username |
time |
status |
Marisa_C |
11:40 AM |
How can we introduce, implement, evaluate an extensive reading programme & convince admins of its value? 1st #ELTchat topic in abt 20 mins |
cioccas |
11:43 AM |
RT @Marisa_C: How can we introduce, implement, evaluate an extensive reading programme & convince admins of its value? 1st #ELTchat topic in abt 20 mins |
Marisa_C |
11:45 AM |
Some pre-reading before #ELTchat http://t.co/o9ISbXzu & a nice collection for later http://t.co/DfCeDur9 |
Marisa_C |
11:47 AM |
And two book previews on google books 1) http://t.co/R619NwKy 2) http://t.co/BHeIFLsk #ELTchat on Extensive reading |
cioccas |
12:00 PM |
I'm back on #ELTchat again, yay! Wednesday 9pm here in Canberra, Australia ^_^ |
worldteacher |
12:01 PM |
@Marisa_C Good to be here! #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:01 PM |
RT @cybraryman1: #ELTchat on Extensive reading happening NOW 7 am EST |
Marisa_C |
12:01 PM |
@worldteacher you too Andrea! Welcome #eltchat |
cybraryman1 |
12:01 PM |
#ELTchat on Extensive reading happening NOW 7 am EST |
Marisa_C |
12:01 PM |
@cioccas Welcome back after a long while dear Lesley 0 you have been missed! #ELTchat |
worldteacher |
12:01 PM |
@cioccas Hey long time, no see, Lesley!! :-) #eltchat Rarely make it myself these days!! |
kevchanwow |
12:02 PM |
Will be spending my next 60 minutes in #ELTchat talking about extensive reading. Join us. |
Marisa_C |
12:02 PM |
@kevchanwow yikes you got me into it - by the end of this #ELTchat my vocab will have changed :-) |
hartle |
12:02 PM |
Hi everyone #ELTChat |
cioccas |
12:02 PM |
@Marisa_C Thanks Marisa, good to be back on #ELTchat |
kevchanwow |
12:02 PM |
Hi all. So nice to be able to talk about extended reading...woops. Did it again. #ELTchat. |
CELT_Athens |
12:02 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Some pre-reading before #ELTchat http://t.co/E9C7tavY & a nice collection for later http://t.co/iYpr7m1E |
Shaunwilden |
12:02 PM |
@cioccas Wow long time no see :-) #ELTchat |
cioccas |
12:03 PM |
RT @kevchanwow: Will be spending my next 60 minutes in #ELTchat talking about extensive reading. Join us. |
Marisa_C |
12:03 PM |
@worldteacher What level is it and what have been some of your choices Andrea? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:03 PM |
@kevchanwow @Marisa_C So is there actually any difference between extended reading and extensive reading ;-) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:03 PM |
@hartle HI Sharon! Welcome #ELTChat |
worldteacher |
12:03 PM |
Really interested in this topic - trying to implement an extensive reading programme on the course I'm currently coordinating. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:04 PM |
@cioccas Nice to have you back :-) #ELTchat |
worldteacher |
12:04 PM |
@Marisa_C Tall order - pre-int to upper-int in 16 weeks!! Started Monday. Looking at graded readers. #eltchat |
cioccas |
12:04 PM |
@hartle Hi Sharon :-) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:04 PM |
@elawassell hya #ELTchat #ELTchat |
worldteacher |
12:05 PM |
@hartle Trying graded readers on our Edmodo online classroom, one chapter each day in this 1st week of the course. #eltchat |
hartle |
12:05 PM |
RT @cioccas: @hartle Hi Sharon :-) #ELTchat. Hi Lesley :-) |
Shaunwilden |
12:05 PM |
@worldteacher @Marisa_C Wow that is a tall order - gonna be an intensive extensive program then! #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:05 PM |
@worldteacher Graded readers a good choice when launching a reading programme like this - Ss choice or Class Reader? #eltchat |
hartle |
12:05 PM |
RT @worldteacher: Really interested in this topic - trying to implement an extensive reading programme...#eltchat How RU doing it? |
worldteacher |
12:06 PM |
@Marisa_C Started with a class reader - then hope sts will choose their own. #eltchat |
harrisonmike |
12:07 PM |
@Marisa_C @worldteacher is it extensive reading? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:07 PM |
RT @worldteacher: @Marisa_C Started with a class reader - then hope sts will choose their own. #eltchat > Gd idea to intro them to ER |
daveclearycz |
12:07 PM |
Agree graded readers are great but other material can be hard to source #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:07 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @worldteacher @Marisa_C Wow that is a tall order - gonna be an intensive extensive program then! #ELTchat >Definitely! |
hartle |
12:07 PM |
#eltchat i've used class lobraries etc. In the past with varying success |
Shaunwilden |
12:08 PM |
@kevchanwow Yes cost is a factor when setting up a graded reader library though as an investment it can be used long term #ELTchat |
hartle |
12:08 PM |
RT @worldteacher: #eltchat great idea! are they blended learners, then? What level are they? Cn I see yr class? |
daveclearycz |
12:08 PM |
RT @daveclearycz: sorrz meant to say: Agree graded readers are great but other material is too but can be hard to source #eltchat |
ljp2010 |
12:08 PM |
#ELTchat Morning all. Bit late but good t 2 c u all. Will try to catch up... |
worldteacher |
12:08 PM |
@harrisonmike Yes! #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:08 PM |
@harrisonmike yes #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:09 PM |
@hartle Absolutely, Sharon - would love your input! Intend to write up the 1st week at the w/end. #eltchat |
harrisonmike |
12:09 PM |
#eltchat for those in the UK, http://t.co/XgPKdziJ is a fairly accessible (readable) newspaper. Good for topical extensive reading? |
kevchanwow |
12:09 PM |
If you organize the materials by level, extended readers make that easy. It's fitting in the sup. stuff that gets messy. |
reasons4 |
12:09 PM |
“@elawassell: The avantage of a class reader is...#ELTchat” > and the disadvantage if finding something that suits the whole class. |
ljp2010 |
12:10 PM |
#ELTchat We have a set reader for each level per term and a small school library. We also have level blogs with links to articles, etc. |
cioccas |
12:10 PM |
I'm not that organised. I just talk to individual Ss about fav books that I think they'd be interested in & able to manage. #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:10 PM |
@reasons4 Yes good point tricky balance - the one set or many #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:11 PM |
@harrisonmike @kevchanwow Jez's blog is dedicated to reading isnt it - http://t.co/pMuzHKo7 might be a useful source of ideas #eltchat |
ljp2010 |
12:11 PM |
#ELTchat Anyone had success with sts choosing own reader? Swap programmes? |
hartle |
12:11 PM |
@worldteacher great Andrea, it's smthng I'm really interested in but find it hard to motivate my stds :-(( eltchat Can U give me link to it? |
worldteacher |
12:11 PM |
@cioccas Do you find that many of your sts choose to read in English without being 'forced'? #eltchat |
reasons4 |
12:11 PM |
“@harrisonmike: #eltchat but awfully right wing and opinionated need to make sure you do some critical thinking exercises |
hartle |
12:12 PM |
#eltchat gave stds chiice btwn Reading or Listening projects. Most chose listening but some takers 4 reading. |
Shaunwilden |
12:12 PM |
@ljp2010 Am not sure what qualifies as success but at my last school we had a fairly active library running out of the SAC #eltchat |
cioccas |
12:12 PM |
@worldteacher #eltchat < Only the ones that like reading in their L1 |
reasons4 |
12:12 PM |
@worldteacher: @cioccas Do u find that many of your sts choose to read w/out being 'forced'? #eltchat i think that depents on giving choice |
Marisa_C |
12:12 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Jez's blog is dedicated to reading isnt it - http://t.co/VsATQ6cq might be a useful source of ideas #eltchat |
harrisonmike |
12:12 PM |
#eltchat @jezuden's efl reading in cares blog http://t.co/njg254WB #extensivereading interviews w/ @harmerj and @sueleather |
kevchanwow |
12:12 PM |
@harrisonmike @Shaunwilden @jezuden That is a great idea.We got a starter set of about 200 books, but that's not enough I'm afraid. #ELTchat |
worldteacher |
12:12 PM |
@ljp2010 Sounds great! #eltchat |
harrisonmike |
12:13 PM |
#eltchat @jezuden's @bcseminars on the importance of reading for pleasure http://t.co/2qabHZnj #extensivereading |
worldteacher |
12:13 PM |
@cioccas As I thought! Do you try to persuade the others or is it entirely voluntary? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:13 PM |
A class library or even a library BOX if no library available is a great idea - I take one from class to class #ELTchat |
cioccas |
12:13 PM |
@reasons4 @worldteacher I don't force, just encourage - reading for pleasure! #ELTchat |
ljp2010 |
12:13 PM |
#ELTchat @worldteacher Yes, some sts really take advantage of it. But how to reach those that may not have a love of reading in general? |
harrisonmike |
12:13 PM |
@reasons4 good point! #eltchat |
kevchanwow |
12:14 PM |
I had a student read her first book in any language 2 months ago. She's an avid reader now. For her it was all about confidence. #ELTchat |
worldteacher |
12:14 PM |
@ljp2010 I don't know! That's my dilemma because I really believe in the benefit or extensive reading! #eltchat |
cioccas |
12:14 PM |
@worldteacher Entirely voluntary! #ELTchat |
hartle |
12:14 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @harrisonmike @kevchanwow Jez's blog is dedicated to reading isnt it - http://t.co/pMuzHKo7 might be a useful source of ideas #eltchat |
ljp2010 |
12:14 PM |
@Shaunwilden I've added some collections of stories to ours but not the library per se. Worth some thought. #ELTchat |
cioccas |
12:15 PM |
RT @kevchanwow: I had a student read her first book in any language 2 months ago.... #ELTchat <Great story! |
harrisonmike |
12:15 PM |
#eltchat I set up a colleague to run a 'reading' class i.e. sts read their graded readers, then discuss and do lang/skills work 1/2 |
Shaunwilden |
12:15 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: #eltchat @bcseminars on the importance of reading for pleasure http://t.co/T8l6pVkD #extensivereading |
Books4English |
12:15 PM |
best low lvl reader is Penguin K's 1st case by L.G. Alexander - a whodunnit with suspect interviews good extended class reading +k7 #eltchat |
reasons4 |
12:15 PM |
“@cioccas: @reasons4 @worldteacher I don't force, just encourage - reading for pleasure! #ELTchat” exactly :-) |
worldteacher |
12:15 PM |
@cioccas Probably best! :-) I do get a bit evangelical about the value of extensive reading, though! #eltchat |
ljp2010 |
12:15 PM |
@kevchanwow Yes, getting the right level to start reading is so important. #ELTchat |
cybraryman1 |
12:15 PM |
My Classroom Libraries page: http://t.co/wfTgBjsk #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:15 PM |
Voluntary is good but some incentive, esp for YL's or teens useful - a chart with prizes etc #ELTchat publishers used to produce them |
reasons4 |
12:15 PM |
“@ljp2010: #ELTchat @worldteacher how to reach those that may not have a love of reading in general?” Um don't we can't flog a dead horse |
daveclearycz |
12:15 PM |
So how do you convince reluctant sts to ty even graded readers? #eltchat |
cioccas |
12:15 PM |
@Marisa_C I have a set of Roald Dahl books that Ss can borrow - not graded but includes 'young readers' to older ones Also CDs #ELTchat |
worldteacher |
12:16 PM |
@kevchanwow Great! #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:16 PM |
@cioccas do you think ss should be able to HEAR the stories as well as read? doesn't that defeat the purpose of reading? #ELTchat |
ljp2010 |
12:16 PM |
#ELTchat |
harrisonmike |
12:16 PM |
#eltchat 2/2 she was initially sceptical, but said it really worked well, although the sts that got the most were prob good readers in L1 |
ljp2010 |
12:16 PM |
@worldteacher My best guess is thru engaging pre & post reading tasks. I'm sure we'll get to practical ideas 4 those later #ELTchat |
hartle |
12:16 PM |
#eltchat motivation key, stds need clear tasks & goals, mine gave group presentations of the best things they'd read, some answer in exams |
ljp2010 |
12:17 PM |
Anyone tried a sustained silent reading prog in class time e.g. 15 minutes where sts JUST read whatever they want? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:17 PM |
@kevchanwow Good point #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:17 PM |
@Marisa_C I think they still do, I know OUP has stuff on their website for teachers http://t.co/ZN1AAdMp #ELTchat |
kevchanwow |
12:17 PM |
And if you don't set aside time specifically for reading, will students really get the message that reading is important? #ELTchat |
kevchanwow |
12:18 PM |
@cioccas She started at level 1/400 headwords and is now reading level 3 (1000 headwords) all in 3 months. Extensive reading works. #ELTchat |
reasons4 |
12:18 PM |
“@Marisa_C: @cioccas doesn't that defeat the purpose of reading? #ELTchat” > different strokes isn't it the exposure to eng that is imp? |
Shaunwilden |
12:18 PM |
@ljp2010 No, have you, did it work? #ELTchat |
cioccas |
12:18 PM |
@Marisa_C Not necessarily, but it gets some into reading and helps those with lower literacy manage harder texts #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:18 PM |
RT @ljp2010: Anyone tried a sustained silent reading prog in class time e.g. 15 minutes where sts JUST read whatever they want? #ELTchat |
harrisonmike |
12:18 PM |
@Marisa_C @cioccas #eltchat surely they should hear or visualise internally. CDs that come w/readers good for backing up the reading |
Shaunwilden |
12:19 PM |
@kevchanwow Yes but then if we force them to read in that time are we likely to demotivate them? #ELTchat |
worldteacher |
12:19 PM |
Does anyone have any experience of setting up a book club for EFL learners? #eltchat |
ljp2010 |
12:19 PM |
@Shaunwilden Not yet! 1 teacher did here and had good results. From admin viewpoint, it's how to sell it to the sts and parents #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:19 PM |
@harrisonmike @cioccas #eltchat Am not convinced of this myself - turns Ss into slow voice-dependent readers #ELTchat |
reasons4 |
12:20 PM |
“@Marisa_C: RT @ljp2010: Anyone tried a sustained silent reading prog in class time #ELTchat” if my czech teacher did that I'd complain |
hartle |
12:20 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @harrisonmike @cioccas #eltchat Am not convinced of this myself... #ELTchat depends on text, ghost stories with effects gd |
kevchanwow |
12:20 PM |
@ljp2010 We are going to do a 2 hour a week silent reading program with 1 hour a week of voluntary conversation class on readings. #ELTchat |
MrChrisJWilson |
12:20 PM |
#eltchat any thoughts about encouraging dyslexic sts with reading? My thought read + listen at the same time. |
Shaunwilden |
12:20 PM |
RT @worldteacher: Does anyone have any experience of setting up a book club for EFL learners? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:21 PM |
@ljp2010 @reasons4 I think class time should be used to encourage but not necessarily do the actual reading #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:21 PM |
@harrisonmike I think reading and then listening - not vice versa #eltchat |
ljp2010 |
12:21 PM |
@reasons4 Exactly! We know reading is important but it isn't seen as valuable use of class time #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:21 PM |
@kevchanwow Personally I'd hate that if I were a students - I can read at home, class is for talking :-) #ELTchat |
harrisonmike |
12:21 PM |
@Marisa_C @cioccas what about reading, and *then* listening?? Or vice versa. #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:21 PM |
@kevchanwow Wow - 2 hours seems like a really long time! #eltchat |
analiakandel |
12:22 PM |
@Marisa_C @ljp2010 Yes. Reading stations, as follow-up to reading a novel, with short texts (eg comics) related to the main theme #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:22 PM |
RT @reasons4: “@ljp2010: t isn't seen as valuable use of class time #ELTchat” it is valuable in class time but for a reason. I can read at home. |
reasons4 |
12:22 PM |
“@ljp2010: t isn't seen as valuable use of class time #ELTchat” it is valuable in class time but for a reason. I can read at home. |
Books4English |
12:22 PM |
Newspaper for EFL Sts with teacher activities worth a try? - http://t.co/2dwY0Ngl Free 2-month trial at http://t.co/AW3V52el #eltchat |
kevchanwow |
12:22 PM |
@Shaunwilden demotivate? If they don't like the text, that demotivates. If they can change text anytime it's OK. Breaks OK, too. #ELTchat |
ljp2010 |
12:22 PM |
@Shaunwilden So engaging tasks and work on the themes, etc? #ELTchat |
hartle |
12:22 PM |
RT @kevchanwow: @ljp2010 ?...#ELTchat gd idea. What's the teaching context? |
harrisonmike |
12:22 PM |
@hartle @Marisa_C @cioccas and the reader! E.g. Stephen Fry for Harry Potter, Tony Robinson on some Pratchett books #eltchat |
cioccas |
12:22 PM |
@worldteacher Re... a book club for EFL learners? #eltchat I talk books with my 1-to-1 learners has led to some int. discoveries for me too! |
worldteacher |
12:23 PM |
RT @emmeta78: at the beginning of the course every student buys a book from a list teacher gives, then they swap during course #eltchat |
hartle |
12:23 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @kevchanwow Personally I'd hate that ....class is for talking :-) #ELTchat or integrated skills? |
cioccas |
12:23 PM |
I've done some things from BritLit http://t.co/IjG8gKzv which has led to some Ss reading the whole book #ELTchat |
MrChrisJWilson |
12:23 PM |
#eltchat thought two: (how) can we use ebooks (many are free) to encourage reading? They've increased my reading. |
reasons4 |
12:23 PM |
“@Shaunwilden: @ljp2010 I think class time should be used to encourage but not necessarily do the actual reading #ELTchat” agreed |
Books4English |
12:23 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @ljp2010 @reasons4 I think class time should be used to encourage but not necessarily do the actual reading #ELTchat |
daveclearycz |
12:23 PM |
#eltchat so if learners are reluctant to read in class how do we motivate them to do it outside? |
Marisa_C |
12:24 PM |
@analiakandel nice - dramaizing scenes from a story or book might engage them in some reading aloud practice too #ELTchat |
daveclearycz |
12:24 PM |
People running ER programms, how did you 'sell' it to your sts/ #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:24 PM |
RT @MrChrisJWilson: #eltchat thought 2: (how) can we use ebooks (many are free) to encourage reading? They've increased my reading. Gd idea! |
hartle |
12:24 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: @hartle @Marisa_C @cioccas and the reader! E.g. Stephen Fry for Harry Potter... #eltchat Absolutely :-) |
reasons4 |
12:24 PM |
“@daveclearycz: #eltchat haven't you been to my session on readers? :-) |
Thomway |
12:24 PM |
@worldteacher Book club=yes, oft called 'literacy circles' in primary ed. Excellent motivation for YLs. Esp if u provide *popcorn* #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:24 PM |
@ljp2010 Yes and the skills necessary to read independently. I used to have periods where they can ask for advice / questions #ELTchat |
daveclearycz |
12:25 PM |
RT @reasons4: “@daveclearycz: #eltchat haven't you been to my session on readers? :-) sadly no |
daveclearycz |
12:25 PM |
RT @reasons4: “@daveclearycz: #eltchat haven't you been to my session on readers? :-) sadly no |
reasons4 |
12:25 PM |
“@Marisa_C: @analiakandel might engage them in some reading aloud practice too #ELTchat” Do students need reading aloud practice? |
analiakandel |
12:25 PM |
@Marisa_C Yes! #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:25 PM |
RT @daveclearycz: People running ER programms, how did you 'sell' it to your sts/ #eltchat > Best way to consolidate ur grammar |
ljp2010 |
12:25 PM |
@Shaunwilden Like. Many reading progs assume that the sts can already do so. While we learn to read by reading, help is good :-) #ELTchat |
kevchanwow |
12:25 PM |
That's the issue. Students can read at home, but don't. And it's not just reading. It's about building a community of readers. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:25 PM |
RT @daveclearycz: People running ER programms, how did you 'sell' it to your sts/ #eltchat > Best way to acquire vocab |
Shaunwilden |
12:25 PM |
RT @daveclearycz: People running ER programms, how did you 'sell' it to your sts/ #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:26 PM |
@reasons4 if preparing a scene for acting out why not - might lift some dialog lines and practise them #ELTchat |
reasons4 |
12:26 PM |
RT @daveclearycz: RT @reasons4: “@daveclearycz: #eltchat haven't you been to my session on readers? :-) sadly no |
worldteacher |
12:26 PM |
@daveclearycz I quote one of my 'success stories' - a st whose level improved dramatically through ER! #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:27 PM |
@reasons4 Reading aloud helps with pron & intonation, as does acting out scenes fron the book. #eltchat |
yya2 |
12:27 PM |
Ext. reading in class: I had lots of short articles & they read of as many as they could in 20 min, filled in a form #ELTchat |
analiakandel |
12:27 PM |
@reasons4 @Marisa_C When I did it, it was silent reading, and Ss seemed v interested. Each chose what they wished to read #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:27 PM |
@daveclearycz As way to access the wider world of English like the interweb thingy #ELTchat |
reasons4 |
12:28 PM |
“@worldteacher: @reasons4 Reading aloud helps with pron & intonation, #eltchat” have to agree to disagree there |
MrChrisJWilson |
12:28 PM |
#eltchat (sorry for 'shouting' thoughts) what about using blogs and RSS readers to encourage reading? Reading not just fiction. |
paatic |
12:29 PM |
RT @worldteacher: @reasons4 Reading aloud helps with pron & intonation, as does acting out scenes fron the book. #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:29 PM |
@reasons4 OK - maybe we can come back to it in a future #eltchat? :-) |
reasons4 |
12:29 PM |
“@Marisa_C: @reasons4 if preparing a scene for acting out why not #ELTchat” a plethora of reasons - maybe another #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:29 PM |
@reasons4 we wouldn't expect any less from you :-D #eltchat |
hartle |
12:29 PM |
RT @cioccas: I've done some things from BritLit http://t.co/s2nlCFVd which has led to some Ss reading the whole book #ELTchat > This is gr8t |
Shaunwilden |
12:30 PM |
@worldteacher @reasons4 @Marisa_C I think we did an #eltchat on reading aloud last year ;-) |
kevchanwow |
12:30 PM |
book reviews: students posting reviews of books on blogs generates interest in the texts, writing practice, and community building. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:30 PM |
@reasons4 we ve actually done that one on reading aloud - can send you link #ELTchat #eltchat |
yya2 |
12:31 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson I surveyed sts abt their interests & provided rss news abt those topics in the class wiki for them to read. #eltchat |
kevchanwow |
12:31 PM |
Setting up a blog for your ext reading program and letting students post book reviews gives output chance and community building #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:31 PM |
@kevchanwow #ELTchat Like the idea of book review on blogs or as a wiki challenge ! Yes! |
cioccas |
12:31 PM |
RT @kevchanwow: book reviews: ... generates interest in the texts, writing practice, and community building. #ELTchat <great idea! |
worldteacher |
12:31 PM |
RT @kevchanwow: book reviews: students posting reviews of books on blogs generates interest in the texts, writing practice, and community building. #ELTchat |
daveclearycz |
12:31 PM |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @worldteacher Thanks for the replies :-) #ELTchat |
Books4English |
12:31 PM |
Has anyone used original texts for int/upp int Ss - Dahl's KISS KISS and Orwell's ANIMAL FARM were always popular? #ELTchat |
worldteacher |
12:31 PM |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Must have missed it - will look later! #eltchat. Thanks! |
Marisa_C |
12:32 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: As a way to engage sts @llea_dias set up a facebook group where all her sts post as characters in a book #ELTchat >Great! |
Books4English |
12:32 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: As a way to engage sts @llea_dias set up a facebook group where all her sts post as characters in a book, i's a very neat idea #ELTchat |
cioccas |
12:32 PM |
RT @Books4English: Has anyone used original texts for int/upp int Ss... #ELTchat Yes, I'm not a great fan of graded texts myself :-) |
ljp2010 |
12:32 PM |
@Books4English We use Kiss Kiss original at advanced. Potentially dangerous to use for lower levels, can be demotivating #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:32 PM |
RT @yya2: @MrChrisJWilson I surveyed sts - and what did they say? results available? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:32 PM |
As a way to engage sts @llea_dias set up a facebook group where all her sts post as characters in a book, i's a very neat idea #ELTchat |
yya2 |
12:33 PM |
@Marisa_C Surveyed their interests 2 get topics 4 the rss news. They wr motivated 2 read more b/c it was abt topics they liked. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:33 PM |
RT @cioccas: RT @Books4English: Has anyone used original texts for int/upp int Ss... #ELTchat > Yes, used to write loads of stuff |
Books4English |
12:33 PM |
RT @cioccas: RT @Books4English: Has anyone used original texts for int/upp int Ss... #ELTchat Yes, I'm not a great fan of graded texts myself :-) |
Books4English |
12:33 PM |
RT @ljp2010: @Books4English We use Kiss Kiss original at advanced. Potentially dangerous to use for lower levels, can be demotivating #ELTchat |
worldteacher |
12:33 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: As a way to engage sts @llea_dias set up a FB group where all her sts post as characters in a book, #ELTchat >Great idea!! |
Marisa_C |
12:34 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @cioccas @Books4English Yes I have, Cambridge exams have set texts so we used to deal with those #ELTchat > me too |
MrChrisJWilson |
12:34 PM |
RT @kevchanwow: Setting up a blog for your ext reading program and letting students post book reviews gives output chance and community building #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:34 PM |
@cioccas @Books4English Yes I have, Cambridge exams have set texts so we used to deal with those #ELTchat |
ljp2010 |
12:34 PM |
@cioccas What do you use? Had some bad experiences with Spanish authentic texts which scared me off long authentic texts a bit!! #ELTchat |
hartle |
12:34 PM |
#eltchat I've got an E R page on the wiki with various ideas & tasks but not many takers :-(( http://t.co/4rPjGUri |
kevchanwow |
12:34 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: As a way to engage sts @llea_dias set up a facebook group where all her sts post as characters in a book, i's a very neat idea #ELTchat |
hartle |
12:35 PM |
RT @ljp2010: @cioccas What do you use? #ELTchat I've used set texts for Cambridge exams preparation, and letting stds choose own reading 2 |
Marisa_C |
12:35 PM |
I must say that getting Ss to take up the set texts option ALWAYS accelerated Ss' progress - passed CPE in one yr #eltchat |
kevchanwow |
12:35 PM |
@hartle Will be hitting that wiki ERPage shortly. Thanks for the link. #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:35 PM |
RT @daveclearycz: but I read a lot for pleasure & never write a review, only talk about it as Ï liked it" so is that still ER?#ELTchat |
MrChrisJWilson |
12:35 PM |
@kevchanwow or write your own short stories ;) #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:36 PM |
RT @cioccas: @ljp2010 When I'm learning other languages, I'd rather read kids books that abridged/graded adult ones. #ELTchat >Me too! |
harrisonmike |
12:36 PM |
@Shaunwilden @daveclearycz I say yes. After all, how often do you write about reading #eltchat |
hartle |
12:36 PM |
@kevchanwow yr welcome, don't know how useful it is though #eltchat |
cioccas |
12:36 PM |
@ljp2010 When I'm learning other languages, I'd rather read kids books that abridged/graded adult ones. #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:36 PM |
@kevchanwow Arent book reviews a bit dull these days? #ELTchat Are they likely to engage teens? |
ljp2010 |
12:37 PM |
@cioccas Fair point, me too. But graded readers have their place. Some sts would prefer that to kids books. #ELTchat |
createch1 |
12:37 PM |
@Shaunwilden @llea_dias #ELTchat I use http://t.co/Gps3XcIk to create facebook profiles |
Shaunwilden |
12:37 PM |
@harrisonmike Personally very little apart from paid reviews for magazines :-) #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:37 PM |
@Shaunwilden may be they could record their reviews an interviews - Student A = author Student B = interviewer #ELTchat |
hartle |
12:37 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: I must say that getting Ss to take up the set texts option ALWAYS accelerated Ss' progress #eltchat Yes, ABSOLUTELY |
Shaunwilden |
12:38 PM |
@harrisonmike @daveclearycz Though I guess if there is a class blog...#ELTchat |
cioccas |
12:38 PM |
@ljp2010 Sure, I'm talking more about my preferences as a reader here :) #ELTchat |
daveclearycz |
12:38 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: I say yes. After all, how often do you write about reading #eltchat - dont, so why ask sts to if we want to encourage er |
reasons4 |
12:38 PM |
“@harrisonmike: @Shaunwilden @daveclearycz how often do you write about reading #eltchat” I often send meail to familiy about books I read |
hartle |
12:38 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @kevchanwow Arent book reviews a bit dull these days? #ELTchat Depends on book review, try Hunger Games + videos etc |
ljp2010 |
12:39 PM |
@cioccas Also important :-) It can be hard to "sell" a book to sts if ur not that keen yourself #ELTchat |
harrisonmike |
12:39 PM |
RT @daveclearycz: RT @harrisonmike: I say yes. After all, how often do you write about reading #eltchat - dont, so why ask sts to if we want to encourage er |
harrisonmike |
12:39 PM |
RT @reasons4: “@harrisonmike: @Shaunwilden @daveclearycz how often do you write about reading #eltchat” I often send meail to familiy about books I read |
hartle |
12:39 PM |
RT @createch1: @Shaunwilden @llea_dias #ELTchat I use http://t.co/nPGdTJmh> I tried this but uni stds not motivated |
harrisonmike |
12:39 PM |
@Shaunwilden @daveclearycz create a purpose (realistic) not just for the sake of doing it #eltchat #writingaboutreading |
Books4English |
12:39 PM |
@ljp2010 Interesting to hear that Kiss Kiss is still being used! Thanks for the feedback #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:39 PM |
RT @createch1: @Shaunwilden @llea_dias #ELTchat I use http://t.co/J1vXZ17M to create facebook profiles - Yes thats a good site |
ljp2010 |
12:40 PM |
@Books4English Any more contemporary collections of short stories would be great too. Suggestions? #ELTchat |
kevchanwow |
12:40 PM |
@hartle wow. That's an idea. Video review of the book! #ELTchat. Spoken practice. #ELTchat |
daveclearycz |
12:40 PM |
@harrisonmike #eltchat But I thought ER was just for the sake of reading, with improved language a very nice big bonus |
reasons4 |
12:41 PM |
“@Shaunwilden: I think i may have mentioned this in #eltchat before you have yes :-) |
Shaunwilden |
12:41 PM |
Perhaps the ideas in it can be used with sts #eltchat |
yya2 |
12:41 PM |
When extensive reading, students can just write why they would recommend a certain article to other students in the class. #eltchat |
harrisonmike |
12:41 PM |
@daveclearycz I meant, don't do writing about reading for the sake of doing it =) #eltchat |
cioccas |
12:41 PM |
@ljp2010 Exactly! I exchange book recom'd'ns with Ss then try to source trans. versions of their faves - good cross-cultural stuff #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:41 PM |
I think i may have mentioned this in #eltchat before but have u seen mytweetsorrow project from a couple of years ago http://t.co/mmLZSFE7 |
cioccas |
12:42 PM |
@Books4English @ljp2010 @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden A pleasure! Welcome to #ELTchat |
reasons4 |
12:42 PM |
“@Shaunwilden: @reasons4 Well it seemed pertinent :-) #eltchat”it was :-) I was just confirming what your ailing mind vaguley recalled |
Shaunwilden |
12:42 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat so easy to share on Kindle etc. So ask stds to find three favourite quotes for class discussion |
hartle |
12:42 PM |
#eltchat so easy to share on Kindle etc. So ask stds to find three favourite quotes for class discussion |
Marisa_C |
12:42 PM |
@reasons4 Extensive reading is ultimately for pleasure bt I think Ts 'put paws' in it for the training part - then let go :-D #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:42 PM |
@reasons4 Well it seemed pertinent :-) #eltchat |
daveclearycz |
12:42 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: @daveclearycz I meant, don't do writing about reading for the sake of doing it =) #eltchat - then I agree :-) |
harrisonmike |
12:43 PM |
@reasons4 @daveclearycz depends on management. Set time for ER, set time for conversation/discussion, allow ER 2b 1 of the topics #eltchat |
createch1 |
12:43 PM |
I asked ss to make a film trailer based on the book #ELTchat |
BobK99 |
12:43 PM |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat Late today. Doc review overran ;( Catching up... |
MrChrisJWilson |
12:44 PM |
@hartle you can send them to twitter/fb can't you? #eltchat |
yya2 |
12:44 PM |
Interesting idea: Guided independent reading: http://t.co/pmVvq4Mx #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:44 PM |
@BobK99 Very late, black mark next to your name on the register :-) #eltchat |
ljp2010 |
12:45 PM |
Found this idea I want to try http://t.co/qpqFDlbE Could be a nice in class (Before/after class) low-tech approach to the reader #ELTchat |
silverteacher |
12:45 PM |
made students act some scenes from Skellig by David Almond, worked out great #ELTchat |
SophiaKhan4 |
12:45 PM |
RT @kevchanwow: That's the issue. Students can read at home, but don't. And it's not just reading. It's about building a community of readers. #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:46 PM |
@hartle Noit really reading, I'd use it to bring the reading alive rather than book reviews #eltchat |
reasons4 |
12:46 PM |
“@Marisa_C: @reasons4 #eltchat” I think teachers should put paws in but we can't have it both ways :-) |
Marisa_C |
12:46 PM |
RT @silverteacher: made students act some scenes from Skellig by David Almond, worked out great #ELTchat |
hartle |
12:47 PM |
This page http://t.co/WummISs7 has results from last year's project. Learners chose wht 2 read & presented ideas in class. #eltchat |
reasons4 |
12:48 PM |
“@MrChrisJWilson: #eltchat I know a teacher who, for business 121, discussed steve jobs autobiography. Did the student read it in English? |
Marisa_C |
12:48 PM |
@reasons4 Well, ultimately we really need to question our long term objective - is it a long or a short term one? Then choose app #eltchat |
MrChrisJWilson |
12:48 PM |
#eltchat I know a teacher who, for business 121, discussed steve jobs autobiography. They talked about his business model, leadership etc. |
hartle |
12:48 PM |
RT @MrChrisJWilson: @hartle you can send them to twitter/fb can't you? #eltchat got lost :-( you cn send what? |
yya2 |
12:49 PM |
Extensive reading, read as much as you can for pleasure - objective: general understanding. See: http://t.co/kZm2qb4f #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:49 PM |
@hartle Well there is more to it than twtter but yes, use twitter, youtube, facebook etc #eltchat |
hartle |
12:49 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @hartle Noit really reading, I'd use it to bring the reading ...#eltchat so make a twitter project alongside a set text? |
daveclearycz |
12:50 PM |
RT @yya2: Extensive reading, read as much as you can for pleasure - objective: general understanding. See: http://t.co/F6EX6Doy #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:50 PM |
RT @yya2: Extensive reading, read as much as you can for pleasure - objective: general understanding. See: http://t.co/Fq8KcYZx #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:51 PM |
@OUPELTGlobal Was on your specialist topic Verri! #eltchat |
Books4English |
12:51 PM |
RT @cioccas: @Books4English @ljp2010 @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden A pleasure! Welcome to #ELTchat |
cioccas |
12:51 PM |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: Sorry we missed #ELTchat today... Looks like it was a great discussion. <It's not over yet! :-) |
silverteacher |
12:51 PM |
also tried collaborative reading combined with class writing. Texts read by American correspondents and reviewed with Quibblo. #ELTchat |
hartle |
12:51 PM |
RT @yya2: Extensive reading, read as much as you can for pleasure - objective: general understanding. See: http://t.co/kZm2qb4f #eltchat |
cioccas |
12:51 PM |
RT @yya2: Extensive reading, read as much as you can for pleasure - objective: general understanding. See: http://t.co/kZm2qb4f #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:51 PM |
Sorry we missed #ELTchat today... Looks like it was a great discussion. |
daveclearycz |
12:52 PM |
RT @yya2: From ER http://t.co/F6EX6Doy #eltchat The purposes are usually related to pleasure, information and general understanding. |
Marisa_C |
12:52 PM |
Some Ts - esp of advanced Ss - like to use bits for literary appreciation - then let Ss loose on rest of book - what do u think? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:52 PM |
@OUPELTGlobal Poor him :-) #eltchat |
hartle |
12:52 PM |
Gotta go now, but thnx for a very interesting discussion :-)#eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:52 PM |
@Shaunwilden Verri's in meetings all day - that's why we missed it! #eltchat |
yya2 |
12:53 PM |
Extensive reading is done individually and silently. Students read materials at their own pace. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:53 PM |
@Marisa_C Sounds like a nice idea :-) #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:53 PM |
@Shaunwilden He doesn't have it too bad ;) #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:54 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @cioccas: @Marisa_C Yes, that's one of the ways I use BritLit http://t.co/vgPuK27q #ELtchat |
silverteacher |
12:54 PM |
Why not make students write reviews of the school library books? collected in a binder for a long term use? #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:54 PM |
RT @cioccas: @Marisa_C Yes, that's one of the ways I use BritLit http://t.co/vgPuK27q #ELtchat |
Marisa_C |
12:54 PM |
RT @yya2: Extensive reading is done individually and silently. Students read materials at their own pace. #eltchat |
cioccas |
12:54 PM |
@Marisa_C Yes, that's one of the ways I use BritLit http://t.co/IjG8gKzv #ELtchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:55 PM |
@silverteacher Or play with the review idea, i.e. use only X number of words, choose key adjectives for it, make it a guessing game #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:55 PM |
If using a class library for borrowing, just a quick 1-5 star evaluation might suffice #eltchat |
BobK99 |
12:55 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Some Ts ... use bits for literary appreiation - then let Ss loose on rest of book - what do u think? #eltchat >Gd idea |
Books4English |
12:55 PM |
@cioccas @ljp2010 @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden thnks for welcome - been ELT bkselling for 38 yrs so remember a lot! Not hot on techy bits #ELTchat |
yya2 |
12:55 PM |
@Marisa_C You can bring different short novels or literary pieces to class and let student choose what they want to read. #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:56 PM |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: We have a whole range of Extensive/Graded Reading help videos on YouTube: http://t.co/hj4tJegW #ELTchat >Useful -thanks |
kevchanwow |
12:56 PM |
@yya2 @Marisa_C the more you bring to class the better I think. Even stuff way beyond students level. Just to try has value. #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:56 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: If using a class library for borrowing, just a quick 1-5 star evaluation might suffice #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:56 PM |
We have a whole range of Extensive/Graded Reading help videos on YouTube: http://t.co/4yM8FzQl #ELTchat |
mltmpk |
12:57 PM |
RT @yya2: Extensive reading, read as much as you can for pleasure - objective: general understanding.http://t.co/Fq8KcYZx #eltchat” |
Marisa_C |
12:57 PM |
@Shaunwilden floral testing perhaps - is that what u meant :-D #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:57 PM |
RT @daveclearycz: Other than foral testing and Ts intuition any other ways to evaluate success of an ER program? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:58 PM |
@daveclearycz was teasing :-D #eltchat |
yya2 |
12:58 PM |
Great resources in this site: http://t.co/UcfyBnst #eltchat |
mltmpk |
12:58 PM |
“@Marisa_C: RT @yya2: Extensive reading is done individually and silently. Students read materials at their own pace. #eltchat” |
Shaunwilden |
12:58 PM |
As we get towards the end who wants to the summary? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:58 PM |
About to finish this chat!!!! Any takers for the summary please? #ELTchat RT RT RT RT RT RT RT |
daveclearycz |
12:58 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden floral testing perhaps - is that what u meant :-D #eltchat - I meant formal :-) |
yya2 |
12:58 PM |
@worldteacher Yes! The more the better, students can be challenged with material a little beyond their level. #eltchat |
kevchanwow |
12:58 PM |
If environment is safe and Ss know they can put a book back anytime, there is no way to fail. They are empowered to try any text #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:58 PM |
@Marisa_C Haha I dunno ask Dave, I was just adding the hashtag #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:58 PM |
@Shaunwilden Count how many sts want to do it again?! #eltchat |
daveclearycz |
12:59 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @daveclearycz was teasing :-D #eltchat but I like the idea of floral testing in class, giving flowers instead of smileys |
worldteacher |
12:59 PM |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Happy to take it, but can't do it till the weekend! #eltchat |
BobK99 |
12:59 PM |
RT @worldteacher: RT @OUPELTGlobal: ... Extensive/Graded Reading help videos on YouTube: http://t.co/nLr4swOK #ELTchat >Useful -thanks *2 |
Marisa_C |
12:59 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: As we get towards the end who wants to the summary? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:59 PM |
RT @yya2: Great resources in this site: http://t.co/OOjGrYmi #eltchat looks useful :-) |
Marisa_C |
12:59 PM |
RT @yya2: Great resources in this site: http://t.co/K637JApR #eltchat |
silverteacher |
1:00 PM |
@Shaunwilden @yya2 thks very interesting chat :) |
Marisa_C |
1:00 PM |
@daveclearycz nice image you created there #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
1:00 PM |
@worldteacher @Marisa_C Super thanks Andrea #eltchat |
mltmpk |
1:00 PM |
“@Marisa_C: RT @yya2: Great resources in this site: http://t.co/UheF1rYG #eltchat” |
cioccas |
1:00 PM |
Great chat, thanks all! Good night - nearly bedtime for me! zzzz.... #ELTchat |
BobK99 |
1:01 PM |
RT @yya2: Great resources in this site: http://t.co/UcfyBnst #eltchat |
llea_dias |
1:01 PM |
It`s a shame I always miss #eltchat. |
daveclearycz |
1:01 PM |
Thanks all #eltchat (note the hashtag @Shaunwilden ) |
yya2 |
1:01 PM |
Thanks everybody. Nice ideas. #eltchat |
worldteacher |
1:01 PM |
@cioccas Goodnight, Lesley. 'See you' next week? #eltchat |
kevchanwow |
1:01 PM |
Since you all were so kind as to pick this topic, I will happily summarize. #ELTchat |
ljp2010 |
1:01 PM |
Time to start the day. Thx everyone #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
1:02 PM |
@yya2 thanks for joining @daveclearycz #eltchat@cioccas @ljp2010 #eltchat@kevchanwow #ELTchat@BobK99 #ELTchat@mltmpk #ELTchat #eltchat |
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