| username |
time |
status |
| Shaunwilden |
12:00 PM |
The 12BST #eltchat is What do we do when a lesson goes horribly wrong? How do you cope and recover? welcome everyone |
| Shaunwilden |
12:03 PM |
I am not sure what horribly wrong means in this context - does it mean off plan, no books, powercut? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:04 PM |
RT @naomishema: Hi all! I think horribly wrong means losing the students - not cooperating, not understanding #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:04 PM |
Hi all! I think horribly wrong means losing the students - not cooperating, not understanding #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:05 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @naomishema: Hi all! I think horribly wrong means losing the students - not cooperating, not understanding #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:05 PM |
@theteacherjames Meet your expectations? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:05 PM |
@Shaunwilden I guess I was thinking about when it doesn't meet your expectations, or the sts. But could be other ways too. #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:06 PM |
@Shaunwilden @naomishema I'd be inclined to add major tech fails to that list, too #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:06 PM |
@Shaunwilden What you hoped would happen in a lesson. When you get that feeling it's slipping away... #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:06 PM |
Seems quiet today is everyone off enjoying the sun? #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:07 PM |
@Shaunwilden term has just ended for most people - am guessing many will on holiday #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:07 PM |
It's happened to everyone. That feeling you have when you think, hold on, this isn't what I wanted, & the sts look confused. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:07 PM |
@naomishema Yes me too, hate the heat wish it would get cold and rainy again :-) #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:07 PM |
@Shaunwilden ENJOY the sun?! here we're trying to escape it, LOL! #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:08 PM |
I don't think major tech failure is HORRIBLY wrong since if SS R with U then U can move to plan B. HORRIBLE is when SS look glazed #eltchat |
| EBEFL |
12:08 PM |
Choose another student. Same question. Teaching assistant says "her dad too" yikes! #eltchat |
| EBEFL |
12:08 PM |
Asking about family one class. Choose student "what's your dad do?" no answer. Teaching assist informs me dad died! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:08 PM |
@esolcourses I was avoiding saying that for fear of givving a red rag to non-techs :-) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:09 PM |
@EBEFL Now that is a situation tis hard to dig oneself out of :-) #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:09 PM |
@EBEFL I bet you never did that again! #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:09 PM |
RT @lexicojules: I always try to remember Ss don't know what's in your lesson plan, so if you go 'off plan', they won't know the difference! #ELTchat |
| esolcourses |
12:09 PM |
@Shaunwilden Ha ha! Fact of life though if you teach with tech that things sometimes go wrong and you need to be able to deal #eltchat |
| lexicojules |
12:09 PM |
I always try to remember Ss don't know what's in your lesson plan, so if you go 'off plan', they won't know the difference! #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:09 PM |
RT @IHLakeComo: @Shaunwilden @naomishema Not an easy question. Most of the time the solution is not to lose your nerve...#eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:10 PM |
@naomishema @Shaunwilden in a way yes, Naomi - though if tech fails it can disrupt flow and may be hard to get attention back #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:10 PM |
@lexicojules True, but they know when it's going wrong. Their reaction is normally the first sign. #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:10 PM |
@lexicojules I agree that's 1 of the reasons I was unsure about 'horribly wrong' #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:11 PM |
@esolcourses disruptive when tech fails but didn't click for me with "horribly" the way other options do #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:11 PM |
@esolcourses True, i guess it depends on the scale of the tech being used #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:12 PM |
@EBEFL wow, that certainly classifies for this! #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:12 PM |
@EBEFL :-) #eltchat |
| heikephilp |
12:12 PM |
RT @ShellTerrell: You Are Invited to 4 Free Education Technology Webinars! http://t.co/oXSmtA4v #edchat #eltchat |
| EBEFL |
12:12 PM |
@theteacherjames afterwards asked "any of the other 35 students without dads?" teaching assistant "no... Just those two" #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:13 PM |
@Shaunwilden @naomishema agree that it depends on scale of tech, along with student perceptions/expectations #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:13 PM |
@EBEFL So tell us, what did you do? How did you recover the situation? #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:14 PM |
RT @lexicojules: IKeep quick fillers up your sleeve if Ss are flagging. Sometimes a brief change of pace gets them back & gives you thinking time. #ELTchat |
| lexicojules |
12:14 PM |
IKeep quick fillers up your sleeve if Ss are flagging. Sometimes a brief change of pace gets them back & gives you thinking time. #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:14 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: So horribly wrong can be everything from tech failure to not meeting exceptions - i guess then there are different solutions #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:14 PM |
So horribly wrong can be everything from tech failure to not meeting exceptions - i guess then there are different solutions #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:15 PM |
RT @lexicojules: IKeep quick fillers up your sleeve if Ss are flagging. Sometimes a change of pace gets them back #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:16 PM |
Once a student just flat refused to do an activity I'd given them. She said she didn't like it. That was a learning experience! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:16 PM |
@EBEFL I've seen that before DELTA obs so many times :-) #eltchat |
| EBEFL |
12:16 PM |
#eltchat DELTA observed lesson...handout miscount...sheer terror. Had no choice but to run upstairs and copy like mad. |
| Shaunwilden |
12:16 PM |
@lexicojules So is sts flagging an example of horribly wrong? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:17 PM |
@theteacherjames I have to admit as a student i have said that to teachers (and have asked them the aim of activities ;-) #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:17 PM |
Of course, I realised later she was right. The activity was rubbish. Just wish I'd found out in a nicer way. #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:18 PM |
RT @EBEFL: @theteacherjames what can you do? the kids looked more embarrassed than upset. Just moved on... #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:18 PM |
If u didn't photocpy enough (or discovered machine spewed out blank pages in the middle) u must turn it into a group activity #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:18 PM |
@Shaunwilden She was just so rude about it, that was the thing that made it awkward. #eltchat |
| FatimaFatima28 |
12:18 PM |
Hello everybody! #eltchat |
| lexicojules |
12:18 PM |
@shaunwilden Yes sometimes your fault, sometimes just their mood, but you reach a point where it's just not working. #ELTchat |
| esolcourses |
12:18 PM |
@Shaunwilden @lexicojules depends how much they are flagging, I suppose, and whether it threatens to send lesson right off track #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:19 PM |
@EBEFL It's true, best not dwell on it I suppose. (don't forget the #eltchat hashtag!) |
| Shaunwilden |
12:19 PM |
@lexicojules Oh i think teachers can be a fault a lot - pushing on even if sts dont get it, not reading class etc #eltchat |
| josefinap6 |
12:20 PM |
eltchat |
| heikephilp |
12:20 PM |
HELLO TO RT @leoselivan: hello #eltchat I am here with 19 passionate & dedicated educators from Azerbaijan. |
| Shaunwilden |
12:20 PM |
@leoselivan can you all tell us what you do when lessons go wrong? #eltchat |
| lexicojules |
12:20 PM |
@esolcourses Yes if just 1 or 2 Ss you can push on, but there's critical point where they all glaze over & you have to change tack #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:20 PM |
@leoselivan Hi Leo and everyone. Jump into the chat, we'd love to know what they think! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:20 PM |
@leoselivan Hi Leo and everyone ther, welcome to #eltchat |
| Sevinc8996 |
12:20 PM |
RT @FatimaFatima28: Hello everybody! #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
12:20 PM |
hello #eltchat I am here with 19 passionate & dedicated educators from Azerbaijan. Pls welcome us! Some r registering on Twitter as we speak |
| vickyloras |
12:21 PM |
RT @JoshSRound: Do u know sts who want work experience in Ldn? SGI looking for intern from mid Aug (EU, B1-C1) |
| arrudamatos |
12:21 PM |
Following #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
12:21 PM |
@Shaunwilden reflect and try to do better next time perhaps? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:21 PM |
@vickyloras Hi Vicky, what do you do when lessons go wrong? #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
12:21 PM |
Here too, late tho ; ) #ELTchat |
| tamaslorincz |
12:21 PM |
@leoselivan #eltchat That's awesome, Leo. |
| theteacherjames |
12:21 PM |
@EBEFL That's what I mean by 'horribly wrong'! #eltchat |
| tamaslorincz |
12:22 PM |
In most cases I have the students tell me what they thought went wrong, like my proverbial 7 am Justin Bieber lesson Ouchhh #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:22 PM |
@esolcourses made!!! thats a bit harsh! #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:22 PM |
@theteacherjames that sure sounds like a learning experience. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:22 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @lexicojules That's really important, having the confidence to stop, acknowledge it's not working & move on. #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:22 PM |
@Shaunwilden @EBEFL Was made to use material I thought was rubbish in an observed lesson once. Crashed and burned spectacularly ;-) #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:22 PM |
@Shaunwilden @lexicojules That's really important, having the confidence to stop, acknowledge it's not working & move on. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:22 PM |
@leoselivan Fair point but what do you do during the lesson when you know its going wrong? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:23 PM |
@tamaslorincz That's quite a brave thing to do though isnt it - it could really undermine a tchrs confidence #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:23 PM |
@michaelegriffin It was for me, but not for her! #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:24 PM |
horribly wrong for me lately was one student running out in tears based on what another s said #eltchat |
| OfeliyaG |
12:25 PM |
@leoselivan thanks Leo #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:25 PM |
@tamaslorincz 7am Bieber lesson - that sounds like the stuff of legend! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:25 PM |
@tamaslorincz Dont get me wrong, I'd do the same but I think an inexperienced tchr might find it a hard thing to do #eltchat |
| tamaslorincz |
12:25 PM |
@theteacherjames LOL! #Eltchat |
| Samiratey |
12:25 PM |
@ELTchat hello everybody |
| vickyloras |
12:25 PM |
@Shaunwilden I sit down after and reflect - think what route the lesson took (or didn't),why,what I did or didn't do #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:25 PM |
My worse moments are always when I think I can explain some linguistic or grammar point, get half way through & realise I can't! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:25 PM |
@michaelegriffin Gosh that's quite the scenario, what did you do? #eltchat |
| lexicojules |
12:25 PM |
@shaunwilden absolutely, I think a lot is about confidence to admit sth is not working & do sth different. #ELTchat |
| tamaslorincz |
12:25 PM |
@Shaunwilden It's not brave, just honest and I think students do appreciate it and it helps you the next time around. #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:25 PM |
@Shaunwilden harsh but true! It was on a course. Wasn't given the option to pick, & had to stick to lesson plan. Was truly awful! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:26 PM |
@esolcourses Quite!!! #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
12:26 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @Shaunwilden @lexicojules That's really important, having the confidence to stop, acknowledge it's not working & move on. #eltchat |
| lexicojules |
12:26 PM |
@michaelegriffin Personal stuff is always tough as it's out of your control. I've had Ss in teasr before too. #ELTchat |
| vickyloras |
12:26 PM |
@leoselivan Hello Leo and teachers in Azerbaijan, from a teacher in Switzerland : ) Enjoy the session and Twitter : ))) #ELTchat |
| esolcourses |
12:26 PM |
@Shaunwilden what it taught me tho in the longer run was to trust my own judgement when it comes to using mats & planning lessons #eltchat |
| EBEFL |
12:26 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: My worse moments are always when I think I can explain some linguistic or grammar point, get half way through & realise I can't! #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
12:27 PM |
@Shaunwilden If it was a really flunky idea, I don't do it again or I just think of adjusting it later on #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:27 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: @theteacherjames lol...right . I guess we can't be 100% sure ss will do what we ask (esp if it's rubbish) #eltchat |
| Samiratey |
12:27 PM |
Hi Leo , and ALL :) #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:27 PM |
@michaelegriffin As I said, she was right, but so damn rude about. Very un-Korean of her! #eltchat |
| Ideas_Factory |
12:27 PM |
RT @russell1955: RT @brad5patterson: RT @marisa_c: http://t.co/VqaNV2Cy Bloggers - you can get sued for using images on your blog #eltchat #edchat #efl #esl |
| michaelegriffin |
12:27 PM |
@Shaunwilden took a break ! #ELTchat |
| lexicojules |
12:28 PM |
@theteacherjames We've all been there! Takes real confidence to admit you don't know then! I do now, but only after 20 yrs exp. #ELTchat |
| Breisath |
12:28 PM |
Following #eltchat |
| tamaslorincz |
12:28 PM |
@theteacherjames Well, it was @seanbanville's fault, ;-) It sounded like such a brilliant lesson I just forgot to consider my sts #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:28 PM |
Reflection is good after the lesson but doesnt help much as things crumble before us, does it? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:28 PM |
@vickyloras But what do you do during the lesson? During the car crash? #ELTchat |
| leoselivan |
12:28 PM |
@vickyloras hi Vicky good to see you #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:29 PM |
@lexicojules yes, it's a big step. #ELTchat |
| vickyloras |
12:29 PM |
@theteacherjames I either stop it altogether and try to smoothly go to another idea, or I try to adjust/change it #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:29 PM |
@tamaslorincz haha, don't pass the buck!! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:29 PM |
What advice can we give about stopping the 'car crash' and saving the lesson? #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:30 PM |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat be flexible,smile, don't blame ss, try something new, move around and change gears |
| theteacherjames |
12:30 PM |
Do you acknowledge the problem to your sts or do you try and pretend it's all part of the plan? #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:30 PM |
@theteacherjames sometimes the teacher jsut has to say, u know what, lets nOT do this activity #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:30 PM |
@vickyloras @theteacherjames So what we're saying is stopping is ok don't be afraid to do it #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
12:30 PM |
RT @vickyloras: @theteacherjames I either stop it altogether and try to smoothly go to another idea, or I try to adjust/change it #ELTchat |
| esolcourses |
12:31 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden RT @michaelegriffin @Shaunwilden #eltchat be flexible,smile, don't blame ss, try something new, move around and change gears |
| naomishema |
12:31 PM |
@theteacherjames right! #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:31 PM |
@Raquel_EFL Oi! #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:31 PM |
@Shaunwilden @vickyloras @naomishema The alternative (carrying on anyway) is so much worse. #eltchat |
| OksanYagar |
12:31 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: @Shaunwilden #eltchat be flexible,smile, don't blame ss, try something new, move around and change gears |
| naomishema |
12:31 PM |
#eltchat sorry - missed a bit! the neighbor and the phone had to talk now! |
| BobK99 |
12:31 PM |
@riberni The website says first #eltchat at 3.00 London Time - izzat so? |
| Shaunwilden |
12:31 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: @Shaunwilden #eltchat be flexible,smile, don't blame ss, try something new, move around and change gears |
| theteacherjames |
12:32 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: @Shaunwilden #eltchat be flexible,smile, don't blame ss, try something new, move around and change gears |
| lexicojules |
12:32 PM |
I find a quick physical filler activity quickly changes the mood. Ss forget dull/rubbish activity & ready to move onto next thing #ELTchat |
| naomishema |
12:32 PM |
Welcome to Leo and new teacher to #eltchat! |
| Shaunwilden |
12:32 PM |
@EBEFL i always remember a session I saw years ago where Penny Ur described hangman as pointless busyness :-) #eltchat |
| tamaslorincz |
12:32 PM |
@Shaunwilden @vickyloras @theteacherjames I agree it turned into a really good lesson once stopped and reworked the lesson #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:33 PM |
RT @vickyloras: @Shaunwilden @theteacherjames I say yes to stopping, it didn't work - no problem #ELTchat ] agree. |
| theteacherjames |
12:33 PM |
@Raquel_EFL Thanks, it was my suggestion! happens to everyone, doesn't it? How do you cope? #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
12:33 PM |
@Shaunwilden @theteacherjames Sometimes teachers (incl.myself) can be self-flagellating - we shld be ok w/admitting sth went wrong #ELTchat |
| BobK99 |
12:33 PM |
Catching up. Life intervened (in the shape of a new garage to fit out! #eltchat |
| taira_akhundova |
12:33 PM |
@Shaunwilden @EBEFL she has a good point #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
12:33 PM |
@Shaunwilden @theteacherjames I say yes to stopping, it didn't work - no problem #ELTchat |
| naomishema |
12:33 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @EBEFL i always remember a session ...where Penny Ur described hangman as pointless busyness :-) #eltchat kids love it! |
| Shaunwilden |
12:34 PM |
@Samiratey it fills time but what does it really achieve #eltchat |
| lexicojules |
12:34 PM |
@theteacherjames Depends on the Ss - adults might like honesty, teenagers prob better just to move on & look confident? #ELTchat |
| vickyloras |
12:34 PM |
RT @tamaslorincz: @Shaunwilden @vickyloras @theteacherjames I agree it turned into a really good lesson once stopped and reworked the lesson #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:34 PM |
RT @vickyloras: @theteacherjames Sometimes tchers (incl.myself) can be self-flagellating - we shld be ok w/admitting sth went wrong #ELTchat |
| vickyloras |
12:34 PM |
@Raquel_EFL Absolutely, Raquel! Keeping the flow of the lesson, right on #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:34 PM |
RT @vickyloras: @Shaunwilden @theteacherjames Sometimes teachers (incl.myself) can be self-flagellating - we shld be ok w/admitting sth went wrong #ELTchat |
| Samiratey |
12:34 PM |
@Shaunwilden How can it be described as a pointless business? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:35 PM |
RT @lexicojules: @theteacherjames Depends on the Ss - adults might like honesty, teenagers prob better just to move on & look confident? #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:35 PM |
@vickyloras This is a big problem I think, some people can be far too self-critical. It might just need a tweak. #ELTchat |
| naomishema |
12:35 PM |
RT @vickyloras: Sometimes it is a specific group that it doesn't work with - one idea doesn't work for everyone #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:35 PM |
@Raquel_EFL Agreed but a lot of tchers stick to their plan or lack the experience to go with flow #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
12:35 PM |
Sometimes it is a specific group that it doesn't work with - one idea doesn't work for everyone #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:35 PM |
@Raquel_EFL @Shaunwilden But you know most teachers have their lesson plan, and they like to stick to it! #eltchat |
| Samiratey |
12:36 PM |
@theteacherjames lesson plan always helps to be organised #eltchat |
| Samiratey |
12:37 PM |
@Shaunwilden why not? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:37 PM |
@lexicojules I wasnt talking about fillers per se just remembering sth about hangman :-) #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
12:37 PM |
RT @naomishema: I don't think major tech failure is HORRIBLY wrong since if SS R with U then U can move to plan B. HORRIBLE is when SS look glazed #eltchat |
| EBEFL |
12:37 PM |
@Shaunwilden yeah I've not actually used it but it seems like many do. I usually just grind on sinking deeper into the mire. #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:37 PM |
@Samiratey Sure, but it shouldn't mean that the teacher can't change things. #eltchat |
| 12_konul |
12:37 PM |
@theteacherjames it happens to me too (halfway through an explanationI mean) #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
12:37 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @vickyloras This is a big problem I think, some people can be far too self-critical. It might just need a tweak. #ELTchat |
| purple_steph |
12:37 PM |
#eltchat Hi, sorry for joining late - just catching up on the chat so far. |
| michaelegriffin |
12:37 PM |
@theteacherjames @vickyloras #eltchat or maybe it was just that group on the day for any variety if reasons |
| Shaunwilden |
12:37 PM |
@Samiratey Organized (before a lesson) yes but its not something one should stick to #eltchat |
| lexicojules |
12:37 PM |
@shaunwilden I think there are 'useful' fillers though. And the point here is to change the pace/start afresh, so not 'pointless' #ELTchat |
| naomishema |
12:37 PM |
@Samiratey lesson plan is the basis, but changes must be made accordingly #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:38 PM |
@lexicojules Completely agree #eltchat |
| purple_steph |
12:38 PM |
#eltchat If you have to stop / change pace or activity it's important to keep emotions in check, not look flustered or panicky. |
| naomishema |
12:38 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @michaelegriffin @vickyloras Yes, I've taught the same lesson to two classes back to back. First one - great, second one - average. #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:38 PM |
@michaelegriffin @vickyloras Yes, I've taught the same lesson to two classes back to back. First one - great, second one - average. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:38 PM |
@Samiratey Why not what? The plan? Well it is unlikely that the lesson will unfold exactly as it's been planned #eltchat |
| lexicojules |
12:38 PM |
@shaunwilden Building some flexibility into your lesson plan is good, I think #ELTchat |
| naomishema |
12:38 PM |
Has anyone mentioned those situations when something happened just before class and SS r too excited to concentrate? #eltchat |
| tamaslorincz |
12:38 PM |
Sometimes Me: "Ouch that lesson was really cr**." Sts: "Good job." or the other way round. Me: Great class Them: C*** #eltchat Hard to know. |
| Teachersilvert |
12:39 PM |
hello all #eltchat. How about a ready made back up plan in case you run out of ...ideas...electricity...energy altogether? |
| naomishema |
12:39 PM |
@purple_steph I think not looking panicly can come with experience unless u are a very relaxed person anyway! LOL! #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
12:39 PM |
RT @esolcourses: RT @lexicojules: IKeep quick fillers up your sleeve if Ss are flagging. Sometimes a change of pace gets them back #ELTchat |
| DanielaArghir |
12:39 PM |
@vickyloras: "Sometimes it is a specific group that it doesn't work with" - this is so true, it happened to me just this year #ELTchat |
| lexicojules |
12:39 PM |
@tamaslorincz Yes, very true! #ELTchat |
| tamaslorincz |
12:39 PM |
@michaelegriffin Absolutely. #ELTCHAT |
| lexicojules |
12:39 PM |
@shaunwilden I know :-) #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:39 PM |
@12_konul How do you recover? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:40 PM |
@Teachersilvert So you're suggesting plan twice? ;-) #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:40 PM |
RT @purple_steph: @theteacherjames @michaelegriffin @vickyloras I find that too - sometimes great lessons can't be repeated with another group #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:40 PM |
RT @vickyloras: Sometimes it is a specific group that it doesn't work with - one idea doesn't work for everyone #ELTchat |
| purple_steph |
12:40 PM |
@theteacherjames @michaelegriffin @vickyloras I find that too - sometimes great lessons can't be repeated with another group #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:41 PM |
@12_konul @lexicojules I'd start at the website of Dave and Jane Willis - http://t.co/zibSPD0m #eltchat |
| EBEFL |
12:41 PM |
@tamaslorincz completely agree with this! Students are a constant mystery #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
12:41 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: @theteacherjames @vickyloras #eltchat or maybe it was just that group on the day for any variety if reasons |
| esolcourses |
12:42 PM |
RT @theteacherjames of the benefits of teaching one to one is that you can quickly see in their face whether it's working or not. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:42 PM |
@theteacherjames But surely you can do that with a class as well - reading body language is always a must #eltchat |
| DanielaArghir |
12:42 PM |
@naomishema: "situations when something happened just before class" - or DURING - it started snowing!!! impressionable 11 year olds #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:42 PM |
@EBEFL @tamaslorincz But thats one of the things that makes teaching fun isnt it :-) #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:42 PM |
One of the benefits of teaching one to one is that you can quickly see in their face whether it's working or not. #eltchat |
| purple_steph |
12:42 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Teachersilvert like measure twice, cut once #eltchat |
| purple_steph |
12:43 PM |
@theteacherjames @michaelegriffin @vickyloras agree #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:43 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @purple_steph @michaelegriffin @vickyloras Reminds us to think of each class differently & to leave space to customise. #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:43 PM |
@DanielaArghir I can imagine it! #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:43 PM |
@purple_steph @michaelegriffin @vickyloras Reminds us to think of each class differently & to leave space to customise. #eltchat |
| Teachersilvert |
12:43 PM |
@Shaunwilden totally. You never know what's coming up #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:44 PM |
@Teachersilvert It's always a good idea to have some back up activities just in case. Any favourites you can share? #eltchat |
| liqas7 |
12:44 PM |
eltchat |
| purple_steph |
12:44 PM |
RT @feedtheteacher: It's important not to become a hostage of your own lesson plan. Lessons are organic and can be changed if sth goes wrong #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:44 PM |
RT @feedtheteacher: It's important not to become a hostage of your own lesson plan. Lessons are organic and can be changed if sth goes wrong #eltchat |
| feedtheteacher |
12:44 PM |
It's important not to become a hostage of your own lesson plan. Lessons are organic and can be changed if sth goes wrong #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:44 PM |
@Shaunwilden True, but 1-2- it's much quicker & you don't have to worry about whether some like it, some don't etc. #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
12:45 PM |
RT @purple_steph: #eltchat If you have to stop / change pace or activity it's impt keep emotions in check... >Yes, they cn smell your fear! |
| aClilToClimb |
12:45 PM |
Lesson plans shd be like programming, full of conditionals ;) |
| Shaunwilden |
12:45 PM |
RT @feedtheteacher: It's imp not to become a hostage of your own lesson plan. Lessons are organic &can be changed if sth goes wrong #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
12:45 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @purple_steph @michaelegriffin @vickyloras Reminds us to think of each class differently & to leave space to customise. #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:45 PM |
RT @feedtheteacher It's important not to become a hostage of yr lesson plan. Lessons are organic & can be changed if sth goes wrong #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:45 PM |
@theteacherjames i dont worry I deal with those showing negative BL and let those that are happy get on with it ;-) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:46 PM |
RT @Teachersilvert: @Samiratey iAlso a part of adventure, scary and bumpy might add up to the fun. Letting go is sometimes worth it #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:46 PM |
#eltchat it might be a bit offtopic but I think there's also something to b said for not just giving immediately if things don look perfect |
| TtMadridTEFL |
12:46 PM |
@Shaunwilden There's no perfect teacher :) It happens! To bounce back, next lesson do a familiar one to build up ur confidence! #eltchat |
| tamaslorincz |
12:46 PM |
RT @feedtheteacher: @theteacherjames @Teachersilvert #eltchat closing the coursebook & listening to your students can be a great way to get things back in track |
| theteacherjames |
12:46 PM |
RT @feedtheteacher: It's important not to become a hostage of your own lesson plan. Lessons are organic and can be changed if sth goes wrong #eltchat |
| Teachersilvert |
12:46 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Samiratey indeed. Also a part of adventure, scary and bumpy might add up to the fun. Letting go is sometimes worth it #eltchat |
| feedtheteacher |
12:46 PM |
@theteacherjames @Teachersilvert #eltchat closing the coursebook & listening to your students can be a great way to get things back in track |
| esolcourses |
12:46 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @aClilToClimb: Lesson plans shd be like programming, full of conditionals ;) #eltchat :-) :-) |
| DanielaArghir |
12:46 PM |
@theteacherjames @Teachersilvert "back up activities just in case" - I teach young learners, Bingo works well ;-) #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
12:46 PM |
@theteacherjames @purple_steph @michaelegriffin Well-put James - could be sth to introduce more flexibility, which is good #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:46 PM |
@Shaunwilden That's one way of dealing with it, yes. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:46 PM |
RT @aClilToClimb: Lesson plans shd be like programming, full of conditionals ;) #eltchat :-) :-) |
| theteacherjames |
12:46 PM |
@Raquel_EFL Which is a good thing and a bad, I suppose! #eltchat |
| angelamelendez |
12:47 PM |
RT @feedtheteacher: It's important not to become a hostage of your own lesson plan. Lessons are organic and can be changed if sth goes wrong #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:47 PM |
@michaelegriffin Dont think it is off topic, it's a valid point :-) #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:47 PM |
RT @feedtheteacher @theteacherjames @Teachersilvert #eltchat closing the coursebook & listening to s' can get things back on track #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:47 PM |
oops, meant erasing words for disappearing text! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:47 PM |
@TtMadridTEFL Agreed no perfect teacher and no such thing as a perfect lesson #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:47 PM |
Fav back-up acitivity - disappearing text. if SS R all excitied about snow, lets write about it on board &start erasing sentences. #eltchat |
| DanielaArghir |
12:48 PM |
@naomishema I know #eltchat |
| englishbanana |
12:48 PM |
RT @feedtheteacher: @theteacherjames @Teachersilvert #eltchat closing the coursebook & listening to your students can be a great way to get things back in track |
| theteacherjames |
12:48 PM |
RT @DanielaArghir: @theteacherjames @Teachersilvert "back up activities just in case" - I teach young learners, Bingo works well ;-) #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:48 PM |
@feedtheteacher @Teachersilvert yes, that's a great statement of intent & an excellent way to change the mood & pace of the lesson. #eltchat |
| lexicojules |
12:48 PM |
If I'm getting flustered/frustrated I often give the Ss a task & leave the room for a few mins to calm down, then start again #ELTchat |
| DanielaArghir |
12:48 PM |
RT @naomishema: Fav back-up acitivity - disappearing text. if SS R all excitied about snow, lets write about it on board &start erasing sentences. #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:49 PM |
I used to teach teachers, so once, when an activity wasn't working out, I asked them what they would do to fix it. Training! #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:49 PM |
Important 2 devote time in lesson planning to INSTRUCTIONS ! Some good lessons fail cause ss don't understand what u want them2 do #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:49 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: @Shaunwilden then I think it becomes about repair rather than drastic changes #eltchat |
| TtMadridTEFL |
12:49 PM |
RT @esolcourses: RT @feedtheteacher @theteacherjames @Teachersilvert #eltchat closing the coursebook & listening to s' can get things back on track #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:49 PM |
@Shaunwilden then I think it becomes about repair rather than drastic changes #eltchat |
| tamaslorincz |
12:50 PM |
@theteacherjames It's the best thing. I used to tell them to watch my mistakes and tell me how they would have done it differently #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
12:50 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: I used to teach teachers, so once, when an activity wasn't working out, I asked them what they would do to fix it. Training! #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
12:50 PM |
@theteacherjames Super idea!!! #ELTChat |
| vickyloras |
12:50 PM |
RT @naomishema: Important 2 devote time in lesson planning to INSTRUCTIONS ! Some good lessons fail cause ss don't understand what u want them2 do #eltchat |
| feedtheteacher |
12:50 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: I used to teach teachers, so once, when an activity wasn't working out, I asked them what they would do to fix it. Training! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:50 PM |
@michaelegriffin And by repair you mean reset a task, get on the spot feedback about the activity etc? #eltchat |
| purple_steph |
12:50 PM |
@michaelegriffin think you're right. Sometimes it's a case of classroom culture clash - good activity alien at first to some sts. #eltchat |
| Teachersilvert |
12:51 PM |
think of the" tarte Tatin" which came up from a mishap. See teaching as a way to cope, bounce back and get back into the game. #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:51 PM |
@michaelegriffin I think it's vital that the teacher doesn't discard the lesson. For PD they should reflect on it & improve it. #eltchat |
| EBEFL |
12:51 PM |
@michaelegriffin @shaunwilden sometimes they don't like/ can't do what they're learning but material choice may not be yours #eltchat |
| TtMadridTEFL |
12:51 PM |
@michaelegriffin agreed! sometimes stay confident even if u think it might go down the "wrong" path, there could b light at the end #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
12:52 PM |
RT @naomishema: Important 2 devote time in lesson planning to INSTRUCTIONS ! ... >Cdn't agree more - reh'rse in a mirror, viva voce #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:52 PM |
@purple_steph #eltchat great point!! I think a lack of learner training can BMW blamed for a lot of stuff that seems disastrous |
| theteacherjames |
12:52 PM |
RT @tamaslorincz: @theteacherjames It's the best thing. I used to tell them to watch my mistakes and tell me how they would have done it differently #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:52 PM |
@vickyloras It was an inspired moment! they are few and far between!! #ELTChat |
| vickyloras |
12:53 PM |
@theteacherjames Nawww I am sure there are lots in your classes! #ELTchat |
| tamaslorincz |
12:53 PM |
@Raquel_EFL @theteacherjames I absolutely agree with that. I think it's only T's arrogance that can lead to a disasterous lesson #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:53 PM |
@Raquel_EFL true, but you need to have acquired certain teaching skills to do that. What would you say to a new teacher? #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:53 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @michaelegriffin I think it's vital that the teacher doesn't discard the lesson. For PD they should reflect on it & improve it. #eltchat |
| Teachersilvert |
12:54 PM |
Making a video of the students when things went wrong with a class and discuss it afterwards really helped me out smtimes #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
12:54 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @michaelegriffin I think it's vital that the teacher doesn't discard the lesson. For PD they should reflect on it & improve it. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:54 PM |
@theteacherjames Don't panic #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:54 PM |
#eltchat I'm also thinking that a lot times something feel horrible to the teacher but ss might not really notice #Pollyanna |
| Shaunwilden |
12:54 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: What would you say to a new teacher? How would you advise them to deal with this inevitable situation? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:54 PM |
What would you say to a new teacher? How would you advise them to deal with this inevitable situation? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:54 PM |
@Teachersilvert Well theres a new analogy for me (as a keen cook I like it :-)) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:55 PM |
Ok 5 mins to go time for a willing volunteer to stand up and claim the summary duties :-) #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:55 PM |
@EBEFL very true...sometimes Ts font have much choice on that #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:55 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @theteacherjames Don't panic #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:55 PM |
RT @vickyloras: @Shaunwilden @theteacherjames That it is ok if something doesn't work,switch to another activity &after reflect on what happened #ELTchat |
| Teachersilvert |
12:55 PM |
@Shaunwilden at least you get the pie to eat in the end, worth it ;) #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:55 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: What would you say to a new teacher? How would you advise them to deal with this inevitable situation? #eltchat |
| mytowntutors |
12:55 PM |
RT @cybraryman1: My Lesson Plans page: http://t.co/xXPLzKX0 #eltchat #edchat #ntchat #elemchat “He who fails to plan, plans to fail†|
| vickyloras |
12:55 PM |
@Shaunwilden @theteacherjames That it is ok if something doesn't work,switch to another activity &after reflect on what happened #ELTchat |
| cybraryman1 |
12:55 PM |
My Lesson Plans page: http://t.co/xXPLzKX0 #eltchat #edchat #ntchat #elemchat “He who fails to plan, plans to fail†|
| michaelegriffin |
12:56 PM |
RT @vickyloras: @Shaunwilden @theteacherjames I would also tell new teachers that "bad" lessons are a great learning exp-feel horrible,but happens #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:56 PM |
RT @BobK99: RT @naomishema: Important 2 devote time in lesson planning to INSTRUCTIONS ! ... >Cdn't agree more - reh'rse in a mirror, viva voce #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
12:56 PM |
@Shaunwilden @theteacherjames I would also tell new teachers that "bad" lessons are a great learning exp-feel horrible,but happens #ELTchat |
| vickyloras |
12:57 PM |
RT @feedtheteacher: @TtMadridTEFL it's important not to 'mask' when things go wrong. It could b an important lesson for sts, error,trial,correction #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:57 PM |
RT @TtMadridTEFL: @theteacherjames To new teachers: My fav quote "making mistakes shows you're trying!" followed by "don't worry, NOONE died" lol #eltchat |
| TtMadridTEFL |
12:57 PM |
@theteacherjames To new teachers: My fav quote "making mistakes shows you're trying!" followed by "don't worry, NOONE died" lol #eltchat |
| TeacherDevTrust |
12:57 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @michaelegriffin I think it's vital that the teacher doesn't discard the lesson. For PD they should reflect on it & improve it. #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:57 PM |
RT @vickyloras: @Shaunwilden @theteacherjames I would also tell new teachers that "bad" lessons are a great learning exp-feel horrible,but happens #ELTchat |
| purple_steph |
12:57 PM |
RT @vickyloras: @Shaunwilden @theteacherjames I would also tell new teachers that "bad" lessons are a great learning exp-feel horrible,but happens #ELTchat |
| feedtheteacher |
12:57 PM |
@TtMadridTEFL it's important not to 'mask' when things go wrong. It could b an important lesson for sts, error,trial,correction #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:57 PM |
RT @vickyloras: @Shaunwilden @theteacherjames I would also tell new teachers that "bad" lessons are a great learning experience #ELTchat |
| vickyloras |
12:57 PM |
@Shaunwilden Me me!! Can I do the summary? #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:58 PM |
@vickyloras @Shaunwilden Thanks Vicky! #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:58 PM |
@Raquel_EFL @Shaunwilden Absolutely! #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:58 PM |
GTG - thanks for another really interesting and stimulating #Eltchat! Catch you later, hopefully :-) |
| tamaslorincz |
12:59 PM |
@esolcourses Bye Sue, it was good to see you #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:59 PM |
@vickyloras Super thanks :-) #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:59 PM |
What's the topic of next chat? #eltchat |
| naomishema |
12:59 PM |
What's the topic of next chat? eltchat |
| tamaslorincz |
1:00 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: The 21 BST #eltchat will be The grammar teachers ought to know… and often don't. |
| vickyloras |
1:00 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: The 21 BST #eltchat will be The grammar teachers ought to know… and often don't. |
| michaelegriffin |
1:00 PM |
“@Shaunwilden: The 21 BST #eltchat will be The grammar teachers ought to know… and often don't.†cc @AlexSWalsh |
| Shaunwilden |
1:00 PM |
The 21 BST #eltchat will be The grammar teachers ought to know… and often don't. |
| vickyloras |
1:00 PM |
@theteacherjames @shaunwilden A pleasure! Recharged after my holiday and good to go : ) #ELTchat |
| Teachersilvert |
1:01 PM |
thanks for another great #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
1:01 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: The 21 BST #eltchat will be The grammar teachers ought to know… and often don't. |
| theteacherjames |
1:01 PM |
If you'd like to get involved with the #eltchat podcast, DM me. I'm always looking for volunteers. |
| TeachLizHanton |
1:01 PM |
RT @feedtheteacher: It's important not to become a hostage of your own lesson plan. Lessons are organic and can be changed if sth goes wrong #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
1:01 PM |
Thanks to @theteacherjames for comoderating with me and everyone for joining after a slow start a lot was said, thanks everyone :-) #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
1:01 PM |
Thanks for interesting #eltchat !! |
| theteacherjames |
1:02 PM |
Cheers @Shaunwilden and thanks to everyone for a great chat! #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
1:02 PM |
RT @TtMadridTEFL... To new teachers: My fav quote "..., NOONE died" lol #eltchat >or to q my pa If tha nivvr med a mistek tha nivvr med owt |
| TtMadridTEFL |
1:02 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Thanks to @theteacherjames for comoderating with me and everyone for joining after a slow start a lot was said, thanks everyone :-) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
1:02 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: If you'd like to get involved with the #eltchat podcast, DM me. I'm always looking for volunteers. |
| tamaslorincz |
1:03 PM |
Thanks for the great chat, so glad to have been here. #eltchat |
| vickyloras |
1:03 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: If you'd like to get involved with the #eltchat podcast, DM me. I'm always looking for volunteers. |
| TtMadridTEFL |
1:03 PM |
@Shaunwilden @theteacherjames - how often do these happen? this was great! I'd love to participate n spread the word :) #eltchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
1:03 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: If you'd like to get involved with the #eltchat podcast, DM me. I'm always looking for volunteers. |
| Shaunwilden |
1:03 PM |
@vickyloras @theteacherjames Great to have a recharged vicky - will get you the transcript asap #eltchat ! |
| theteacherjames |
1:04 PM |
@TtMadridTEFL Glad you enjoyed it. Every Wednesday at 1pm and 10pm CET. Hope to see you again! #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
1:04 PM |
RT @tamaslorincz: Thanks for the great chat, so glad to have been here. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
1:04 PM |
@TtMadridTEFL Every Wed 12 and 21 BST - see the blog http://t.co/bQ4jsn5J #eltchat |
| TtMadridTEFL |
1:05 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @TtMadridTEFL Every Wed 12 and 21 BST - see the blog http://t.co/bQ4jsn5J #eltchat |
| alturki3 |
1:05 PM |
It is good to always have a B plan #ELTchat |
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