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Creating Materials for Scratch as Coursebook Complements

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This is the transcript of the first #ELTchat on 94/07/2012 at 12 P.M. BST

 

The full title: Creating materials from scratch as course book complements, how to make them effective tasks - here is the Word Document

 

Username

Time

Tweets

theteacherjames

12:00

RT @Shaunwilden: Today's #eltchat 'Creating materials from scratch as course book complements, how to make them effective tasks - ready to join in?

Shaunwilden

12:00

Today's #eltchat 'Creating materials from scratch as course book complements, how to make them effective tasks - ready to join in?

Shaunwilden

12:01

Welcome all #eltchat

ljp2010

12:01

#ELTchat Morning everyone!  Been a while...

esolcourses

12:01

RT @Shaunwilden: Today's #eltchat 'Creating materials from scratch as course book complements, how to make them effective tasks

ljp2010

12:02

@Shaunwilden  Had enough steak yet?   #ELTchat

LizziePinard

12:02

#eltchat hi all! :)

theteacherjames

12:02

@Shaunwilden Hi. Where are you today? Still in South America? #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:02

@ljp2010 Morning Lisa #eltchat

ljp2010

12:03

#ELTchat@theteacherjames  Yes, Shaun's been visiting us :-)

Teachersilvert

12:03

hello everyone impatient to discover about the newest topic discussed #eltchat

theteacherjames

12:03

@Shaunwilden @ljp2010 Argentina? #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:03

#eltchat hi @vickyloras!

eMCDesignLtd

12:03

RT @shaunwilden: Today's #eltchat 'Creating materials from scratch as course book complements, how to make them effective tasks - ready...

sophie_orourke

12:03

RT @shaunwilden: Today's #eltchat 'Creating materials from scratch as course book complements, how to make them effective tasks - ready...

elawassell

12:03

Hello everyone! #ELTchat

vickyloras

12:03

Following #ELTChat until my students arrive - they are a bit late today ; )))

Shaunwilden

12:03

@ljp2010 @theteacherjames  Had my last steak here last night, off to the airport stright after #eltchat

teacherphili

12:04

My tweets (if I send any if the next hour) will be #ELTchat related.  Oops, there's one right there. #ELTchat

theteacherjames

12:04

@ljp2010 Lucky @Shaunwilden1 (and you, of course!) #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

12:04

@theteacherjames @ljp2010 yes am in san Isidro in Argentina though last week i was at @ljp2010  school   #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:05

Right then down to business - materials....#eltchat

esolcourses

12:05

@Shaunwilden can do... though creating materials to use instead of course books  is more my kind of thing ;-P #ELTChat

touqo

12:05

RT @Shaunwilden: Today's #eltchat 'Creating materials from scratch as course book complements, how to make them effective tasks - ready to join in?

Shaunwilden

12:05

@esolcourses Yes thats true but I would suspect the 'issues' of effectiveness are the same :-) #eltchat

andyscott55

12:05

#eltchat hello?

LizziePinard

12:05

#eltchat how to measure effectiveness?

esolcourses

12:06

@Shaunwilden yes, I'm sure they are... hence the wink ;-) #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:06

RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat how to measure effectiveness? - good question

ljp2010

12:06

#ELTchat Okay, so I'll start with the obvious - why create them in the 1st place?

rliberni

12:06

HI everyone creating materials - that takes me back!! #eltchat

esolcourses

12:06

@Raquel_EFL cheers, Raquel :-) #eltchat

Teachersilvert

12:06

@ljp2010 creativity  I guess, I feel more in control of the lesson. #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:07

@ljp2010 Well sometimes you might need a task that is more honed to the sts than the cbk #eltchat

rliberni

12:07

@ljp2010  to  fit the students, to be creative,  if you haven't access to anything else may still b the case in some places #eltchat

rliberni

12:07

RT @Teachersilvert: @ljp2010 creativity  I guess, I feel more in control of the lesson. #eltchat

esolcourses

12:07

I think the first question I would ask myself if creating materials to use with a coursebook is what will they add to the activity? #eltchat

touqo

12:08

What do you mean by "from scratch" in this context? Your own stuff or by combining sth e.g. from the web. Thinking of copyrights. #eltchat

elawassell

12:08

What kind of materials can we produce? Where to look for inspiration?
 #ELTchat

ljp2010

12:08

#ELTchat + greater relevance/interest to the sts

Shaunwilden

12:08

RT @elawassell: What kind of materials can we produce? Where to look for inspiration?
 #ELTchat

rliberni

12:08

RT @elawassell: What kind of materials can we produce? Where to look for inspiration?
 #ELTchat

sophie_orourke

12:08

Do people find that their own materials get a better response/reaction from their students than the course books? #eltchat

teacherphili

12:08

@Shaunwilden @ljp2010  'Personalisation' springs to mind. Creating tasks based on actual students & teacher in the room #ELTchat

theteacherjames

12:08

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Okay, so I'll start with the obvious - why create them in the 1st place?

rliberni

12:09

@sophie_orourke  good question if they are very focused maybe if they fit into the scheme of things probably #eltchat

ljp2010

12:09

#ELTchat @sophie_orourke  Depends on sts!  Some say they should use the CB more as they find it "more serious"  -direct st fb quote!

teacherphili

12:09

I will suggest creating materials where learners need to be engaged, hence 'personalisation' #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

12:09

@teacherphili Wholly agree - I guess then the thing to consider is time to create versus classroom use #eltchat

Teachersilvert

12:10

creating activities yourself makes the lesson more authentic; we can use personal stuff and data related students. #eltchat

rliberni

12:10

@elawassell  I think reading and writing exercises are often better produced or adapted #eltchat

esolcourses

12:10

@elawassell @touqo see my guest post on @barbsaka's blog for links to CC & Public domain sources you can use http://t.co/God6y5l8  #eltchat

elawassell

12:10

If we create materials on topics that our Ss are interested in - surely this should help effectiveness.
 #ELTchat

Teachersilvert

12:10

I feel that creating materials is what makes me want to be a teacher #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:10

#eltchat more practical in some situations than others, i'd think

sophie_orourke

12:10

Do you feel that Publishers of course materials give you enough additional scope to create own material based on their content? #eltchat

esolcourses

12:11

RT @elawassell: If we create materials on topics that our Ss are interested in - surely this should help effectiveness. #ELTchat ] agree

ljp2010

12:11

@Teachersilvert More authentic to the language u or 1 use but are we just trusting our instinct.  Is that enough?  #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

12:11

There are some good questions being asked today :-) #eltchat

andyscott55

12:11

#eltchat thats often true sophie - and even more so when the stss make their own!

theteacherjames

12:11

@teacherphili @Shaunwilden @ljp2010 1 of the main problems with CB's is their unavoidably general nature. Adapt to personalise #ELTchat

Teachersilvert

12:11

@sophie_orourke no difficult to adapt to contents you haven't contributed to #eltchat

elawassell

12:11

RT @rliberni: @elawassell  I think reading and writing exercises are often better produced or adapted #ELTchat

theteacherjames

12:11

@Raquel_EFL @teacherphili Classes with more than one student can have a personality too! #ELTchat

touqo

12?12

Reusing some existing methods & best practices might be easier than materials re:copyright questions. #eltchat

LauraAustinNow

12:12

#ELTchat where do you draw the line between creating great content for your students and merely replicating what a publisher has created?

rliberni

12:12

@sophie_orourke  many cbs today seem to have thought of most things with lost of add-ons #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:12

@touqo What do you mean by methods and practices? #eltchat

esolcourses

12:12

@elawassell materials need to be underpinned by pedagogy though I'd say, to ensure learning needs are met, as well as having fun :) #ELTChat

elawassell

12:12

RT @theteacherjames:  1 of the main problems with CBs is their unavoidably general nature. Adapt to personalise #ELTchat

LauraAustinNow

12:12

@elawassell: If we create materials on topics Ss are interested in - surely this should help effectiveness. #ELTchat > if you get it right

theteacherjames

12:12

@Teachersilvert Then you should be a coursebook writer! #eltchat

rliberni

12:13

Creating games, role-plays and other speaking activities can be a great way to personalise  your content , not always in cbs #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:13

@LauraAustinNow Hi Laura, what do you mean by replicate? #eltchat

vickyloras

12:13

RT @elawassell: RT @theteacherjames:  1 of the main problems with CBs is their unavoidably general nature. Adapt to personalise #ELTchat

sophie_orourke

12:13

Have digital products and resources #LMS's helped to make personalisation easier? Or r they still missing the point? #eltchat

rliberni

12:13

RT @ljp2010: @Teachersilvert More authentic to the language u or 1 use but are we just trusting our instinct.  Is that enough?  #ELTchat

elawassell

12:13

RT@esolcourses: materials need to be underpinned by pedagogy though Id say, to ensure learning needs are met, as well as having fun #ELTchat

Teachersilvert

12:13

@theteacherjames I enjoy teaching the most actually. I feel like bringing my homemade cake to the party.A bit of pride maybe #eltchat

LauraAustinNow

12:13

@Shaunwilden creating content which might exist in a similar format in a course book somewhere … #ELTchat

rliberni

12:14

Also gets over the problem of out of date stuff in CBs (can happen fast) #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:14

@LauraAustinNow Aha, but then how is the teacher to know it might exist somewhere :-) #eltchat

theteacherjames

12:14

@sophie_orourke Definitely not. Far too prescriptive and general for my tastes. #eltchat

elawassell

12:14

RT @rliberni: Creating games, role-plays and other speaking activities can be a great way to personalise  your content (...) #ELTchat

esolcourses

12:14

RT @rliberni: Also gets over the problem of out of date stuff in CBs (can happen fast) #eltchat ] good point - & irrelevant stuff as well

ljp2010

12:14

Sts often find semi-authentic listenings memorable for the lang they feel they don't get from the CB  #ELTchat

rliberni

12:14

RT @touqo: Reusing some existing methods & best practices might be easier than materials re:copyright questions. #eltchat

sophie_orourke

12:15

#eltchat of course! RT @shaunwilden: @LauraAustinNow Aha, but then how is the teacher to know it might exist somewhere :-) #eltchat

teacherphili

12:15

RT @elawassell: RT @theteacherjames:  That's where personalisation before using CB can help where CB is a requirement #ELTchat

LizziePinard

12:15

#eltchat the more you do it, the more of a bank of resources you build up and if colleagues do too, bingo tons of resources!

touqo

12:15

@Shaunwilden e.g. a specific way to teach a topic the teacher has found useful. Share this info with others. #eltchat

rliberni

12:15

@touqo  it does certainly get around copyright issues esp. with online content - good point #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:15

@LauraAustinNow Well yes but quite simply the tchr will never know whats in all books :-) #eltchat

rliberni

12:15

RT @LauraAustinNow: #ELTchat where do you draw the line between creating great content for your students and merely replicating what a publisher has created?

theteacherjames

12:15

@LauraAustinNow If you're merely recreating publishers content you should be asking yourself why you're producing in the 1st place .#ELTchat

Shaunwilden

12:15

RT @touqo: @Shaunwilden e.g. a specific way to teach a topic the teacher has found useful. Share this info with others. #eltchat

LauraAustinNow

12:15

@Shaunwilden Ahha! Need a global directory of existing content ;) #ELTchat (just pains to see so much work repeated)

rliberni

12:16

RT @LauraAustinNow: @elawassell: If we create materials on topics Ss are interested in - surely this should help effectiveness. #ELTchat > if you get it right

esolcourses

12:16

@LauraAustinNow @Shaunwilden I'm not one for re-inventing the wheel myself, but not sure if overlap really matters that much, tbh #eltchat

theteacherjames

12:16

@Teachersilvert Completely agree. Proud of the lessons I'm able to come up, free of a CB! #eltchat

LauraAustinNow

12:16

@theteacherjames true. Tho it does happen. Have seen it many a time. #ELTchat

elawassell

12:16

RT @rliberni: @touqo  it does certainly get around copyright issues esp. with online content - good point << is credits enough? #ELTchat

touqo

12:17

@rliberni thanks! Of course it is often difficult to separate method from the content. #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:17

@esolcourses @marcusmurilo Yea agree with both of you on personalization and overlap s/times good #eltchat

rliberni

12:17

@sophie_orourke  can you give examples of the digital products you are thinking about? #eltchat

Teachersilvert

12:17

RT @theteacherjames: @Teachersilvert Completely agree. Proud of the lessons I'm able to come up, free of a CB! #eltchat yes!

esolcourses

12:17

@LauraAustinNow @Shaunwilden no two writers are likely to approach the same topic in the same way, I would have thought #eltchat

theteacherjames

12:17

@sophie_orourke I do think it's possible, but I haven't seen one yet. (don't forget the #eltchat hashatag!)

marcusmurilo

12:18

I think u can recreate publishers' content in a way that looks appealing & meaningful to ur Ss. don't see how that could be wrong. #eltchat

marynabadenhors

12:18

Teachers are not publishers, so instead of creating content for the kids, give them some resources and have them cre8 their own #ELTChat

LauraAustinNow

12:18

Guess adv. of creating extra content for IWB is it can be re-imagined for each set of students. Less re-working than traditionally #ELTchat

theteacherjames

12:18

@LauraAustinNow I did it myself once, but then realised it was a complete waste of time & changed my path. #ELTchat

rliberni

12:18

RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat the more you do it, the more of a bank of resources you build up and if colleagues do too, bingo tons of resources!

theteacherjames

12:18

@ljp2010 Always, always for the sts. (don't forget the #eltchat hashtag!)

theteacherjames

12:18

RT @ljp2010: @theteacherjames  True, but we're doing it for the sts, right? #eltchat

Teachersilvert

12?19

RT @marynabadenhors:  give them some resources and have them cre8 their own #ELTChat=>show them first how to maybe. The best test in class

ljp2010

12:19

@theteacherjames  Mustn't lose sight of that ;-)  And yes, must remember the hashtag - thx! #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

12:19

Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:19

RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:20

@LauraAustinNow why IWB in particular? #eltchat

danielshiro

12:20

@Shaunwilden how beneficial is having a different author write the teacher's guide for a coursebook? Drawbacks? #eltchat

esolcourses

12:20

@Teachersilvert @marynabadenhors or learn how to use the resources together, perhaps? Like that approch myself #eltchat

elawassell

12:20

RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #ELTchat

sophie_orourke

12:20

@rliberni eg #gloabl Cambridge LMS #eltchat http://t.co/7XUUhST4

Teachersilvert

12:20

RT @esolcourses: @Teachersilvert @marynabadenhors or learn how to use the resources together, perhaps? Like that approch myself #eltchat yes

esolcourses

12:20

RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat ] and produce mats for other groups of s's

LauraAustinNow

12:21

@harrisonmike well, as an example more than anything. Compared with old-school cutting out pieces for matching ex. #eltchat

touqo

12:21

@elawassell should it be up to the 1 who invents the method? Whether to cc it, sell, share without any restrictions, etc. @rliberni #eltchat

touqo

12:21

RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:21

RT @esolcourses: RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat ] and produce mats for other groups of s's

ljp2010

12:22

#ELTchat But if we as teachers have trouble create effective materials, will our sts be able to?  Agree it's good practice & fun..

theteacherjames

12:22

@sophie_orourke @shaunwilden @LauraAustinNow That's why teachers should blog & share their ideas & materials. #eltchat

rliberni

12:22

@LizziePinard  that echos the plenary at IATEF - stop re-inventing the wheel http://t.co/BpA8Fb95 #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:22

We have lots of pros and cons of why to create material, we should also talk about how to make it effective #eltchat

elawassell

12:22

RT @theteacherjames: @sophie_orourke @shaunwilden @LauraAustinNow Thats why teachers should blog & share their ideas & materials. #ELTchat

teacherphili

12:22

RT @theteacherjames: "Adapt to personalise" Something by Rose Senior on Personalisation in ETP http://t.co/8R8nXf8U #ELTchat

sophie_orourke

12:23

Has the role of teacher become more of an aggregator of content that already exists rather than creating new themselves? #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:23

RT @rliberni: @LizziePinard  that echos the plenary at IATEF - stop re-inventing the wheel http://t.co/BpA8Fb95 #eltchat

LauraAustinNow

12:23

.@Shaunwilden yes. Measurement of goals achieved? #ELTchat

elawassell

12:23

RT @Shaunwilden: We have lots of pros and cons of why to create material, we should also talk about how to make it effective #ELTchat

rliberni

12:23

@touqo  i suppose it depends on how much control the teacher has over their programme and materials #eltchat (if I understand you right)

LizziePinard

12:23

@Shaunwilden #eltchat and how to measure the effectiveness! :)

Teachersilvert

12:23

creating materials for class makes the lesson more memorable. you can always point to it and the Ss will remember. #eltchat

marcusmurilo

12:23

It's important to think of layout & design when creating materials. This is sth often left to the wayside #eltchat

touqo

12:23

@Shaunwilden how about teachers changing materials and testing it with their own sts, to avoid bias? #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:23

@Shaunwilden personalised, easy to understand (at the level), now also in UK should promote Equality and Diversity #ofsted #eltchat

esolcourses

12:24

@touqo @elawassell @rliberni not sure that's really practical, tbh..  many methods were around before someone put a name to them... #eltchat

theteacherjames

12:24

RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat

rliberni

12:25

TBH I find I create materials for 1 grp thinking I'll use again but gen need 2 adapt so much that it's created again anyhow! #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:25

@marcusmurilo yes and visual appeal/attractiveness #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:26

#eltchat caters for different learning styles and preferences

touqo

12:26

@rliberni yes I was here thinking of the material the teacher _really_ creates from scratch. #eltchat

ljp2010

12:26

#ELTchat So effectiveness - memorable context, high frequency lang relevant to sts' needs for starters.

teacherphili

12:26

Often found greater need to create own mat. on shorter courses with non-homogens learners, often after doing some personalisation #ELTchat

esolcourses

12:26

@touqo @elawassell @rliberni other methods are derived from what came before... AFAIK, copyright only applies to specific works #eltchat

Teachersilvert

12:26

presenting contents you believe in makes your teaching more efficient. It's the case for any speaker anyway. #eltchat

rliberni

12:26

@touqo then this would need to have a purpose & that should be the starting point I think work backwards #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:27

Base resources can be the same, e.g. pictures, quotes, sounds, words. What you do with them changes group to group #eltchat

marcusmurilo

12:27

@sophie_orourke for example a snippet of local culture or sth that CB writers wouldn't possibly know about your Ss #eltchat

rliberni

12:28

RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat YES!

harrisonmike

12:28

@Teachersilvert do you mean that you believe in the value/worth of the material? #eltchat

WarwickLanguage

12:28

RT @rliberni: RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat YES!

teacherphili

12:28

RT @LizziePinard: RT @Shaunwilden: Dont all classes lack homogeneity#eltchat ? I was thinking in terms of nationality/culture #ELTchat

touqo

12:28

@esolcourses I think you're right. Pure methods are hard to "own". Easier when combined with content, maybe? @elawassell @rliberni #eltchat

LauraAustinNow

12:29

RT @rliberni: RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat YES!

theteacherjames

12:29

RT @Teachersilvert: presenting contents you believe in makes your teaching more efficient. It's the case for any speaker anyway. #eltchat

rliberni

12:29

@sophie_orourke  is this like moodle or Macmillan Campus?  haven't used any of these I have my on platform #eltchat

Teachersilvert

12:29

@harrisonmike that's right. since you've made/created/thought about it you put yourself out there. #eltchat

sophie_orourke

12:29

@marcusmurilo design is a key part that contributes to helping engage learners & pubs see this role as crucial - do teachers? #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:30

I think it's important we don't just produce materials based on subjects/content that we like. It's got to be broader in focus #eltchat

esolcourses

12:30

@touqo In a way, yes. I think it's good form to acknowledge & credit sources/inspiration as much as possible @elawassell @rliberni #eltchat

rliberni

12:30

@WarwickLanguage  agree really helps them to think about the topic/point etc.  in order to create super learning exp. #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:30

RT @Teachersilvert: @harrisonmike that's right. since you've made/created/thought about it you put yourself out there. #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:30

@Teachersilvert agree #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:31

@harrisonmike The 'we like' part of that is very imp - too many times the tchr thinks about what they like and not the sts #eltchat

elawassell

12:31

RT @esolcourses: @touqo In a way, yes. I think its good form to acknowledge & credit sources/inspiration as much as possible #ELTchat

sophie_orourke

12:31

@rliberni yes like Moodle - but #pubs are now creating their own #lms's & branding them along with course materials #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:31

@sophie_orourke @marcusmurilo do they? Coursebook pages are too 'busy' from what I've seen #eltchat #publishers

Teachersilvert

12:31

@harrisonmike not necessarily that we like. Surprise, incongruity also work well. Can be any topic really. #eltchat

rliberni

12:31

@LauraAustinNow  sometimes tactile stuff is good too #eltchat

touqo

12:32

@esolcourses it always is! Sometimes difficult here on Twitter. :-) @elawassell @rliberni #eltchat

marcusmurilo

12:33

@sophie_orourke ... think much else matters to them, really! #eltchat

rliberni

12:33

@sophie_orourke  I suspect more work for tchrs more income for them - cynical I know :-( #eltchat

harrisonmike

12?33

@Shaunwilden or just content that the students like. Needs 2 b far broader, inclusive & challenging, of level and of preconceptions #eltchat

teacherphili

12:33

Re: homogeneous - think i chose the wrong word - don't wanna be essentialist.  #ELTchat @Shaunwilden

sophie_orourke

12:33

But true! RT @rliberni: @sophie_orourke  I suspect more work for tchrs more income for them - cynical I know :-( #eltchat

esolcourses

12:33

@touqo don't think it's expected on twitter, but when blogging & creating materials I think it matters - yes @elawassell @rliberni #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:34

@teacherphili #eltchat yeah, i was thinking monolingual classes still arent homogenous! too many big words, pick carefully ;-)

rliberni

12:34

@Shaunwilden  the how is in the design of the programme what is needed how do we present this best imo #eltchat

touqo

12:34

What if teachers made it common practice to acid-test their own materials with students other than their own? #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:34

@teacherphili I wasnt jumping on the word, more that tchers often expect classes to be of X level etc and this is rarely true #eltchat

teacherphili

12:34

@LizziePinard the pitfalls of a fast-moving #ELTchat ;-)

harrisonmike

12:35

@teacherphili @Shaunwilden basic thing to remember: no 2 groups are the same, and no 2 learners are the same #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:35

#eltchat if create own materials, ss need to believe they are as good as whatever CB they are replacing

esolcourses

12:35

RT @harrisonmike: @teacherphili @Shaunwilden basic thing to remember: no 2 groups are the same, and no 2 learners are the same #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:35

RT @harrisonmike: @teacherphili @Shaunwilden basic thing to remember: no 2 groups are the same, and no 2 learners are the same #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:35

RT @harrisonmike: @teacherphili @Shaunwilden basic thing to remember: no 2 groups are the same, and no 2 learners are the same #eltchat

sophie_orourke

12:35

@harrisonmike busy with content or busy with visuals? #eltchat if pages were boring & under designed would students be engaged?

Collaborative

12:35

Edu Minister reduces EU-subsidised projects - EC Audit uncovers mistakes in public procurements http://t.co/oRwwkLos #Eurocall #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:35

@LizziePinard they dont have to replace do they, they might complement, extend etc #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:35

RT @teacherphili: @LizziePinard the pitfalls of a fast-moving #ELTchat ;-)  heheh yup! :-)

rliberni

12:35

@sophie_orourke  fab question - yes in some ways but with language I'm not sure that is wholly possible #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:35

@touqo if anybody wants to trial lesson plans I've written and get back to me, they're more than welcome! #eltchat =)

rliberni

12:35

RT @marcusmurilo: It's important to think of layout & design when creating materials. This is sth often left to the wayside #eltchat

Teachersilvert

12:36

more than creating mats for the sake of it,we build on students's reaction which vary from group to group. That's why it's worth it #eltchat

rliberni

12:36

@marcusmurilo  I agree absolutely!  #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:36

RT @harrisonmike:  if anybody wants to trial lesson plans I've written and get back to me, they're more than welcome! #eltchat =) > Me!

harrisonmike

12:36

@LizziePinard also sts need to be disenfranchised from the idea that coursebook equals the ultimate good #eltchat

marcusmurilo

12:37

@touqo Seems difficult to me. Ts usu have a v. specific reason for creating/adapting sth, which might mean... #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:37

RT @harrisonmike: @LizziePinard also sts need to be disenfranchised from the idea that coursebook equals the ultimate good #eltchat  >agree!

marcusmurilo

12:37

@touqo  it won't work in sb else's class - however well-designed it might have been... #eltchat

eMCDesignLtd

12:37

We often wish #publishers would come to us before manuscripts are written so we can add visual value & thought at the beginning #eltchat

teacherphili

12:37

Indeed, they never have same abilities even in streamed classes but #personalisation maybe wrks better in mixed grps @Shaunwilden #eltchat

Teachersilvert

12:38

it's also about how personal we want our teaching to be. #eltchat

louisealix68

12:38

often quite simply book is not aimed at right age e.g. my class has topics on mortgages - they're young teens. #eltchat

Collaborative

12:38

EU Human Rights court backs whistleblowing http://t.co/aJzgSzIz Contact Auditor Mr. Yiannos ASIMAKIS http://t.co/W2dPHENU #Eurocall #eltchat

rliberni

12:38

RT @harrisonmike: @sophie_orourke @marcusmurilo do they? Coursebook pages are too 'busy' from what I've seen #eltchat #publishers I Agree!

marcusmurilo

12:39

@louisealix68 This is so true! There's often a mismatch between age & topics addressed in CBs. #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:39

@rliberni @harrisonmike @sophie_orourke @marcusmurilo But none says you have to do all that busyness #eltchat

touqo

12:39

RT @marcusmurilo: It's important to think of layout & design when creating materials. This is sth often left to the wayside #eltchat

rliberni

12:39

RT @harrisonmike: @teacherphili @Shaunwilden basic thing to remember: no 2 groups are the same, and no 2 learners are the same #eltchat

Collaborative

12:39

ERIC Database provides 481 hits for Accountability & Language Teaching http://t.co/U3qtoofw #Eurocall #vlang #webheads #eltchat #esol

touqo

12:39

@marcusmurilo U think the relationship with sts is so personal? Might B. I'm thinking of bias and quality of self-created materials #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:40

@LizziePinard this is the first one I posted http://t.co/IeobRPVM =) #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:40

@marcusmurilo @louisealix68 Defending the coursebook 4 the moment - isnt that a case of someone chosing an inappropriate one? #eltchat

rliberni

12:40

@harrisonmike  Agree I think we have to accept that own mast will be ss/grp specific - not a short cut  #eltchat

sophie_orourke

12:40

If CB's are too busy how does this change the role of the author/teacher/editor - who is responsible 4 refining & reducing content? #eltchat

louisealix68

12:41

@Shaunwilden @marcusmurilo Absolutely! #eltchat

Teachersilvert

12:41

the question also is: do we have to create to teach or shall we just pass on the wisdom? #eltchat

marcusmurilo

12:41

@touqo  ur much more likely to use references/images/topics/celebrities ur Ss are familiar with, for example, than CBs ever could #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:41

RT @marcusmurilo: @louisealix68 This is so true! There's often a mismatch between age & topics addressed in CBs. #eltchat

marcusmurilo

12:41

@touqo And what do you mean by bias? #eltchat

theteacherjames

12:41

RT @louisealix68: personalise on topic AND level is best imho #eltchat

rliberni

12:41

@WarwickLanguage  true - before photocopiers etc everything had 2 b created remember it well! endless piles of magazines & leaflets #eltchat

Collaborative

12:42

ICC International Language Network / NGO - Groupthink http://t.co/TEndNvbf #Eurocall #vlang #webheads #eltchat #esol

SueAnnan

12:42

#eltchat hello everyone

marcusmurilo

12:42

@Shaunwilden @louisealix68 Might be! But I swear it wasn't me!! LOL #eltchat

rliberni

12:42

RT @Shaunwilden: @LizziePinard they dont have to replace do they, they might complement, extend etc #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:42

@sophie_orourke well for starters, I have to adapt everything if I'm using a coursebook in a lesson (isn't often nowadays!) #eltchat

rliberni

12:42

RT @harrisonmike: @touqo if anybody wants to trial lesson plans I've written and get back to me, they're more than welcome! #eltchat =)

marcusmurilo

12:43

@Shaunwilden @louisealix68 Anyway, even with good books we all have to plough thru at least one difficult unit... always happens #eltchat

theteacherjames

12:43

RT @harrisonmike: @LizziePinard this is the first one I posted http://t.co/IeobRPVM =) #eltchat

rliberni

12:42

RT @Teachersilvert: it's also about how personal we want our teaching to be. #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:43

@marcusmurilo @louisealix68 Aye you're never going to have one that fits all sts all the time #eltchat

rliberni

12:43

RT @louisealix68: often quite simply book is not aimed at right age e.g. my class has topics on mortgages - they're young teens. #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:43

@Shaunwilden @rliberni @sophie_orourke @marcusmurilo very distracting for learners though. #eltchat

louisealix68

12:43

@Shaunwilden indeed! But teachers build up own repertoire pretty fast #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:43

RT @Shaunwilden: @marcusmurilo @louisealix68 Aye you're never going to have one that fits all sts all the time #eltchat

esolcourses

12:43

Important point to bear in mind if you adapt other people's materials to use in your lessons - don't upload them to the Internet! #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:43

@louisealix68 True but gaps might com up on  a weekly basis as well #eltchat

marcusmurilo

12:44

@Shaunwilden @louisealix68 True, thus the need to create/adapt/rehash materials... ;) #eltchat

rliberni

12:44

@louisealix68  this is very true I often have to reject most of the content so now prefer to create own programme #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:44

@louisealix68 My point was avoiding planning it all out at the beginning, time is needed to react, extend, etc #eltchat

esolcourses

12:44

When you upload materials to the internet, you are sharing them with the world - not just your staffroom and students #eltchat

Teachersilvert

12:44

@esolcourses didn't it read "from scratch" in today's topic? #eltchat :)

harrisonmike

12:44

@sophie_orourke too much on the page. Too many activities. #eltchat

louisealix68

12:44

@rliberni Me too - but am somewhat restricted by pre-set tests ;-( #eltchat

rliberni

12:45

@harrisonmike  I think they try too hard and often (ime) create confusion #eltchat

theteacherjames

12:45

@esolcourses Unless you give full credit and explain the process, I think. #eltchat

sophie_orourke

12:45

If CBs r'nt delivering to needs then there is a fundamental prob! #pubs #educators & #governments need 2 communicate this #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:45

@Shaunwilden @louisealix68 #eltchat  i interpreted it as starting point rather than set in stone from then on!

louisealix68

12:45

@Shaunwilden in an ideal world....but planning 'framework' is essential. Precise details come when know class better #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:46

@louisealix68 Oh yes I agree re franework #eltchat

louisealix68

12:46

@LizziePinard @Shaunwilden me too! #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:46

@esolcourses UNLESS they're tagged creative commons and they respect the license (I know it rarely happens). #eltchat

touqo

12:46

@marcusmurilo the teacher thinking that some material would work "globally", when in reality it is only in that classroom. #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:46

We're wandering into a coursebook #eltchat  rather than a creating  materials one :-) #eltchat

Collaborative

12:46

8yr Empirical Raw Data Scoop for Eurocall > Google Trends: Language Teaching & Learning http://t.co/53z1ux6u #vlang #webheads #eltchat

rliberni

12:46

@louisealix68  teaching to test always restricting (I teach for IELTS) but challenging too to make more creative #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:47

@esolcourses I don't mind mash ups of my own lesson plans or adaptations, as long as they attribute #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:47

@marcusmurilo So teach them why they don;t have to do everything :-) #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:47

#eltchat so what is important to remember when creating own materials?

louisealix68

12:47

@rliberni absolutely. As long as know what final goal is, whether take left or right turn shld be up to teacher/class! #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:47

RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat so what is important to remember when creating own materials?

marcusmurilo

12:47

@touqo I see, but I'd imagine Ts normally design materials for their own context, rather than for a global audience #eltchat

elawassell

12:47

RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat so what is important to remember when creating own materials? #ELTchat

sophie_orourke

12:47

Sorry! RT @shaunwilden: We're wandering into a coursebook #eltchat  rather than a creating  materials one :-) #eltchat

ljp2010

12:47

#ELTchat Anyone got any wonderful examples they'd like to share of materials from scratch then? :-)

Teachersilvert

12:48

@LizziePinard @Shaunwilden worth the time spent? and the impact on Ss' learning. #eltchat

englishbanana

12:48

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Anyone got any wonderful examples they'd like to share of materials from scratch then? :-)

rliberni

12:48

@BrunoELT  I really believe that they should! Like head teachers never being in the c'room get out of touch #eltchat

englishbanana

12:48

RT @harrisonmike: @esolcourses I don't mind mash ups of my own lesson plans or adaptations, as long as they attribute #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:48

RT @Teachersilvert: @LizziePinard @Shaunwilden worth the time spent? and the impact on Ss' learning. #eltchat

louisealix68

12:48

@ljp2010 yep - but then got picked up by publisher so now copywrite #eltchat

esolcourses

12:48

@Teachersilvert yes, it did. Not everybody gets that, unfortunately. Awareness of copyright and plagiarism varies a lot #eltchat

rliberni

12:48

RT @louisealix68: @Shaunwilden indeed! But teachers build up own repertoire pretty fast #eltchat this is also true

marcusmurilo

12:48

@touqo anyway, CBs are full of such examples - as they are targeted at a global market,,, #eltchat

ljp2010

12:48

@louisealix68 :-)  Nice one!  #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

12:49

RT @Teachersilvert: @LizziePinard @Shaunwilden worth the time spent? and the impact on Ss' learning. #eltchat

louisealix68

12:49

Start with aim. Find suitable aural input, back up with text and you're off..... #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:49

@elawassell @LizziePinard accessibility. Clear, not distracting, minimal if possible. #eltchat

teacherphili

12:49

RT @harrisonmike haha!  'mash ups' is a great word for reconstituted lesson plans #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:49

RT @harrisonmike: @elawassell @LizziePinard accessibility. Clear, not distracting, minimal if possible. #eltchat

marcusmurilo

12:49

@Shaunwilden I swear I try, but they seem to thrive on giving me a hard time! :P #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:49

RT @louisealix68: Start with aim. Find suitable aural input, back up with text and you're off..... #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:50

@marcusmurilo lol :-) that's sts for yer :-) #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:50

@ljp2010 would you include plans based on video in that? Or do you mean worksheets etc #eltchat

eMCDesignLtd

12:50

Remember to use readable fonts & sizes! And proof read #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:50

RT @eMCDesignLtd: Remember to use readable fonts & sizes! And proof read #eltchat

touqo

12:50

@marcusmurilo sure! And it's fine as long as the sts learn. Still I think trying out materials in others' classes can't do harm :-) #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:50

RT @eMCDesignLtd: Remember to use readable fonts & sizes! And proof read #eltchat

rliberni

12:50

RT @harrisonmike: @esolcourses UNLESS they're tagged creative commons and they respect the license (I know it rarely happens). #eltchat

rliberni

12:50

RT @Shaunwilden: We're wandering into a coursebook #eltchat  rather than a creating  materials one :-) #eltchat

ljp2010

12:51

#ELTchat Hmm.  Good question.  I often make worksheets connected to exsisting material but hadn't thought of them here @harrisonmike

rliberni

12:51

RT @harrisonmike: @esolcourses I don't mind mash ups of my own lesson plans or adaptations, as long as they attribute #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:51

RT @SueAnnan: @ljp2010 the other week we had to make new material we had to think about what we wanted to achieve #eltchat

esolcourses

12:51

@harrisonmike fine if you don't make all or part of your living from writing, I suppose - unless they are tagged CC, I do mind, tbh #eltchat

rliberni

12:51

So waht kind of materials  have we created that have been successful? #eltchat

teacherphili

12:51

I've previously done a murder mystery game for reading/speaking entirely from scratch, but takes time #ELTchat

LizziePinard

12:51

RT @rliberni: So waht kind of materials  have we created that have been successful? #eltchat

marcusmurilo

12:51

@touqo it certainly can't, true! :) in my school we share act's with other Ts by means of a wiki, which is a nice way of doing this #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:51

RT @rliberni: So what kind of materials  have we created that have been successful? #eltchat

louisealix68

12:51

eg vocab 'flashback/flashforward/reminisching' etc - use bits of film. Then discuss. Then use words in own sentence. #eltchat

eMCDesignLtd

12?:52

Make sure images you use are appropriate for everyone in your classroom #eltchat

ljp2010

12:52

@teacherphili which means you want to get good use (and reuse) out of it  #ELTchat

marcusmurilo

12:52

@touqo Ts can edit each other's work and use them to suit their own Ss' needs #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:52

@ljp2010 @teacherphili But only reuse if appropriate - the materials shouldnt be one size fits all #eltchat

rliberni

12:52

@WarwickLanguage  I still have some worksheets- must get rid but often keep 'just in case' he he #eltchat

touqo

12:53

RT @marcusmurilo: @touqo Ts can edit each other's work and use them to suit their own Ss' needs #eltchat

theteacherjames

12:53

I'm considering the difference between materials & activities, & I'm realising that my lessons are very materials light #nohandouts #eltchat

louisealix68

12:52

Have done 'wild goose chase' around local village. Read + write skills. After 'x' time all return. grp with most right answers wins #eltchat

rliberni

12:53

RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat so what is important to remember when creating own materials?

harrisonmike

12:53

@esolcourses good point. I don't make a living from mine on my blog, so I don't mind there. #eltchat

teacherphili

12:53

@ljp2010 i did - the following week !  Re-used it with different set of students, in similar setting, still got it somewhere #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

12:53

@theteacherjames  materials light eh :-) #eltchat

touqo

12:53

RT @rliberni: So waht kind of materials  have we created that have been successful? #eltchat

PrincipalPC

12:53

Remember that curriculua is what is to be learned - materials (self or publisher-made) support, not drive that process. #eltchat

marcusmurilo

12:53

RT @eMCDesignLtd Make sure images you use are appropriate for everyone in your classroom #eltchat

esolcourses

12:53

@harrisonmike same here with blog posts. I do get annoyed though when ppl plagiarise our lessons, or copy them without permission #eltchat

lexicoloco

12:54

@rliberni @BrunoELT #eltchat Unfair to expect authors to still teach (many do). Like criticizing teachers for not being students any more.

Shaunwilden

12:53

RT @eMCDesignLtd Make sure images you use are appropriate for everyone in your classroom #eltchat - use #eltpics as a source :-)

harrisonmike

12:54

@esolcourses If I know, I always attribute/link where I can, e.g. I'd only ever link my students to esolcourses #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:54

RT @lexicoloco: @rliberni @BrunoELT #eltchat Unfair to expect authors to still teach (many do). Like criticizing teachers for not being students any more.

rliberni

12:54

@LizziePinard  ease of use, look/feel, interest/relevance for ss  #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:54

RT @rliberni: @LizziePinard  ease of use, look/feel, interest/relevance for ss  #eltchat

theteacherjames

12:54

@esolcourses I agree, copying is a big no-no. showing how you've adapted something (without oversharing & with credit), interesting #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:55

Ok 5 minutes left anymore advice for making materials effective? #eltchat

theteacherjames

12:55

@Shaunwilden Yes, and you'll never guess what the language does.... #eltchat

teacherphili

12:55

RT @esolcourses I do get annoyed ...when ppl plagiarise our lessons or copy them without permission.  How do you find out, though? #eltchat

esolcourses

12:55

@harrisonmike cheers Mike, and I think most people take that approach.  #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:55

@theteacherjames snap! No point creating something that is gonna be done in 5 mins #eltchat

rliberni

12:55

@lexicoloco  I disagree, good teachers are students too, they will always be learning #eltchat

marcusmurilo

12:55

@lexicoloco @rliberni @BrunoELT I wish only practicing teachers were allowed to publish! LOL #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:55

@theteacherjames Go on  use the word you've being dying to for ages :-) #eltchat

Teachersilvert

12:55

@rliberni @touqo nothing revolutionary: picking photos and predict how many of them were real or not+poll+share+arguments. #eltchat

SueAnnan

12:56

#eltchat  I like to see my colleagues using my homemade material. You get ideas there too

teacherphili

12:56

RT @Shaunwilden: @theteacherjames Go on  use the word you've being dying to for ages :-) #eltchat   Go on! Go on!

theteacherjames

12:56

@Shaunwilden nope, not budging... #eltchat

CollinsELT

12:56

What's the best example to show the difference btw ‘-ing’ and ‘-ed’ adjectives? I'm boring vs I'm bored? #ELT #ELTchat #EFL #ESL #grammar

elawassell

12:56

@Shaunwilden LOL!!! #ELTchat

sophie_orourke

12:56

Agree RT @rliberni: @lexicoloco  I disagree, good teachers are students too, they will always be learning #eltchat

rliberni

12:56

@marcusmurilo @lexicoloco @BrunoELT  not saying should be full-time just still have a connection with chalk-face #eltchat

rliberni

12:56

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Anyone got any wonderful examples they'd like to share of materials from scratch then? :-)

theteacherjames

12:57

@harrisonmike Yes, and why give a handout when the student can make their own in their notebook? #eltchat

marcusmurilo

12:57

@lexicoloco @rliberni @BrunoELT not sure if unfair 2 expect them 2 still teach; after all, aren't they designing mat's 4 class use? #eltchat

ljp2010

12:57

@theteacherjames  Viva the photocopy free classroom!!!  #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

12:57

RT @ljp2010: @theteacherjames  Viva the photocopy free classroom!!!  #ELTchat

lexicoloco

12:57

@rliberni and good authors, too. Isn't every serious professional continually learning and teaching? #eltchat

harrisonmike

12:57

RT @theteacherjames: @harrisonmike Yes, and why give a handout when the student can make their own in their notebook? #eltchat

marcusmurilo

12:58

@rliberni @lexicoloco @BrunoELT WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE!! :D #eltchat

SimonGreenall

12:58

@rliberni  #eltchat Helllo.! It really is hard to be a full time teacher and a full time writer. I tried it.

harrisonmike

12:58

RT @ljp2010: @theteacherjames  Viva the photocopy free classroom!!!  #ELTchat

theteacherjames

12:58

My advice for anyone amending their coursebook is cut down on the materials, & focus on the activity. Don't recreate the CB! #eltchat

sophie_orourke

12:58

Check out @ELT_T2W where teaches can write & publish #eltchat

theteacherjames

12:69

RT @ljp2010: @theteacherjames  Viva the photocopy free classroom!!!  #ELTchat

esolcourses

12:59

@teacherphili 'secret sauce' anti-plagiarism measures, plus a helping hand from my good friend, Mr Google ;-) #eltchat

rliberni

12:59

@ljp2010  created a role-play for practising conditionals - role cards, scenarios, vocab lists etc.. took  about 10 lessons to do #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:59

As we head towards the end can i ask who would like to do the summary #eltchat

LizziePinard

12:59

RT @LizziePinard: @Shaunwilden I can, if you want....#eltchat

Shaunwilden

13:00

@LizziePinard Super thanks Lizzie we'll get you the transcript at some point today @Marisa_C #eltchat

harrisonmike

13:00

@SimonGreenall @rliberni but guess unless u get a lucrative book deal, u have to stay fulltime teaching #eltchat or get a wealthy partner ;)

touqo

13:00

Thanks for the discussions! Happy I happened to be here at the right time for once! #eltchat

marcusmurilo

13:00

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Anyone got any wonderful examples they'd like to share of materials from scratch then? :-)

LizziePinard

13:00

@Shaunwilden #eltchat cool :) Great discussion today, thanks all! :)

ljp2010

13:01

#ELTchat Yes, thx everyone.  Always a pleasure :-)

theteacherjames

13:01

@marcusmurilo @lexicoloco @rliberni @BrunoELT Teachers are allowed to publish, it's called blogging! #eltchat

LizziePinard

13:01

RT @theteacherjames: @marcusmurilo @lexicoloco @rliberni @BrunoELT Teachers are allowed to publish, it's called blogging! #eltchat

SueAnnan

13:01

#ELTchat  bye all. Have to return to the chalk face :-)

teacherphili

13:01

is it over? can I go for lunch now? #ELTchat

esolcourses

13:01

Thanks for another great #eltchat everyone - catch you later, hopefully :-)

Shaunwilden

13:01

Ok folks that'll do for the first #eltchat today- join at 21BST for How to build rapport and confidence in an ELT class.

elawassell

13:01

RT @theteacherjames: @marcusmurilo @lexicoloco @rliberni @BrunoELT Teachers are allowed to publish, its called blogging! #ELTchat

SimonGreenall

13:01

RT @harrisonmike: @SimonGreenall @rliberni but guess .. >> I lived on nothing for several years before I made any money.  #ELTchat

rliberni

13:01

@SimonGreenall  no  criticism intended just a fam with the c'room which I'm sure you have :-) #eltchat

teacherphili

13:01

What happened to 'Teaching Spelling'?  came third again? #ELTchat

harrisonmike

13:02

@theteacherjames @marcusmurilo @lexicoloco @rliberni @BrunoELT Think Marcus means *only* practising teachers could publish #eltchat ;)

marcusmurilo

13:01

@theteacherjames What I meant was that only practicing Ts should be allowed to design mat's that get into classrooms for Ss to use #eltchat

marcusmurilo

13:01

@theteacherjames but of course I meant it as a joke - or sort of, anyway :P #eltchat

Shaunwilden

13:02

@teacherphili was really close between 2 and 4 it lost by one vote  #eltchat

SimonGreenall

13:02

RT @rliberni: no  criticism intended just a fam with the c'room  #eltchat None taken but it's been a regular qu all my career.

theteacherjames

13:02

@marcusmurilo fair enough, get your point. :-) #eltchat

rliberni

13:02

@BrunoELT @SimonGreenall @harrisonmike  blogging very diff I think & I am not anti CBs I think they are important but simply a tool #eltchat

Shaunwilden

13:02

Right wont be joining tonight as on a plane, time to leave South America and head back to Europe  #eltchat

teacherphili

13:02

@Shaunwilden shame coz don't think it's ever been discussed.  #ELTchat  It's a democratic vote, however.

marcusmurilo

13:03

@theteacherjames @marcusmurilo @lexicoloco @rliberni @BrunoELT Think Marcus means *only* practising teachers could publish #eltchat > YES!

josmodra

13:03

@theteacherjames some of my learners rely on my handout as a record of the lesson. Struggle to make their own notes. #eltchat #spikyprofile

theteacherjames

13:03

@touqo Good to see you here Santtu! #eltchat

rliberni

13:04

@SimonGreenall  I know like th CB debate tbh a cb only as good as the tchr who uses it but fam w/croom will help make it relevant #eltchat

rliberni

13:05

RT @Shaunwilden: Ok 5 minutes left anymore advice for making materials effective? #eltchat

harrisonmike

13:05

@josmodra @theteacherjames v good point #eltchat

theteacherjames

13:05

@josmodra @harrisonmike  I used to give a notetaking lesson at the beginning of the course for this reason. #eltchat

theteacherjames

13:05

RT @Shaunwilden: Ok folks that'll do for the first #eltchat today- join at 21BST for How to build rapport and confidence in an ELT class.

 

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