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hartle
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11:01 PM
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RT @tim_crangle: Hello I'm here #ELTchat Hi Tim :-)
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tim_crangle
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11:01 PM
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Hello I'm here #ELTchat
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hartle
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11:01 PM
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RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Heat sure doesn't help.@hartle >> No, it's lethal for the brain :-((
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tim_crangle
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11:02 PM
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You can motivate students by going outside and teaching in the park - if yr school's insurance allows it! #ELTchat
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hartle
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11:02 PM
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#eltchat welcpme Tim 500 :-)
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ljp2010
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11:02 PM
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#ELTchat Welcome Tim! @tim_crangle
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Marisa_C
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11:02 PM
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@BrunoELT #ELTchat Hi Tim - introducing our 500th Facebook grp member!!! @tim_crangle Wel;come him pls
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Marisa_C
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11:03 PM
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@tim_crangle #ELTchat You mean that you should introduce the element of change to motivate ?
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hartle
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11:03 PM
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RT @tim_crangle: You can motivate students by going outside... #ELTchat Good idea for small groups :-=
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Marisa_C
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11:04 PM
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@esoldaveglasgow #eltchat@andyscott55 hi and welcome from hot summery Athens!!! :-)
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ljp2010
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11:04 PM
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#ELTchat Novelty and variations on a theme help to keep things fresh. Hi Andy!
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hartle
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11:04 PM
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#eltchat you can build rapport by building a community
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tim_crangle
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11:04 PM
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Thanks Marisa I was hoping you would welcome me like that! Seriously, good evening everybody from France #ELTchat
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esoldaveglasgow
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11:04 PM
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#eltchat hello from a very wet and muggy Lanarkshire, Scotland.
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Marisa_C
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11:06 PM
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@PlanELT #eltchat Hi Sam and welcome
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PlanELT
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11:06 PM
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Hi everyone~ sorry I'm late #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11:06 PM
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So what is 'rapport" - I know I have to grade teachers on this category - have they built good rapport with their learners? #ELTchat define?
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Marisa_C
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11:07 PM
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RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat @Marisa_C Can we do an acrostic poem with it? R for respect, A for .... ;-) A for affinity ?
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ljp2010
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11:07 PM
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#ELTchat @Marisa_C Can we do an acrostic poem with it? R for respect, A for .... ;-)
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esoldaveglasgow
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11:07 PM
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#eltchat My ESOL students are adults. Teacher student rapport can be developed, but student - student may never happen.
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Marisa_C
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11:07 PM
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RT @hartle: #eltchat rapport is interpersonal ability,, using names, really listening to the people in front of you and responding to them
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hartle
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11:07 PM
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#eltchat rapport is interpersonal ability,, using names, really listening to the people in front of you and responding to them
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Marisa_C
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11:07 PM
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RT @BrunoELT: έΑε@hartle: #eltchat you can build rapport by building a communityέΑζ sure! Students love to sense they belong to a community.
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Marisa_C
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11:08 PM
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@theteacherjames #eltchat hi James great to see u
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ljp2010
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11:08 PM
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#ELTchat @hartle Giving them the language they need certainly.
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hartle
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11:08 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: or A for Affective factors #ELTchat like that :-)
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theteacherjames
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11:08 PM
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Evening all! #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11:08 PM
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or A for Affective factors #ELTchat
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hartle
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11:08 PM
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#eltchat... and responding not only to "surface errors" but to what people are trying to say then working on emergent language
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tim_crangle
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11:09 PM
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Rapport = creating group dynamics? #ELTchat
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nick_adams84
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11:09 PM
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Newbie checking in - hi from a beautifully humid Canterbury! #ELTchat
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ljp2010
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11:09 PM
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#ELTchat and not just the sts talking, the teacher should open up a bit too.
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hartle
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11:09 PM
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RT @fionamau: #eltchat Good evening! Hi Fiona
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Marisa_C
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11:09 PM
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Lowering Anxiety - the fear of negative correction, the fear of making mistakes and being judged etc important too #ELTchat
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andyscott55
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11:09 PM
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#eltchat a little bit of chitchat at the start of every lesson soon gives us an idea of the sts likes and dislikes
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fionamau
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11:09 PM
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#eltchat Good evening!
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theteacherjames
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11:09 PM
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@Marisa_C @hartle Good to see you! #eltchat
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ljp2010
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11:09 PM
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#ELTchat P for personalisation too.
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hartle
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11:09 PM
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#eltchat P for person
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hartle
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11:09 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: Evening all! #eltchat Hi James
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hartle
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11:10 PM
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RT @esoldaveglasgow: #eltchat I develop rapport with individual students with the help of email. .. yes and blogging too
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Marisa_C
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11:10 PM
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RT @tim_crangle: Rapport = creating group dynamics? #ELTchat > building a team spirit yes v important
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theteacherjames
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11:10 PM
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@BrunoELT Hi Bruno! #eltchat
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hartle
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11:10 PM
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#eltchat what about "O" though?
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esoldaveglasgow
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11:10 PM
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#eltchat I develop rapport with individual students with the help of email. It establishes a convenient, confidential low-pressure medium
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Marisa_C
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11:10 PM
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RT @nick_adams84: Newbie checking in - hi from a beautifully humid Canterbury! #ELTchat > Welcome and hop on!
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Marisa_C
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11:11 PM
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RT @stangea: I would say rapport is in sync or on the same wavelength; relating well to each other; characterized by mutual respect.#eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11:11 PM
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@fionamau @stangea hello there welcome #eltchat
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tim_crangle
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11:11 PM
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Hi only my second time, so relative newbie too! RT @nick_adams84: Newbie checking in - hi from a beautifully humid Canterbury! #ELTchat
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hartle
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11:11 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @BrunoELT: @Marisa_C @ljp2010 P for passion #eltchat > i like that - Ss appreciate teacher Passion/enthusiasm
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andyscott55
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11:11 PM
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RT @andyscott55: @ljp2010 yes, lisa, we are all in it together! #eltchat
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fionamau
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11:11 PM
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@hartle @BrunoELT #eltchat Hi!
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Marisa_C
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11:11 PM
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RT @BrunoELT: @Marisa_C @ljp2010 P for passion #eltchat > i like that - Ss appreciate teacher Passion/enthusiasm
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fionamau
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11:12 PM
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RT @hartle: #eltchat welcpme Tim 500 :-)
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DinaDobrou
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11:12 PM
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Hello everyone. Just back from work. Hope I'm not late. #ELTchat
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ljp2010
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11:12 PM
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#ELTchat Is it possible to be a good teacher without having rapport with our sts?
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andyscott55
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11:12 PM
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RT @andyscott55: our sts dont need to hear our life story but a few titbits can engage! #eltchat
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fionamau
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11:12 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Welcome to #ELTchat We are talking about building rapport and st confidence in ELT > Two very different issues...
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hartle
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11:12 PM
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#eltchat build rapport by doing work that stds want and need to do as well.
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Marisa_C
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11:13 PM
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RT @BrunoELT: #eltchat promote collaborative/task based activities. This way sts will engage and get closer to each other
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Marisa_C
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11:13 PM
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@DinaDobrou #ELTchat hello and welcome - gd to see u
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hartle
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11:13 PM
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#eltchat did a first lesson with Google maps. Stds showed home on map and talked abt it. Version of tried and tested activity but more..
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nick_adams84
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11:13 PM
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I'd echo passion - easy to be unenthusiastic yourself in this heat; project the kind of attitude you want to get back #eltchat
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fionamau
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11:13 PM
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RT @hartle: #eltchat you can build rapport by building a community
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globalacademy
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11:13 PM
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RT @TheConsultantsE: Mindmapping with Mindmaple http://t.co/snFgkeix #edtech #eltchat #ellchat #education #teachers via @NikPeachey
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Marisa_C
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11:13 PM
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@fionamau #ELTchat Very different but confidence can only be created in a positive atmosphere - so there is a connection
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ljp2010
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11:13 PM
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RT @andyscott55: our sts dont need to hear our life story but a few titbits can engage! #eltchat Very true!
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Marisa_C
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11:14 PM
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Using collaborative tasks great but building a sense of community and group bonding should be part of the deal #eltchat
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ljp2010
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11:14 PM
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#ELTchat empathy must also be a key factor
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theteacherjames
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11:14 PM
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Respect, (Positive) Attitude, Personalisation, Patience, Openness, Recognition, Teacher (as the model and stimulus). #eltchat
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fionamau
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11:14 PM
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RT @hartle: #eltchat rapport is interpersonal ability, using names, really listening to the people in front of you and responding to them
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tim_crangle
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11:15 PM
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Yes you've said it in a nutshell - RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat empathy must also be a key factor #ELTchat
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ljp2010
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11:15 PM
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#ELTchat @esoldaveglasgow Yes, even simple things like making sure they know each other's names.
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chiasuan
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11:15 PM
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Create rapport? Not treating them as students...but as individual clients. As people we can learn from. #eltchat
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hartle
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11:15 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: ... group bonding should be part of the deal #eltchat This is where blogging or disussion on Facenook pages etc. can be good
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Marisa_C
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11:15 PM
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@theteacherjames #eltchat I think you are absilutely right James - we don't teach behaviours, we model them
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DinaDobrou
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11:15 PM
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@Marisa_C Gd to CU 2. Will try to catch up. :) #ELTchat
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esoldaveglasgow
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11:15 PM
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@BrunoELT I agree it is part of our job to help st-st rapport. Small group tasks reveal the students' traits, likes, dislikes #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11:16 PM
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You can help to create rapport by giving the class collective responsibilities, an all-in-this-together effort. #eltchat
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hartle
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11:16 PM
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RT @chiasuan: As people we can learn from. #eltchat Yes this is really important. Learning from each other and reducing hierarchies
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andyscott55
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11:16 PM
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#eltchat sts can pick up on our energy - even when we think we're hiding how we feel!
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fionamau
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11:16 PM
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RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Is it possible 2b a good teacher w/out rapport with our sts? > I don't think so - they need 2 connect 2 the learning
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fionamau
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11:17 PM
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#eltchat I agree rapport & confidence r both essential/overlap, but not quite the same - rapport is built early then usually has own dynamic
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esoldaveglasgow
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11:17 PM
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#eltchat Anything extra-mural seems to reduce affective barriers - library induction, cafe, careers office, council office etc.
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Marisa_C
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11:17 PM
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@fionamau #ELTchat is it possible to be a good T without dg rapport? Very difficult - Ss will block the learning if fearful of anxious
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theteacherjames
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11:17 PM
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@ljp2010 Thanks, had to rack my brains! #eltchat
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fionamau
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11:18 PM
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#eltchat Confidence takes longer to build, grows partially out of rapport but needs more conscious maintenance.
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hartle
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11:18 PM
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#eltchat teaching is communication and rapport is key if you want to teach you have to be able to understand too
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tim_crangle
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11:18 PM
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But empathy has to be more subtly built with teens/young adults #ELTchat
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elawassell
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11:18 PM
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RT@hartle: did a 1st lesson with Google maps. Stds showed home on map and talked abt it. Version of tried & tested activity bt more #ELTchat
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hartle
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11:19 PM
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#eltchat confidence is also about self image and fear. If stds feel at ease they will be able to risk more and gain confidence
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DinaDobrou
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11:19 PM
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@BrunoELT True, Bruno. There has to be a reason for them to communicate. #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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11:19 PM
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Agree that confidence refers to linguistic factors -fluency,lack of fear of mistakes- not based on rapport but cannot be w/o it #eltchat
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elawassell
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11:19 PM
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RT @hartle: teaching is communication and rapport is key if you want to teach you have to be able to understand too <- so true!
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fionamau
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11:19 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Using collaborative tasks great but building a sense of community and group bonding should be part of the deal #eltchat
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rschurter
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11:19 PM
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RT @theconsultantse: Mindmapping with Mindmaple http://t.co/BUSBtkPv #edtech #eltchat #ellchat #education #teachers via @NikPeachey
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hartle
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11:19 PM
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RT @fionamau: #eltchat Confidence takes longer to build, grows partially out of rapport but needs more conscious maintenance. Yes
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fionamau
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11:19 PM
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#eltchat Also, rapport is more interpersonal, whilst confidence is largely intrapersonal (supported by external factors)
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hartle
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11:20 PM
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#eltchat you can be confident with very few linguistic resources, if you have to... Intonation can work wonders. It's psychological
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ljp2010
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11:20 PM
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#ELTchat Carol Reed did a great talk about praise in the classroom. So important but it must be genuine to build confidence.
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chiasuan
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11:20 PM
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@BrunoELT Without the 'I am your teacher so I know better' attitude. They're roles in life aren't 'students'. They r individuals. #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11:21 PM
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@chiasuan Yes, I like to think of my classes as places where the sts & I collaborate on 'investigating' the language. #eltchat
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hartle
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11:21 PM
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RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat ... it must be genuine to build confidence. Yes, I really agree with this. There's nothing worse ..praise 4 nothing
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esoldaveglasgow
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11:21 PM
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#eltchat Rapport may not be so vital in some cases. Did u never have a "severe" school teacher in whose class you learned a lot?
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tim_crangle
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11:21 PM
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1 of my students lately admitted he had been scared of me for the last 3 years!! Always considered mself as easy-going so v srprsd #ELTchat
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andyscott55
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11:21 PM
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RT @hartle: #eltchat confidence is also about self image and fear. If stds feel at ease they will be able to risk more and gain confidence
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designerlessons
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11:21 PM
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RT @chiasuan: Create rapport? Not treating them as students...but as individual clients. As people we can learn from. #eltchat
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DinaDobrou
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11:21 PM
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RT @chiasuan: Create rapport? Not treating them as students...but as individual clients. As people we can learn from. #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11:22 PM
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RT @chiasuan: @theteacherjames Absolutely! Love that...! Being fellow collaborators! #eltchat
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fionamau
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11:22 PM
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#eltchat @Marisa_C re is rapport necessary, yes, I agree - I train YL teachers - rapport is largely the difference btwn a Teacher & ..well..
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elawassell
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11:22 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: @theteacherjames #eltchat I think you are absilutely right James - we dont teach behaviours, we model them #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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11:23 PM
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@fionamau Good rapport within a class can potentially lead to increased st confidence, I think. #eltchat
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andyscott55
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11:23 PM
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RT @andyscott55: # you know things are going well when sts look forward to their classes #eltchat
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chiasuan
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11:23 PM
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I use the term 'energetic antenna' to describe the role of the teacher. She/he conducts and holds the energy of the group. #eltchat
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hartle
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11:24 PM
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#eltchat ... so online space for discussion helps some to express themselves, but not everyone
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hartle
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11:24 PM
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#eltchat a lot depends on motivation of tds though. I.n large classes (90+) at uni difficult to create rapport or foster confidence
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ljp2010
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11:24 PM
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@andyscott55 and teachers too! #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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11:24 PM
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@fionamau The YL teacher relies LARGELY on rapport #eltchat
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esoldaveglasgow
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11:24 PM
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#eltchat anything extra-mural seems to reduce the affective barrier and the students reveal traits to one another
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theteacherjames
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11:25 PM
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@chiasuan And I love 'energetic antenna'! #eltchat
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elawassell
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11:25 PM
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It's important to have an "I'm here to help you learn and be better" attitude. #ELTchat
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andyscott55
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11:25 PM
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RT @andyscott55: # important to find balane between getting the work done and swinging from the lights! #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11:25 PM
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@hartle #eltchat do u have to teach classes of 90+? What about groups within the class?
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DinaDobrou
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11:25 PM
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But can we really build rapport with ALL our sts? Not everyone is approachable. #ELTchat
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tim_crangle
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11:25 PM
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@esoldaveglasgow I'm sure we've all had at least 1 of those teachers Dave - but doesn't being strict also count as rapport? #ELTchat
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fionamau
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11:25 PM
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#eltchat Where's @Shaunwilden ? The COLT was an interesting experience in online rapport... and in confidence as key factor
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theteacherjames
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11:25 PM
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@tim_crangle Interesting. How did that make you feel? #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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11:26 PM
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@DinaDobrou As long as we've tried, we've done our our bit. #ELTchat
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hartle
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11:26 PM
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#eltchat we always do group work of course, even in large classes and that helps, as well as personalisation
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hartle
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11:27 PM
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RT @fionamau: RT @Marisa_C: Agree that confidence refers to linguistic factors #eltchat > Confidence can also relate to perceived progress/learning.
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hartle
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11:27 PM
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RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat This feels like a big "love in" today ;-) So how ...Find out passions? yes and provide different spaces like linoit
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PlanELT
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11:27 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: @chiasuan And I love 'energetic antenna'! #eltchat
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fionamau
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11:27 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Agree that confidence refers to linguistic factors #eltchat > Confidence can also relate to perceived progress/learning.
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Marisa_C
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11:27 PM
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I never tire of suggesting you all look at J Hadfield's book "Classroom Dynamics" some great ideas there for team building bonding #Eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11:27 PM
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RT @elawassell: It's important to have an "I'm here to help you learn and be better" attitude. #ELTchat
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ljp2010
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11:27 PM
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#ELTchat This feels like a big "love in" today ;-) So how to do this with classes? Find out passions?
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fionamau
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11:28 PM
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@Marisa_C #eltchat ... whilst rapport is key in setting that learning in motion. Indifference is the greatest enemy of learning
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hartle
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11:28 PM
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RT @esoldaveglasgow: @tim_crangle #eltchat I think 'authoritative' teacher is a great starting point >> Also depends on type of learner
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Marisa_C
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11:28 PM
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There is also a lot to be said for some NLP practices - "In your Hands" by Jane Revell has some nice ideas #ELTchat
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esoldaveglasgow
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11:28 PM
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@tim_crangle #eltchat I think 'authoritative' teacher is a great starting point and T can give autonomy as fast/slow as appropriate.
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ljp2010
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11:28 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: J Hadfield's book "Classroom Dynamics" some great ideas there for team building bonding #Eltchat Yes, a great book.
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hartle
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11:29 PM
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RT @fionamau: #eltchat (I'm out of practice!! and getting lost..... :( ) Me too
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elawassell
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11:29 PM
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RT @esoldaveglasgow: I think authoritative teacher is a great starting point and T can give autonomy as fast/slow as appropriate. #ELTchat
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fionamau
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11:29 PM
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#eltchat (I'm out of practice!! and getting lost..... :( )
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DinaDobrou
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11:29 PM
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@theteacherjames @BrunoELT Totally agree with you! #ELTchat
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andyscott55
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11:29 PM
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#eltchat find common ground as a starting point - could be anything form football to opera
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Marisa_C
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11:30 PM
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RT @fionamau: #eltchat A question How do u focus yr 1st class w each group to be able to build rapport to maximum effect?
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chiasuan
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11:30 PM
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@BrunoELT @theteacherjames When my students get along well with each other, I take credit for being a good 'energetic antenna'! #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11:30 PM
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Sorry I'm late! Catching up #eltchat
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fionamau
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11:30 PM
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#eltchat A question re rapport building? How do u focus yr 1st class w each group to be able to build rapport to maximum effect?
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theteacherjames
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11:31 PM
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@chiasuan @BrunoELT So what happens when they don't? Bad reception? ;-) #eltchat
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fionamau
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11:31 PM
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RT @fionamau: @BrunoELT Hehehe, nope - just being nosey. Observing trainees, you see such a range of attempts... #eltchat
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DinaDobrou
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11:31 PM
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@fionamau I know how it feels...I've been there too. Won't be long before you get used to it. Promise. :D #ELTchat
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hartle
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11:31 PM
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RT @chiasuan: @BrunoELT @theteacherjames 'energetic antenna'! #eltchat Missed this :-(8 what is the "energetic antenna" ?
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tim_crangle
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11:32 PM
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Subgroup interviews? RT @fionamau: #eltchat How do u focus yr 1st class to be able to build rapport to maximum effect? #ELTchat
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sandymillin
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11:33 PM
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RT @hartle: #eltchat you can be confident with very few linguistic resources, if you have to... Intonation can work wonders. It's psychological
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Marisa_C
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11:33 PM
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Learning is social - at its best- cannot be as rich if class 'falling apart" - need to get class to gel #eltchat
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esoldaveglasgow
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11:33 PM
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#eltchat I recommend Alan McLean "Motivated School" and " Motivating Every Learner" : structure, stimulus, affiliation and feedback
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DinaDobrou
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11:33 PM
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@Marisa_C @fionamau Plan activities that gradually allow sts to open up. From simple ice-breakers to more in-depth discussions. #ELTchat
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chiasuan
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11:33 PM
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@hartle @BrunoELT @theteacherjames U know when there's a change of manager and the atmosphere of the team changes? #eltchat
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fionamau
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11:33 PM
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RT @Marisa_C The YL teacher relies LARGELY on rapport #eltchat > Yep, but so many trainees don't get that!
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hartle
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11:34 PM
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#eltchat 1st lesson intro to course, work to do and to group. This is my stds 1st lesson noticeboard http://t.co/kzTege3f
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sandymillin
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11:34 PM
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RT @fionamau: #eltchat Where's @Shaunwilden ? The COLT was an interesting experience in online rapport... and in confidence as key factor
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theteacherjames
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11:34 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Learning is social - at its best- cannot be as rich if class 'falling apart" - need to get class to gel #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11:34 PM
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@hartle Have a look at Chia's tweets for an explanation :-) #eltchat
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fionamau
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11:35 PM
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@DinaDobrou @tim_crangle How far do you get involved in the chat, the 1st day? Or do u just observe & 'people-manage'? #eltchat
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hartle
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11:35 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: @hartle Have a look at Chia's tweets for an explanation :-) #eltchat will do later :-))
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sandymillin
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11:35 PM
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RT @elawassell: It's important to have an "I'm here to help you learn and be better" attitude. #ELTchat
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sandymillin
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11:36 PM
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@fionamau hmmm...re: 1st class. Lots of names practice and usage. All names on board (small classes so lucky!) and taking it slowly #eltchat
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ljp2010
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11:36 PM
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#Eltchat I tend to get on with the lesson on 1st day, allow them to know each other thru the subject. rapport isn't built overnight.
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esoldaveglasgow
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11:37 PM
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@sandymillin #eltchat I love ur suggestion of intonation. I think pronunciation is often overlooked and under-used. Quick, shared successes
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fionamau
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11:37 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Learning is social - at its best- cannot be as rich if class 'falling apart" - need to get class to gel #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11:37 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Learning is social - at its best- cannot be as rich if class 'falling apart" - need to get class to gel #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11:37 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: A great deal of rapport comes from how you treat the sts from day one. First impressions are important. #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11:37 PM
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A great deal of rapport comes from how you treat the sts from day one. First impressions are important. #eltchat
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DinaDobrou
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11:37 PM
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@fionamau @tim_crangle The latter. It's like needs analysis. They can connect with their classmates 1st & I can find an opening...#ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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11:38 PM
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I think a social event early on - is quite important - most schools leave it till too late #eltchat
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hartle
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11:38 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: ... from day one. First impressions are important. #eltchat Yes , class dynamics established quickly
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sandymillin
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11:38 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: A great deal of rapport comes from how you treat the sts from day one. First impressions are important. #eltchat
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tim_crangle
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11:38 PM
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Starting course off with a 'bang', throwing sweets, squirting students with water pistols ... #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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11:38 PM
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@sandymillin @fionamau A little thing like learning their names is vital (and not forcing them to adopt English ones!) #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11:38 PM
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@esoldaveglasgow Thanks for that, but usage of intonation was suggested by @hartle #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11:38 PM
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@fionamau And I take part in everything students do in 1st class, or be around a lot #eltchat
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PlanELT
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11:39 PM
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I think rapport can depend on the mix of Ss too, I have a class, who individually are lovely but as a group are hard work #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11:39 PM
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RT @andyscott55: #eltchat sts personal characteristics play big part - its not just about language - the social element is so important
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ljp2010
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11:39 PM
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#Eltchat Have 2 go. Thx & look forward to the summary.
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hartle
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11:39 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: @sandymillin @fionamau #eltchat Using names really important (but not so easy with larger groups)
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sandymillin
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11:39 PM
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Do you ever have a group you get on with, but with one student who just won't gel? What do you do then? #eltchat
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fionamau
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11:39 PM
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@theteacherjames #eltchat I agree totally - learning how to pronounce names, too. And where we sit / stand influences too
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hartle
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11:40 PM
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RT @sandymillin: Do you ever have a group ...with one student who just won't gel? #eltchat Yes, and they are always different.
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theteacherjames
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11:40 PM
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@hartle It's okay to make mistakes sometimes, the most important thing is that they see you're trying. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11:40 PM
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We are neglecting building confidence - how do you build Ss' confidence esp when u ask them to produce lang freely and publicly #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11:41 PM
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@Marisa_C build confidence through comfortable non-confrontational atmosphere. give them chance to practise alone/in pairs first #eltchat
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hartle
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11:41 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: We are neglecting building confidence..when u ask them to produce lang freely and publicly #eltchat Relhearsal essential
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stangea
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11:41 PM
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@DinaDobrou @chiasuan #eltchat "client" is not a favoured word of mine. "Student" is fine, public education suffers under a business model.
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DinaDobrou
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11:41 PM
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Currently working at summer school w/ international sts & classes change evry week. Really hard to establish (& maintain) rapport. #ELTchat
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tim_crangle
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11:41 PM
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Student (and teacher) nickname games 'Brilliant Bob', 'Lovely Linda', 'Creative Carole' etc. #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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11:41 PM
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@fionamau Yes, classroom layout can affect things. #eltchat
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hartle
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11:41 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: It's okay to make mistakes sometimes, the most important thing is that they see you're trying. #eltchat Yes, agree :-)
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andyscott55
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11:41 PM
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#eltchat must go - eltchat rocks!
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fionamau
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11:41 PM
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@hartle @theteacherjames: @sandymillin #eltchat No, not so easy w big grps but like conf. workshops, eye contact, smiling & remembering help
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fionamau
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11:42 PM
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@hartle @theteacherjames: @sandymillin #eltchat By 'remembering', I mean remember what ppl said, or cross-refer to students' contributions
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Marisa_C
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11:42 PM
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@hartle Agree fully - rehearsal and preparation (private;closed grp) before public performance #eltchat
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hartle
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11:42 PM
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RT @andyscott55: #eltchat must go - eltchat rocks! Bye Andy
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theteacherjames
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11:42 PM
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@BrunoELT It' shard to create rapport when you have one bad apple. That's tough. #eltchat
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fionamau
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11:43 PM
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@theteacherjames #eltchat To make mistakes, and to not know the answers! (Tho that can depend on teaching context & students in yr class...)
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hartle
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11:43 PM
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RT @fionamau: @hartle @theteacherjames: @sandymillin #eltchat By 'remembering', I mean remember what ppl said, or cross-refer to students' contributions
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stangea
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11:43 PM
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@DinaDobrou @chiasuan #eltchat that qualified, you are right, rapport requires a response to people as individuals.
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hartle
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11:43 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: @hartle Agree fully - rehearsal and preparation (private;closed grp) before public performance #eltchat and micro teaching..
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tim_crangle
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11:43 PM
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@hartle: @sandymillin: Do you ever have a group ...with one student who just wont gel? Yes have 1 st who refuses 2 pair with others #ELTchat
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esoldaveglasgow
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11:43 PM
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@Marisa_C #eltchat Criteria checklists, voice recorders and then peer then self evaluation in small groups or alone on voice recorders
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DinaDobrou
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11:44 PM
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@BrunoELT Currently working at summer school w/ international sts & classes change evry week. Really hard to establish rapport. #ELTchat
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sandymillin
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11:44 PM
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Using @edmodo http://t.co/3qZeCXAL has really helped improve rapport with SS - continues things outside class http://t.co/G03mPoB0 #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11:45 PM
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Build confidence by asking questions without one clear answer. Unlikely the st will be wrong, although you may disagree with them. #eltchat
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nick_adams84
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11:45 PM
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Confidence - give Ss chance to prepare/think before speaking, then react appropriately after; genuine praise & sensitive correction #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11:45 PM
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@fionamau will have a look - share some links pls #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11:45 PM
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@tim_crangle although sometimes making them work with others not necessary - e.g. they write things not spk #ELTchat = treat as individuals
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fionamau
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11:45 PM
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@Marisa_C #eltchat I'm blogging on confidence... three posts up, three (or is it four?) to go.... ;)
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hartle
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11:45 PM
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#eltchat so we create rappost by responding to people and help them build confidence by giving them tools , space and encouragement
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hartle
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11:46 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: Build confidence by asking questions without one clear answer. #eltchat and by asking motivating questions in general
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PlanELT
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11:46 PM
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@sandymillin @Marisa_C trying to get students to experience ownership of their learning and feel proud of their achievements #eltchat
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stangea
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11:46 PM
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@esoldaveglasgow #eltchat that is a challenging question for me. There are nuances in relationships, even characterized as severe.
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theteacherjames
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11:46 PM
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Build confidence by making sts aware of the things they are doing well, especially if it's something they couldn't do before. #eltchat
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Sharonzspace
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11:46 PM
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@marisa_c also about remembering the individual. Taking time to be interested in them for themselves #ELTCHAT
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sandymillin
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11:46 PM
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@DinaDobrou I found rapport difficult at summer school sometimes, but taking part in afternoon activities with kids helped #ELTchat
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hartle
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11:46 PM
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RT @sandymillin: @tim_crangle #ELTchat = treat as individuals Yes... Pairwork Grpwork must be meaningful, not just rote teaching
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hartle
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11:47 PM
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#eltchat create confidence by getting stds to bring own materials and post /write questions during presentations etc. for later discussion
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Marisa_C
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11:47 PM
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@Sharonzspace #ELTCHAT yes - fastish pace and huff puff puff don't allow Ts to show appreciation for Ss' answers
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fionamau
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11:48 PM
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@Marisa_C #eltchat Parts 4 and 5 are in my notebook to go up this weekend... Emotional Response , and Repetition. Last one Whole Learning
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sandymillin
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11:48 PM
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Encourage students to build each other's confidence too - builds rapport between them #eltchat
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esoldaveglasgow
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11:48 PM
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#eltchat Give learners 'meta-language'. "I couldn't spell the word YYY. Now I can spell it properly. " They own their progress.
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elawassell
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11:48 PM
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RT @Sharonzspace: also about remembering the individual.Taking time to be interested in them for themselves <- Truly listen 2 them #ELTchat
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fionamau
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11:48 PM
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@Marisa_C #eltchat A Matter of Confidence part 1 http://t.co/8vb3gnB2 part 2 http://t.co/hl2kMyRy and part 3 http://t.co/tI0Vt9cn
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hartle
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11:49 PM
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#eltchat have to go everyone. Thanks for a good chat :-) and to Marisa for moderating after a full day's training
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DinaDobrou
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11:49 PM
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@sandymillin True, Sandy! Activities made me a better summer school T. It's more of a challenge when you teach full time. #ELTchat
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sandymillin
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11:49 PM
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Levelling the playing field great too. e.g. if student A corrects others' pron, show other SS what pron they can correct 4 stdt A #eltchat
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Sharonzspace
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11:49 PM
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@sandymillin also facebook groups for the same purpose. Speeds up group building time and they become a team #ELTCHAT
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Marisa_C
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11:49 PM
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@fionamau great Fiona thanks!!! #eltchat
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hartle
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11:49 PM
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RT @fionamau: @Marisa_C #eltchat A Matter of Confidence part 1 http://t.co/8vb3gnB2 part 2 http://t.co/hl2kMyRy and part 3 http://t.co/tI0Vt9cn
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Marisa_C
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11:50 PM
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RT @nick_adams84: Focus explicity on the learning process sometimes; make Ss aware of what they have learnt #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11:50 PM
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@DinaDobrou Yep! That's why I prefer a summer school with activities too - helps SS realise you are a real person too :) #ELTchat
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fionamau
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11:50 PM
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#eltchat Confidence has a lot to do with the way learners see themselves, affective stuff, the 'I can' factor...your mind's eye & mind's ear
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Marisa_C
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11:50 PM
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RT @fionamau: #eltchat A Matter of Confidence part 1 http://t.co/4y2Fvxxx part 2 http://t.co/jlRRvS53 and part 3 http://t.co/6ZI4wao6
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nick_adams84
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11:50 PM
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Focus explicity on the learning process sometimes; make Ss aware of what they have learnt #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11:50 PM
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RT @fionamau: @Marisa_C #eltchat A Matter of Confidence part 1 http://t.co/8vb3gnB2 part 2 http://t.co/hl2kMyRy and part 3 http://t.co/tI0Vt9cn
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Marisa_C
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11:51 PM
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@nick_adams84 #eltchat I agree with you - I think Ts don't talk to Ss enough about their learning - more time shd be spent on this
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Marisa_C
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11:52 PM
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@Sharonzspace Yes, socialising outside the class is also important #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11:52 PM
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@fionamau #eltchat grt to see u thanks for links to posts :-)
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DinaDobrou
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11:52 PM
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@sandymillin The school does have activities, it's just that when ur day ends at 9 ur just dead knackered 2 C sts at activities. #ELTchat
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Sharonzspace
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11:52 PM
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@marisa_c also the corrridor or the lunch queue is just as important as the classroom to build a rapport #eltchat
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PlanELT
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11:52 PM
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I ask Ss to lead the feedback, think its good for confidence both in speaking publicly and language knowledge #eltchat
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fionamau
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11:52 PM
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RT @hartle: #eltchat have to go everyone. Thanks for a good chat :-) and to Marisa for moderating after a full day's training > Good 2 c u!
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fionamau
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11:53 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: @fionamau #eltchat grt to see u thanks for links to posts :-) > Still here for a few mins... change of plan :)
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DinaDobrou
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11:53 PM
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@sandymillin Also establish firm rules about bullying of any kind in and out of class. Can seriously ruin sts confidence. #ELTchat
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fionamau
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11:53 PM
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RT @Sharonzspace: @marisa_c also the corrridor or the lunch queue = as important as the classroom to build a rapport #eltchat > or more so!
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Marisa_C
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11:54 PM
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Give weaker Ss the 'key' to check answers to exercises #eltchat - share responsibilities
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Marisa_C
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11:54 PM
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Get weaker Ss to moderate a discussion #eltchat
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tim_crangle
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11:55 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: @nick_adams84 - more time shd be spent on tlkng about their learning Yes but diff when u need 2 avoid L1 #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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11:55 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Give weaker Ss the 'key' to check answers to exercises #eltchat - share responsibilities
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YmnPearl
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11:55 PM
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@Marisa_C the reactions of Ts and they way she/he behaves either push the Ss up or down. #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11:55 PM
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Find ways to make the sts adopt the role of the teacher. Give them responsibility. #eltchat
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Sharonzspace
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11:55 PM
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@elawassell when a learner is having a confidence crisis just grabbing them for a short walk and talk can be a game changer #ELTCHAT
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fionamau
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11:55 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Get weaker Ss to moderate a discussion #eltchat > Yes! Or be 'web-master' on the class blog, so they have non-exposing control
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Marisa_C
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11:56 PM
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@ELTExperiences whoever u as the T think needs it - weaker OR quieter #ELTChat
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fionamau
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11:56 PM
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RT @YmnPearl: @Marisa_C the reactions of Ts and they way she/he behaves either push the Ss up or down. #eltchat
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DinaDobrou
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11:56 PM
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@chiasuan @stangea Indeed some sts r clients esp. if ur teaching in-house courses. My BE 'clients' think of the word st as a joke #ELTchat
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sandymillin
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11:56 PM
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RT @Sharonzspace: @marisa_c also the corrridor or the lunch queue is just as important as the classroom to build a rapport #eltchat
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ELTExperiences
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11:56 PM
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@Marisa_C how would you define "weaker students"? Those that are quieter or unable to speak? Good idea though. #ELTChat
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elawassell
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11:56 PM
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RT @Sharonzspace: when a learner is having a confidence crisis just grabbing them for a short walk and talk can be a game changer #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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11:56 PM
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RT @YmnPearl: @Marisa_C the reactions of Ts and they way she/he behaves either push the Ss up or down. #eltchat > V true
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fionamau
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11:57 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: Find ways to make the sts adopt the role of the teacher. Give them responsibility. #eltchat Also 4 generating materials
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Marisa_C
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11:57 PM
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@YmnPearl Ss rise up or stoop down to meet OUR expecations #eltchat
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PlanELT
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11:57 PM
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Thank you very much #eltchat Have to go and finish prepping EAP lessons before I fall asleep!
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YmnPearl
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11:57 PM
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@Marisa_C After that, the teacher may have a seat and let that S to write the answers on the board as the teacher does. #eltchat
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esoldaveglasgow
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11:57 PM
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#eltchat Thank-you all for chat tonight
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tim_crangle
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11:58 PM
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Clients vs Students is a chat theme in its own right #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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11:58 PM
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@BrunoELT #eltchat how didi you guess? :-D
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DinaDobrou
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11:59 PM
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@chiasuan @stangea No way you can get away with that in a class of teenagers. You're toast! #ELTchat
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fionamau
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12:01 AM
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#eltchat Now I do have to go. Great chat. I'd missed them... 'see' you next week, I hope.
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designerlessons
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12:01 AM
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having Ss work toward a common goal e.g. using English outside the classroom*sharing results is motivational & builds confidence #ELTchat
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YmnPearl
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12:01 AM
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RT @Marisa_C: @YmnPearl Ss rise up or stoop down to meet OUR expecations #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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12:02 AM
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Do we have a volunteer for the summary or should i get violent? #eltchat :-D
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YmnPearl
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12:02 AM
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@BrunoELT @Marisa_C It will be a nice idea so we can get lots of ideas and tips in a one place. #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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12:02 AM
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Thanks for a great chat everyone, until next time... #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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12:02 AM
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Will see u all for the evening #ELtchat again next week - not able to make the 1st one this month - sorry!
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designerlessons
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12:02 AM
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@chiasuan there has to be boundary for teens and YLs, so roles are essential there. After that they should be dropped #eltchat
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elawassell
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12:02 AM
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RT @designerlessons: having Ss work toward a common goal e.g. using English outside the classroom*sharing results is motivational.. #ELTchat
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elawassell
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12:03 AM
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@designerlessons Agree! We prepared a play for parents - afterwords the kids were so proud of themselves and very motivated! #ELTchat
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DinaDobrou
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12:03 AM
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Thank you #ELTchat for great ideas.
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DinaDobrou
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12:04 AM
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@Marisa_C I'd love to volunteer again when summer school's over (that's 3 more weeks). I'm really over my ears now. :( #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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12:07 AM
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RT @YmnPearl: Could u plz suggest a site for a very simple conversation for a pre-foundation or foundation levels? #ESL #ELTchat
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tim_crangle
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12:08 AM
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What has to be done and when does it have to be done for? (would hate Marisa to get violent!) #ELTchat
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designerlessons
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12:08 AM
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@elawassell it's great to see Ss happy, and makes things so much easier when they have that extra reason to learn. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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12:09 AM
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@tim_crangle A summary of the tweets from the transcript - have u seen our other summaries? Can help you if you are offering to try #ELTchat
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YmnPearl
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12:09 AM
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @YmnPearl: @Marisa_C the reactions of Ts and they way she/he behaves either push the Ss up or down. #eltchat > V true
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Marisa_C
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12:11 AM
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RT @tim_crangle: OK, as the 500th member of the FB group I feel I have a certain duty!! Cld u show me the other summaries? #ELTchat Hurray!
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tim_crangle
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12:11 AM
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OK, as the 500th member of the FB group I feel I have a certain duty!! Cld u show me the other summaries? #ELTchat
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sandymillin
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12:11 AM
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Wittertainment Code of Conduct http://t.co/UARVqtzL is this week's #infiniteeltideas prompt. Hello Jason! #eltchat #efl #esl
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Marisa_C
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12:13 AM
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@tim_crangle our 500th FB grp member just volunteered - many thanks and here is the link to other summaries http://t.co/0mk3ceOE #ELTchat
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