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teacherphili

2:00P.M.

@yearinthelifeof Oral Presentation Skills methinks! #ELTchat

cioccas

2:00P.M.

RT @Shaunwilden: Welcome to #ELTchat on How can we teach our learners good oral presentation skills? ? I'm ready!

jankenb2

2:00P.M.

#eltchat Any EFL instructors from Vilnius? I am moving there next month. Hope to keep doing what I love EFL A preview:  http://t.co/rwTG5y7g

yearinthelifeof

2:00P.M.

@theteacherjames @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @teacherphili What's going on today? #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:00P.M.

Welcome all to #ELTchat - let's talk about how to teach presentation skills to GPE and EAP ESP students

Shaunwilden

2:00P.M.

Welcome to #ELTchat on How can we teach our learners good oral presentation skills?

worldteacher

2:01P.M.

RT @Shaunwilden: My gosh both me and @Marisa_C  here today :-) #ELTchat > We're honoured!!

cioccas

2:01P.M.

@Marisa_C Yes, I've already volunteered to do the summary of this #ELTchat

theteacherjames

2:01P.M.

@teflgeek @teacherphili Oi, behave yourselves! #eltchat

Shaunwilden

2:01P.M.

My gosh both me and @Marisa_C  here today :-) #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:01P.M.

@cioccas and doing the summary too I hope :-)  #ELTchat

yearinthelifeof

2:02P.M.

@teacherphili I love TBLT for presentations - here's how I do it, here's your task, now decide what you need from me to succeed #eltchat

Shaunwilden

2:02P.M.

The topic  was suggested @cioccas  btw #ELTchat

cioccas

2:02P.M.

I have a few resources on teaching presentation skills to share, hope to learn of some others too on #ELTchat

teacherphili

2:02P.M.

@cioccas @Marisa_C thought you might have ;-) #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:02P.M.

@Shaunwilden possibly last Wednesday this month for me for 1st  #ELTchat starting new course next week

jankenb2

2:02P.M.

@Marisa_C GPE? #eltchat Please translate I am not familiar with that acronym. Thanks.

teflgeek

2:03P.M.

Presentation skills development cycle = present, analyse, reflect #eltchat

Shaunwilden

2:03P.M.

@Marisa_C  I'll make the most of it then as I am not here this evening :-) #ELTchat

theteacherjames

2:03P.M.

@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Ready to step in, ma'am. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:04P.M.

So let's get going shall we? Who has suggestions on the how-to? #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

2:04P.M.

@yearinthelifeof Oh i wish :-) #ELTchat

cioccas

2:04P.M.

RT @teflgeek: Presentation skills development cycle = present, analyse, reflect #eltchat > But before the 'present' phase is?

yearinthelifeof

2:04P.M.

@Shaunwilden admit it, you're the doctor's new assistant, aren't you? #eltchat

yitzha_sarwono

2:04P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: Welcome all to #ELTchat - let's talk about how to teach presentation skills to GPE and EAP ESP students

teflgeek

2:05P.M.

@cioccas there can be input if necessary, but I don't think it always is. #eltchat

worldteacher

2:05P.M.

@cioccas plan, practise and perfect (verb, not adjective!) #eltchat

sandymillin

2:05P.M.

Here's my presentation on presentation skills for students...would make it a lot less dictatorial now tho! http://t.co/aSPqpuDc #ELTchat

waykatewit

2:05P.M.

RT @teflgeek: RT @teflgeek: @teacherphili maybe we should have an #eltchat revolution and just talk about mindfulness anyway...

Shaunwilden

2:06P.M.

@jankenb2 What do you mean by divide and conquer? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:06P.M.

here is a funny video - bad presentation - can be used with classes to work out how to get it right http://t.co/6T1DEeOe #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:06P.M.

Are we making a difference between oral skills & presentation skills as in CEFR? #eltchat

PatrickAndrews

2:06P.M.

@cioccas @teflgeek Presumably before is "anticipate" #ELTchat

yitzha_sarwono

2:06P.M.

@teflgeek How to start getting to presentation though? #eltchat

teflgeek

2:06P.M.

@cioccas or do you mean setting the task? which would probably be helpful ;)

jankenb2

2:06P.M.

Divide & conquer. 1st provide warm-up. For adv. intermediate I  presented a 4 line poem as a choral reading. Then did a QA. #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:07P.M.

RT @theteacherjames: I like to do a lot of pre-presentation analysis. Look at examples, analyse what works & what doesn't. #eltchat

teflgeek

2:07P.M.

@yitzha_sarwono not sure I understand - get the students to give a presentation on anything they like? #eltchat

sandymillin

2:07P.M.

And here are some links to good/bad presentations I've found on YouTube http://t.co/Rbbjps6t #eltchat My fave is"Life after death by PPoint"

cioccas

2:07P.M.

@MarjorieRosenbe  Both for me  #ELTchat

theteacherjames

2:07P.M.

I like to do a lot of pre-presentation analysis. Look at examples, analyse what works & what doesn't. #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:08P.M.

RT @yearinthelifeof: @Marisa_C Start with a model - ss will then have an idea of  what's expected #eltchat

yearinthelifeof

2:08P.M.

@theteacherjames I think giving an idea of what's expected through modeling is a great way to start #eltchat

annehodg

2:08P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: Welcome all to #ELTchat - let's talk about how to teach presentation skills to GPE and EAP ESP students

teacherphili

2:08P.M.

Can I add my discussion of @MyBrainshark as an excellent tool for getting students to practice oral skills? http://t.co/i3dWArl4 #ELTchat

teflgeek

2:08P.M.

@PatrickAndrews @cioccas yes - fair point! #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:08P.M.

RT @sandymillin: some links to good/bad presentations I've found on YouTube http://t.co/BmN6Q0gs  #eltchat

vilnius_bot

2:08P.M.

#eltchat Any EFL instructors from Vilnius? I am moving there next month. Hope to keep doing what I love EFL A... http://t.co/1Itfaf7b #VNO

teacherphili

2:08P.M.

Can I add my discussion of @MyBrainshark as an excellent tool for getting students to practice oral skills? @sandymillin #ELTchat

cioccas

2:08P.M.

Terrific Australian resource (DVD + worksheets) for teaching pres skills to int ESL learners: http://t.co/i8TR6UZR  #ELTchat

yearinthelifeof

2:08P.M.

@Marisa_C Start with a model - ss will then have an idea of  what's expected #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:09P.M.

RT @michaelegriffin: #ELTchat 1 thing I ve done is give Ss task of giving "worst presentation ever" ...then work out criteria

cioccas

2:09P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: Some TED talks can be great examples of what a good presentation out to be methinks #ELTchat <Great, but maybe too good :-)

sandymillin

2:09P.M.

Have to go and do some work now. Enjoy #eltchat

Shaunwilden

2:09P.M.

@teacherphili  Agreed, my brainshark is an excellent tool, one thing about Web is that there are lots of ways to practice speaking #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:09P.M.

Some TED talks can be great examples of what a good presentation out to be methinks #ELTchat

michaelegriffin

2:09P.M.

#ELTchat 1 thing I ve done is give Ss task of giving "worst presentation ever" and then seeing what they do and using this for good criteria

cioccas

2:09P.M.

@yearinthelifeof @Marisa_C Would like to know of what other Ts use as good models - videos on YouTube for example #ELTchat

cioccas

2:10P.M.

@Marisa_C @teflgeek Yes, agree #ELTchat

teacherphili

2:10P.M.

@Shaunwilden and 'PresentMe' is also good, simpler. http://t.co/r9whpVs2 #ELTchat

waykatewit

2:10P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: Some TED talks can be great examples of what a good presentation out to be methinks #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:10P.M.

When doing sts presentations I don't allow rhem to reaf from notes or slides. They need 2 practice before in order to speak freely. #eltchat

PatrickAndrews

2:10P.M.

@Marisa_C TED talks can be useful.  Can be quite varied #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:10P.M.

RT @teflgeek: @cioccas @Marisa_C agree some can be difficult model to follow! #eltchat > sure but great for advanced Ss - no?

cioccas

2:10P.M.

@yitzha_sarwono @teflgeek Yes, that's what I was thinking too #ELTchat

teflgeek

2:10P.M.

@cioccas @Marisa_C agree some can be difficult model to follow! #eltchat

yitzha_sarwono

2:10P.M.

@teflgeek well your cycle starts with 'present' and I'm wondering shouldn't be anything before it? like discussing or so? #eltchat

Shaunwilden

2:11P.M.

@MarjorieRosenbe I dont agree with that, we often use notes in real life so why prevent them in class #ELTchat

jankenb2

2:11P.M.

@Shaunwilden #eltchat- perform task analysis on overall assignment. Break down subgoals. Speaking > novel lang>planning>present= 4 subskills

theteacherjames

2:11P.M.

@yearinthelifeof I think it's essential. How can you know what to do unless you see someone else do it first? #eltchat

PatrickAndrews

2:11P.M.

@cioccas @Marisa_C Also not quite sure it is easy to define what is good - academic presentations are different from business ones #ELTchat

teacherphili

2:11P.M.

@MarjorieRosenbe Ed Milliband's recent conference speech!! without notes!! #ELTchat

theteacherjames

2:11P.M.

RT @yearinthelifeof: RT @yearinthelifeof: @theteacherjames I think giving an idea of what's expected through modeling is a great way to start #eltchat

teflgeek

2:12P.M.

@cioccas @yitzha_sarwono but tend to do input on good and bad presentations reactively rather than initially #eltchat

theteacherjames

2:12P.M.

RT @michaelegriffin: RT @michaelegriffin: #ELTchat 1 thing I ve done is give Ss task of giving "worst presentation ever" and then seeing what they do and usi ...

teflgeek

2:12P.M.

@cioccas @yitzha_sarwono Ok, I don't usually ask learners to present blind - there is preparation time beforehand, #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:12P.M.

With my advanced Ss and student-teachers I use PKs - 20 slides 20'' each but can start with 5 or 6 #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:12P.M.

@Marisa_C @michaelegriffin Have done this as well. Make them give feedback on what went wrong & how they felt warching. #eltchat

waykatewit

2:12P.M.

RT @teacherphili: RT @teacherphili: @Shaunwilden and 'PresentMe' is also good, simpler. http://t.co/r9whpVs2 #ELTchat

waykatewit

2:13P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: With my advanced Ss and student-teachers I use PKs - 20 slides 20'' each but can start with 5 or 6 #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:13P.M.

But many academics yawn inducers when just reading out their slides #ELTchat

worldteacher

2:13P.M.

@Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe I allow notes - just don't let them read the whole thing.  Making notes is a skill in itself. #eltchat

theteacherjames

2:13P.M.

@Marisa_C Definitely. Here's one example of a TED talk I used: http://t.co/pOp0m5IL #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:13P.M.

@PatrickAndrews Makes sense then to fit model of good to needs of Ss - if academic or for business  #ELTchat

teflgeek

2:13P.M.

@cioccas @yitzha_sarwono then learners can apply the input to their own experience, makes it more relevant #eltchat

PatrickAndrews

2:13P.M.

@Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe Think short notes are a good idea but need to be short. #ELTchat

waykatewit

2:13P.M.

@Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe It depends on if they just mumble from notes, or use them to efectively speak (as reminders) #ELTchat

cioccas

2:13P.M.

BBC Skillswise have a one-minute video and quizzes  on presentations http://t.co/QADkmhlE  #ELTchat

cioccas

2:14P.M.

@worldteacher @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe Notes yes! Have had Ss do whole thing from memory (rote), can be painful #ELTchat

PatrickAndrews

2:14P.M.

@Marisa_C Yes #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:14P.M.

I encourage them 2 tell each other what they liked & would like to learn 2 do. See feedback form in In Business. #eltchat

jankenb2

2:14P.M.

@Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe #eltchat- move from conversation to presentation of group. It is best when subtle. Begin w/how 2's they know.

MrChrisJWilson

2:14P.M.

woops a little bit late. What's the #eltchat topic?

PatrickAndrews

2:14P.M.

@teflgeek @cioccas @yitzha_sarwono Also won't research on the content be important? #ELTchat

waykatewit

2:14P.M.

RT @PatrickAndrews: RT @PatrickAndrews: @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe Think short notes are a good idea but need to be short. #ELTchat

worldteacher

2:15P.M.

@cioccas yes - and stilted with lots of eyes to the ceiling as they struggle to remember their words!! #eltchat

willnolannet

2:15P.M.

RT @sandymillin: RT @sandymillin: And here are some links to good/bad presentations I've found on YouTube http://t.co/Rbbjps6t #eltchat My fave is"Life a ...

teacherphili

2:15P.M.

@MarjorieRosenbe Ed Milliband's conference speech from yesterday #ELTchat http://t.co/i3dWArl4 without notes!!

michaelegriffin

2:15P.M.

@MarjorieRosenbe @Marisa_C :) Right...It seems much safer (and fun!) to start out trying to be bad. #ELTchat

PatrickAndrews

2:15P.M.

@Marisa_C Also within those, there can be different functions - eg explaining, persuading #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:15P.M.

So we agree that criteria may be different depending on the target audience? #ELTchat

cioccas

2:15P.M.

@PatrickAndrews @teflgeek @yitzha_sarwono Research topic, yes! #ELTchat

waykatewit

2:15P.M.

@MrChrisJWilson presentations #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

2:15P.M.

@Marisa_C Oh yes I wasnt saying be a lecturer, but notes are useful not least as an aide memoire #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:16P.M.

Beauty of PKs is that they need to be rehearsed-so they can be used as an end of term/crse project & for assessmet purposes too #eltchat

yitzha_sarwono

2:16P.M.

@cioccas @PatrickAndrews @teflgeek agree on it :-) #ELTchat

teacherphili

2:16P.M.

Death by Power Point ;-) #ELTchat @sandymillin

yearinthelifeof

2:16P.M.

@theteacherjames True - plus then you can allow them to develop as they wish without too strict a framework #eltchat

cioccas

2:16P.M.

How to Give a Good Presentation - video made by ESL Ss - quite good for my adult migrant Ss http://t.co/KHw9jbFX #ELTchat

yitzha_sarwono

2:16P.M.

@worldteacher @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe true! And it keeps them on track #ELTchat

jankenb2

2:16P.M.

@worldteacher @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe #eltchat....If it requires notes then- A)  talk is too long, B) is more than 5 slides....No & no

MarjorieRosenbe

2:16P.M.

We also practice establishing rapport with audience by using VAK language. #eltchat

Julian_LEnfant

2:17P.M.

#eltchat Due to time constraints what about Ss putting their prezis on Blackboard & then have peer reviews online?

Marisa_C

2:17P.M.

Get them to record themselves and listen on their own or with peers #ELTchat - insert pauses where missing :-)

waykatewit

2:17P.M.

@jankenb2 @worldteacher @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe notes simply calm them down/ They may not really need them. Psychol

PatrickAndrews

2:17P.M.

@teacherphili @sandymillin Seen some by prezi - seems better #ELTchat

leoselivan

2:17P.M.

RT @cioccas: RT @cioccas: BBC Skillswise have a one-minute video and quizzes  on presentations http://t.co/QADkmhlE  #ELTchat

teacherphili

2:17P.M.

RT @worldteacher @MarjorieRosenbe Feedback from peers as well as from the teacher #eltchat > Agreed. Have done this students

jankenb2

2:17P.M.

@worldteacher @cioccas What is more impt? Comfort in front of audience or quality of content. I think comfort...so 1 goal at a time #eltchat

Shaunwilden

2:17P.M.

@jankenb2 @worldteacher @MarjorieRosenbe  I teach business men who do presentation so yes and yes  #ELTchat

teflgeek

2:17P.M.

@PatrickAndrews @cioccas @yitzha_sarwono to an extent, but think that strays from developing presentation skills per se #eltchat

theteacherjames

2:17P.M.

@jankenb2 @worldteacher @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe But I teach business people and they have to make 20/30 min presentations. #eltchat

worldteacher

2:17P.M.

@MarjorieRosenbe Feedback from peers as well as from the teacher is very important - reflecting on others helps their performance. #eltchat

cioccas

2:17P.M.

@worldteacher Or they just spew out the words without taking a breath! #ELTchat

worldteacher

2:18P.M.

RT @waykatewit: @jankenb2 @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe notes simply calm them down/ They may not really need them.

Marisa_C

2:18P.M.

Get them to write out trinscript of preso and mark down pauses one / sor short pause two // for longer pause - breathe!!! #eltchat

cioccas

2:18P.M.

@teflgeek @PatrickAndrews @yitzha_sarwono Researching the topic is part of the package for students at my college #ELTchat

annehodg

2:18P.M.

@Marisa_C @PatrickAndrews Groups create an assessment grid based on a presentation they choose  - TED, Harvard - then share #eltchat

CLERAatAston

2:18P.M.

#ELTchat NOW: How can we teach our learners good oral presentation skills https://t.co/Wj0UEH3S

BobK99

2:18P.M.

RT @cioccas: RT @Marisa_C: Some TED talks can be great examples.... #ELTchat <Great, but maybe too good :-) >>Gd pt . Aim 2  high  - Icarus!

MarjorieRosenbe

2:18P.M.

@worldteacher @cioccas But reading notes verbatim and mispronouncing words is awful as well. #eltchat Put key words on cards to help.

waykatewit

2:19P.M.

RT @MrChrisJWilson: RT @MrChrisJWilson: #eltchat has anyone mentioned finding a "role model" and copying aspects that you like about them?

Shaunwilden

2:19P.M.

@Julian_LEnfant  Good idea, especially since they can also record themselves and use that :-) #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:19P.M.

@Krisawal yes #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:19P.M.

@BrunoELT Agree ctiteria may be different. CAE prep includes moving to outcome, active listening & responding. #eltchat

jankenb2

2:19P.M.

@waykatewit @worldteacher @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe Yes, only if the notes are true notes, not narratives. Impt. distinction. #eltchat

MrChrisJWilson

2:19P.M.

#eltchat has anyone mentioned finding a "role model" and copying aspects that you like about them?

cioccas

2:19P.M.

RT @annehodg:  Groups create an assessment grid based on a presentation they choose  - TED, Harvard - then share #eltchat <Great idea!

PatrickAndrews

2:19P.M.

@waykatewit @jankenb2 @worldteacher @Shaunwilden @MarjorieRosenbe Yes and I used to find that about lesson plans #ELTchat

MrChrisJWilson

2:20P.M.

@teflgeek @cioccas but if you know it is well researched then it provides confidence when presenting? #eltchat

Shaunwilden

2:20P.M.

@jankenb2 Oh yes we agree here #ELTchat

languagebubble

2:20P.M.

RT @michaelegriffin: RT @michaelegriffin: #ELTchat 1 thing I ve done is give Ss task of giving "worst presentation ever" and then seeing what they do and usi ...

theteacherjames

2:20P.M.

I treat pres like essays - first draft; changes & reflection; second draft; changes, feedback & reflection; final draft; reflection #eltchat

teflgeek

2:20P.M.

@cioccas not saying it's not important, but that's content learning, more than presentation skills - no? #eltchat

teacherphili

2:20P.M.

@PatrickAndrews @sandymillin Prezi is great but more complex.  A good Prezi is the one by David White on residents and visitors #ELTchat

cioccas

2:21P.M.

Oral Presentations in the ESL Classroom Using a Technique Similar to Speed Dating http://t.co/kBoyn9Sz #ELTchat

waykatewit

2:21P.M.

@theteacherjames #ELTchat that's what I do, too

theteacherjames

2:22P.M.

@Marisa_C I did a whole lesson recently about the the spaces between words & sentences, and why they are there. Very interesting. #eltchat

waykatewit

2:22P.M.

@cioccas that is my favourite technique #ELTchat

MrChrisJWilson

2:22P.M.

#eltchat have any teachers "done" their students presentation? I've never tried it but suspect it could help.

PatrickAndrews

2:22P.M.

@theteacherjames I think this is good practice.  Also perhaps students need awareness of purposes of presentations #ELTchat

teacherphili

2:22P.M.

Example of a good Prezi in action which I came across researching my dissertation: http://t.co/zdOx1H7G #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:22P.M.

also talk about SIZE!!!!! of fonts on slides of course - no eeky timy fonts pls #eltchat

cioccas

2:22P.M.

@MrChrisJWilson @teflgeek Agree, and the research part is something we teach in conjunction with the actual presenting #ELTchat

theteacherjames

2:23P.M.

@BrunoELT Cheers - it's really effective I think, encourages deep analysis. #eltchat

teflgeek

2:23P.M.

@worldteacher agree - stress and pause in connected speech #eltchat

cioccas

2:23P.M.

@waykatewit  Ooh, can you share your experience with this? #ELTchat

worldteacher

2:23P.M.

Pron is really important for successful oral presentations. We teach comprehensive pron courses across all levels. #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:23P.M.

@theteacherjames might be a good idea to get them to time pauses in a good pres #eltchat

teflgeek

2:23P.M.

@cioccas @MrChrisJWilson revised cycle:  research - drafting - presentation - analysis - reflection ? #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:23P.M.

@teflgeek @cioccas Good question. Some of worst presentations I've seen were from NS. They knew content but couldn't get it across. #eltchat

BobK99

2:24P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: ...s I use PKs - 20 slides 20'' each but can start with 5 or 6 #eltchat> ' PK's? Is that Info Mapping-speak - Procs & Knowldg?

theteacherjames

2:24P.M.

@Krisawal Thanks! #ELTchat

cioccas

2:24P.M.

@teflgeek @MrChrisJWilson That's getting more like it :-) #ELTchat

MrChrisJWilson

2:24P.M.

@BrunoELT well they give you the content of the presentation and you deliver it (to them) so they can see what you do. #eltchat

theteacherjames

2:25P.M.

@Marisa_C Yes, they can be surprised by what they see. Also useful to look at the reasons: humour, drama, time to think etc. #eltchat

cioccas

2:25P.M.

@teflgeek @worldteacher Definitely, good pronunciation focus! #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:25P.M.

My "Given vs New" info lesson #ELTchat http://t.co/tqB3BCDi

waykatewit

2:25P.M.

#ELTchat  @cioccas I call it Speaker's corner, SS in the 4 corners present, then those who listen ask them questions, then I give feeback

MrChrisJWilson

2:25P.M.

@BrunoELT #eltchat they can then critique what you do and gain some confidence for doing their own. Or it might set a bar they can't attain?

MarjorieRosenbe

2:25P.M.

Great activitu in CLIL book. Students choose topic but others write the questions. Have to think on their feet to answer. #eltchat

PatrickAndrews

2:26P.M.

@Marisa_C Given/new and theme/rheme are very important, I think. #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

2:26P.M.

RT @waykatewit: #ELTchat I call it Speaker's corner, SS in the 4 corners present, then those who listen ask them quess, then I give fback

cioccas

2:26P.M.

@waykatewit Thanks, will give more thought to how I can use that later #ELTchat

BobK99

2:26P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: But many academics yawn inducers when just reading out their slides #ELTchat >Yes, too often prez=Brain-dump with slides!

yesseniacgr

2:26P.M.

@Julian_LEnfant  #eltchat  Putting presentations on Blackboard is a great idea. For live presentations use present.me

waykatewit

2:26P.M.

@cioccas that happens 4 times, ones presenting rehearse the same 4 times, better & better, the ones listening will hear 4 speeches #ELTchat

yitzha_sarwono

2:26P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: My "Given vs New" info lesson #ELTchat http://t.co/tqB3BCDi

teflgeek

2:26P.M.

my main problem with student presentations is keeping other students interested during #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:26P.M.

@theteacherjames @Marisa_C Sounds fascinating. I also remind them to stop & take a breath. #eltchat

theteacherjames

2:27P.M.

@Krisawal True, luckily for me I teach bus eng 1-1, so I don't have that pressure. #ELTchat

worldteacher

2:27P.M.

RT @cioccas: @teflgeek Definitely, good pronunciation focus! #ELTchat Yes - we include voice projection, too - needed 4 our Asian students!

waykatewit

2:28P.M.

@worldteacher @cioccas @teflgeek I find 2 many foci in presentation overwhelming.  I do  one improvement at a time, several times #ELTchat

PatrickAndrews

2:28P.M.

@worldteacher @cioccas @teflgeek Often research will lead to students acquiring vocab through reading ....#ELTchat

jankenb2

2:28P.M.

#eltchat 4 adv-intermed I ask each Ss to A) endorse a Turkish product B) present sales on hypothetic product- 5 slides+1graph & research ++

worldteacher

2:28P.M.

@teflgeek Give them something to do - some kind of evaluation sheet or q & a worksheet to force them to take notice! #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:28P.M.

@cioccas Speed presenting, great idea. A bit like snowball vocab or story telling. #eltchat

teflgeek

2:28P.M.

@worldteacher @cioccas I use Aragorn's speech from Lord of Rings to show learners how to slow down and use pause as a tool #eltchat

cioccas

2:28P.M.

@worldteacher: ...we include voice projection, too - needed 4 our Asian students! < Ideas /tips for teaching this? #ELTchat

theteacherjames

2:28P.M.

RT @teflgeek: my main problem with student presentations is keeping other students interested during #eltchat >> Any suggestions?

waykatewit

2:29P.M.

@theteacherjames @teflgeek SS make notes and then interview the presenter to clarify details after the present #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:29P.M.

@worldteacher @teflgeek Right. But srs only allowed to give pos f/b. I give corrections. #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:29P.M.

RT @teflgeek I find 2 many foci in presentation overwhelming.  I do  one improvement at a time, several times #ELTchat > gd point

teflgeek

2:29P.M.

@worldteacher I try that, but it's tricky getting them (a) to focus (b) be critical of their peers #eltchat

PatrickAndrews

2:29P.M.

@worldteacher @cioccas @teflgeek ...and therefore need to learn pron.  I try to stress this when students are preparing #ELTchat

waykatewit

2:29P.M.

RT @theteacherjames: RT @theteacherjames: RT @teflgeek: my main problem with student presentations is keeping other students interested during #eltchat >& ...

Marisa_C

2:29P.M.

@cioccas deliver ur talk to a wall :-)  #ELTchat

cioccas

2:29P.M.

@waykatewit Excellent, thanks! #ELTchat

jankenb2

2:29P.M.

RT @MarjorieRosenbe: RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @cioccas Speed presenting, great idea. A bit like snowball vocab or story telling. #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:30P.M.

RT @teflgeek: @theteacherjames like @worldteacher said - evaluation sheet of some kind #eltchat > e.g. posture, voice projection, pron...

yesseniacgr

2:30P.M.

@teflgeek  #eltchat  have you tried proposing Ss do interactive presentations? A bit like workshops

teflgeek

2:30P.M.

@theteacherjames like @worldteacher said - evaluation sheet of some kind #eltchat

PatrickAndrews

2:30P.M.

@theteacherjames @teflgeek Yes, can be a problem in EAP classes where students are studying different subjects. #ELTchat

michaelegriffin

2:30P.M.

@teflgeek I like to have students responsible for giving comments/filling out rubric #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:30P.M.

@BrunoELT for voice projection #ELTchat

worldteacher

2:30P.M.

@cioccas Classroom layout in our uni means we can present in one room to people in another (or on the landing!) #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:31P.M.

@Raquel_EFL oral presentation skills - welcome  #eltchat

waykatewit

2:31P.M.

@teflgeek @worldteacher why not do it at different lessons? Critical one time, just asking questions another #ELTchat

teflgeek

2:31P.M.

@yesseniacgr nice idea - st led workshops!  #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:31P.M.

@teflgeek @worldteacher This is why focusing on sth they want to learn from speaker is helpful. #eltchat

worldteacher

2:31P.M.

@cioccas Sts experiment with voice projection - how much/accurately can their classmates hear? #eltchat

waykatewit

2:32P.M.

RT @cioccas: RT @cioccas: BBC Skillswise video I mentioned earlier has good ex of non-academic presentation http://t.co/QADkmhlE  #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:32P.M.

@theteacherjames @teflgeek Give them job to do. Write 1new fact or most interesting bit or new phrase or word. #eltchat

worldteacher

2:32P.M.

RT @jankenb2: @cioccas @worldteacher Yes, and do you practice pronunciation too? >Absolutely!! #eltchat

Julian_LEnfant

2:32P.M.

@BobK99 @marisa_c I agree. PowerPoint/Prezi etc. should be used as a tool not a crutch- not just reading slides. #eltchat

waykatewit

2:32P.M.

RT @teflgeek: RT @teflgeek: @yesseniacgr nice idea - st led workshops!  #eltchat

theteacherjames

2:32P.M.

@PatrickAndrews @teflgeek @worldteacher Ask every student to have one question to ask at the end. They don't know who you'll pick. #ELTchat

cioccas

2:32P.M.

BBC Skillswise video I mentioned earlier has good ex of non-academic presentation http://t.co/QADkmhlE  #ELTchat

worldteacher

2:33P.M.

RT @theteacherjames: @teflgeek Ask every student to have one question to ask at the end. They don't know who you'll pick. #ELTchat > Yes!!!

cioccas

2:33P.M.

I've also got Ss to do digital story to prepare for their pres'ns - covers lots of points without the stress of presenting #ELTchat

waykatewit

2:33P.M.

RT @MarjorieRosenbe: RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @theteacherjames @teflgeek Give them job to do. Write 1new fact or most interesting bit or new phrase or word. #eltchat

teflgeek

2:33P.M.

@MarjorieRosenbe giving them a task is important - keeping them on task and NOT worrying about their own presentations even more so #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:33P.M.

Also give ur ss links for finding good images #Eltchat

waykatewit

2:33P.M.

@theteacherjames @PatrickAndrews @teflgeek @worldteacher I think SS should be GENUINELY interested, not MADE to listen :) #ELTchat

teacherphili

2:33P.M.

I would like to add that being #mindful is a good way for Ss to prepare themselves for presentations (what an interesting idea) ;-) #ELTchat

cioccas

2:34P.M.

RT @worldteacher: ... we can present in one room to people in another (or on the landing!) #eltchat <Can't picture that!?

PatrickAndrews

2:34P.M.

@theteacherjames @teflgeek @worldteacher I can see that can work to some extent but it does not necessarily make them interested #ELTchat

yesseniacgr

2:34P.M.

@teflgeek  #eltchat think it would take some of the pressure off

teflgeek

2:34P.M.

@waykatewit how do you go about generating genuine interest??? #eltchat

waykatewit

2:35P.M.

@teflgeek :) by picking really interesting topics? by raising their interest before every new presentation? Any other suggestions? #ELTchat

BobK99

2:35P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: @cioccas deliver ur talk to a wall :-)  #ELTchat > Or a mirror!

teacherphili

2:35P.M.

I once asked Ss to #tweet their questions and comments during a presentation using an appropriate hashtag #ELTchat Worked well!

worldteacher

2:35P.M.

@waykatewit: I think SS should be GENUINELY interested, not MADE to listen :) #ELTchat > Ideally - yes, but not always possible!

jankenb2

2:35P.M.

@michaelegriffin @teflgeek Gr8 As extension hve Ss give presentation & 4 FB ask audience 2 select intended obj frm a prepared list? #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:36P.M.

@Raquel_EFL you mean not anxious or afraid? I think rehearsing is key  #eltchat

PatrickAndrews

2:36P.M.

@waykatewit @teflgeek Maybe by encouraging pre-listening tasks? #ELTchat

theteacherjames

2:36P.M.

@waykatewit @PatrickAndrews @teflgeek @worldteacher Tough to make them interested, depends on the pres. Attentive more realistic. #ELTchat

waykatewit

2:36P.M.

RT @BobK99: RT @BobK99: RT @Marisa_C: @cioccas deliver ur talk to a wall :-)  #ELTchat > Or a mirror!

teflgeek

2:36P.M.

@waykatewit ask learners to select topics of interest then allocate these topics to the learners who didn't choose them?  #eltchat

cioccas

2:36P.M.

@teacherphili Great idea, wish my Ss were that switched on to tech! #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

2:36P.M.

@Raquel_EFL @Marisa_C safe? #ELTchat

worldteacher

2:36P.M.

@cioccas I'll send you photos!!  :-)  #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:36P.M.

@waykatewit Yes. They should want to listen. Choosing topics they want can help or giving them task. #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:37P.M.

@cioccas voice amplifies #ELTchat

teflgeek

2:37P.M.

RT @BrightAire - embed peer feedback/assessment. Get grp to agree own success criteria before to promote ownership. #eltchat - nice!

yitzha_sarwono

2:37P.M.

@worldteacher @theteacherjames @teflgeek love the idea! #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:37P.M.

talking to the wall is an exercise in voice projection #ELTchat

PatrickAndrews

2:37P.M.

@waykatewit @teflgeek In EAP context, topics should be based on needs and presenters interests rather than interests of audience #ELTchat

theteacherjames

2:37P.M.

@BrightAire @teflgeek Agree that students should decide on the criteria on which they are evaluated, with guidance of course. #eltchat

waykatewit

2:37P.M.

RT @PatrickAndrews: RT @PatrickAndrews: @waykatewit @teflgeek Maybe by encouraging pre-listening tasks? #ELTchat

cioccas

2:37P.M.

@BobK99 @Marisa_C I'm not sure how talking to a wall or mirror helps with voice projection? #ELTchat

teacherphili

2:37P.M.

@cioccas It was in Saudi Arabia. All Ss had blackberries, iPads or similar device kept them #engaged in what was being said #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:37P.M.

@worldteacher @theteacherjames @teflgeek Great idea about the questions. Will try that one out. #eltchat

jankenb2

2:37P.M.

#eltchat Actually, oral speaking is easiest as argumentation topic. We all have thoughts and beliefs. Select gd debate topic like TV & kids

teflgeek

2:37P.M.

RT @BobK99: RT @Marisa_C: @cioccas deliver ur talk to a wall :-)  #ELTchat > Or a mirror! - or a webcam?

waykatewit

2:37P.M.

@BobK99 @Marisa_C @cioccas talking to a wall will be easier ) mirror is the nest step of training )))) #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

2:38P.M.

@Raquel_EFL @Marisa_C @eltchat Yes i am just not sure what it means here #ELTchat

PatrickAndrews

2:38P.M.

@theteacherjames @waykatewit @teflgeek @worldteacher Like the word attentive :-).  Good point #ELTchat

cioccas

2:38P.M.

@Marisa_C Will have to try that to see how it works! #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:38P.M.

@teflgeek @waykatewit Product presentation or idead about institution etc. Only one will be chosen at end. #eltchat

waykatewit

2:38P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: talking to the wall is an exercise in voice projection #ELTchat

MrChrisJWilson

2:38P.M.

@BrunoELT I'm not sure either, it was an idea I was wondering about #eltchat

worldteacher

2:38P.M.

@theteacherjames Attentive - yes.  Interested - if they're not, they need to be encouraged to say why not - constructive feedback #eltchat

Shaunwilden

2:38P.M.

@Marisa_C Oh it was cos you had no friends ;-) #ELTchat

theteacherjames

2:38P.M.

RT @BrightAire: @teflgeek - embed peer feedback/assessment. Get grp to agree own success criteria before to promote ownership. #eltchat

cioccas

2:39P.M.

@Raquel_EFL @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C  Sounds similar to somehting I've done too #eltchat

theteacherjames

2:39P.M.

@yitzha_sarwono @worldteacher Thanks! #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:39P.M.

I also do presenting for specific target audience. Sts say at end which audience it was for and why. #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:39P.M.

@cioccas another exercise is using ur two hands - cup ur ear and join palms - a natural amplifier  #ELTchat

BobK99

2:39P.M.

@cioccas  #ELTchat Distant wall? My conductor always tells the choir to sing to someone in the back row.

yitzha_sarwono

2:39P.M.

Hehe I did that, sometimes even to work on teaching new things RT @Marisa_C: talking to the wall is an exercise in voice projection #ELTchat

waykatewit

2:40P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: @cioccas another exercise is using ur two hands - cup ur ear and join palms - a natural amplifier  #ELTchat

worldteacher

2:40P.M.

RT @teacherphili: I would like to add that being #mindful is a good way for Ss to prepare themselves for presentations  ;-) #ELTchat :-) :-)

Julian_LEnfant

2:40P.M.

RT @teacherphili: RT @teacherphili: I once asked Ss to #tweet their questions and comments during a presentation using an appropriate hashtag #ELTchat Wor ...

waykatewit

2:40P.M.

@MrChrisJWilson I have, sure. They write draft, we correct, I ppresent, they observe, they try  #ELTchat

teflgeek

2:40P.M.

@PatrickAndrews true - which would hopefully generate interest & attention! #eltchat

jankenb2

2:40P.M.

@teflgeek @BobK99 @Marisa_C @cioccas  For some but not me. Hmm how about writing out narrative then reading it, then tossing it?  #eltchat

BobK99

2:41P.M.

RT @teflgeek: RT @BobK99: RT @Marisa_C: @cioccas ...to a wall :-)  #ELTchat > Or a mirror! - or a webcam?: webcam btr for refln (if red'd)

theteacherjames

2:41P.M.

RT @BrightAire: @theteacherjames @teflgeek - absolutely. Encourage them to have high expects of themselves and each other. #eltchat

theteacherjames

2:41P.M.

@BrightAire Agreed (Don't forget the #eltchat hashtag!)

Marisa_C

2:41P.M.

I've done some voice training - that's how i learnt these tricks :-) was going to be an opera singer if only i had persevered!!! #ELTchat

teacherphili

2:41P.M.

seems to me that getting Ss to be relaxed before they present is half the battle #mindfulness #ELTchat

teflgeek

2:41P.M.

@teacherphili rebel....  careful you don't subvert the established order ;) #eltchat

Shaunwilden

2:42P.M.

right sorry to #ELTchat and run but parents coming to stay so best go pick 'em up, see you all l8r

teflgeek

2:42P.M.

@BobK99 webcam also good for sharing - self reflection and peer feedback and means can all be done outside classtime #eltchat

teacherphili

2:42P.M.

Also seems to me that practice makes, if not perfect then at least, better #ELTchat @mybrainshark @presentdotme

jankenb2

2:42P.M.

@MrChrisJWilson #eltchat, I do if the topic is broad enough to allow 4 other choices. Ex: Topic = transportation issues. My demo? seatbelts

teflgeek

2:43P.M.

RT @cioccas: @BobK99 @teflgeek @Marisa_C Okay, maybe if there was a recorder - can see a use for S's mobile phones here  #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:43P.M.

@cioccas nice idea - yes  #ELTchat

theteacherjames

2:43P.M.

@cioccas @Raquel_EFL @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Tackling anxiety? Lots of practice & build up to the main presentation slowly. #eltchat

cioccas

2:43P.M.

@Shaunwilden Bye Shaun #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:43P.M.

RT @teacherphili: Also seems to me that practice makes, if not perfect then at least, better #ELTchat @mybrainshark @presentdotme > indeed!

cioccas

2:43P.M.

@BobK99 @teflgeek @Marisa_C Okay, maybe if there was a recorder - can see a use for S's mobile phones here  #ELTchat

cioccas

2:44P.M.

@teflgeek @BobK99 @Marisa_C Using a FLIP camera was good to encourage them to speak up as it is not good on audio #ELTchat

BobK99

2:44P.M.

Sorry - have to leave #eltchat early. Thanks to all.

teacherphili

2:44P.M.

@teflgeek @cioccas @BobK99 @Marisa_C always room to allow them to use their own device if they have them #ELTchat

waykatewit

2:44P.M.

@Marisa_C :)))))))))) #ELTchat

XiomaraZarraga

2:44P.M.

RT @cioccas: RT @cioccas: Oral Presentations in the ESL Classroom Using a Technique Similar to Speed Dating http://t.co/kBoyn9Sz #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:44P.M.

@Marisa_C Cool! Me too! That's why I remind them to breathe. #eltchat

theteacherjames

2:44P.M.

@Raquel_EFL I can understand that, but it might be good practice for the workplace. #eltchat

cioccas

2:45P.M.

@teacherphili @teflgeek @BobK99 @Marisa_C Definitely, & encourage them to practice at home - keep phone at a distance! #ELTchat

jankenb2

2:45P.M.

@theteacherjames @cioccas @Raquel_EFL @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Internalizing content via self-selection of "known" works well too. #eltchat

teacherphili

2:45P.M.

@cioccas yes, FLIP cameras = great. simple and effective. Ss generally love to film each other as long as don't publish on YouTube #ELTchat

teflgeek

2:45P.M.

@BrunoELT my students don't need to be more opinionated!  more thoughtful in their opinions possibly!!! ;) #eltchat

teflgeek

2:46P.M.

@teacherphili Can publish on you tube but then "duty of care" issues.  There are "link only" settings on you tube I think #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:46P.M.

@teflgeek @BrunoELT But doesn't that get great debates going? #eltchat

theteacherjames

2:46P.M.

@cioccas @BobK99 @teflgeek @Marisa_C Recording presentations (audio or video) is very useful as part of the 'drafting' process. #ELTchat

teacherphili

2:47P.M.

RT @teflgeek: Can publish on you tube -> yes this is a 'unlisted' option so videos not generally searchable or 'private' #eltchat

teflgeek

2:47P.M.

@MarjorieRosenbe @BrunoELT In my class 1 student = two opinions.  But yes - some great debates!  #eltchat

Marie_Sanako

2:47P.M.

Do you teach grammar explicitly? (An #eltchat summary) http://t.co/a9KpiWVI Enjoyed reading this summary (via @Shaunwilden)

MarjorieRosenbe

2:48P.M.

Fun idea. Use dice 4 discussion. Even nos. Are pros & odd numbers cons. Sts make number of statements according to Nr on dice. #eltchat

teflgeek

2:48P.M.

@teacherphili:yes this is a 'unlisted' option so videos not generally searchable or 'private' #eltchat so could share the links in class.

Marisa_C

2:48P.M.

RT @Krisawal: @teflgeek @teacherphili and can make yr own group or stream of videos that can be for private viewing i think #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:48P.M.

IAll the great ideas you have presented and notions of rehearsing, notes, peer evaluations and more good for all kinds of speaking #ELtchat

cioccas

2:49P.M.

Any good resources out there for model presentations (realistic student level), or resources we can steer Ss too? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:49P.M.

Voxopop is a great online recording tool where all ss can leave recordings - in a thread - in a group private or piblic #ELtchat

theteacherjames

2:50P.M.

@cioccas I know it's predictable, but I do think TED is best resource for presentations bar none. #ELTchat

jankenb2

2:50P.M.

#eltchat How culturally defined is the idea what makes a gd presentation? Can a gr8 presentation in 1 culture be considered poor elsewhere?

cioccas

2:51P.M.

@theteacherjames Agree re TED Talks, but my  low-int Ss not in that league! #ELTchat

teflgeek

2:51P.M.

@jankenb2 good question.  I don't know.  I know audience reactions differ culturally! #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:51P.M.

@jankenb2 good question!  #eltchat And one I cannot readily answer! Any ideas ?

MarjorieRosenbe

2:51P.M.

Using scribe to report back what was said can be very helpful. #eltchat

cioccas

2:51P.M.

@Raquel_EFL @theteacherjames @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @jankenb2 I think I've lost the thread on this - will wait for transcript :-) #ELTchat

theteacherjames

2:51P.M.

RT @jankenb2: RT @jankenb2: #eltchat How culturally defined is the idea what makes a gd presentation? Can a gr8 presentation in 1 culture be considere ...

theteacherjames

2:51P.M.

RT @cioccas: RT @cioccas: Any good resources out there for model presentations (realistic student level), or resources we can steer Ss too? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:52P.M.

@teacherphili the UNLISTED videos option on Yout Tube is great for student uploads #eltchat #typos

teflgeek

2:52P.M.

@cioccas @theteacherjames not in that league linguistically, but presentationally?  Why not?  #eltchat

theteacherjames

2:52P.M.

@cioccas Fair enough. Maybe the TEDed ones are more appropriate? #ELTchat

HOSNA_ELT

2:52P.M.

Make a gorgeous word cloud with your own words and shapes! #tagxedo http://t.co/1wBbea6q #ESL #ELT #ELTCHAT #EFL

teacherphili

2:52P.M.

RT @teacherphili: RT @teflgeek: Corr: THERE is AN 'unlisted' option so videos not generally searchable or 'private' #eltchat #typos

Marisa_C

2:53P.M.

How about the linguistc aspects of introducing, outlining, connecting, moving to a close; isn;t it also important to teach those? #eltchat

theteacherjames

2:53P.M.

@teflgeek @cioccas Plus they all have subtitles. #eltchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:53P.M.

@jankenb2 Good question about culture. For me a good presentation keeps me awake & interested & I learn sth. #eltchat

teacherphili

2:53P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: the UNLISTED videos option on YOU Tube is great for student uploads #eltchat #typos #feedback ;-)

michaelegriffin

2:53P.M.

#ELTchat @jankenb2 Good point. This is why I like to have the Ss help develop the criteria and choose what they think is important/good

theteacherjames

2:54P.M.

@teflgeek @cioccas This TED talk I blogged about could be used with int. levels, with the right prep I think: http://t.co/pOp0m5IL #eltchat

HOSNA_ELT

2:54P.M.

The Top 100 Tools for Learning 2012 list is revealed http://t.co/LbcGFOwf via @c4lpt #ELT #ESL #ELTCHAT #EFL #TOOLS

HOSNA_ELT

2:54P.M.

Animated Avatars for PowerPoint Presentations | PowerPoint Presentation http://t.co/yc1ynoXp @freepowerpoint #PRESENTATIONS #ELT #ELTCHAT

michaelegriffin

2:54P.M.

@Marisa_C @teacherphili http://t.co/DbXDE7MM might also be a good option for this type of thing. #ELTchat

feedtheteacher

2:55P.M.

@jankenb2 yes, you are right, I guess culturally there is a lot of difference, even simple things like where to stand,Good point! #eltchat

theteacherjames

2:55P.M.

@cioccas @teflgeek That's why they are with you! #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:55P.M.

@Marisa_C That's where I start. We look at the diff sections & language. There is argument that NS don't signpost. #eltchat

cioccas

2:55P.M.

@teflgeek @theteacherjames I think most of my Ss would say not in that league linguistically AND presentationally :-) #ELTchat

jankenb2

2:56P.M.

@Marisa_C #eltchat Yes, process is pragmatic instruction too. Each culture defines presentation criteria. Also differentiates for purpose.

Marisa_C

2:56P.M.

@MarjorieRosenbe same in writing - but they do so lexicaly or in other ways  #eltchat

stormyhickman1

2:56P.M.

RT @ShellTerrell: RT @ShellTerrell: Motivation Stations! Great post by @sandymillin http://t.co/BKnmvrlS #eltchat #ellchat #eslchat #edchat

Marisa_C

2:56P.M.

RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @Marisa_C That's where I start. We look at the diff sections & language.Argument that NS don't signpost. #eltchat

teflgeek

2:57P.M.

@jankenb2 @Marisa_C I think different cultures have different rhetorical styles, so this would affect presentation organisation, #eltchat

theteacherjames

2:57P.M.

@Marisa_C Yes, I also do a class analysing the phrases used for linking ideas, intros, outros, rhetorical questions etc. #eltchat

cioccas

2:57P.M.

@theteacherjames @teflgeek I'd like to show them something they think they could do themselves as well as expert pres'ns #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:57P.M.

When students signposr well I point it out to others. Could also have sts listen for that language. #eltchat

theteacherjames

2:58P.M.

RT @Krisawal: @theteacherjames @jankenb2 perhaps not nec defined only by culture but context and register of presn too #eltchat

teflgeek

2:58P.M.

@cioccas video your DoS giving a teacher dev seminar.....  ask for feedback from the students!  #eltchat

theteacherjames

2:58P.M.

@Marisa_C Necessary for higher level learners to sound slick and professional. #eltchat

theteacherjames

2:59P.M.

@cioccas Fair point, it's good to get a mixture of attainable and the professionals. #ELTchat

cioccas

2:59P.M.

@teflgeek Great idea! #ELTchat

MarjorieRosenbe

2:59P.M.

@theteacherjames @Marisa_C They also need to sound convincing. And get idea across that they believe what they are saying. #eltchat

cioccas

2:59P.M.

This is probably closer model to what I mean: http://t.co/KnqHPKII #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:59P.M.

Perhaps a phrase bank or sth like a poster on the wall as visual reminder in class while a st is presenting? #eltchat

Marisa_C

3:00P.M.

Great ending to #ELTchat - I will get the transcript out in two sticks but who is going to do the summary pls?

theteacherjames

3:00P.M.

@MarjorieRosenbe Absolutely, that's where the planning and hard work comes in! #eltchat

cioccas

3:00P.M.

@theteacherjames That's what I'd need - I'm rubbish at presentations myself :-) #ELTchat

teflgeek

3:00P.M.

@cioccas there's probably also something in "The Office" that might suit  #eltchat

teacherphili

3:01P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: RT @cioccas: @Marisa_C I've already promised Shaun I'd do it! #ELTchat > thank you o great summary writer - applause pls!!!!!!

theteacherjames

3:01P.M.

@waykatewit Love it! #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3:01P.M.

RT @cioccas: @Marisa_C I've already promised Shaun I'd do it! #ELTchat > thank you o great summary writer - applause pls!!!!!!

waykatewit

3:01P.M.

@theteacherjames @teflgeek @cioccas #ELTchat funny presentation )

worldteacher

3:01P.M.

@Marisa_C @cioccas is & I'm looking forward to reading it!! :-) #eltchat

cioccas

3:01P.M.

@Marisa_C I've already promised Shaun I'd do it! #ELTchat

jankenb2

3:01P.M.

#eltchat and while we are teaching the pragmatics of oral presentation skills in English, Am or Euro also teach how to give soc accepted FB.

cioccas

3:02P.M.

@teacherphili @Marisa_C @worldteacher Don't get too carried away, it's only my second! #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3:02P.M.

What? No more applause for @cioccas ??? Only one pair of hands??? :-(  #ELTchat

theteacherjames

3:02P.M.

@cioccas You just need lots of practice! #ELTchat

teacherphili

3:02P.M.

Off to Norwich now. Bye everyone! See you next week for you know what ;-) !! #ELTchat

cioccas

3:02P.M.

@jankenb2 "also teach how to give soc accepted FB." < Yes, good point! #ELTchat

worldteacher

3:03P.M.

@Marisa_C @cioccas Two!!!! #eltchat

Marisa_C

3:03P.M.

@cioccas lol am sending out some waves of encouragement!!!! :-D  #ELTchat

theteacherjames

3:03P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: What? No more applause for @cioccas ??? Only one pair of hands??? :-(  #ELTchat >>> Thanks Lesley!

cioccas

3:03P.M.

@Marisa_C The sound of one hand clapping! #ELTchat

worldteacher

3:03P.M.

Thanks everyone for another great #eltchat!! Lost connection a little in the middle, but will catch up with Lesley's fab summary! @cioccas

theteacherjames

3:04P.M.

@jankenb2 Thanks, looking forward to the slides, well some of the them! ;-) #eltchat

cioccas

3:04P.M.

RT @Krisawal: #ELTchat hands clapping furiously here.....thnx for great chat to ALL! < And from e - thanks

teflgeek

3:04P.M.

thanks all for great chat and thanks to @cioccas for imminent summary work!  #eltchat - see you next time!

cioccas

3:04P.M.

@worldteacher: Hope you didn't see this one:  "That's what I'd need - I'm rubbish at presentations myself :-)" #ELTchat ;-)

jankenb2

3:04P.M.

#eltchat..."Let me begin by stating that this chat has been most enlightening...I will provide the 50+ slides soon! ;-) Good day all. C U "

worldteacher

3:05P.M.

@cioccas I studiously ignored it!! :-) #eltchat

Marisa_C

3:06P.M.

OK good #ELtchat folk - we will be back this evening to talk about.. How much does learning a foreign language help a teacher teach?

cioccas

3:06P.M.

@theteacherjames @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @BrunoELT Thanks again to our fabulous #ELTchat moderators

TheHeadsOffice

3:06P.M.

@cioccas @teacherphili @Marisa_C @worldteacher Just picking this up & see it has ended :( Can you explain #ELTchat pls?

theteacherjames

3:06P.M.

Thanks for a great chat everyone, especially to my fellow mods @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C and @BrunoELT. #eltchat

cioccas

3:06P.M.

@worldteacher Good, I wouldn't want to worry you! :-)  #ELTchat

theteacherjames

3:07P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: OK good #ELtchat folk - we will be back this evening to talk about.. How much does learning a foreign language help a teac ...

oyajimbo

3:07P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: RT @Marisa_C: OK good #ELtchat folk - we will be back this evening to talk about.. How much does learning a foreign language help a teac ...

annehodg

3:07P.M.

RT @cioccas: RT @cioccas: This is probably closer model to what I mean: http://t.co/KnqHPKII #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3:08P.M.

@TheHeadsOffice Here is some info on #ELTchat http://t.co/suD8eSbh and here is a list of our chat summaries  http://t.co/WovY1OUJ