| username |
time |
status |
| Marisa_C |
9:00 PM |
Welcome everyone to #ELTchat for the next hour my tweets on whether learning a foreign language helps teachers teach |
| shaznosel |
9:00 PM |
#eltchat Evening all! |
| Marisa_C |
9:01 PM |
Question - how many of you have undertaken to learn a foreign language, say in the last 2-3 years @ #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:01 PM |
Good evening, afternoon or morning! #eltchat |
| teacherthom |
9:01 PM |
@Marisa_C definitely! Looking back I can't believe that I wasn't taught it at school and I don't believe that has changed since #eltchat |
| Marialva |
9:01 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: Moderating with me tonight @theteacherjames and @BrunoELT - If new to #ELTchat please ask any of us for help |
| Marisa_C |
9:01 PM |
RT @BrunoELT: #eltchat Can you start by telling us what languages have you studied? Did you struggle? How did you feel? |
| stephenburrows |
9:02 PM |
#eltchat I want to learn a 3rd lang, learnt 2nd whilst becoming lang teacher, made lots of mistakes from the beginning that harmed progress |
| Marisa_C |
9:02 PM |
RT @Noreen_Lam: Learning Spanish grammar has helped me sort out the jargon that comes with teaching English grammar #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:02 PM |
@teacherthom no it hasn\t #eltchat |
| Noreen_Lam |
9:02 PM |
Learning Spanish grammar has helped me sort out the jargon that comes with teaching English grammar #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:03 PM |
RT @stephenburrows: #eltchat I reckon I could apply theory/ideas/techniques no I've learnt through study of 2nd lang aquisition |
| SueAnnan |
9:03 PM |
The trainees on CertTESOL always learn a foreign lang. to give them empathy. Marisa, Is CELTA the same? #ELTchat |
| leoselivan |
9:03 PM |
Finally It's a topic I voted for :) |
| stephenburrows |
9:03 PM |
#eltchat I reckon I could apply theory/ideas/techniques no I've learnt through study of 2nd lang aquisition |
| sandymillin |
9:03 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: Welcome everyone to #ELTchat for the next hour my tweets on whether learning a foreign language helps teachers teach |
| Marisa_C |
9:03 PM |
@teacherthom I cna believe you -I regularly test NESTs for grammar and the results are often quite disconcerting! #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:04 PM |
I started learning Chinese in April, same week I started teaching two Chinese beginners. Beautiful symmetry: http://t.co/UeV3l9aZ #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:04 PM |
@Marisa_C reckon it's a useful thing to do. This time mine are doing Thai ! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:04 PM |
@SueAnnan #ELTchat If I have a group of NESTs I teach them Greek :-) |
| theteacherjames |
9:04 PM |
@Marisa_C @teacherthom Learning a foreign lang (Portuguese also!) hasn't helped me with Eng, but helped me understand students. #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:04 PM |
@Marisa_CMany of my ss in the UK told me I was more sympathetic than other Ts who had not lived in a foreign country- #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:04 PM |
@SueAnnan CELTA not the same but I always do bits of a beginner course - in my case Turkish! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:05 PM |
@SueAnnan one day i got Burcu on Skype to do my TPR lesson with me was fun! #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:05 PM |
@Marisa_C @BrunoELT I only think that becomes a problem when you become an English teacher! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:05 PM |
@BrunoELT grammar is still not taught in UK schools or US schools #eltchat |
| teacherthom |
9:05 PM |
@BrunoELT good q. 1st thing that comes to mind is that my L2 ss will normally have a better understanding of grammar than UK ss #eltchat |
| stephenburrows |
9:06 PM |
@theteacherjames yes, being on the other side of the fence is a rewarding but frustrating experience; no inspirtational teachers yet#eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:06 PM |
@Marisa_C what a brilliant idea #ELTchat |
| shaznosel |
9:06 PM |
@SueAnnan Exactly it is the empathy factor that helps you relate to their probs..#eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:06 PM |
I find having foreign langs very useful - can understand why SS from those L1s make certain mistakes&have been in their shoes #ELTchat |
| teacherthom |
9:06 PM |
@Marisa_C Mind you wanting to become a language teacher is good motivation to learn - it worked with me! #eltchat |
| UTPublicEd |
9:06 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: Welcome everyone to #ELTchat for the next hour my tweets on whether learning a foreign language helps teachers teach |
| Marisa_C |
9:07 PM |
have been in their shoes @sandymillin says - an important thing I think #eltchat |
| teacherthom |
9:07 PM |
@theteacherjames @Marisa_C v. true! Certainly increases your empathy for learners #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:07 PM |
we did couple hrs of FL on celta |
| Noreen_Lam |
9:07 PM |
@theteacherjames @Marisa_C @teacherthom Agreed bout understanding ss--helps predict the error and easily spot the L1 intrfrnce #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:07 PM |
@sandymillin #ELTchat sounds cool |
| Marisa_C |
9:08 PM |
I myself am guilty of not having engaged in any FL learning recently #eltchat - only a bit of an online lesson in portuguese - aaaargh |
| Marialva |
9:08 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: Bored of slides? Sign up for a free @Prezi account to stop boring #presentations! http://t.co/cOc4tdTs #ELTchat |
| hmbaba |
9:08 PM |
For LTCL/PG Dip had to learn a lang but more to be aware of teacher errors and teaching techniques #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:08 PM |
@stephenburrows Yes, I've been in the same boat. I'd love to have just one good teacher, just one. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:08 PM |
@shaznosel It's also a good way to determine what might work when teaching beginners #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:08 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: "have been in their shoes" @sandymillin says - an important thing I think #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:08 PM |
@Marisa_C @BrunoELT Yes..I still struggle with grammar as a NS, my NNS colleagues are far more superior! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:09 PM |
@SueAnnan I am terrible! I look at how the teacher teaches - it's really distracting for me #ELTchat |
| stephenburrows |
9:09 PM |
#eltchat do you think you lose face if you are a language teacher who doesn't have great command of other languages? |
| Marisa_C |
9:09 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: do you think that teachers make bad students, though #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:09 PM |
do you think that teachers make bad students, though#ELTchat |
| shaznosel |
9:09 PM |
@SueAnnan Too true #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:09 PM |
RT @sandymillin: RT @sandymillin: I find having foreign langs very useful - can understand why SS from those L1s make certain mistakes&have been in t ... |
| theteacherjames |
9:10 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: RT @SueAnnan: do you think that teachers make bad students, though#ELTchat |
| stephenburrows |
9:10 PM |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan #eltchat I think I'm a good student, I can tell when a teacher is making an effort even if activity no successful |
| Mo_Americanoid |
9:10 PM |
teaching tip nr 1687: empathy is essential in a teacher. Try learning sthg new you'll see what I mean. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:10 PM |
@Marisa_C me too. I am much more critical of other teachers if I'm paying for lessons #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:10 PM |
@Marisa_C @sandymillin The number one reason why teachers should learn another lang: "to have been in their shoes" #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:11 PM |
@shaznosel or just practice and different training? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:11 PM |
@Mo_Americanoid An important point - if it's not a FL try learning somethine NEW anyway - e,.g. edtech or sth #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:11 PM |
RT @InglesnaRede: @SueAnnan @theteacherjames Sometimes it can! #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:11 PM |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan Good question! Prob yes, as we always think we would do this/that in a different way! Ego thing- again!#eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:11 PM |
Anyone know why I'm not getting all of the #eltchat tweets on theTwitter a p p on i P a d? |
| theteacherjames |
9:11 PM |
@SueAnnan I know I do! #ELTchat |
| leoselivan |
9:11 PM |
NS struggling with grammar as in explaining it ? #ELTchat |
| hmbaba |
9:11 PM |
even if u have learnt langs, it's a different case if u know the lang of ur learners or if u learnt a different lang #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:11 PM |
@stephenburrows that's good #eltchat |
| hmbaba |
9:12 PM |
when I started teaching w/out training I based classes on what I liked/didn't like in my lang classes at school #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:12 PM |
@SueAnnan Good for Ts to see a different prespective and see if they actually learn.#eltchat |
| Noreen_Lam |
9:12 PM |
@marisa_c @SueAnnan Yes! Thinking about how they could make the lesson more ss-centred or interactive etc!! #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:12 PM |
@stephenburrows I've had some where the teacher was sooo boring! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:12 PM |
@stephenburrows indeed!!!! #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:12 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: RT @theteacherjames: @Marisa_C @sandymillin The number one reason why teachers should learn another lang: "to have been in their shoes" ... |
| stephenburrows |
9:12 PM |
#eltchat but I've had some shocking lessons, which I find saddening |
| theteacherjames |
9:12 PM |
RT @Mo_Americanoid: RT @Mo_Americanoid: teaching tip nr 1687: empathy is essential in a teacher. Try learning sthg new you'll see what I mean. #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:12 PM |
@Marisa_C @sueannan I know I'm a bad student. I speak too much English, and only do my HW the night before the lesson! #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:12 PM |
@InglesnaRede True! (don't forget the #eltchat hashtag!) |
| Noreen_Lam |
9:13 PM |
@stephenburrows Don't know if ur lang skills r on the line, but at least I think it's expected u should have good study techniques #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:13 PM |
@sandymillin LOL Sandy. I hope i'm a bit better organised, but probably not #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:13 PM |
@hmbaba we all do don't we - I am embarrassed when I recall my first classes myself :-D #eltchat |
| stephenburrows |
9:13 PM |
#eltchat the shocking thing with badly prepared teachers putting in no effort is lots of students in the class still respect them |
| shaznosel |
9:13 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: RT @theteacherjames: @Marisa_C @sandymillin The number one reason why teachers should learn another lang: "to have been in their shoes" ... |
| Marisa_C |
9:14 PM |
@sandymillin I did that with advanced french - I would tell the T how I wanted her to do the lesson - shocking! #eltchat |
| hmbaba |
9:14 PM |
disagree - i was in their shoes 30 years ago - is that relevant today - it's all changed #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:14 PM |
#eltchat I've found that now I prefer 121 classes because if it's 121 you have more say in what the T does if you don't like it! |
| InglesnaRede |
9:14 PM |
@stephenburrows: True! #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:15 PM |
#eltchat finally home and on the computer - not on Android phone! where were we? |
| Marisa_C |
9:15 PM |
@BrunoELT yes please - when i have 2 and half minutes #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:15 PM |
My last teacher was a great man & an average teacher. I learned a lot about teaching from him, without him realising. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:15 PM |
RT @BrunoELT: #eltchat am I too off if I say that learning a foreign lgg is a step to become a better ELT teacher? > you re right ON |
| stephenburrows |
9:15 PM |
@sandymillin #eltchat agree! But I like the whole social factor of group lessons, it's quite funny |
| shaznosel |
9:15 PM |
@stephenburrows Weird isn't it?? May be some ss dont know anything else or just respect the t, no matter what.#eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:15 PM |
RT @hmbaba: disagree - i was in their shoes 30 years ago - is that relevant today - it's all changed #eltchat > right! |
| SueAnnan |
9:15 PM |
I find it hard when the teacher doesn't take account of sts learning styles and carries on regardless #ELTchat |
| stephenburrows |
9:16 PM |
@shaznosel #eltchat I never get it, I remember one lesson the T was just pulling out any cloze from his bag |
| Mo_Americanoid |
9:16 PM |
#eltchat I'd noticed I was growing extremely impatient with my Ss. How could they b so dumb? Until I took up playing the piano. |
| stephenburrows |
9:17 PM |
@shaznosel #eltchat but ss were totally happy, joking about impossible to complete cloze activities - I was furious, I could see no effort |
| theteacherjames |
9:17 PM |
@SueAnnan My last teacher didn't even ask us why we were there, so how could he design good lessons? #ELTchat |
| leoselivan |
9:17 PM |
apart from the experience of stepping into students' shoes, what about the actual process of learning? #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:17 PM |
I think age is a big factor..older ss tend to realise if the T can relate to their position, YLs do not question the T's empathy #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:17 PM |
@knolinfos Hi. Use the hashtag #ELTchat and join in :-) #teachers |
| sandymillin |
9:17 PM |
@BrunoELT Definitely a plus to know a few langs, and it's easier to spot probs for other SS with experience :) #ELTchat |
| hmbaba |
9:18 PM |
It's not about teaching, it's about sharing study skills and techniques and knowing what sts need to do to practise and suceed #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:18 PM |
RT @Mo_Americanoid: RT @Mo_Americanoid: #eltchat I'd noticed I was growing extremely impatient with my Ss. How could they b so dumb? Until I took up playing ... |
| shaznosel |
9:18 PM |
@stephenburrows Sh..happens and it's so sad the ss don't question it #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:18 PM |
RT @BrunoELT: #eltchat am I too off if I say that learning a foreign lgg is a step to become a better ELT teacher? >> No, I think not! |
| SueAnnan |
9:18 PM |
@Marisa_C you, I think Honey #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:18 PM |
Is there a pause or is it my Tweetdeck? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:19 PM |
@Marisa_C interestingly, I like the Lang to be drilled enough. But I don't enjoy doing it in class :-) #Eltchat |
| teacherthom |
9:19 PM |
@leoselivan interesting, especially if you're returning to edu as an adult having only had school or even uni exp #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:19 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: As a beginning learner of a FL, which of the techniques your T used did you most like/appreciate/hate/love? #Eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:19 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: As a beginning learner of a FL, which of the techniques your T used did you most like/appreciate/hate/love? #Eltchat |
| anna_whitcher |
9:19 PM |
Important to start with a new language from scratch to remember how hard it is for our Ss who really struggle. #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:19 PM |
RT @hmbaba: RT @hmbaba: It's not about teaching, it's about sharing study skills and techniques and knowing what sts need to do to practise and suce ... |
| Marisa_C |
9:19 PM |
As a beginning learner of a FL, which of the techniques your T used did you most like/appreciate/hate/love? #Eltchat |
| teacherthom |
9:20 PM |
@Marisa_C one of my Japanese teachers used glove puppets! That was... interesting #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:20 PM |
RT @anna_whitcher: RT @anna_whitcher: Important to start with a new language from scratch to remember how hard it is for our Ss who really struggle. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:20 PM |
@leoselivan yes that takes away your autonomy #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:20 PM |
RT @stephenburrows: @Marisa_C #eltchat LOVE: vocab and speaking HATE: grammar (FL is Portuguese) |
| sandymillin |
9:20 PM |
@Marisa_C #eltchat In Chinese lessons, liked the way things were repeated. And we did a lot of listening, with speaking when ready |
| theteacherjames |
9:20 PM |
@Marisa_C I really didn't enjoy the endless grammar explanations (you'd have loved it! ;-) ) #Eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:20 PM |
or explained every single word in a reading text - another thing I hated #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:20 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: @Marisa_C interestingly, I like the Lang to be drilled enough. But I don't enjoy doing it in class :-) #Eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:20 PM |
most hated: when she gave us a list of 50 food names in Spanish! #eltchat |
| stephenburrows |
9:20 PM |
@Marisa_C #eltchat LOVE: vocab and speaking HATE: grammar (FL is Portuguese) |
| shaznosel |
9:20 PM |
@Mo_Americanoid @theteacherjames Exactly as we say..empathy is a key word..our attidudes change when we understand the ss position.#eltchat |
| Mo_Americanoid |
9:21 PM |
never enjoyed vocab lists #eltchat |
| dianatremayne |
9:21 PM |
I started off as an MFL teacher - invaluable I think but my biggest challenge has been learning BSL - can't just read/listen to it #eltchat |
| Noreen_Lam |
9:21 PM |
@stephenburrows Reminds me of T who came unprepared, then wasted an hr only talking 2 one student while us 9 did nothin! NOT Dogme! #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:21 PM |
I think it's a cultural thing too..for ss studying L2 in another country..it's not just L2 in class..it's in the community too #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:21 PM |
@teacherthom lol .... #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:21 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: RT @SueAnnan: @Marisa_C interestingly, I like the Lang to be drilled enough. But I don't enjoy doing it in class :-) #Eltchat |
| Mo_Americanoid |
9:21 PM |
In learning L2 I enjoyed role playing or even reading dialogues #eltchat |
| stephenburrows |
9:21 PM |
#eltchat but yeah, depends how vocab was taught, like Leo, had a T just asking SS for words which she'd then translate into EN |
| Marisa_C |
9:21 PM |
RT @leoselivan: most hated: when she gave us a list of 50 food names in Spanish! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:22 PM |
I think reading dialogues and drilling is underrated in the CLT class #ELtchat I loved this as a beginner #eltchat |
| stephenburrows |
9:22 PM |
@Noreen_Lam #eltchat Ah, the classic "Can't deal with this student, so I'll ignore them completely" technique - been on the end of that one! |
| sandymillin |
9:22 PM |
@SueAnnan #ELTchat I really like drilling as a student - all about more pron! So important, which you realise when beginning lang #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:22 PM |
@stephenburrows Me too, my list would be exactly the same. #eltchat |
| hmbaba |
9:22 PM |
we have OUR learner diffs and prefs and all kinds of variables to consider - we can't generalise #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:22 PM |
@shaznosel @Mo_Americanoid I think it can have a massive effect on our teaching. One of the best training techniques available. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:23 PM |
@BrunoELT yes reading aloud- what's that about then? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:23 PM |
One of the things I remember as a beginning L of Turkish is how difficult the step to reading paragraphs/texts was #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:23 PM |
My teacher would constantly interrupt me while I spoke, correcting every minute error. Drove me nuts. I'll never do that to a st. #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:23 PM |
@theteacherjames @Mo_Americanoid Like! Agree! We can relate not just teach, we become friends not just teachers #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:23 PM |
as Marisa mentioned earlier ever since I became a lang teacher I look more critically at Ts of other Ls. Often very shocking #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:24 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @sandymillin sounds like one of my celta trainees (or quite a few of them in fact :-D) #eltchat :-))) |
| Marisa_C |
9:24 PM |
@sandymillin sounds like one of my celta trainees (or quite a few of them in fact :-D) #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:24 PM |
MT @Marisa_C: reading dialogues & drilling is underrated in the CLT class #ELtchat I loved this as a beginner >love readin dialogs #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:24 PM |
#eltchat I had a French teacher in Paraguay who asked questions and didn't give us time to answer and talked to the board all the time |
| Noreen_Lam |
9:25 PM |
@stephenburrows Not sure if it was even that...he couldn't deal with 9 of us then?? Lots of complaints to DoS who then swapped T #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:25 PM |
can we also focus on the process of learning and not #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:25 PM |
@Mo_Americanoid I always hated roleplays as I school student, but I know they're useful. Want to investigate them during my Delta #ELTchat |
| shaznosel |
9:25 PM |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan It's our egos again, ladies! Put the shoe on the other foot!#eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:25 PM |
RT @leoselivan: RT @leoselivan: as Marisa mentioned earlier ever since I became a lang teacher I look more critically at Ts of other Ls. Often very shoc ... |
| SueAnnan |
9:26 PM |
@Marisa_C Ouch ! #ELtchat |
| hmbaba |
9:26 PM |
@leoselivan we all self-evaluate after class on our performance and know when we did badly - whatever the subject #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:26 PM |
IAn experiment once where we wrote feedback to the T (bunch of Ts mind) and said how we felt and how we wanted ot be taught #ELtchat |
| stephenburrows |
9:26 PM |
@Noreen_Lam #eltchat did the student who T was talking to not feel self-concious? |
| SueAnnan |
9:26 PM |
RT @knolinfos: @SueAnnan Hi and when I make mistakes with my English I want also a correction so that I can learn also, OK? #ELTchat |
| teacherthom |
9:26 PM |
@Marisa_C @leoselivan 'read aloud' happens a lot in #esol too. ss love it, seem to expect it almost #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:26 PM |
sorry! can we also focus briefly on the process of learning and not only on T teaching? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:26 PM |
@SueAnnan @BrunoELT Yup, I had to do reading aloud too. Every time, I had to take a deep breathe & get on with it... #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:26 PM |
I think teachers who continue to learn add something extra to the classroom. It doesn't have to be another language #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:27 PM |
@Marisa_C I try to do that with my business classes #ELtchat |
| knolinfos |
9:27 PM |
@SueAnnan OK, I see. I forgot the #ELTchat, thx ;) |
| stephenburrows |
9:27 PM |
RT @elawassell: RT @elawassell: RT @SueAnnan: I think teachers who continue to learn add something extra to the classroom. It doesn't have to be another ... |
| shaznosel |
9:27 PM |
@sandymillin @Mo_Americanoid I adore role plays but appreciae it's not everyonedoes!Diffferent characters suit diff activities #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:27 PM |
@SueAnnan It was great - it;s called a Negotiated Syllabus and it's worth experiencing - truly #ELtchat |
| sandymillin |
9:27 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: RT @SueAnnan: I think teachers who continue to learn add something extra to the classroom. It doesn't have to be another language #ELTchat |
| elawassell |
9:27 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: I think teachers who continue to learn add something extra to the classroom. It doesn't have to be another language #ELTchat |
| stephenburrows |
9:28 PM |
#eltchat role-plays are very hit and miss for me, a lot to do with my mood at the time. |
| SueAnnan |
9:28 PM |
@Marisa_C why not at the beginning of class? #ELtchat |
| shaznosel |
9:28 PM |
@elawassell @stephenburrows @SueAnnan True and whatever it is , it adds to our experience #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:28 PM |
do you think the process of learning another L made u more aware of grammar, chunks, in Eng? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:28 PM |
@SueAnnan 5 minute writing at end of class - have kept those notes - worth a blog post #ELtchat |
| Noreen_Lam |
9:28 PM |
RT @sueannan: I think Ts who cont. to learn add something extra to the classroom. It doesn't have to be another lang #ELTchat>Definitely!! |
| theteacherjames |
9:28 PM |
I realised I'm the kind of st you have who you think isn't taking it seriously, but actually who's needs are not being met. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:29 PM |
@shaznosel I hate roleplays. I don't like to make an idiot of myself in new circumstances :-( #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:29 PM |
@leoselivan To be honest, not really, I learned much more from teaching it. #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:29 PM |
MT @theteacherjames: Im the kind of st u have who u think isnt taking it seriously, but actually whos needs r not being met. >same! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:29 PM |
@SueAnnan cos she needed the time to prepare for the next one - dogme was not even a glint in Scot's eye #ELtchat |
| Noreen_Lam |
9:29 PM |
@stephenburrows Think she was just taking adv of her fab 121 class.... #eltchat |
| hmbaba |
9:29 PM |
we can't generalise - some sts love the old fashioned stuff - one man's meat and all that - even tho WE know better! #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:30 PM |
@Notyetlanguage but what particular aspects? grammr, vocab, pronunciation, register etc... #eltchat |
| knolinfos |
9:30 PM |
@SueAnnan Hi Sue, thx! It's not against #teachers, but there is a need to wake up some, OK!? #ELTchat |
| sandymillin |
9:31 PM |
@leoselivan And also constantly felt guilty abotu speaking English even when I knew I only knew about 30 Chinese words! #ELTchat |
| stephenburrows |
9:31 PM |
@theteacherjames @BrunoELT @SueAnnan #eltchat Seriously? I LOVE reading aloud in FL classes! |
| losdel592 |
9:31 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: Join us in a few minutes for a lively #ELTchat on How much learning a foreign language helps teachers teach |
| Noreen_Lam |
9:31 PM |
All these bad T exps could've been avoided if they had done needs analysis & learner diaries! #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:31 PM |
@theteacherjames I'm with you on that #eltchat |
| Notyetlanguage |
9:31 PM |
@elawassell @SueAnnan students like teachers who know a lot, e.g. their specialized fields, this motivates them to speak in FL #eltchat |
| hmbaba |
9:31 PM |
ok - who out there HASN'T learnt a lang - do u feel disadvantaged or somehow inadequate? #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:31 PM |
@leoselivan I think my L2 learning has benefitted from teaching. When I started Chinese, I tried to use some edtech to help. #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:31 PM |
@BrunoELT @SueAnnan Another thing I leaned in lang class: (almost) never do reading aloud! #eltchat |
| Notyetlanguage |
9:32 PM |
@leoselivan all of that ...but it's mostly about acquisition and application #eltchat |
| inkscrblr |
9:32 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: RT @SueAnnan: I think teachers who continue to learn add something extra to the classroom. It doesn't have to be another language #ELTchat |
| stephenburrows |
9:32 PM |
@SueAnnan #eltchat yes, I like doing it, I like it when it feels I'm giving the text some oomph (for want of a better word) |
| teacherthom |
9:32 PM |
RT @Marisa_C "dogme was not even a glint in Scot's eye"> nice! #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:32 PM |
@theteacherjames really? I am surprised cos I find I learn a lot from learning other Ls & comparing things to Eng. #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:32 PM |
@SueAnnan That's what I'm saying..comes down to your personality! I never mind looking the idiot if I m talking! #ELTCHAT |
| SueAnnan |
9:32 PM |
@BrunoELT Yep #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:32 PM |
@stephenburrows you personally? #eltchat |
| AnnLoseva |
9:33 PM |
@theteacherjames @sueannan @brunoelt I loved reading aloud in another (not Eng Lang!) #eltchat and in Eng too actually, still do that |
| SueAnnan |
9:33 PM |
@knolinfos hello #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:33 PM |
@leoselivan Not to say I haven't learned anything, but not as much as I learned by teaching it. #eltchat |
| knolinfos |
9:33 PM |
I forgot to say hello 2 everybody, where are my manners, sorry :( #ELTchat Hello |
| stephenburrows |
9:33 PM |
@SueAnnan #eltchat even now, I like to do read aloud with students, especiall YLs, we do "dramatic reading", it's really funny |
| leoselivan |
9:33 PM |
@sandymillin interesting. FL learning benefited from EL teaching #eltchat |
| TESOL_Assn |
9:33 PM |
Why School Should Focus on Engagement Instead of Lectures | TIME Ideas | http://t.co/5DMN7QE9 http://t.co/Qd94oGTE #edchat #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:33 PM |
@leoselivan Well, if I'm being completely honest, this is my main weakness so I'm more likely to learn other things about teaching. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:33 PM |
@shaznosel great. And you are absolutely right about personality #ELTCHAT |
| Marisa_C |
9:34 PM |
RT @sandymillin: #eltchat @kenwilsonlondon wrote a series of blog posts about his German lessons http://t.co/oD9bMYzn Great insights! >tue |
| SueAnnan |
9:34 PM |
@AnnLoseva Hi Honey. Nice to catch up #eltchat |
| AnnLoseva |
9:34 PM |
#eltchat hello, hope I can still tune in for a discussion |
| hmbaba |
9:34 PM |
if it motivates and interests sts, do it! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:34 PM |
@inkscrblr good point - revelational to me when I tried horseriding lessons! #ELTchat |
| sandymillin |
9:34 PM |
#eltchat @kenwilsonlondon wrote a series of blog posts about his German lessons http://t.co/mQmBeXNF Great insights! |
| anna_whitcher |
9:34 PM |
Also important to remember that just because we love languages doesn't mean our students do. We have to engage them. #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:35 PM |
@anna_whitcher Very true about engaging students. We talked about language highs yesterday - that made them smile :) #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:35 PM |
RT @hmbaba: RT @hmbaba: ok - who out there HASN'T learnt a lang - do u feel disadvantaged or somehow inadequate? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:35 PM |
@stephenburrows I've never found a reason for it, but that's for another #eltchat!: http://t.co/WJqzVoqQ |
| Notyetlanguage |
9:35 PM |
@leoselivan it's the monitor in your head which you start to understand better when you study a new L #eltchat |
| elawassell |
9:35 PM |
@theteacherjames @leoselivan quite different from NS or NNS point of view -I'm learning Spanish&make most references 2 PL not ENG #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:35 PM |
@shaznosel yes, you can't just expect everyone to be the same, but bad teachers often do #eltchat |
| AnnLoseva |
9:35 PM |
RT @anna_whitcher: RT @anna_whitcher: Also important to remember that just because we love languages doesn't mean our students do. We have to engage them. ... |
| leoselivan |
9:35 PM |
I often use examples of my learning FL in class with my Ss, eg showing how knowledge of a lexical item develops overtime #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:35 PM |
RT @anna_whitcher: RT @anna_whitcher: Also important to remember that just because we love languages doesn't mean our students do. We have to engage them. ... |
| shaznosel |
9:35 PM |
@AnnLoseva @theteacherjames @sueannan @brunoelt Another personality thing..some love it/some hate it..#eltchat |
| stephenburrows |
9:36 PM |
@theteacherjames #eltchat when I'm reading in FL, I always try to have a voice there, even in my head - it helps |
| shaznosel |
9:36 PM |
@SueAnnan True..what I like , you must love syndrome..sad but happens. Down to that ego thing again! #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:36 PM |
#eltchat Language highs: http://t.co/OGY64zf9 |
| Marisa_C |
9:36 PM |
@anna_whitcher Very good point Anna - I love grammar - doesn't mean it's everyone's cup of tea!!!! #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:36 PM |
@sandymillin #eltchat @kenwilsonlondon and @dalecoulter has just started a new blog reflecting on his learning German #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:36 PM |
RT @Noreen_Lam: RT @Noreen_Lam: All these bad T exps could've been avoided if they had done needs analysis & learner diaries! #eltchat |
| AnnLoseva |
9:36 PM |
@anna_whitcher #eltchat very true |
| shaznosel |
9:37 PM |
@sandymillin @theteacherjames @kenwilsonlondon Again..it's putting ourselves in the ss shoes.#eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:37 PM |
@elawassell @theteacherjames really? could be individ. cos I kept making references to French when learning Spanish #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:37 PM |
@leoselivan I take in examples of my vocab notes as examples #ELTchat |
| elawassell |
9:37 PM |
RT @leoselivan: RT @leoselivan: I often use examples of my learning FL in class with my Ss, eg showing how knowledge of a lexical item develops overtime ... |
| SueAnnan |
9:37 PM |
@hmbaba tech tools don't make the teacher better #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:37 PM |
@AnnLoseva Welcome, good to see you! #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:37 PM |
RT @sandymillin: RT @sandymillin: #eltchat @kenwilsonlondon wrote a series of blog posts about his German lessons http://t.co/mQmBeXNF Great insights! |
| inkscrblr |
9:37 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: here is a funny video - bad presentation - can be used with classes to work out how to get it right http://t.co/6T1DEeOe # ... |
| theteacherjames |
9:37 PM |
RT @sandymillin: RT @sandymillin: #eltchat @kenwilsonlondon wrote a series of blog posts about his German lessons http://t.co/mQmBeXNF Great insights! |
| hmbaba |
9:37 PM |
Our bad teacher examples etc didn't have tec tools probably - can we relate to new millenium lang learning? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:37 PM |
RT @anna_whitcher: RT @anna_whitcher: Also important to remember that just because we love languages doesn't mean our students do. We have to engage them. ... |
| theteacherjames |
9:38 PM |
RT @sandymillin: RT @sandymillin: #eltchat Language highs: http://t.co/OGY64zf9 |
| SueAnnan |
9:38 PM |
@hmbaba true #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:38 PM |
@Notyetlanguage monitor as in Krashen's monitor? #eltchat |
| hmbaba |
9:38 PM |
@SueAnnan - but we are talking about our experiences in relation to our sts experience #eltchat |
| anna_whitcher |
9:38 PM |
@Marisa_C Exactly. I sometimes forget that most people don't get overly excited about phrasal verbs ... #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:38 PM |
@BrunoELT @AnnLoseva @stephenburrows @sueannan Been there, hated that... #eltchat |
| hmbaba |
9:39 PM |
@sandymillin - and how well did that go down? #eltchat |
| Noreen_Lam |
9:39 PM |
It's also about being a good role model for ss right? Show them how u incorp FL into ur life, & hopefully motivates them to do same #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:39 PM |
@hmbaba My very good Chinese teacher this year didn't use tech at all - it was me who brought the tech tools in! #ELTchat |
| leoselivan |
9:39 PM |
@sandymillin I've shown my Spanish squiggles in class too as an example :) #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:40 PM |
If we're sharing links, here's my own series of posts about my language learning experiences: http://t.co/6m15i11w #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:40 PM |
@hmbaba @SueAnnan Yes..is it an advantage if the t has learnt another language? Guess the answer lies in How she learnt it!?#eltchat |
| AnnLoseva |
9:40 PM |
@BrunoELT @stephenburrows @theteacherjames @sueannan oh no not like that #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:40 PM |
@stephenburrows I agree #eltchat |
| stephenburrows |
9:40 PM |
@sandymillin @hmbaba #eltchat Is using edtech the sign of a FL teacher you can trust? Not for me. |
| SueAnnan |
9:40 PM |
@sandymillin i had a trainee who used tech and was still a cr*p teacher #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:41 PM |
If we take it a step sideways, any learner feels good abt having a T who is learning SOMEthing all the time #Eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:41 PM |
@Noreen_Lam #ELTchat 2/2 ...tell them that I tell them to do things but don't always do them myself! Do as I say... |
| hmbaba |
9:41 PM |
@stephenburrows - exactly! How far are we removed from our sts experience? #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:41 PM |
@theteacherjames so u'd say that learning a FL isn't as helpful in understanding Eng better as actually teaching it? lets sum up :) #eltchat |
| elawassell |
9:41 PM |
@leoselivan oh yeah... that happened about Used = Vous . |
| sandymillin |
9:41 PM |
@Noreen_Lam #ELTchat I'm also a bad SS because I don't do much to keep up my langs now. But I'm honest w them and.. 1/2 |
| knolinfos |
9:42 PM |
concerning several languages: it's a big advantage 4 gathering #information on #Internet as also knowing mentality of others #ELTchat |
| leoselivan |
9:42 PM |
@elawassell not only. Lots of similarities in vocab too btw Fre & Spa #eltchat |
| anna_whitcher |
9:42 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: RT @theteacherjames: If we're sharing links, here's my own series of posts about my language learning experiences: http://t.co/6m15i11w ... |
| SueAnnan |
9:42 PM |
I think we gain empathy for our students if we are also learning something new. And they appreciate it #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:42 PM |
@leoselivan For me, definitely, but for others, maybe not. Vague enough summary for you? :-) #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:42 PM |
“@hmbaba: @sandymillin - and how well did that go down? #eltchat” What? Lost the thread... |
| AnnLoseva |
9:42 PM |
@BrunoELT as Eng is already L2 with us &many other tchrs-don't believe we don't enjoy reading a nice piece of smth aloud/or sing!))#eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:42 PM |
i'm a bad student in that I never do my HW. :) yet I make my Ss do it... #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:43 PM |
@Notyetlanguage the more nationalities you teach will help with that too #eltchat |
| hmbaba |
9:43 PM |
@sandymillin - you introducing tec into the class #eltchat |
| AnnLoseva |
9:43 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: RT @theteacherjames: If we're sharing links, here's my own series of posts about my language learning experiences: http://t.co/6m15i11w ... |
| AnnLoseva |
9:43 PM |
@SueAnnan @sandymillin ouch! #eltchat ofc these are not necessarily magically interconnected |
| leoselivan |
9:43 PM |
@theteacherjames yes I wanted your opinion :) #eltchat |
| Notyetlanguage |
9:43 PM |
If you learn and know more Ls, you have a better insight into interferences from Ss mother tongue or SL #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:43 PM |
@stephenburrows I can see how that would be helpful, but it's a big leap from that to getting a class reading aloud. #eltchat |
| teacherthom |
9:43 PM |
@leoselivan I'm raising a guilty hand to that one too! #eltchat |
| Noreen_Lam |
9:43 PM |
@sandymillin ..not as I do! ;) I tell them bout little things, like setting ur phone on FL, radio etc..achievable right? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:44 PM |
@leoselivan I bet we're all like that! #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:44 PM |
@Noreen_Lam achievable, but I still don't do them! #ELTchat My excuse is...too many languages ;) Which one should I put facebook in? |
| theteacherjames |
9:44 PM |
@AnnLoseva So share it with us! #eltchat |
| AnnLoseva |
9:44 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: If we take it a step sideways, any learner feels good abt having a T who is learning SOMEthing all the time #Eltchat |
| AnnLoseva |
9:44 PM |
@theteacherjames #eltchat I also have got one! (Post) |
| leoselivan |
9:44 PM |
@teacherthom naughty naughty! #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:45 PM |
RT @AnnLoseva: @SueAnnan #eltchat right, we are seen as humans then)) |
| leoselivan |
9:45 PM |
did learning a FL make anyone realise anything about Eng grammar and change the way u teach it ? #eltchat |
| AnnLoseva |
9:45 PM |
@SueAnnan #eltchat right, we are seen as humans then)) |
| theteacherjames |
9:45 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: RT @SueAnnan: I think we gain empathy for our students if we are also learning something new. And they appreciate it #ELTchat |
| shaznosel |
9:45 PM |
@SueAnnan Yes- empathy/having a similar experience to our ss is what matters and then changing/remembering how it felt and relating#eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:46 PM |
@theteacherjames sorry James - pls ignore my last tweet. I didn't realise it was about HW :) #eltchat |
| stephenburrows |
9:46 PM |
#eltchat was anyone especially good at languages before they became a language teacher? |
| Noreen_Lam |
9:46 PM |
@sueannan @Notyetlanguage Yes, but spkg the lang helps a LOT w/teaching pron. U can compare 2sim phonemes & Ss appreciate it a lot! #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:46 PM |
@theteacherjames that's the thing cos I think I've benefited a lot from actually learning languages I think... #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:46 PM |
@leoselivan the comparative side is interesting, true #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:46 PM |
@AnnLoseva @SueAnnan Spot on! We are human!! #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:46 PM |
RT @leoselivan: RT @leoselivan: did learning a FL make anyone realise anything about Eng grammar and change the way u teach it ? #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:47 PM |
Here's an old #eltchat summary 'How does your language learning influence your teaching?' http://t.co/Cde43k4s |
| stephenburrows |
9:47 PM |
#eltchat because I was particularly awful at FL during school. I now have 1 FL. |
| knolinfos |
9:47 PM |
@SueAnnan Hi, TRUE! Especially when YOU show them YOUR secret tool on how to do + give them a challenge 2 do better #ELTchat |
| AnnLoseva |
9:47 PM |
@theteacherjames #eltchat here's my story as of a Lang learner http://t.co/AiYg0B3S |
| hmbaba |
9:47 PM |
we were all probably successful learners - our sts may not be linguistically inclined so really do we and can we empathize? #eltchat |
| teacherthom |
9:47 PM |
@leoselivan Yes! at a certain level English all boils down to collocation. Other langs are generally much more structured #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:48 PM |
@leoselivan :-) Duly ignored! #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:48 PM |
@Marisa_C I've heard that one before :-) #ELTchat |
| shaznosel |
9:48 PM |
@stephenburrows I was good until I reached my older teens then lost the plot! So I relate to my adults!#ELTCHAT |
| theteacherjames |
9:48 PM |
RT @AnnLoseva: @theteacherjames #eltchat here's my story as a Lang learner http://t.co/l8WMmyQx |
| Marisa_C |
9:48 PM |
So who is prepared to teach us all a foreign language - I'm happy to offer a few hours of Greek online #ELTchat |
| leoselivan |
9:48 PM |
eg when learning Spa or Fre u realise how easy Eng verbs are - only 5 forms! while in Romance lang it's at least 5 forms in Present #eltchat |
| elawassell |
9:48 PM |
RT@AnnLoseva: as Eng is already L2 with us &many other tchrs-don't believe we don't enjoy reading a nice piece of sth aloud/or sing #eltchat |
| Noreen_Lam |
9:49 PM |
@sandymillin Tough choice! One for FB, one for Twitter, one for email, phone....etc... ;) Or rotate? Chinese is a pain2 type tho! #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:49 PM |
@Marisa_C About time i learnt Greek..I m in for it!#eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:49 PM |
@Marisa_C would love to brush up on my Greek #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:49 PM |
@SueAnnan I know - and where are the 2 and half mins for me to do - I can get Alexandra to to it tho she's a fab T #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:49 PM |
RT @tombarrett: The Neurochemistry of Empathy, #Storytelling, and the Dramatic Arc, Animated http://t.co/Wh9LH6R8 #ELTchat |
| AnnLoseva |
9:50 PM |
@Marisa_C I'm in too! #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
9:50 PM |
Learning German definitely helps me teach English. When I learned a new word suddenly everyone was saying it. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:50 PM |
Anyway - I've been writign some materials for book best try them out no? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:50 PM |
@Marisa_C I'm in then #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:51 PM |
Late night show? #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:51 PM |
RT @sandymillin: RT @sandymillin: Here's an old #eltchat summary 'How does your language learning influence your teaching?' http://t.co/Cde43k4s |
| shaznosel |
9:51 PM |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C You're in for greek? An experience for us all..how will we rate the T..I wonder?!#ELTCHAT |
| leoselivan |
9:51 PM |
@MarjorieRosenbe yes it's a common phenomenon. After formally learning a new word in class u start encountering it everywhere #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:51 PM |
@hmbaba Hmm, not sure I would categorise myself as a "successful learner"! #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:51 PM |
@Marisa_C I did :-) #ELTchat |
| sandymillin |
9:51 PM |
“@SueAnnan: @Marisa_C I've heard that one before :-) #ELTchat” Me too :) |
| Marisa_C |
9:51 PM |
@SueAnnan sign up quick before the offer expires :-) #ELTchat |
| elawassell |
9:52 PM |
@leoselivan I teach Polish as a FL as well - and I really appreciate how simple English is :-) takes me longer to prepare PL lesson #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:52 PM |
@Marisa_C What does that mean?? #eltchat |
| AnnLoseva |
9:52 PM |
#eltchat when I was learning German at uni I borrowed many interesting ideas and methods from my teacher - that as a point, too |
| theteacherjames |
9:52 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: So who is prepared to teach us all a foreign language - I'm happy to offer a few hours of Greek online #ELTchat |
| sandymillin |
9:52 PM |
RT @leoselivan: RT @leoselivan: @MarjorieRosenbe yes it's a common phenomenon. After formally learning a new word in class u start encountering it every ... |
| SueAnnan |
9:52 PM |
@Marisa_C Fine by me, best time really #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:52 PM |
@leoselivan That's true, I learned that! #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
9:52 PM |
Continuing with the word story, it was like I never heard words till I learned them. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:52 PM |
Only time #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:52 PM |
@theteacherjames I suppose if you can communicate, that is a kind of success #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:52 PM |
RT @leoselivan: RT @leoselivan: eg when learning Spa or Fre u realise how easy Eng verbs are - only 5 forms! while in Romance lang it's at least 5 forms ... |
| theteacherjames |
9:53 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: RT @SueAnnan: RT @tombarrett: The Neurochemistry of Empathy, #Storytelling, and the Dramatic Arc, Animated http://t.co/Wh9LH6R8 #ELTchat |
| annehodg |
9:53 PM |
RT @stiiiv: RT @stiiiv: Explicit T-ing of grammar trumps other appr's. Guardian. Holes in arg. but gd rdg http://t.co/sFYn8tJK #eltchat #eapchat MT ... |
| shaznosel |
9:53 PM |
@AnnLoseva Good point..the good and the bad! #eltchat |
| Notyetlanguage |
9:53 PM |
Another point - Knowing the root of the word (from S's 1st or 2nd lang.) helps the learner recognise the similarity #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
9:54 PM |
Also gave me insights to the difficulties in learning another language & how I had to learn not to translate every word. #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:54 PM |
@Marisa_C U mean late night Greek lessons?#eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:54 PM |
@elawassell cos of all the conjugations and noun cases I presume? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:54 PM |
As out #ELTchat is drawing to a close in a few minutes, let me please put the important question b4 u all go - Summary writer pls? |
| AnnLoseva |
9:54 PM |
#eltchat ofc now it's more difficult to be a learner as another teacher is inspected and there are chances there's smth not to like |
| SahalZyad |
9:54 PM |
RT @MarjorieRosenbe :Learning German definitely helps me teach English. When I learned a new word suddenly everyone was saying it. #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:54 PM |
another insight I gained fr learning FLs is survival techniques. eg using "want to" if u dont know future form - can advise Ss too #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:55 PM |
@SueAnnan :-) #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:55 PM |
@theteacherjames Me too, mate #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:55 PM |
@Marisa_C Got room for a real, true beginner? Don't want to hold the other sts back... #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:55 PM |
I'll do it #ELTchat |
| shaznosel |
9:56 PM |
@Marisa_C @theteacherjames I am a beginner - not lying! #eltchat |
| hmbaba |
9:56 PM |
@Marisa_C when r u doing the sessions? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:56 PM |
@Marisa_C Then I shall sign up in complete ignorance and readiness! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:56 PM |
RT @elawassell: @Marisa_C I can teach Polish if anybody is interested #eltchat :-) |
| SueAnnan |
9:56 PM |
@Marisa_C does a trip to Athens count? LOL #ELTchat |
| AnnLoseva |
9:56 PM |
@SueAnnan @theteacherjames same story #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:56 PM |
RT @leoselivan: RT @leoselivan: another insight I gained fr learning FLs is survival techniques. eg using "want to" if u dont know future form - can ad ... |
| elawassell |
9:56 PM |
@Marisa_C I can teach Polish if anybody is interested #eltchat :-) |
| leoselivan |
9:56 PM |
@MarjorieRosenbe that's what I always try tell my Ss and use examples of me saying things in FL which I cant translate into Eng #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:56 PM |
@theteacherjames Only for real true beginners - false beginners or liars not welcome :-D #ELTchat |
| AnnLoseva |
9:57 PM |
@BrunoELT strange but I don't see your tweets in #eltchat or anywhere aside my mention section |
| Marisa_C |
9:57 PM |
@SueAnnan good thing you told me lol #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:57 PM |
RT @elawassell: RT @elawassell: @Marisa_C I can teach Polish if anybody is interested #eltchat :-) |
| SueAnnan |
9:57 PM |
@Marisa_C which means what, exactly? BTW did you see I volunteered to write the summary? #eltchat |
| Noreen_Lam |
9:57 PM |
@notyetlanguage @SueAnnan Fab 4 phonemes that don't exist in ss' L1--u can tell them 2 imitate foreigners sayin X in their lang. :) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:57 PM |
First lesson next Wednesday after #ELTchat |
| Notyetlanguage |
9:57 PM |
@Marisa_C How are you going to teach Greek online? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:57 PM |
@hmbaba late at night #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:58 PM |
@hmbaba oh so sorry! it may be hard tfor me to do before - will check schedules and let all know #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:58 PM |
@SueAnnan Thanks for volunteering! #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:58 PM |
@shaznosel No I think I need some LOL #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:58 PM |
@elawassell @theteacherjames @Marisa_C One day..#eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:58 PM |
@Marisa_C How will you have time to do that? Teaching while you sleep? :-D #ELTchat |
| AnnLoseva |
9:58 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: First lesson next Wednesday after #ELTchat |
| shaznosel |
9:58 PM |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C You're a heroine! #eltchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
9:58 PM |
Helps as well with rapport when you tell students about your own mistakes and problems learning another language. #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:58 PM |
so tonight's summary should include a list of volunteers and FLs they're willing to teach. Already have Polish, Greek. Any others? #eltchat |
| hmbaba |
9:58 PM |
@Marisa_C ouch - that was too fast - u know I can't make it! #eltchat |
| teachernz |
9:59 PM |
RT @stiiiv: RT @stiiiv: Explicit T-ing of grammar trumps other appr's. Guardian. Holes in arg. but gd rdg http://t.co/sFYn8tJK #eltchat #eapchat MT ... |
| theteacherjames |
9:59 PM |
@Marisa_C That explains how you get so much done! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:59 PM |
So we have greek, polish and Croatian! #ELTchat |
| MarjorieRosenbe |
9:59 PM |
@leoselivan It's like magic. I still remember which word this was in German. # eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:59 PM |
@Notyetlanguage Wow. sounds interesting #eltchat |
| elawassell |
9:59 PM |
@leoselivan yes plus verbs declination and it also depends on gender, adjectives also take cases... Nightmare for Ls #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:59 PM |
@SueAnnan We love you!!<3 #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
9:59 PM |
RT @Noreen_Lam: @notyetlanguage @SueAnnan [...] -u can tell them 2 imitate foreigners sayin X in their lang. :) > good advice! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:59 PM |
RT @Notyetlanguage: @elawassell @Marisa_C I could teach a few hours of Croatian if anybody is interested:) #eltchat |
| Notyetlanguage |
9:59 PM |
@elawassell @Marisa_C I could teach a few hours of Croatian if anybody is interested:) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:59 PM |
@theteacherjames I don't sleep much #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:59 PM |
@theteacherjames you're welcome #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
10:00 PM |
Thanks everyone, especially the great mods. Excellent chat as usual :-)#ELTchat |
| shaznosel |
10:00 PM |
@theteacherjames @Marisa_C If only we had hours in the day..great opportunities here on #eltchat |
| hmbaba |
10:00 PM |
@Marisa_C hopefully in different time frames #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10:00 PM |
@theteacherjames sometimes I feel the opposite is true :-) #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
10:00 PM |
RT @Notyetlanguage: RT @Notyetlanguage: @elawassell @Marisa_C I could teach a few hours of Croatian if anybody is interested:) #eltchat |
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