
| teflerinha |
12:03 PM |
#eltchat People often remark that having a degree in drama must b useful 4 teaching- bt I think it's more like directing than performing |
| esolcourses |
12:03 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Ok so how many of you are performers ;-) #eltchat ] mea culpa, from time to time :-) |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:03 PM |
Hello everyone, looking forward to another eltchat #eltchat |
| prese1 |
12:03 PM |
what do you mean by performers? #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:04 PM |
First you have to know your audience before deciding what role to play #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:04 PM |
@Shaunwilden nope, never managed it. Am a planner, and kind of hopes that counts with students #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:04 PM |
@esolcourses Well we all play to the crowd from time to time :-) #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:04 PM |
RT @teflerinha: #eltchat People often remark that having a degree in drama must b useful 4 teaching- bt I think it's more like directing |
| Shaunwilden |
12:04 PM |
How much is teaching a performance? implications of keeping up appearances to maintain student satisfaction. #eltchat |
| prese1 |
12:05 PM |
RT @teflerinha: @esolcourses Yes, there is an element- Need to put on my teacher 'hat'- but still think students should be centre stage ... |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:05 PM |
intriguing topic, how did it come up? #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:05 PM |
RT @teflgeek: First you have to know your audience before deciding what role to play #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:05 PM |
@esolcourses Yes, there is an element- Need to put on my teacher 'hat'- but still think students should be centre stage #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:05 PM |
Are we talking about performance teaching or something else? #eltchat |
| jo_cummins |
12:05 PM |
@Shaunwilden definitely - it's the adrenaline that keeps me going on days when I feel unwell, tired, etc #eltchat |
| jo_cummins |
12:06 PM |
@teflerinha I think that is true, you deinitely shouldn't be the star perfomer anyway! #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:06 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Are we talking about performance teaching or something else? #eltchat |
| Wiktor_K |
12:06 PM |
I've always been a performer in class - outside of work, I rarely acted the way I did in the classroom. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:06 PM |
Good afternoon to all from Athens, Greece #ELTchat |
| esolcourses |
12:06 PM |
@teflerinha yes, agree. I think having a drama degree or performance background helps with the confidence side of things, too #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:06 PM |
I'm very suspicious of this word 'performer'. Would never want to be one of those in the classroom, I think. #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:06 PM |
@jo_cummins @Shaunwilden #eltchat Can relate to adrenaline, but 4 me that's more about being in 'flow' |
| TeacherJanelle |
12:07 PM |
RT @ShellTerrell: TESOL Webinar – SCANdalous Learning with Quick Response Codes http://t.co/2ESXs5gy #esl #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:07 PM |
@esolcourses Yes, agreed, but biggest crossover for me from drama degree is accepting criticism on my 'performance'. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:07 PM |
@theteacherjames i agree #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:07 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: I'm very suspicious of this word 'performer'. Would never want to be one of those in the classroom, I think. #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:07 PM |
@theteacherjames agree - not so much performance, but putting your "game face" on #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:08 PM |
RT @Julian_LEnfant: @Shaunwilden How about conductor? :) #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:08 PM |
@theteacherjames might help to think of it in terms of presentation skills and classroom management instead then, perhaps? #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:08 PM |
RT @SophiaKhan4: @theteacherjames Yes different to be a performer and to simply have a 'teaching personality' separate from your persona ... |
| teflerinha |
12:08 PM |
@jo_cummins Yes, not an Alan Bennett monologue ;) #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:08 PM |
Are we talking "performance" as entertainment value in the classroom? #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:08 PM |
@theteacherjames Yes different to be a performer and to simply have a 'teaching personality' separate from your personal one #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:09 PM |
@teflerinha yes, there is an element of that to it, I suppose. Having audience participation skills as well perhaps, too? #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:09 PM |
@theteacherjames might help to think of it in terms of presentation skills and classroom management instead then, perhaps? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:09 PM |
@OUPELTGlobal Not sure - what the topic setter meant #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:09 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Julian_LEnfant #eltchat Prefer director to conductor bcos lot of director's work is offstage #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:09 PM |
RT @teflgeek: @theteacherjames agree - not so much performance, but putting your "game face" on #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:10 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @teflgeek I think the danger comes when performance becomes more important than teaching. #eltchat ] goo dpoint, James |
| teflerinha |
12:10 PM |
@esolcourses Yes, you need to be able to communicate with a group, which is a difficult skill in itself #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:10 PM |
@Shaunwilden @OUPELTGlobal "Imposter syndrome" - feeling like you are a fake and not a "real teacher", never qualified enough? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:10 PM |
@teflgeek I think the danger comes when performance becomes more important than teaching. #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:10 PM |
RT @teflerinha: @Shaunwilden @Julian_LEnfant #eltchat Prefer director to conductor bcos lot of director's work is offstage #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:10 PM |
@teflerinha @Julian_LEnfant though a conductor does bring people in, allows instruments to be highlighted etc #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:11 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @theteacherjames @teflgeek Gosh agreeing again - yes those that entertain s/times miss the teaching point #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:11 PM |
@SophiaKhan4 I'm not sure my teaching personality is different than my personal one. I think I'm a better teacher for being myself. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:11 PM |
@theteacherjames @teflgeek Gosh agreeing again - yes those that entertain s/times miss the teaching point #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:11 PM |
@Shaunwilden I am confused as well - everyone is talking abt performing in class but is it abt keeping up performances ????? #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:11 PM |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: Are we talking "performance" as entertainment value in the classroom? #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:11 PM |
@theteacherjames when it becomes style over substance #eltchat |
| Wiktor_K |
12:11 PM |
perform always meant "function" for me - I did/said things with an effect in mind. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:12 PM |
Like looking professional - dress code, distance or not to Ss?? Not sure #ELTchat is the topic setter here to explain please? |
| esolcourses |
12:12 PM |
@theteacherjames @teflgeek delivering an entertaining, fun lesson doesn't necessarily equate to the students learning very much... #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:12 PM |
@theteacherjames I'm more "serious and professional" than I feel like I am in real life (bumbling idiot) #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:12 PM |
@esolcourses That would be a positive spin on it, yes. I think performance could get in the way of them though. #eltchat |
| cybraryman1 |
12:12 PM |
All the world's a stage, |
| Shaunwilden |
12:12 PM |
@Marisa_C So how do you interpret it? #eltchat |
| RichGresswell |
12:13 PM |
The man who sold the world by #Nirvana http://t.co/v9uYnQuN #elt #eltchat #esl #esol #literacy #subtitles |
| Wiktor_K |
12:13 PM |
@cybraryman1 "...and one man in his time plays many parts." Hear, hear! #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:13 PM |
@teflgeek Exactly. #eltchat |
| RichGresswell |
12:14 PM |
sorry Shaun - just noticed the time - apologies #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:14 PM |
@Shaunwilden @OUPELTGlobal Oops sorry wrong topic! Some crossover perhaps! #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:14 PM |
@theteacherjames @SophiaKhan4 #eltchat Not different, but I'm more confident in classroom w/ ls than I am with gps of people in real life |
| prese1 |
12:14 PM |
There are days I feel gloomy but try to hide it. That's performing! #eltchat |
| Julian_LEnfant |
12:14 PM |
#ELTchat We can train & develop a teacher's teaching ability/knowledge, but coaxing personality out of someone is soooo hard. |
| Shaunwilden |
12:14 PM |
@RichGresswell Please only tweet stuff relevant to #eltchat during chat times |
| Shaunwilden |
12:14 PM |
@Marisa_C Oh i never saw it that way but yes i guess that comes into it as well #eltchat |
| akhssass |
12:15 PM |
@ELTchat hello |
| teflerinha |
12:15 PM |
@jo_cummins That there's no work in theatre ? ;) #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:15 PM |
RT @prese1: There are days I feel gloomy but try to hide it. That's performing! #eltchat |
| prese1 |
12:15 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Another way: 'performance teaching' which suggests T at centre stage prancing around being exciting vs quiet, laid back # ... |
| esolcourses |
12:15 PM |
@theteacherjames depends on how you view it, I suppose. using performance skills to motivate & interest s's can be productive...#eltchat |
| jo_cummins |
12:15 PM |
there does seem to be a LOT of people with a drama backgound in teaching - what does that say? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:15 PM |
@prese1 Aye we always have to paint the smile on :-) #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:15 PM |
@esolcourses @Shaunwilden @teflgeek The idea that everyone must have fun & I always have to be 'engaging' seems a distraction to me #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:15 PM |
Another way: 'performance teaching' which suggests T at centre stage prancing around being exciting vs quiet, laid back #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:16 PM |
RT @teflgeek: My interpretation of the question is balancing learner needs, wants and expectations. #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:16 PM |
@theteacherjames ...however, it's important not to lose sight of the fact that lesson focus shd B what s's want/need, & are doing #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:16 PM |
@theteacherjames and unnecessary pressure. Difficult to be entertaining to all, all the time #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:16 PM |
@theteacherjames @esolcourses @Shaunwilden @teflgeek #eltchat Yes, engaging, surely doesn't have to mean party time? |
| teflgeek |
12:16 PM |
My interpretation of the question is balancing learner needs, wants and expectations. #eltchat |
| cybraryman1 |
12:16 PM |
My Passion Based Learning and Teaching page http://t.co/cy54AjmV #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:16 PM |
RT @esolcourses: @theteacherjames @teflgeek delivering an entertaining, fun lesson doesn't necessarily equate to the students learning v ... |
| Marisa_C |
12:16 PM |
Or how do we balance performance teaching with quiet laid back learner-centred moments? #ELTchat - sorry all am wondering myself |
| theteacherjames |
12:16 PM |
@SophiaKhan4 Well if it works for you, it's fine. I guess what I'm trying to get at is honesty & performance suggests the opposite. #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:17 PM |
@Julian_LEnfant Agreed. Much easier the other way round- but it can help novice teachers to put on persona (even if not 'honest') #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:17 PM |
@teflerinha @theteacherjames depends context though surely? Private lang young learner lessons different from post-grad EAP #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:17 PM |
@esolcourses Oh yes, I'm not against drama techniques for example, it's specifically this idea of performance that bothers me. #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:17 PM |
RT @teflerinha: @theteacherjames @esolcourses @Shaunwilden @teflgeek #eltchat Yes, engaging, surely doesn't have to mean party time? ] agree |
| Shaunwilden |
12:18 PM |
@theteacherjames I agree with the 'fun' part - it's a word that always winds me up in observations! #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:18 PM |
@teflerinha @esolcourses @Shaunwilden @teflgeek Absolutely, sts can be engaged in quiet, hard work! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:19 PM |
@teflgeek Fine but when a teacher says ok lets do this cos its fun - I always say (under my breath) fun for whom #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:19 PM |
@OUPELTGlobal Unrealistic and unnecessary. #eltchat |
| prese1 |
12:19 PM |
RT @teflgeek: @kerrileebarrett @Shaunwilden students come to our school precisely because we are "more fun" than the competition / state ... |
| teflgeek |
12:19 PM |
@kerrileebarrett @Shaunwilden students come to our school precisely because we are "more fun" than the competition / state school #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:20 PM |
@Shaunwilden true, fun is subjective, and you always hope the learners learn something as well as having fun #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:20 PM |
@teflgeek @teflerinha Context is always king in our business! Drama can be useful, but not mandatory. #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:20 PM |
@theteacherjames as a drama grad maybe I'm coming at this from another angle, but many ppl I know adopt a 'teacher persona'... #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:20 PM |
@teflgeek I understand this, but I always felt it was pressure to "perform" rather than teach #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:21 PM |
@Shaunwilden I'm okay with 'motivating' or 'enagaging', but 'fun'? Only in small doses! #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:21 PM |
RT @teflgeek: @Shaunwilden true, fun is subjective, and you always hope the learners learn something as well as having fun #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:21 PM |
@esolcourses @theteacherjames Yes, I think at least when u start teaching a 'persona' can be very helpful. Fake it til you make it? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:21 PM |
RT @jo_cummins: @Shaunwilden @theteacherjames not about fun so much as setting a tone #eltchat |
| Wiktor_K |
12:21 PM |
Fun is 1 thing, convention another. Nobody is born an ELT teacher / student / DoS - all these roles meet in school and all perform. #eltchat |
| jo_cummins |
12:21 PM |
@Shaunwilden @theteacherjames not about fun so much as setting a tone #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:21 PM |
@theteacherjames Think some performer teachers are still honest - big (annoying?) personalities that sweep all sts along with them #ELTchat |
| kevchanwow |
12:21 PM |
As teachers we serve as the defacto communicative model for our students. That's going to require putting on a hat now and then. #ELTchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:22 PM |
@teflerinha @esolcourses @theteacherjames Yes. Feel like I am still faking it 17 years on but still. #Eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:22 PM |
@mrmohammedsheha Haha, way to sell the drill :-) #eltchat |
| Julian_LEnfant |
12:22 PM |
#ELTchat Don't we also play to our strengths? I was possibly more fun as a younger inexperienced teacher but have more substance now. |
| teflgeek |
12:22 PM |
@OUPELTGlobal I think I felt that in China a bit - less so in Europe. #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:22 PM |
@kevchanwow You'd know all about putting on hats ... ;) #eltchat |
| mrmohammedsheha |
12:22 PM |
@Shaunwilden @teflgeek I saw a vid 4 a teacher who was doing a drill&he said well I know it's boring but let's try one more time!!! #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:22 PM |
@theteacherjames as a means of keeping a professional distance, etc... there are other professions (i.e. barristers) do similarly #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:23 PM |
@SophiaKhan4 I agree, but then it's not really a performance, that's what they are really like! #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:23 PM |
@Julian_LEnfant So by implication then a newish teacher plays on the fun factor? #eltchat |
| ESLBarry |
12:23 PM |
@kevchanwow Says the man in the hat. #ELTChat |
| prese1 |
12:23 PM |
RT @esolcourses: @teflerinha @theteacherjames LOL! Not necessarily fake it, but maybe project a larger than life, more confident version ... |
| teflerinha |
12:23 PM |
RT @esolcourses: @teflerinha @theteacherjames LOL! Not necessarily fake it, but maybe project a larger than life, more confident version ... |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:23 PM |
@Julian_LEnfant an interesting point - fun as opposed to substance #eltchat |
| Yohimar |
12:23 PM |
@esolcourses @teflerinha @theteacherjames @Shaunwilden Todays topic is about performance teaching but what is it? I wonder #ELTchat |
| esolcourses |
12:23 PM |
@teflerinha @theteacherjames LOL! Not necessarily fake it, but maybe project a larger than life, more confident version of self? #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:23 PM |
@esolcourses I think that can be useful, but I think it has to be honest & based on the real person to enable true rapport. #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:23 PM |
@mrmohammedsheha always fatal to label your activities boring! #eltchat but interesting question - how much fun is just dressing stuff up? |
| kevchanwow |
12:24 PM |
Being warm & positive in class. it can mean being less than 100% sincere. But being 100% professional requires it at times #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
12:24 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Julian_LEnfant I know I did! Back in the day... #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:24 PM |
@jo_cummins @esolcourses @theteacherjames Me too :) #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:24 PM |
RT @theteacherjames I think that can be useful, but I think it has to be honest & based on the real person to enable true rapport. #eltchat |
| jo_cummins |
12:24 PM |
@teflerinha @esolcourses @theteacherjames my teaching 'persona' is just me on a good day! I'm more confident in class than outside #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:25 PM |
@teflerinha Yes and often seems to be what they actually want looking at feedback . #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:25 PM |
@jo_cummins @teflerinha @theteacherjames same here :) & If I'm having a bad day or feeling ill, it's still business as usual ... :) #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:25 PM |
is a teaching performance just shedding / putting aside the detritus of the day so it doesn't negatively affect your classes? #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:25 PM |
#eltchat But some teachers do very well just on fun and personality- even if they aren't teaching much, very popular w/ ss #gofigure |
| prese1 |
12:25 PM |
It would be difficult for an quiet person to be an extrovert in class. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:25 PM |
@jo_cummins @teflerinha @esolcourses @theteacherjames me too :-). #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:26 PM |
@prese1 Quiet teachers often get ss to talk a lot more and participate more #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:26 PM |
RT @teflgeek: is a teaching perform just shedding / putting aside detritus of the day so it doesn't negatively affect your classes? #eltchat |
| prese1 |
12:26 PM |
RT @teflerinha: @kevchanwow Agree- but I also, seriously, believe that if you act warm and positive mostly that's how you end up really ... |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:26 PM |
@theteacherjames Er - yes. You can tell I haven't quite got a handle on this topic :) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:26 PM |
RT @prese1: It would be difficult for an quiet person to be an extrovert in class. #eltchat > agree - and it's not really needed; |
| teflgeek |
12:26 PM |
@teflerinha I hate observing teachers like that.... #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:26 PM |
@kevchanwow Agree- but I also, seriously, believe that if you act warm and positive mostly that's how you end up really feeling #eltchat |
| mrmohammedsheha |
12:26 PM |
@teflgeek now I train trainees who'll work 4 a company.They care abt the performance objectives.Sometimes there's no fun at all #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:26 PM |
RT @teflgeek: is a teaching performance just shedding / putting aside detritus of the day so it doesn't negatively effect classes? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:26 PM |
@esolcourses @teflerinha @SophiaKhan4 I like the idea of a projection of oneself because it's honest & not fake. #ELTchat |
| teflerinha |
12:27 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @prese1 Quiet teachers often get ss to talk a lot more and participate more #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:27 PM |
@mrmohammedsheha you tried using lesson menus to signpost lesson goals etc? #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:27 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @esolcourses @teflerinha @SophiaKhan4 I like the idea of a projection of oneself because it's honest & not fake ... |
| teflerinha |
12:27 PM |
@teflgeek Me too. Very resistant to FB because the students love them #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:27 PM |
RT @teflgeek: is a teaching performance just shedding / putting aside detritus of the day so it doesn't negatively effect classes? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:27 PM |
@Julian_LEnfant It was a little sweeping yes, sorry :-) . #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:27 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @prese1 Quiet teachers often get ss to talk a lot more and participate more #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:27 PM |
@SophiaKhan4 That's okay, we're all trying to figure it out! #eltchat |
| kevchanwow |
12:28 PM |
@teflerinha Cognitive dissonance. Our feelings tend to align w/ our behaviors. maybe a performer teacher is in the act of becoming #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:28 PM |
RT @teflerinha: #eltchat some teachers do very well just on fun & personality- even if they aren't teaching much, v.popular w/ ss #gofigure |
| pysproblem81 |
12:28 PM |
#eltchat - think managing 'performance' is a useful skill for a teacher - doesn't mean it has to be full-on all the time though... |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:28 PM |
RT @teflerinha: RT @Marisa_C: @prese1 Quiet teachers often get ss to talk a lot more and participate more #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:28 PM |
@teflgeek I think probably this is what this is all about Peter - am having such a problem right now - T abt to be observed :-( #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:28 PM |
@teflerinha and the full support of the school director because of that #bumsonseats #eltchat |
| prese1 |
12:28 PM |
@Marisa_C very true. We don't want to be centre stage #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:29 PM |
RT @yearinthelifeof: @teflerinha @teflgeek There's a difference between being a good teacher and being a good laugh #eltchat |
| steve4eld |
12:29 PM |
RT @teflerinha: #eltchat But some teachers do very well just on fun and personality- even if they aren't teaching much, very popular w/ ... |
| jo_cummins |
12:29 PM |
@teflgeek yep, that's how I see it! :) |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:29 PM |
Annual target setting meeting over, now time to finally join #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:29 PM |
@kevchanwow Yes! Exactly! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:29 PM |
RT @pysproblem81: #eltchat - think managing 'performance' is a useful skill for a teacher - doesn't mean it has to be full-on all the time |
| teflerinha |
12:29 PM |
RT @kevchanwow: @teflerinha Cognitive dissonance. Our feelings tend to align w/ our behaviors. maybe a performer teacher is in the act o ... |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:29 PM |
@teflgeek @teflerinha and glowing evaluations #eltchat |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:29 PM |
@teflerinha @teflgeek There's a difference between being a good teacher and being a good laugh #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:30 PM |
RT @pysproblem81: #eltchat - think managing 'performance' is a useful skill - doesn't mean it has to be full-on all the time tho.. |
| teflerinha |
12:30 PM |
@Julian_LEnfant #eltchat That is truly horrific! |
| Shaunwilden |
12:30 PM |
@Julian_LEnfant Geees scary . #eltchat |
| Julian_LEnfant |
12:30 PM |
But just to prove I haven't lost my fun factor, this is my Halloween costume at work today. :) #eltchat http://t.co/lUusPiRH |
| teflgeek |
12:30 PM |
@yearinthelifeof absolutely! #eltchat |
| akhssass |
12:30 PM |
@ELTchat you can know that by using assessment for learning techniques |
| pysproblem81 |
12:30 PM |
#eltchat - Danger of teacher who likes sound of their own voice too much.. |
| theteacherjames |
12:31 PM |
@esolcourses @jo_cummins @teflerinha Me too, but that's not a performance, it's being in a place where I belong! #ELTchat |
| teflerinha |
12:31 PM |
RT @kevchanwow: @Marisa_C @prese1 very much agree. When I keep my mouth shut, but keep my heart open, students rush to fill the space wi ... |
| Shaunwilden |
12:31 PM |
RT @pysproblem81: #eltchat - Danger of teacher who likes sound of their own voice too much.. - which is tonight's topic i think |
| Marisa_C |
12:31 PM |
@kevchanwow possibly why teaching can be seen to have a healing effect ? :-) #eltchat |
| kevchanwow |
12:31 PM |
@Marisa_C @prese1 very much agree. When I keep my mouth shut, but keep my heart open, students rush to fill the space with language #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:31 PM |
@yearinthelifeof @teflerinha @teflgeek yes - some sts see this & some don't though.Many not satisfied with a hardworking 'boring' T #eltchat |
| jo_cummins |
12:31 PM |
@yearinthelifeof @teflerinha @teflgeek sadly student's don't always notice this difference! #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:31 PM |
A good teacher needs to perform to a certain degree but I hope teaching goes beyond that #eltchat |
| mrmohammedsheha |
12:31 PM |
@esolcourses @teflerinha Those Popular teacher dt follow objectives and they put other teachers in unfair comparisons in S's mind! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:32 PM |
@pysproblem81 Yes i think there is a nice overlap . #eltchat |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:32 PM |
@teflerinha @teflgeek Students can spot the difference as well if not better than your average DoS #ELTchat (used 'average' in every sense) |
| pysproblem81 |
12:32 PM |
@Shaunwilden I think one topic can lead to the other quite easily! #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:32 PM |
Teacher as a performer - useful analysis : http://t.co/WauBjZOA #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:32 PM |
@SophiaKhan4 @yearinthelifeof @teflerinha I see no problem in telling learners I'm having a tough day - they know what to expect! #eltchat |
| muranava |
12:32 PM |
as long as keep learning objective in mind "performance", "being a gd laugh" tweaks/hacks useful #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:32 PM |
@Shaunwilden @pysproblem81 Duly noted ;) #eltchat |
| mrmohammedsheha |
12:33 PM |
RT @muranava: as long as keep learning objective in mind "performance", "being a gd laugh" tweaks/hacks useful #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:33 PM |
@pysproblem81 i am for honesty . #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:33 PM |
@teflgeek @SophiaKhan4 @yearinthelifeof To a degree, but ideally we r a 'clear channel' for learning & our stuff can get in the way #eltchat |
| pysproblem81 |
12:33 PM |
#eltchat Does anyone think straight-up honesty is essential, positive or risky? |
| Shaunwilden |
12:34 PM |
@teflerinha a form of attack? #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:34 PM |
@yearinthelifeof @teflerinha true, but a lot of students (teens) just want an easy life and like avoiding the real work #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:34 PM |
@pysproblem81 #eltchat That depends on reasons for 'honesty' w/ stds. Sometimes it's essential, sometimes it's a form of attack. |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:34 PM |
RT @teflerinha: #eltchat But some teachers do very well just on fun and personality- even if they aren't teaching much, very popular w/ ... |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:34 PM |
RT @SophiaKhan4: @yearinthelifeof @teflerinha @teflgeek yes - some sts see this & some don't though.Many not satisfied with a hardwo ... |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:34 PM |
@pysproblem81 certainly preferable, I would say #eltchat |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:34 PM |
@teflgeek @SophiaKhan4 @teflerinha There's a definite benefit to this - treat them like humans and the will reciprocate #ELTchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:35 PM |
@teflgeek yes, but are they learning? #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:35 PM |
@Shaunwilden Being honest with students may just be you taking your stuff out on them..#eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:35 PM |
RT @yearinthelifeof: @teflgeek @SophiaKhan4 @teflerinha There's a definite benefit to this - treat them like humans and the will recipro ... |
| teflgeek |
12:35 PM |
RT @yearinthelifeof: @teflgeek @SophiaKhan4 @teflerinha - treat them like humans and the will reciprocate #ELTchat that's the theory! |
| Shaunwilden |
12:36 PM |
@teflerinha Aha got yer. I meant honesty more as being oneself, admitting when i dont know sth etc etc #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:36 PM |
@teflerinha again - depends on how you handle it / what you say. Most students will be sympathetic #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:37 PM |
@teflerinha hence the performance? #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:37 PM |
@teflerinha @Shaunwilden Personally I think some distance is good, & sometimes I can't & shouldn't say to sts exactly what I think #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:37 PM |
@esolcourses @jo_cummins @teflerinha maybe we should be viewing this in terms of 'performance skills' rather than performing then? #eltchat |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:37 PM |
@teflgeek @teflerinha Teacher: 'My dog died' Students: 'Let's play a game' #ELTChat |
| teflerinha |
12:37 PM |
@teflgeek Yes, of course. I don't think we should b robots- just that it's better not 2 let stuff get in the way of the interaction #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:37 PM |
@OUPELTGlobal not always - that's my point. I've observed classes where 40% of the class didn't say a thing all lesson. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:38 PM |
RT @esolcourses @teflerinha maybe we should be viewing this in terms of 'performance skills' rather than performing then? #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:38 PM |
@esolcourses @jo_cummins @teflerinha i.e. just another string to our bow that we can pull out as and when needed? #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:38 PM |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat That's the essential part of being honest ;) Agree, putting up a facade isn't good. |
| EBEFL |
12:38 PM |
@teflerinha I did a bit of drama and it comes in useful at times...voice, posture how to stand etc #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:39 PM |
Maybe performing should be another tool teachers have to reach their students - perform AND teach rather than OR #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:39 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @EBEFL agreed it think knowing how to use your voice is imp in teaching #eltchat > agreed |
| Marisa_C |
12:39 PM |
RT @EBEFL: @teflerinha I did a bit of drama and it comes in useful at times...voice, posture how to stand etc #eltchat > Very useful skill |
| teflerinha |
12:39 PM |
@teflgeek #eltchat Getting very esoteric.. but not so much performance as being really 'real'- not all the surface 'noise' that gets in way. |
| esolcourses |
12:39 PM |
RT @EBEFL: @teflerinha I did a bit of drama and it comes in useful at times...voice, posture how to stand etc #eltchat ] agree |
| Shaunwilden |
12:39 PM |
@EBEFL agreed it think knowing how to use your voice is imp in teaching #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:40 PM |
@esolcourses @jo_cummins #eltchat Lost the thread of this one..but sure you're right ! |
| Marisa_C |
12:40 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @EBEFL agreed it think knowing how to use your voice is imp in teaching #eltchat > Yes! |
| akhssass |
12:40 PM |
@ELTchat I dont know how to get to elt chat |
| teflgeek |
12:40 PM |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: Maybe performing should be another tool teachers have to reach their students - perform AND teach rather than OR #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:40 PM |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: Maybe performing should be another tool teachers have to reach their students - perform AND teach rather than OR #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:41 PM |
@teflerinha So the question is how much of your true self do you take into the classroom? #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:41 PM |
@teflerinha even more esoteric - isn't a performance pretending to be other than you are? #eltchat |
| OUPELTGlobal |
12:41 PM |
Will have to read the summary to see how this chat ends up. Off to a lecture on burning down parliament #eltchat |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:41 PM |
@Marisa_C @esolcourses @teflerinha I like the idea of 'performance skills' #ELTchat |
| EBEFL |
12:41 PM |
@Marisa_C @teflerinha hahaha #eltchat |
| kerrileebarrett |
12:41 PM |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @EBEFL agreed it think knowing how to use your voice is imp in teaching #eltchat > also agreed |
| mrmohammedsheha |
12:41 PM |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: Maybe performing should be another tool teachers have to reach their students - perform AND teach rather than OR #eltchat |
| akhssass |
12:42 PM |
@ELTchat ABCD cards |
| akhssass |
12:43 PM |
@ELTchat Basketball discussion |
| teflgeek |
12:43 PM |
@prese1 @teflerinha 100%....! Most of the time! #eltchat |
| mrmohammedsheha |
12:43 PM |
#Eltchat I believe teacher shd offer advice,guide,entertain&fulfill teaching objectives! |
| kevchanwow |
12:43 PM |
It depends on the students. Sometimes they just want to hear a story. And meeting that need w/ one heck of a story can be very +. #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:43 PM |
Sometimes just looking the part can be important in maintaining st satisfaction, eg wearing a suit when business teaching #eltchat |
| prese1 |
12:43 PM |
@teflgeek @teflerinha what % of the real "you" do you take to class? #eltchat |
| Edu_Trends |
12:43 PM |
My Passion Based Learning and Teaching page #eltchat http://t.co/Ye1DDlqQ |
| Marisa_C |
12:43 PM |
RT @teflgeek: @teflerinha So the question is how much of your true self do you take into the classroom? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:44 PM |
RT @SophiaKhan4: Smtms just looking the part can be important in maintaining st satisfaction, eg wearing a suit inbusiness teaching #eltchat |
| pysproblem81 |
12:44 PM |
@prese1 @teflgeek @teflerinha #eltchat - I'd guess that's pretty context dependent - it depends on the group, etc... #mustrememberhashtag |
| akhssass |
12:44 PM |
@ELTchat Ask all students to vote on a question you put to the class with two or more possible answers. |
| teflerinha |
12:45 PM |
@teflgeek Yes, it is. Ideally we don't perform, we r who we are, but that's actually v hard as anxieties, irritation etc get in way.#eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:45 PM |
RT @teflgeek: @teflerinha So the question is how much of your true self do you take into the classroom? #eltchat |
| akhssass |
12:45 PM |
@ELTchat enterance tickets and mini white boards |
| Shaunwilden |
12:45 PM |
@mrmohammedsheha nicely out and I think agreeing with @OUPELTGlobal who said performance is another tool for us to use? #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:45 PM |
@yearinthelifeof @Marisa_C @teflerinha me too Adam - I suspect we all draw on them sometimes whether consciously aware of it or not #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:45 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @teflgeek I bring everything, I just don't give everything to every student. Depends on them. #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:45 PM |
@teflgeek I bring everything, I just don't give everything to every student. Depends on them. #eltchat |
| akhssass |
12:45 PM |
@ELTchat Only let students raise their hands if they have a question to ask. Do not let students call out. Use a random method |
| teflerinha |
12:46 PM |
@teflgeek So sometimes we might need to act a certain way to get there- like physically smiling actually makes people feel happier #eltchat |
| akhssass |
12:46 PM |
@ELTchat if you live in a developed country you can use clickers |
| esolcourses |
12:46 PM |
@yearinthelifeof @Marisa_C @teflerinha at the most basic level, I suppose it's the ability to command attention & get s's to listen #eltchat |
| muranava |
12:46 PM |
what would make up a performance skill set? |
| Marisa_C |
12:46 PM |
Most seem to agree we have to look the part and act the part? Balancing performance T-ing with quiet S-centred time? #ELTchat |
| teflerinha |
12:47 PM |
@theteacherjames @teflgeek Yes, I'd say I try to bring everything, but it's definitely a mutual process w ss #eltchat |
| akhssass |
12:47 PM |
@ELTchat we should allow students to think. time for reflection |
| esolcourses |
12:47 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @teflgeek: @teflerinha So the question is how much of your true self do you take into the classroom? #eltchat |
| prese1 |
12:47 PM |
I take 98% and leave the negative feelings outside #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:48 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Most seem to agree we have to look the part and act the part? Balancing performance T-ing with quiet S-centred time? #ELTchat |
| jo_cummins |
12:48 PM |
@teflerinha @teflgeek So true! Often I'll go into class feeling a bit rubbish but put a brave face on and come out feeling better #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:48 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: #eltchat I think it's also to do with maintaining a positive energy atmosphere of good will Ss respond to |
| prese1 |
12:48 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @esolcourses @teflerinha #eltchat I think it's also to do with maintaining a positive energy atmosphere of good will Ss r ... |
| theteacherjames |
12:48 PM |
@teflerinha Yes, what I give is very much in balance to what they give me. different sts expect different things. #eltchat |
| akhssass |
12:48 PM |
@ELTchat Phone-a-friend |
| ELT_Osama_Ali |
12:48 PM |
I consider it stage performance and students are audience. you get applause when you perform well #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:48 PM |
@Julian_LEnfant @teflerinha I feel as though this should end with a resounding faux-spartan cry of "WE ARE TEACHERS!" #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:48 PM |
@esolcourses @teflerinha #eltchat I think it's also to do with maintaining a positive energy atmosphere of good will Ss respond to |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:48 PM |
RT @teflerinha: @teflgeek So sometimes we might need to act a certain way to get there- like physically smiling actually makes people fe ... |
| prese1 |
12:48 PM |
I'm not good at maths...lol #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:49 PM |
Different Ts achieve gd rapport and good will in diff ways; being unruffled and cool/laid back also important #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
12:49 PM |
@jo_cummins @teflerinha Energy flows in more than one direction. I think we're more responsible for directing that flow. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:49 PM |
@ELT_Osama_Ali You get applause from your sts? #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:50 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Marisa_C: #eltchat I think it's also to do with maintaining a positive energy atmosphere of good will Ss respond to |
| teflerinha |
12:50 PM |
@teflgeek @jo_cummins Yes, agreed. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:50 PM |
@Marisa_C cool and laid back I cant see that ever being me :-) #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:50 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @esolcourses @teflerinha #eltchat I think it's also to do with maintaining a positive energy atmosphere of good will Ss r ... |
| prese1 |
12:50 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Different Ts achieve gd rapport and good will in diff ways; being unruffled and cool/laid back also important #ELTchat |
| teflerinha |
12:50 PM |
@jo_cummins @teflgeek Yes, becos if you can set aside what's making u feel rubbish u can get in touch with connection btween u & ss #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:51 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Different Ts achieve gd rapport and good will in diff ways; being unruffled and cool/laid back also important #ELTchat |
| teflerinha |
12:51 PM |
@Julian_LEnfant @teflgeek Yes, more about expressing who we really are [WE ARE TEACHERS! ;) ] #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:51 PM |
@Shaunwilden @teflgeek @teflerinha I'd like to think all of it, though it's probably a larger than life version of the private 'me' #eltchat |
| mrmohammedsheha |
12:51 PM |
#Eltchat You take % of the real u into class that help you fulfill your objectives |
| jo_cummins |
12:51 PM |
@theteacherjames @teflerinha agree, it's very different with different classes. Some I can be very honest with, others not so much #eltchat |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:51 PM |
RT @esolcourses: @yearinthelifeof @Marisa_C @teflerinha at the most basic level, I suppose it's the ability to command attention & g ... |
| prese1 |
12:51 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Marisa_C: #eltchat I think it's also to do with maintaining a positive energy atmosphere of good will Ss respond to |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:51 PM |
@ELT_Osama_Ali what about when you have to tell them something they don't want to hear? #eltchat |
| ELT_Osama_Ali |
12:52 PM |
@Shaunwilden yes but in the form of their understanding and good work #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:52 PM |
@teflerinha @Julian_LEnfant I think this should be a new #WEARETEACHERS hashtag #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:52 PM |
@Shaunwilden I mean not appearing to be annoyed or moody bcz of st-behaviour :-) or sulk #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:53 PM |
@michaelegriffin Yay! Carl Rogers! Agree absolutely. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:53 PM |
@Shaunwilden :-) #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:53 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: The concept of "unconditional positive regard"is something that has been drilled into me.(see it as different than ... |
| teflerinha |
12:53 PM |
RT @yearinthelifeof: @Marisa_C @esolcourses @teflerinha Goodwill - having ss interests at heart is vital component and will shine out of ... |
| teflerinha |
12:53 PM |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden #eltchat Yes, and ideally actually NOT being annoyed or moody #notalwayseasy |
| yearinthelifeof |
12:53 PM |
@Marisa_C @esolcourses @teflerinha Goodwill - having ss interests at heart is vital component and will shine out of you... or NOT #ELTChat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:53 PM |
The concept of "unconditional positive regard"is something that has been drilled into me.(see it as different than warm/fun/whatev) #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:54 PM |
@MarjorieRosenbe @esolcourses @teflerinha @SophiaKhan4 No, it's the opposite! #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:54 PM |
@yearinthelifeof: @Marisa_C yes, agree. #ELTChat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
12:54 PM |
@michaelegriffin It would be good if everyone in the world had a bit of that for each other :) #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
12:54 PM |
@theteacherjames @esolcourses @teflerinha @SophiaKhan4 just finished class. Agree it is good to stay 'real'. #eltchat Is that performing? |
| bassjen1 |
12:54 PM |
RT @cybraryman1: "All the world's a stage, |
| Marisa_C |
12:54 PM |
@teflerinha true :-) #eltchat #notalwayseasy |
| theteacherjames |
12:54 PM |
RT @jo_cummins: @theteacherjames @teflerinha agree, it's very different with different classes. Some I can be very honest with, others ... |
| teflerinha |
12:55 PM |
@theteacherjames @MarjorieRosenbe @esolcourses @SophiaKhan4 Indeed, the opposite- tho still think place for acting 'as if' #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:55 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @MarjorieRosenbe @theteacherjames @esolcourses @teflerinha @SophiaKhan4 Oo theres a new slant ' is staying real' perfor ... |
| Elsenglish |
12:55 PM |
RT @yearinthelifeof: @Marisa_C @esolcourses @teflerinha Goodwill - having ss interests at heart is vital component and will shine out of ... |
| Shaunwilden |
12:55 PM |
@MarjorieRosenbe @theteacherjames @esolcourses @teflerinha @SophiaKhan4 Oo theres a new slant ' is staying real' performing? #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:55 PM |
MT @Marisa_C: Different Ts achieve gd rapport and good will in diff ways #ELTchat > Yes, absolutely- no one way to be a 'teacher' |
| kevchanwow |
12:56 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: The concept of "unconditional positive regard"is something that has been drilled into me.(see it as different than ... |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
12:56 PM |
@OUPELTGlobal Agree it goes beyond but getting all to listen to a story or explanation is also important. #eltchat |
| prese1 |
12:56 PM |
RT @kevchanwow: As a side, if you 'perform' in class or not, when it comes to apologizing to students, there is only room for simple hum ... |
| kevchanwow |
12:56 PM |
As a side, if you 'perform' in class or not, when it comes to apologizing to students, there is only room for simple humility. #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:57 PM |
@Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe @theteacherjames @esolcourses @teflerinha @SophiaKhan4 only if you're a fake to begin with #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
12:57 PM |
@kevchanwow @Marisa_C @prese1Depends on gtoup. Some of mine jus chat in native tongue. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:57 PM |
The end is nigh....anyone want to grab the summary? #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:57 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @MarjorieRosenbe @theteacherjames @teflerinha @SophiaKhan4 do we mean performing, or using 'performance skills' ? #eltchat |
| mrmohammedsheha |
12:57 PM |
@Shaunwilden Explanation pls! wt do we mean by this? #eltchat |
| muranava |
12:58 PM |
similar to authentic txt vs coursebook txt discussions, is there a 'real' teacher vs 'classrm' teacher? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:58 PM |
RT @SophiaKhan4: @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe #eltchat "I think that a) u hav an act, & that, b) not having an act is yr act." |
| Shaunwilden |
12:58 PM |
@teflerinha Damn honesty :-) #eltchat |
| ELTchat |
12:58 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: The end is nigh....anyone want to grab the summary? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:58 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: The end is nigh....anyone want to grab the summary? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:58 PM |
@SophiaKhan4 @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe Guilty as charged!! #MovieQuote #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:58 PM |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat Being real and honest here, not this time :) |
| teflgeek |
12:59 PM |
RT @muranava: similar to authentic txt vs coursebook txt discussions, is there a 'real' teacher vs 'classrm' teacher? #eltchat |
| kevchanwow |
12:59 PM |
RT @muranava: similar to authentic txt vs coursebook txt discussions, is there a 'real' teacher vs 'classrm' teacher? #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
12:59 PM |
@pysproblem81 Depends on group, relationship with them and what you are being honest about. # eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:59 PM |
@Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe @theteacherjames @teflerinha @SophiaKhan4 what about playing 'devil's advocate, for instance? #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
12:59 PM |
@muranava OOh that's a bombshell to drop in in the last minute #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
1:00 PM |
RT @Julian_LEnfant: #eltchat Be principled,ethical,self & culturally aware;be open 2new ideas,have a desire to learn & the perfo ... |
| michaelegriffin |
1:00 PM |
RT @muranava: similar to authentic txt vs coursebook txt discussions, is there a 'real' teacher vs 'classrm' teacher? #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
1:00 PM |
@Julian_LEnfant Great summation #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
1:00 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: The end is nigh....anyone want to grab the summary? #eltchat |
| teflerinha |
1:00 PM |
RT @Julian_LEnfant: #eltchat Be principled,ethical,self & culturally aware;be open 2new ideas,have a desire to learn & the perfo ... |
| Julian_LEnfant |
1:00 PM |
#eltchat Be principled,ethical,self & culturally aware;be open 2new ideas,have a desire to learn & the performance will take care of itself. |
| kevchanwow |
1:01 PM |
RT @Julian_LEnfant: #eltchat Be principled,ethical,self & culturally aware;be open 2new ideas,have a desire to learn & the perfo ... |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
1:01 PM |
@Shaunwilden @teflerinha That I do for sure. And then someone gets to check on info. #eltchat |
| mrmohammedsheha |
1:01 PM |
RT @Julian_LEnfant: #eltchat Be principled,ethical,self & culturally aware;be open 2new ideas,have a desire to learn & the perfo ... |
| SophiaKhan4 |
1:01 PM |
RT @muranava: similar to authentic txt vs coursebook txt discussions, is there a 'real' teacher vs 'classrm' teacher? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
1:01 PM |
@esolcourses I never play Devil's Advocate... ;-) #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
1:01 PM |
@Julian_LEnfant reckon so! #WEARETEACHERS #eltchat (still pushing the hashtag!) |
| yearinthelifeof |
1:02 PM |
@theteacherjames @SophiaKhan4 @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe I'll name that film: Singles #ELTChat |
| prese1 |
1:03 PM |
Have to plan and teach. Thanx for the chat. #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
1:03 PM |
@Julian_LEnfant depends on definition of authenticity. Prob both, smtms neither, but if text used in ELT, can it be authentic? #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
1:03 PM |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @esolcourses performance skills are very helpful. How much are they learning if they are not paying attention? #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
1:03 PM |
@esolcourses performance skills are very helpful. How much are they learning if they are not paying attention? #eltchat |
| Julian_LEnfant |
1:03 PM |
@muranava @teflgeek With modern CBs, is it the texts that aren't authentic or the tasks? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
1:04 PM |
Did we find a wonderful volunteer to write the summary? Go on, you know you want to! #eltchat |
| Julian_LEnfant |
1:05 PM |
@teflgeek This would mean that as soon as a newspaper article or magazine is taken into the classroom it's no longer 'authentic'. #eltchat |
| Uncomformity |
1:05 PM |
Doubtful. Just teachers differently effective on multiple criteria MT(ed)@muranava is there a 'real' teacher vs 'classrm' teacher? #eltchat |
| SophiaKhan4 |
1:05 PM |
Midnight here and still need to work a bit. Thanks for chat and thanks to moderators :) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
1:05 PM |
Right then time to call a halt to proceedings #eltchat summary writer? |
| mrmohammedsheha |
1:06 PM |
It was my 1st time ever 2 join any educational Twitter chat! It was so informative&friendly! Thank u :) <3 #Eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
1:06 PM |
@Shaunwilden @@theteacherjames @esolcourses @teflerinha @SophiaKhan4 Sometimes. My teacher perspnality may be diff from private. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
1:06 PM |
The 21 GMT #eltchat is If teachers talked less wouldn’t the sts speak Eng more or ways to engage learners to take control of the lessons... |
| teflgeek |
1:06 PM |
@Julian_LEnfant some would say so. Personally I think in that situation it retains it's authenticity.... #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
1:06 PM |
@MarjorieRosenbe yes - agree absolutely. I'm sure we've all seen ppl teach who really know their subject, but can't put it across #eltchat |
| yearinthelifeof |
1:06 PM |
@theteacherjames What do we have in store for this evening? #ELTChat |
| teflgeek |
1:07 PM |
@Julian_LEnfant @muranava one to propose for next week's #eltchat? |
| theteacherjames |
1:07 PM |
@yearinthelifeof "If the teachers talked less wouldn’t the students speak English more... #ELTChat |
| ELTchat |
1:07 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Right then time to call a halt to proceedings #eltchat summary writer? |
| muranava |
1:07 PM |
many thanks all #eltchat |
| muranava |
1:07 PM |
Julian_LEnfant @teflgeek an interesting other discussion for sure :0 #eltchat #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
1:08 PM |
@SophiaKhan4 second this. Sorry cant help with summary-deadlines are looming. #eltchat |
| kerrileebarrett |
1:08 PM |
thanks #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
1:08 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: The 21 GMT #eltchat is If teachers talked less wouldn’t the sts speak Eng more or ways to engage learners to take contr ... |
| theteacherjames |
1:08 PM |
@yearinthelifeof ...or ways to engage learners to take control of the lessons, techniques and tips." #ELTChat |
| gret |
1:09 PM |
Please leave some comments on my 5th Graders' blogs! #elemchat #eltchat #comments4kids #edchat http://t.co/4dZIT12t |
| esolcourses |
1:09 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: The 21 GMT #eltchat is If teachers talked less wouldn’t the sts speak Eng more or ways to engage learners to take contr ... |
| theteacherjames |
1:09 PM |
@mrmohammedsheha Great to see you here Mohammed. Hope to see you again in 8hrs from now, or next week. #Eltchat |
| teflgeek |
1:09 PM |
@Julian_LEnfant but again, if you take the task out of it's natural context, how authentic is it? (just to play Devil's advocate!) #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
1:10 PM |
@DaveDodgson @yearinthelifeof Hope so chaps, be good to see you there as always! #ELTchat |
| muranava |
1:10 PM |
@Uncomformity agreed! #eltchat |
| BestOfDL |
1:10 PM |
RT @gret: Please leave some comments on my 5th Graders' blogs! #elemchat #eltchat #comments4kids #edchat http://t.co/4dZIT12t |
| DaveDodgson |
1:10 PM |
@theteacherjames @yearinthelifeof That's quite a mouthful! I will try to make it if I can stay awake ;-) #ELTchat |
| jo_cummins |
1:11 PM |
thanks @Shaunwilden, my first #eltchat! It was fun :) |
| yearinthelifeof |
1:11 PM |
@DaveDodgson @theteacherjames Always a bit of a late shift for those of us here in Turkey #ELTChat |
| teflgeek |
1:11 PM |
thanks for a fun #eltchat all - see you next time! |
| Shaunwilden |
1:12 PM |
@jo_cummins Glad you enjoyed it :-) #ELTChat |
| Julian_LEnfant |
1:12 PM |
#eltchat Thanks for the chat. Pity our clocks go back this weekend.Being only 3hrs behind in #Halifax made it easier. Halloween stuff now.:) |
| mrkempnz |
1:12 PM |
RT @gret: Please leave some comments on my 5th Graders' blogs! #elemchat #eltchat #comments4kids #edchat http://t.co/4dZIT12t |
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