username |
time |
status |
alastairjgrant |
12:02 PM |
I spoke to soon but... this corpus http://t.co/jszQqiMT v v useful for SS to get words from context #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:02 PM |
@SueAnnan Hang on its midday what you doing here :-) #eltchat Good to see you |
Marisa_C |
12:02 PM |
@SueAnnan Hi Sue nice to see you #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
12:02 PM |
hello #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:03 PM |
Just say yes if from the US and you voted on this topic #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
12:03 PM |
@Shaunwilden on holiday now :-) #eltchat |
MrWriteCzech |
12:03 PM |
@Shaunwilden James Thomas (in Brno) mentioned the New Model Corpus but I can't find it on the internet. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:03 PM |
Anyone here from the US voters who suddenly decided corpora was the thing for today? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:04 PM |
@MrWriteCzech Arh yes, James is a tad obsessed by them , hang on his colleague sent me some links may be it is one of those #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:04 PM |
@yearinthelifeof He he - do they show on the US map on twtpoll? #ELTChat |
cybraryman1 |
12:04 PM |
It's time for #ELTchat NOW 7 am EST Topic Using corpora in our teaching: what is available and how can we best use it? |
yearinthelifeof |
12:04 PM |
@Marisa_C How about the Canadians? #ELTChat |
teflgeek |
12:04 PM |
Hi all, sorry a bit late #eltchat |
bethcagnol |
12:04 PM |
Gonna grab a sandwich and then will join y'all for #ELTCHAT |
harrisonmike |
12:04 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Anyone here from the US voters who suddenly decided corpora was the thing for today? #eltchat |
harrisonmike |
12:05 PM |
#eltchat RT @harrisonmike: Big bonus re corpora is there are lots of webby, easy to access apps, e.g. http://t.co/w7nbrULC |
Shaunwilden |
12:05 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: Big bonus re corpora is there are lots of webby, easy to access apps, e.g. http://t.co/5THaFjmF #eltchat |
yearinthelifeof |
12:05 PM |
@Marisa_C Just had a look at the map and it's all those islands up at the top :-) #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:05 PM |
Anyway corpora....#eltchat |
teflgeek |
12:05 PM |
corpora - they've takne away the collins cobuild now I think. #eltchat |
MrWriteCzech |
12:05 PM |
I use the BNC corpus as well but James said it is 15 years out of date. #ELTCHAT |
alastairjgrant |
12:05 PM |
http://t.co/9JgMfW1b - also... all words in context with synonyms etc. - help SS become more autonomous. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:05 PM |
The person who suggested the topic cant make it but she aint in the US/ Canada #eltchat |
Begabungs |
12:06 PM |
RT @cybraryman1: It's time for #ELTchat NOW 7 am EST Topic Using corpora in our teaching: what is available and how can we best use it? |
Shaunwilden |
12:06 PM |
Spoken corpus - searchable European Youth Language file with videos and tapescripts. http://t.co/I1QmXUgm #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
12:07 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Spoken corpus - searchable European Youth Language file with videos and tapescripts. http://t.co/s3SWFkOc #eltchat |
reasons4 |
12:07 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Spoken corpus - searchable European Youth Language file with videos and tapescripts. http://t.co/I1QmXUgm #eltchat |
michaelegriffin |
12:07 PM |
My top recommendation for Ss is always the British national corpus |
SueAnnan |
12:07 PM |
What do you use them for?#ELTchat |
reasons4 |
12:07 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: #eltchat RT @harrisonmike: Big bonus re corpora is there are lots of webby, easy to access apps, e.g. http://t.co/w7nbrULC |
SueAnnan |
12:08 PM |
@theteacherjames I do too, but not with students :-( #ELTchat |
MarianSteiner |
12:08 PM |
Teaching through #eltchat (again). Hope to catch the summary and / or see you on the later one! |
theteacherjames |
12:08 PM |
@SueAnnan I use them occasionally to check the most natural combination of words in a phrase, with the accent on 'natural'. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:08 PM |
http://t.co/LLbyU1OL USing the BNC but much more user friendly #ELTchat |
yearinthelifeof |
12:08 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: RT @Shaunwilden: Spoken corpus - searchable European Youth Language file with videos and tapescripts. http://t.co/s3SWFkOc #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:08 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: What do you use them for?#ELTchat - Yes please share ideas, i've used them with teachers but not sts |
BobK99 |
12:09 PM |
Not spot on time for #eltchat , but half an hour's corpus tweets to trawl through :-( Thanks @Marisa_C for stopping the rot! |
teflgeek |
12:09 PM |
a nice nik peachy article here: http://t.co/X591vlgL #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:09 PM |
I first started using corpora when I taught a Dip translation course (Greek to English) and used to check my intuitions #eltchat |
reasons4 |
12:09 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: My top recommendation for Ss is always the British national corpus |
SueAnnan |
12:10 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: @theteacherjames @SueAnnan You do have to watch the source tho - #eltchat good point |
bethcagnol |
12:10 PM |
Anyone know if a medical English corpus is out there? #eltchat |
harrisonmike |
12:10 PM |
@theteacherjames @SueAnnan You do have to watch the source tho - corpus may be online/Brit/American/spoken English/language #eltchat |
theteacherjames |
12:10 PM |
@SueAnnan I find it useful if the S asks a question about a very specific situation & I'm not sure which way is most common. #ELTchat |
marcusmurilo |
12:11 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Spoken corpus - searchable European Youth Language file with videos and tapescripts. http://t.co/I1QmXUgm #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:11 PM |
And another one claiming release in 2008 http://t.co/8GGDgFas #eltchat |
PatrickAndrews |
12:11 PM |
@Marisa_C It is very useful to check intuitions for academic English #eltchat |
theteacherjames |
12:11 PM |
@harrisonmike @SueAnnan True. Normally use http://t.co/KGxT9iv7, and then it goes through the James filter! #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:11 PM |
A list of learner corpora around the world - some of them are free http://t.co/Hui5QuYt #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:12 PM |
So we're sharing lots of links and usefulness for us - what about for students? #eltchat |
bethcagnol |
12:12 PM |
I think corpora help tchs with the "what's 'more' correct" questions we can get from students. #ELTCHAT |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:12 PM |
Hi everyone, a bit late but I'm here. Just a need a minute to catch up #eltchat |
PatrickAndrews |
12:12 PM |
@bethcagnol Is there anything on the Michigan academic one on medicine? I'm not sure #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:12 PM |
@PatrickAndrews We also use concordancers for checking up intuitions - v useful for adcanced learners #eltchat |
alastairjgrant |
12:12 PM |
http://t.co/8F3w4NkC English accents corpus - video edition! #eltchat my SS love this |
teflgeek |
12:12 PM |
Another wide selection of corpus concordancer links here: http://t.co/tXszlXvP #eltchat |
reasons4 |
12:12 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: A list of learner corpora around the world - some of them are free http://t.co/Hui5QuYt #eltchat |
bethcagnol |
12:13 PM |
@PatrickAndrews Would you have the link by any chance? #ELTCHAT I can check. |
SueAnnan |
12:13 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: So we're sharing lots of links and usefulness for us - what about for students? #eltchat |
yearinthelifeof |
12:13 PM |
Instant 'what's more correct' tool http://t.co/RREnqitN #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:13 PM |
@yansinday #eltchat is on Using corpora in our teaching: what is available and how can we best use it? |
Marisa_C |
12:13 PM |
Good page on Graham Davies' ICT website http://t.co/9jDV0jil on how to use concordancers #ELTchat (has he quit twitter?) |
teflgeek |
12:13 PM |
@bethcagnol I would have said they answer "what's more used" than correct! #eltchat |
yansinday |
12:13 PM |
what's the topic of #ELTchat? |
reasons4 |
12:13 PM |
RT @teflgeek: Another wide selection of corpus concordancer links here: http://t.co/tXszlXvP #eltchat |
PatrickAndrews |
12:13 PM |
@Shaunwilden Really useful #eltchat |
yearinthelifeof |
12:13 PM |
I had to use corpus data to create a vocab syllabus. Anyone needing advice... http://t.co/dJYCF7Pi #ELTchat |
bethcagnol |
12:14 PM |
@teflgeek True. Thought sts don't often know corpora exist. So they always ask me "Which answer is more correct" ..... #ELTCHAT |
michaelegriffin |
12:14 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden we're sharing lots of links and usefulness for us - what about for students? #eltchat > think google N BNC are a good start |
teflgeek |
12:14 PM |
do a concordance search around "if" and learners search for conditional patterns, #eltchat |
harrisonmike |
12:14 PM |
Bummed - http://t.co/DRHQXbHV used 2b neat and smart, and had examples of words being used in tweets - tworpus? but now changed #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
12:15 PM |
RT @ELTExperiences: So how 'correct' is language in a Corpus compared to natural and self-emerging language? #ELTChat |
bethcagnol |
12:15 PM |
@teflgeek (cont) so I consider it my job to inform them of what's more common. So yes, you're right. #ELTCHAT |
PatrickAndrews |
12:15 PM |
@teflgeek Thanks - really useful. I've bookmarked it #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:15 PM |
So how 'correct' is language in a Corpus compared to natural and self-emerging language? #ELTChat |
alastairjgrant |
12:15 PM |
http://t.co/9JsLr2ss @Shaunwilden: - another one for the SS - brit vs. US enlglish accents :) #eltchat |
ljp2010 |
12:16 PM |
#ELTchat Hi all. Have just caught up but can only stay 1o minutes :( Uses for sts? Create own gapped sentence exercises for CAE/CPE sts. |
Marisa_C |
12:16 PM |
Here is another useful tool for learners Visu word http://t.co/ZAdluRUH #eltchat - didn't have time to check but @NikPeachey blog post on it |
dreadnought001 |
12:16 PM |
Useful collocation site my students use www.just-the-word.com/ #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:16 PM |
Links to anything and everything to do with language corpora http://t.co/m7Y3P3K9 (links provided by topic setter) #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
12:16 PM |
@teflgeek prescriptive, or descriptive? #eltchat |
BobK99 |
12:16 PM |
RT @alastairjgrant: ... this corpus...v useful for SS to get words from context #eltchat! Same corpus but I prefer BYU's earch engine 1/2 |
PatrickAndrews |
12:16 PM |
@bethcagnol http://t.co/qGdAi62S #eltchat |
reasons4 |
12:16 PM |
RT @alastairjgrant: http://t.co/9JsLr2ss @Shaunwilden: - another one for the SS - brit vs. US enlglish accents :) #eltchat |
teflgeek |
12:16 PM |
@bethcagnol gotta teach to speak proper, right? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:17 PM |
RT @dreadnought001: Useful collocation site my students use http://t.co/wMLt9yGu #eltchat > this is lovely i use it too "Just the Word" |
Shaunwilden |
12:17 PM |
RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Uses for sts? Create own gapped sentence exercises for CAE/CPE sts. |
theteacherjames |
12:17 PM |
@ELTExperiences I only take it as an indication of the commonality of use. Use it to back up my instincts, not inform them. #ELTChat |
bethcagnol |
12:17 PM |
@PatrickAndrews Thanks! Bookmarked! #ELTCHAT http://t.co/IoXIpBWa |
Shaunwilden |
12:17 PM |
RT @dreadnought001: Useful collocation site my students use http://t.co/WU5x6Ztf #eltchat - oh that's a nice easy to use one |
teflgeek |
12:17 PM |
Another Nik Peachy find (from last month) Just the Word visual thesaurus concordancer http://t.co/H0YjTTlm #eltchat |
harrisonmike |
12:17 PM |
@ELTExperiences What colour is a piece of string? depends on the corpus - spoken vs written, and origin #eltchat |
alastairjgrant |
12:18 PM |
This is all to do with the SS - remove the dictionaries and show them a corpus. Much more cognitive value so vocab is gonna stick! #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:18 PM |
@theteacherjames but is Corpus appropriate with ELF and L2 to L2 speakers using English? #ELTChat |
BobK99 |
12:18 PM |
2/2 #eltchat ...http://tinyurl.com/qtwxer .Hmm - perhaps simpler interface is less daunting. But BYU also gives you COCA w/ same search eng. |
PatrickAndrews |
12:18 PM |
@bethcagnol Think we will be doing a lot of bookmarking today :-) #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:18 PM |
@harrisonmike but using a Corpus could be too prescriptive - "We don't use language like that ... we say it like that". #ELTChat |
reasons4 |
12:18 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Links to anything and everything to do with language corpora http://t.co/m7Y3P3K9 (links provided by topic setter) #eltchat |
bvlahos |
12:18 PM |
RT @marisa_c: Here is another useful tool for learners Visu word http://t.co/is79moyO #eltchat - didn't have time to check but... |
harrisonmike |
12:19 PM |
@ELTExperiences but corpora can be based on spoken language, therefore 'authentic' examples of usage rather than dry vocab book #eltchat |
ljp2010 |
12:19 PM |
#ELTchat @alastairjgrant Agree! Give the word in 10 + different contexts rather than just one. |
BobK99 |
12:19 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Anyone here from the US voters who suddenly decided corpora was the thing for today? #eltchat: V glad you did! |
Marisa_C |
12:19 PM |
@teflgeek @SueAnnan #eltchat I think use of corpora and concs kind of excludes being prescriptive, or not? |
Shaunwilden |
12:19 PM |
@alastairjgrant Why remove the dictionaries? #eltchat |
bethcagnol |
12:19 PM |
@PatrickAndrews Wow....Playing with the site...and thus getting distracted! http://t.co/IoXIpBWa #ELTCHAT |
dreadnought001 |
12:19 PM |
@Shaunwilden yes agreed, I like lextutor.ca personally but students find it too complicated! #eltchat |
alastairjgrant |
12:20 PM |
@ljp2010 exactly! get THEM to work for it! #eltchat |
theteacherjames |
12:20 PM |
@ELTExperiences Good question. I think of it as a teacher tool, not for Ss &... #ELTChat |
ELTExperiences |
12:20 PM |
@harrisonmike but authentic examples of L2 users of English. Perhaps there should be a corpus of L2 speakers of English. #ELTChat |
yearinthelifeof |
12:20 PM |
@dreadnought001 @Shaunwilden @eltexperiences http://t.co/PLmNnQDp sth for you to read later on how to ease students load #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:20 PM |
@alastairjgrant But the dictionaries provide more than the meaning - I'd have thought the tools work well together #eltchat |
bethcagnol |
12:20 PM |
@teflgeek Well...my sts (in France) are particularly obsessed with speaking perfect English. #ELTCHAT |
alastairjgrant |
12:20 PM |
@Shaunwilden - they look up a word, they see the definition, they forget it #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:20 PM |
@dreadnought001 I can see why they need to be of a quite a good level #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:21 PM |
@theteacherjames Just thinking out loud but when considering ELF, I suppose it is a tool and can be used. #ELTChat |
PatrickAndrews |
12:21 PM |
@ELTExperiences @theteacherjames Some such as MICASE do have ELF example #eltchat |
teflgeek |
12:21 PM |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan #eltchat - not necessarily. Corpus data reflects authentic use. Authentic use is not necessarily correct. |
theteacherjames |
12:21 PM |
@ELTExperiences ...I would hope the corpus is a reflection of international usage, but know it probably isn't. #ELTChat |
SueAnnan |
12:21 PM |
@ELTExperiences had a good webinar on that on Monday #ELTChat |
harrisonmike |
12:21 PM |
@ELTExperiences Gooooooood idea #props #eltchat |
bethcagnol |
12:21 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: @ELTExperiences but corpora can be based on spoken language, therefore 'authentic' examples of usage rather than dry vocab book #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:22 PM |
A lot of Coursebooks now use a the Cambridge Corpus to inform lanaguage and vocab so there is definitely a place. #ELTChat |
Marisa_C |
12:22 PM |
@teflgeek Perhaps not - but there are many prescriptive grammars which truly incorrect as well - term not abt accuracy of info #eltchat |
theteacherjames |
12:22 PM |
@ELTExperiences Yes, I just don't think it should be taken as gospel. #ELTChat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:22 PM |
@theteacherjames Isn't a corpus based on native speakers of English? Or is that a misconception on my part? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:22 PM |
@ELTExperiences @harrisonmike Is this what you mean? http://t.co/mEE3rcco - it's an ELF one #ELTChat |
bethcagnol |
12:22 PM |
@teflgeek I could totally see myself assigning a corpus search as a homework assignment. Have to think about this more. #ELTCHAT |
ELTExperiences |
12:22 PM |
@PatrickAndrews @theteacherjames That sounds interesting. #ELTChat |
alastairjgrant |
12:22 PM |
@Shaunwilden - nope - too easy for SS to rely on them. We know that getting them to work things out has more value #eltchat |
JosetteLB |
12:22 PM |
@michaelegriffin @alastairjgrant thx for the tip re: BNC.I usually teach my Ts http://t.co/ux6blVwF May have to rethink things #ELTchat |
ljp2010 |
12:22 PM |
#ELTchat @alastairjgrant How about dictionary + corpus egs + personalisation? Time consuming but thorough. |
alastairjgrant |
12:23 PM |
@ljp2010 #eltchat def agree re personalisation!! AND they can make rude sentences about their teacher :) |
teflgeek |
12:23 PM |
RT @teflgeek: @Marisa_C fair point. #eltchat |
reasons4 |
12:23 PM |
#ELTChat isn't google one of the best copora around, put in the word or phrase, hit search and students can see the item in context. |
theteacherjames |
12:23 PM |
@OUPELTGlobal I don't know, but if it is that would be a serious flaw for us in ELT. #eltchat |
PatrickAndrews |
12:23 PM |
@teflgeek @Marisa_C @SueAnnan Maybe but how else do we define correct in English but by stating what is used #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:23 PM |
@alastairjgrant hmm we're going to have to disagree on this - I'd rather my sts a used a dictionary to be honest #ELTChat |
teflgeek |
12:23 PM |
@bethcagnol a good, if unacheiveable, target! #eltchat |
yearinthelifeof |
12:23 PM |
Meeting at half past... enjoy the rest of the chat, folks #ELTChat |
Marisa_C |
12:24 PM |
@reasons4 Fully agree re google - that's what i prefer to suggest to fl learners too - easier to view #ELTChat |
bethcagnol |
12:24 PM |
@reasons4 That's how I get students to see if something is commonly used, yes. #ELTCHAT |
MrChrisJWilson |
12:24 PM |
#eltchat Seams to be an undercurrent of a debate regarding teaching prescriptive and descriptive grammar/vocab going on. |
ELTExperiences |
12:24 PM |
RT @reasons4: #ELTChat isn't google one of the best copora around, put in the word or phrase, hit search and students can see the item in context. |
alastairjgrant |
12:24 PM |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat so you wouldn't use corpora at all...? |
harrisonmike |
12:24 PM |
@yearinthelifeof seeeeeee ya #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:24 PM |
@reasons4 Thats a good point! #ELTChat |
PatrickAndrews |
12:24 PM |
@OUPELTGlobal @theteacherjames Some such as MICASE have non native speaker examples. Think one at Warwick too #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:24 PM |
@Shaunwilden @harrisonmike That is great. Perhaps a learners corpus is needed 2 help teachers decisions on vocabulary and grammar #ELTChat |
Marisa_C |
12:24 PM |
RT @reasons4: #ELTChat isn't google one of the best copora around, put in word or phrase, hit search & students can see the item in context. |
yearinthelifeof |
12:24 PM |
@teflgeek @bethcagnol Depends how you go about it #ELTchat |
bethcagnol |
12:25 PM |
@OUPELTGlobal @theteacherjames http://t.co/oLyxhG6H the Vienna-Oxford International Corpus of English. #ELTCHAT |
alastairjgrant |
12:25 PM |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat - I just think things need to be made a bit more 2.0, no? :) |
ELTExperiences |
12:25 PM |
I suppose that providing students the opportunity to view a Corpus and Dictionary at home is in their best interest. #ELTChat |
Shaunwilden |
12:25 PM |
@alastairjgrant No greatly no #ELTChat |
dreadnought001 |
12:25 PM |
How many people adapt corpus data to create exercises for Ss? Don't much myself but would like to hear ideas about it!! #eltchat |
alastairjgrant |
12:26 PM |
@harrisonmike but goodness knows my SS have learnt a LOT of English from po.rn... #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:26 PM |
I would see a corpus being very useful for ESL or visiting students in an Engl;ish-speaking country #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:26 PM |
@Shaunwilden @alastairjgrant and those dreaded electronic ones as well #ELTChat |
MrChrisJWilson |
12:26 PM |
#eltchat re the point that using corpus can teach mistakes, if these are common enough for a corpus then are they mistakes? |
teflgeek |
12:26 PM |
@PatrickAndrews @Marisa_C @SueAnnan #eltchat - I think Marisa's point is that originally prescriptive grammars were |
theteacherjames |
12:26 PM |
RT @bethcagnol: @OUPELTGlobal @theteacherjames http://t.co/oLyxhG6H the Vienna-Oxford International Corpus of English. #ELTCHAT |
Shaunwilden |
12:26 PM |
@alastairjgrant Plenty of online dictionaries :-) #ELTChat |
alastairjgrant |
12:26 PM |
@ELTExperiences hear hear! #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:26 PM |
@reasons4 one reservation often expressed abt google is amount of error in it #ELTChat |
harrisonmike |
12:26 PM |
@Marisa_C @reasons4 po. rn English!!! watchout! Seriously, check ur safesearch filters to avoid embarrassing moments #eltchat #googlecorpus |
theteacherjames |
12:26 PM |
RT @PatrickAndrews: @OUPELTGlobal @theteacherjames Some such as MICASE have non native speaker examples. Think one at Warwick too #eltchat |
dreadnought001 |
12:27 PM |
I find collocation dictionaries/sites more useful than concordance data (more manageable I suppose) #eltchat |
PatrickAndrews |
12:27 PM |
@bethcagnol Forgot about the Vienna one but very useful #eltchat |
bethcagnol |
12:27 PM |
@dreadnought001 I'm thinking of giving sts fixed expressions & telling them to do a search to see in what contexts they appear. #ELTCHAT |
ELTExperiences |
12:27 PM |
@alastairjgrant @harrisonmike I thought it was called learning languages by the pillow #ELTChat |
alastairjgrant |
12:27 PM |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat...which don't require SS to think much... |
EFLManager |
12:27 PM |
May I join? #ELTchat Did some awareness raising with students using online dictionaries and concordances. They preferred the dicts... |
teflgeek |
12:27 PM |
@PatrickAndrews @Marisa_C @SueAnnan #eltchat based on a flawed understanding of the language - taking rules from latin & greek grammars |
yearinthelifeof |
12:27 PM |
@dreadnought001 have posted links in previous tweets #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:28 PM |
Another link: WebCorp is a suite of tools which allows access to the World Wide Web as a corpus http://t.co/aTFNbXo7 #ELTChat |
reasons4 |
12:28 PM |
RT @bethcagnol: @dreadnought001 I'm thinking of giving sts fixed expressions & telling them to do a search to see in what contexts they appear. #ELTCHAT |
harrisonmike |
12:28 PM |
@alastairjgrant @ELTExperiences Probably best to keep that outside the classroom, eh, chaps? #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:28 PM |
@Shaunwilden @alastairjgrant agreed #ELTChat |
idc74 |
12:28 PM |
Business corpora research reveals most common 'chunk' of language used in business: "I don't know". Full list: http://t.co/U2AOeYku #eltchat |
PatrickAndrews |
12:28 PM |
RT @MrChrisJWilson: #eltchat re the point that using corpus can teach mistakes, if these are common enough for a corpus then are they mistakes? |
Marisa_C |
12:28 PM |
@dreadnought001 the LTP one in print have you seen it ? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:28 PM |
@ELTExperiences @alastairjgrant quite, the point I'm making is we can train sts how to use a dictionary not just give them up #ELTChat |
billpellowe |
12:28 PM |
@dreadnought001 #eltchat the late Tim Johns used to write about Data Driven Learning. I've tried but students really aren't advanced enough |
ELTExperiences |
12:29 PM |
@Marisa_C you can always get sts to get a collocation dictionary. They are really useful. #ELTChat |
EFLManager |
12:29 PM |
RT @idc74: Bus corpora research reveals most common 'chunk' in business: "I don't know". Full list: http://t.co/IxWB1tMq #eltchat > :-) |
billpellowe |
12:29 PM |
RT @idc74: Business corpora research reveals most common 'chunk' of language used in business: "I don't know". Full list: http://t.co/U2AOeYku #eltchat |
theteacherjames |
12:29 PM |
@reasons4 I think it was @cheimi10 who said that Amazon makes a great corpus. I could be wrong though! #ELTChat |
michaelegriffin |
12:29 PM |
@billpellowe @dreadnought001 #ELTchat i think there are many things that can trip SS up... like software...too much data/examples... |
Shaunwilden |
12:29 PM |
29 minutes #ELTChat |
alastairjgrant |
12:29 PM |
@harrisonmike #eltchat dunno.... Dogme would say, "let it all in..."! |
bethcagnol |
12:29 PM |
@dreadnought001 Well I find the one @teflgeek just sent me loaded with possibilities to use with sts. http://t.co/oif0mkqX #ELTCHAT |
Marisa_C |
12:29 PM |
And for collocation material the Words You Need & More Words you Need - both out of print but pioneering books for advaced Ls #eltchat |
nickkiley |
12:30 PM |
@ELTExperiences #ELTchat Collocation dictionary is easier than using concordance? For students, I mean. In your experience? |
teflgeek |
12:30 PM |
Collocation word clouds / phrasal verb spidergrams by particle - #eltchat |
BobK99 |
12:30 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: A list of learner corpora around the world - some of them are free http://t.co/kwm0kqlc #eltchat !Wow - overload or what?! |
ELTExperiences |
12:30 PM |
RT @EFLManager: RT @idc74: Bus corpora research reveals most common 'chunk' in business: "I don't know". Full list: http://t.co/IxWB1tMq #eltchat > :-) |
reasons4 |
12:30 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Another link: WebCorp is a suite of tools which allows access to the World Wide Web as a corpus http://t.co/aTFNbXo7 #ELTChat |
nickkiley |
12:31 PM |
@SueAnnan #ELTchat AH yes, lots of those about :-) |
billpellowe |
12:31 PM |
I used to use Conc on Mac. Anyone know if there's a modern version of it? #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
12:31 PM |
My young students might use a simple app on their phones #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:31 PM |
@BobK99 what;s that for? #eltchat |
bethcagnol |
12:31 PM |
@idc74 Funny...I thought it was "at the end of the day." Michael McCarthy mentioned it at a conference in France last year. #ELTCHAT |
dreadnought001 |
12:32 PM |
@yearinthelifeof thanks Adam, just trying to catch up with the stream #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:32 PM |
@nickkiley it is easier for me to prepare gapfill and collocation based exercises using a Corpus. I created one to look at grammar #ELTChat |
dreadnought001 |
12:32 PM |
@bethcagnol @teflgeek wow, that is a damn fine website (especially for those of us teaching EAP) #eltchat |
bethcagnol |
12:32 PM |
@EFLManager @idc74 Re: "I don't know" I gotta tell my French students. That's something that is culturally difficult to say. #ELTCHAT |
reasons4 |
12:33 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @reasons4 I think it was @cheimi10 who said that Amazon makes a great corpus. I could be wrong though! #ELTChat |
reasons4 |
12:33 PM |
“@Marisa_C:Fully agree re google - that's what i prefer to suggest to fl learners too - easier to view #ELTChat” I usually use the news bit |
SueAnnan |
12:33 PM |
RT @ELTExperiences: I wonder if thr is a Chav/Hoodie corpus of English. It wld B filled w/ 'innit'/'butters'/etc. Hahaha. #ELTChat>LOL |
teflgeek |
12:33 PM |
Has anyone experimented with using corpuses (Corpi?) for learner writing self correction? #eltchat |
bethcagnol |
12:33 PM |
@dreadnought001 @teflgeek No kiddin'! The ideas just started flowing when I browsed it. #ELTCHAT |
ELTExperiences |
12:33 PM |
I wonder if there is a Chav/Hoodie corpus of English. It would be filled with 'innit'/'butters'/etc. Hahaha. #ELTChat |
Marisa_C |
12:33 PM |
@ELTExperiences Collocation grids also easy to make #ELTChat |
dreadnought001 |
12:34 PM |
@nickkiley @ELTExperiences for my students yes, when they want to check if the verb+noun combo in their essay is correct or not #eltchat |
BobK99 |
12:34 PM |
RT @teflgeek: @bethcagnol ...r "what's more used" than correct! #eltchat !cCan of worms. Wear protective clothing if going there! |
reasons4 |
12:34 PM |
“@theteacherjames: I think it was @cheimi10 who said that Amazon makes a great corpus. I cld be wrong though! #ELTChat” great minds? |
patjack67 |
12:34 PM |
Anyone ever come across a Kids Corpus suitable 4 YL ELT materials writing?...Nice project for someone. #eltchat |
EFLManager |
12:34 PM |
@bethcagnol @idc74 #ELTchat Yes, in some Asian countries would be a problem, too. What should we do in that case? |
SueAnnan |
12:35 PM |
@bethcagnol LOL #ELTCHAT |
bethcagnol |
12:35 PM |
@ELTExperiences A redneck corpus would be filled with collocations like "witchadidja". = you didn't bring yo truck witchadidja? #ELTCHAT |
teflgeek |
12:35 PM |
#ELTChat @ELTExperiences there is: the BNC: http://t.co/Y4ra49Gp |
ELTExperiences |
12:35 PM |
@EFLManager @bethcagnol @idc74 perhaps this is when a corpus should be used as a guide but not a binding rule. #ELTChat |
Shaunwilden |
12:36 PM |
@SueAnnan @ELTExperiences A hoodie corpus would be useful for me - never know what people are saying half the time! #ELTChat |
bethcagnol |
12:36 PM |
@EFLManager @idc74 But it would also require in-class discussions as to why it's the most common collocation. #ELTCHAT |
alastairjgrant |
12:36 PM |
#eltchat try this for slang - Urban Dictionary :) http://t.co/GmDRY2Fb |
bethcagnol |
12:36 PM |
@EFLManager @idc74 I would do a mini lecture on corpora then. Show them the list: http://t.co/PPiKkZhq #ELTCHAT |
ELTExperiences |
12:36 PM |
@bethcagnol That's funny. #ELTChat |
theteacherjames |
12:37 PM |
RT @idc74: Business corpora research reveals most common 'chunk' of language used in business: "I don't know". Full list: http://t.co/U2AOeYku #eltchat |
bethcagnol |
12:37 PM |
@SueAnnan It's a real word! I mean it! http://t.co/Np4HIhCb :-) #ELTCHAT |
Marisa_C |
12:37 PM |
Usefull article by Costas Gavrielatos includes section on corpora in the classroom http://t.co/WOSD211n #eltchat |
MrChrisJWilson |
12:37 PM |
#eltchat probably already been mentioned [late] but isn't there some good program that can search the frequency of words in books? |
SueAnnan |
12:37 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @SueAnnan @ELTExperiences A hoodie corpus wld B useful 4 me - nevr know wht ppl R saying half the time! #ELTChat :-))) |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:37 PM |
@bethcagnol I would like to read that! #eltchat |
reasons4 |
12:37 PM |
“@harrisonmike: @Marisa_C check ur safesearch filters to avoid embarrassing moments #eltchat #googlecorpus” I suggest the news search |
Shaunwilden |
12:38 PM |
RT @MrChrisJWilson: #eltchat isn't there some good program that can search the frequency of words in books? |
ELTExperiences |
12:38 PM |
@Shaunwilden @SueAnnan or a corpus based on hoodie text messages would offer YLs to text like a 'brother' #ELTChat |
BobK99 |
12:38 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @BobK99 what;s that for? #eltchat: BYU? Brigham Young University. |
JoeMcVeigh |
12:38 PM |
Great corpus comparison of phrasal verb frequency in Brit vs Am English in latest TESOL Quarterly - avail online to TESOL Members #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:39 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson Not sure about books but I have used wordsift.com with texts and advanced sts #ELTChat |
alastairjgrant |
12:39 PM |
chav dictionary http://t.co/fYgpEoUU #eltchat |
EFLManager |
12:39 PM |
RT @bethcagnol @idc74 But it would also require in-class discussions #ELTCHAT > & lots of discussion of e.g.s? - is it always same function |
Marisa_C |
12:39 PM |
Frequency of occurence of a choice in google sometimes a deciding factor on what to use for translation studies - maybe for Ss too #eltchat |
daylemajor |
12:40 PM |
@Shaunwilden @MrChrisJWilson Try http://t.co/cobUJz5h #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:40 PM |
RT @alastairjgrant: chav dictionary http://t.co/fYgpEoUU #eltchat |
PatrickAndrews |
12:40 PM |
@Marisa_C There is an article in a book by Norton and Toohey on the use of corpora - shy it is liberating #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:40 PM |
@BobK99 #eltchat yes |
SueAnnan |
12:40 PM |
@alastairjgrant that one is way out of date :-) #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:41 PM |
@alastairjgrant I love some of the examples: “Floor it, he looks like he’s gov.” #ELTChat |
bethcagnol |
12:41 PM |
Adv classroom idea: take most common collocation from business corpus and ask sts to discuss why they are the most common. #ELTCHAT |
bethcagnol |
12:42 PM |
@EFLManager @idc74 And discussion on the intonation of these common expressions. Michael McCarthy mentioned that in his talk. #ELTCHAT |
teflgeek |
12:42 PM |
Also good article here http://t.co/moA7jTyi Mike Nelson in Guardian #eltchat |
michaelegriffin |
12:42 PM |
I enjoyed this pecha kucha @ #KOTESOL by Nicholas Groom http://t.co/ZIYrAhrz |
alastairjgrant |
12:42 PM |
@ELTExperiences , it's lush, innit? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:42 PM |
RT @bethcagnol: Adv c/room idea take most common collocation from business corpus and ask sts to discuss why they are most common. #ELTCHAT |
MrChrisJWilson |
12:42 PM |
@daylemajor: @Shaunwilden @MrChrisJWilson Try http://t.co/nck33Whr #eltchat that's the one! |
BobK99 |
12:43 PM |
RT @bethcagnol: @teflgeek ... ass. ... search as a h/w ass't...#ELTCHAT But it ends up w me doing it! Hard to get Ss to share my enthusiasm |
teflgeek |
12:43 PM |
And Bill Mascull on corpora and teaching materials: http://t.co/34RBqZpt #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:43 PM |
@bethcagnol That reminds me of asking sts to choose 5 collocations from a text, then looking to see how common/useful etc they are #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:44 PM |
@alastairjgrant there is a teacher that I work with that is always using 'innit?' with his sts. They learn that. #ELTChat |
alastairjgrant |
12:44 PM |
The circle of the English language - all the old words come back into current use... http://t.co/C0YWiESY #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:44 PM |
This is a link filled bonanza of an #eltchat, innit |
yearinthelifeof |
12:44 PM |
@dreadnought001 Tough to keep up sometimes #ELTChat |
reasons4 |
12:45 PM |
@Shaunwilden that's why I am retweeting so I can find them easily #ELTChat |
bethcagnol |
12:45 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @bethcagnol That reminds me of asking sts to choose 5 collocations from a text, then looking to see how common/useful etc they are #eltchat |
BobK99 |
12:45 PM |
RT @reasons4: #ELTChat isn't google one of the best copora ... students can see the item in context.! Yes, but WHOSE? |
Shaunwilden |
12:45 PM |
Ok 15 mins left, we got links galore and some ideas for use what else do we need to mention re corpus? #ELTChat |
Marisa_C |
12:45 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: This is a link filled bonanza of an #eltchat, innit > sure is!!! |
JoeMcVeigh |
12:46 PM |
Sorry just dropping in for a minute. Anyone rec CUP book by Reppen: Using Corpora in the Language Classroom? http://t.co/9QzkA1Qy #ELTchat |
yef13 |
12:46 PM |
RT @idc74: Business corpora research reveals most common 'chunk' of language used in business: "I don't know". Full list: http://t.co/U2AOeYku #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:46 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden We are a bit thin on ideas for use in the classroom - assumes web access in class or at home #ELTChat |
Marisa_C |
12:46 PM |
@Shaunwilden We are a bit thin on ideas for use in the classroom - assumes web access in class or at home #ELTChat |
Shaunwilden |
12:46 PM |
@reasons4 Good idea though you can always check the transcript :-) #ELTChat |
SueAnnan |
12:46 PM |
@reasons4 just wait for the summary and the links will be collected together #ELTChat |
alastairjgrant |
12:46 PM |
oops http://t.co/vnGkxw9q #eltchat |
alastairjgrant |
12:46 PM |
the BBCs official take on "innit" #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
12:47 PM |
RT @ELTExperiences: @SueAnnan I shld get my sts dn 2 Sports Direct 2 learn more abt natural language & C possible collocations #ELTChat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:47 PM |
Have been following some of the sites mentioned. Great classroom material to get sts thinking about the USE of the language #eltchat |
shikha_speaks |
12:47 PM |
RT @english247: RT @aClilToClimb Where does the greeting Merry Christmas come from? http://t.co/UiDrVAPe frm @eslreading #elt #eltchat |
alastairjgrant |
12:47 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C - i thinks it's about raising SS awareness of corpora, training them to use them and then let them free :) #eltchat |
michaelegriffin |
12:47 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden what else do we need to mention re corpus? #ELTChat >>Id love to hear how people help ss get accustomed to using corpora |
bethcagnol |
12:47 PM |
@BobK99 Yeah, that's always a challenge. My sts aren't always psyched about the same things I am. That's the nature of the job. #ELTCHAT |
BobK99 |
12:47 PM |
RT @ELTExperiences: @Shaunwilden @alastairjgrant and those dreaded electronic ones as well #ELTChat! Impressive, but often SO wrong. |
teflgeek |
12:47 PM |
@Marisa_C with the old collins cobuild, you could print off pages, give out coloured pens / pencils and let them work it out #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:47 PM |
@SueAnnan I should get my sts down to Sports Direct to learn more abt natural language and see possible collocations #ELTChat |
Marisa_C |
12:47 PM |
Are corpora more useful as research tools to the teacher and the more advanced learners? What do you think? #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:48 PM |
@BobK99 @Shaunwilden @alastairjgrant the monolingual electronic dictionaries are great but the translation dictionaries aren't good #ELTChat |
bethcagnol |
12:48 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C I'm trying guys! I'm tryin'! #ELTCHAT |
CELT_Athens |
12:48 PM |
RT @teflgeek: @Marisa_C with the old collins cobuild, you could print off pages, give out coloured pens & let them work it out #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:48 PM |
@JoeMcVeigh I have this book and it is incredibly useful to think about Corpus in the classroom. #ELTChat |
Marisa_C |
12:49 PM |
What about for peer correction? #eltchat |
michaelegriffin |
12:49 PM |
@JoeMcVeigh Re Using Corpora in the Language Classroom? amzn.to/rrFUvl #ELTchat >ithink there is some useful stuff for sure but dont love it |
Marisa_C |
12:49 PM |
@bethcagnol :-) and doing a good job! #ELTCHAT |
bethcagnol |
12:49 PM |
Classroom idea: Take common collocations and discuss the various intonations and which contexts they would be appropriate in. #ELTCHAT |
kit2kat |
12:50 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: ...do we run the risk of students becoming attached to outdated material? #ELTchat <not if we focus on equipping self-learning |
teflgeek |
12:50 PM |
Classroom idea: incorrect collocations infogap - one learner has list of collocations, one learner has error strewn text #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:50 PM |
@bethcagnol You're doing a grand job :-) #ELTChat |
ELTExperiences |
12:50 PM |
@BobK99 @Shaunwilden @alastairjgrant I rmbr a Chinese stud coming 2 me after looking at dictionary & said "From what ode are you?" #ELTChat |
SueAnnan |
12:50 PM |
As language doesn't stand still, do we run the risk of students becoming attached to outdated material? #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:50 PM |
@ELTExperiences @JoeMcVeigh I was just looking thru it on amazon and looks useful #ELTChat |
Shaunwilden |
12:51 PM |
@Marisa_C call my bluff aint played that for ages! Oh the good old days :-) #ELTChat |
miladakrajewska |
12:51 PM |
Hello, I can only stay for a sec - about enough 2 leave 2 links: http://t.co/obTu4psU & http://t.co/LaFLUREV #ELTchat |
bethcagnol |
12:51 PM |
Why not ask sts to create their own in-class corpus? Record them for 10 weeks. Sts deal with the transcribing. #ELTCHAT |
Shaunwilden |
12:51 PM |
@SueAnnan @ELTExperiences Well pick a context for that :-) #ELTChat |
ELTExperiences |
12:51 PM |
@teflgeek wonderful idea or get sts to correct collocations based on student created material or writing. #ELTChat |
Marisa_C |
12:51 PM |
Call my bluff then #eltchat with collocations |
SueAnnan |
12:51 PM |
@ELTExperiences one of mine was 'tethered' instead of 'tied up' LOL #ELTChat |
teflgeek |
12:52 PM |
@bethcagnol I like that! I can see a CPE project coming on! #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:52 PM |
@bethcagnol how would you get them to create it? It requires a lot of work and teachers have very little time or lack motivation. #ELTChat |
bethcagnol |
12:52 PM |
For fun classroom idea: Get sts to write up a corpus of their teacher to find the most common expression you use! #ELTCHAT |
Shaunwilden |
12:52 PM |
RT @michaelegriffin: #ELTChat >>Id love to hear how people help ss get accustomed to using corpora |
Shaunwilden |
12:52 PM |
RT @miladakrajewska: Hello, I can only stay for a sec - about enough 2 leave 2 links: http://t.co/KKbNHaZp & http://t.co/tDOHjZsV #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:53 PM |
@Marisa_C I used to use that one a reseating activity :-) #ELTChat |
ELTExperiences |
12:53 PM |
@Shaunwilden @bethcagnol it could work on a wiki site if there are more contributors I suppose. #ELTChat |
teflgeek |
12:53 PM |
@ELTExperiences just record one single lesson and tell them to create a corpus of common errors #eltchat |
theteacherjames |
12:53 PM |
RT @miladakrajewska: Hello, I can only stay for a sec - about enough 2 leave 2 links: http://t.co/obTu4psU & http://t.co/LaFLUREV #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:53 PM |
@ELTExperiences @bethcagnol Sounds like an ideal wiki project #ELTChat |
Marisa_C |
12:53 PM |
With a large class - mega mingle - find your collocations (getting rather silly I think :-) #eltchat |
theteacherjames |
12:54 PM |
@Marisa_C I love the expression mega mingle! I bet that's not in any corpus! :) #eltchat |
bethcagnol |
12:54 PM |
@ELTExperiences I would get the sts to do the transcripts. They do all the work. #ELTCHAT |
Shaunwilden |
12:54 PM |
I got to go deal with a plumber, enjoy the last 5 minutes and please volunteer to do the summary #ELTChat |
miladakrajewska |
12:54 PM |
RT @bethcagnol: Why not ask sts 2 cre8 their own corpus? ...>> Gr8 idea! I ask sts 2 'steal' & record chunks throughout the course. #ELTCHAT |
ELTExperiences |
12:54 PM |
@teflgeek that would be a great long term project. #ELTChat |
Marisa_C |
12:55 PM |
RT @bethcagnol fun classroom idea: Get sts to write up a corpus of their teacher to find the most common expression you use #ELTCHAT > Nice |
ELTExperiences |
12:55 PM |
RT @reasons4: RT @bethcagnol fun classroom idea: Get sts to write up a corpus of their teacher to find the most common expression you use #ELTCHAT love it |
teflgeek |
12:55 PM |
@theteacherjames @Marisa_C turn it inbto a never ending mingle http://t.co/kO7hKSks #eltchat |
reasons4 |
12:55 PM |
RT @bethcagnol fun classroom idea: Get sts to write up a corpus of their teacher to find the most common expression you use #ELTCHAT love it |
Marisa_C |
12:55 PM |
@theteacherjames ha ha no just made it up #eltchat |
SueAnnan |
12:55 PM |
@Shaunwilden it wasn't what you were thinking! Haha #ELTChat |
ELTExperiences |
12:56 PM |
@EFLManager @bethcagnol you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink it. #ELTChat |
EFLManager |
12:56 PM |
RT @bethcagnol: sts to write up a corpus of their teacher to find the most common expression you use! #ELTCHAT > Dangerous, but great ;-) |
Marisa_C |
12:56 PM |
@bethcagnol more in the direction of studyinn idiolect but can lead to their own #ELTCHAT |
BobK99 |
12:56 PM |
RT @bethcagnol: ... ask sts to create own in-class corpus? Record them for 10 weeks. Sts deal with the transc. #ELTCHAT !Brill. Must try:) |
reasons4 |
12:56 PM |
RT @theteacherjames @Marisa_C I love the expression mega mingle! I bet that's not in any corpus! :) #eltchat :-) |
reasons4 |
12:57 PM |
@bethcagnol ha ha I like it, mine you be you know and a little something, a little game a little exercise :-) #ELTChat |
alastairjgrant |
12:57 PM |
pleasure guys - must get to school now #eltchat :) |
JosetteLB |
12:57 PM |
@Shaunwilden @michaelegriffin great question! >>Id love to hear how people help ss get accustomed to using corpora. #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
12:58 PM |
@JosetteLB well like any new thing u introduce shd break it down into bite sized activities -a syllabus of introducing corpora? #ELTchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:58 PM |
@harrisonmike see yaaaaaa have a lush class. #ELTChat |
SueAnnan |
12:58 PM |
Interesting set of links, will take up a lot of time to read over. Thanks everyone #ELTchat |
theteacherjames |
12:58 PM |
RT @teflgeek: @theteacherjames @Marisa_C turn it inbto a never ending mingle http://t.co/kO7hKSks #eltchat |
ELTExperiences |
12:59 PM |
@bethcagnol: @ELTExperiences @EFLManager True.But fortunately I teach a variety of horses so there's always one group that drinks #ELTChat |
teflgeek |
12:59 PM |
also now late for work - been fun, see you all later! #eltchat |
reasons4 |
12:59 PM |
very interesting #ELTchat, thanks to all, t hanks for retweets and thanks to Mods too. |
BobK99 |
12:59 PM |
RT @bethcagnol: ...Get sts to write up a corpus of t to find the most comn expressionS you use! #ELTCHAT!Then play Buzzword Bingo - Risky:) |
ELTExperiences |
12:59 PM |
@bethcagnol @EFLManager that's so funny. #ELTChat |
Marisa_C |
1:00 PM |
@ELTExperiences good to have you back M #ELTChat |
ELTExperiences |
1:00 PM |
Thanks for the brainstorming session with #ELTChat today. It was the first time that I was back here in a long time. |
Marisa_C |
1:00 PM |
@reasons4 Cheers and see you soon #ELTchat |
Marisa_C |
1:01 PM |
Well, we have reached the end of this #ELTchat and thanks to all for participating and to my co-mod @Shaunwilden who's dealing w plumber!! |
idc74 |
1:02 PM |
@bethcagnol To clarify, "I don't know" is most common 3-word chunk. Corpora give so much info, what and how to use it is an issue. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
1:02 PM |
@Marisa_C He's vanished. hope that means i dont have to pay him! #ELTChat |
Marisa_C |
1:02 PM |
May I ask if anyone of you might be volunteering to write up the summary for this #ELTchat ? |
michaelegriffin |
1:03 PM |
Thanks all for the ELTchat. Lots of links to catch up on! Take care! |
JosetteLB |
1:03 PM |
First time at an #ELTchat I Quite the learning experience. Thanks everyone! |
alastairjgrant |
1:03 PM |
thanks @Marisa_C ! I'lll do the summary if you like! #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
1:04 PM |
@alastairjgrant @Marisa_C Super thanks Al, I'll send you the script shortly #ELTChat |
Marisa_C |
1:04 PM |
@alastairjgrant That's grand! Thanks Alastair! Shaun will be putting up link to transcript soon #eltchat |
bethcagnol |
1:04 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Thanks for being such great moderators today! #ELTCHAT |
alastairjgrant |
1:05 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C - great!! I'll sort that out today - thanks again to both of you!! #eltchat Shaun can you PM it to me too? |
Marisa_C |
1:05 PM |
@bethcagnol Mille mercis for trying to steer us in the direction of the classroom B #ELTCHAT |
BobK99 |
1:06 PM |
Thanks to all for a link-rich chat. Bye. #eltchat |
alastairjgrant |
1:06 PM |
@Shaunwilden ah you just said that! great - thank yooooooooooooooo #eltchat |
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