| username |
time |
status |
| Marisa_C |
12:00 PM |
Welcome all to #ELTchat - for the next hour my tweets decicated to Needs Analysis Join us and tweet experiences and resources |
| Marisa_C |
12:01 PM |
If you are new to #ELTchat ask me @Shaunwilden or @barbsaka for help and remember to use the #ELTchat hashtag on all yr tweets! |
| SueAnnan |
12:02 PM |
Do we all use needs analysis with adults? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:02 PM |
So all set for #ELTchat? |
| Shaunwilden |
12:03 PM |
@SueAnnan at the last school i worked in we did in-company but not in-school #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:03 PM |
Don't know if we have any #2012evo guests in the house, but welcome to #eltchat if you're here :) |
| Marisa_C |
12:03 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: So should we do some sort of survey to find out what peoples needs are re needs? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:03 PM |
So should we do some sort of survey to find out what peoples needs are re needs? #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
12:04 PM |
RT @PatrickAndrews:... Prob the best article on needs analysis #eltchat!'This page belongs to a service that you are not authorised to use. |
| barbsaka |
12:04 PM |
@UHGCareers Please stop spamming the #eltchat stream |
| Marisa_C |
12:04 PM |
So NA seems to be used more for ESP courses rather than scholl courses? #ELTchat |
| esolcourses |
12:04 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: So should we do some sort of survey to find out what peoples needs are re needs? #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
12:04 PM |
#eltchat Great to be here. The discussion topic is creating a needs survey for our students? |
| SueAnnan |
12:05 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @PatrickAndrews very true - It's ok to do NA in L1 then #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:05 PM |
@PatrickAndrews very true - It's ok to do NA in L1 then #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:05 PM |
@Shaunwilden try blocking @YHGCareers and reporting as spam? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:05 PM |
RT @PatrickAndrews: @Shaunwilden Sometimes there are problems with surveys as people are not always linguistically aware of needs #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:05 PM |
@Shaunwilden Sometimes there are problems with surveys as people are not always linguistically aware of needs #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:05 PM |
RT @barbsaka: @UHGCareers Please stop spamming the #eltchat stream - hear hear cant get rid of the bloody thing |
| Marisa_C |
12:06 PM |
@PatrickAndrews title and publication pls to R West article? #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:06 PM |
@BobK99 Sorry - I have access to uni libraries. Richard West article - it's very good. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:07 PM |
@PatrickAndrews Yes but you need somewhere to start #ELTchat |
| barbsaka |
12:07 PM |
I do NA with conversation classes, too. Sometimes just the illusion of control :) #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:07 PM |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C I suspect observation of needs is more useful than surveys #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:07 PM |
@jankenb2 Yes sort of - Your experience with needs analysis with adult learners in TEFL. The ifs, whys and hows." #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:08 PM |
@barbsaka @Shaunwilden FYI - @UHGCareers tweets are promoted tweets (i.e. they have paid to have them appear in #eltchat stream) |
| Marisa_C |
12:08 PM |
@PatrickAndrews May well be true in some cases but NA makes Ss more aware that there are needs to be defined #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:08 PM |
RT @barbsaka: I do NA with conversation classes, too. Sometimes just the illusion of control :) #eltchat me too Barbara |
| rliberni |
12:08 PM |
For the next hour my tweets are dedicated to #eltchat sorry bit late got held up |
| SueAnnan |
12:09 PM |
@rliberni sometimes they don't really know what they want #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:09 PM |
@rliberni remotely? Meaning you do via the web? #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:09 PM |
I tend to assess the needs (and wants ) of my stds remotely before they arrive so I can be ready - can be risky tho! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:09 PM |
@esolcourses Oh that's why I can't rid of that stupid thing #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:10 PM |
@Marisa_C Yes, I think you are right #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:10 PM |
RT @esolcourses: RT @barbsaka: @esolcourses @Shaunwilden Good way to get me to NEVER do business with @UHGCareers :) #eltchat |
| DebCapras |
12:10 PM |
#teachingEnglish #eltchat NA in 1-to-1 always takes access/affinity to technology as well as language needs. In advance email. Discuss f2f |
| BusSpot |
12:10 PM |
#teachingEnglish #eltchat NA in 1-to-1 always takes access/affinity to technology as well as language needs. In advance email. Discuss f2f |
| rliberni |
12:10 PM |
@SueAnnan I agree the problem with doing it at 1st lesson is you can't really prepare so need some idea & then confirm here #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:10 PM |
@jankenb2 Needs Analysis #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:10 PM |
RT @barbsaka: @esolcourses @Shaunwilden Good way to get me to NEVER do business with @UHGCareers :) #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:10 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C not sure if you can delete promoted tweets, tbh - tho' from a marketing POV, seems like an own goal to me #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:10 PM |
@Marisa_C #eltchat Language Learning 27 "Needs analysis in Language Teaching" |
| barbsaka |
12:10 PM |
@esolcourses @Shaunwilden Good way to get me to NEVER do business with @UHGCareers :) #eltchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:11 PM |
RT @barbsaka: @UHGCareers Please stop spamming the #eltchat stream |
| barbsaka |
12:11 PM |
@SueAnnan My students LOVE to be asked what they think they need to work on, but perception doesn't always match reality #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:11 PM |
@Shaunwilden usually email or Skype plus email #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:11 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: #eltchat needs very different to wants |
| DebCapras |
12:11 PM |
@SueAnnan Hi ! #teachingEnglish #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:11 PM |
@BobK99 Oh thanks! I have it - :-) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:11 PM |
@rliberni yes but then they turn up and ask for something different #eltchat |
| evanfrendo |
12:11 PM |
#eltchat needs very different to wants |
| Shaunwilden |
12:11 PM |
@BusSpot Why 'always'? Surely it can be done f2f? #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:11 PM |
@SueAnnan mine always do (not nec what they need) but he who pays the piper... #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:11 PM |
@DebCapras Hi Deborah #teachingEnglish #eltchat |
| BobK99 |
12:11 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @PatrickAndrews title and publication pls to R West article? #eltchat! if it's any help - http://t.co/2Ef31ghT |
| esolcourses |
12:12 PM |
RT @barbsaka @SueAnnan My students LOVE to be asked what they think they need to work on, but perception doesn't always match needs #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:12 PM |
RT @barbsaka @SueAnnan My students LOVE to be asked what they think they need to work on, but perception doesn't always match needs #eltchat |
| DebCapras |
12:12 PM |
@Shaunwilden True - but I often send out email NA in advance - gets students thinking - gives time to prepare #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:12 PM |
@barbsaka true Barbara - the spill effect of NA doesn't work on ALL ss #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:12 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: @rliberni sometimes they don't really know what they want #eltchat ] or sometimes they do, but you are not placed to offer it |
| SueAnnan |
12:12 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: #eltchat needs very different to wants |
| evanfrendo |
12:13 PM |
#eltchat needs involve other stakeholders too - eg course sponsors, department managers etc |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:13 PM |
RT @barbsaka: @SueAnnan My students LOVE to be asked what they think they need to work on, but perception doesn't always match reality #eltchat |
| juanalejandro26 |
12:13 PM |
RT @esolcourses: RT @barbsaka @SueAnnan My students LOVE to be asked what they think they need to work on, but perception doesn't always match needs #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
12:13 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @esolcourses: RT @barbsaka: @esolcourses @Shaunwilden Good way to get me to NEVER do business with @UHGCareers :) #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:13 PM |
@SueAnnan but at least they are committed to what they asked for to an extent #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:13 PM |
There are some formal ways of doing NA (e.g. Qaires etc) and some informal ones which every T can use - know of any? #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:13 PM |
@SueAnnan then part of the NA has to be a 'contract' it can change #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:13 PM |
@SueAnnan then part of the NA has to be a 'contract' it can change #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:13 PM |
RT @esolcourses:sometimes they dont rlly know wht they wnt #eltchat ] or sometimes they do, but U R not placed 2 offer it. Yes gd point |
| SueAnnan |
12:13 PM |
RT @esolcourses:sometimes they dont rlly know wht they wnt #eltchat ] or sometimes they do, but U R not placed 2 offer it. Yes gd point |
| barbsaka |
12:14 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: From my view there is an element of learner learning (training) in helping Ss see what their needs really are. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:14 PM |
@barbsaka that's very interesting!!! wow #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:14 PM |
@evanfrendo True re stakeholders but often they don't actually agree as to what the needs are #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:14 PM |
@barbsaka @SueAnnan From my view there is an element of learner learning (training) in helping Ss see what their needs really are. #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:14 PM |
Interestingly, my older kids' classes have a better grasp of their actual "needs" than my adults :) #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:14 PM |
@SueAnnan @evanfrendo also should not be limited by current needs - should think of potential needs (eg if get a better job) #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:14 PM |
@esolcourses I find they want sthing & you compromise then demonstrate & work on what they need too - it becomes obvious #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:14 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: needs involve other stakeholders too - eg course sponsors, department managers etc #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:14 PM |
@DebCapras @DebCapras It's a good idea was just contemplating how this fits in with the way a language school works #eltchat |
| DebCapras |
12:15 PM |
@evanfrendo depends who paying as well #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:15 PM |
@michaelegriffin Fully agree about the learner training value of needs analysis #eltchat |
| SaeedMobarak |
12:15 PM |
For adult learners I prefer giving students attempt to use English before they have mastered it.#eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:15 PM |
@barbsaka adults can be unrealistic about what they want s'times #eltchat kids go with the flow IME #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:16 PM |
@barbsaka I agree a lot is about learner training but they(adults) will only want to pay for what they want initially #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:16 PM |
@rliberni I think so. Adults: I want to be able to listen to movies (can't understand my normal speaking voice) #eltchat |
| evanfrendo |
12:16 PM |
#eltchat if we take ELF into account, NA is all about understanding the future context / analysing specific discourse patterns & language |
| esolcourses |
12:16 PM |
IMO, it's important to focus on learner needs rather than course/org requirements - otherwise, little (if any) point to doing them #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:17 PM |
RT @jankenb2: So producing the right kinds of ?s for the NA is impt.> I agree. But one size doesn't fit all #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:17 PM |
@barbsaka I think you can help them achieve this and the training part is for them to see the gap that has to be bridged #eltchat |
| evanfrendo |
12:17 PM |
@DebCapras :-) always #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:17 PM |
@evanfrendo Agree it is important to think of future as well as present #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:17 PM |
@SaeedMobarak Agreed and the NA is a way for them to show this #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:17 PM |
Learning preferences - should they go into an NA questionnaire? #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:17 PM |
@barbsaka I also sometimes think of NA as menu of possible things that we could work on n have SS choose/select/rank possibilities @ELTchat |
| SaeedMobarak |
12:17 PM |
Adult learners needs more chance than others to attempt using English#eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:17 PM |
@rliberni yes, agree that usually happens, in most cases #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:17 PM |
@rliberni Kids: I need to work on my writing, or I need to practice spelling :) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:18 PM |
I also think you have to revisit the NA later in the course to see if needs have changed#ELTchat |
| esolcourses |
12:18 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Learning preferences - should they go into an NA questionnaire? #eltchat ] not essential IMO, but could prove useful/helpful |
| barbsaka |
12:18 PM |
@michaelegriffin Agreed. I always tell students that we can practice skills in any context #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:19 PM |
@rliberni we do to, but it doesn't test speaking and writing, so it falls down if that's what they need #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
12:19 PM |
@michaelegriffin @SueAnnan #eltchat A NA is will lead to a instructional framework. So producing the right kinds of ?s for the NA is impt. |
| rliberni |
12:19 PM |
@SueAnnan I use a v simple grammar/vocab test that is v accurate on gen level so a good guide but there's' always more! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:19 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: I also think you have to revisit the NA later in the course to see if needs have changed#ELTchat > stocktaking pts |
| Shaunwilden |
12:19 PM |
So are there certain questions that HAVE to be in NA? #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:20 PM |
@jankenb2 my NA is simply to identify where a std is and create a programme to get them to where they have to be #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:20 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: 1 problem is that few teachers have evr studied discourse analysis , so how cn they analyse future language needs? #eltchat |
| SaeedMobarak |
12:20 PM |
@Shaunwilden I prefer to give adult learners chance to choose the topics they like to learn #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:20 PM |
How would you set up a NA to produce the right sort of framework? @jankenb2 ? #eltchat |
| evanfrendo |
12:20 PM |
one problem is that few teachers have ever studied discourse analysis , so how can they analyse future language needs? #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
12:20 PM |
@barbsaka #eltchat we are using NA in a very loose way. A NA for a uni or NA for a cert to get job, or NA to meet state/gov standards? |
| Shaunwilden |
12:21 PM |
RT @barbsaka: How would you set up a NA to produce the right sort of framework? @jankenb2 ? #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:21 PM |
@jankenb2 s'times it will involve a company but mostly it's personal #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:21 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: 1 problem is that few teachers have sttudied discourse analysis , so how can they analyse future language needs? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:22 PM |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C M3 of the delta pretty much forces you to create a NA #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:22 PM |
@SueAnnan we do cover discourse - one of the lan systems assignment #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
12:22 PM |
@SueAnnan @evanfrendo #eltchat to replace discourse analysis use scenario and challenge them with novel language use. |
| rliberni |
12:22 PM |
@SueAnnan I have this too I use Skype a bit and have a writing assessment but they never do it! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:22 PM |
@evanfrendo good point abt discourse - absent from most Tefl progs - only at DELTA level #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:22 PM |
@Marisa_C good reason for Discourse Anal on the DELTA/DipTESOL programmes? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:23 PM |
oh great they re gone! #eltchat |
| evanfrendo |
12:23 PM |
@jankenb2 can u clarify scenario? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:23 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @SueAnnan @Marisa_C M3 of the delta pretty much forces you to create a NA #eltchat > yes now and pre modular roo |
| SueAnnan |
12:23 PM |
@Shaunwilden So does the CertIBET #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:23 PM |
@rliberni Can get them to tell you about themselves I suppose #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:24 PM |
@rliberni Yes I had 2 beginners whose daughter did theirs. It was very useful #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
12:24 PM |
@Marisa_C @evanfrendo RE: DAnal #eltchat C (2009) Jonassen on how post sec ed should structure lessons in argumentation. It w/apply in #elt |
| rliberni |
12:24 PM |
Once had a std (pre-Inter) get his wife (adv) to do assessmnt & prepared an advanced programme on the strength of it ! #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
12:25 PM |
@evanfrendo #eltchat case-based learning using problems they select or define. Similar to PBL but enhanced to elicit more complex language. |
| SueAnnan |
12:25 PM |
@rliberni great. I have such a mix of students it's not as easy #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:25 PM |
@SueAnnan on face to face most come to improve fluency so speaking is central anyway #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:25 PM |
@jankenb2 makes a good point re different types of NA--formal (help get Ss to meet standards) and informal (help direct class) #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:25 PM |
@SueAnnan at pres I'm doing some IELTS so can actually make this more structured #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:25 PM |
@Marisa_C #eltchat I think getting to know you0type activities can be great informal NA in early stages of a course. Lots of info to collect |
| BobK99 |
12:25 PM |
@Marisa_C #eltchat - Not for me ;-( |
| rliberni |
12:26 PM |
RT @barbsaka: Which type of NA do you use in your classes? Does you work within a set framework, or do you use it to create your syllabus? #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:26 PM |
Which type of NA do you use in your classes? Does you work within a set framework, or do you use it to create your syllabus? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:26 PM |
@jankenb2 that would depend on level of sts #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:26 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @michaelegriffin: #eltchat I think getting to no u type activities can be great informal NA in early stages of a course. |
| rliberni |
12:26 PM |
@SueAnnan mine mostly 1:1 or max of 6 #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:26 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: #eltchat I think getting to no u type activities can be great informal NA in early stages of a course. |
| _Heather_Taylor |
12:27 PM |
RT @VAMCE2010: New Post: English Apps for Middle School by @ShireenRichards http://t.co/wylcDMam #tlchat #slide2learn #engchat #eltchat #ipadapp |
| sergiopantojajr |
12:27 PM |
RT @SchoolOfEnglish: Great collection of pages on English idioms http://t.co/RC6FtFR7 #engchat #eltchat #esl via @cybraryman1 |
| evanfrendo |
12:27 PM |
@jankenb2 ok I think i use "simulation" to describe this #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:27 PM |
I put them in the global filter on tweetdeck and they are gone #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:27 PM |
@barbsaka I do the latter #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:27 PM |
RT @UHGCareers #GreaterConnections Chat is 11AM CST today. Can’t wait to meet u & answer questions ] Look 4ward to it ;-) 5pm GMT #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:28 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: here's a list of needs analysis tools I blogged about almost two years ago http://t.co/kD3LoGTJ #eltchat |
| evanfrendo |
12:28 PM |
here's a list of needs analysis tools I blogged about almost two years ago http://t.co/kD3LoGTJ #eltchat |
| _Heather_Taylor |
12:28 PM |
English Apps for Middle School by @ShireenRichards http://t.co/5Wb8e3rK #tlchat #slide2learn #engchat #eltchat #ipadapp†@myen |
| Marisa_C |
12:28 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin #eltchat getting to know you0type activities can be great informal NA in early stages of a course. Lots of info |
| jankenb2 |
12:29 PM |
@barbsaka I teach 2 classes, Acad English 4 a private language school and 2nd w/com devt agency for B Eng dif contexst = dif NA's. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:29 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: here's a list of needs analysis tools I blogged about almost two years ago http://t.co/vYW7Opab #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:29 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: here's a list of needs analysis tools I blogged about almost two years ago http://t.co/7UOpABGC #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:29 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: I put them in the global filter on tweetdeck and they are gone #ELTchat - Yay tht worked |
| SueAnnan |
12:30 PM |
with classes we need more negotiated syllabus, as everyone thinks they need diff. things#ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:30 PM |
@jankenb2 so your NA focuses mainly on EAP stuff or do u include other Qs as well #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:30 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @evanfrendo: here's a list of needs analysis tools I blogged about almost two years ago http://t.co/B06ixq1l #eltchat |
| evanfrendo |
12:31 PM |
@rliberni compromise :-) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:31 PM |
RT @rliberni: What happens when the needs of sts are not the needs of the employer - any suggestions? #eltchat This is quite a common issue |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:31 PM |
@evanfrendo Great tools - I think shadowing could be particularly fruitful #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:31 PM |
What happens when the needs of stds are not the needs of the employer - any suggestions? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:31 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: with classes we need more negotiated syllabus, as everyone thinks they need diff. things#ELTchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:32 PM |
@rliberni Interesting question. We might teach needs that lead to them getting better job elsewhere #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:32 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: @rliberni compromise :-) Yes compromise, the sts usually understands #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:32 PM |
@theteacherjames yes, that's quite common #ELTchat |
| juanalejandro26 |
12:32 PM |
ESP?? RT @rliberni: What happens when the needs of stds are not the needs of the employer - any suggestions? #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:32 PM |
@jankenb2 NA would be very important for you then, right? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:32 PM |
@SueAnnan I had some trouble with neg. syllabus. "You're the teacher, tell us what to do!" Had to explain, "sorry, not my style!" #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:32 PM |
@evanfrendo can you give examples? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:33 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: #ELTchat I made up a "comfort survey" for NA for a few years/jobs ago. Here it is http://t.co/caIcgDOf |
| rliberni |
12:33 PM |
@Marisa_C had 1 clash where the boss wanted the std to do one thing, she wanted another & neither were possible language-wise #eltchat |
| evanfrendo |
12:33 PM |
@rliberni explain to all stakeholders the different perspectives, invite sponsors to observe class, get all to agree on priorities #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:33 PM |
@rliberni I'd try to find the middle way, tick some of the employers boxes but mainly concentrate on the st. #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:33 PM |
#ELTchat I made up a "comfort survey" for NA for a few years/jobs ago. Here it is https://t.co/qeQM9ERP |
| jankenb2 |
12:34 PM |
@Shaunwilden @rliberni #eltchat What % of syll do the Ss own? Is t/room for student input in an auth way? eg grading, projs, coll or grp wk? |
| Marisa_C |
12:34 PM |
@michaelegriffin comfort survey looks like your syllabus - cld be used as a Self assessment tool at end of course #ELTchat |
| evanfrendo |
12:34 PM |
important to remember that the teacher is also one of the stakeholders #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:34 PM |
@juanalejandro26 So how do you find out what they need to learn? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:34 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: #ELTchat I made up a "comfort survey" for NA for a few years/jobs ago. Here it is http://t.co/TWQbfGKr |
| rliberni |
12:34 PM |
RT @PatrickAndrews: @rliberni Interesting question. We might teach needs that lead to them getting better job elsewhere #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:34 PM |
@evanfrendo True that needs/wants are different, but many private language students don't differentiate #eltchat |
| juanalejandro26 |
12:34 PM |
I teach English for Specific Purposes (ESP) and depending on the area, they will learn what they need #ELTChat |
| juanalejandro26 |
12:35 PM |
@Shaunwilden well, in my case it's a university and they study basic English first. and the last 2 levels we teach them vocabulary #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:35 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: important to remember that the teacher is also one of the stakeholders #eltchat Good point! |
| Shaunwilden |
12:35 PM |
@jankenb2 @rliberni I think it depends on context for example in a Private LS probably little #ELTchat |
| BobK99 |
12:35 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: ... more negotiated syllabus, as everyone thinks they need diff. things#ELTchat! I try to do just that - mixed success tho' |
| esolcourses |
12:36 PM |
RT @Marisa_C RT @rliberni What happens when the needs of stds are not the needs of the employer - any suggestions? #eltchat > go undercover |
| michaelegriffin |
12:36 PM |
RT @Marisa_C comfort survey looks like your syllabus-cld be used as a Self assessment tool at end of course #ELTchat >nice!did revisit a bit |
| rliberni |
12:36 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: This book has an excellent chapter on needs analysis: http://t.co/fFsoSJCV #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:36 PM |
This book has an excellent chapter on needs analysis: http://t.co/fFsoSJCV #eltchat |
| juanalejandro26 |
12:36 PM |
@Shaunwilden if it's engineering, then the vocabulary will be on that area, for instance #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:36 PM |
@BobK99 yes sometimes a framework to negotiate from- helps the weaker ones #ELTchat |
| fionamau |
12:37 PM |
#eltchat Hi all! Just in the door. What's the topic? The Lingua Franca one? |
| esolcourses |
12:37 PM |
RT @Marisa_C RT @rliberni can be a problem when courses are funding driven, rather than driven by learner demand/needs... #eltchat |
| evanfrendo |
12:37 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: RT @Marisa_C comfort survey looks like your syllabus-cld be used as a Self assessment tool at end of course #ELTchat >nice!did revisit a bit |
| Shaunwilden |
12:37 PM |
@juanalejandro26 Fair enough but isnt that a case of the uni assuming their needs? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:37 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: This book has an excellent chapter on needs analysis: http://t.co/fzbZtDol #eltchat> Oh yes |
| evanfrendo |
12:37 PM |
At the moment I am working with Germans who need to use Eng in China - most of my NA is about how to understand Chinglish! #eltchat |
| fionamau |
12:38 PM |
@Shaunwilden Ah, ok - will lurk until I can catch up. Anyone else got some add at the top of the #eltchat stream? V annoying! |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:38 PM |
@SueAnnan Yes, but would they always know? Would they really want to say we want to keep our employees down? Don't know. #eltchat |
| BusSpot |
12:38 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: one problem - few teachers have ever studied discourse analysis ,so how can they analyse future language needs? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:38 PM |
@fionamau Nah its needs anaylsis #ELTchat |
| juanalejandro26 |
12:38 PM |
what we try to do is having ss who can handle real situations. So it's not only vocabulary, but how to use it in real life #ELTChat |
| SueAnnan |
12:38 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: At the moment i'm wrkn w/ Germans who need 2 use Eng in China - most of my NA is abt how 2 understand Chinglish! #eltchat |
| juanalejandro26 |
12:39 PM |
@Shaunwilden yes, indeed. but it was created for the first English teachers there. they studied students needs #ELTchat |
| barbsaka |
12:39 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @fionamau Yes we found that if you put it into the tweetdeck global filter it goes #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:39 PM |
@fionamau Yes we found that if you put it into the tweetdeck global filter it goes #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:39 PM |
@fionamau block user name in your tweetdeck global filter #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:39 PM |
@PatrickAndrews Why are you presuming that they want to keep them down? #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
12:39 PM |
@rliberni @evanfrendo #eltchat When it comes to NA how much tacit knowledge of teaching is needed vs knowing stu pop, abil and their envron? |
| evanfrendo |
12:41 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: OK can we move #ELTchat on a bit? Once you have your results what do you do with them? Do all Ts have syllabus design skills? |
| SaeedMobarak |
12:41 PM |
Actually students like to learn what helps them in future in general.do you agree with me #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:41 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: OK can we move #ELTchat on a bit? Once you have your results what do you do with them? Do all Ts have syllabus design skills? |
| barbsaka |
12:41 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: OK can we move #ELTchat on a bit? Once you have your results what do you do with them? Do all Ts have syllabus design skills? |
| Marisa_C |
12:41 PM |
OK can we move #ELTchat on a bit? Once you have your results what do you do with them? Do all Ts have syllabus design skills? |
| BusSpot |
12:41 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: here's a list of needs analysis tools I blogged about almost two years ago http://t.co/Isczyfmu #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:41 PM |
@SueAnnan I am not assuming that. The question seemed to assume it. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:42 PM |
@BobK99 Use the global filter in the settings of tweetdeck #ELTchat |
| barbsaka |
12:42 PM |
I try to give students what they really need in the context of what they think they need/want #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:42 PM |
I design a syllabus and then take it back to the student for modification or agreement#ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:42 PM |
@SaeedMobarak Doesnt they presume they know what they will need i nthe future :-) #ELTchat |
| BobK99 |
12:42 PM |
@fionamau #eltchat Yes. I've tried blocking it - and even deleting the column/starting a fresh one. No dice :-( |
| web20education |
12:42 PM |
Top 10 #socialmedia #curation tools who will change research in #education20 http://t.co/F3CfAE7z #elearning #edchat #ukedchat #eltchat #elt |
| rliberni |
12:43 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: RT @SueAnnan: I design a syllabus and then take it back to the student for modification or agreement#ELTchat Me too! |
| Marisa_C |
12:43 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: RT @SueAnnan: I design a syllabus and then take it back to the student for modification or agreement#ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:43 PM |
@Shaunwilden all #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:43 PM |
@SueAnnan Is this for classes or 1-2-1 or both? #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:43 PM |
@esolcourses good point sometimes there isn't room to manoeuvre #eltchat |
| evanfrendo |
12:43 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: I design a syllabus and then take it back to the student for modification or agreement#ELTchat |
| barbsaka |
12:44 PM |
@michaelegriffin thanks! #ELTchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:44 PM |
a book i strongly recommend for syllabus design (also with a great NA chapter!) is http://t.co/69GicsUd #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:44 PM |
@rliberni Yes, even we get it wrong sometimes. It's always good to check #ELTchat |
| web20education |
12:44 PM |
RT @barbsaka: I try to give students what they really need in the context of what they think they need/want #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:45 PM |
@Marisa_C I had to teach myself! Nowadays I do an overall course outline & create lesson ideas as the course goes along. #ELTchat |
| esolcourses |
12:45 PM |
RT @barbsaka: I try to give students what they really need in the context of what they think they need/want #eltchat ] same here |
| SueAnnan |
12:45 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: worst thing is having to go firm on a syllabus before meeting the Ss #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:45 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: a book i strongly recommend for syllabus design (also with a great NA chapter!) is http://t.co/69GicsUd #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:45 PM |
@rliberni good point Berni #eltchat |
| evanfrendo |
12:45 PM |
worst thing is having to go firm on a syllabus before meeting the Ss #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:45 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: a book i strongly recommend for syllabus design (also with a great NA chapter!) is http://t.co/ABemw8I7 #ELTchat |
| juanalejandro26 |
12:45 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: a book i strongly recommend for syllabus design (also with a great NA chapter!) is http://t.co/69GicsUd #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:45 PM |
@SueAnnan this can also act as the safeguard we mentioned earlier i they have agreed then later changes must be negotiated #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:46 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: RT @evanfrendo: worst thing is having to go firm on a syllabus before meeting the Ss #eltchat ] agree absolutely |
| theteacherjames |
12:46 PM |
@Shaunwilden You stop it now! #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:46 PM |
@theteacherjames What you mean you design a course outline - you don't allow a course to just emerge ;-) #ELTchat |
| esolcourses |
12:46 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: OK can we move #ELTchat on a bit? Once you have your results what do you do with them? Do all Ts have syllabus design skills? |
| jankenb2 |
12:46 PM |
@TweetDeck block UHCareers. They are spamming #eltchat. Thank you. |
| SueAnnan |
12:46 PM |
@evanfrendo could you give a provisional syllabus instead? #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:46 PM |
@jankenb2 true but if you have no idea at all about the std then a good NA is necessary #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:47 PM |
@SueAnnan: RT @evanfrendo if people ask me to devise a syllabus pre-course I say no, and explain why #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:47 PM |
@Marisa_C I'd be interested to see that. #ELTchat |
| SaeedMobarak |
12:47 PM |
@Shaunwilden because studets presume that they kow what will help them.So we have to design for them what they want #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:47 PM |
@theteacherjames I have some great syllabus samples from their case study assignments #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:47 PM |
@theteacherjames WHAT! i asked a genuine question ;-) #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:47 PM |
@theteacherjames I'll try to pu up a couple of DELTA projects (pre modular) useful for 1-2-1 Ts (need to check with cands first) #ELTchat |
| barbsaka |
12:48 PM |
fyi tweetdeck is freezing up on me (or you're all being really quiet) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:48 PM |
@Marisa_C Oh no a mod has just told me off, I know there is an issue of censorship on the 'net 2day but never thought it'd come to #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:48 PM |
RT @DebCapras: Design a flexible syllabus and revisit NA regularly - make sure you're on track. Regular feedback - not just at end. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:48 PM |
RT @DebCapras: Design a flexible syllabus and revisit NA regularly - make sure you're on track. Regular feedback - not just at end. #eltchat |
| DebCapras |
12:48 PM |
Design a flexible syllabus and revisit NA regularly - make sure you're on track. Regular feedback - not just at end. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:49 PM |
@Shaunwilden :-D #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:49 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: @SueAnnan yes, provisional is always good, but some sponsors don't like it #eltchat that's a difficult one to overcome |
| evanfrendo |
12:49 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @theteacherjames What you mean you design a course outline - you don't allow a course to just emerge ;-) #ELTchat lol |
| BobK99 |
12:50 PM |
@barbsaka #eltchat #eltchat Stick around! - Mine unfroze after a few mins |
| Shaunwilden |
12:50 PM |
@esolcourses @SueAnnan @evanfrendo But doesnt this merely act as an example to show what you can do? #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:50 PM |
@Shaunwilden I guess you deserved it :-) #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:51 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: To recap: to do a proper NA what knowledge and skills do Ts need? #ELTchat |
| jankenb2 |
12:51 PM |
@esolcourses @Marisa_C #eltchat NA is 2 group Ss in levels- vertically or horiz ability. Its data. I can quickly org grps according 2 task |
| Marisa_C |
12:51 PM |
To recap: to do a proper NA what knowledge and skills do Ts need? #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:51 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: Do you often find that students want to change their needs in the middle of the course? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:51 PM |
Do you often find that students want to change their needs in the middle of the course? #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:52 PM |
@evanfrendo Yes I agree, def not set in stone but examples etc etc are good #ELTchat |
| evanfrendo |
12:52 PM |
has anyone been involved in critical NA? eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:52 PM |
I think you need the ability to take a snap shot as a starting point #eltchat |
| jankenb2 |
12:52 PM |
@SueAnnan #eltchat Ss changing needs in middle of course is called insight! |
| DebCapras |
12:52 PM |
@SueAnnan Can happen - after promotion, new project, new responsibilities - or worse - new boss... #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:52 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: Do u find that students want to change their needs in the middle of the course? #ELTchat it can def happen, change of job etc |
| evanfrendo |
12:52 PM |
@Shaunwilden my solution where the sponsor insists on a syllabus beforehand is to make it as vague as possible #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:52 PM |
I always tell my trainees that FLEXIBle will be their middle name #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:53 PM |
@evanfrendo can you elaborate please? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:53 PM |
@Marisa_C Awareness of different learning styles is very useful. #ELTchat |
| evanfrendo |
12:53 PM |
has anyone been involved in critical NA? #eltchat |
| DebCapras |
12:53 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: @Shaunwilden make it as vague as possible - true - and adapt once you meet the Ss #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:53 PM |
@jankenb2 LOL #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:53 PM |
RT @jankenb2: @SueAnnan #eltchat Ss changing needs in middle of course is called insight! |
| theteacherjames |
12:53 PM |
@SueAnnan I do. I think this mainly comes from their expectations changing as the course goes on rather than other factors. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:54 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: critical needs analysis http://t.co/6K8h0KfE #eltchat |
| SaeedMobarak |
12:54 PM |
@SueAnnan flixibaity in any course lessons is very important #eltchat |
| Edu_Trends |
12:54 PM |
I think you need the ability to take a snap shot as a starting point #eltchat http://t.co/QJduEVBY |
| SueAnnan |
12:54 PM |
@evanfrendo Cheers Evan #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:54 PM |
RT @evanfrendo: critical needs analysis http://t.co/ZaIH4jxQ #eltchat |
| evanfrendo |
12:54 PM |
critical needs analysis http://t.co/ZaIH4jxQ #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:54 PM |
@theteacherjames @SueAnnan and also finding out more about what they don't know or are not able to do #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:54 PM |
@evanfrendo well I supervise a lot of assignments which include it #eltchat |
| leoselivan |
12:55 PM |
needs analysis for Bus Eng http://t.co/28MwUaMC #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:55 PM |
RT @rliberni: @theteacherjames @SueAnnan and also finding out more about what they don't know or are not able to do #eltchat |
| SaeedMobarak |
12:55 PM |
@esolcourses @SueAnnan @evanfrendo Why you don't prefer to devise pre-course? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:55 PM |
RT @rliberni: @theteacherjames @SueAnnan and also finding out more about what they don't know or are not able to do #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:55 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @Marisa_C Awareness of different learning styles is very useful. #ELTchat |
| ElizabethSACLI |
12:56 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: And a short srticle by Alex Case on Needs Analysis http://t.co/LaKDhcml #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:56 PM |
@michaelegriffin @SueAnnan Yes me too esp in a year long course though a lot new teachers fail to realize this #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:56 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: What about test design and syllabus design skills? #ELTchat very important! |
| SueAnnan |
12:56 PM |
@michaelegriffin I suppose it depends on the length of their course though #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:56 PM |
What about test design and syllabus design skills? #ELTchat |
| evanfrendo |
12:56 PM |
@SaeedMobarak i would like to be able to adjust syllabus once I meet the Ss #eltchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:56 PM |
@Shaunwilden @SueAnnan #ELTchat I'd be shocked if Ss needs and their perceptions of them didnt change |
| theteacherjames |
12:57 PM |
@Marisa_C Seems like test design is a very neglected area in training to me, but you'll have more idea about that than me. #ELTchat |
| jankenb2 |
12:57 PM |
@Marisa_C #eltchat NA constrct rqs knowldge content, w/qual and quant meas, wrting objectives, Bloom's or sim taxonomy, Ss environ, stndrds |
| esolcourses |
12:57 PM |
@SueAnnan @evanfrendo depends how U approach it, perhaps? Did them when I was a NT, but not these days... pointless/twice the work! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:57 PM |
@Marisa_C what about it? #ELTchat |
| esolcourses |
12:58 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan @evanfrendo yes, it acts an example to show what you can do, but not a good use of t's time, IMO #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:58 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @theteacherjames: @Marisa_C Awareness of different learning styles is very useful. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:58 PM |
So what is the conclusion? #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:58 PM |
RT @leoselivan: needs analysis for Bus Eng http://t.co/28MwUaMC #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:58 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: RT @Marisa_C: What about test design and syllabus design skills? #ELTchat very important! |
| SueAnnan |
12:59 PM |
@Shaunwilden Yes I think so #ELTchat |
| michaelegriffin |
12:59 PM |
RT @SueAnnan @michaelegriffin I suppose it depends on the length of their course though #ELTchat >> good point |
| Marisa_C |
12:59 PM |
Can't Rt you for some reason but agree @jankenb2 #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:59 PM |
@SueAnnan Do the NA to aid the syllabus design? #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
1:00 PM |
RT @jankenb2 #eltchat NA cnstrct rqs knwldge contnt, w/qual & quant meas, wrtng objctives, Blm's or sim taxonmy, Ss envirn, stndrds |
| Shaunwilden |
1:00 PM |
Tonight's #eltchat is Describe the advantages and disadvantages of Social Networks for language teachers. |
| rliberni |
1:00 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: Whatever the result of NA is, we shouldn't underestimate the effect of simply asking the sts what they want. It's all too rare. #eltchat |
| rliberni |
1:00 PM |
OK must dash thanks everyone for another fab #eltchat also to gr8 co-mods @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden & @barbsaka no NA's needed! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
1:00 PM |
Ok so who is going to write the summary? #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
1:00 PM |
Whatever the result of NA is, we shouldn't underestimate the effect of simply asking the sts what they want. It's all too rare. #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
1:01 PM |
tweetedck gone mad #ELTChat |
| rliberni |
1:01 PM |
RT @esolcourses: @theteacherjames @Marisa_C agree test design seems to be a neglected area in training. Shouldn't assume all t's know how do it #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
1:01 PM |
@esolcourses @theteacherjames @Marisa_C Sounds like a topic for a future #eltchat |
| DebCapras |
1:01 PM |
@Shaunwilden NA to personalize an "off-the-shelf-company-driven" course #ELTchat |
| jankenb2 |
1:01 PM |
@theteacherjames #eltchat Test design is/n as critical as dev effective obj & assess instrs. When assess skills are high, NA skills R 2. |
| rliberni |
1:01 PM |
@theteacherjames I absolutely agree with this James what we feel they need may not all be relevant to them #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
1:01 PM |
@theteacherjames @Marisa_C agree test design seems to be a neglected area in training. Shouldn't assume all t's know how do it #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
1:02 PM |
@esolcourses @theteacherjames @Marisa_C Someone add it to the blog for next week ;-) #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
1:02 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Tonight's #eltchat is Describe the advantages and disadvantages of Social Networks for language teachers. |
| esolcourses |
1:02 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @esolcourses @theteacherjames @Marisa_C Sounds like a topic for a future #eltchat ] and a good one, at that! |
| evanfrendo |
1:02 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: tweetedck gone mad #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden |
1:02 PM |
RT @DebCapras: @Shaunwilden NA to personalize an "off-the-shelf-company-driven" course #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
1:03 PM |
do we have a summary writer? #eltchat |
| fionamau |
1:03 PM |
@BobK99 #eltchat Same here- What's more, the whole thing crashed - couldn't get anything at all to work! So I gave up - I'll try the evening |
| esolcourses |
1:03 PM |
@Shaunwilden will try and remember... am actually working on a talk atm on similar lines, as it happens :-) #eltchat #syncronicity |
| DebCapras |
1:03 PM |
Thanks everyone - got to dash #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
1:03 PM |
Thanks as always go to the great moderators, But wouldn't be a good#ELTchat without all great participant points of view. Thanks everyone |
| Marisa_C |
1:04 PM |
Cheers @evanfrendo #eltchat thx for joining |
| SueAnnan |
1:04 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: do we have a summary writer? #eltchat I suppose I could do it. Back to work next week and will have no time then:-( |
| Shaunwilden |
1:04 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: do we have a summary writer? #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
1:04 PM |
Thanks for another great #eltchat, everyone, and to today's moderators @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C & @rliberni - catch you all later! |
| theteacherjames |
1:04 PM |
@Shaunwilden @esolcourses @Marisa_C Let's try and remember between us! #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
1:05 PM |
@jankenb2 Nice to meet you :-) #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
1:05 PM |
@UHGCareers My question 4 U is what made U think it would be appropriate to target #eltchat with an ad for your chat? #GreaterConnections |
| jankenb2 |
1:05 PM |
@esolcourses @Shaunwilden #eltchat Have fun tonight, 4 me it/w B REM zone time. I'll look for the transcripts. Been a fun one...my 1st. Caoi |
| StudyAbroadCan |
1:05 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: And a short srticle by Alex Case on Needs Analysis http://t.co/LaKDhcml #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
1:06 PM |
@jankenb2 Good to meet you, hope to see you in a future #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
1:07 PM |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C I'll get onto the transcript in a few mins, sandwich first #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
1:07 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @Shaunwilden @esolcourses @Marisa_C Let's try and remember between us! #eltchat ] sounds like a plan :-) |
| rliberni |
1:08 PM |
RT @esolcourses: RT @Shaunwilden: Tonight's #eltchat is Describe the advantages and disadvantages of Social Networks for language teachers. |
| SueAnnan |
1:08 PM |
@Shaunwilden NO rush #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
1:10 PM |
Thank you all for joining today and for a great conversation - see you later for #ELTchat No 2! |
| michaelegriffin |
1:10 PM |
thoroughly enjoyed #eltchat. Thanks! |
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