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theteacherjames
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12:00
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RT @Shaunwilden: Today's #eltchat 'Creating materials from scratch as course book complements, how to make them effective tasks - ready to join in?
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Shaunwilden
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12:00
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Today's #eltchat 'Creating materials from scratch as course book complements, how to make them effective tasks - ready to join in?
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Shaunwilden
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12:01
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Welcome all #eltchat
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ljp2010
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12:01
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#ELTchat Morning everyone! Been a while...
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esolcourses
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12:01
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RT @Shaunwilden: Today's #eltchat 'Creating materials from scratch as course book complements, how to make them effective tasks
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ljp2010
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12:02
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@Shaunwilden Had enough steak yet? #ELTchat
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LizziePinard
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12:02
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#eltchat hi all! :)
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theteacherjames
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12:02
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@Shaunwilden Hi. Where are you today? Still in South America? #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:02
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@ljp2010 Morning Lisa #eltchat
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ljp2010
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12:03
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#ELTchat@theteacherjames Yes, Shaun's been visiting us :-)
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Teachersilvert
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12:03
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hello everyone impatient to discover about the newest topic discussed #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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12:03
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@Shaunwilden @ljp2010 Argentina? #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:03
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#eltchat hi @vickyloras!
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eMCDesignLtd
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12:03
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RT @shaunwilden: Today's #eltchat 'Creating materials from scratch as course book complements, how to make them effective tasks - ready...
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sophie_orourke
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12:03
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RT @shaunwilden: Today's #eltchat 'Creating materials from scratch as course book complements, how to make them effective tasks - ready...
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elawassell
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12:03
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Hello everyone! #ELTchat
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vickyloras
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12:03
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Following #ELTChat until my students arrive - they are a bit late today ; )))
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Shaunwilden
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12:03
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@ljp2010 @theteacherjames Had my last steak here last night, off to the airport stright after #eltchat
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teacherphili
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12:04
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My tweets (if I send any if the next hour) will be #ELTchat related. Oops, there's one right there. #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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12:04
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@ljp2010 Lucky @Shaunwilden1 (and you, of course!) #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:04
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@theteacherjames @ljp2010 yes am in san Isidro in Argentina though last week i was at @ljp2010 school #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:05
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Right then down to business - materials....#eltchat
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esolcourses
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12:05
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@Shaunwilden can do... though creating materials to use instead of course books is more my kind of thing ;-P #ELTChat
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touqo
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12:05
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RT @Shaunwilden: Today's #eltchat 'Creating materials from scratch as course book complements, how to make them effective tasks - ready to join in?
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Shaunwilden
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12:05
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@esolcourses Yes thats true but I would suspect the 'issues' of effectiveness are the same :-) #eltchat
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andyscott55
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12:05
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#eltchat hello?
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LizziePinard
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12:05
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#eltchat how to measure effectiveness?
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esolcourses
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12:06
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@Shaunwilden yes, I'm sure they are... hence the wink ;-) #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:06
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RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat how to measure effectiveness? - good question
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ljp2010
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12:06
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#ELTchat Okay, so I'll start with the obvious - why create them in the 1st place?
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rliberni
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12:06
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HI everyone creating materials - that takes me back!! #eltchat
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esolcourses
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12:06
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@Raquel_EFL cheers, Raquel :-) #eltchat
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Teachersilvert
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12:06
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@ljp2010 creativity I guess, I feel more in control of the lesson. #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:07
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@ljp2010 Well sometimes you might need a task that is more honed to the sts than the cbk #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:07
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@ljp2010 to fit the students, to be creative, if you haven't access to anything else may still b the case in some places #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:07
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RT @Teachersilvert: @ljp2010 creativity I guess, I feel more in control of the lesson. #eltchat
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esolcourses
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12:07
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I think the first question I would ask myself if creating materials to use with a coursebook is what will they add to the activity? #eltchat
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touqo
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12:08
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What do you mean by "from scratch" in this context? Your own stuff or by combining sth e.g. from the web. Thinking of copyrights. #eltchat
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elawassell
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12:08
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What kind of materials can we produce? Where to look for inspiration?
#ELTchat
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ljp2010
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12:08
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#ELTchat + greater relevance/interest to the sts
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Shaunwilden
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12:08
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RT @elawassell: What kind of materials can we produce? Where to look for inspiration?
#ELTchat
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rliberni
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12:08
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RT @elawassell: What kind of materials can we produce? Where to look for inspiration?
#ELTchat
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sophie_orourke
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12:08
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Do people find that their own materials get a better response/reaction from their students than the course books? #eltchat
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teacherphili
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12:08
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@Shaunwilden @ljp2010 'Personalisation' springs to mind. Creating tasks based on actual students & teacher in the room #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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12:08
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RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Okay, so I'll start with the obvious - why create them in the 1st place?
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rliberni
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12:09
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@sophie_orourke good question if they are very focused maybe if they fit into the scheme of things probably #eltchat
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ljp2010
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12:09
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#ELTchat @sophie_orourke Depends on sts! Some say they should use the CB more as they find it "more serious" -direct st fb quote!
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teacherphili
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12:09
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I will suggest creating materials where learners need to be engaged, hence 'personalisation' #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:09
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@teacherphili Wholly agree - I guess then the thing to consider is time to create versus classroom use #eltchat
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Teachersilvert
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12:10
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creating activities yourself makes the lesson more authentic; we can use personal stuff and data related students. #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:10
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@elawassell I think reading and writing exercises are often better produced or adapted #eltchat
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esolcourses
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12:10
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@elawassell @touqo see my guest post on @barbsaka's blog for links to CC & Public domain sources you can use http://t.co/God6y5l8 #eltchat
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elawassell
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12:10
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If we create materials on topics that our Ss are interested in - surely this should help effectiveness.
#ELTchat
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Teachersilvert
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12:10
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I feel that creating materials is what makes me want to be a teacher #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:10
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#eltchat more practical in some situations than others, i'd think
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sophie_orourke
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12:10
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Do you feel that Publishers of course materials give you enough additional scope to create own material based on their content? #eltchat
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esolcourses
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12:11
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RT @elawassell: If we create materials on topics that our Ss are interested in - surely this should help effectiveness. #ELTchat ] agree
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ljp2010
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12:11
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@Teachersilvert More authentic to the language u or 1 use but are we just trusting our instinct. Is that enough? #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:11
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There are some good questions being asked today :-) #eltchat
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andyscott55
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12:11
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#eltchat thats often true sophie - and even more so when the stss make their own!
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theteacherjames
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12:11
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@teacherphili @Shaunwilden @ljp2010 1 of the main problems with CB's is their unavoidably general nature. Adapt to personalise #ELTchat
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Teachersilvert
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12:11
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@sophie_orourke no difficult to adapt to contents you haven't contributed to #eltchat
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elawassell
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12:11
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RT @rliberni: @elawassell I think reading and writing exercises are often better produced or adapted #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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12:11
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@Raquel_EFL @teacherphili Classes with more than one student can have a personality too! #ELTchat
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touqo
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12?12
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Reusing some existing methods & best practices might be easier than materials re:copyright questions. #eltchat
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LauraAustinNow
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12:12
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#ELTchat where do you draw the line between creating great content for your students and merely replicating what a publisher has created?
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rliberni
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12:12
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@sophie_orourke many cbs today seem to have thought of most things with lost of add-ons #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:12
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@touqo What do you mean by methods and practices? #eltchat
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esolcourses
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12:12
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@elawassell materials need to be underpinned by pedagogy though I'd say, to ensure learning needs are met, as well as having fun :) #ELTChat
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elawassell
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12:12
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RT @theteacherjames: 1 of the main problems with CBs is their unavoidably general nature. Adapt to personalise #ELTchat
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LauraAustinNow
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12:12
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@elawassell: If we create materials on topics Ss are interested in - surely this should help effectiveness. #ELTchat > if you get it right
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theteacherjames
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12:12
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@Teachersilvert Then you should be a coursebook writer! #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:13
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Creating games, role-plays and other speaking activities can be a great way to personalise your content , not always in cbs #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:13
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@LauraAustinNow Hi Laura, what do you mean by replicate? #eltchat
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vickyloras
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12:13
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RT @elawassell: RT @theteacherjames: 1 of the main problems with CBs is their unavoidably general nature. Adapt to personalise #ELTchat
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sophie_orourke
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12:13
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Have digital products and resources #LMS's helped to make personalisation easier? Or r they still missing the point? #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:13
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RT @ljp2010: @Teachersilvert More authentic to the language u or 1 use but are we just trusting our instinct. Is that enough? #ELTchat
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elawassell
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12:13
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RT@esolcourses: materials need to be underpinned by pedagogy though Id say, to ensure learning needs are met, as well as having fun #ELTchat
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Teachersilvert
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12:13
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@theteacherjames I enjoy teaching the most actually. I feel like bringing my homemade cake to the party.A bit of pride maybe #eltchat
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LauraAustinNow
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12:13
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@Shaunwilden creating content which might exist in a similar format in a course book somewhere … #ELTchat
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rliberni
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12:14
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Also gets over the problem of out of date stuff in CBs (can happen fast) #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:14
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@LauraAustinNow Aha, but then how is the teacher to know it might exist somewhere :-) #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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12:14
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@sophie_orourke Definitely not. Far too prescriptive and general for my tastes. #eltchat
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elawassell
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12:14
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RT @rliberni: Creating games, role-plays and other speaking activities can be a great way to personalise your content (...) #ELTchat
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esolcourses
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12:14
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RT @rliberni: Also gets over the problem of out of date stuff in CBs (can happen fast) #eltchat ] good point - & irrelevant stuff as well
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ljp2010
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12:14
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Sts often find semi-authentic listenings memorable for the lang they feel they don't get from the CB #ELTchat
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rliberni
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12:14
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RT @touqo: Reusing some existing methods & best practices might be easier than materials re:copyright questions. #eltchat
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sophie_orourke
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12:15
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#eltchat of course! RT @shaunwilden: @LauraAustinNow Aha, but then how is the teacher to know it might exist somewhere :-) #eltchat
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teacherphili
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12:15
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RT @elawassell: RT @theteacherjames: That's where personalisation before using CB can help where CB is a requirement #ELTchat
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LizziePinard
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12:15
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#eltchat the more you do it, the more of a bank of resources you build up and if colleagues do too, bingo tons of resources!
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touqo
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12:15
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@Shaunwilden e.g. a specific way to teach a topic the teacher has found useful. Share this info with others. #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:15
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@touqo it does certainly get around copyright issues esp. with online content - good point #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:15
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@LauraAustinNow Well yes but quite simply the tchr will never know whats in all books :-) #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:15
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RT @LauraAustinNow: #ELTchat where do you draw the line between creating great content for your students and merely replicating what a publisher has created?
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theteacherjames
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12:15
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@LauraAustinNow If you're merely recreating publishers content you should be asking yourself why you're producing in the 1st place .#ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:15
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RT @touqo: @Shaunwilden e.g. a specific way to teach a topic the teacher has found useful. Share this info with others. #eltchat
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LauraAustinNow
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12:15
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@Shaunwilden Ahha! Need a global directory of existing content ;) #ELTchat (just pains to see so much work repeated)
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rliberni
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12:16
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RT @LauraAustinNow: @elawassell: If we create materials on topics Ss are interested in - surely this should help effectiveness. #ELTchat > if you get it right
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esolcourses
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12:16
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@LauraAustinNow @Shaunwilden I'm not one for re-inventing the wheel myself, but not sure if overlap really matters that much, tbh #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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12:16
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@Teachersilvert Completely agree. Proud of the lessons I'm able to come up, free of a CB! #eltchat
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LauraAustinNow
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12:16
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@theteacherjames true. Tho it does happen. Have seen it many a time. #ELTchat
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elawassell
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12:16
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RT @rliberni: @touqo it does certainly get around copyright issues esp. with online content - good point << is credits enough? #ELTchat
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touqo
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12:17
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@rliberni thanks! Of course it is often difficult to separate method from the content. #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:17
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@esolcourses @marcusmurilo Yea agree with both of you on personalization and overlap s/times good #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:17
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@sophie_orourke can you give examples of the digital products you are thinking about? #eltchat
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Teachersilvert
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12:17
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RT @theteacherjames: @Teachersilvert Completely agree. Proud of the lessons I'm able to come up, free of a CB! #eltchat yes!
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esolcourses
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12:17
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@LauraAustinNow @Shaunwilden no two writers are likely to approach the same topic in the same way, I would have thought #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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12:17
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@sophie_orourke I do think it's possible, but I haven't seen one yet. (don't forget the #eltchat hashatag!)
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marcusmurilo
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12:18
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I think u can recreate publishers' content in a way that looks appealing & meaningful to ur Ss. don't see how that could be wrong. #eltchat
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marynabadenhors
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12:18
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Teachers are not publishers, so instead of creating content for the kids, give them some resources and have them cre8 their own #ELTChat
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LauraAustinNow
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12:18
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Guess adv. of creating extra content for IWB is it can be re-imagined for each set of students. Less re-working than traditionally #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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12:18
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@LauraAustinNow I did it myself once, but then realised it was a complete waste of time & changed my path. #ELTchat
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rliberni
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12:18
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RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat the more you do it, the more of a bank of resources you build up and if colleagues do too, bingo tons of resources!
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theteacherjames
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12:18
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@ljp2010 Always, always for the sts. (don't forget the #eltchat hashtag!)
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theteacherjames
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12:18
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RT @ljp2010: @theteacherjames True, but we're doing it for the sts, right? #eltchat
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Teachersilvert
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12?19
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RT @marynabadenhors: give them some resources and have them cre8 their own #ELTChat=>show them first how to maybe. The best test in class
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ljp2010
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12:19
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@theteacherjames Mustn't lose sight of that ;-) And yes, must remember the hashtag - thx! #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:19
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Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:19
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RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:20
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@LauraAustinNow why IWB in particular? #eltchat
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danielshiro
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12:20
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@Shaunwilden how beneficial is having a different author write the teacher's guide for a coursebook? Drawbacks? #eltchat
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esolcourses
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12:20
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@Teachersilvert @marynabadenhors or learn how to use the resources together, perhaps? Like that approch myself #eltchat
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elawassell
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12:20
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RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #ELTchat
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sophie_orourke
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12:20
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@rliberni eg #gloabl Cambridge LMS #eltchat http://t.co/7XUUhST4
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Teachersilvert
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12:20
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RT @esolcourses: @Teachersilvert @marynabadenhors or learn how to use the resources together, perhaps? Like that approch myself #eltchat yes
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esolcourses
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12:20
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RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat ] and produce mats for other groups of s's
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LauraAustinNow
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12:21
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@harrisonmike well, as an example more than anything. Compared with old-school cutting out pieces for matching ex. #eltchat
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touqo
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12:21
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@elawassell should it be up to the 1 who invents the method? Whether to cc it, sell, share without any restrictions, etc. @rliberni #eltchat
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touqo
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12:21
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RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:21
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RT @esolcourses: RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat ] and produce mats for other groups of s's
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ljp2010
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12:22
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#ELTchat But if we as teachers have trouble create effective materials, will our sts be able to? Agree it's good practice & fun..
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theteacherjames
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12:22
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@sophie_orourke @shaunwilden @LauraAustinNow That's why teachers should blog & share their ideas & materials. #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:22
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@LizziePinard that echos the plenary at IATEF - stop re-inventing the wheel http://t.co/BpA8Fb95 #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:22
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We have lots of pros and cons of why to create material, we should also talk about how to make it effective #eltchat
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elawassell
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12:22
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RT @theteacherjames: @sophie_orourke @shaunwilden @LauraAustinNow Thats why teachers should blog & share their ideas & materials. #ELTchat
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teacherphili
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12:22
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RT @theteacherjames: "Adapt to personalise" Something by Rose Senior on Personalisation in ETP http://t.co/8R8nXf8U #ELTchat
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sophie_orourke
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12:23
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Has the role of teacher become more of an aggregator of content that already exists rather than creating new themselves? #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:23
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RT @rliberni: @LizziePinard that echos the plenary at IATEF - stop re-inventing the wheel http://t.co/BpA8Fb95 #eltchat
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LauraAustinNow
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12:23
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.@Shaunwilden yes. Measurement of goals achieved? #ELTchat
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elawassell
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12:23
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RT @Shaunwilden: We have lots of pros and cons of why to create material, we should also talk about how to make it effective #ELTchat
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rliberni
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12:23
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@touqo i suppose it depends on how much control the teacher has over their programme and materials #eltchat (if I understand you right)
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LizziePinard
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12:23
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@Shaunwilden #eltchat and how to measure the effectiveness! :)
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Teachersilvert
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12:23
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creating materials for class makes the lesson more memorable. you can always point to it and the Ss will remember. #eltchat
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marcusmurilo
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12:23
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It's important to think of layout & design when creating materials. This is sth often left to the wayside #eltchat
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touqo
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12:23
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@Shaunwilden how about teachers changing materials and testing it with their own sts, to avoid bias? #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:23
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@Shaunwilden personalised, easy to understand (at the level), now also in UK should promote Equality and Diversity #ofsted #eltchat
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esolcourses
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12:24
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@touqo @elawassell @rliberni not sure that's really practical, tbh.. many methods were around before someone put a name to them... #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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12:24
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RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:25
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TBH I find I create materials for 1 grp thinking I'll use again but gen need 2 adapt so much that it's created again anyhow! #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:25
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@marcusmurilo yes and visual appeal/attractiveness #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:26
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#eltchat caters for different learning styles and preferences
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touqo
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12:26
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@rliberni yes I was here thinking of the material the teacher _really_ creates from scratch. #eltchat
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ljp2010
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12:26
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#ELTchat So effectiveness - memorable context, high frequency lang relevant to sts' needs for starters.
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teacherphili
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12:26
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Often found greater need to create own mat. on shorter courses with non-homogens learners, often after doing some personalisation #ELTchat
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esolcourses
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12:26
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@touqo @elawassell @rliberni other methods are derived from what came before... AFAIK, copyright only applies to specific works #eltchat
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Teachersilvert
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12:26
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presenting contents you believe in makes your teaching more efficient. It's the case for any speaker anyway. #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:26
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@touqo then this would need to have a purpose & that should be the starting point I think work backwards #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:27
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Base resources can be the same, e.g. pictures, quotes, sounds, words. What you do with them changes group to group #eltchat
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marcusmurilo
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12:27
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@sophie_orourke for example a snippet of local culture or sth that CB writers wouldn't possibly know about your Ss #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:28
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RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat YES!
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harrisonmike
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12:28
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@Teachersilvert do you mean that you believe in the value/worth of the material? #eltchat
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WarwickLanguage
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12:28
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RT @rliberni: RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat YES!
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teacherphili
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12:28
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RT @LizziePinard: RT @Shaunwilden: Dont all classes lack homogeneity#eltchat ? I was thinking in terms of nationality/culture #ELTchat
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touqo
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12:28
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@esolcourses I think you're right. Pure methods are hard to "own". Easier when combined with content, maybe? @elawassell @rliberni #eltchat
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LauraAustinNow
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12:29
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RT @rliberni: RT @Shaunwilden: Getting sts to create material for each other should also be considered #eltchat YES!
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theteacherjames
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12:29
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RT @Teachersilvert: presenting contents you believe in makes your teaching more efficient. It's the case for any speaker anyway. #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:29
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@sophie_orourke is this like moodle or Macmillan Campus? haven't used any of these I have my on platform #eltchat
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Teachersilvert
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12:29
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@harrisonmike that's right. since you've made/created/thought about it you put yourself out there. #eltchat
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sophie_orourke
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12:29
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@marcusmurilo design is a key part that contributes to helping engage learners & pubs see this role as crucial - do teachers? #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:30
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I think it's important we don't just produce materials based on subjects/content that we like. It's got to be broader in focus #eltchat
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esolcourses
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12:30
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@touqo In a way, yes. I think it's good form to acknowledge & credit sources/inspiration as much as possible @elawassell @rliberni #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:30
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@WarwickLanguage agree really helps them to think about the topic/point etc. in order to create super learning exp. #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:30
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RT @Teachersilvert: @harrisonmike that's right. since you've made/created/thought about it you put yourself out there. #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:30
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@Teachersilvert agree #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:31
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@harrisonmike The 'we like' part of that is very imp - too many times the tchr thinks about what they like and not the sts #eltchat
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elawassell
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12:31
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RT @esolcourses: @touqo In a way, yes. I think its good form to acknowledge & credit sources/inspiration as much as possible #ELTchat
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sophie_orourke
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12:31
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@rliberni yes like Moodle - but #pubs are now creating their own #lms's & branding them along with course materials #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:31
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@sophie_orourke @marcusmurilo do they? Coursebook pages are too 'busy' from what I've seen #eltchat #publishers
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Teachersilvert
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12:31
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@harrisonmike not necessarily that we like. Surprise, incongruity also work well. Can be any topic really. #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:31
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@LauraAustinNow sometimes tactile stuff is good too #eltchat
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touqo
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12:32
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@esolcourses it always is! Sometimes difficult here on Twitter. :-) @elawassell @rliberni #eltchat
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marcusmurilo
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12:33
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@sophie_orourke ... think much else matters to them, really! #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:33
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@sophie_orourke I suspect more work for tchrs more income for them - cynical I know :-( #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12?33
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@Shaunwilden or just content that the students like. Needs 2 b far broader, inclusive & challenging, of level and of preconceptions #eltchat
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teacherphili
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12:33
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Re: homogeneous - think i chose the wrong word - don't wanna be essentialist. #ELTchat @Shaunwilden
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sophie_orourke
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12:33
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But true! RT @rliberni: @sophie_orourke I suspect more work for tchrs more income for them - cynical I know :-( #eltchat
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esolcourses
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12:33
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@touqo don't think it's expected on twitter, but when blogging & creating materials I think it matters - yes @elawassell @rliberni #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:34
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@teacherphili #eltchat yeah, i was thinking monolingual classes still arent homogenous! too many big words, pick carefully ;-)
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rliberni
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12:34
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@Shaunwilden the how is in the design of the programme what is needed how do we present this best imo #eltchat
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touqo
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12:34
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What if teachers made it common practice to acid-test their own materials with students other than their own? #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:34
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@teacherphili I wasnt jumping on the word, more that tchers often expect classes to be of X level etc and this is rarely true #eltchat
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teacherphili
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12:34
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@LizziePinard the pitfalls of a fast-moving #ELTchat ;-)
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harrisonmike
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12:35
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@teacherphili @Shaunwilden basic thing to remember: no 2 groups are the same, and no 2 learners are the same #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:35
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#eltchat if create own materials, ss need to believe they are as good as whatever CB they are replacing
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esolcourses
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12:35
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RT @harrisonmike: @teacherphili @Shaunwilden basic thing to remember: no 2 groups are the same, and no 2 learners are the same #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:35
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RT @harrisonmike: @teacherphili @Shaunwilden basic thing to remember: no 2 groups are the same, and no 2 learners are the same #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:35
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RT @harrisonmike: @teacherphili @Shaunwilden basic thing to remember: no 2 groups are the same, and no 2 learners are the same #eltchat
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sophie_orourke
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12:35
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@harrisonmike busy with content or busy with visuals? #eltchat if pages were boring & under designed would students be engaged?
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Collaborative
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12:35
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Edu Minister reduces EU-subsidised projects - EC Audit uncovers mistakes in public procurements http://t.co/oRwwkLos #Eurocall #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:35
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@LizziePinard they dont have to replace do they, they might complement, extend etc #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:35
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RT @teacherphili: @LizziePinard the pitfalls of a fast-moving #ELTchat ;-) heheh yup! :-)
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rliberni
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12:35
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@sophie_orourke fab question - yes in some ways but with language I'm not sure that is wholly possible #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:35
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@touqo if anybody wants to trial lesson plans I've written and get back to me, they're more than welcome! #eltchat =)
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rliberni
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12:35
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RT @marcusmurilo: It's important to think of layout & design when creating materials. This is sth often left to the wayside #eltchat
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Teachersilvert
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12:36
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more than creating mats for the sake of it,we build on students's reaction which vary from group to group. That's why it's worth it #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:36
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@marcusmurilo I agree absolutely! #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:36
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RT @harrisonmike: if anybody wants to trial lesson plans I've written and get back to me, they're more than welcome! #eltchat =) > Me!
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harrisonmike
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12:36
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@LizziePinard also sts need to be disenfranchised from the idea that coursebook equals the ultimate good #eltchat
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marcusmurilo
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12:37
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@touqo Seems difficult to me. Ts usu have a v. specific reason for creating/adapting sth, which might mean... #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:37
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RT @harrisonmike: @LizziePinard also sts need to be disenfranchised from the idea that coursebook equals the ultimate good #eltchat >agree!
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marcusmurilo
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12:37
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@touqo it won't work in sb else's class - however well-designed it might have been... #eltchat
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eMCDesignLtd
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12:37
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We often wish #publishers would come to us before manuscripts are written so we can add visual value & thought at the beginning #eltchat
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teacherphili
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12:37
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Indeed, they never have same abilities even in streamed classes but #personalisation maybe wrks better in mixed grps @Shaunwilden #eltchat
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Teachersilvert
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12:38
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it's also about how personal we want our teaching to be. #eltchat
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louisealix68
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12:38
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often quite simply book is not aimed at right age e.g. my class has topics on mortgages - they're young teens. #eltchat
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Collaborative
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12:38
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EU Human Rights court backs whistleblowing http://t.co/aJzgSzIz Contact Auditor Mr. Yiannos ASIMAKIS http://t.co/W2dPHENU #Eurocall #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:38
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RT @harrisonmike: @sophie_orourke @marcusmurilo do they? Coursebook pages are too 'busy' from what I've seen #eltchat #publishers I Agree!
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marcusmurilo
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12:39
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@louisealix68 This is so true! There's often a mismatch between age & topics addressed in CBs. #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:39
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@rliberni @harrisonmike @sophie_orourke @marcusmurilo But none says you have to do all that busyness #eltchat
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touqo
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12:39
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RT @marcusmurilo: It's important to think of layout & design when creating materials. This is sth often left to the wayside #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:39
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RT @harrisonmike: @teacherphili @Shaunwilden basic thing to remember: no 2 groups are the same, and no 2 learners are the same #eltchat
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Collaborative
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12:39
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ERIC Database provides 481 hits for Accountability & Language Teaching http://t.co/U3qtoofw #Eurocall #vlang #webheads #eltchat #esol
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touqo
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12:39
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@marcusmurilo U think the relationship with sts is so personal? Might B. I'm thinking of bias and quality of self-created materials #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:40
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@LizziePinard this is the first one I posted http://t.co/IeobRPVM =) #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:40
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@marcusmurilo @louisealix68 Defending the coursebook 4 the moment - isnt that a case of someone chosing an inappropriate one? #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:40
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@harrisonmike Agree I think we have to accept that own mast will be ss/grp specific - not a short cut #eltchat
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sophie_orourke
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12:40
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If CB's are too busy how does this change the role of the author/teacher/editor - who is responsible 4 refining & reducing content? #eltchat
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louisealix68
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12:41
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@Shaunwilden @marcusmurilo Absolutely! #eltchat
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Teachersilvert
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12:41
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the question also is: do we have to create to teach or shall we just pass on the wisdom? #eltchat
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marcusmurilo
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12:41
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@touqo ur much more likely to use references/images/topics/celebrities ur Ss are familiar with, for example, than CBs ever could #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:41
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RT @marcusmurilo: @louisealix68 This is so true! There's often a mismatch between age & topics addressed in CBs. #eltchat
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marcusmurilo
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12:41
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@touqo And what do you mean by bias? #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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12:41
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RT @louisealix68: personalise on topic AND level is best imho #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:41
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@WarwickLanguage true - before photocopiers etc everything had 2 b created remember it well! endless piles of magazines & leaflets #eltchat
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Collaborative
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12:42
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ICC International Language Network / NGO - Groupthink http://t.co/TEndNvbf #Eurocall #vlang #webheads #eltchat #esol
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SueAnnan
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12:42
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#eltchat hello everyone
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marcusmurilo
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12:42
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@Shaunwilden @louisealix68 Might be! But I swear it wasn't me!! LOL #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:42
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RT @Shaunwilden: @LizziePinard they dont have to replace do they, they might complement, extend etc #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:42
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@sophie_orourke well for starters, I have to adapt everything if I'm using a coursebook in a lesson (isn't often nowadays!) #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:42
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RT @harrisonmike: @touqo if anybody wants to trial lesson plans I've written and get back to me, they're more than welcome! #eltchat =)
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marcusmurilo
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12:43
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@Shaunwilden @louisealix68 Anyway, even with good books we all have to plough thru at least one difficult unit... always happens #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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12:43
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RT @harrisonmike: @LizziePinard this is the first one I posted http://t.co/IeobRPVM =) #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:42
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RT @Teachersilvert: it's also about how personal we want our teaching to be. #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:43
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@marcusmurilo @louisealix68 Aye you're never going to have one that fits all sts all the time #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:43
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RT @louisealix68: often quite simply book is not aimed at right age e.g. my class has topics on mortgages - they're young teens. #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:43
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@Shaunwilden @rliberni @sophie_orourke @marcusmurilo very distracting for learners though. #eltchat
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louisealix68
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12:43
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@Shaunwilden indeed! But teachers build up own repertoire pretty fast #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:43
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RT @Shaunwilden: @marcusmurilo @louisealix68 Aye you're never going to have one that fits all sts all the time #eltchat
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esolcourses
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12:43
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Important point to bear in mind if you adapt other people's materials to use in your lessons - don't upload them to the Internet! #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:43
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@louisealix68 True but gaps might com up on a weekly basis as well #eltchat
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marcusmurilo
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12:44
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@Shaunwilden @louisealix68 True, thus the need to create/adapt/rehash materials... ;) #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:44
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@louisealix68 this is very true I often have to reject most of the content so now prefer to create own programme #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:44
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@louisealix68 My point was avoiding planning it all out at the beginning, time is needed to react, extend, etc #eltchat
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esolcourses
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12:44
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When you upload materials to the internet, you are sharing them with the world - not just your staffroom and students #eltchat
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Teachersilvert
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12:44
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@esolcourses didn't it read "from scratch" in today's topic? #eltchat :)
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harrisonmike
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12:44
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@sophie_orourke too much on the page. Too many activities. #eltchat
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louisealix68
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12:44
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@rliberni Me too - but am somewhat restricted by pre-set tests ;-( #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:45
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@harrisonmike I think they try too hard and often (ime) create confusion #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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12:45
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@esolcourses Unless you give full credit and explain the process, I think. #eltchat
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sophie_orourke
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12:45
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If CBs r'nt delivering to needs then there is a fundamental prob! #pubs #educators & #governments need 2 communicate this #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:45
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@Shaunwilden @louisealix68 #eltchat i interpreted it as starting point rather than set in stone from then on!
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louisealix68
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12:45
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@Shaunwilden in an ideal world....but planning 'framework' is essential. Precise details come when know class better #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:46
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@louisealix68 Oh yes I agree re franework #eltchat
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louisealix68
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12:46
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@LizziePinard @Shaunwilden me too! #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:46
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@esolcourses UNLESS they're tagged creative commons and they respect the license (I know it rarely happens). #eltchat
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touqo
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12:46
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@marcusmurilo the teacher thinking that some material would work "globally", when in reality it is only in that classroom. #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:46
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We're wandering into a coursebook #eltchat rather than a creating materials one :-) #eltchat
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Collaborative
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12:46
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8yr Empirical Raw Data Scoop for Eurocall > Google Trends: Language Teaching & Learning http://t.co/53z1ux6u #vlang #webheads #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:46
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@louisealix68 teaching to test always restricting (I teach for IELTS) but challenging too to make more creative #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:47
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@esolcourses I don't mind mash ups of my own lesson plans or adaptations, as long as they attribute #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:47
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@marcusmurilo So teach them why they don;t have to do everything :-) #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:47
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#eltchat so what is important to remember when creating own materials?
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louisealix68
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12:47
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@rliberni absolutely. As long as know what final goal is, whether take left or right turn shld be up to teacher/class! #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:47
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RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat so what is important to remember when creating own materials?
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marcusmurilo
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12:47
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@touqo I see, but I'd imagine Ts normally design materials for their own context, rather than for a global audience #eltchat
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elawassell
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12:47
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RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat so what is important to remember when creating own materials? #ELTchat
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sophie_orourke
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12:47
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Sorry! RT @shaunwilden: We're wandering into a coursebook #eltchat rather than a creating materials one :-) #eltchat
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ljp2010
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12:47
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#ELTchat Anyone got any wonderful examples they'd like to share of materials from scratch then? :-)
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Teachersilvert
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12:48
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@LizziePinard @Shaunwilden worth the time spent? and the impact on Ss' learning. #eltchat
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englishbanana
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12:48
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RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Anyone got any wonderful examples they'd like to share of materials from scratch then? :-)
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rliberni
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12:48
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@BrunoELT I really believe that they should! Like head teachers never being in the c'room get out of touch #eltchat
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englishbanana
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12:48
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RT @harrisonmike: @esolcourses I don't mind mash ups of my own lesson plans or adaptations, as long as they attribute #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:48
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RT @Teachersilvert: @LizziePinard @Shaunwilden worth the time spent? and the impact on Ss' learning. #eltchat
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louisealix68
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12:48
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@ljp2010 yep - but then got picked up by publisher so now copywrite #eltchat
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esolcourses
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12:48
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@Teachersilvert yes, it did. Not everybody gets that, unfortunately. Awareness of copyright and plagiarism varies a lot #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:48
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RT @louisealix68: @Shaunwilden indeed! But teachers build up own repertoire pretty fast #eltchat this is also true
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marcusmurilo
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12:48
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@touqo anyway, CBs are full of such examples - as they are targeted at a global market,,, #eltchat
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ljp2010
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12:48
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@louisealix68 :-) Nice one! #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:49
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RT @Teachersilvert: @LizziePinard @Shaunwilden worth the time spent? and the impact on Ss' learning. #eltchat
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louisealix68
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12:49
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Start with aim. Find suitable aural input, back up with text and you're off..... #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:49
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@elawassell @LizziePinard accessibility. Clear, not distracting, minimal if possible. #eltchat
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teacherphili
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12:49
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RT @harrisonmike haha! 'mash ups' is a great word for reconstituted lesson plans #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:49
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RT @harrisonmike: @elawassell @LizziePinard accessibility. Clear, not distracting, minimal if possible. #eltchat
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marcusmurilo
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12:49
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@Shaunwilden I swear I try, but they seem to thrive on giving me a hard time! :P #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:49
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RT @louisealix68: Start with aim. Find suitable aural input, back up with text and you're off..... #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:50
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@marcusmurilo lol :-) that's sts for yer :-) #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:50
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@ljp2010 would you include plans based on video in that? Or do you mean worksheets etc #eltchat
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eMCDesignLtd
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12:50
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Remember to use readable fonts & sizes! And proof read #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:50
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RT @eMCDesignLtd: Remember to use readable fonts & sizes! And proof read #eltchat
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touqo
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12:50
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@marcusmurilo sure! And it's fine as long as the sts learn. Still I think trying out materials in others' classes can't do harm :-) #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:50
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RT @eMCDesignLtd: Remember to use readable fonts & sizes! And proof read #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:50
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RT @harrisonmike: @esolcourses UNLESS they're tagged creative commons and they respect the license (I know it rarely happens). #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:50
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RT @Shaunwilden: We're wandering into a coursebook #eltchat rather than a creating materials one :-) #eltchat
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ljp2010
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12:51
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#ELTchat Hmm. Good question. I often make worksheets connected to exsisting material but hadn't thought of them here @harrisonmike
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rliberni
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12:51
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RT @harrisonmike: @esolcourses I don't mind mash ups of my own lesson plans or adaptations, as long as they attribute #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:51
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RT @SueAnnan: @ljp2010 the other week we had to make new material we had to think about what we wanted to achieve #eltchat
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esolcourses
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12:51
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@harrisonmike fine if you don't make all or part of your living from writing, I suppose - unless they are tagged CC, I do mind, tbh #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:51
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So waht kind of materials have we created that have been successful? #eltchat
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teacherphili
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12:51
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I've previously done a murder mystery game for reading/speaking entirely from scratch, but takes time #ELTchat
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LizziePinard
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12:51
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RT @rliberni: So waht kind of materials have we created that have been successful? #eltchat
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marcusmurilo
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12:51
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@touqo it certainly can't, true! :) in my school we share act's with other Ts by means of a wiki, which is a nice way of doing this #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:51
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RT @rliberni: So what kind of materials have we created that have been successful? #eltchat
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louisealix68
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12:51
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eg vocab 'flashback/flashforward/reminisching' etc - use bits of film. Then discuss. Then use words in own sentence. #eltchat
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eMCDesignLtd
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12?:52
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Make sure images you use are appropriate for everyone in your classroom #eltchat
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ljp2010
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12:52
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@teacherphili which means you want to get good use (and reuse) out of it #ELTchat
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marcusmurilo
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12:52
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@touqo Ts can edit each other's work and use them to suit their own Ss' needs #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:52
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@ljp2010 @teacherphili But only reuse if appropriate - the materials shouldnt be one size fits all #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:52
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@WarwickLanguage I still have some worksheets- must get rid but often keep 'just in case' he he #eltchat
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touqo
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12:53
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RT @marcusmurilo: @touqo Ts can edit each other's work and use them to suit their own Ss' needs #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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12:53
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I'm considering the difference between materials & activities, & I'm realising that my lessons are very materials light #nohandouts #eltchat
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louisealix68
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12:52
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Have done 'wild goose chase' around local village. Read + write skills. After 'x' time all return. grp with most right answers wins #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:53
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RT @LizziePinard: #eltchat so what is important to remember when creating own materials?
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harrisonmike
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12:53
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@esolcourses good point. I don't make a living from mine on my blog, so I don't mind there. #eltchat
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teacherphili
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12:53
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@ljp2010 i did - the following week ! Re-used it with different set of students, in similar setting, still got it somewhere #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:53
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@theteacherjames materials light eh :-) #eltchat
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touqo
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12:53
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RT @rliberni: So waht kind of materials have we created that have been successful? #eltchat
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PrincipalPC
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12:53
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Remember that curriculua is what is to be learned - materials (self or publisher-made) support, not drive that process. #eltchat
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marcusmurilo
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12:53
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RT @eMCDesignLtd Make sure images you use are appropriate for everyone in your classroom #eltchat
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esolcourses
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12:53
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@harrisonmike same here with blog posts. I do get annoyed though when ppl plagiarise our lessons, or copy them without permission #eltchat
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lexicoloco
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12:54
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@rliberni @BrunoELT #eltchat Unfair to expect authors to still teach (many do). Like criticizing teachers for not being students any more.
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Shaunwilden
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12:53
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RT @eMCDesignLtd Make sure images you use are appropriate for everyone in your classroom #eltchat - use #eltpics as a source :-)
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harrisonmike
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12:54
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@esolcourses If I know, I always attribute/link where I can, e.g. I'd only ever link my students to esolcourses #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:54
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RT @lexicoloco: @rliberni @BrunoELT #eltchat Unfair to expect authors to still teach (many do). Like criticizing teachers for not being students any more.
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rliberni
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12:54
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@LizziePinard ease of use, look/feel, interest/relevance for ss #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:54
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RT @rliberni: @LizziePinard ease of use, look/feel, interest/relevance for ss #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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12:54
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@esolcourses I agree, copying is a big no-no. showing how you've adapted something (without oversharing & with credit), interesting #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:55
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Ok 5 minutes left anymore advice for making materials effective? #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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12:55
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@Shaunwilden Yes, and you'll never guess what the language does.... #eltchat
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teacherphili
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12:55
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RT @esolcourses I do get annoyed ...when ppl plagiarise our lessons or copy them without permission. How do you find out, though? #eltchat
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esolcourses
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12:55
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@harrisonmike cheers Mike, and I think most people take that approach. #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:55
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@theteacherjames snap! No point creating something that is gonna be done in 5 mins #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:55
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@lexicoloco I disagree, good teachers are students too, they will always be learning #eltchat
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marcusmurilo
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12:55
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@lexicoloco @rliberni @BrunoELT I wish only practicing teachers were allowed to publish! LOL #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:55
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@theteacherjames Go on use the word you've being dying to for ages :-) #eltchat
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Teachersilvert
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12:55
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@rliberni @touqo nothing revolutionary: picking photos and predict how many of them were real or not+poll+share+arguments. #eltchat
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SueAnnan
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12:56
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#eltchat I like to see my colleagues using my homemade material. You get ideas there too
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teacherphili
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12:56
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RT @Shaunwilden: @theteacherjames Go on use the word you've being dying to for ages :-) #eltchat Go on! Go on!
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theteacherjames
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12:56
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@Shaunwilden nope, not budging... #eltchat
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CollinsELT
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12:56
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What's the best example to show the difference btw ‘-ing’ and ‘-ed’ adjectives? I'm boring vs I'm bored? #ELT #ELTchat #EFL #ESL #grammar
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elawassell
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12:56
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@Shaunwilden LOL!!! #ELTchat
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sophie_orourke
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12:56
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Agree RT @rliberni: @lexicoloco I disagree, good teachers are students too, they will always be learning #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:56
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@marcusmurilo @lexicoloco @BrunoELT not saying should be full-time just still have a connection with chalk-face #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:56
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RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Anyone got any wonderful examples they'd like to share of materials from scratch then? :-)
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theteacherjames
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12:57
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@harrisonmike Yes, and why give a handout when the student can make their own in their notebook? #eltchat
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marcusmurilo
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12:57
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@lexicoloco @rliberni @BrunoELT not sure if unfair 2 expect them 2 still teach; after all, aren't they designing mat's 4 class use? #eltchat
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ljp2010
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12:57
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@theteacherjames Viva the photocopy free classroom!!! #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:57
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RT @ljp2010: @theteacherjames Viva the photocopy free classroom!!! #ELTchat
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lexicoloco
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12:57
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@rliberni and good authors, too. Isn't every serious professional continually learning and teaching? #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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12:57
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RT @theteacherjames: @harrisonmike Yes, and why give a handout when the student can make their own in their notebook? #eltchat
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marcusmurilo
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12:58
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@rliberni @lexicoloco @BrunoELT WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE!! :D #eltchat
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SimonGreenall
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12:58
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@rliberni #eltchat Helllo.! It really is hard to be a full time teacher and a full time writer. I tried it.
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harrisonmike
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12:58
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RT @ljp2010: @theteacherjames Viva the photocopy free classroom!!! #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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12:58
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My advice for anyone amending their coursebook is cut down on the materials, & focus on the activity. Don't recreate the CB! #eltchat
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sophie_orourke
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12:58
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Check out @ELT_T2W where teaches can write & publish #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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12:69
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RT @ljp2010: @theteacherjames Viva the photocopy free classroom!!! #ELTchat
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esolcourses
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12:59
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@teacherphili 'secret sauce' anti-plagiarism measures, plus a helping hand from my good friend, Mr Google ;-) #eltchat
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rliberni
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12:59
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@ljp2010 created a role-play for practising conditionals - role cards, scenarios, vocab lists etc.. took about 10 lessons to do #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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12:59
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As we head towards the end can i ask who would like to do the summary #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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12:59
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RT @LizziePinard: @Shaunwilden I can, if you want....#eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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13:00
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@LizziePinard Super thanks Lizzie we'll get you the transcript at some point today @Marisa_C #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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13:00
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@SimonGreenall @rliberni but guess unless u get a lucrative book deal, u have to stay fulltime teaching #eltchat or get a wealthy partner ;)
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touqo
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13:00
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Thanks for the discussions! Happy I happened to be here at the right time for once! #eltchat
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marcusmurilo
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13:00
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RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Anyone got any wonderful examples they'd like to share of materials from scratch then? :-)
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LizziePinard
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13:00
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@Shaunwilden #eltchat cool :) Great discussion today, thanks all! :)
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ljp2010
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13:01
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#ELTchat Yes, thx everyone. Always a pleasure :-)
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theteacherjames
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13:01
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@marcusmurilo @lexicoloco @rliberni @BrunoELT Teachers are allowed to publish, it's called blogging! #eltchat
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LizziePinard
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13:01
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RT @theteacherjames: @marcusmurilo @lexicoloco @rliberni @BrunoELT Teachers are allowed to publish, it's called blogging! #eltchat
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SueAnnan
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13:01
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#ELTchat bye all. Have to return to the chalk face :-)
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teacherphili
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13:01
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is it over? can I go for lunch now? #ELTchat
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esolcourses
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13:01
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Thanks for another great #eltchat everyone - catch you later, hopefully :-)
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Shaunwilden
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13:01
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Ok folks that'll do for the first #eltchat today- join at 21BST for How to build rapport and confidence in an ELT class.
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elawassell
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13:01
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RT @theteacherjames: @marcusmurilo @lexicoloco @rliberni @BrunoELT Teachers are allowed to publish, its called blogging! #ELTchat
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SimonGreenall
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13:01
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RT @harrisonmike: @SimonGreenall @rliberni but guess .. >> I lived on nothing for several years before I made any money. #ELTchat
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rliberni
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13:01
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@SimonGreenall no criticism intended just a fam with the c'room which I'm sure you have :-) #eltchat
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teacherphili
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13:01
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What happened to 'Teaching Spelling'? came third again? #ELTchat
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harrisonmike
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13:02
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@theteacherjames @marcusmurilo @lexicoloco @rliberni @BrunoELT Think Marcus means *only* practising teachers could publish #eltchat ;)
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marcusmurilo
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13:01
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@theteacherjames What I meant was that only practicing Ts should be allowed to design mat's that get into classrooms for Ss to use #eltchat
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marcusmurilo
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13:01
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@theteacherjames but of course I meant it as a joke - or sort of, anyway :P #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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13:02
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@teacherphili was really close between 2 and 4 it lost by one vote #eltchat
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SimonGreenall
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13:02
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RT @rliberni: no criticism intended just a fam with the c'room #eltchat None taken but it's been a regular qu all my career.
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theteacherjames
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13:02
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@marcusmurilo fair enough, get your point. :-) #eltchat
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rliberni
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13:02
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@BrunoELT @SimonGreenall @harrisonmike blogging very diff I think & I am not anti CBs I think they are important but simply a tool #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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13:02
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Right wont be joining tonight as on a plane, time to leave South America and head back to Europe #eltchat
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teacherphili
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13:02
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@Shaunwilden shame coz don't think it's ever been discussed. #ELTchat It's a democratic vote, however.
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marcusmurilo
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13:03
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@theteacherjames @marcusmurilo @lexicoloco @rliberni @BrunoELT Think Marcus means *only* practising teachers could publish #eltchat > YES!
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josmodra
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13:03
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@theteacherjames some of my learners rely on my handout as a record of the lesson. Struggle to make their own notes. #eltchat #spikyprofile
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theteacherjames
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13:03
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@touqo Good to see you here Santtu! #eltchat
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rliberni
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13:04
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@SimonGreenall I know like th CB debate tbh a cb only as good as the tchr who uses it but fam w/croom will help make it relevant #eltchat
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rliberni
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13:05
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RT @Shaunwilden: Ok 5 minutes left anymore advice for making materials effective? #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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13:05
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@josmodra @theteacherjames v good point #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13:05
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@josmodra @harrisonmike I used to give a notetaking lesson at the beginning of the course for this reason. #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13:05
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RT @Shaunwilden: Ok folks that'll do for the first #eltchat today- join at 21BST for How to build rapport and confidence in an ELT class.
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