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esolcourses
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4/4/2012
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2:03 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets are going to be dedicated to #ELTchat - who else is participating? ] me
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:03 P.M.
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For the next hour my tweets are going to be dedicated to #ELTchat - who else is participating?
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esolcourses
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4/4/2012
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2:03 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: The topic is How effective is guided discovery in the ELT classroom? Can it help promote learner autonomy? #eltchat
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BobK99
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4/4/2012
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2:03 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden #eltchat Hello - looking forward to finding out what GD is! :)
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:03 P.M.
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I am in a car using mobile internet so excuse me if i vanish #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:03 P.M.
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The topic is How effective is guided discovery in the ELT classroom? Can it help promote learner autonomy in and out of class? #eltchat
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nickkiley
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4/4/2012
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2:04 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: I am in a car using mobile internet so excuse me if i vanish #eltchat > I hope you're not driving...
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:04 P.M.
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@bealer81 Actually please mention it am looking forward to seeing how D and GD go together #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:04 P.M.
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RT @BobK99: @Shaunwilden #eltchat Hello - looking forward to finding out what GD is! :)
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:04 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: I am in a car using mobile internet so excuse me if i vanish #eltchat> That's dedication to #ELTchat!!!!!
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:05 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: So shal we try to define "guided discovery" - What do you understand by the term? #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:05 P.M.
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So shal we try to define "guided discovery" - What do you understand by the term? #ELTchat
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:05 P.M.
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So who actually uses guided discovery? #eltchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:05 P.M.
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RT @BobK99 @Shaunwilden #eltchat Hello - looking forward to finding out what GD is! :) can we not shorten it to GD I'll get confused :-)
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:06 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Erm guiding the sts to discover ;-) #eltchat > yes but what?
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nickkiley
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4/4/2012
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2:06 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Erm guiding the sts to discover ;-) #eltchat > Damn - beat me to it... ;-)
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:06 P.M.
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@Marisa_C Erm guiding the sts to discover ;-) #eltchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:07 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Erm guiding the sts to discover ;-) #eltchat > yes but what? Rules meaning how and what to learn
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:07 P.M.
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@ManosSY Hello Mano welcome #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:07 P.M.
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Here is a working definition from wikipedia #ELTchat http://t.co/jRcCHr1e
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:07 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Erm guiding the sts to discover ;-) #eltchat chat over?
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esolcourses
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4/4/2012
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2:08 P.M.
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RT @bealer81: So who actually uses guided discovery? #eltchat ] I use it a lot. Esp. for grammar, supplemented with help if necessary
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:08 P.M.
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@Marisa_C Well i used it a lot as part of inductive grammar appoach #eltchat
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PinoyEduTreker
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4/4/2012
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2:08 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Here is a working definition from wikipedia #ELTchat http://t.co/jRcCHr1e
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:08 P.M.
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#eltchat hi everyone
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:09 P.M.
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@esolcourses So the teacher's help / guided questioning or LA tasks help towards guided discover #eltchat
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wellmichelle
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4/4/2012
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2:09 P.M.
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Guided Discovery: students uncovering the rules and structures to the language themselves, but with teacher support #ELTchat
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:09 P.M.
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Talking about making the sts work harder in the last Eltchat. Surely this is the way. Problem solving, a sense of achievement. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:09 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Well i used it a lot as part of inductive grammar appoach #eltchat > so no rule giving but rule discovery
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:10 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Hello and welcome to #ELTchat - we are going to be talking about Guided discovery
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:10 P.M.
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RT @esolcourses RT @bealer81: So who uses guided discovery? #eltchat I use it. supplemented with help > isn't the help the guided but
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esolcourses
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4/4/2012
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2:10 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: @esolcourses So the teacher's help / guided questioning or LA tasks help towards guided discover #eltchat ] yep. Would say so
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:10 P.M.
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RT @nickkiley: #eltchat A stronger version of eliciting? With the quetions written down on a worksheet
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:10 P.M.
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RT @bealer81: Talking about making the sts work harder in the last Eltchat.Surely thithe way.Problem solving, sense of achievement. #eltchat
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nickkiley
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4/4/2012
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2:10 P.M.
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#eltchat A stronger version of eliciting?
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:10 P.M.
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@Marisa_C Aye thats about it, let them work it out, following up say from a dictogloss #eltchat
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BobK99
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4/4/2012
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2:10 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: .... wikipedia #ELTchat http://t.co/WallVGI8 >That def - Disc. Learning. Is Guided Disc. an attempt to make it less anarchic?
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michaelegriffin
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4/4/2012
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2:10 P.M.
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What is guided discovery? http://t.co/1xvcSzKM #ELTchat I think i'd agree with @thornburyscott 's friend that the term is used quite freely
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:11 P.M.
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RT @hartle: #eltchat I often use it with a text and the grammar related guided discovery questions refer learners back to context meaning anfìd form
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:11 P.M.
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@wellmichelle Really like your definition! #ELTChat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:11 P.M.
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#eltchat I often use it with a text and the grammar related guided discovery questions refer learners back to context meaning anfìd form
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Marie_Sanako
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4/4/2012
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2:11 P.M.
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Hello all - sorry bit late #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:11 P.M.
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@ShellTerrell Hi there #ELTchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:11 P.M.
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RT @esolcourses: RT @bealer81: So who actually uses guided discovery? #eltchat ] I use it a lot. Esp. for grammar, supplemented with help if necessary
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:11 P.M.
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@reasons4 the guided 'but' no, the guided 'bit' yes #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:12 P.M.
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But learners need to be trained to be led to sensible problem solving strategies - what do you think? #Eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:12 P.M.
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RT @nickkiley: #eltchat Might students feel the teacher is abdicating responsibility, in some contexts? - gd point need training of sts
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:12 P.M.
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RT @hartle: #eltchat I often use it with a text and the grammar related guided discovery questions refer learners back to context meaning anfìd form
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:12 P.M.
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Good question! RT @nickkiley: #eltchat Might students feel the teacher is abdicating responsibility, in some contexts?
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esolcourses
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4/4/2012
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2:12 P.M.
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@reasons4 think guidance is the ideal, but IME, learners sometimes get stuck & need more explicit instruction #ELTChat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:12 P.M.
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Relating to vocabulary guessing - the skill is often called contextual guessowrk or deducing meaning from surrounding context #ELTchat
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nickkiley
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4/4/2012
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2:12 P.M.
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#eltchat Might students feel the teacher is abdicating responsibility, in some contexts?
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nickkiley
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4/4/2012
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2:13 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: #eltchat Need training of sts > So, could become less and less 'guided', over time
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:13 P.M.
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RT @nickkiley: #eltchat Might students feel the teacher is abdicating responsibility...? not if teacher is there giving constructive support
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:13 P.M.
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RT @nickkiley #eltchat Might students feel the teacher is abdicating responsibility, in some contexts? Agreed
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BobK99
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4/4/2012
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2:13 P.M.
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RT @ShellTerrell: @wellmichelle Really like your definition! #ELTChat > me too Thx :)
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:14 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: But learners need to be trained to be led to sensible problem solving strategies - what do you think? #Eltchat Agreed
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:14 P.M.
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RT @esolcourses but IME, learners sometimes get stuck & need more explicit instruction #ELTChat > that's fine can't flog a dead horse
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:14 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: @ShellTerrell can't think of specific lessons - all lessons should include an element of GD #ELTChat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:14 P.M.
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@nickkiley well I guess so, you mean that they work out how to guide themselves, so turns more into helping them notice? #eltchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:14 P.M.
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RT @ShellTerrell: What specific lessons have you done in your classroom that are examples of guided discovery? #ELTChat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:14 P.M.
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@ShellTerrell can't think of specific lessons - all lessons should include an element of GD #ELTChat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:14 P.M.
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RT @esolcourses: @reasons4 ...learners sometimes get stuck & need more explicit instruction #ELTChat Learners need space to experiment too
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:14 P.M.
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RT @nickkiley #eltchat Might students feel the teacher is abdicating responsibility, in some contexts?
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:14 P.M.
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@hartle Agree- the 'guided' bit is important for ss not to feel too abandoned! #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:14 P.M.
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What specific lessons have you done in your classroom that are examples of guided discovery? #ELTChat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:15 P.M.
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@Marisa_C @ShellTerrell Wouldnt you say it is more systems than skills appropriate? #eltchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:15 P.M.
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RT @hartle: RT @Marisa_C: But learners need to be trained to be led to sensible problem solving strategies - what do you think? #Eltchat Agreed
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:16 P.M.
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@nickkiley agreed like standing by if they have to make a phone call etc.. #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:16 P.M.
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@reasons4 @nickkiley Hmm do you think so? of course sts have their preferred approaches but all should be open to sth new? #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:16 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden yes agreed but vocab contextual guesswork a microskill of reading #eltchat
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Marie_Sanako
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4/4/2012
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2:16 P.M.
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IME the guiding bit is important, but the success felt by Ss when they have worked it out is greater than if just shown or told #eltchat
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:16 P.M.
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@reasons4 def agree abt flogging ded horse- sumthing CELTA trainees cn tend towards. abt experience, sensitivity & asking the rt qs #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:16 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Here is a working definition from wikipedia #ELTchat http://t.co/jRcCHr1e
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:16 P.M.
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@Marisa_C Yes but specific examples would be really helpful for teachers new to guided discovery. So they can say "ah!" I do that #Eltchat
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nickkiley
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4/4/2012
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2:16 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden #eltchat I suppose, so yes - guiding them to noticing then slowly removing the support
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:17 P.M.
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What is an ex of questions that you've used to lead the student to discovery of the grammar or voc (For example)? #ELTChat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:17 P.M.
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RT @JoeMcVeigh: What are advantages of guided discovery over other teaching methods? #ELTchat > Plus - is there research to prove point?
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:17 P.M.
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@JoeMcVeigh #eltchat One advantage is that you create awareness that there is something they need to find out
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:17 P.M.
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RT @JoeMcVeigh: What are advantages of guided discovery over other teaching methods? #ELTchat
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JosetteLB
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4/4/2012
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2:17 P.M.
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@michaelegriffin Can you say more about these puzzles? (lurking as I work away at emails) #ELTchat
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michaelegriffin
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4/4/2012
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2:17 P.M.
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@hartle Training as well as seeing that they now know (or have a higher awareness) of something they didn't before #ELTchat
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esolcourses
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4/4/2012
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2:17 P.M.
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RT @JoeMcVeigh: What are advantages of guided discovery over other teaching methods? #ELTchat
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JoeMcVeigh
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4/4/2012
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2:17 P.M.
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What are advantages of guided discovery over other teaching methods? #ELTchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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Thanks! RT @Marisa_C: TIme lines are typical examples of GD - T shows two or three and Ss say which one fits language sample #ELTChat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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@ShellTerrell Well usually ?s that get them to notice, identify then work out meaning and form #eltchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha def agree abt flogging ded horse- sumthing trainees cn tend towards. abt experience, sensitivity askthe rt qs #eltchat yep
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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@hartle Thanks Sharon! #ELTChat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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@ShellTerrell TIme lines are typical examples of GD - T shows two or three and Ss say which one fits language sample #ELTChat
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nickkiley
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4/4/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: @JoeMcVeigh #eltchat you create awareness that there is something they need to find out > & that they can
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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RT @hartle: #Eltchat here is an example of modals for B1 that we did. Scroll down to fishdiagram then look at modality doc http://t.co/QsYheDWV
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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#Eltchat here is an example of modals for B1 that we did. Scroll down to fishdiagram then look at modality doc http://t.co/QsYheDWV
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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@JoeMcVeigh I'd say it involves sts more so more likely to be memorable #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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RT @JoeMcVeigh: What are advantages of guided discovery over other teaching methods? #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:19 P.M.
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Some newer CBs included T/F statement abt meaning form function use of new language #ELTchat Ss work out which is which
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:19 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @ShellTerrell Well usually ?s that get them to notice, identify then work out meaning and form #eltchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:19 P.M.
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RT @JoeMcVeigh: What are advantages of guided discovery over other teaching methods? #ELTchat Working things out yourself is more momorable
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BobK99
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4/4/2012
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2:19 P.M.
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RT @JoeMcVeigh: What are advantages of guided discovery over other teaching methods? #ELTchat >Doesn't best prac(teachng) always inv. Gui D?
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:19 P.M.
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RT @wellmichelle: Advantages: promote learner curiosity, making them aware that they are capable of discovery #ELTchat
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wellmichelle
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4/4/2012
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2:19 P.M.
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Advantages: promote learner curiosity, making them aware that they are capable of discovery #ELTchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:19 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden yes agreed but vocab contextual guesswork a microskill of reading #eltchat agree
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:19 P.M.
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RT @ShellTerrell What specific lessons have u done in class that are examples of GD? This is the problem. I can't find any. #ELTChat
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:20 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: sum newer CBs included T/F statement abt meaning form fcn use of new language #ELTchat Ss work out which is which -Gd eg
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:20 P.M.
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@Marisa_C True but I still think editiors prefer coursebooks to be more deductive in their approach #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:20 P.M.
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RT @wellmichelle: Advantages: promote learner curiosity, making them aware that they are capable of discovery #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:20 P.M.
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@theteacherjames This is the vocabulary of the process oriented teacher - no? #eltchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:20 P.M.
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RT @wellmichelle: Advantages: promote learner curiosity, making them aware that they are capable of discovery #ELTchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:20 P.M.
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Strong advantage of guided discovery is it empowers the learner & walks them thru the thinking process so they can do it w/o tchr #eltchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:20 P.M.
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@bealer81 HI there lovely to see you :-) I think it could well be moments in your lesson which it this not nec. the whole lesson #eltchat
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:20 P.M.
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@bealer81 #eltchat Tends 2 B watered dn in published material bcos cnt write whole series of questions on page w/out looking a bit odd.
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esolcourses
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4/4/2012
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2:20 P.M.
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RT @wellmichelle: Advantages: promote learner curiosity, making them aware that they are capable of discovery #ELTchat
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AlexSWalsh
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4/4/2012
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2:20 P.M.
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#eltchat I also think skills involved with guided discovery can lead to helping Ss discovering more outside of class
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:20 P.M.
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Some verbs I'm noticing here: noticing, interpreting, exploring, guiding, training, helping, creating. All sounds good to me! #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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RT @Marie_Sanako: RT @AlexSWalsh: #eltchat I also think skills involved with guided discovery can lead to helping Ss discovering more outside of class -> yes!
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nickkiley
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4/4/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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#eltchat As a teacher becomes more experienced, GD becomes more integrated into lessons, rather than an explicit approach?
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Marie_Sanako
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4/4/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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RT @AlexSWalsh: #eltchat I also think skills involved with guided discovery can lead to helping Ss discovering more outside of class -> yes!
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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@Marisa_C Sorry, please explain what you mean by "process oriented" for me. #eltchat
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michaelegriffin
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4/4/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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@rliberni Yes! and maybe help them see where some gaps/cloudiness in their knowledge might exist #ELTchat
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esolcourses
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4/4/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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RT @ShellTerrell: Strong advantage of guided discovery is it empowers s's & walks them thru thinking process so they can do it solo #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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Substitution tables and rule boxes in CBs are things to AVOID if doing guided discovery work #ELTchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C Some CBs included T/F statement abt muff of new language #ELTchat Ss work out which is which >int for example
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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RT @nickkiley: #eltchat As a teacher becomes more experienced, GD becomes more integrated into lessons...Well put :-)
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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RT @esolcourses: space to experiment is good. Teachers need to be able to judge when to step in, and when to let things be #eltchat
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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RT @nickkiley: #eltchat As a teacher becomes more experienced, GD becomes more integrated in2 lessons, rather than an explicit approach? Yes
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esolcourses
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4/4/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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RT @hartle: #Eltchat here is an example of modals for B1 that we did. Scroll down to fishdiagram & look at modality doc http://t.co/7bZfKioj
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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@theteacherjames Process focus = interested in HOW to help Ss get it right vs Product = T just interested in right answer #eltchat
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JoeMcVeigh
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4/4/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C True but I still think editiors prefer coursebooks to be more deductive in their approach #eltchat >> I agree.
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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Yes! RT @AlexSWalsh: #eltchat I also think skills involved with guided discovery can lead to helping Ss discovering more outside of class
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden Agree eds prefer more inductive- but 2B fair duz usually work better on printed page. Compromise as @Marisa_C eg is gd #eltchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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#Eltchat also use inductive approaches a lot in teacher training. Finding out info, ebquests, ideas then discussing and experimenting
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Substitution tables and rule boxes in CBs are things to AVOID if doing guided discovery work #ELTchat
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:23 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @teflerinha Yes i agree so tchrs need to learn how to change a cbk page to be more inductive #eltchat- Yes, definitely!
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:23 P.M.
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@Marisa_C Thanks. Yes, completely agree. Don't have much knowledge of this term (guided discovery) so I'm learning here! #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:23 P.M.
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What are GD questions -> RT @Shaunwilden: usually ?s that get them to notice, identify then work out meaning and form #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:23 P.M.
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@teflerinha Yes i agree so tchrs need to learn how to change a cbk page to be more inductive #eltchat
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JosetteLB
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4/4/2012
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2:23 P.M.
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@michaelegriffin Nice. Thank you. Put it in context and make your own meaning #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:24 P.M.
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Most rule based stuff in books CAN be turned into guided discovery #Eltchat
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nickkiley
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4/4/2012
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2:24 P.M.
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@hartle @teflerinha #eltchat Can it be effectively incorporated into TD, without just saying "Use more GD"?
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:24 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C Sub tables and rule box are things to AVOID if doing gdwork #ELTchat disagree sts knowing where to find answers is a good thing
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:24 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: RT @Shaunwilden: @teflerinha Yes i agree so tchrs need to learn how to change a cbk page to be more inductive #eltchat- Yes, definitely!
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:24 P.M.
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#Eltchat 1 natural procedure 4 me is GD then experimentation then more specific teaching slots on problem areas + more experimentation
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:25 P.M.
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RT @ShellTerrell: One of my favorite lessons by @cheimi10 is great ex of guided discovery http://t.co/iwiWRSe6 #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:25 P.M.
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RT @michaelegriffin: RT @Marisa_C: Most rule based stuff in books CAN be turned into guided discovery #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:25 P.M.
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RT @hartle: #Eltchat 1 natural procedure 4 me is GD then experimentation then more specific teaching slots on problem areas + more experimentation
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michaelegriffin
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4/4/2012
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2:25 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Most rule based stuff in books CAN be turned into guided discovery #ELTchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:25 P.M.
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One of my favorite lessons by @cheimi10 is great ex of guided discovery http://t.co/FW9ZD9xM #eltchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:25 P.M.
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#Eltchat rules and sub boxes provide useful starting point especially for intermediate learners, then they can blossom from there
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:25 P.M.
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@reasons4 I am talking about stage when ss discovering - later may be ok to use as reference #ELTchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:25 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @teflerinha Yes i agree so tchrs need to learn how to change a cbk page to be more inductive #eltchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:25 P.M.
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@esolcourses I agree this is especially true when doing live tasks with business stds or 1:1 I think you need to gauge it right #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:26 P.M.
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@BobK99 indeed! #ELTchat
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BobK99
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4/4/2012
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2:26 P.M.
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RT @michaelegriffin: RT @Marisa_C: Most rule based stuff in books CAN be turned into guided discovery #ELTchat > and SHOULD BE, I reckon.
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:26 P.M.
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I imagine once the Ls have learnt how to discover they can set tasks for each other. Peer teaching. Would love to explore further #eltchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:26 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Most rule based stuff in books CAN be turned into guided discovery #Eltchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:26 P.M.
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RT @nickkiley: @hartle @teflerinha #eltchat Can it be effectively incorporated into TD, without just saying "Use more GD"?
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:27 P.M.
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RT @AlexSWalsh: #eltchat why not have Ss make the rule box for them to ref at a later data as part of the guided discovery? > yes
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:27 P.M.
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RT @AlexSWalsh: #eltchat why not have Ss make the rule box for them to ref at a later data as part of the guided discovery? > yes
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:27 P.M.
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RT @BobK99: RT @michaelegriffin: RT @Marisa_C: Most rule based stuff in books CAN be turned into guided discovery #ELTchat > and SHOULD BE, I reckon.
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:27 P.M.
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@reasons4 exactly Subst table with gaps plus a text or dialogue can be a guided discovery activity #ELTchat
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AlexSWalsh
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4/4/2012
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2:27 P.M.
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#eltchat why not have Ss make the rule box for them to ref at a later data as part of the guided discovery?
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:27 P.M.
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@BobK99 @michaelegriffin @Marisa_C Well 'should be' but some sts will prefer it as it is in cbk #eltchat
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silverteacher
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4/4/2012
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2:27 P.M.
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@ShellTerrell @cheimi10 only works with smaller groups though #eltchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:27 P.M.
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RT @ShellTerrell: One of my favorite lessons by @cheimi10 is great ex of guided discovery http://t.co/FW9ZD9xM #eltchat
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nickkiley
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4/4/2012
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2:27 P.M.
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RT @bealer81: once the Ls have learnt how to discover they can set tasks for each other. #eltchat > Interesting idea, yes
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:27 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C talking abu stage when ss discovering - later may be ok to use as ref #ELTchat isn't part of idsoveribg knowing where to look?
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:28 P.M.
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Yes! RT @Marisa_C: Most rule based stuff in books CAN be turned into guided discovery #Eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:28 P.M.
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GD teaches learners how 2 craft auestions about what they r interested in so they get an idea of where to look & what to look for #ELTChat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:28 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: @reasons4 exactly Subst table with gaps plus a text or dialogue can be a guided discovery activity #ELTchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:29 P.M.
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@silverteacher You can break into groups of 5 & each one has a drawing to raise questions about with a group leader #ELTChat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:29 P.M.
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RT @reasons4: #eltchat I think the day I discovered I could formulated a good concept check question was the day I felt I was really a teacher
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:29 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @ShellTerrell Cratfting questions is indeed a skill and one that needs more time in school TD programs #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:29 P.M.
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@ShellTerrell Cratfting questions is indeed a skill and one that needs more time in school TD programs #eltchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:29 P.M.
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#eltchat I think the day I discovered I could formulated a good concept check question was the day I felt I was really a teacher
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:29 P.M.
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RT @ShellTerrell: One of my favorite lessons by @cheimi10 is great ex of guided discovery http://t.co/FW9ZD9xM #eltchat
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daveclearycz
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4/4/2012
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2:30 P.M.
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RT @AlexSWalsh: #eltchat I also think skills involved with guided discovery can lead to helping Ss discovering more outside of class -agree
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aslibasarirunlu
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4/4/2012
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2:30 P.M.
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#ELTchat I try to make my students find the grammar rules: guess it is GD
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:30 P.M.
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Agree! RT @Shaunwilden: Cratfting questions is indeed a skill and one that needs more time in school TD programs #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:30 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Get the ss to make the time lines #eltchat (after of course they've seen some examples by T)
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:30 P.M.
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Get the ss to make the time lines #eltchat (after of course they've seen some examples by T)
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esolcourses
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4/4/2012
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2:30 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @ShellTerrell Cratfting questions is indeed a skill and one that needs more time in school TD programs #eltchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:31 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @aslibasarirunlu: #ELTchat I try to make my students find the grammar rules: guess it is GD > it is yes
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BobK99
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4/4/2012
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2:31 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @ShellTerrell Crafting qns is a skill + one that needs more time in school TD programs #eltchat - WISH I cd do it better:)
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:31 P.M.
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RT @aslibasarirunlu: #ELTchat I try to make my students find the grammar rules: guess it is GD > it is yes
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:32 P.M.
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@BobK99 I think we all do - though I do get pleasure from the crap CCQs that new tchers come out with :) #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:32 P.M.
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RT @hartle: #Eltchat Suppose vocabulary matching "highlighted items" in texts t "defnitions" is also GD and some CBs are good at this. >yes
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silverteacher
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4/4/2012
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2:32 P.M.
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@ShellTerrell YES space needed as well. See, ask and learn, scientific method used by Bachelard applied to language learning #ELTchat
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nickkiley
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4/4/2012
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2:32 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C time lines long time since I've heard anyone mention them :-) #eltchat >Do you advocate their use?
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:32 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: Cratfting questions needs more time in school TD programs #eltchat you can't teach it, just guide and let them discover
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:32 P.M.
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#Eltchat Suppose vocabulary matching "highlighted items" in texts t "defnitions" is also GD and some CBs are good at this. Again needs care
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:32 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden happy to remind you of the shadows of your past :-D #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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Gr8 idea! RT @silverteacher: See, ask & learn, scientific method used by Bachelard applied to language learning #ELTchat
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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#eltchat interrupted by three phone calls! Lost now!
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daveclearycz
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4/4/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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@Marisa_C isn't product more about analyzing language so sts can create own version GD still possible #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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@nickkiley @Marisa_C They have their place I would use them in class though they are not wholly effective on their own #eltchat
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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By teaching them how to discover we open their eyes to their potential. They will want to continue discovering outside the class #eltchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C time lines long time since I've heard anyone mention them :-) #eltchat except in a twitter sense i love time line
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padgets
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4/4/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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#eltchat morning everybody! Hope you all are well..sleepy I do many inquiry activities. Great discovery opportunities
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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A few questioning techniques pinned here http://t.co/QG2Af4kf #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:34 P.M.
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@teflerinha Still discussing gd :-) What do you think of timelines - in the none social networking sense #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:34 P.M.
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@daveclearycz product implies t interested in st output basically - may imply a 'teacher-tell-all" stance #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:34 P.M.
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RT @ShellTerrell: A few questioning techniques pinned here http://t.co/QG2Af4kf #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:35 P.M.
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We'd take learners on field obs w field experts & Ss would hunt for artifacts & come up w questions. They liked being w a scientist #ELTChat
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:35 P.M.
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RT @BobK99: RT @Shaunwilden: @ShellTerrell Agree crafting questions is a skill- needs practice & V IMP empathy 4 ss perspective #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:35 P.M.
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@ShellTerrell @silverteacher We all have a lot to learn from the scientific method. #ELTchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:35 P.M.
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RT @ShellTerrell: A few questioning techniques pinned here http://t.co/TI0hMnmN #eltchat Nice! Like the list of questions :-)
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:35 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden time lines only one of many tools/activs - quite limited if only used on their own #eltchat
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silverteacher
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4/4/2012
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2:35 P.M.
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explore the image, ask and learn: entirely customizable http://t.co/zt8Avl6V #ELTchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:35 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha #eltchat interrupted by three phone calls! Lost now! Don't worry so am I? And I've been here all along
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nancyrubin
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4/4/2012
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2:35 P.M.
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RT @ShellTerrell: A few questioning techniques pinned here http://t.co/QG2Af4kf #eltchat
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wellmichelle
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4/4/2012
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2:35 P.M.
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Encouraging ss to discover new/interesting language chunks in texts makes them more aware of language, mayb its GB #ELTchat
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nickkiley
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4/4/2012
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2:35 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: #eltchat interrupted by three phone calls! Lost now! > We could set you some GD questions about this chat ;-)
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:36 P.M.
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@hartle Thanks! :) #eltchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:36 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: #eltchat interrupted by three phone calls! Lost now! Don't worry... most of us are :-)
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:36 P.M.
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RT @theteacherjames: @ShellTerrell @silverteacher We all have a lot to learn from the scientific method. #ELTchat
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:36 P.M.
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@reasons4 :D !#eltchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:36 P.M.
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RT @hartle: RT @ShellTerrell: A few questioning techniques pinned here http://t.co/TI0hMnmN #eltchat Nice! Like the list of questions :-)
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:37 P.M.
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RT @nickkiley: RT @teflerinha: #eltchat interrupted...some GD questions about this chat ;-) like: where can you find gd questions?
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:37 P.M.
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RT @reasons4: RT @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden time lines - quite limited if only used on their own #eltchat but alongside a concept check question or 2 + pow
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:37 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden time lines - quite limited if only used on their own #eltchat but alongside a concept check question or 2 + pow
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daveclearycz
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4/4/2012
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2:37 P.M.
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@Marisa_C Ok yes, but doesnt have 2 b Look and learn from text w/o stated rules still possible, but agree product can be excuse #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:37 P.M.
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RT @theteacherjames: We all have a lot to learn from the scientific method. #ELTchat
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:37 P.M.
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@nickkiley #eltchat Ah, boot on other foot ;)
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:38 P.M.
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@ShellTerrell bye Shelly & thanks :-) #eltchat
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:38 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: @hartle good CCQ;s in new book by @jimscriv http://t.co/Zi4ckMtw Teaching English Grammar #eltchat Yes, v helpful
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:38 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: @hartle good CCQ;s in new book by @jimscriv Teaching English Grammar http://t.co/Zi4ckMtw #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:38 P.M.
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Gotta jet off but leave you in good hands with @Marisa_C @rliberni @Shaunwilden Thanks for another exhilarating #ELTChat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:38 P.M.
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I can take my ss into the 'field' to do certain tasks (in shops, restaurants etc..) it's scary but the rewards are amazing #eltchat
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jenverschoor
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4/4/2012
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2:38 P.M.
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RT @theteacherjames: @ShellTerrell @silverteacher We all have a lot to learn from the scientific method. #ELTchat> I agree!
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:38 P.M.
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@hartle good CCQ;s in new book by @jimscriv How to teach grammar #eltchat
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silverteacher
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4/4/2012
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2:38 P.M.
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@ShellTerrell AGREE require a total knowledge of the whole sequence. The teacher needs to know where he is going. Plan beforehand. #eltchat
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nickkiley
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4/4/2012
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2:38 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: What do you think of timelines #eltchat >They help to visualise an abstract concept, if you're all on same page
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:38 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden #eltchat I like timelines, but I think danger of expecting all ss to understand abstract representations of time
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:39 P.M.
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@teflerinha @nickkiley yes it took me y surprise thye first time i realised not all my sts saw time that way #eltchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:39 P.M.
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RT @bealer81: RT @teflerinha @Shaunwilden #eltchat I like timelines, but I think danger of expecting all ss to understand> make human timelines
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nickkiley
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4/4/2012
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2:39 P.M.
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RT @hartle: #eltchat interrupted...some GD questions about this chat ;-) like: where can you find gd questions? > Gd 1: Got the answer yet?
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:39 P.M.
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Have we decided the best way to do GD in class ? We talked about what it is &things it can inc but what would we tell a new tcher?#eltchat
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:39 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha @Shaunwilden #eltchat I like timelines, but I think danger of expecting all ss to understand> make human timelines
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:40 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @bealer81 Human time lines is a super activity - always found it effective #eltchat
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:40 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden #eltchat Tell teachers 2 try & find out wht ss know & dont know rather than assuming & teaching everything (or nothing)?
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:40 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @teflerinha @nickkiley yes it took me y surprise thye first time i realised not all my sts saw time that way #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:40 P.M.
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@bealer81 Human time lines is a super activity - always found it effective #eltchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:40 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: @hartle good CCQ;s in new book by @jimscriv How to teach grammar #eltchat A gd student!! :-)
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:40 P.M.
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RT @ShellTerrell Gotta jet off but leave you in good hands with @Marisa_C @rliberni @Shaunwilden Thanks for another #ELTChat Nooo!!!
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:40 P.M.
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@bealer81 I use timelines too but they can be confusing for some - true #eltchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:40 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha @Shaunwilden #eltchat I once had plans to build a 3d timeline based on the blue Peter adventcandle contraption. Coathangers
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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RT @bealer81: Ask the teacher how they worked out the grammar rule themselves. Break it into chunks and work backwards to sequence. #eltchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: @Shaunwilden #eltchat Tell teachers 2 try & find out wht ss know & dont know rather than assuming & teaching everything (or nothing)?
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: and what are 'human lines" can u explain pls? #eltchat
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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Ask the teacher how they worked out the grammar rule themselves. Break it into chunks and work backwards to sequence. #eltchat
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michaelegriffin
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4/4/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: Tell teachers 2 try & find out wht ss know & dont know rather than assuming & teaching everything (or nothing)? #ELTchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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@teflerinha aha concept questions :-) #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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and what are 'human lines" can u explain pls? #eltchat
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BobK99
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4/4/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @bealer81 Human time lines is a super activity - always found it effective #eltchat > Sounds fun :) Instrux?
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silverteacher
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4/4/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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cropped pictures, missing information, puzzle, riddles, always good GD material #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden As I understand it, it's more of a teaching philosophy than a method, even if there are techniques involved. Agree? #eltchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: @Shaunwilden #eltchat Tell teachers 2 try & find out wht ss know & dont know rather than assuming & teaching everything (or nothing)?
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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@reasons4 lost me with ur last tweet #eltchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:42 P.M.
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#Eltchat This was my GD for my Interactive Fair for Harrogate Iatefl 2010. Participants explore the wiki http://t.co/QsYheDWV
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:42 P.M.
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@theteacherjames yes but i think you can instill a structure to help - e.g. model of a text, questions for GD, CCQs, application #eltchat
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esolcourses
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4/4/2012
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2:42 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: Tell teachers 2 try & find out wht ss know & dont know rather than assuming & teaching everything (or nothing)? #ELTchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:42 P.M.
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RT @theonlyalex: @JoeMcVeigh #ELTChat Guided Discovery mimicks brain's natural learning rhythms &encourages critical thinking.
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theonlyalex
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4/4/2012
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2:42 P.M.
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@JoeMcVeigh #ELTChat Guided Discovery mimicks brain's natural learning rhythms &encourages critical thinking.
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:43 P.M.
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So how close is the relationship between GD and critical thinking? #eltchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:43 P.M.
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RT @reasons4: RT @teflerinha @Shaunwilden #eltchat I once had plans to build a 3d timeline based on the blue Peter.. Ingenious ;-)
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kevchanwow
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4/4/2012
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2:43 P.M.
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Guided isn't the same as being tied to a leash and led. The materials can't be so directed as to have only 1 answer. #ELTchat
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:43 P.M.
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RT @theteacherjames @Shaunwilden As I understand it, it's more of a teaching philosophy than a method. Sounds like Dogme #eltchat #getin
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:43 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C lost me with ur last tweet #eltchat donj't worry I lost me too hence it never came to fruition. I'll sketch it up one day :-)
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:43 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden okay, cheers. #learning #eltchat
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:43 P.M.
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@rliberni #eltchat luv c qs myself- but another thing that ss new 2 them may find confusing (Why is she asking us when she lived in Poland?)
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:44 P.M.
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RT @rliberni: RT @theteacherjames: So how close is the relationship between GD and critical thinking? #eltchat CT reQUIRED to do GD
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:44 P.M.
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@BobK99 I used stand sts up and use a chair to represent now then sts aligned themselves according to the aspect being checked #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:44 P.M.
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@bealer81 @Shaunwilden You had to say it! You'll set him off now, look out... #eltchat #getin #butyoureright #thedword
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:44 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: @bealer81 Discovery learning part of inquiry based learning - more her http://t.co/aZilNEgH #eltchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:44 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @bealer81 Human time lines is a super activity - always found it effective #eltchat How does that work?
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:44 P.M.
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@bealer81 Discovery learning part of inquiry based learning - more her http://t.co/aZilNEgH #eltchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:44 P.M.
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RT @theteacherjames: So how close is the relationship between GD and critical thinking? #eltchat good question!
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:44 P.M.
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@hartle #eltchat Now THAT I would like to see! ;)
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esolcourses
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4/4/2012
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2:44 P.M.
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RT @kevchanwow Guided isn't the same as being tied to a leash and led. The materials can't be so directed as to have only 1 answer #ELTchat
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BobK99
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4/4/2012
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2:44 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: @Shaunwilden #eltchat T... assuming & teaching everything (or nothing)? > Guilty, yer 'onner! :)
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:45 P.M.
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@daveclearycz Thanks, agreed. #eltchat
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silverteacher
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4/4/2012
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2:45 P.M.
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@esolcourses @kevchanwow a mixture of preparing, and adapting to the pupils. Teach with the flow. No dogs in sight! #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:45 P.M.
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@Marisa_C That was my feeling. makes me a fan! #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:45 P.M.
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@BobK99 i think i came across it in article in ETP many years ago, will search for it, if not will blog it #eltchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:45 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha @hartle #eltchat Now THAT I would like to see! ;) that was me not @hartle :-)
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:45 P.M.
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RT @hartle: #Eltchat This was my GD for my Interactive Fair for Harrogate Iatefl 2010. Participants explore the wiki http://t.co/QsYheDWV
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:45 P.M.
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RT @theteacherjames So how close is the relationship between GD and critical thinking? #eltchat practically holding hands, surely?
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daveclearycz
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4/4/2012
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2:45 P.M.
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@theteacherjames Think that GD is an aspect of CT but not vice versa #eltchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:46 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C RT @rliberni: RT @theteacherjames: how close is the relationship between GD and CT? #eltchat both require asking the right qs
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:46 P.M.
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@bealer81 if not closer... #eltchat
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michaelegriffin
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4/4/2012
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2:46 P.M.
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MT @kevchanwow It's a fine line between guided/led. Providing materials which can only have 1 answer isn't guided #ELTchat >Intrsting point
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:46 P.M.
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@teflerinha true but when these things become part of your approach (learner training) then they work better #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:46 P.M.
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@theteacherjames @bealer81 no i said at the starts I think D and GD can go together, just D is good teaching nothing more ;-) #eltchat
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:46 P.M.
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@reasons4 Told you I was confused... #eltchat
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BobK99
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4/4/2012
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2:46 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden #eltchat Thanks.
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daveclearycz
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4/4/2012
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2:47 P.M.
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RT @reasons4: how close is the relationship between GD and CT? #eltchat both require asking the right qs - so how do we teach teachers that?
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:47 P.M.
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RT @michaelegriffin: @kevchanwow To my mind the guidance could be as simple as how plurals are usually formed #ELTchat
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hanbrowes
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4/4/2012
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2:47 P.M.
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RT @wellmichelle: Advantages: promote learner curiosity, making them aware that they are capable of discovery #ELTchat
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:47 P.M.
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RT @aslibasarirunlu: @esolcourses ths is wht I realize vry common unfortunately, we make a lot of assumptions abt students Agreed #eltchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:47 P.M.
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RT @reasons4: RT @teflerinha @hartle #eltchat Now THAT I would like to see! ;) that was me not @hartle :-) Getting mixed up :-(( Help
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:47 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha @reasons4 Told you I was confused... #eltchat and me :-)
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:47 P.M.
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@hartle I made mine wear tense hats and gave action or verb signs and got them to move around. TPR awesome #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:47 P.M.
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@reasons4 And can that be the same question? #eltchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:47 P.M.
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RT @bealer81: RT @theteacherjames So how close is the relationship between GD and critical thinking? #eltchat practically holding hands, surely?
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michaelegriffin
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4/4/2012
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2:47 P.M.
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@kevchanwow To my mind the guidance could be as simple as how plurals are usually formed #ELTchat
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:47 P.M.
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RT @rliberni: @teflerinha tru but wen ths things become part of yr approach (learner training) then they work better #eltchat Yes, def agree
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:47 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden @bealer81 #notrisingtothebait #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:48 P.M.
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@aslibasarirunlu Sounds logical to me! #eltchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:48 P.M.
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RT @theteacherjames @reasons4 And can that be the same question? #eltchat depends.
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BobK99
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4/4/2012
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2:48 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @theteacherjames @bealer81 ..., just D is good teaching nothing more ;-) #eltchat > Amen to that!
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:48 P.M.
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Can grammar books be used in a guided discovery learning lesson? #ELTchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:48 P.M.
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RT @bealer81: @hartle I made mine wear tense hats and gave action or verb signs and got them to move around. TPR awesome #eltchat Sounds gd
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:48 P.M.
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RT @theteacherjames @bealer81 if not closer... #eltchat oh, the images!
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michaelegriffin
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4/4/2012
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2:48 P.M.
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@kevchanwow instead of guidance i mean...umm..destination. :) #ELTchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:48 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden @theteacherjames @bealer81 I think D and GD can go together, just D is good teaching nothing more ;-) #eltchat what's D?
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:48 P.M.
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RT @bealer81: @hartle I made mine wear tense hats and gave action or verb signs and got them to move around. TPR awesome #eltchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:49 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @reasons4 @theteacherjames @bealer81 its the word you cant use during #eltchat :-) (dogme)
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:49 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden dogme dogme dogme #eltchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:49 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Can grammar books be used in a guided discovery learning lesson? #ELTchat Depends on grammar book, I think
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:49 P.M.
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@Marisa_C why not I think they are a tool and you can adapt them any way you like IMO #eltchat
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esolcourses
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4/4/2012
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2:49 P.M.
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@teflerinha @aslibasarirunlu agree, too #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:49 P.M.
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@reasons4 @theteacherjames @bealer81 its the word you cant use during #eltchat :-) (dogme)
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daveclearycz
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4/4/2012
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2:49 P.M.
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@reasons4 D here is dogme #eltchat
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JeanneBernish
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4/4/2012
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2:49 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: @Shaunwilden #eltchat Tell teachers 2 try & find out wht ss know & dont know rather than assuming & teaching everything (or nothing)?
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:49 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Can grammar books be used in a guided discovery learning lesson? #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:50 P.M.
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@hartle Is it the grammar book itself or the activity you use it for? #ELTchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:50 P.M.
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RT @daveclearycz #eltchat - so how do we teach teachers that? Good question by asking the right questions ourselves :-)
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:50 P.M.
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RT @rliberni: @Marisa_C why not I think they are a tool and you can adapt them any way you like IMO #eltchat Agree
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:50 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden DOGME - now shoot me!! #eltchat
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daveclearycz
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4/4/2012
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2:50 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @reasons4 @theteacherjames @bealer81 its the word you cant use during #eltchat :-) (dogme) - oops too late, sorry
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden @reasons4 @theteacherjames @bealer81 its the word you cant use during #eltchat :-)so as I said elsewhere it should be B then
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michaelegriffin
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4/4/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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@rliberni @marisa_C I don't see why grammar books couldn't be used for GD.
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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Anyway back to GD :) #eltchat
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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@bealer81 #eltchat Don't you mean 'the Scottish play' ;)
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ELTExperiences
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4/4/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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I need a really good activity about Second Life for teenagers. Does anyone have a good lesson at all? #ELTChat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Right that's it you're both banned @rliberni ;-) > OK from now on Shaun sole moderator - byeeeeeeeeeee #ELTchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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RT @daveclearycz @reasons4 D here is dogme #eltchat surely that should be B then
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden :-( #eltchat
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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Dogme is the Macbeth of the ELT world #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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@daveclearycz @Shaunwilden @reasons4 @bealer81 But only when Shaun's not here, otherwise feel free to mention it liberally! #eltchat
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daveclearycz
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4/4/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden its my first active #eltchat, cut me some slack?
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ELTExperiences
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4/4/2012
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2:52 P.M.
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@bealer81 to #Dogme or not to #Dogme, that is the question. #ELTChat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:52 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Which teaching approached encourage GD ? #ELTchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:52 P.M.
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@Marisa_C Gr8 he only brought it on himself :-) *** #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:52 P.M.
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Which teaching approached encourage GD ? #ELTchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:52 P.M.
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RT @bealer81 Dogme is the Macbeth of the ELT world #eltchat disagree Macbeth is good
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:52 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: @hartle Is it the grammar book itself ... #ELTchat Some grammar bks have no context, so just reading rules.
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:52 P.M.
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RT @bealer81: Dogme is the Macbeth of the ELT world #eltchat
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yearinthelifeof
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4/4/2012
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2:52 P.M.
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@bealer81 Lots of power hungry people murdering willy nilly? #dogme #eltchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:52 P.M.
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RT @bealer81: Dogme is the Macbeth of the ELT world #eltchat Gr8 metaphor! so a ref word? #eltchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:53 P.M.
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RT @reasons4: RT @bealer81 Dogme is the Macbeth of the ELT world #eltchat disagree Macbeth is good NOW NOW!!
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daveclearycz
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4/4/2012
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2:53 P.M.
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Can GD be used with YLs? #eltchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:53 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C Which teaching approached encourage GD ? #ELTchat does it only have to be one? It is the teaching stage of any lesson.
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:53 P.M.
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RT @rliberni: @Marisa_C Silent Way!! #eltchat > yes More?
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:53 P.M.
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@hartle Yes but the t can provide the spoken and written context which can be matched up with right rules #ELTchat
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:53 P.M.
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#eltchat srsly, dont think GD esp 'Macbeth', as much more explicit teaching techniques could equally well B used, couldn't they?
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:53 P.M.
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@Marisa_C Silent Way!! #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:53 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Which teaching approached encourage GD ? #ELTchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:54 P.M.
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RT @daveclearycz Can GD be used with YLs? #eltchat yes :-)
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teflerinha
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4/4/2012
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2:54 P.M.
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#eltchat Now got mobile and landline going simultaneously..maybe some time.. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:54 P.M.
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@rliberni naaah #eltchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:54 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: @hartle Yes but the t can provide the spoken and written context which can be matched up with right rules #ELTchat True
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:54 P.M.
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@Marisa_C is this a quiz? #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:54 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden dogme dogme dogme #eltchat
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yearinthelifeof
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4/4/2012
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2:54 P.M.
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@ELTExperiences @bealer81 #dogme was the best of approaches, it was the worst of approaches #ELTchat Someone please tell me subj of chat!!!
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:54 P.M.
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RT @daveclearycz: Can GD be used with YLs? #eltchat I have used with teens
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:54 P.M.
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@rliberni hmmm not an approach m afraid #eltchat
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kevchanwow
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4/4/2012
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2:54 P.M.
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if you do the exercises first and let the students develop a personalized rule, you have GD through a grammar book. #ELTchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:54 P.M.
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@Marisa_C maybe Notional syllabuses #eltchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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RT @hartle RT @reasons4: RT @bealer81 Dogme is the Macbeth of the ELT world #eltchat disagree Macbeth is good NOW NOW!! :-) :-) :-)
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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@Marisa_C can be if you only teach how ppl say things p'haps a bit extreme #eltchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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#Eltchat haven't hear talk of Silent Way for years. Lost my voice last term and was forced to use it though , but cheated & used chat
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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RT @hartle RT @reasons4: RT @bealer81 Dogme is the Macbeth of the ELT world #eltchat disagree Macbeth is good NOW NOW!! > #twitterrage
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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RT @reasons4: RT @daveclearycz Can GD be used with YLs? #eltchat yes :-) > and double yes - but language of 'rules' different with YL;s
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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@Marisa_C Well I presume it came out of the cognitive approaches #eltchat
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daveclearycz
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4/4/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: RT @daveclearycz: Can GD be used with YLs? #eltchat I have used with teens - how young?
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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2:56 P.M.
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@daveclearycz czech 13/ 14 year olds #eltchat
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BobK99
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4/4/2012
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2:56 P.M.
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@ELTExperiences #ELTChat ABOUT 2nd Life? Wouldn't it be easier to do it IN 2nd Life (not that I cd tell you how!) :)
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:56 P.M.
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@Marisa_C true #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:56 P.M.
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@rliberni Communicative language teaching then? #eltchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:57 P.M.
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RT @rliberni: If Macbeth is the 'Scottish Play' what will Dogme (sorry) be? #eltchat the furry animal??
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daveclearycz
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4/4/2012
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2:57 P.M.
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RT @theteacherjames: @rliberni @Marisa_C I love a quiz, even when I don't know the answer! #eltchat - I am not sure of the question :-)
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:57 P.M.
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If Macbeth is the 'Scottish Play' what will Dogme (sorry) be? #eltchat
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nickkiley
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4/4/2012
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2:57 P.M.
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#eltchat Maybe T training & development could incorporate more GD to give me more time for these chats...?
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:57 P.M.
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Lexical approach as well claims to have 'noticing' language 'hypothesis formation' at its heart #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:57 P.M.
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@rliberni @Marisa_C I love a quiz, even when I don't know the answer! #eltchat
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hartle
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4/4/2012
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2:57 P.M.
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Have to go and teach now, but thanks for a fun chat as every :-) See you later #Eltchat
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:57 P.M.
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RT @reasons4 RT @daveclearycz Can GD be used with YLs? #eltchat yes :-) I think it would be grt for YLs. V rewarding and an element of comp
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daveclearycz
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4/4/2012
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2:57 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Well I presume it came out of the cognitive approaches #eltchat - or the Socrataric (sp?) method
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nickkiley
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4/4/2012
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2:58 P.M.
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Enjoyed this #eltchat, especially the #dogme deluge that hit @Shaunwilden when he stuck his head above parapet...
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:58 P.M.
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@hartle maybe 'the Shaun word' #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:58 P.M.
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@bealer81 lost in collocation :-D #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:58 P.M.
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THREE minutes to end of #ELTchat - famous last tweets please and declare yourself if you volunteer to do the summary!!!!
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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2:58 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C Lexical approach as well claims to have 'noticing' language 'hypothesis formation' at its heart #ELTchat wheres @lexicalleo
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:58 P.M.
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@theteacherjames just shout out random approaches some will hit the nail! #eltchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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2:58 P.M.
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RT @bealer81 RT @hartle RT @reasons4: Dogme is the Macbeth of the ELT world #eltchat disagree Macbeth is good NOW NOW!! > #twitterrage :-)
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yearinthelifeof
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4/4/2012
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2:59 P.M.
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I joined #ELTchat 20 mins ago and still have no idea what we're discussing today. Anyone???
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:59 P.M.
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@esolcourses we're getting really silly here i love it! #ELtchat #terriblepun #illgetmycoat
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daveclearycz
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4/4/2012
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2:59 P.M.
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Thanks all, my first participation in #eltchat, tried to move away from the D-word but ho-hum.
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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2:59 P.M.
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@theteacherjames I daren't say PPP but the last p might be? #eltchat
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esolcourses
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4/4/2012
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2:59 P.M.
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RT @ShellTerrell: Thanks to @Marisa_C @rliberni @Shaunwilden for guiding our discovery & learning in #ELTChat today
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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2:59 P.M.
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@theteacherjames :-D #unlikelytobecorrect #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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2:59 P.M.
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Thanks to @Marisa_C @rliberni @Shaunwilden for guiding our discovery & learning in #ELTChat today
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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2:59 P.M.
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@rliberni @Marisa_C Is it grammar translation? #unlikelytobecorrect #eltchat
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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3:00 P.M.
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RT @yearinthelifeof I joined #ELTchat 20 mins ago and still have no idea what we're discussing today. Anyone??? Guided discovery
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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3:00 P.M.
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RT @rliberni @theteacherjames I daren't say PPP but the last p might be? #eltchat or the second p even
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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3:00 P.M.
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RT @ShellTerrell: Thanks to @Marisa_C @rliberni @Shaunwilden for guiding our discovery & learning in #ELTChat today
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JoHart
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4/4/2012
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3:00 P.M.
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@rliberni the Baskerville hound perhaps? sorry I have a weird sense of humour #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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3:00 P.M.
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@nickkiley @Shaunwilden That's always my favourite bit of any #eltchat! #dogme
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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3:00 P.M.
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This was GD for me so thanks everyone and some gr8 links to explore sorry for the flippancy vers le fin :-( #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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3:00 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: @yearinthelifeof you must discover it on your own - I will guide you #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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3:00 P.M.
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@yearinthelifeof you must discover it on your own - I will guide you #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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3:00 P.M.
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@nickkiley i do like winding 'em up, they still dont get i am not anti D- just anti it having a term ;-) #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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4/4/2012
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3:00 P.M.
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Thanks to the great @Marisa_C & @Shaunwilden for guiding our learning & discovery today in #ELTChat
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kevchanwow
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4/4/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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It ain't discovery if the answer is just waiting to be revealed. Both the teacher and students should have a sense of exploration. #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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RT @theteacherjames: @reasons4 @rliberni Depends on how you order the P's, I suppose... ;-) #eltchat > goon 'un
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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Good to see some more czech friends and colleagues joining #eltchat today, hope that means #czelt is begining to take off
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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@reasons4 @rliberni Depends on how you order the P's, I suppose... ;-) #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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Summary?????????????????? #ELTchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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RT @daveclearycz Thanks all, my first participation in #eltchat, tried to move away from the D-word but ho-hum. Cheers Dave
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yearinthelifeof
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4/4/2012
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3:02 P.M.
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@rliberni @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden I never knew that was Shaun's middle name #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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3:02 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Summary?????????????????? #ELTchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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3:02 P.M.
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@JoHart Like it!! #eltchat
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daveclearycz
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4/4/2012
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3:02 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: Good to see some more czech friends and colleagues joining #eltchat today, hope that means #czelt is begining to take off
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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3:02 P.M.
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Bloody hell I'll do the summary then. My idea #eltchat #somuchforaholiday
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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3:02 P.M.
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RT @theteacherjames @reasons4 @rliberni Depends on how you order the P's, I suppose... ;-) #eltchat intend do do p then p then p :-)
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BobK99
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4/4/2012
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3:02 P.M.
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RT @yearinthelifeof #ELTchat ... no idea what we're discussing today. Anyone??? > Oops - it WAS Guided Discovery. But ... bye all, and thks!
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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3:02 P.M.
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RT @kevchanwow: It ain't discovery if the answer is just waiting to be revealed. Both T & Ss should have a sense of exploration. #ELTchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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3:02 P.M.
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Thanks, as ever, to @Marisa_C and Shaun Dogme Wilden @Shaunwilden & Shelly for gr8 moderation here every time! #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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3:02 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: @yearinthelifeof you must discover it on your own - I will guide you #ELTchat
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yearinthelifeof
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4/4/2012
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3:02 P.M.
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Could this be a chink in the armour of GD? Took me 20 mins to get it :-) #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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3:03 P.M.
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Great! Thank you all who participated and moderated even if we are all still clueless!!! #ELTchat
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LizziePinard
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4/4/2012
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3:03 P.M.
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Just got home, sorry I missed this! Look forward to the summary!!!!! #eltchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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3:03 P.M.
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@yearinthelifeof Lol :-) all now revealed that's why he hates it so much! #eltchat
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aslibasarirunlu
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4/4/2012
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3:03 P.M.
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#ELTchat What about teachers' discovery of their own self training sources? Guided or not? Do they also need guiding?
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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3:03 P.M.
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RT @bealer81: Bloody hell I'll do the summary then. My idea #eltchat #somuchforaholiday > we have a willing volunteer!!!!!! Hey great!
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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3:04 P.M.
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@Marisa_C I learned something today, all with a smile on my face! #ELTchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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3:04 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden I think so, so it was a success! #eltchat
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EnglishErrors
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4/4/2012
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3:04 P.M.
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#ELTchat please follow my account and feel free to add any useful links or info 4 students thanks :)
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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3:04 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Did we discover a summary writer? #eltchat
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rliberni
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4/4/2012
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3:04 P.M.
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RT @aslibasarirunlu: #ELTchat What about teachers' discovery of their own self training sources? Guided or not? Do they also need guiding?
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esolcourses
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4/4/2012
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3:04 P.M.
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GTG - cheers for the conversation, twitterinos! Catch you later hopefully for #ELTChat, round two :-)
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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3:04 P.M.
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@Marisa_C Did we discover a summary writer? #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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3:05 P.M.
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@theteacherjames seconded #ELTChat
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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3:05 P.M.
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@esolcourses I suggest we adopt twitterinos as our term of choice from now on. Motion carried? #ELTChat
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kevchanwow
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4/4/2012
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3:05 P.M.
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@Marisa_C & @Shaunwilden thanks for a great hour. Will be thinking this one over for some time. #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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3:05 P.M.
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Really enjoyed that #eltchat thanks all and discovered you can take part while in a car :-)
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michaelegriffin
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4/4/2012
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3:05 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden What other terms are you against having as a term? #ELTchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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3:05 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Did we discover a summary writer? #eltchat yes
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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3:05 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden yes a willing volunteer who enthusiastically offered @bealer81 #eltchat #eltchat #somuchforaholiday
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theteacherjames
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4/4/2012
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3:06 P.M.
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@Marisa_C @esolcourses Motion carried! #ELTChat
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Marisa_C
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4/4/2012
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3:06 P.M.
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Doing transcript @bealer81 don't go away #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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3:06 P.M.
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@michaelegriffin Quite a lot of them, I think elt is over termed and it over complicates things #eltchat
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bealer81
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4/4/2012
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3:07 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden Really enjoyed that #eltchat thanks all and discovered you can take part while in a car:-) there's a lot you can do in a car
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nickkiley
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4/4/2012
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3:07 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: Really enjoyed that #eltchat > Likewise, tho I discovered can do whilst teachers hover and panic ;-)
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JoHart
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4/4/2012
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3:07 P.M.
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@Marisa_C @kevchanwow #ELTchat - imho it can be discovery if waiting to be revealed for low level lit who need scaffolding
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michaelegriffin
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4/4/2012
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3:07 P.M.
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thanks all! looking forward to the summary by the #holidayfree @bealer81 (as well as some thinking time about GD on me own too) #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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4/4/2012
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3:07 P.M.
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@yearinthelifeof haha :-) #eltchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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3:07 P.M.
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RT @michaelegriffin @Shaunwilden What other terms are you against having as a term? #ELTchat schools, he hates school terms
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yearinthelifeof
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4/4/2012
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3:07 P.M.
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So, what were we talking about then? I wish someone had just told me rather than trying to guide me to the topic #ELTchat
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reasons4
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4/4/2012
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3:07 P.M.
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RT @michaelegriffin: @Shaunwilden What other terms are you against having as a term? #ELTchat
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michaelegriffin
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4/4/2012
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3:10 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden It's funny I am against over jargonification but pro #dogme as a thing and as a term. :) #ELTchat
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