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How should we approach vocabulary teaching and learning Is there a place for rote learning

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This is the transcript of #eltchat on 19.09.2012  on How should we approach vocabulary teaching &learning? Is there a place for rote learning? What is the current thinking about it?

 

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Shaunwilden 1:00 PM Welcome to today's #eltchat on vocabulary - full topic in next tweet
Shaunwilden 1:00 PM How should we approach vocabulary teaching & learning? Is there a place for rote learning? What is the current thinking about it? #eltchat
theteacherjames 1:01 PM RT @Shaunwilden: Welcome to today's #eltchat on vocabulary - full topic in next tweet
worldteacher 1:00 PM RT @BrunoELT: #eltchat How should we approach vocabulary teaching & learning? Is there a place for rote learning?  What is the curre ...
LizziePinard 1:01 PM #eltchat hi all
rliberni 1:01 PM I also think translation can play a part too #eltchat
AlexandraKouk 1:02 PM Hello #ELTchat :-)
cioccas 1:02 PM RT @michelleworgan: #ELTchat ... finding useful/fun ways of learning vocab - more interesting than studying word lists < Oh, yes!
cioccas 1:02 PM @ElkySmith #ELTchat on NOW!
michelleworgan 1:02 PM #ELTchat I'm trying to get teenage sts more engaged by finding useful/fun ways of learning vocab - more interesting than studying word lists
theteacherjames 1:02 PM RT @Shaunwilden: How should we approach vocabulary teaching & learning? Is there a place for rote learning? What is the current thin ...
Shaunwilden 1:03 PM So translation and rote learning have already been suggested are these the best approaches? #eltchat
rliberni 1:03 PM the key thing is to make sure they use them in context to be certain to remember #eltchat
michelleworgan 1:03 PM #ELTchat I'm not convinced rote learning is effective in long term, esp with YLs - anyone had success?
teflerinha 1:03 PM #eltchat Personally, I did a lot of rote learning when learning Polish and Portuguese- little cards etc.
Shaunwilden 1:03 PM Today's mods are me and @theteacherjames  so if you need any help or advise then ask #eltchat
worldteacher 1:04 PM @teflerinha Rote learning has never worked for me - I need context &/or images & so do my students here in Vietnam IME #eltchat
rliberni 1:04 PM @LizziePinard  yes fun activities like quizzes & games  more fun :-) #eltchat
LizziePinard 1:04 PM #eltchat i've read that if you increase the depth of processing, the lexis becomes more memorable
michelleworgan 1:04 PM RT @cioccas: Personally I'm rubbish at rote learning, need something more to make it memorable :-) #ELTchat|yes, not ideal 4 all  styles
jobethsteel 1:04 PM Have some CELTA trainees with me today. #eltchat
teflerinha 1:04 PM @mickstout @Shaunwilden Article by Paul Nation on why rote learning works http://t.co/OVjQeCh5 #eltchat
cioccas 1:04 PM Personally I'm rubbish at rote learning, need something more to make it memorable :-) #ELTchat
rliberni 1:04 PM RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat If @Sandymillin were here, she'd recommend quizlet!! :-)
jobethsteel 1:04 PM Hello everyone.  #eltchat
LizziePinard 1:04 PM #eltchat If @Sandymillin were here, she'd recommend quizlet!! :-)
Shaunwilden 1:05 PM Rather  than jump around shall we concentrate on rote learning for a bit? #eltchat
rliberni 1:05 PM RT @teflerinha: @cioccas Yes, I think it may be at least partly a matter of personal preference #eltchat I agree
michelleworgan 1:05 PM #ELTchat Yes, classifying seems to be a good method
worldteacher 1:05 PM RT @cioccas: Personally I'm rubbish at rote learning, need something more to make it memorable :-) #ELTchat  >Me too!!
Shaunwilden 1:05 PM @jobethsteel Hi Jo nice to see you again #eltchat
teflerinha 1:05 PM @cioccas Yes, I think it may be at least partly a matter of personal preference #eltchat
louisealix68 1:05 PM #eltchat I think rote learning has its place - some learners prefer it ("musical intelligence") - helped me with German (dessen, deren, etc)
rliberni 1:06 PM @Shaunwilden  can make rote learning more fun with creating chants, songs & raps etc..#eltchat
michelleworgan 1:06 PM RT @teflerinha: #eltchat I think Nation says you can learn by rote, but then have to use in context to enter deep store|sounds logical!
cioccas 1:06 PM @rliberni @teflerinha So we need more than one way of teaching vocabulary - back to our box of tricks - a recurring theme on #ELTchat :)
worldteacher 1:06 PM RT @teflerinha: Article by Paul Nation on why rote learning works http://t.co/mfbFwJQd #eltchat >interesting - bookmarked for later.
michelleworgan 1:06 PM #ELTchat and using pictures/diagrams e.g putting house vocab into a outline of house
nathanghall 1:06 PM Culture Street Picture Book: A simple way to make a children's book online http://t.co/90z6mYBv #edtech #eltchat #writing
teflerinha 1:06 PM #eltchat I think Nation says you can learn by rote, but then have to use in context to enter deep store (fits with my experience)
Shaunwilden 1:07 PM RT @michelleworgan: @BrunoELT Getting sts to use vocab in a personal way may help make it more memorable #eltchat
louisealix68 1:07 PM I use vocab test every lesson! #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:07 PM RT @michelleworgan: #ELTchat Do any of you use weekly vocab tests to encourage sts to revisit vocab?
michelleworgan 1:07 PM #ELTchat Do any of you use weekly vocab tests to encourage sts to revisit vocab?
teflerinha 1:07 PM RT @cioccas: @rliberni @teflerinha So we need more than one way of teaching vocabulary - back to our box of tricks - a recurring theme o ...
rliberni 1:07 PM RT @worldteacher: RT @teflerinha: Article by Paul Nation on why rote learning works http://t.co/mfbFwJQd #eltchat >interesting - book ...
Shaunwilden 1:08 PM RT @louisealix68: word search means writing words, then looking for ones others have made - also form of rote. #eltchat
worldteacher 1:08 PM RT @michelleworgan: #ELTchat Do any of you use weekly vocab tests to encourage sts to revisit vocab? >Yes - we encourage it in my dept.
louisealix68 1:08 PM word search means writing words, then looking for ones others have made - also form of rote. #eltchat
louisealix68 1:08 PM my kids love making word search puzzles #eltchat
cioccas 1:08 PM @michelleworgan Sometimes and also group games which include revision of vocab from the week. #ELTchat
theteacherjames 1:08 PM @michelleworgan Not exactly, but I try to do a weekly vocab revision activity if I can. #ELTchat
jobethsteel 1:08 PM @Shaunwilden You too! #eltchat
michelleworgan 1:09 PM RT @louisealix68: younger classes love bingo + pelmanism = also type of rote #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 1:09 PM Personalising voab helps. Sts discuss topic and we then discuss words they needed to express what they wanted to say. #eltchat
louisealix68 1:09 PM younger classes love bingo + pelmanism = also type of rote #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:09 PM @theteacherjames Are you not a fan? #eltchat
AlexandraKouk 1:09 PM RT @michelleworgan: #ELTchat and using pictures/diagrams e.g putting house vocab into a outline of house
Shaunwilden 1:09 PM RT @michelleworgan: #ELTchat How about ways of making rote learning more fun? Any ideas?
theteacherjames 1:09 PM Rote learning: surely there are better ways? #eltchat
michelleworgan 1:09 PM #ELTchat How about ways of making rote learning more fun? Any ideas?
teflerinha 1:09 PM @BrunoELT @LizziePinard Think 1 way 2 increase depth is if you really need it and struggle 2 retrieve it..remember nxt time #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:10 PM @worldteacher Do you do anything with them other than have them on the wall? #eltchat
AlexandraKouk 1:10 PM combining vocab with visuals - powerful way to present and recall vocab #eltchat
michelleworgan 1:10 PM RT @worldteacher: We also use weekly vocab posters which are put up on the wall as a permanent visual reminder. #eltchat| nice idea!
PatrickAndrews 1:10 PM @Shaunwilden @michelleworgan Often have competitions.  Problem is the best get more practice. #eltchat
worldteacher 1:10 PM We also use weekly vocab posters which are put up on the wall as a permanent visual reminder. #eltchat
LizziePinard 1:10 PM @BrunoELT #eltchat by getting ss to use more than one kind of processing - identifying, manipulating, classifying etc - on the language
worldteacher 1:11 PM @Shaunwilden Yes - students create them.  Throughout the course we use them in memory games, sentence building, story telling, etc. #eltchat
elawassell 1:11 PM #eltchat I used to make cards like this as a learner. Kept them in my pockets and repeated - than tested myself. http://t.co/KVtnYdSX
teflerinha 1:11 PM #eltchat Think level is relevant- beginners need more rote learning bcos less context available #eltchat
michelleworgan 1:11 PM @AlexandraKouk I agree with visuals, and also even other senses? sounds, smells... #ELTchat
MarjorieRosenbe 1:11 PM @rliberni Agree thst raps &songs liven up rote learning. also make use of different storage area in the brain. #eltchat
PatrickAndrews 1:11 PM @theteacherjames Agree.  Reading is vitally important. #eltchat
rliberni 1:12 PM RT @AlexandraKouk: @michelleworgan: ... visuals, and also even other senses? sounds, smells... #ELTchat > by all means! the more sens ...
AlexandraKouk 1:12 PM @michelleworgan: ... visuals, and also even other senses? sounds, smells... #ELTchat > by all means! the more senses the better!
theteacherjames 1:12 PM @Shaunwilden Well, I think it has a limited place, but there are equally valid ways. #eltchat
rliberni 1:12 PM RT @ElkySmith: @teflerinha Rote learning is perhaps easier for beginners bc of concrete nature of vocabulary at that level? #eltchat
ElkySmith 1:12 PM @teflerinha Rote learning is perhaps easier for beginners bc of concrete nature of vocabulary at that level? #eltchat
rliberni 1:12 PM RT @MarjorieRosenbe: @rliberni Agree thst raps &songs liven up rote learning. also make use of different storage area in the brain.  ...
teflerinha 1:12 PM @elawassell Yes, me too- and it definitely worked. But again, maybe that's a learner differences thing? #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:12 PM @teflerinha I see your point but do sts feel it is level related? #eltchat
theteacherjames 1:13 PM @PatrickAndrews And writing too, one of the best ways to revise vocab, I think.  #eltchat
teflerinha 1:13 PM RT @michelleworgan: I thought of rote learning as just trying to memorise a list but it seems there are many more alternatives! #ELTchat
worldteacher 1:13 PM Also encourage students to be creative with their personal vocab notebooks - word trees, pictures, use of colour,etc. #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:13 PM @theteacherjames I disagree that it has limited place, I think it is much imp both in learning and real life  #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 1:13 PM Helping learners discover how best to learn vocab based on learning style can lead to better sts success & autonomy. #eltchat
teflerinha 1:13 PM @Shaunwilden #eltchat I think beginners are very keen to quickly build up a basic vocabulary..but there r ways and means of 'rote' learning
rliberni 1:13 PM RT @teflerinha: @elawassell Yes, me too- and it definitely worked. But again, maybe that's a learner differences thing? #eltchat
michelleworgan 1:13 PM I thought of rote learning as just trying to memorise a list but it seems there are many more alternatives! #ELTchat
ElkySmith 1:14 PM #eltchat I promote 'small amounts often' when it comes to learning/reviewing vocabulary
michelleworgan 1:14 PM I often get sts to make little stories with new vocab, esp things like phrasal verbs - context V important! #ELTchat
AlexandraKouk 1:14 PM perhaps rote learning in the context of a story (like Kim's game) #eltchat
elawassell 1:15 PM RT@MarjorieRosenbe:Helping learners discover how best 2 learn vocab based on learning style can lead to better sts success&autonomy #ELTchat
theteacherjames 1:15 PM @PatrickAndrews Exactly. #eltchat
teflerinha 1:15 PM RT @cioccas: I reuse new words as much as possible during the week - Ss pick up on this and start to try to do the same #ELTchat >nice
AlexandraKouk 1:15 PM activities to enhance visual memory here http://t.co/koBvLreb  #eltchat
PatrickAndrews 1:15 PM @theteacherjames Can often give a reason to revise, go back to what had been read. #eltchat
ElkySmith 1:15 PM RT @cioccas: I reuse new words as much as possible during the week - Ss pick up on this and start to try to do the same #ELTchat
theteacherjames 1:15 PM @Shaunwilden It very much depends on how it's done, as always. Vocab has to be revised within a useful context. #eltchat
cioccas 1:15 PM I reuse new words as much as possible during the week - Ss pick up on this and start to try to do the same #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 1:15 PM RT @teflerinha: @ElkySmith Yes, think so..but also harder to 'notice' words when everything is new #eltchat
teflerinha 1:15 PM @ElkySmith Yes, think so..but also harder to 'notice' words when everything is new #eltchat
michelleworgan 1:16 PM RT @BrunoELT: @theteacherjames revision is key to learning vocabulary. #eltchat| agree, how can we get sts to revise at home?
jobethsteel 1:16 PM #eltchat at our centre all teachers have a vocab bag and use it for constant recycling activities
PatrickAndrews 1:16 PM @teflerinha @ElkySmith I think the guidance is that only 4% should be new in a reading text #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:16 PM Anyway moving on from rote learning.....#eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:16 PM @theteacherjames Agree, i dont think it is the only way but as they say practice makes perfect and rote helps this #eltchat
teflerinha 1:16 PM RT @AlexandraKouk: activities to enhance visual memory here http://t.co/koBvLreb  #eltchat
theteacherjames 1:17 PM @Shaunwilden If you can hide rote learning within a more interesting relevant activity, I'm in! #eltchat
worldteacher 1:17 PM #eltchat Synonym posters in the classroom which sts can add to during the course - great way to expand vocab.
MarjorieRosenbe 1:17 PM Memorising lists can be problematic out of  context. I like my sts to know how to use words. #eltchat
teflerinha 1:18 PM #eltchat http://t.co/WmiJh22X Link on thematic grouping- not lexical sets
jobethsteel 1:18 PM For autonomous learning - organising vocab as sts prefer - they can use the BC vocab book on devices http://t.co/padISzEr #eltchat
AlexandraKouk 1:18 PM RT @worldteacher: #eltchat Synonym posters ... sts cn add 2 during the course - gr8 way 2 expand vocab.> or mindmaps they cn develop?
louisealix68 1:18 PM Schouten van Parrerren writes interesting stuff on topic. See also here: http://t.co/3FdbpJP7  #eltchat
worldteacher 1:18 PM RT @jobethsteel: #eltchat at our centre all teachers have a vocab bag and use it for constant recycling activities > Yes, we do this, too!
teflerinha 1:18 PM #eltchat Lexical sets? Evidence shows grouping thematically helpful, but semantically (e.g.loads of fruit and veg) not- link 2 follow
teflerinha 1:19 PM RT @ElkySmith: Shameless self-promotion: my Prezi on teaching & learning vocab - 'Beyond Backs to the Board' http://t.co/jT8ur24m #E ...
theteacherjames 1:19 PM There will always be sts who like to learn by rote but equally but there will be those who don't, & they should both be catered for #eltchat
ElkySmith 1:19 PM Shameless self-promotion: my Prezi on teaching & learning vocab - 'Beyond Backs to the Board' http://t.co/jT8ur24m #ELTchat
michelleworgan 1:19 PM @BrunoELT good, we can set appropriate tasks for hw where the vocab comes up naturally #ELTchat
worldteacher 1:19 PM #eltchat Having vocab gaps is great if a teacher is going to be late for a class & a colleague has to fill 5 or 10 mins - happens in my uni!
cioccas 1:19 PM @teflerinha @ElkySmith When Ss start doing this I know they're starting to get it - they get competitive sometimes too #ELTchat
Shaunwilden 1:19 PM @PatrickAndrews @teflerinha @ElkySmith  Only 4% so we have to use  ld = (Nlex/N) x 100 :-) ! #eltchat
jobethsteel 1:19 PM RT @theteacherjames: @Shaunwilden If you can hide rote learning within a more interesting relevant activity, I'm in! #eltchat
teflerinha 1:19 PM RT @Shaunwilden: @theteacherjames Agree, i dont think it is the only way but as they say practice makes perfect and rote helps this #eltchat
jeeves_ 1:20 PM RT @Shaunwilden: How should we approach vocabulary teaching & learning? Is there a place for rote learning? What is the current thin ...
Shaunwilden 1:20 PM RT @teflerinha: #eltchat rote learning not communicative- but think one tool that can lead to better communication eventually
teflerinha 1:20 PM #eltchat rote learning not communicative- but think one tool that can lead to better communication eventually
ElkySmith 1:20 PM RT @theteacherjames: There will always be sts who like to learn by rote but equally but there will be those who don't, & they should ...
worldteacher 1:20 PM RT @AlexandraKouk: #eltchat Synonym posters ... sts cn add 2 during the course - gr8 way 2 expand vocab.> or mindmaps they cn develop? >Yes!
teflerinha 1:21 PM RT @Shaunwilden: the other part of the topic is - How should we approach vocabulary teaching & learning?  #eltchat> Lexical sets anyone?
Shaunwilden 1:21 PM @louisealix68 The topic said should be you can use could :-)  #eltchat
worldteacher 1:21 PM RT @cioccas: @worldteacher: #eltchat Having vocab gaps ... < also good when Ss are dribbling in for an after-work class >Yes!!
louisealix68 1:21 PM @Shaunwilden should or could? #eltchat
AlexandraKouk 1:21 PM RT @Shaunwilden: Remember the other part of the topic is - How should we approach vocabulary teaching & learning?  #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:21 PM Remember the other part of the topic is - How should we approach vocabulary teaching & learning?  #eltchat
cioccas 1:21 PM @worldteacher: #eltchat Having vocab gaps ... < also good when Ss are dribbling in for an after-work class
ElkySmith 1:22 PM I think a variety of approaches/tasks/activities is the key - provide multiple experiences of/exposures to a word. #eltchat
worldteacher 1:22 PM @BrunoELT Taboo is great - as is 'call my bluff'! #eltchat
AlexandraKouk 1:22 PM RT @jobethsteel: #eltchat sts at home prepare wiki pages on specific topic  collaborativel -then 2 B referred 2 in & out of class> luv that!
LizziePinard 1:22 PM #eltchat remember not to limit vocabulary to words
jobethsteel 1:22 PM #eltchat sts at home prepare wiki pages on specific topic - collaboratively - then to be referred to in and out of class
theteacherjames 1:22 PM RT @Shaunwilden: Remember the other part of the topic is - How should we approach vocabulary teaching & learning?  #eltchat
louisealix68 1:23 PM I like vocab thru texts, where kids underline words they personally don't know. Then make own sentences using them.  #eltchat
michelleworgan 1:23 PM @teflerinha Yes to lexicals sets for recording vocab, better for organisiation #ELTchat
MarjorieRosenbe 1:23 PM Try to vary approach to vocab with visual, auditory, kinesthetic plus different cognitive methods. #eltchat
jobethsteel 1:23 PM RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat remember not to limit vocabulary to words
AlexandraKouk 1:23 PM RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat remember not to limit vocabulary to words> true, what about chunks?
rliberni 1:24 PM RT @MarjorieRosenbe: Try to vary approach to vocab with visual, auditory, kinesthetic plus different cognitive methods. #eltchat
jobethsteel 1:24 PM Anyone used concordances successfully? #eltchat
PatrickAndrews 1:24 PM @worldteacher @BrunoELT Yes, I like taboo #eltchat
rliberni 1:24 PM RT @louisealix68: I like vocab thru texts, where kids underline words they personally don't know. Then make own sentences using them.  # ...
rliberni 1:24 PM RT @teflerinha: @michelleworgan Me too, but have seen research that lexical sets not helpful http://t.co/WmiJh22X #eltchat
teflerinha 1:24 PM @michelleworgan Me too, but have seen research that lexical sets not helpful http://t.co/WmiJh22X #eltchat
cioccas 1:24 PM RT @ElkySmith: I think a variety of approaches/tasks/activities is the key - provide multiple experiences of/exposures to a word. #eltchat
michelleworgan 1:24 PM RT @MarjorieRosenbe: Try to vary approach to vocab with visual, auditory, kinesthetic plus different cognitive methods. #eltchat
michelleworgan 1:24 PM RT @louisealix68: I like vocab thru texts, where kids underline words they personally don't know. Then make own sentences using them.  # ...
jeeves_ 1:24 PM Popular & effective > RT @jobethsteel: #eltchat at our centre all teachers have a vocab bag and use it for constant recycling activities
teflerinha 1:25 PM RT @cioccas: RT @elawassell: I recomend @leoselivan's blog - http://t.co/FMknqkOp lots of ideas to teach vocab!
rliberni 1:25 PM RT @theteacherjames: Post it notes are my favourite vocab revision tool. Here's an example: http://t.co/wuP7vt0E #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 1:25 PM Love to use things like Taboo, Outburst, Say my word. Get sts to write own sentences for games. #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:25 PM @teflerinha Isnt a question learning style or what best fits your memory/ so they work for some and not others? #ELTchat
theteacherjames 1:25 PM RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat remember not to limit vocabulary to words
teflerinha 1:25 PM @rliberni @michelleworgan Too many similar words in a lexical set, I guess. But thematic grouping is fine- so u can use in context #eltchat
theteacherjames 1:25 PM Post it notes are my favourite vocab revision tool. Here's an example: http://t.co/wuP7vt0E #eltchat
rliberni 1:25 PM RT @worldteacher: RT @AlexandraKouk: #eltchat don't limit vocabulary to words> what about chunks? > Yes - always learn in chunks - ...
cioccas 1:25 PM RT @elawassell: I recomend @leoselivan's blog - http://t.co/IbRu10Sm lots of ideas to teach vocab!
worldteacher 1:25 PM RT @ElkySmith: I think a variety of approaches/tasks/activities is the key - provide multiple experiences of/exposures to a word. #eltchat
jobethsteel 1:25 PM RT @ElkySmith: I think a variety of approaches/tasks/activities is the key - provide multiple experiences of/exposures to a word. #eltchat
elawassell 1:25 PM I recomend @leoselivan's blog - http://t.co/rcRjdJag lots of ideas to teach vocab!
worldteacher 1:26 PM RT @theteacherjames: Post it notes are my favourite vocab revision tool. Here's an example: http://t.co/7Yx01Zx6 #eltchat >Nice!!
teflerinha 1:26 PM @Shaunwilden I'm sure it does vary- because everything does- and easy to think what works for us is what works period. #eltchat
theteacherjames 1:26 PM RT @elawassell: I recomend @leoselivan's blog - http://t.co/rcRjdJag lots of ideas to teach vocab!
louisealix68 1:26 PM @teflerinha have seen evidence from brain research that them grouping not help brain - article in Dutch tho' so won't add link here #eltchat
rliberni 1:26 PM RT @AlexandraKouk: Games are always a good idea, I think :-) Here's 1000 free vocab games http://t.co/G65AZfY1 #eltchat
theteacherjames 1:26 PM RT @louisealix68: I like vocab thru texts, where kids underline words they personally don't know. Then make own sentences using them.  # ...
AlexandraKouk 1:26 PM Games are always a good idea, I think :-) Here's 1000 free vocab games http://t.co/G65AZfY1 #eltchat
AlexandraKouk 1:27 PM @jobethsteel for more advanced levels - more EAP focus: taught Ss how to use them, too #eltchat
jobethsteel 1:27 PM RT @Shaunwilden: @teflerinha Isnt a question learning style or what best fits your memory/ so they work for some and not others? #ELTchat
jeeves_ 1:27 PM RT @elawassell: I recomend @leoselivan's blog - http://t.co/rcRjdJag lots of ideas to teach vocab!
teflerinha 1:27 PM @louisealix68 Shame, sounds interesting #eltchat
PatrickAndrews 1:27 PM @worldteacher @BrunoELT Drama activities can work with narrative verbs.  Students make up mime with verbs learnt.  Others call out #eltchat
michelleworgan 1:27 PM RT @AlexandraKouk: Games are always a good idea, I think :-) Here's 1000 free vocab games http://t.co/Fjkg7S2T #eltchat|hotseat too :)
MarjorieRosenbe 1:27 PM Cooperative or half crosswords also great for teaching vocab. #eltchat
cioccas 1:28 PM RT @pjgallantry: #ELTchat currently in class doing vocab and dictionary work < :-)
LizziePinard 1:28 PM #eltchat make to think about how words behave not just what they mean
worldteacher 1:28 PM RT @PatrickAndrews:@BrunoELT Drama activities can work with verbs.  Students make up mime with verbs learnt. Others call out #eltchat >Nice!
ElkySmith 1:28 PM Nation says in this workshop "I'm a fanatic of using vocabulary cards": http://t.co/7Seq2j9Z #eltchat
pjgallantry 1:28 PM #ELTchat currently in class doing vocab and dictionary work
teflerinha 1:28 PM @BrunoELT @jobethsteel Have done a bit with concordances- some useful activities- but they look so offputting! #eltchat
louisealix68 1:28 PM @teflerinha indeed, will find and post later  (in depths of computer)- perhaps some may understand parts of it? #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:28 PM @teflerinha I went mad on lexical sets after reading lewis but it never seemed to improve sts vocab :-) #ELTchat
LizziePinard 1:29 PM @Shaunwilden #eltchat Module 2 LSA 1 on lexis in progress.... :-p
Shaunwilden 1:29 PM @LizziePinard oo that sounds like you are talking about lexical priming :-) #ELTchat
jobethsteel 1:29 PM RT @MarjorieRosenbe: Cooperative or half crosswords also great for teaching vocab. #eltchat
teflerinha 1:29 PM @Shaunwilden Think really needing words is key (but how to create that?) #eltchat
teflerinha 1:30 PM RT @ElkySmith: @teflerinha @Shaunwilden For higher levels, 'creating need' is where carefully-selected authentic materials can come into ...
MarjorieRosenbe 1:30 PM Variety of input helps when texts are interesting & engage learners. Teaching to understand meaning from context vital. #eltchat
teflerinha 1:30 PM RT @louisealix68: RT @teflerinha: @Shaunwilden Think really needing words is key (but how to create that?) . skype with NS? #eltchat
AlexandraKouk 1:30 PM @PatrickAndrews mime's great!!! Ss love it! #eltchat
ElkySmith 1:30 PM @teflerinha @Shaunwilden For higher levels, 'creating need' is where carefully-selected authentic materials can come into their own #eltchat
jobethsteel 1:30 PM @AlexandraKouk Great.  Keep meaning to too. #eltchat
louisealix68 1:30 PM RT @teflerinha: @Shaunwilden Think really needing words is key (but how to create that?) . skype with NS? #eltchat
rliberni 1:31 PM RT @jobethsteel: RT @cioccas: RT @pjgallantry: #ELTchat currently in class doing vocab and dictionary work < :-) ;-)
louisealix68 1:31 PM sorry - off to fetch drenched child with flat tyre! was fun, keep up the good work #eltchat
rliberni 1:31 PM sorry got sidelined with a phone call :-(  #eltchat
jobethsteel 1:31 PM RT @cioccas: RT @pjgallantry: #ELTchat currently in class doing vocab and dictionary work < :-) ;-)
Shaunwilden 1:31 PM @LizziePinard Ahas :-) have you read Hoey's book on it #ELTchat
rliberni 1:31 PM RT @BrunoELT: @worldteacher @patrickandrews great! Some TPR activities with YL help them memorize directions, requests and imperatives.  ...
rliberni 1:31 PM RT @MarjorieRosenbe: Variety of input helps when texts are interesting & engage learners. Teaching to understand meaning from contex ...
pjgallantry 1:31 PM #ELTchat like everything, context is king when doing vocab
elawassell 1:31 PM RT @ElkySmith Nation says in this workshop "I'm a fanatic of using vocabulary cards": http://t.co/gqAT3ZEs <-- Me too! #ELTchat
cioccas 1:32 PM RT @michelleworgan: @MarjorieRosenbe Yes we need to get them thinking, not just translating "demand high elt!" #ELTchat <Agree!
teflerinha 1:32 PM @BrunoELT Concordance is a selection of lines of text which include the word ur interested in- so u can see how it's used #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:32 PM @BrunoELT @worldteacher @alexandrakouk Assuming the chunk has some practical use for the sts #eltchat
LizziePinard 1:32 PM RT @BrunoELT: @worldteacher @alexandrakouk chunks are usually more meaningful than isolated words! Thanks for mentioning it #eltchat
LizziePinard 1:32 PM @Shaunwilden #eltchat  Not yet! When I say in progress, I mean to say research has just begun... eek.
michelleworgan 1:32 PM @MarjorieRosenbe Yes we need to get them thinking, not just translating "demand high elt!" #ELTchat
rliberni 1:32 PM RT @pjgallantry: #ELTchat like everything, context is king when doing vocab
worldteacher 1:33 PM @BrunoELT TPR not just for YLs - my adults love 'One finger, one thumb, keep moving.....'!! #eltchat :-)
rliberni 1:33 PM RT @BrunoELT: “@theteacherjames: Post it notes are my favourite vocab revision tool. Here's an example: http://t.co/GgFccqjW #eltchat”
MarjorieRosenbe 1:33 PM Maybe we can also ask 'How can we make rote learning fun& relevant?'#eltchat
rliberni 1:33 PM The key is to get things into active memory - this can sometimes be an individual thing IME (with mnemonics etc..) but def context #eltchat
victoryoak 1:33 PM RT @BrunoELT: “@AlexandraKouk: Games are always a good idea, I think :-) Here's 1000 free vocab games http://t.co/lBFyouO2 #eltchat”
Teachersilvert 1:33 PM hello everyone free app to teach vocab;blackboard works really well 4reviewing and learning http://t.co/6bi5CZmX #eltchat
Teachersilvert 1:34 PM associating vocabulary and real life class situations really works well. #eltchat #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 1:34 PM @cioccas Agree totally. When sts think it is truly wonderful! #eltchat
teflerinha 1:34 PM @BrunoELT De nada Here's a link http://t.co/vpnq7FbI #eltchat
rliberni 1:34 PM RT @AlexandraKouk: lexical priming http://t.co/p5uvKb9i  important for scaffolding http://t.co/tLgx4gfI #eltchat
rliberni 1:34 PM RT @MarjorieRosenbe: Maybe we can also ask 'How can we make rote learning fun& relevant?'#eltchat
rliberni 1:34 PM RT @Teachersilvert: hello everyone free app to teach vocab;blackboard works really well 4reviewing and learning http://t.co/6bi5CZmX #el ...
Shaunwilden 1:34 PM RT @MarjorieRosenbe: Maybe we can also ask 'How can we make rote learning fun& relevant?'#eltchat
worldteacher 1:34 PM RT @Shaunwilden: @BrunoELT @worldteacher @alexandrakouk Assuming the chunk has some practical use for the sts #eltchat >Absolutely!
AlexandraKouk 1:34 PM lexical priming http://t.co/p5uvKb9i  important for scaffolding http://t.co/tLgx4gfI #eltchat
ElkySmith 1:35 PM RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Teachersilvert: associating vocabulary and real life class situations really works well. #eltchat -> agree
MarjorieRosenbe 1:35 PM RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Teachersilvert: associating vocabulary and real life class situations really works well. #eltchat #eltchat
teflerinha 1:35 PM @BrunoELT Looks dreadful- lines and lines of text. But can do some interesting things- might feel a blog post coming on #eltchat
AlexandraKouk 1:35 PM RT @pjgallantry: #ELTchat like everything, context is king when doing vocab > absolutely!
MarjorieRosenbe 1:35 PM RT @rliberni: The key is to get things into active memory - this can sometimes be an individual thing IME (with mnemonics etc..) but def ...
Shaunwilden 1:35 PM RT @Teachersilvert: associating vocabulary and real life class situations really works well. #eltchat #eltchat
rliberni 1:36 PM RT @BrunoELT: “@MarjorieRosenbe: Cooperative or half crosswords also great for teaching vocab. #eltchat”
elawassell 1:36 PM RT @AlexandraKouk: RT @pjgallantry: #ELTchat like everything, context is king when doing vocab > absolutely! #ELTchat
rliberni 1:36 PM RT @ElkySmith: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Teachersilvert: associating vocabulary and real life class situations really works well. #eltchat -& ...
teflerinha 1:36 PM RT @AlexandraKouk: lexical priming http://t.co/p5uvKb9i  important for scaffolding http://t.co/tLgx4gfI #eltchat
worldteacher 1:36 PM RT @BrunoELT: @worldteacher :-) well, I wouldnt go as crazy as I go w YL in a TPR activity #eltchat >Depends on the adults!! :-)
rliberni 1:36 PM In the past I remebred lots of words from learning poems , rhymes and songs (french & Indonesian)  & focus not just on vocab here #eltchat
jobethsteel 1:37 PM RT @elawassell: RT @AlexandraKouk: RT @pjgallantry: #ELTchat like everything, context is king when doing vocab > absolutely! #ELTchat
teflerinha 1:37 PM @rliberni Yes, I did a lot of learning songs by heart- not in the classroom, but by myself at home #eltchat
Teachersilvert 1:37 PM also cover a wide range of voc to suit the most advanced to the weakest students. encouragement and achievement. #eltchat
rliberni 1:37 PM My IELTS stds spend hours memorising vocab but the context is often a little dodgy when they use in writing :-( #eltchat
teflerinha 1:38 PM @rliberni Isn't this where learning in context and chunks comes in? #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:38 PM RT @SueAnnan: Adrian Underhill,s fat grammar? He really expands the vocab. Can you say it under your breath? How many syllables ? #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 1:38 PM I still remember German words I learned studying German Lieder at university. Combining words & music uses both brain hemispheres #eltchat
teflerinha 1:38 PM RT @rliberni: IELTS stds spend hours memorising vocab but the context is often a little dodgy when they use in writing :-( #eltchat >agree!
AlexandraKouk 1:38 PM RT @Teachersilvert: associating vocabulary and real life class situations really works well. #eltchat #eltchat
rliberni 1:39 PM @BrunoELT yes but on the other hand stds sing songs but have no idea what they mean or what the words are!! #eltchat
theteacherjames 1:39 PM RT @rliberni: My IELTS stds spend hours memorising vocab but the context is often a little dodgy when they use in writing :-( #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:39 PM @BrunoELT @rliberni Which takes us back to rote learning :-) #eltchat
cioccas 1:40 PM RT @Teachersilvert: associating vocabulary and real life class situations really works well. #eltchat < Yep, works well in my classes too!
textivate 1:40 PM Textivate is great for getting students to think about how sentences fit together, focus on form and meaning: http://t.co/CmFO5KuW #eltchat
Teachersilvert 1:40 PM contest on bookrix: come up with definitions of silly words http://t.co/qqUIG3LK #eltchat
cioccas 1:41 PM @rliberni @BrunoELT Exactly what I was just thinking - evidence is how often they/we get words wrong :-) #ELTchat
Teachersilvert 1:41 PM I always relate challenging vocab either to songs or popular films; like "freak out" in Friends for context. #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 1:41 PM RT @cioccas: RT @Teachersilvert: associating vocabulary and real life class situations really works well. #eltchat < Yep, works well  ...
Teachersilvert 1:42 PM lots of great ideas thks, have to dash to an arts class, to widen my vocabulary. Have fun! #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 1:42 PM @rliberni @BrunoELT Used to sing in class and we always went over meaning of texts. #eltchat
rliberni 1:42 PM @Shaunwilden  true  but for some it works the key is not all eggs in one basket I think as with everything :-) #eltchat
elawassell 1:42 PM “@BrunoELT: Word of the day: have a word you want sts to use in their speeches during that specific lesson will make them remember #eltchat”
ElkySmith 1:43 PM RT @BrunoELT: Word of the day -> Phrasal Verb of the Day is my favourite = small amounts often #eltchat
rliberni 1:43 PM @elawassell  I have a word of the day 4 my online ss we pick a theme (phrasal verbs, adjectives, topics etc..) every 2/3 weeks #eltchat
baanderson 1:43 PM Really fascinating eltchat about vocabulary going on. #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:43 PM @elawassell Isnt making them use the word of the day just going to add stress to them speaking? #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:44 PM @ElkySmith @elawassell  Fair point #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 1:44 PM @rliberni @Shaunwilden That's why different approaches are necessary. What works for one group or person doesn't for another. #eltchat
rliberni 1:44 PM RT @teflerinha: @Shaunwilden @elawassell Could argue that a bit of stress isn't a bad thing- makes you dredge words up #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:44 PM Loads of ideas coming thru this #eltchat what about actual things teachers needs to consider when teaching vocab? #eltchat
rliberni 1:44 PM @MarjorieRosenbe  yes I was thinking more about songs they sing themselves that they like not c'room  activities #eltchat
ElkySmith 1:44 PM @Shaunwilden @elawassell One s's stress is another s's challenge :-) #eltchat
teflerinha 1:44 PM @Shaunwilden @elawassell Could argue that a bit of stress isn't a bad thing- makes you dredge words up #eltchat
ElkySmith 1:45 PM RT @BrunoELT: @ElkySmith we can also have "chunk of the day" -> yep, good idea #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 1:45 PM @rliberni I tell them to ask if they have questions about vocab in songs outside classroom. #eltchat
worldteacher 1:45 PM I use 'The English we Speak' podcast to teach new vocab/chunks - sts love being able to reproduce what they've heard! #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:45 PM RT @ElkySmith: New Ts need to get the hang of identifying what lexical items are worth investing effort/time to learn #eltchat
ElkySmith 1:45 PM New Ts need to get the hang of identifying what lexical items are worth investing effort/time to learn #eltchat
pjgallantry 1:46 PM #ELTchat other issue when teaching vocab is necessity-how often will student need a given word-frequency leads to familiarity.
teflerinha 1:46 PM @Shaunwilden @ElkySmith Yes, very much agree- spent far too much time on obscure vegetables as a novice teacher :) #eltchat
ElkySmith 1:46 PM RT @teflerinha: @Shaunwilden #eltchat Whether you use rote learning or not ss need noticing opps and opps where they need to use vocab
Shaunwilden 1:46 PM RT @teflerinha: @Shaunwilden #eltchat Whether you use rote learning or not ss need noticing opps and opps where they need to use vocab
teflerinha 1:46 PM @Shaunwilden #eltchat Whether you use rote learning or not ss need noticing opps and opps where they need to use vocab
ElkySmith 1:47 PM MT @teflerinha: Yes, very much agree- spent far too much time on obscure vegetables as a novice teacher :) #eltchat -> lol :-)
AlexandraKouk 1:47 PM Short booklet on Teaching Vocabulary  by CUP, practical tips based on corpus research  #eltchat
rliberni 1:47 PM RT @cioccas: @worldteacher:  Thanks, good recommendation: 'The English we Speak' podcast : http://t.co/oiIGPUFv #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 1:47 PM To consider: how do we make vocab communicative, when & how will they use/need word, how can they remember it? #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:47 PM RT @pjgallantry: #ELTchat issue when teaching vocab is necessity-how often will student need a given word-frequency leads to familiarity.
cioccas 1:47 PM @worldteacher:  Thanks, good recommendation: 'The English we Speak' podcast : http://t.co/oiIGPUFv #eltchat
rliberni 1:47 PM RT @baanderson: Classic article re:the founder of Supermemo, touches on interesting points by Bjork re: retrieval strength. http://t.co/ ...
baanderson 1:47 PM Classic article re:the founder of Supermemo, touches on interesting points by Bjork re: retrieval strength. http://t.co/SrSnXF8l #eltchat
theteacherjames 1:47 PM RT @Shaunwilden: Loads of ideas coming thru this #eltchat what about actual things teachers needs to consider when teaching vocab? #eltchat
rliberni 1:48 PM RT @worldteacher: Anyone use 'Most used/useful vocab' lists or other corpora when deciding on what vocab to focus on?  #eltchat
teflerinha 1:48 PM @worldteacher #eltchat Good dictionaries will tell u how frequent a word is- do use thsat #eltchat
AlexandraKouk 1:48 PM Yes! http://t.co/xtoVe0AY #eltchat lol
worldteacher 1:48 PM Anyone use 'Most used/useful vocab' lists or other corpora when deciding on what vocab to focus on?  #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:48 PM @AlexandraKouk Is there a link? #eltchat
theteacherjames 1:48 PM RT @baanderson: Classic article re:the founder of Supermemo, touches on interesting points by Bjork re: retrieval strength. http://t.co/ ...
AlexandraKouk 1:49 PM @Shaunwilden http://t.co/xtoVe0AY #eltchat
ShetlandESOL 1:49 PM RT @CliveSir: Say hi to @ShetlandESOL at Scottish Learning Festival, Glasgow tomorrow! http://t.co/SjTsOPO6 #esol #esoluk #elt #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:49 PM @MarjorieRosenbe Do they find it helps them? #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 1:49 PM I encourage sts to watch films in English on DVD with English subtitles to get vocab input in visual & auditory channels. #eltchat
rliberni 1:49 PM RT @teflerinha: @worldteacher #eltchat Good dictionaries will tell u how frequent a word is- do use thsat #eltchat
ElkySmith 1:49 PM Cool app for learning Australian slang - came out of research by a TAFE teacher http://t.co/oj7hkhEj #auselt #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:50 PM Ten minutes left just time for you to get your fave vocab activity / app / website in, if you havent already #eltchat
teflerinha 1:50 PM @MarjorieRosenbe This worked for me too- learnt a lot from watching McGyver in Poruguese with Eng subtitles (even some Portuguese) #eltchat
cioccas 1:50 PM RT @ElkySmith: Cool app for learning Australian slang ... http://t.co/Cpior8Ed #auselt #eltchat < Yes, love this! :-)
ElkySmith 1:51 PM RT @rliberni: The key IME is really usage when I have immersion students they have good recall as they meet some of the words every day  ...
HOSNA_ELT 1:51 PM Games for Learning English, Vocabulary, Grammar Games, Activities, ESL: http://t.co/Qbq0dnOh #ELT #ESL #ELTCHAT #VOCABULARY #ELTCHAT #GAMES
Shaunwilden 1:51 PM @BrunoELT Have a good day Bruno #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:51 PM And time to start thinking about who wants to write the summary  #eltchat
teflerinha 1:51 PM RT @rliberni: The key IME is really usage when I have immersion students they have good recall as they meet some of the words every day  ...
rliberni 1:51 PM The key IME is really usage when I have immersion students they have good recall as they meet some of the words every day #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:52 PM @MarjorieRosenbeWhat you said about dvds #eltchat
rliberni 1:52 PM With my online students s'times too much emphasis on collecting over using & end up in confusion #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 1:52 PM @Shaunwilden Which method? #eltchat
cherrymp 1:53 PM @ShetlandESOL @worldteacher you've a friend from India who thought so #eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:53 PM @cherrymp Gosh long time not see, how are you :-) #eltchat
jobethsteel 1:53 PM #eltchat  I like blockbusters - yes, as on tv - sts write the clues to the words/chunks in teamsand then play the game
ElkySmith 1:53 PM RT @rliberni: With my online students s'times too much emphasis on collecting over using & end up in confusion #eltchat
cherrymp 1:53 PM hello #eltchat after a pretty long gap - thought chat is 1730 indian time. guess i'm wrong. not a prob but - gd 2 C familiar faces again.
ShetlandESOL 1:53 PM @worldteacher Oops, one hour late - thought we started at 1pm! I use this oup website to check word frequency: http://t.co/B3CmMCkv #eltchat
elawassell 1:53 PM RT@MarjorieRosenbe:I encourage sts to watch films in ENG on DVD with ENG subtitles <- I do that too! I learned this way via FRIENDS #ELTchat
ElkySmith 1:53 PM One of my faves is what I call 'fiendishly difficult hangman' - impossible to explain in 140 chars but you can check out my prezi #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 1:54 PM @Shaunwilden They say it does. When they can read words they relax & absorb more natural language & don't misinterpret words.#eltchat
jobethsteel 1:54 PM #eltchat Must go.  Lovely to see eltchat back. :-) Thanks mods.
worldteacher 1:54 PM @cherrymp Hi Cherry - long time, no see!!  #eltchat
cioccas 1:54 PM @cherrymp Hi Cherry, welcome back to #ELTchat
cherrymp 1:55 PM @cioccas thanks Lesley - good to see you in #ELTchat.
ElkySmith 1:55 PM @cioccas There's a good ABC RN story on aus e-phrase plus an ABC news story - handy when presenting the app to students in class #eltchat
theteacherjames 1:55 PM @cherrymp @ShetlandESOL Good to see both of you, hope you can make it next time! #eltchat
ShetlandESOL 1:55 PM @cherrymp @worldteacher Phew, glad to know it's not just me then! #eltchat
worldteacher 1:55 PM RT @ShetlandESOL: Oops, one hour late - I use this oup website to check word frequency: http://t.co/VaMO0G2H #eltchat >Great tip - thanks!
rliberni 1:56 PM @cherrymp  Hello there good to see you :-) #eltchat
cherrymp 1:56 PM @theteacherjames @ShetlandESOL Sure. The clock needed a bit update. Now that's known. Will try to make it. #eltchat
worldteacher 1:56 PM @Shaunwilden Happy to take the summary if nobody else has offered. #eltchat
MarjorieRosenbe 1:56 PM @elawassell Alot of my students pick up vocab from shows like Friends or Desperate Housewives. #eltchat Or watching sports.
ShetlandESOL 1:56 PM @theteacherjames @cherrymp Will mark time in the diary for next week! #eltchat
cherrymp 1:56 PM @worldteacher True. Had a break - turned out to be pretty long. #eltchat
rliberni 1:57 PM RT @teflerinha: #eltchat We haven't mentioned cultural aspect of rote learning- embedded in some cultures e.g. Chinese good pt!
ElkySmith 1:57 PM 'I'm stuffed': migrants boggled by Aussie slang - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) | @scoopit http://t.co/tgN43dHh #eltchat
teflerinha 1:57 PM #eltchat We haven't mentioned cultural aspect of rote learning- embedded in some cultures e.g. Chinese
ShetlandESOL 1:57 PM @worldteacher Ur welcome! :)#eltchat
Shaunwilden 1:57 PM @worldteacher All yours thank you very much will get you the transcript within the hour  #eltchat
cioccas 1:58 PM Thanks to our fab mods of #ELTchat and all the chatters! Good night all :)
ElkySmith 1:58 PM @cioccas No worries - it all makes a lovely little package :-) #eltchat
theteacherjames 1:58 PM RT @teflerinha: #eltchat We haven't mentioned cultural aspect of rote learning- embedded in some cultures e.g. Chinese
MarjorieRosenbe 1:58 PM Also giving links to websites with ELT vocab. Just about to write jargon buster for CUP website PEO. Will tweet when online. #eltchat
elawassell 1:58 PM @MarjorieRosenbe TV series are good to pick up some everyday language. 
cioccas 1:58 PM @ElkySmith Excellent, thanks! #ELTchat
worldteacher 1:58 PM RT @teflerinha: #eltchat We haven't mentioned cultural aspect of rote learning- embedded in some cultures e.g. Chinese >In Vietnamese, too!
Shaunwilden 1:58 PM @teflerinha Yes good point, culture does play a huge part in that #eltchat
teflerinha 1:59 PM @cherrymp @worldteacher So likely to work better for such students, I guess. #eltchat
cherrymp 1:59 PM @worldteacher @teflerinha rote learning in Burma too. #eltchat
teflerinha 1:59 PM #eltchat Really enjoyed today's chat-loads of food for thought. Thanks everyone.
ElkySmith 1:59 PM RT @cioccas: Thanks to our fab mods of #ELTchat and all the chatters! Good night all :)
cherrymp 2:00 PM RT @Shaunwilden: If you are around this evening, the topic is As the new term begins, what should we include in a first lesson(s) with a ...
Shaunwilden 2:00 PM Thanks all for joining see you later #eltchat
cherrymp 2:00 PM @teflerinha @worldteacher Most often the learning ends up without being able to apply.\#eltchat
rliberni 2:00 PM RT @Shaunwilden: If you are around this evening, the topic is As the new term begins, what should we include in a first lesson(s) with a ...
rliberni 2:00 PM OK some good points and ideas & links here - thanx everyone for another fab session & to the magnificent @Shaunwilden  my co-mod #eltchat
Shaunwilden 2:00 PM If you are around this evening, the topic is As the new term begins, what should we include in a first lesson(s) with a new group...#eltchat
worldteacher 2:00 PM RT @cioccas: Thanks to our fab mods of #ELTchat and all the chatters! Good night all :) >Night, Lesley!
worldteacher 2:01 PM RT @cherrymp: @teflerinha @worldteacher Most often the learning ends up without being able to apply.\#eltchat >IME too!
elawassell 2:01 PM Thanks everybody for your great ideas! It was a good chat!
AlexandraKouk 2:01 PM RT @teflerinha: #eltchat Really enjoyed today's chat-loads of food for thought. Thanks everyone.
worldteacher 2:01 PM RT @teflerinha: @cherrymp @worldteacher Likely to work better for such students, I guess. #eltchat >Works but not supported by understanding

 

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