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hartle

11:01 PM

RT @tim_crangle: Hello I'm here #ELTchat Hi Tim :-)

tim_crangle

11:01 PM

Hello I'm here #ELTchat

hartle

11:01 PM

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Heat sure doesn't help.@hartle >> No, it's lethal for the brain :-((

tim_crangle

11:02 PM

You can motivate students by going outside and teaching in the park - if yr school's insurance allows it! #ELTchat

hartle

11:02 PM

#eltchat welcpme Tim 500 :-)

ljp2010

11:02 PM

#ELTchat Welcome Tim! @tim_crangle

Marisa_C

11:02 PM

@BrunoELT  #ELTchat Hi Tim - introducing our 500th Facebook grp member!!! @tim_crangle  Wel;come him pls

Marisa_C

11:03 PM

@tim_crangle  #ELTchat You mean that you should introduce the element of change to motivate ?

hartle

11:03 PM

RT @tim_crangle: You can motivate students by going outside... #ELTchat Good idea for small groups :-=

Marisa_C

11:04 PM

@esoldaveglasgow  #eltchat@andyscott55  hi and welcome from hot summery Athens!!! :-)

ljp2010

11:04 PM

#ELTchat Novelty and variations on a theme help to keep things fresh.  Hi Andy!

hartle

11:04 PM

#eltchat you can build rapport by building a community

tim_crangle

11:04 PM

Thanks Marisa I was hoping you would welcome me like that! Seriously, good evening everybody from France #ELTchat

esoldaveglasgow

11:04 PM

#eltchat hello from a very wet and muggy Lanarkshire, Scotland.

Marisa_C

11:06 PM

@PlanELT  #eltchat Hi Sam and welcome

PlanELT

11:06 PM

Hi everyone~ sorry I'm late #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:06 PM

So what is 'rapport" - I know I have to grade teachers on this category - have they built good rapport with their learners? #ELTchat define?

Marisa_C

11:07 PM

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat @Marisa_C  Can we do an acrostic poem with it?  R for respect, A for .... ;-) A for affinity ?

ljp2010

11:07 PM

#ELTchat @Marisa_C  Can we do an acrostic poem with it?  R for respect, A for .... ;-)

esoldaveglasgow

11:07 PM

#eltchat My ESOL students are adults. Teacher student rapport can be developed, but student - student may never happen.

Marisa_C

11:07 PM

RT @hartle: #eltchat rapport is interpersonal ability,, using names, really listening to the people in front of you and responding to them

hartle

11:07 PM

#eltchat rapport is interpersonal ability,, using names, really listening to the people in front of you and responding to them

Marisa_C

11:07 PM

RT @BrunoELT: έΑε@hartle: #eltchat you can build rapport by building a communityέΑζ sure! Students love to sense they belong to a community.

Marisa_C

11:08 PM

@theteacherjames  #eltchat hi James great to see u

ljp2010

11:08 PM

#ELTchat @hartle  Giving them the language they need certainly.

hartle

11:08 PM

RT @Marisa_C: or A for Affective factors #ELTchat like that :-)

theteacherjames

11:08 PM

Evening all! #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:08 PM

or A for Affective factors #ELTchat

hartle

11:08 PM

#eltchat... and responding not only to "surface errors" but to what people are trying to say then working on emergent language

tim_crangle

11:09 PM

Rapport = creating group dynamics? #ELTchat

nick_adams84

11:09 PM

Newbie checking in - hi from a beautifully humid Canterbury! #ELTchat

ljp2010

11:09 PM

#ELTchat and not just the sts talking, the teacher should open up a bit too.

hartle

11:09 PM

RT @fionamau: #eltchat Good evening! Hi Fiona

Marisa_C

11:09 PM

Lowering Anxiety - the fear of negative correction, the fear of making mistakes and being judged etc important too #ELTchat

andyscott55

11:09 PM

#eltchat a little bit of chitchat at the start of every lesson soon gives us an idea of the sts likes and dislikes

fionamau

11:09 PM

#eltchat Good evening!

theteacherjames

11:09 PM

@Marisa_C @hartle Good to see you! #eltchat

ljp2010

11:09 PM

#ELTchat P for personalisation too.

hartle

11:09 PM

#eltchat P for person

hartle

11:09 PM

RT @theteacherjames: Evening all! #eltchat Hi James

hartle

11:10 PM

RT @esoldaveglasgow: #eltchat I develop rapport with individual students with the help of email. .. yes and blogging too

Marisa_C

11:10 PM

RT @tim_crangle: Rapport = creating group dynamics? #ELTchat > building a team spirit yes v important

theteacherjames

11:10 PM

@BrunoELT Hi Bruno! #eltchat

hartle

11:10 PM

#eltchat what about "O" though?

esoldaveglasgow

11:10 PM

#eltchat I develop rapport with individual students with the help of email. It establishes a convenient, confidential low-pressure medium

Marisa_C

11:10 PM

RT @nick_adams84: Newbie checking in - hi from a beautifully humid Canterbury! #ELTchat > Welcome and hop on!

Marisa_C

11:11 PM

RT @stangea: I would say rapport is in sync or on the same wavelength; relating well to each other; characterized by mutual respect.#eltchat

Marisa_C

11:11 PM

@fionamau @stangea hello there welcome #eltchat

tim_crangle

11:11 PM

Hi only my second time, so relative newbie too! RT @nick_adams84: Newbie checking in - hi from a beautifully humid Canterbury! #ELTchat

hartle

11:11 PM

RT @Marisa_C: RT @BrunoELT: @Marisa_C @ljp2010 P for passion #eltchat > i like that - Ss appreciate teacher Passion/enthusiasm

andyscott55

11:11 PM

RT @andyscott55: @ljp2010 yes, lisa, we are all in it together! #eltchat

fionamau

11:11 PM

@hartle @BrunoELT #eltchat Hi!

Marisa_C

11:11 PM

RT @BrunoELT: @Marisa_C @ljp2010 P for passion #eltchat > i like that - Ss appreciate teacher Passion/enthusiasm

fionamau

11:12 PM

RT @hartle: #eltchat welcpme Tim 500 :-)

DinaDobrou

11:12 PM

Hello everyone. Just back from work. Hope I'm not late. #ELTchat

ljp2010

11:12 PM

#ELTchat Is it possible to be a good teacher without having rapport with our sts?

andyscott55

11:12 PM

RT @andyscott55: our sts dont need to hear our life story but a few titbits can engage! #eltchat

fionamau

11:12 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Welcome to #ELTchat We are talking about building rapport and st confidence in ELT > Two very different issues...

hartle

11:12 PM

#eltchat build rapport by doing work that stds want and need to do as well.

Marisa_C

11:13 PM

RT @BrunoELT: #eltchat promote collaborative/task based activities. This way sts will engage and get closer to each other

Marisa_C

11:13 PM

@DinaDobrou  #ELTchat hello and welcome - gd to see u

hartle

11:13 PM

#eltchat did a first lesson with Google maps. Stds showed home on map and talked abt it. Version of tried and tested activity but more..

nick_adams84

11:13 PM

I'd echo passion - easy to be unenthusiastic yourself in this heat; project the kind of attitude you want to get back #eltchat

fionamau

11:13 PM

RT @hartle: #eltchat you can build rapport by building a community

globalacademy

11:13 PM

RT @TheConsultantsE: Mindmapping with Mindmaple http://t.co/snFgkeix #edtech #eltchat #ellchat #education #teachers via @NikPeachey

Marisa_C

11:13 PM

@fionamau  #ELTchat Very different but confidence can only be created in a positive atmosphere - so there is a connection

ljp2010

11:13 PM

RT @andyscott55: our sts dont need to hear our life story but a few titbits can engage! #eltchat  Very true!

Marisa_C

11:14 PM

Using collaborative tasks great but building a sense of community and group bonding should be part of the deal #eltchat

ljp2010

11:14 PM

#ELTchat empathy must also be a key factor

theteacherjames

11:14 PM

Respect, (Positive) Attitude, Personalisation, Patience, Openness, Recognition, Teacher (as the model and stimulus). #eltchat

fionamau

11:14 PM

RT @hartle: #eltchat rapport is interpersonal ability, using names, really listening to the people in front of you and responding to them

tim_crangle

11:15 PM

Yes you've said it in a nutshell - RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat empathy must also be a key factor #ELTchat

ljp2010

11:15 PM

#ELTchat @esoldaveglasgow Yes, even simple things like making sure they know each other's names.

chiasuan

11:15 PM

Create rapport? Not treating them as students...but as individual clients. As people we can learn from. #eltchat

hartle

11:15 PM

RT @Marisa_C: ... group bonding should be part of the deal #eltchat This is where blogging or disussion on Facenook pages etc. can be good

Marisa_C

11:15 PM

@theteacherjames  #eltchat I think you are absilutely right James - we don't teach behaviours, we model them

DinaDobrou

11:15 PM

@Marisa_C Gd to CU 2. Will try to catch up. :) #ELTchat

esoldaveglasgow

11:15 PM

@BrunoELT I agree it is part of our job to help st-st rapport. Small group tasks reveal the students' traits, likes, dislikes #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:16 PM

You can help to create rapport by giving the class collective responsibilities, an all-in-this-together effort. #eltchat

hartle

11:16 PM

RT @chiasuan: As people we can learn from. #eltchat Yes this is really important. Learning from each other and reducing hierarchies

andyscott55

11:16 PM

#eltchat sts can pick up on our energy - even when we think we're hiding how we feel!

fionamau

11:16 PM

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Is it possible 2b a good teacher w/out rapport with our sts? > I don't think so - they need 2 connect 2 the learning

fionamau

11:17 PM

#eltchat I agree rapport & confidence r both essential/overlap, but not quite the same - rapport is built early then usually has own dynamic

esoldaveglasgow

11:17 PM

#eltchat Anything extra-mural seems to reduce affective barriers - library induction, cafe, careers office, council office etc.

Marisa_C

11:17 PM

@fionamau  #ELTchat is it possible to be a good T without dg rapport? Very difficult - Ss will block the learning if fearful of anxious

theteacherjames

11:17 PM

@ljp2010 Thanks, had to rack my brains! #eltchat

fionamau

11:18 PM

#eltchat Confidence takes longer to build, grows partially out of rapport but needs more conscious maintenance.

hartle

11:18 PM

#eltchat teaching is communication and rapport is key if you want to teach you have to be able to understand too

tim_crangle

11:18 PM

But empathy has to be more subtly built with teens/young adults #ELTchat

elawassell

11:18 PM

RT@hartle: did a 1st lesson with Google maps. Stds showed home on map and talked abt it. Version of tried & tested activity bt more #ELTchat

hartle

11:19 PM

#eltchat confidence is also about self image and fear. If stds feel at ease they will be able to risk more and gain confidence

DinaDobrou

11:19 PM

@BrunoELT True, Bruno. There has to be a reason for them to communicate. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:19 PM

Agree that confidence refers to linguistic factors -fluency,lack of fear of mistakes- not based on rapport but cannot be w/o it #eltchat

elawassell

11:19 PM

RT @hartle: teaching is communication and rapport is key if you want to teach you have to be able to understand too <- so true!

fionamau

11:19 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Using collaborative tasks great but building a sense of community and group bonding should be part of the deal #eltchat

rschurter

11:19 PM

RT @theconsultantse: Mindmapping with Mindmaple http://t.co/BUSBtkPv #edtech #eltchat #ellchat #education #teachers via @NikPeachey

hartle

11:19 PM

RT @fionamau: #eltchat Confidence takes longer to build, grows partially out of rapport but needs more conscious maintenance. Yes

fionamau

11:19 PM

#eltchat Also, rapport is more interpersonal, whilst confidence is largely intrapersonal (supported by external factors)

hartle

11:20 PM

#eltchat you can be confident with very few linguistic resources, if you have to... Intonation can work wonders. It's psychological

ljp2010

11:20 PM

#ELTchat Carol Reed did a great talk about praise in the classroom.  So important but it must be genuine to build confidence.

chiasuan

11:20 PM

@BrunoELT Without the 'I am your teacher so I know better' attitude. They're roles in life aren't 'students'. They r individuals. #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:21 PM

@chiasuan Yes, I like to think of my classes as places where the sts & I collaborate on 'investigating' the language. #eltchat

hartle

11:21 PM

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat ... it must be genuine to build confidence.  Yes, I really agree with this. There's nothing worse ..praise 4 nothing

esoldaveglasgow

11:21 PM

#eltchat Rapport may not be so vital in some cases. Did u never have a "severe" school teacher in whose class you learned a lot?

tim_crangle

11:21 PM

1 of my students lately admitted he had been scared of me for the last 3 years!! Always considered mself as easy-going so v srprsd #ELTchat

andyscott55

11:21 PM

RT @hartle: #eltchat confidence is also about self image and fear. If stds feel at ease they will be able to risk more and gain confidence

designerlessons

11:21 PM

RT @chiasuan: Create rapport? Not treating them as students...but as individual clients. As people we can learn from. #eltchat

DinaDobrou

11:21 PM

RT @chiasuan: Create rapport? Not treating them as students...but as individual clients. As people we can learn from. #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:22 PM

RT @chiasuan: @theteacherjames Absolutely! Love that...! Being fellow collaborators! #eltchat

fionamau

11:22 PM

#eltchat @Marisa_C re is rapport necessary, yes, I agree - I train YL teachers - rapport is largely the difference btwn a Teacher & ..well..

elawassell

11:22 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @theteacherjames  #eltchat I think you are absilutely right James - we dont teach behaviours, we model them #ELTchat

theteacherjames

11:23 PM

@fionamau Good rapport within a class can potentially lead to increased st confidence, I think. #eltchat

andyscott55

11:23 PM

RT @andyscott55: # you know things are going well when sts look forward to their classes #eltchat

chiasuan

11:23 PM

I use the term 'energetic antenna' to describe the role of the teacher. She/he conducts and holds the energy of the group. #eltchat

hartle

11:24 PM

#eltchat ... so online space for discussion helps some to express themselves, but not everyone

hartle

11:24 PM

#eltchat a lot depends on motivation of tds though. I.n large classes (90+)  at uni difficult to create rapport or foster confidence

ljp2010

11:24 PM

@andyscott55 and teachers too!  #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:24 PM

@fionamau The YL teacher relies LARGELY on rapport  #eltchat

esoldaveglasgow

11:24 PM

#eltchat anything extra-mural seems to reduce the affective barrier and the students reveal traits to one another

theteacherjames

11:25 PM

@chiasuan And I love 'energetic antenna'! #eltchat

elawassell

11:25 PM

It's important to have an "I'm here to help you learn and be better" attitude.  #ELTchat

andyscott55

11:25 PM

RT @andyscott55: # important to find balane between getting the work done and swinging from the lights! #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:25 PM

@hartle  #eltchat do u have to teach classes of 90+? What about groups within the class?

DinaDobrou

11:25 PM

But can we really build rapport with ALL our sts? Not everyone is approachable. #ELTchat

tim_crangle

11:25 PM

@esoldaveglasgow I'm sure we've all had at least 1 of those teachers Dave - but doesn't being strict also count as rapport? #ELTchat

fionamau

11:25 PM

#eltchat Where's @Shaunwilden ? The COLT was an interesting experience in online rapport... and in confidence as key factor

theteacherjames

11:25 PM

@tim_crangle Interesting. How did that make you feel? #ELTchat

theteacherjames

11:26 PM

@DinaDobrou As long as we've tried, we've done our our bit. #ELTchat

hartle

11:26 PM

#eltchat we always do group work of course, even in large classes and that helps, as well as personalisation

hartle

11:27 PM

RT @fionamau: RT @Marisa_C: Agree that confidence refers to linguistic factors #eltchat > Confidence can also relate to perceived progress/learning.

hartle

11:27 PM

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat This feels like a big "love in" today ;-)  So how ...Find out passions? yes and provide different spaces like linoit

PlanELT

11:27 PM

RT @theteacherjames: @chiasuan And I love 'energetic antenna'! #eltchat

fionamau

11:27 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Agree that confidence refers to linguistic factors #eltchat > Confidence can also relate to perceived progress/learning.

Marisa_C

11:27 PM

I never tire of suggesting you all look at J Hadfield's book "Classroom Dynamics" some great ideas there for team building bonding #Eltchat

theteacherjames

11:27 PM

RT @elawassell: It's important to have an "I'm here to help you learn and be better" attitude.  #ELTchat

ljp2010

11:27 PM

#ELTchat This feels like a big "love in" today ;-)  So how to do this with classes?  Find out passions?

fionamau

11:28 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat ... whilst rapport is key in setting that learning in motion. Indifference is the greatest enemy of learning

hartle

11:28 PM

RT @esoldaveglasgow: @tim_crangle #eltchat I think 'authoritative' teacher is a great starting point >> Also depends on type of learner

Marisa_C

11:28 PM

There is also a lot to be said for some NLP practices - "In your Hands" by Jane Revell has some nice ideas #ELTchat

esoldaveglasgow

11:28 PM

@tim_crangle #eltchat I think 'authoritative' teacher is a great starting point and T can give autonomy as fast/slow as appropriate.

ljp2010

11:28 PM

RT @Marisa_C: J Hadfield's book "Classroom Dynamics" some great ideas there for team building bonding #Eltchat Yes, a great book.

hartle

11:29 PM

RT @fionamau: #eltchat (I'm out of practice!! and getting lost..... :(  ) Me too

elawassell

11:29 PM

RT @esoldaveglasgow: I think authoritative teacher is a great starting point and T can give autonomy as fast/slow as appropriate. #ELTchat

fionamau

11:29 PM

#eltchat (I'm out of practice!! and getting lost..... :(  )

DinaDobrou

11:29 PM

@theteacherjames @BrunoELT Totally agree with you! #ELTchat

andyscott55

11:29 PM

#eltchat find common ground as a starting point - could be anything form football to opera

Marisa_C

11:30 PM

RT @fionamau: #eltchat A question How do u focus yr 1st class w each group to be able to build rapport to maximum effect?

chiasuan

11:30 PM

@BrunoELT @theteacherjames When my students get along well with each other, I take credit for being a good 'energetic antenna'! #eltchat

sandymillin

11:30 PM

Sorry I'm late! Catching up #eltchat

fionamau

11:30 PM

#eltchat A question re rapport building? How do u focus yr 1st class w each group to be able to build rapport to maximum effect?

theteacherjames

11:31 PM

@chiasuan @BrunoELT So what happens when they don't? Bad reception? ;-) #eltchat

fionamau

11:31 PM

RT @fionamau: @BrunoELT Hehehe, nope - just being nosey. Observing trainees, you see such a range of attempts... #eltchat

DinaDobrou

11:31 PM

@fionamau I know how it feels...I've been there too. Won't be long before you get used to it. Promise. :D #ELTchat

hartle

11:31 PM

RT @chiasuan: @BrunoELT @theteacherjames  'energetic antenna'! #eltchat Missed this :-(8 what is the "energetic antenna" ?

tim_crangle

11:32 PM

Subgroup interviews? RT @fionamau: #eltchat How do u focus yr 1st class to be able to build rapport to maximum effect? #ELTchat

sandymillin

11:33 PM

RT @hartle: #eltchat you can be confident with very few linguistic resources, if you have to... Intonation can work wonders. It's psychological

Marisa_C

11:33 PM

Learning is social - at its best- cannot be as rich if class 'falling apart" - need to get class to gel #eltchat

esoldaveglasgow

11:33 PM

#eltchat I recommend Alan McLean "Motivated School" and " Motivating Every Learner" : structure, stimulus, affiliation and feedback

DinaDobrou

11:33 PM

@Marisa_C @fionamau Plan activities that gradually allow sts to open up. From simple ice-breakers to more in-depth discussions. #ELTchat

chiasuan

11:33 PM

@hartle @BrunoELT @theteacherjames U know when there's a change of manager and the atmosphere of the team changes? #eltchat

fionamau

11:33 PM

RT @Marisa_C The YL teacher relies LARGELY on rapport  #eltchat > Yep,  but so many trainees don't get that!

hartle

11:34 PM

#eltchat 1st lesson intro to course, work to do and to group. This is my stds 1st lesson noticeboard http://t.co/kzTege3f

sandymillin

11:34 PM

RT @fionamau: #eltchat Where's @Shaunwilden ? The COLT was an interesting experience in online rapport... and in confidence as key factor

theteacherjames

11:34 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Learning is social - at its best- cannot be as rich if class 'falling apart" - need to get class to gel #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:34 PM

@hartle Have a look at Chia's tweets for an explanation :-) #eltchat

fionamau

11:35 PM

@DinaDobrou @tim_crangle How far do you get involved in the chat, the 1st day? Or do u just observe & 'people-manage'? #eltchat

hartle

11:35 PM

RT @theteacherjames: @hartle Have a look at Chia's tweets for an explanation :-) #eltchat will do later :-))

sandymillin

11:35 PM

RT @elawassell: It's important to have an "I'm here to help you learn and be better" attitude.  #ELTchat

sandymillin

11:36 PM

@fionamau hmmm...re: 1st class. Lots of names practice and usage. All names on board (small classes so lucky!) and taking it slowly #eltchat

ljp2010

11:36 PM

#Eltchat I tend to get on with the lesson on 1st day, allow them to know each other thru the subject.  rapport isn't built overnight.

esoldaveglasgow

11:37 PM

@sandymillin #eltchat I love ur suggestion of intonation. I think pronunciation is often overlooked and under-used. Quick, shared successes

fionamau

11:37 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Learning is social - at its best- cannot be as rich if class 'falling apart" - need to get class to gel #eltchat

sandymillin

11:37 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Learning is social - at its best- cannot be as rich if class 'falling apart" - need to get class to gel #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:37 PM

RT @theteacherjames: A great deal of rapport comes from how you treat the sts from day one. First impressions are important. #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:37 PM

A great deal of rapport comes from how you treat the sts from day one. First impressions are important. #eltchat

DinaDobrou

11:37 PM

@fionamau @tim_crangle The latter. It's like needs analysis. They can connect with their classmates 1st & I can find an opening...#ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:38 PM

I think a social event early on - is quite important - most schools leave it till too late #eltchat

hartle

11:38 PM

RT @theteacherjames:  ... from day one. First impressions are important. #eltchat Yes , class dynamics established quickly

sandymillin

11:38 PM

RT @theteacherjames: A great deal of rapport comes from how you treat the sts from day one. First impressions are important. #eltchat

tim_crangle

11:38 PM

Starting course off with a 'bang', throwing sweets, squirting students with water pistols ... #ELTchat

theteacherjames

11:38 PM

@sandymillin @fionamau A little thing like learning their names is vital (and not forcing them to adopt English ones!) #eltchat

sandymillin

11:38 PM

@esoldaveglasgow Thanks for that, but usage of intonation was suggested by @hartle  #eltchat

sandymillin

11:38 PM

@fionamau And I take part in everything students do in 1st class, or be around a lot #eltchat

PlanELT

11:39 PM

I think rapport can depend on the mix of Ss too, I have a class, who individually are lovely but as a group are hard work #eltchat

sandymillin

11:39 PM

RT @andyscott55: #eltchat sts personal characteristics play big part - its not just about language - the social element is so important

ljp2010

11:39 PM

#Eltchat Have 2 go.  Thx & look forward to the summary.

hartle

11:39 PM

RT @theteacherjames: @sandymillin @fionamau  #eltchat Using names really important (but not so easy with larger groups)

sandymillin

11:39 PM

Do you ever have a group you get on with, but with one student who just won't gel? What do you do then? #eltchat

fionamau

11:39 PM

@theteacherjames #eltchat I agree totally - learning how to pronounce names, too. And where we sit / stand influences too

hartle

11:40 PM

RT @sandymillin: Do you ever have a group ...with one student who just won't gel?  #eltchat Yes, and they are always different.

theteacherjames

11:40 PM

@hartle It's okay to make mistakes sometimes, the most important thing is that they see you're trying. #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:40 PM

We are neglecting building confidence - how do you build Ss' confidence esp when u ask them to produce lang freely and publicly #eltchat

sandymillin

11:41 PM

@Marisa_C build confidence through comfortable non-confrontational atmosphere. give them chance to practise alone/in pairs first #eltchat

hartle

11:41 PM

RT @Marisa_C: We are neglecting building confidence..when u ask them to produce lang freely and publicly #eltchat Relhearsal essential

stangea

11:41 PM

@DinaDobrou @chiasuan #eltchat "client" is not a favoured word of mine. "Student" is fine, public education suffers under a business model.

DinaDobrou

11:41 PM

Currently working at summer school w/ international sts & classes change evry week. Really hard to establish (& maintain) rapport. #ELTchat

tim_crangle

11:41 PM

Student (and teacher) nickname games 'Brilliant Bob', 'Lovely Linda', 'Creative Carole' etc. #ELTchat

theteacherjames

11:41 PM

@fionamau Yes, classroom layout can affect things. #eltchat

hartle

11:41 PM

RT @theteacherjames:  It's okay to make mistakes sometimes, the most important thing is that they see you're trying. #eltchat Yes, agree :-)

andyscott55

11:41 PM

#eltchat must go - eltchat rocks!

fionamau

11:41 PM

@hartle @theteacherjames: @sandymillin #eltchat No, not so easy w big grps but like conf. workshops, eye contact, smiling & remembering help

fionamau

11:42 PM

@hartle @theteacherjames: @sandymillin #eltchat By 'remembering', I mean remember what ppl said, or cross-refer to students' contributions

Marisa_C

11:42 PM

@hartle Agree fully - rehearsal and preparation (private;closed grp) before public performance  #eltchat

hartle

11:42 PM

RT @andyscott55: #eltchat must go - eltchat rocks! Bye Andy

theteacherjames

11:42 PM

@BrunoELT It' shard to create rapport when you have one bad apple. That's tough. #eltchat

fionamau

11:43 PM

@theteacherjames #eltchat To make mistakes, and to not know the answers! (Tho that can depend on teaching context & students in yr class...)

hartle

11:43 PM

RT @fionamau: @hartle @theteacherjames: @sandymillin #eltchat By 'remembering', I mean remember what ppl said, or cross-refer to students' contributions

stangea

11:43 PM

@DinaDobrou @chiasuan #eltchat that qualified, you are right, rapport requires a response to people as individuals.

hartle

11:43 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @hartle Agree fully - rehearsal and preparation (private;closed grp) before public performance  #eltchat and micro teaching..

tim_crangle

11:43 PM

@hartle: @sandymillin: Do you ever have a group ...with one student who just wont gel? Yes have 1 st who refuses 2 pair with others #ELTchat

esoldaveglasgow

11:43 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat Criteria checklists, voice recorders and then peer then self evaluation in small groups or alone on voice recorders

DinaDobrou

11:44 PM

@BrunoELT Currently working at summer school w/ international sts & classes change evry week. Really hard to establish rapport. #ELTchat

sandymillin

11:44 PM

Using @edmodo http://t.co/3qZeCXAL has really helped improve rapport with SS - continues things outside class http://t.co/G03mPoB0 #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:45 PM

Build confidence by asking questions without one clear answer. Unlikely the st will be wrong, although you may disagree with them. #eltchat

nick_adams84

11:45 PM

Confidence - give Ss chance to prepare/think before speaking, then react appropriately after; genuine praise & sensitive correction #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:45 PM

@fionamau will have a look - share some links pls  #eltchat

sandymillin

11:45 PM

@tim_crangle although sometimes making them work with others not necessary - e.g. they write things not spk #ELTchat = treat as individuals

fionamau

11:45 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat I'm blogging on confidence... three posts up, three (or is it four?) to go.... ;)

hartle

11:45 PM

#eltchat so we create rappost by responding to people and help them build confidence by giving them tools , space and encouragement

hartle

11:46 PM

RT @theteacherjames: Build confidence by asking questions without one clear answer. #eltchat and by asking motivating questions in general

PlanELT

11:46 PM

@sandymillin @Marisa_C trying to get students to experience ownership of their learning and feel proud of their achievements #eltchat

stangea

11:46 PM

@esoldaveglasgow #eltchat that is a challenging question for me. There are nuances in relationships, even characterized as severe.

theteacherjames

11:46 PM

Build confidence by making sts aware of the things they are doing well, especially if it's something they couldn't do before. #eltchat

Sharonzspace

11:46 PM

@marisa_c also about remembering the individual.  Taking time to be interested in them for themselves #ELTCHAT

sandymillin

11:46 PM

@DinaDobrou I found rapport difficult at summer school sometimes, but taking part in afternoon activities with kids helped #ELTchat

hartle

11:46 PM

RT @sandymillin: @tim_crangle #ELTchat = treat as individuals Yes... Pairwork Grpwork must be meaningful, not just rote teaching

hartle

11:47 PM

#eltchat create confidence by getting stds to bring own materials and post /write questions during presentations etc. for later discussion

Marisa_C

11:47 PM

@Sharonzspace  #ELTCHAT yes - fastish pace and huff puff puff don't allow Ts to show appreciation for Ss' answers

fionamau

11:48 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat Parts 4 and 5 are in my notebook to go up this weekend...  Emotional Response , and Repetition. Last one Whole Learning

sandymillin

11:48 PM

Encourage students to build each other's confidence too - builds rapport between them #eltchat

esoldaveglasgow

11:48 PM

#eltchat Give learners 'meta-language'. "I couldn't spell the word YYY.  Now I can spell it properly. " They own their progress.

elawassell

11:48 PM

RT @Sharonzspace: also about remembering the individual.Taking time to be interested in them for themselves <- Truly listen 2 them #ELTchat

fionamau

11:48 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat A Matter of Confidence part 1 http://t.co/8vb3gnB2  part 2 http://t.co/hl2kMyRy and part 3 http://t.co/tI0Vt9cn

hartle

11:49 PM

#eltchat have to go everyone. Thanks for a good chat :-) and to Marisa for moderating after a full day's training

DinaDobrou

11:49 PM

@sandymillin True, Sandy! Activities made me a better summer school T. It's more of a challenge when you teach full time. #ELTchat

sandymillin

11:49 PM

Levelling the playing field great too. e.g. if student A corrects others' pron, show other SS what pron they can correct 4 stdt A #eltchat

Sharonzspace

11:49 PM

@sandymillin also facebook groups for the same purpose.  Speeds up group building time and they become a team #ELTCHAT

Marisa_C

11:49 PM

@fionamau great Fiona thanks!!!  #eltchat

hartle

11:49 PM

RT @fionamau: @Marisa_C #eltchat A Matter of Confidence part 1 http://t.co/8vb3gnB2  part 2 http://t.co/hl2kMyRy and part 3 http://t.co/tI0Vt9cn

Marisa_C

11:50 PM

RT @nick_adams84: Focus explicity on the learning process sometimes; make Ss aware of what they have learnt #eltchat

sandymillin

11:50 PM

@DinaDobrou Yep! That's why I prefer a summer school with activities too - helps SS realise you are a real person too :) #ELTchat

fionamau

11:50 PM

#eltchat Confidence has a lot to do with the way learners see themselves, affective stuff, the 'I can' factor...your mind's eye & mind's ear

Marisa_C

11:50 PM

RT @fionamau:  #eltchat A Matter of Confidence part 1 http://t.co/4y2Fvxxx  part 2 http://t.co/jlRRvS53 and part 3 http://t.co/6ZI4wao6

nick_adams84

11:50 PM

Focus explicity on the learning process sometimes; make Ss aware of what they have learnt #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:50 PM

RT @fionamau: @Marisa_C #eltchat A Matter of Confidence part 1 http://t.co/8vb3gnB2  part 2 http://t.co/hl2kMyRy and part 3 http://t.co/tI0Vt9cn

Marisa_C

11:51 PM

@nick_adams84  #eltchat I agree with you - I think Ts don't talk to Ss enough about their learning - more time shd be spent on this

Marisa_C

11:52 PM

@Sharonzspace Yes, socialising outside the class is also important  #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:52 PM

@fionamau  #eltchat grt to see u thanks for links to posts :-)

DinaDobrou

11:52 PM

@sandymillin The school does have activities, it's just that when ur day ends at 9 ur just dead knackered 2 C sts at activities. #ELTchat

Sharonzspace

11:52 PM

@marisa_c also the corrridor or the lunch queue is just as important as the classroom to build a rapport #eltchat

PlanELT

11:52 PM

I ask Ss to lead the feedback, think its good for confidence both in speaking publicly and language knowledge #eltchat

fionamau

11:52 PM

RT @hartle: #eltchat have to go everyone. Thanks for a good chat :-) and to Marisa for moderating after a full day's training > Good 2 c u!

fionamau

11:53 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @fionamau  #eltchat grt to see u thanks for links to posts :-) > Still here for a few mins... change of plan :)

DinaDobrou

11:53 PM

@sandymillin Also establish firm rules about bullying of any kind in and out of class. Can seriously ruin sts confidence. #ELTchat

fionamau

11:53 PM

RT @Sharonzspace: @marisa_c also the corrridor or the lunch queue = as important as the classroom to build a rapport #eltchat > or more so!

Marisa_C

11:54 PM

Give weaker Ss the 'key' to check answers to exercises #eltchat - share responsibilities

Marisa_C

11:54 PM

Get weaker Ss to moderate a discussion #eltchat

tim_crangle

11:55 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @nick_adams84  - more time shd be spent on tlkng about their learning Yes but diff when u need 2 avoid L1 #ELTchat

theteacherjames

11:55 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Give weaker Ss the 'key' to check answers to exercises #eltchat - share responsibilities

YmnPearl

11:55 PM

@Marisa_C the reactions of Ts and they way she/he behaves either push the Ss up or down. #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:55 PM

Find ways to make the sts adopt the role of the teacher. Give them responsibility. #eltchat

Sharonzspace

11:55 PM

@elawassell when a learner is having a confidence crisis just grabbing them for a short walk and talk can be a game changer #ELTCHAT

fionamau

11:55 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Get weaker Ss to moderate a discussion #eltchat > Yes! Or be 'web-master' on the class blog, so they have non-exposing control

Marisa_C

11:56 PM

@ELTExperiences whoever u as the T think needs it - weaker OR quieter  #ELTChat

fionamau

11:56 PM

RT @YmnPearl: @Marisa_C the reactions of Ts and they way she/he behaves either push the Ss up or down. #eltchat

DinaDobrou

11:56 PM

@chiasuan @stangea Indeed some sts r clients esp. if ur teaching in-house courses. My BE 'clients' think of the word st as a joke #ELTchat

sandymillin

11:56 PM

RT @Sharonzspace: @marisa_c also the corrridor or the lunch queue is just as important as the classroom to build a rapport #eltchat

ELTExperiences

11:56 PM

@Marisa_C how would you define "weaker students"? Those that are quieter or unable to speak? Good idea though. #ELTChat

elawassell

11:56 PM

RT @Sharonzspace: when a learner is having a confidence crisis just grabbing them for a short walk and talk can be a game changer #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:56 PM

RT @YmnPearl: @Marisa_C the reactions of Ts and they way she/he behaves either push the Ss up or down. #eltchat > V true

fionamau

11:57 PM

RT @theteacherjames: Find ways to make the sts adopt the role of the teacher. Give them responsibility. #eltchat Also 4 generating materials

Marisa_C

11:57 PM

@YmnPearl Ss rise up or stoop down to meet OUR expecations  #eltchat

PlanELT

11:57 PM

Thank you very much #eltchat Have to go and finish prepping EAP lessons before I fall asleep!

YmnPearl

11:57 PM

@Marisa_C After that, the teacher may have a seat and let that S to write the answers on the board as the teacher does. #eltchat

esoldaveglasgow

11:57 PM

#eltchat Thank-you all for chat tonight

tim_crangle

11:58 PM

Clients vs Students is a chat theme in its own right #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:58 PM

@BrunoELT  #eltchat how didi you guess? :-D

DinaDobrou

11:59 PM

@chiasuan @stangea No way you can get away with that in a class of teenagers. You're toast! #ELTchat

fionamau

12:01 AM

#eltchat Now I do have to go. Great chat. I'd missed them... 'see' you next week, I hope.

designerlessons

12:01 AM

having Ss work toward a common goal e.g. using English outside the classroom*sharing results is motivational & builds confidence #ELTchat

YmnPearl

12:01 AM

RT @Marisa_C: @YmnPearl Ss rise up or stoop down to meet OUR expecations  #eltchat

Marisa_C

12:02 AM

Do we have a volunteer for the summary or should i get violent? #eltchat :-D

YmnPearl

12:02 AM

@BrunoELT @Marisa_C It will be a nice idea so we can get lots of ideas and tips in a one place. #eltchat

theteacherjames

12:02 AM

Thanks for a great chat everyone, until next time... #eltchat

Marisa_C

12:02 AM

Will see u all for the evening #ELtchat again next week - not able to make the 1st one this month - sorry!

designerlessons

12:02 AM

@chiasuan there has to be boundary for teens and YLs, so roles are essential there. After that they should be dropped #eltchat

elawassell

12:02 AM

RT @designerlessons: having Ss work toward a common goal e.g. using English outside the classroom*sharing results is motivational.. #ELTchat

elawassell

12:03 AM

@designerlessons Agree! We prepared a play for parents - afterwords the kids were so proud of themselves and very motivated!  #ELTchat

DinaDobrou

12:03 AM

Thank you #ELTchat for great ideas.

DinaDobrou

12:04 AM

@Marisa_C I'd love to volunteer again when summer school's over (that's 3 more weeks). I'm really over my ears now. :( #ELTchat

Marisa_C

12:07 AM

RT @YmnPearl: Could u plz suggest a site for a very simple conversation for a pre-foundation or foundation levels? #ESL #ELTchat

tim_crangle

12:08 AM

What has to be done and when does it have to be done for? (would hate Marisa to get violent!) #ELTchat

designerlessons

12:08 AM

@elawassell it's great to see Ss happy, and makes things so much easier when they have that extra reason to learn. #eltchat

Marisa_C

12:09 AM

@tim_crangle A summary of the tweets from the transcript - have u seen our other summaries? Can help you if you are offering to try #ELTchat

YmnPearl

12:09 AM

RT @Marisa_C: RT @YmnPearl: @Marisa_C the reactions of Ts and they way she/he behaves either push the Ss up or down. #eltchat > V true

Marisa_C

12:11 AM

RT @tim_crangle: OK, as the 500th member of the FB group I feel I have a certain duty!! Cld u show me the other summaries? #ELTchat Hurray!

tim_crangle

12:11 AM

OK, as the 500th member of the FB group I feel I have a certain duty!! Cld u show me the other summaries? #ELTchat

sandymillin

12:11 AM

Wittertainment Code of Conduct http://t.co/UARVqtzL is this week's #infiniteeltideas prompt. Hello Jason! #eltchat #efl #esl

Marisa_C

12:13 AM

@tim_crangle our 500th FB grp member just volunteered - many thanks and here is the link to other summaries http://t.co/0mk3ceOE #ELTchat