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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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1:59 P.M.
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Almost time for #eltchat "Can a teacher personalise the classroom to take account of multiple intelligences?"
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ELTchat
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7/3/2012
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2:01 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: Ok so it midday and it's Wednesday so lets have an #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:01 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: Ok so it midday and it's Wednesday so lets have an #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:01 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Welcome to #ELTchat discussion on Multiple Intelligences - for the next hour my tweets on this topic - Join in & RT please
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:01 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Welcome to #ELTchat discussion on Multiple Intelligences - for the next hour my tweets on this topic - Join in & RT please
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:01 P.M.
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Ok so it midday and it's Wednesday so lets have an #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:01 P.M.
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Welcome to #ELTchat discussion on Multiple Intelligences - for the next hour my tweets on this topic - Join in & RT please
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:02 P.M.
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Welcome @breathyvowel #ELTchat first time here? If you need any help ask me or @Shaunwilden your moderators
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:02 P.M.
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For the next hour my tweets are dedicated to #eltchat
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:02 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Welcome to #ELTchat discussion on Multiple Intelligences - for the next hour my tweets on this topic - Join in & RT please
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esolcourses
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7/3/2012
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2:02 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: Ok so it midday and it's Wednesday so lets have an #eltchat ] sounds like a plan to me :-)
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yitzha_sarwono
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7/3/2012
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2:02 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Welcome to #ELTchat discussion on Multiple Intelligences - for the next hour my tweets on this topic - Join in & RT please
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breathyvowel
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7/3/2012
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2:02 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Welcome to #ELTchat discussion on Multiple Intelligences - for the next hour my tweets on this topic - Join in & RT please
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breathyvowel
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7/3/2012
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2:03 P.M.
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@Marisa_C #ELTchat I've popped in before, but mostly last year. I stole your idea for #KELTChat with @michaelegriffin :)
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:03 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Shaunwilden: In case you aint sure what MI are then here's what wiki says: http://t.co/51GGFYKr #ELTchat
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OUPELTGlobal
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7/3/2012
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2:03 P.M.
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Hello everyone. Really looking forward to today's topic - one of my favourites. #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:03 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: In case you aint sure what MI are then here's what wiki says: http://t.co/51GGFYKr #ELTchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:03 P.M.
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@Marisa_C Lol :-) #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:03 P.M.
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@kevchanwow :-) #ELTchat
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jenverschoor
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7/3/2012
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2:03 P.M.
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RT @TheConsultantsE: 20+ Fun Free Apps that Promote Student Centered Learning & Literacy http://t.co/NI1zS5PK #edchat #eltchat
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kevchanwow
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7/3/2012
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2:03 P.M.
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#ELTchat I'm trying to type something, but my fingers are all thumbs. Definitely lacking some kind of intelligence today.
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:03 P.M.
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Or ask @rliberni also moderator of #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:04 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: It seems to me that there is a growing voice that MI are actually not that relevant #ELTchat
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esolcourses
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7/3/2012
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2:04 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: It seems to me that there is a growing voice that MI are actually not that relevant #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:04 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: It seems to me that there is a growing voice that MI are actually not that relevant #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:04 P.M.
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@breathyvowel aw u thieves :-D #ELTchat #KELTChat
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:04 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Who else is here to tal Multiple Intellingences ? #ELTchat Roll Call pls > I'm here!
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:04 P.M.
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It seems to me that there is a growing voice that MI are actually not that relevant #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:04 P.M.
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Who else is here to tal Multiple Intellingences ? #ELTchat Roll Call pls
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kevchanwow
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7/3/2012
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2:04 P.M.
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Will be in #ELTchat for the next hour. Come and join in the discussion on multiple intelligences
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:05 P.M.
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Not a strong area of knowledge for me :-( so interested in views #eltchat
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:05 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: It seems to me that there is a growing voice that MI are actually not that relevant #ELTchat >Why's that?
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gmanreg
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7/3/2012
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2:05 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Who else is here to tal Multiple Intellingences ? #ELTchat Roll Call pls
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:05 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden should we focus on differences or similarities in the classroom? #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:05 P.M.
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@SophiaKhan4 HI Sophia and welcome #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:05 P.M.
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@NikkiFortova Both when relevant? #ELTchat
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SophiaKhan4
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7/3/2012
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2:05 P.M.
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Hi everyone, here in Sydney 11pm #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:05 P.M.
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@worldteacher Welcome Andrea great to see one of our super champ summary writers #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:06 P.M.
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RT @louisealix68: think it's good asT to know we all learn diff.(I'm visual) in order 2 help kids with learning stras best 2 them. #eltchat
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ShonaStrodder
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7/3/2012
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2:06 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Welcome to #ELTchat discussion on Multiple Intelligences - for the next hour my tweets on this topic - Join in & RT please
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:06 P.M.
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RT @NikkiFortova: @Shaunwilden should we focus on differences or similarities in the classroom? #eltchat Gr8 ?
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:06 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: @worldteacher Welcome Andrea great to see one of our super champ summary writers #ELTchat >Thanks, Marisa!
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:06 P.M.
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think it's good as teacher to know we all learn diff.(I'm visual) in order 2 help kids with learning strategies best suited 2 them. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:06 P.M.
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RT @OUPELTGlobal: Hello everyone. Really looking forward to today's topic - one of my favourites. #eltchat > welcome! :-)
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:07 P.M.
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RT @ManosSY: #ELTchat I actually did a VAK q'naire with my little ones last week - pretty revealing > what did it say Mano? (welcome )
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breathyvowel
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7/3/2012
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2:07 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden #ELTchat Yup, but for me the varying comes first, and the relevance to MI is more or less incidental.
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eugeniomondejar
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7/3/2012
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2:07 P.M.
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RT @TheConsultantsE: 20+ Fun Free Apps that Promote Student Centered Learning & Literacy http://t.co/NI1zS5PK #edchat #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:07 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @breathyvowel yes agreed I think the idea of varying activities etc is imp and MI would help to highlight that #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:07 P.M.
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RT @worldteacher: @louisealix68 I agree - we need to try a variety of methods to cater for all learning styles #eltchat
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:07 P.M.
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@louisealix68 I agree - we need to try a variety of methods to cater for all learning styles #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:07 P.M.
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@SophiaKhan4 I mostly teach 1:1 & v small group so can accommodate all #eltchat
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:07 P.M.
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#eltchat. Wouldn't go totally extreme in secondary education Γ la Thomas Armstrong. But think nonetheless important
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:07 P.M.
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@breathyvowel yes agreed I think the idea of varying activities etc is imp and MI would help to highlight that #ELTchat
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:08 P.M.
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RT @breathyvowel: @Shaunwilden #ELTchat but for me the varying comes first, and the relevance to MI is more or less incidental> me too
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:08 P.M.
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RT @esolcourses: I think accomodating Multiple Intelligences is fine in theory, but it may not always be practical to do so #eltchat
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stiiiv
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7/3/2012
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2:08 P.M.
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What's the diff btwn a lexical chunk & a construction? Use disc on @thornburyscott blog to think it thr http://t.co/EC0bMP2G #elt #eltchat
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esolcourses
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7/3/2012
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2:08 P.M.
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I think accomodating Multiple Intelligences is fine in theory, but it may not always be practical to do so #eltchat
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timjulian60
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7/3/2012
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2:08 P.M.
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#eltchat hi folks, seems that there is growing scepticism re science behind MIs.
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:09 P.M.
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RT @timjulian60: #eltchat hi folks, seems that thr is growing scepticism re science . Agree, but still principle of differentiation stands
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esolcourses
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7/3/2012
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2:09 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: I think scepticism is against trend for heavy individualisation when Ss in a class have so much in common #ELTchat ] agree
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:09 P.M.
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I think scepticism is against trend for heavy individualisation when Ss in a class have so much in common which can be neglected #ELTchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:10 P.M.
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How do we assess the MI in our class or do these emerge? #eltchat
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:10 P.M.
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#eltchat MI can be good way to organise different learning possibiligies in primary class (topic/project based) to keep up motivation
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:10 P.M.
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RT @NikkiFortova: Do you all know which intelligemnce @Marisa_C so focus on the similarities rather than the differences? #ELTchat > yes
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SophiaKhan4
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7/3/2012
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2:10 P.M.
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@rliberni I tend to stick to viual, auditory, kinaesthetic I guess, interested to know more about diff types #ELTchat
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OUPELTGlobal
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7/3/2012
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2:11 P.M.
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When sts are aware of MI, they become aware that everyone learns in different ways. It helps them play to their strengths. #eltchat
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yitzha_sarwono
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7/3/2012
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2:11 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: It seems to me that there is a growing voice that MI are actually not that relevant #ELTchat - how so?
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:11 P.M.
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@worldteacher Re formal tests - we do use some - the Brasch Inventory is a nice one & can be found online #eltchat
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mickstout
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7/3/2012
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2:11 P.M.
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RT @esolcourses: I think accomodating Multiple Intelligences is fine in theory, but it may not always be practical to do so #eltchat
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:11 P.M.
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@rliberni Great question. Does everyone know which intelligence(s) they use? #eltchat
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:11 P.M.
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#ELTchat One of my mentors once asked me a question about teaching carpenters how to build through singing. #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:11 P.M.
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I think any sensible T will use a multisensory/multimedia approach to catch diff levels of ability too & poss diff modality prefs #ELTchat
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:11 P.M.
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#eltchat Does anyone use formal tests to assess MI of their sts?
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:11 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: RT @rliberni: How do we assess the MI in our class or do these emerge? #eltchat Not sure we need to- just provide variety?
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:11 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: RT @rliberni: How do we assess the MI in our class or do these emerge? #eltchat Not sure we need to- just provide variety?
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:12 P.M.
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I recommend Thomas Armstrong for those who want to know more about MI in class #eltchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:12 P.M.
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@OUPELTGlobal: Agree good for ss to be aware as promotes idea that all have sthg to offer. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:12 P.M.
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Can't spell today - just been to the dentist's disoriented BARSCH!!!! #ELTchat
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kevchanwow
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7/3/2012
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2:12 P.M.
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Actually, I think the content needs to dictate the manner of presentation much more than any particular skill set of the learners.#ELTchat
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yitzha_sarwono
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7/3/2012
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2:12 P.M.
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RT @louisealix68: #eltchat MI can be good way to organise different learning possibiligies in primary class (topic/project based) to keep up motivation
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Magsterhooks
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7/3/2012
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2:12 P.M.
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RT @esolcourses #eltchat #edtchat #edtech http://t.co/N9kPVZ9e
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:12 P.M.
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@worldteacher No though strangely I do let teachers assess themselves in training sessions on this area #ELTchat
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breathyvowel
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7/3/2012
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2:12 P.M.
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@rliberni #eltchat I'm not totally sure what an MI assessment would look like. I'd think that would be part of reflective practice.
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kevchanwow
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7/3/2012
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2:13 P.M.
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@michaelegriffin I think Bernstein said writing about music was akin to dancing about architecture. #ELTchat. Content determines medium.
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:13 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden He tortures me and talks linguistics at the same time #ELTchat
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esolcourses
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7/3/2012
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2:13 P.M.
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@michaelegriffin LOL! did you use 'if I had a hammer' to teach them conditionals? #ELTchat
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:13 P.M.
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@breathyvowel Here's one: http://t.co/zqOgEMKN #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:13 P.M.
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@Marisa_C oo now theres a research grant - the effects of the dentist on spelling #ELTchat
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:13 P.M.
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#ELTchat MT @kevchanwow strip MI down most basic idea: diff people have diff skls and can make use of those skls when engaged in learning...
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mickstout
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7/3/2012
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2:13 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @worldteacher: @louisealix68 I agree - we need to try a variety of methods to cater for all learning styles #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:14 P.M.
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Is it important to know our own intelligence - does this help to balance things? #eltchat
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:14 P.M.
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@louisealix68 Book? Article? #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:14 P.M.
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@NikkiFortova @rliberni they use as in what are mine or which do I address in class? #ELTchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:14 P.M.
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@NikkiFortova to be honest no I don't #eltchat
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:15 P.M.
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@louisealix68 Thanks! #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:15 P.M.
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Here is link to the Barsch Learning Inventory which also explains what yoru style means and how u learn best http://t.co/2W7ckOep #ELTchat
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breathyvowel
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7/3/2012
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2:15 P.M.
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@worldteacher #eltchat Are there any that test, rather than ask the students opinion? That would be fine for adults, but how about YLs?
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:15 P.M.
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@esolcourses #ELT LOL... I am still thinking about the question...singing about carpentry (or was it bricklaying) #ELTchat
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:15 P.M.
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RT @kevchanwow: @michaelegriffin I think Bernstein said writing about music was akin to dancing about architecture. #ELTchat. Content determines medium.
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:15 P.M.
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@rliberni No, nor me, and I don't really know how to assess my learners, or if it would help them #eltchat
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BobK99
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7/3/2012
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2:15 P.M.
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#eltchat Late again. Catching up... (Q to be going on with: are we addressing differnt approaches of diff ss, or MI of each s?)
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:16 P.M.
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@michaelegriffin I've done that one but it annoys me half way thru when it is clear the questions are just being rephrased :-) #eltchat
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:16 P.M.
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@michaelegriffin What puts you off MI? #ELTchat #ELTchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:16 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: @rliberni Yes, imp to know our own prefrred styles so we don't assume our ss learn the same way #eltchat
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:16 P.M.
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#ELTchat I am no huge MI fan but I think this test rocks http://t.co/XZbXiMH5 #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:17 P.M.
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@rliberni @NikkiFortova Am not sure I agree, I think a good tchr varies stuff in the c/room as a matter of course #eltchat
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esolcourses
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7/3/2012
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2:17 P.M.
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@michaelegriffin for teaching bricklaying, I'd probably be inclined to use 'another brick in the wall' ;-) #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:17 P.M.
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@ManosSY you might need it for assgnmt wk #ELTchat
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:17 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: RT @teflerinha: @rliberni Yes, imp to know our own prefrred styles so we don't assume our ss learn the same way #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:17 P.M.
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RT @esolcourses: @michaelegriffin there's a lesson on the song here that you might find useful, then :-) http://t.co/uAqSdS6k #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:17 P.M.
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@NikkiFortova my instinct is that we may take the approach that best suits our own intelligence - how wld this affect others? #eltchat
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samshep
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7/3/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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#ELTchat surely multiple intelligences is just learning styles dressed in different clothes w same pitfalls and questions.
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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RT @OUPELTGlobal: I think tchers should be careful of labelling their sts - different sts can use different ints at different times #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden: @rliberni @NikkiFortova agree for all sorts of reasons #ELTchat
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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@NikkiFortova Just sort of the cultiness of MI puts me off. I am with @Marisa_C about much of just being sensible #ELTchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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@teflerinha Do we instinctively we do veer towards our own style so need to consciously embrace all? #eltchat
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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@rliberni OK. I've always worked around VARK rather than MI in the classroom so far so a new area for me #eltchat
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breathyvowel
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7/3/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @rliberni @NikkiFortova Am not sure I agree, I think a good tchr varies stuff in the c/room as a matter of course #eltchat
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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Andrew Walkley (Innovations, Outcomes) talked disparagingly of MIs at IATEFL'10 - been wondering ever since if it really is a myth #ELTchat
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esolcourses
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7/3/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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RT @rliberni: @NikkiFortova my instinct is that we may take the approach that best suits our own intelligence #eltchat
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OUPELTGlobal
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7/3/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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I think teachers should be careful of labelling their sts - different sts can use different ints at different times #eltchat
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kevchanwow
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7/3/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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@louisealix68 agree that a wide range of activities is necessary to keep students involved. But does MI offer the right framework? #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:18 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @rliberni @NikkiFortova Am not sure I agree, I think a good tchr varies stuff in the c/room as a matter of course #eltchat
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OUPELTGlobal
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7/3/2012
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2:19 P.M.
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I don't think MI is about variety necessarily but appealing to how sts learn #eltchat
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:19 P.M.
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@rliberni Interesting...sometimes I think I veer totally away from my style! #ELTchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:19 P.M.
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@NikkiFortova VARK? #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:19 P.M.
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@samshep I agree and there are far too many learning styles models out there, can get very confusing :-) #eltchat
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BobK99
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7/3/2012
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2:19 P.M.
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@michaelegriffin @esolcourses #ELT #ELTchat If I had a hammer' AND 'If I were a carpenter'. :)
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:19 P.M.
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@Marisa_C I'm sure you are right and variety has always been the key in any case but it's good to reflect I think :-) #eltchat
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:19 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @rliberni Am not sure I agree, I think a good tchr varies stuff in the c/room as a matter of course #eltchat >Absolutely!
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harrisonmike
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7/3/2012
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2:19 P.M.
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MI??? #eltchat ...just checking in...
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harrisonmike
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7/3/2012
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2:20 P.M.
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Ahh MI. RT @samshep: #ELTchat surely multiple intelligences is just learning styles dressed in different clothes w same pitfalls and qs.
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:20 P.M.
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#eltchat most imp is 2 know we all learn diff'ly + so important to have variety in lessons. Also challenge pupils to do sth not normally do.
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:20 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: #eltchat Do you think Young Learners can benefit more than adults from a multi sensory style of teaching? > definitely
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:20 P.M.
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Here a link to Howard Gardner's book on google books - originator of this MI theory http://t.co/0TagR8U6 #eltchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:20 P.M.
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#eltchat Do you think Young Learners can benefit more than adults from a multi sensory style of teaching?
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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@Marisa_C #eltchat It's certainly my experience that YLs respond well 2 multi sensory approach-hence big popularity of Puchta, I think.
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harrisonmike
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7/3/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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I'm not feeling very multiply intelligent today =/ #eltchat xD
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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RT @louisealix68: #eltchat > sounds like most of us are sceptics!
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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#eltchat > sounds like most of us are sceptics!
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden I remember when doing primary teaching this came up with the left-brain/right-brain orientation teacher vs kids #eltchat
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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@louisealix68 @esolcourses @BobK99 @SueAnnan I am just cracking up here with the songs #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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@teflerinha So does is that saying multisensory and mutiple intelligences are the same theory? #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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@teflerinha So does is that saying multisensory and mutiple intelligences are the same theory? #eltchat
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ShonaStrodder
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7/3/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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How do you find out your own? RT @rliberni Is it important to know our own intelligence - does this help to balance things? #eltchat
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ShonaStrodder
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7/3/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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How do you find out your own? RT @rliberni Is it important to know our own intelligence - does this help to balance things? #eltchat
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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@harrisonmike Multiple intelligences #eltchat
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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@harrisonmike Multiple intelligences #eltchat
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samshep
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7/3/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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if such things can be so tritely categorised then we close down learning possibilities. "u learn best like this so u must use it". #ELTchat
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samshep
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7/3/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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if such things can be so tritely categorised then we close down learning possibilities. "u learn best like this so u must use it". #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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@teflerinha A M-Sensory approach in the hear of training ppl to receive info in a Multimedia world #eltchat
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breathyvowel
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7/3/2012
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2:21 P.M.
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@teflerinha #eltchat I'd say so - particularly in the musical and kinaesthetic departments.
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harrisonmike
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7/3/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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@rliberni @Shaunwilden right handed=maths, left handed=arts, wasn't it?? #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @louisealix68: #eltchat > sounds like most of us are sceptics! > Yes, abt the MI theory but in practice we all seem to apply it :-)
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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@teflerinha Good for adults, too - have found this to be the case here in Vietnam more than I did in Europe. #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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@kevchanwow @NikkiFortova I completely agree, my point is that I vary without the need to think about MI #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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RT @louisealix68: #eltchat > sounds like most of us are sceptics! > Yes, abt the MI theory but in practice we all seem to apply it :-)
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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@samshep don't think MI r learning styles dressed up in diff clothes. Close but not same - wuld 2 gifted musicians learn same way? #eltchat
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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@samshep Right! and maybe it is helpful to try to improve in other ways too.... #ELTchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:22 P.M.
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@ShonaStrodder good question how do you find out? Links please #eltchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:23 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden #eltchat Multisensory and MI not the same, but linked I think as point of multisensory to stimulate diff ways of learning
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:23 P.M.
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@Marisa_C I think si too surely a good awareness of ur stds and also a focus on the learner should cover this (too simplistic?) #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:23 P.M.
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@harrisonmike what about being forced to be right handed? #eltchat
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:23 P.M.
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@rliberni Visual Aural Read/Write kinaesthetic http://t.co/ct36VJSi #eltchat
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kevchanwow
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7/3/2012
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2:24 P.M.
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@samshep Learning styles can be unproductive as well as productive. Teachers need to help students asses how they are learning. #ELTchat
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:24 P.M.
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http://t.co/ly1oLHQb Bonnie Tsai interesting speaker on MI #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:24 P.M.
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@harrisonmike basically but is actually deeper, football is e.g. right-brained but most other sports are left etc.. etc.. #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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7/3/2012
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2:24 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden evil #eltchat
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:24 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden my dad was forced to be right handed. Very bizarre. #eltchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:24 P.M.
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@worldteacher #eltchat Interesting- I agree different cultures may be more open to working in different ways. Any other egs folks?
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theteacherjames
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7/3/2012
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2:24 P.M.
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@samshep I'm wary of anything that puts people into a few narrowly defined boxes. Part of the reason I have no time for horoscopes! #ELTchat
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cybraryman1
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7/3/2012
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2:24 P.M.
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My Multiple Intelligences - Multipotentiality page http://t.co/pRjgU8QQ #eltchat
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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2:24 P.M.
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hello everyone - joining #eltchat from coastal andhra pradesh after today's class. what's today's topics?
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esolcourses
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7/3/2012
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2:24 P.M.
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@rliberni @NikkiFortova I lean towards a 'hands on' approach, but find some learners prefer more traditional modes of learning #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:25 P.M.
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@NikkiFortova @harrisonmike so was I, am naturally left handed but they didnt let me be at school #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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7/3/2012
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2:25 P.M.
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@harrisonmike I'm not feeling very singularly intelligent today #oneofthosedays #eltchat
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:25 P.M.
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we certainly do it in practice but we don't cater 4 all MIs to same degree wot bout Naturalist? Do U know what to do to with them? #eltchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:25 P.M.
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RT @louisealix68: http://t.co/TN1cszNk Bonnie Tsai interesting speaker on MI #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:25 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Another useful book on preview on Google Books http://t.co/oBKyBZlc #ELTchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:25 P.M.
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@esolcourses so true! hence the grammar-no-grammar debate :-) #eltchat
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analomba
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7/3/2012
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2:25 P.M.
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RT @cybraryman1: My Multiple Intelligences - Multipotentiality page http://t.co/pRjgU8QQ #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:25 P.M.
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Another useful book on preview on Google Books http://t.co/oBKyBZlc #ELTchat
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:26 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden So odd. Does that still happen in schools today? #eltchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:26 P.M.
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RT @leoselivan: w wot bout Naturalist? Do U know what to do to with them? #eltchat Take your clothes off? ;) (joke)
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samshep
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7/3/2012
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2:26 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden #ELTchat LS pretty much conclusively dismissed by a big meta-analysis done a couple of years ago. #bugbear sorry.
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esolcourses
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7/3/2012
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2:26 P.M.
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RT @michaelegriffin: @louisealix68 @esolcourses @BobK99 @SueAnnan I am just cracking up here with the songs #ELTchat ] same here :-)
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:27 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @samshep Do you have a link to it? #eltchat > thanks for asking am not sure either
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OUPELTGlobal
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7/3/2012
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2:27 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: RT @leoselivan: w wot bout Naturalist? Do U know what to do to with them? #eltchat Take your clothes off? ;) (joke)
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:27 P.M.
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@samshep Do you have a link to it? #eltchat
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SophiaKhan4
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7/3/2012
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2:27 P.M.
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@teflerinha @leoselivan I was going to say the same! Leo, what is that? Sorry to ask #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:28 P.M.
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RT @harrisonmike: @samshep @Shaunwilden we learnt abt gustatory and olfactory learners last Thurs on the #delta #eltchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:28 P.M.
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@BobK99 Yes, think you're probably right. #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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7/3/2012
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2:28 P.M.
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@samshep @Shaunwilden we learnt abt gustatory and olfactory learners last Thurs on the #delta #eltchat
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:28 P.M.
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@teflerinha LOL or go tree hugging? #eltchat
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:28 P.M.
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I often wonder why it is such a focus on training courses. Is it easier to believe than simply thinking of variety? #ELTchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:28 P.M.
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@SophiaKhan4 @Leoselivan #eltchat Think, seriously, a naturalist approach might involve learning outside or growing cress or something
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BobK99
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7/3/2012
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2:28 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: #eltchat ...th YLs can benefit more than ad from a multi sens st of tchg? > Yes, but cos adlts've been t't in a sterile way
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:29 P.M.
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@cherrymp lol you tease!!! #eltchat
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:29 P.M.
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RT @samshep: @kevchanwow #ELTchat surely learning is too big, complex & wonderful to stick neat little labels on how individuals do it best?
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:29 P.M.
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RT @samshep: @kevchanwow #ELTchat surely learning is too big, complex & wonderful to stick neat little labels on how individuals do it best?
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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2:29 P.M.
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is it due to my connection speed or as @harrisonmike mentioned as "not feeling singularly intelligent" that #eltchat seems v slow?!
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samshep
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7/3/2012
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2:29 P.M.
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@kevchanwow #ELTchat surely learning is too big, complex & wonderful to stick neat little labels on how individuals do it best?
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:29 P.M.
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but seriously anything to do with sorting and categorising is good for Naturalistic intel. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:29 P.M.
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@harrisonmike bring food to class :-) #delta #eltchat
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:30 P.M.
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@SophiaKhan4 @teflerinha it's the 8th MI which was added later; Originally Gardner proposed 7 #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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7/3/2012
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2:30 P.M.
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@Marisa_C Smelly cheese!! xD #eltchat I chew my pencils, so apparently I may be gustatory...
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:30 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @harrisonmike @samshep Oh gustatory now we talking :-) #eltchat > what is it?
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:30 P.M.
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RT @BobK99: @teflerinha #eltchat Us old folkis have had all this 'MI' malarkey beaten out of us!
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OUPELTGlobal
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7/3/2012
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2:30 P.M.
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I'm a great believer in the original 7, but not too sure about naturalist or existential #eltchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:30 P.M.
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@michaelegriffin #eltchat Think it's a focus on training courses b/c ts need 2 consider difference- & ppl luv doing personality quizzes!
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BobK99
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7/3/2012
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2:30 P.M.
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@teflerinha #eltchat Us old folkis have had all this 'MI' malarkey beaten out of us!
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:30 P.M.
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@harrisonmike @samshep Oh gustatory now we talking :-) #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:31 P.M.
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@louisealix68 olfactory #ELTchat
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:31 P.M.
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@teflerinha Nice point. quizzes are fun. And i think it can be important. "Hey guys learners are different!!!" #ELTchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:31 P.M.
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I think this is all very imp 2 look at & keeps ppl in work but I think rapport w/stds has to resolve this too (am I a heretic?) #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:31 P.M.
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Personally I like to use Qaires & activities bcz Ss intensely interested in their own learning #ELTchat whether or not theory valid
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samshep
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7/3/2012
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2:31 P.M.
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@leoselivan maybe not entirely same but cousins? Still same pitfalls and questions though for me #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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7/3/2012
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2:31 P.M.
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@NikkiFortova @Shaunwilden @samshep learn by taste #eltchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:31 P.M.
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@OUPELTGlobal #eltchat existential or spiritual intelligence is starting to be a big thing in coaching and business training I believe
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:32 P.M.
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@breathyvowel @harrisonmike @NikkiFortova @samshep First rule of #eltchat always have a snack and drink at hand :-)
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:32 P.M.
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MT @JosetteLB Good Q.I wonder if it has more 2 do w/ self-identification w/ the concept.Ex.I'm visual learner, so my ss might be 2 #ELTchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:32 P.M.
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RT @michaelegriffin: @teflerinha Nice point. quizzes R fun. & i think it cn B important. "Hey guys learners R difft!!!" #ELTchat Yes!
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harrisonmike
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7/3/2012
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2:32 P.M.
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yes xD RT @louisealix68: @harrisonmike @Marisa_C and I scratch my nose all the time. New intelligence? #eltchat
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breathyvowel
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7/3/2012
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2:32 P.M.
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@harrisonmike @NikkiFortova @Shaunwilden @samshep Can we stop talking about gustatory learning, or I'll have to leave for some eats #eltchat
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:32 P.M.
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@harrisonmike oh yay :-) Am definitely one of those learners then. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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Ss like to introspect - feel T is interested in how they learn - + it's one of the few genuinely communicative metacognitive activs #ELTchat
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kevchanwow
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7/3/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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@samshep couldn't agree more. I think any student can learn in any number of ways. #ELTchat
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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@sophiakhan4 @harrisonmike left tweetdeck out of choice. didn't like its new look!!! hootsuite too has to refresh manually :(. #eltchat
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @harrisonmike @louisealix68 @Marisa_C No thats a tell for lying isnt it :-) #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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RT @OUPELTGlobal: MI led me to think about interpersonal learners, or kinesthetic. Ints that can be easily ignored in teh clssrm #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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I think all this intelligence is interfering with tweetdeck mine's going at 2-speed! #eltchat
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infohio
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7/3/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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RT @cybraryman1: My Multiple Intelligences - Multipotentiality page http://t.co/pRjgU8QQ #eltchat
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OUPELTGlobal
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7/3/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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MI led me to think about interpersonal learners, or kinesthetic. Ints that can be easily ignored in teh clssrm #eltchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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@rliberni #eltchat Yes, rapport, or to put it another way, empathy, is key
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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@harrisonmike @louisealix68 @Marisa_C No thats a tell for lying isnt it :-) #eltchat
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:33 P.M.
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#eltchat > is also known in research that boys learn diff from girls. Perhaps we can should have 2x as many MI?
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BobK99
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7/3/2012
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2:34 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden #eltchat Happened to my older borother too. Now they're more accepting. Sinistrality prob protected by Euro Ct of Hum Rts!
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:34 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden gesture yes true #eltchat
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:34 P.M.
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RT @harrisonmike: yes xD and I scratch my nose all the time. New intelligence? #eltchat >just multitasking isn it? #eltchat
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padgets
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7/3/2012
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2:34 P.M.
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RT @cybraryman1: My Multiple Intelligences - Multipotentiality page http://t.co/pRjgU8QQ #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:34 P.M.
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@teflerinha I agree - empathy - one of most important words in teaching! #eltchat
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:34 P.M.
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So yeah...Im totally back on the MI train...if it helps T's think that Ss are different and that variety is good. #ELTchat
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OUPELTGlobal
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7/3/2012
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2:35 P.M.
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RT @rliberni: @teflerinha I agree - empathy - one of most important words in teaching! #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:36 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @BobK99 "Sinistrality " I think thats got to be word of the day :-) #eltchat we need an #eltchat glossary!
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breathyvowel
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7/3/2012
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2:37 P.M.
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@NikkiFortova I definitely find that the atmosphere changes with gender balance, so perhaps unconsciously yes. #eltchat
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:37 P.M.
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@OUPELTGlobal on the contrary Interpers r OK in Communicative classes at least Knsthetic r easy to engage too but not all Ts do #eltchat
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:37 P.M.
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Multitasking = another MI? just got slowed down by watching b'cast of Dutch ed. minister http://t.co/u4QZ1mKt #eltchat
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:37 P.M.
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RT @NikkiFortova: Do you think we do change activity types according to gender of Ss? I'd never thought about that #eltchat>Nor me!
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JosetteLB
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7/3/2012
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2:37 P.M.
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Isn't MI about connecting to our SS? When we feel an emotional connection, don't we learn better? #ELTchat
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kevchanwow
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7/3/2012
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2:37 P.M.
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Now here is a thread I can let myself be pulled by. MI as a means for students to discuss how they learn. An exercise in empathy. #eltchat
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:38 P.M.
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@kevchanwow #ELTchat and to realize that there are many ways to learn and that it is OK to be (learn) different
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samshep
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7/3/2012
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2:38 P.M.
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@Marisa_C we cn be interested in how ss learn w/out labelling them. Also shd encourage thm to try diff things & expand capabilities #ELTchat
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SophiaKhan4
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7/3/2012
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2:38 P.M.
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@NikkiFortova In primary school my brother has had to do this - he feels girls get all the advantage at school (visual/auditory) #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:38 P.M.
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Can you please share some activities or activ types which you have used successfully? #ELTchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:38 P.M.
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@NikkiFortova @sophiaKhan4 Thnk gender cn affct way class interacts. Once had all male CELTA & all activities finished superfast #eltchat
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JosetteLB
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7/3/2012
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2:38 P.M.
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MT @kevchanwow MI as a means for students to discuss how they learn. An exercise in empathy. #eltchat > Now we're talkin!
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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2:38 P.M.
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@michaelegriffin yeah - when i started it's quite confusing. now got used to making sense out of the chaos. :) #eltchat. btw. fine. n u?
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:39 P.M.
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MI = empathy, understand others learn diff'ly. I use hand gestures 2 indicate where on pg (in my mind) sth is. Not all underst' me #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:39 P.M.
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here's a lesson plan I just found online http://t.co/ae3xEz66 #eltchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:39 P.M.
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RT @leoselivan: @teflerinha @SophiaKhan4 but seriously anything to do with sorting and categorising is good for Naturalistic intel. #eltchat
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SophiaKhan4
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7/3/2012
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2:39 P.M.
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@teflerinha @NikkiFortova Yes! I've seen that too #eltchat
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:39 P.M.
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@teflerinha @SophiaKhan4 but seriously anything to do with sorting and categorising is good for Naturalistic intel. #eltchat
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:39 P.M.
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@breathyvowel Oh yes agree, atmosphere changes but do my activity types? No idea. #eltchat
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OUPELTGlobal
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7/3/2012
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2:39 P.M.
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@leoselivan Kinsthetic can easily be seen as disruptive sts, esp in general education classes of 25 sts + #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:39 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Can you please share some activities or activ types which you have used successfully? #ELTchat
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esolcourses
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7/3/2012
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2:39 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Can you please share some activities or activ types which you have used successfully? #ELTchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:40 P.M.
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#eltchat Extended project type work tends to be good for MI I think as there are a variety of tasks
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:40 P.M.
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e.g. use running dictation for kinsaesthetic. Dictogloss = linguistic/math #eltchat
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SophiaKhan4
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7/3/2012
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2:40 P.M.
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@teflerinha @NikkiFortova And I think this goes for language classes too, when lots of young males - sorry boys! #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:40 P.M.
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@samshep exploration/discussion does not assume theory adoption - but topic interestsv Ss highly & can lead to study skills chats #ELTchat
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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2:40 P.M.
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@rliberni @Shaunwilden @BobK99 guess we can make one - we've more than enough #eltchat. n guess there's sth 4 all forms of intelligences ;)
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:40 P.M.
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@samshep Have a good lesson #eltchat
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kevchanwow
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7/3/2012
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2:40 P.M.
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@JosetteLB recognizing what brings our students joy and how where they excel is key for rapport. But does MI help us do that? #ELTchat
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samshep
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7/3/2012
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2:40 P.M.
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#ELTchat sorry just dropped in and dropping out : classroom calling! Happy chatting!
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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RT @worldteacher: RT @Shaunwilden: here's a lesson plan I just found online http://t.co/jiBiCStw #eltchat You beat me to it - just found that ,too!!
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samshep
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7/3/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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#ELTchat I always get learners to discuss own learning outside class & to share their own ideas as well as add some ideas of my own.
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: #eltchat Extended project type work tends to be good for MI I think as there are a variety of tasks
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esolcourses
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7/3/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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Online drag and drop picture quizzes on my website 4 spacial intel. - work well as ind. or group activities. http://t.co/DwwK3BTV #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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RT @louisealix68: e.g. use running dictation for kinsaesthetic. Dictogloss = linguistic/math #eltchat > :-)
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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@OUPELTGlobal true but if u get ur Ss to get out of their chairs & move around a bit - wouldn't it do the trick? e.g. running dict.
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: here's a lesson plan I just found online http://t.co/jiBiCStw #eltchat You beat me to it - just found that ,too!!
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breathyvowel
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7/3/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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@NikkiFortova I think possibly mine do, though it's a decision based on what works best for the class, rather than on gender alone. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:41 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: #eltchat Extended project type work tends to be good for MI I think as there are a variety of tasks
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:42 P.M.
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@breathyvowel absolutley. And as you said at the beginning perhaps we make this call regardless of MI #eltchat
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yitzha_sarwono
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7/3/2012
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2:42 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: here's a lesson plan I just found online http://t.co/ae3xEz66 #eltchat
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:42 P.M.
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@Marisa_C @louisealix68 would be nice to compile a list MIs and classroom activities - had it somewhere in the past #eltchat
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:42 P.M.
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learn vocab=rote (music); organise alphabetically - math; read/cover = ling; #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:42 P.M.
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@leoselivan used to do dictation in teams with paper up on wall 1st grp to complete with all correct won #eltchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:42 P.M.
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#eltchat And giving ss the opportunity to work alone as well as in pairs or groups- for intrapersonal learners
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:42 P.M.
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Drawin', movin', clappin' actin', connectin', solvin' (puzzles), #ELTchat
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BobK99
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7/3/2012
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2:43 P.M.
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@NikkiFortova #eltchat 'Chacun Γ son gustum [guessing at the gender]' > cirumflex (goΓ»t') often means there's a an S in the root.
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kevchanwow
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7/3/2012
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2:43 P.M.
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Shouldn't we focus on the now of the classroom? Yesterdays intelligence might be out of reach today. #ELTchat
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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2:43 P.M.
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i'd a friend of mine who did her dissertation on Emotional Intelligence EI n argued for a better u/s of that instead of MI in LT. #eltchat
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breathyvowel
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7/3/2012
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2:43 P.M.
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RT @NikkiFortova: @breathyvowel absolutley. And as you said at the beginning perhaps we make this call regardless of MI #eltchat >Quite.
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:43 P.M.
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RT @cherrymp: Howard Gardner, multiple intelligences and education http://t.co/tpleDJxb sorry #eltchat if this link had already appeared!
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:43 P.M.
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@leoselivan the barsch inventory when u complete it has some noce suggestions #eltchat
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OUPELTGlobal
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7/3/2012
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2:43 P.M.
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@leoselivan I agree, but not always easy with 30 sts in the class, That's when MI becomes important to that student #eltchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:43 P.M.
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RT @kevchanwow: @samshep @Marisa_C "without labeling". 6 or 7 or 8 intelligences is not enough. & R they truly stable? #eltchat
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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2:43 P.M.
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Howard Gardner, multiple intelligences and education http://t.co/tpleDJxb sorry #eltchat if this link had already appeared!
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esolcourses
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7/3/2012
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2:44 P.M.
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@Marisa_C thanks. S's seem to enjoy them a lot, & have the advantage that they can be used for self-study to consolidate learning #eltchat
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JosetteLB
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7/3/2012
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2:44 P.M.
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@kevchanwow Sure. Ex. MI Aware vs Unaware T. Aware T sees Ss as a whole being (see pic). Does this help? #ELTchat http://t.co/EcxCxsO4
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:44 P.M.
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@cherrymp what is emotional intelligence? How sensitive you are to your surroundings and people? #eltchat
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:44 P.M.
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@OUPELTGlobal not easy with 30but seen Ts do it with even more - if there is a will I guess...and we should encourage it #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:44 P.M.
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RT @kevchanwow: Shouldn't we focus on the now of the classroom? Yesterdays intelligence might be out of reach today. #ELTchat
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analomba
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7/3/2012
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2:44 P.M.
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Part 4: Only 15 Minutes for Spanish (other Lang)? Why Monolingual Parents Have a LOT to Win! W/ @KarenNemethEdM #eltchat #parenting #ellchat
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OUPELTGlobal
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7/3/2012
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2:44 P.M.
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Asking sts whon learn visually to find their own images for texts, adds to their understanding/learning of the text #eltchat
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ShiftParadigm
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7/3/2012
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2:45 P.M.
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Following an interesting chat re multiple-intelligences. #eltchat
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OUPELTGlobal
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7/3/2012
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2:45 P.M.
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@leoselivan I agree with that - encourage and help. #eltchat
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daysealbar
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7/3/2012
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2:45 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: Here a link to Howard Gardner's book on google books - originator of this MI theory http://t.co/0TagR8U6 #eltchat
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SueAnnan
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7/3/2012
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2:45 P.M.
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Hi Everyone. Can spend the end of #eltchat with you
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esolcourses
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7/3/2012
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2:45 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: RT @kevchanwow: Shouldn't we focus on the now of the classroom? Yesterdays intelligence might be out of reach 2day #ELTchat
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SueAnnan
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7/3/2012
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2:46 P.M.
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Does it take a lot of preparation to cope with the different intelligences in the classroom? #ELTchat
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:46 P.M.
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how about ideal combo Carol-Ann Tomlinson theory + Gardner + Armstrong's practical ideas? = ideal school? #eltchat
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:46 P.M.
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RT @rliberni used to do dictation in teams with paper up on wall 1st grp to complete with all correct won <> great activity #eltchat
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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2:46 P.M.
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@nikkifortova yeah - u r rt. EI: "the ability to identify, assess, and control the emotions of oneself, of others, and of groups". #eltchat
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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2:47 P.M.
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@louisealix68 don't think the university yet had made it available online. vl check if you're interested. #eltchat.
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:47 P.M.
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@SueAnnan #eltchat Not so much a lot of prep as bearing it in mind when choosing activity types I think
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:47 P.M.
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@SueAnnan No cos it is everyday teaching anyway :-) #ELTchat
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OUPELTGlobal
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7/3/2012
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2:48 P.M.
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@SueAnnan I don't think so. Once I was aware of them, and my sts too, we sort of helped each other. Awareness is very important! #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:48 P.M.
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@esolcourses #eltchat i love movable stuff - why i loved this new interactive bloom http://t.co/LPPte6f0
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SueAnnan
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7/3/2012
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2:48 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden I agree to a certain extent, but I have seen students turned off by different activities in class #ELTchat
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:48 P.M.
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final question: should MI matter more in the Educ system rather than on EFL courses? #eltchat
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:48 P.M.
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RT @cherrymp: merci :-) #eltchat
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:48 P.M.
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RT @teflerinha: @SueAnnan #eltchat Not so much a lot of prep as bearing it in mind when choosing activity types I think
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SophiaKhan4
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7/3/2012
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2:49 P.M.
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@teflerinha @SueAnnan sometimes hard to go out of your own comfort zone when choosing activities tho #eltchat
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:49 P.M.
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RT @Marisa_C: @esolcourses #eltchat i love movable stuff - why i loved this new interactive bloom http://t.co/q2IApHij genius, thank you
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:49 P.M.
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@SueAnnan thats only natural isn't it, if we have a class we need to cater to all which might mean some are happy when others arent #ELTchat
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OUPELTGlobal
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7/3/2012
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2:49 P.M.
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@leoselivan Vety good question - I think it has more impact in Educ system #eltchat
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:49 P.M.
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@leoselivan #eltchat - think it applies everywhere equally, as do all ideas on 'learning styles'
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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2:49 P.M.
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@leoselivan @rliberni saw this in action in one of the #ELTeCS workshops in #Myanmar - e'1 enjoyed that opp. to move around a lot.#eltchat
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:49 P.M.
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@louisealix68 @Marisa_C thanks Marisa #eltchat - I used to have it too Louise
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:50 P.M.
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@michaelegriffin @SueAnnan #eltchat Yes, agree, ss not always keen, but raising awareness helps.
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BobK99
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7/3/2012
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2:50 P.M.
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RT @JosetteLB: Isn't MI about connecting to our SS? Wn we feel .... cnxn don't we learn better? #ELTchat > Empathy (Is thr an echo in hr?)
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:50 P.M.
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@SophiaKhan4 so so true, but if we don;t go out of our comfort zone from time to time, we don' t learn #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:50 P.M.
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RT @NikkiFortova: RT @Marisa_C: @esolcourses #eltchat i love movable stuff - why i loved this new interactive bloom http://t.co/q2IApHij genius, thank you
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:50 P.M.
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definitely lots of moving in my class #eltchat
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:50 P.M.
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@SueAnnan I think that is a very good point and quite common... Like "why are we drawing in English class???!?!" "Give me verbs!"
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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RT @ShiftParadigm: In practice, might a good place to start be recognizing and accommodating a student's strengths? #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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RT @ShiftParadigm: In practice, might a good place to start be recognizing and accommodating a student's strengths? #eltchat
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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RT @ShiftParadigm: In practice, might a good place to start be recognizing and accommodating a student's strengths? #eltchat @Marisa_C
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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@louisealix68 guess i need to do a little bit of reading around this. #eltchat.
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden @sueannan I think a lot of it is "selling it" n reminding/remembering that we are all part of a group. (Value of MI?) #ELTchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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RT @NikkiFortova: @SophiaKhan4 so so true, but if we don;t go out of our comfort zone from time to time, we don' t learn #eltchat
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ShiftParadigm
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7/3/2012
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2:51 P.M.
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In practice, might a good place to start be recognizing and accommodating a student's strengths? #eltchat @Marisa_C
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:52 P.M.
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RT @worldteacher: #eltchat Just reading this article http://t.co/vrtkdLon on Integrating Multiple Intelligences in
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OUPELTGlobal
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7/3/2012
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2:52 P.M.
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RT @ShiftParadigm: In practice, might a good place to start be recognizing and accommodating a student's strths? #eltchat @Marisa_C
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:52 P.M.
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@ShiftParadigm Think so - process more significant than the outcome itself - introspection matters not the answers #eltchat
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breathyvowel
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7/3/2012
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2:52 P.M.
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RT @michaelegriffin: I think MI works as a great "excuse" for good teaching practices. :) #ELTchat < Right on!
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:52 P.M.
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I think MI works as a great "excuse" for good teaching practices. :) #ELTchat
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buthaina
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7/3/2012
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2:52 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Marisa_C: Can you please share some activities or activ types which you have used successfully? #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:53 P.M.
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@samshep Well least you're well primed on the varying opinions after #ELTchat :-)
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SueAnnan
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7/3/2012
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2:53 P.M.
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@michaelegriffin OK. I take your point #ELTchat
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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2:53 P.M.
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@rliberni @NikkiFortova @SophiaKhan4 getting out of the comfort zones is like challenging us. n that can lead to learning. #eltchat
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:53 P.M.
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@SueAnnan Like...as an explanation to Ss who might not be keen for certain things... We can say that MI is the reason. #ELTchat
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samshep
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7/3/2012
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2:53 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden ironically doing a TT session partly on differentiation! #ELTchat
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SophiaKhan4
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7/3/2012
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2:53 P.M.
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@NikkiFortova Exactly! I just might need to force myself, that's all! #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:54 P.M.
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SEVEN mins before the end of this #ELTchat n u all disappear, planting seed of who is going to write this SUMMARY pls? #ELTchat Volunteer!
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:54 P.M.
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@SueAnnan And what did they think?#ELTchat
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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2:54 P.M.
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@michaelegriffin lol - do we need "excuse" for good teaching practices?! #eltchat.
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SueAnnan
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7/3/2012
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2:54 P.M.
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Been looking at this with my trainees today #ELTchat
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:54 P.M.
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thank you for new digital Bloom that's been shared and RT'ed just now - don't know what it has to do with MI but it's great :) #ELTchat
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SophiaKhan4
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7/3/2012
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2:54 P.M.
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@leoselivan @teflerinha thanks, I wasn't familiar wit h naturalisitc or existential, hmm #eltchat
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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RT @ShiftParadigm: @Marisa_C @esolcourses - LOL, moveable indeed! Sometimes twitter feels like speed dating. #eltchat haha
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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RT @ShiftParadigm: @Marisa_C @esolcourses - LOL, moveable indeed! Sometimes twitter feels like speed dating. #eltchat
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SueAnnan
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7/3/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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RT @ShiftParadigm: @Marisa_C @esolcourses - LOL, moveable indeed! Sometimes twitter feels like speed dating. #eltchat
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ShiftParadigm
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7/3/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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@Marisa_C @esolcourses - LOL, moveable indeed! Sometimes twitter feels like speed dating. #eltchat
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OUPELTGlobal
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7/3/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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Gotta go - thanks everyone. #eltchat
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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@SueAnnan no but it does require thinking on your feet sometimes. I think if a T is aware u don't need to spend MORE time planning #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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@teflerinha @Marisa_C Super than you for volunteering #ELTchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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@Marisa_C #eltchat I will have a go if you like?
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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@Marisa_C I'll do tonights he said getting in very early #ELTchat
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esolcourses
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7/3/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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@michaelegriffin @SueAnnan encountered similar responses from admins re: proposals for teaching English via songwriting & poetry #ELTchat
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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@SueAnnan And just like that I talked myself back into MI (kind of) for the second time tonight. Thanks #ELTchat
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OUPELTGlobal
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7/3/2012
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2:55 P.M.
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Hey everyone, don't forget the OUP/ELTchat do at IATEFL - https://t.co/X1CRd2ym #eltchat
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SueAnnan
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7/3/2012
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2:56 P.M.
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@carldowse tweeted a good list of material at the beginning of the week. Will see if I can find it #ELTchat
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:56 P.M.
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@ShiftParadigm I meant cause adult EFL courses are aimed at a specific subject rather than a range of subjects at school #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:56 P.M.
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@teflerinha @Marisa_C Well sooner rather than later but up to you #ELTchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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2:56 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: RT @OUPELTGlobal: Hey everyone, don't forget the OUP/ELTchat do at IATEFL - https://t.co/oz2cQ5UY #eltchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:56 P.M.
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@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C When do you need it by? #eltchat
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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2:56 P.M.
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Multiple Intelligence Lesson Plan I http://t.co/CKyTfbx7 - some more lesson plans to stimulate intelligences. #eltchat. #edchat.
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:56 P.M.
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RT @OUPELTGlobal: Hey everyone, don't forget the OUP/ELTchat do at IATEFL - https://t.co/oz2cQ5UY #eltchat
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SophiaKhan4
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7/3/2012
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2:57 P.M.
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thanks @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C and everyone - very interesting #eltchat
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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2:57 P.M.
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Multiple Intelligences | Discovery Education http://t.co/AcfXd99B #eltchat
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esolcourses
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7/3/2012
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2:57 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: RT @OUPELTGlobal: Hey everyone, don't forget the OUP/ELTchat do at IATEFL - https://t.co/9inumNRn #eltchat
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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2:57 P.M.
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#ELTchat RT @JosetteLB exactly. It's about knowing your students and building from there. Theory is theory.'Working with' is teaching
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esolcourses
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7/3/2012
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2:57 P.M.
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@louisealix68 @NikkiFortova @ShiftParadigm especially during #eltchat, when the tweets tend to go whizzing by at around 70mph! :-)
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:57 P.M.
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@SueAnnan #eltchat Thanks, sounds good
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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2:57 P.M.
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@michaelegriffin yeah - n in India more than the Ss it's the school n the colleagues n sometimes the parents that'd ask for this. #eltchat.
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:58 P.M.
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@louisealix68 hmmmm yes but we established earlier that MI and learning styles are not necessarily the same albeit closely related #eltchat
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esolcourses
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7/3/2012
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2:58 P.M.
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thanks for another great #eltchat everyone, and to today's mods @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C & @rliberni! catch you later :-)
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:58 P.M.
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@teflerinha Noooooo!!!!! #ELTchat
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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2:58 P.M.
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RT @ELTchat: RT @OUPELTGlobal: Hey everyone, don't forget the OUP/ELTchat do at IATEFL - https://t.co/ePZcCm3s #eltchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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2:58 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Super than you for volunteering #ELTchat Going out of my comfort zone ;)
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ELTchat
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7/3/2012
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2:58 P.M.
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RT @OUPELTGlobal: Hey everyone, don't forget the OUP/ELTchat do at IATEFL - https://t.co/ePZcCm3s #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:58 P.M.
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RT @cherrymp: Multiple Intelligences | Discovery Education http://t.co/ou6VW4Vz #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:58 P.M.
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@SophiaKhan4 thx for joining see u again #eltchat
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leoselivan
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7/3/2012
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2:58 P.M.
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@OUPELTGlobal that;s what I feel too but ironically its been taken up by us, Eng teachers more than other subjects as far as I know #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:59 P.M.
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@SueAnnan Share useful Apps and tips for using iPads in the ELT classroom. #eltchat
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worldteacher
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7/3/2012
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2:59 P.M.
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Thanks to everyone on #eltchat esp. @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden and @rliberni . Missed bits due to poor internet connection. look fwd to summary
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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2:59 P.M.
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@rliberni @Shaunwilden @OUPELTGlobal n do remember the Ts joining from #Myanmar for the Glasgow conference! 1 is really interested. #eltchat
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breathyvowel
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7/3/2012
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2:59 P.M.
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RT @esolcourses: thanks for another great #eltchat everyone, and to today's mods @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C & @rliberni! catch you later :-)
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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2:59 P.M.
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@esolcourses thank u sweet sue for joining #eltchat
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SueAnnan
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7/3/2012
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2:59 P.M.
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What's tonight's topic? #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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2:59 P.M.
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@esolcourses See you tonight for apps #ELTchat
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ShiftParadigm
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7/3/2012
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3:00 P.M.
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@NikkiFortova @esolcourses @louisealix68 -- thank heaven for caffeine. Get's my brain revving so I can stay up with #eltchat
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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3:00 P.M.
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Very interesting chat today! Lots to mug up on :-) thnx to fab mods as ever @Shaunwilden & @Marisa_C both w/lots of MI :-) #eltchat
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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3:00 P.M.
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N some scholarly articles for MI from Google Scholar: http://t.co/ZRYwHiZk #eltchat.
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Marisa_C
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7/3/2012
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3:00 P.M.
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Transcript will be up soon #eltchat @teflerinha Watch this space! #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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3:00 P.M.
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RT @louisealix68: #eltchat > thx all. Now off for some 'gustatory' learning in the kitchen ;)
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louisealix68
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7/3/2012
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3:00 P.M.
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#eltchat > thx all. Now off for some 'gustatory' learning in the kitchen ;)
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yitzha_sarwono
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7/3/2012
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3:00 P.M.
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RT @cherrymp: Multiple Intelligences | Discovery Education http://t.co/AcfXd99B #eltchat
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SueAnnan
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7/3/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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Back to the chalkface! #ELTchat
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michaelegriffin
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7/3/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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I feel like we need multiple intelligences to keep up with #ELTchat! Thanks all and especially the super excellent mods. Take care #ELTchat
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teflerinha
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7/3/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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#eltchat Thanks everyone, even worth waiting for lunch!
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ShiftParadigm
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7/3/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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@louisealix68 @OUPELTGlobal @Marisa_C - important distinction. Thanks. #eltchat
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BobK99
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7/3/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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RT @OUPELTGlobal: Gotta go - thanks everyone. #eltchat > me too. Thx
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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@yitzha_sarwono hello there - so you were here!!! #eltchat.
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JosetteLB
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7/3/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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MT @worldteacher: Thanks to everyone on #eltchat esp. @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden and @rliberni . > Short visit but had fun :) Thank you!
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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RT @Shaunwilden: Tonights #eltchat is revisiting a topic - Share useful Apps and tips for using iPads in the ELT classroom.
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NikkiFortova
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7/3/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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Thank you for the useful chat and thank you @shaunwilden @Marisa_C and @rliberni for moderating #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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Tonights #eltchat is revisiting a topic - Share useful Apps and tips for using iPads in the ELT classroom.
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rliberni
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7/3/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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RT @cherrymp: N some scholarly articles for MI from Google Scholar: http://t.co/ZRYwHiZk #eltchat.
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SueAnnan
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7/3/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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Thanks everyone. Very interesting #ELTchat
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kevchanwow
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7/3/2012
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3:01 P.M.
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Thanks mods for a great time. Couldn't quite get ahold of what I wanted to say. But left with a lot to think about. #ELTchat
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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3:02 P.M.
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RT @rliberni: RT @Shaunwilden: Tonights #eltchat is revisiting a topic - Share useful Apps and tips for using iPads in the ELT classroom.
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Shaunwilden
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7/3/2012
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3:02 P.M.
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@leoselivan During the party? Might be tricky but stayed tuned to the #eltchat blog for more info on whats we're doing at #iatefl
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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3:02 P.M.
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RT @esolcourses: thanks for another great #eltchat everyone, and to today's mods @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C & @rliberni! catch you later :-) > "
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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3:03 P.M.
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@teflerinha :-o - that's worth a praise! #eltchat.
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cherrymp
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7/3/2012
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3:03 P.M.
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RT @michaelegriffin: I feel like we need multiple intelligences to keep up with #ELTchat! #ELTchat - same feeling here!!!
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