| username |
time |
status |
| sandymillin |
8:59 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Tonight's topic how to improve speaking skills using critical thinking - in 3 mins #ELTchat @Shaunwilden & @Marisa_C moderating |
| cerirhiannon |
9:00 PM |
for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat discussing speaking skills and critical thinking |
| hartle |
9:00 PM |
Hi everyone #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:00 PM |
RT @naomishema: Have a good chat all! Not only am I off to bed, speaking skills is not ...- LOL! #eltchat Night night Naomi |
| BobToms100 |
9:00 PM |
#eltchat Ok, EFL tweeps. Activity & coursebks & self-created materials = great, but what are ur 3 go to sites to help u? #efl #esl #eal #elt |
| EnglishOutThere |
9:01 PM |
Good question RT @e_d_driscoll: #ELTchat how are we defining critical thinking here? |
| Shaunwilden |
9:01 PM |
RT @e_d_driscoll: #ELTchat how are we defining critical thinking here? - Dunno you tell me :-) |
| e_d_driscoll |
9:01 PM |
#ELTchat how are we defining critical thinking here? |
| Shaunwilden |
9:01 PM |
Hello all welcome to tonight's #ELTchat |
| hartle |
9:01 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat discussing speaking skills and critical thinking |
| Marisa_C |
9:02 PM |
Hi everyone and welcome to #ELTchat |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:02 PM |
RT @EnglishOutThere: Good question RT @e_d_driscoll: #ELTchat how are we defining critical thinking here? |
| yearinthelifeof |
9:02 PM |
@Marisa_C My 11 from ’11: Am taking up  Adam Simpson’s challenge, well, not really a challeng... http://t.co/OBGWdQns #ELT #ELTchat #ESL |
| hartle |
9:02 PM |
RT @e_d_driscoll: #ELTchat how are we defining critical thinking here? Good question |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:03 PM |
RT @hartle: RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat so what's the topic again? how to speak to parrots? ;) (only kidding folks!) Lots of parrots in my classes |
| Marisa_C |
9:03 PM |
@hartle te he he - 500 lines #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:03 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat so what's the topic again? how to speak to parrots? ;) (only kidding folks!) Lots of parrots in my classes |
| Marisa_C |
9:03 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: for the next hour please only use the #ELTchat hashtag for tweets relevant to the chat topic |
| shaznosel |
9:03 PM |
Evening all! #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:03 PM |
for the next hour please only use the #ELTchat hashtag for tweets relevant to the chat topic |
| Shaunwilden |
9:04 PM |
So the first question posed was how are we defining CT - any answers ? #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:04 PM |
http://t.co/Jbm0fwf1 long & complicated def here - clarity, accuracy, precision, consistency, relevance, sound evidence,.... #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:04 PM |
@hartle Absolutely agree, how does one change a parrot?? #eltchat |
| jobethsteel |
9:04 PM |
Hello. Dining out and on #eltchat! |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:05 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: from wikipedia : Critical thinking is the process or method of thinking that questions assumptions #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:05 PM |
from wikipedia : Critical thinking is the process or method of thinking that questions assumptions #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:05 PM |
RT @CELT_Athens: RT @Marisa_C: Language Development for Teachers - Slides from a presentation #delta #elt #efl #eltchat http://t.co/DxRPprqD |
| Shaunwilden |
9:06 PM |
@cerirhiannon Are you quoting parrot fashion here? #ELTchat |
| hartle |
9:06 PM |
Sorry everyone #eltchat I'll try to be serious now |
| shaznosel |
9:06 PM |
CT -@hartle #eltchat TO MAKE IT THINK........ |
| cerirhiannon |
9:06 PM |
still quoting wikipedia "there is debate among educators about its precise meaning and scope" ;) #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:06 PM |
RT @shaznosel: @hartle Absolutely agree, how does one change a parrot?? #eltchat Hmm, teach it to squawk critically |
| Marisa_C |
9:06 PM |
@shaznosel hello there - what a question you have given us! #ELTchat |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:07 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Shaunwilden: Are you quoting parrot fashion here? #ELTchat > yup, totally uncritically ;) haha! |
| cerirhiannon |
9:07 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Are you quoting parrot fashion here? #ELTchat > yup, totally uncritically ;) |
| e_d_driscoll |
9:07 PM |
#eltchat debunking conspiracy theories, exsmining theology doctrine, that kind of thing? |
| hartle |
9:07 PM |
RT @shaznosel: CT -@hartle #eltchat TO MAKE IT THINK........Ha ha ha :-) |
| Marisa_C |
9:07 PM |
@hartle ;-) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:08 PM |
@yansinday Tonight's topic how to improve speaking skills using critical thinking #ELTchat |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:08 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @Shaunwilden Critical thinking - the ability to interact with a subject, & question & debate its foundations with considered ideas. #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:08 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @Shaunwilden Critical thinking - the ability to interact with a subject, & question & debate its foundations with considered ideas. #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:08 PM |
@Shaunwilden Critical thinking - the ability to interact with a subject, & question & debate its foundations with considered ideas. #ELTchat |
| yansinday |
9:08 PM |
what's the topic of #ELTchat today? |
| Shaunwilden |
9:08 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: I guess questioning assumptions/norms /givens - not being spoonfed are key factors #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:08 PM |
I guess questioning assumptions/norms /givens - not being spoonfed are key factors #eltchat |
| EnglishOutThere |
9:09 PM |
Critical thinking...the awakening of the intellect to the study of itself. http://t.co/qYx91pEd #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:09 PM |
@Marisa_C relying on evidence? #ELTchat |
| hartle |
9:09 PM |
I usually work on critical thinking with reading and the speaking comes about as a result #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:09 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @theteacherjames Adding - rational, open minded and relying on evidence #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:09 PM |
RT @shaznosel: CT - maybe to encourage SS to elaborate, be flexible, original,creative and to think for themselves..diff between us and parrots?? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:09 PM |
@theteacherjames Adding - rational, open minded and relying on evidence #ELTchat |
| shaznosel |
9:09 PM |
CT - maybe to encourage SS to elaborate, be flexible, original,creative and to think for themselves..diff between us and parrots?? #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:09 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @Shaunwilden Critical thinking - the ability to interact with a subject, & question & debate its foundations with considered ideas. #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:10 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Relying on evidence in the sense that there has to be justification for what is said. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:10 PM |
@EnglishOutThere isn't that metacognition? (actually don't have time to read that long text) #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:10 PM |
@cerirhiannon #eltchat that's where it get s difficult- so tempting to spoonfeed and then they need us by their side all the time! |
| sandymillin |
9:10 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @Shaunwilden Critical thinking - the ability to interact with a subject, & question & debate its foundations with considered ideas. #ELTchat |
| sandymillin |
9:10 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: I guess questioning assumptions/norms /givens - not being spoonfed are key factors #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:10 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C relying on evidence? #ELTchat > also personal experience as evidence? |
| hartle |
9:10 PM |
#eltchat reading between the lines and then discussion everyone's different destinations |
| jobethsteel |
9:11 PM |
#eltchat So how do you get sts to do it. Takes my Spanish uni sts months to learn. |
| hartle |
9:11 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @shaznosel @cerirhiannon And quite a lot of them want to be spoonfed #ELTchat Absolutely! So comforting |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:11 PM |
RT @sandymillin: CT - encouraging students to explore and play around with ideas, rather than accepting them without question #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:11 PM |
RT @sandymillin: CT - encouraging students to explore and play around with ideas, rather than accepting them without question #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:11 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Tonight's topic how to improve speaking skills using critical thinking - in 3 mins #ELTchat @Shaunwilden & @Marisa_C moderating |
| sandymillin |
9:11 PM |
CT - encouraging students to explore and play around with ideas, rather than accepting them without question #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:11 PM |
@theteacherjames yes that's what i meant thanks James #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:11 PM |
@shaznosel @cerirhiannon And quite a lot of them want to be spoonfed #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:11 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Relying on evidence in the sense that there has to be justification for what is said. #ELTchat |
| e_d_driscoll |
9:11 PM |
#eltchat with high speed train engineers Iget them to examine the case for their trains; with renewable energy contractors a similar process |
| theteacherjames |
9:12 PM |
@jobethsteel That's the question!! Not easy but can (should) be done. #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:12 PM |
@theteacherjames #ELTchat exaclty. how do we get ss to interact and elaborate of their own accord.? |
| EnglishOutThere |
9:12 PM |
I get Ss to record themselves speaking with speaking partners using specific scaffolded language and then listen a few times. #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:12 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @shaznosela lot of them want to be spoonfed #ELTchat > interesting balance between support and spoonfeeding at times |
| theteacherjames |
9:13 PM |
@shaznosel I think it begins by having high expectations of our Ss. Ask the questions that they haven't been asked before. #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:13 PM |
as suggested in longer version, brainstorming can be a good starting point - myabe esp'ly brainstorming qs? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:13 PM |
Very diferent to creative thinking -perhaps we shld draw distinction here? Critical thinking may be more logical & analytical #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:14 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat treat stds like other adults. Listen to them and really talk to them... > works for kids too :) |
| theteacherjames |
9:14 PM |
@Marisa_C Agreed, critical thinking is related to analysis, creative thinking to ideas. #ELTchat |
| hartle |
9:14 PM |
#eltchat treat stds like other adults. Listen to them and really talk to them... |
| shaznosel |
9:14 PM |
@hartle #eltchat like! start with a topic and then brainstorm and evaluate. I think ss have the lang skills but not the creative skills |
| Shaunwilden |
9:14 PM |
@theteacherjames 'ask questions they havent been asked before" - an interesting thought, surely get them them to ask ?s too #ELTchat |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:14 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @theteacherjames: @shaznosel Ask the questions that they haven't been asked before. #ELTchat > get them to ask each other the qs too |
| sandymillin |
9:14 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Very diferent to creative thinking -perhaps we shld draw distinction here? Critical thinking may be more logical & analytical #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:14 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @shaznosel Ask the questions that they haven't been asked before. #ELTchat > get them to ask each other the qs too |
| Marisa_C |
9:15 PM |
I think - pls correct me if I am wrong - that all talking abt ANY type of speaking activity -T activs specific subject matter #ELTchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:15 PM |
@hartle say opposite opinions to encourge them to prove their point of view #eltchat |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:15 PM |
#eltchat what about role playing? I use role playing with my younger students to practice speaking |
| hartle |
9:15 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @Marisa_C Agreed, critical thinking... #ELTchat But you need imagination and creativity to be able to question things |
| Shaunwilden |
9:16 PM |
@theteacherjames no it's our responsibility to help them learn to ask ?s themselves :-) #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:16 PM |
@hartle @Marisa_C Sure, they are not mutually exclusive, but are different skills. #ELTchat |
| hartle |
9:16 PM |
RT @e_d_driscoll: #eltchat how is it diff from any other free speaking practice? Why waste of time?? |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:16 PM |
RT @MrChrisJWilson: #eltchat I think interest in topic makes a difference. If you don't care then why bother to think critically? |
| web20education |
9:16 PM |
#Coursekit reshaping education for the internet age #edtech20 #elearning #edchat #eltchat #icelf11 #oeb11 #appsworld http://t.co/n7VcHQD1 |
| hartle |
9:16 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @hartle: #eltchat treat stds like other adults. Listen... > works for kids too :) >maybe even more so |
| e_d_driscoll |
9:16 PM |
#eltchat certainly some Ss feel this sort of thing is a waste of time- how is it diff from any other free speaking practice? |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:16 PM |
RT @hartle: RT @theteacherjames: @Marisa_C Agreed, critical thinking... #ELTchat But you need imagination and creativity to be able to question things |
| shaznosel |
9:16 PM |
@EnglishOutThere I try but they just dry up..so then I m tempted to start the spoonfeeding...ahgg! #ELTChat |
| theteacherjames |
9:16 PM |
@EnglishOutThere @cerirhiannon @shaznosel @Shaunwilden Eventually, but at the beginning it's our responsibility to kick things off #ELTchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
9:16 PM |
#eltchat I think interest in topic makes a difference. If you don't care then why bother to think critically? |
| cerirhiannon |
9:16 PM |
categorising, evaluating, rank ordering an all be CT activities that kick off speaking #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:17 PM |
RT @MrChrisJWilson: #eltchat I wonder if focusing on language can cause students to forget about thinking critically? Other things on their mind. |
| MrChrisJWilson |
9:17 PM |
#eltchat I wonder if focusing on language can cause students to forget about thinking critically? Other things on their mind. |
| EnglishOutThere |
9:17 PM |
@shaznosel They need to feel they czn do it before they speak, so prep is crucial #ELTChat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:17 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @theteacherjames no it's our responsibility to help them learn to ask ?s themselves :-) #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:17 PM |
@hartle am fine with this - as long as we know which is which - if working towards a typology of CT activities need for specificity #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:18 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @MrChrisJWilson A very good point - need to get ss to focus on ideas, controversial topics - or problem situs which need resolution #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:18 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: might be helpful to share some specific activities and evaluate them for CT ? #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:18 PM |
@EnglishOutThere #ELTChat true..maybe let them research at home a topic and then bring ideas to class?? |
| MrChrisJWilson |
9:18 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @MrChrisJWilson A very good point - need to get ss to focus on ideas, controversial topics - or problem situs which need resolution #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:18 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @hartle am fine with this ...- if working towards a typology of CT activities need for specificity #ELTchat Agreed |
| cerirhiannon |
9:18 PM |
might be helpful to share some specific activities and evaluate them for CT ? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:18 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson A very good point - need to get ss to focus on ideas, controversial topics - or problem situs which need resolution #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:18 PM |
@theteacherjames #ELTchat How much kicking do we do? Im trying to find ways to encourage them to think for themselves..prediction/improvise |
| shaznosel |
9:19 PM |
@theteacherjames #ELTchat think you're right about the high expectations.. |
| EnglishOutThere |
9:19 PM |
If they can hear their own improvement RT @hartle: RT @e_d_driscoll: #eltchat how is it diff from any other fr… (cont) http://t.co/84baRFPW |
| Marisa_C |
9:19 PM |
@PrettyButWise how does roleplay promote CT? #eltchat |
| SophiaCon1 |
9:19 PM |
RT @MrChrisJWilson: #eltchat I think interest in topic makes a difference. If you don't care then why bother to think critically? |
| hartle |
9:19 PM |
#eltchat another tactic is to shock them out of normality and into communication |
| PrettyButWise |
9:19 PM |
@ElindaGjondedaj I Like role playing as a learner as well as a teacher #eltchat but I think it's for beginners don't u agree ? |
| theteacherjames |
9:19 PM |
@Shaunwilden That's what I'm trying to say :) We have to establish an expectation of CT from the start, followed by Ss. #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:19 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: might be helpful to share some specific activities and evaluate them for CT ? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:19 PM |
@cerirhiannon sounds like a plan to me :-D #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:20 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: I think - pls correct me if I am wrong - that all talking abt ANY type of speaking activity -T activs specific subject matter #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:20 PM |
@hartle What by going up to them and shouting 'boo' :-) #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:20 PM |
Or rather what types of rolepla promote CT? #ELTchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:20 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: might be helpful to share some specific activities and evaluate them for CT ? #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:20 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: might be helpful to share some specific activities and evaluate them for CT ? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:21 PM |
@Shaunwilden Exactly what I was thinking - Simulations and Case studies #ELTchat |
| shaznosel |
9:21 PM |
@hartle #ELTchat so many babies and we as teachers are so maternal..natural relationship, no? |
| sandymillin |
9:21 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: e.g. ask high school ss to think (but really think) about the relevance of their education system as prep for real world .... #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:21 PM |
e.g. ask high school ss to think (but really think) about the relevance of their education system as prep for real world .... #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:21 PM |
@Marisa_C ones that involve solving? A lot of BE scenarios tend to encourage that #ELTchat |
| agarridodiez |
9:21 PM |
Effective questioning should lead to successful critical thinking #ELTchat |
| hartle |
9:21 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @hartle What by going up to them and shouting 'boo' :-) #ELTchat CD work! |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:21 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson I agree ss focus only on the linguistic way to say sth without thinking critically what they are talking about #ELTchat |
| hartle |
9:22 PM |
RT @e_d_driscoll: #eltchat aren't we perhaps overstepping ...Why change? It's getting thm to use language naturally to think & communicate |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:22 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @e_d_driscoll Another good question - should ELT Ts act as educators or just as language dispensers? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:22 PM |
@e_d_driscoll Another good question - should ELT Ts act as educators or just as language dispensers? #eltchat |
| EnglishOutThere |
9:22 PM |
I agree RT @agarridodiez: Effective questioning should lead to successful critical thinking #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:22 PM |
@shaznosel Treating our Ss as intelligent human beings shouldn't be tough, should it?! ;-) #ELTchat |
| sandymillin |
9:22 PM |
@cerirhiannon great example Ceri. So this perhaps requires collection of data from other countries, analysis of diff views #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:22 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat I asked how many people had year of birth on Facebook bfr discussing identity theft, for example. A lot commented on this |
| hartle |
9:22 PM |
#eltchat I asked how many people had year of birth on Facebook bfr discussing identity theft, for example. A lot commented on this |
| e_d_driscoll |
9:22 PM |
#eltchat aren't we perhaps overstepping our role if we assume we can or should try to change the way people think? |
| cerirhiannon |
9:22 PM |
RT @agarridodiez: Effective questioning should lead to successful critical thinking #ELTchat |
| SophiaCon1 |
9:22 PM |
RT @agarridodiez: Effective questioning should lead to successful critical thinking #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:23 PM |
@cerirhiannon OH I think we ARE changing the way they think - in every way you can imagine - even when we lecture we do that #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:23 PM |
@e_d_driscoll I don't think we have to change the way people think all the time, bt gd to make SS aware other ways of thinking exst #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:23 PM |
@e_d_driscoll it is an good point but isnt our job more that just giving the language #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:23 PM |
@e_d_driscoll I don't think we're asking them to change the way they think, just to access and discuss it in class #eltchat |
| e_d_driscoll |
9:24 PM |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat I think.my students pay for.the language skills they learn with.me |
| Shaunwilden |
9:24 PM |
@shaznosel @PrettyButWise 'getting out hand' can be a good thing though cant it? #ELTchat |
| MrChrisJWilson |
9:24 PM |
#eltchat can't remember who said this "it's impossible to teach the language and not some of the culture" changing thinking happens anyway |
| hartle |
9:24 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @e_d_driscoll Another ... #eltchat What a language dispenser, like a soap dispenser? They get clogged up & don't use it |
| EnglishOutThere |
9:24 PM |
Ask guides? RT @Marisa_C: @e_d_driscoll Another good question - should ELT Ts act as educators or just as language dispensers? #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:24 PM |
@PrettyButWise #eltchat it works for older SS but they just think it's silly! Rps with my teen classes just get out of hand..! |
| agarridodiez |
9:24 PM |
Students should be given plenty of time to develop critical thinking #ELTchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:24 PM |
@Marisa_C Ss will be familiar with the language as beginners #eltchat |
| EnglishOutThere |
9:25 PM |
In my experience it is a more psychological than linguistic. A process that promotes/supports CT #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:25 PM |
RT @MrChrisJWilson: #eltchat can't remember who said this "it's impossible to teach the language and not some of the culture" changing thinking happens anyway |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:25 PM |
RT @hartle: RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon OH I think we ARE changing the way they think #eltchat and maybe they change the way we think?? |
| Marisa_C |
9:25 PM |
@hartle te he he - was a metaphor - u in a naughtymood tonihgt - will get ur 500 lines in the end - make u write the summary :-) #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:25 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon OH I think we ARE changing the way they think #eltchat and maybe they change the way we think?? |
| hartle |
9:26 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @hartle and may be we all chanhe each other - just as we are at this very moment #eltchat :-) |
| agarridodiez |
9:26 PM |
Strategies such as talk to partners allow students to have opportunities to develop such critical thinking, even at survival levels #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:26 PM |
@e_d_driscoll Fair enough, I think mine want more than from me, well anyway they have never complained otherwise #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:26 PM |
@e_d_driscoll If we aren't stimulating our Ss critically in our classrooms, how do we expect them to be engaged proactive learners? #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:26 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @e_d_driscoll it is an good point but isnt our job more that just giving the language #ELTchat > with adults especially? |
| PrettyButWise |
9:26 PM |
@shaznosel I agree we think it's silly ! ;p #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:26 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @hartle te he he - was a metaphor - u in a naughtymood tonihgt #eltchat Sorry, yes am in a rebellious mood 2night |
| jobethsteel |
9:26 PM |
RT @Marisa_C @e_d_driscoll Another good question - should ELT Ts act as educators or just as language dispensers? #eltchat Both! |
| cerirhiannon |
9:26 PM |
@Marisa_C OK; )very true, every convo we have changes the way we think ... was thinking about not political/cultural values #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:26 PM |
@hartle and may be we all chanhe each other - just as we are at this very moment #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:27 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @e_d_driscoll If we aren't stimulating our Ss critically in our classrooms, how do we expect them to be engaged proactive learners? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:27 PM |
@agarridodiez I think you mentioned the role of Questions - we need to ask Qs that make Ss think not just find facts or language #ELTchat |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:27 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: @hartle and may be we all chanhe each other - just as we are at this very moment #eltchat > :) |
| theteacherjames |
9:27 PM |
@shaznosel I can imagine, but challenge is good, right? ;-) I think they'll thank you in the long run. #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:27 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @hartle and may be we all chanhe each other - just as we are at this very moment #eltchat > :) |
| agarridodiez |
9:27 PM |
“@EnglishOutThere: I agree RT @agarridodiez: Effective questioning should lead to successful critical thinking #ELTchat†Thanks. |
| sandymillin |
9:27 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: starts to get them to analyse their world and the subjects they study ... (lesson plan)http://t.co/oNWYTwUa #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:27 PM |
@theteacherjames #ELTchat tough with teen classes as i respect their intelligence but i think they're not use to it and find it weird! |
| shaznosel |
9:28 PM |
@PrettyButWise #eltchat i like silly and getting out of hand but these kids have to go thru a proficiency exam at 16..poor babes! |
| hartle |
9:28 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @e_d_driscoll If we aren't stimulating our Ss critically in our classrooms, how do we expect them to be engaged proactive learners? #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:28 PM |
@Shaunwilden @shaznosel I totally agree with u it can be creative also #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:28 PM |
#eltchat if language being used not meaningful little motivation for improvement |
| MrChrisJWilson |
9:28 PM |
@shaznosel @theteacherjames very true, plus teenages are scared of admitting what they think about things. #eltchat |
| e_d_driscoll |
9:28 PM |
@cerirhiannon #eltchat but I would say that's part of any human interaction- don't see necessarily any specific significance to l2 learning |
| eflresource |
9:29 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: we need to ask Qs that make Ss think not just find facts or language #ELTchat Agree; + thinking more stimulating & memorable |
| shaznosel |
9:29 PM |
@MrChrisJWilson yeah..class peer pressure counts for alot.. #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:29 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @agarridodiez I think you mentioned the role of Questions - we need to ask Qs that make Ss think not just find facts or language #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:29 PM |
@shaznosel @PrettyButWise And that means they cant be silly? #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:29 PM |
RT @shaznosel: @theteacherjames #ELTchat teens - i respect their intelligence- they're not use to it &find it weird! > :)so imp v teens ! |
| Marisa_C |
9:29 PM |
Can't remember who mentioned the role of crticial reading leading to CT in follow up discussions #ELTchat |
| agarridodiez |
9:29 PM |
A question is a good question if it's worth answering it. #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:30 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Can't remember who mentioned the role of crticial reading leading to CT in follow up discussions #ELTchat > sharon |
| cerirhiannon |
9:30 PM |
RT @agarridodiez: A question is a good question if it's worth answering it. #ELTchat |
| hartle |
9:30 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @agarridodiez I think you mentioned the role of Questions - we need to ask Qs that make Ss think not just find facts or language #ELTchat |
| e_d_driscoll |
9:30 PM |
@cerirhiannon #eltchat nice idea and probably improves our experience of the job, but is there any real evidence that Ss learn faster? |
| cerirhiannon |
9:30 PM |
@e_d_driscoll I guess that we want the interaction in an L2 class to mirror "any human interaction" , no? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:30 PM |
@agarridodiez Good aphorism but not relevant to all types of language practice - important in CT development tho #ELTchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:31 PM |
sorry can't continue it's 12:29 am and I'm sleepy GN #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:31 PM |
@theteacherjames #ELTchat I keep in mind the 'long run' - they may think im mad now but I hope they reaslise why in the end! |
| Shaunwilden |
9:31 PM |
RT @NikkiFortova: our Ss are intelligent, thinking human beings - challenge them with tasks that require higher level thinking #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:31 PM |
RT @NikkiFortova: our Ss are intelligent, thinking human beings- challenge them with tasks that require higher level thinking #eltchat >gd1 |
| Shaunwilden |
9:31 PM |
RT @jobethsteel: #ELTchat dont we need to prepare sts to be able to cope with ideas they dont agree with ie vatied contexts? |
| cerirhiannon |
9:31 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: I find it hard to think of CT activities because I try to build it into everything I do. Every text, video etc has to lead to disc. #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:31 PM |
I find it hard to think of CT activities because I try to build it into everything I do. Every text, video etc has to lead to disc. #ELTchat |
| NikkiFortova |
9:31 PM |
our Ss are intelligent, thinking human beings - challenge them with tasks that require higher level thinking #eltchat |
| jobethsteel |
9:31 PM |
Eltchat# dont we need to prepare sts to be able to cope with ideas they dont agree with ie vatied contexts? |
| EnglishOutThere |
9:31 PM |
The Qs need to be personal and using lang at i+1 (Krashen) and as part of social exp. they become mem esp. when listened to again #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:31 PM |
@cerirhiannon thx :-) #ELTchat |
| sandymillin |
9:32 PM |
@e_d_driscoll depends on what they want to learn. back to parrot fashion - repeating lang = not natural; thinking what to say is #eltchat |
| EnglishOutThere |
9:32 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: @e_d_driscoll there is some evidence that engagement motivates and motivation and self-esteem are the bedrock of learning #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:32 PM |
@e_d_driscoll there is some evidence that engagement motivates and motivation and self-esteem are the bedrock of learning #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:32 PM |
@shaznosel I'm sure they will! #ELTchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:33 PM |
@shaznosel hehehe trust me exams will force them to take it seriously ;P #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:33 PM |
@sandymillin though of course repeating language i.e. drills builds confidence #ELTchat |
| hartle |
9:33 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Can't remember who mentioned the role of crticial reading ...#ELTchat I did, I think |
| theteacherjames |
9:33 PM |
RT @NikkiFortova: our Ss are intelligent, thinking human beings - challenge them with tasks that require higher level thinking #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:33 PM |
@agarridodiez #ELTchat good point - must consider the questions Im asking..maybe that's the key?! |
| hartle |
9:34 PM |
#eltchat activity doing with advanced learners in preparation for discussion. They're very into it http://t.co/B58mwR5x |
| shaznosel |
9:34 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @e_d_driscoll If we aren't stimulating our Ss critically in our classrooms, how do we expect them to be engaged proactive learners? #eltchat |
| eflresource |
9:34 PM |
Also find teens often respond well 2 counter-intuitive thought experiments - good discussions!...#eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:34 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @sandymillin repeating language builds confidence #ELTchat > formulaic exponents of functional lang are often automatised |
| Marisa_C |
9:34 PM |
@hartle Good texts are a great starting point - even simulations and case studies make use of them as informational input #ELTchat |
| SophiaCon1 |
9:34 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: @e_d_driscoll there is some evidence that engagement motivates and motivation and self-esteem are the bedrock of learning #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:35 PM |
@PrettyButWise sad but true! Wouldn't it be great to teach to chat and not to pass an exam - who cares what I think of that idea?? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:35 PM |
Are we losing sight of the topic a bit? 'how to improve speaking skills using critical thinking..so apart from RP and ?s what else? #eltchat |
| e_d_driscoll |
9:35 PM |
@cerirhiannon #eltchat agree, but don't see that trying to make Ss think in a way that I consider reflective is always productive |
| SophiaCon1 |
9:35 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @hartle Good texts are a great starting point - even simulations and case studies make use of them as informational input #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:35 PM |
RT @hartle: #eltchat activity doing with advanced learners in preparation for discussion. They're very into it http://t.co/MTGAKUYP |
| annabooklover |
9:35 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @e_d_driscoll If we aren't stimulating our Ss critically in our classrooms, how do we expect them to be engaged proactive learners? #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:36 PM |
@hartle nice :) clips work so well for CT - infographics a great source too e.g. info is beautiful http://t.co/8gkevX8p #eltchat |
| NikkiFortova |
9:36 PM |
@Shaunwilden what do we mean by speaking skills? #eltchat |
| eflresource |
9:36 PM |
@Shaunwilden Thought experiments! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:36 PM |
WHat do you all say we move to some ideas for activities that involve speaking - which was in the original question #ELTchat |
| hartle |
9:37 PM |
RT @jobethsteel: RT @theteacherjames I find it hard to think of CT activities because I try to build it into everything I do. Every text. . #ELTchat Me too! |
| hartle |
9:37 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: 'how to ...#eltchat Spekaing skills improve as natural by product of engaged discussion, + LA and feedback |
| theteacherjames |
9:37 PM |
Improve speaking skills through engaging the Ss with subject they care about. Not an activity but necessary. #ELTchat |
| jobethsteel |
9:37 PM |
RT @theteacherjames I find it hard to think of CT activities because I try to build it into everything I do. Every text. . #ELTchat Me too! |
| Shaunwilden |
9:37 PM |
@NikkiFortova I think it was meant as speaking activities in general #eltchat |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:38 PM |
Once I asked them to make their jokes in english, then they were divided into groups and they were telling the jokes to each other #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:38 PM |
@e_d_driscoll get yr point - but reflection also has a role to play -if we can access the thoughts & bring them into the open #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:38 PM |
RT @hartle: RT @Shaunwilden: 'how to ..#eltchat Speaking skills improve as natural byproduct of engaged discussion, + LA & feedback> lovely |
| eflresource |
9:38 PM |
@e_d_driscoll Agree it's sinister if you're trying to twist them into supporting u'r point of view, but CT shldnt be about that tho?#eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:38 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @sandymillin though of course repeating language i.e. drills builds confidence #ELTchat <true |
| shaznosel |
9:38 PM |
@Marisa_C #ELTchat good point..ideas..alibi games, problem solving, improvise from pics, build on each others ideas |
| SophiaCon1 |
9:38 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: @hartle nice :) clips work so well for CT - infographics a great source too e.g. info is beautiful http://t.co/8gkevX8p #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:39 PM |
@ElindaGjondedaj #ELTchat cute idea and could lead to cultural differnces chat and so on.. |
| EnglishOutThere |
9:39 PM |
Small regular speaking successes. This is a Chinese Ss who used some activities of mine with FB and Skype http://t.co/NxuKOEmt #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
9:39 PM |
@sandymillin @Shaunwilden do drills always build confidence? #eltchat |
| eflresource |
9:39 PM |
Ethical dilemmas can be a good way in, too - esp. removed from religious points of view and esp. if they have comic overtones...#eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:39 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: Improve speaking skills through engaging the Ss with subject they care about. Not an activity but necessary. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:39 PM |
Decision making activities which involve evaluation - e,g. candidates for a specific job brief Ss must choose #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:39 PM |
If u really want your Ss to engage with the txts you put in front of them, always give them an opportunity 2 discuss it w/ other ss #ELTchat |
| sandymillin |
9:39 PM |
@Shaunwilden we seem to have reversed the topic to 'how to promote critical thinking in speaking activities'! #eltchat |
| SophiaCon1 |
9:40 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @eflresource: #eltchat Ethical dilemmas can be a good way in, too - esp. if they're removed from religiou… (cont) http://t.co/laIzP7cm |
| shaznosel |
9:40 PM |
critical thinking with lots of speculation..show a pic which is unusual and speculate why/how /what etc #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
9:40 PM |
There used to be an excellent section in Management Magazine callse Dilemma & Decision - i have tons of great lessons from those #ELtchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:40 PM |
@NikkiFortova And what do you mean by collaborative learning here? working together? #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:40 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @eflresource: Ethical dilemmas can be a good way in, too -..#eltchat > Excellent idea> Yes!! |
| Marisa_C |
9:40 PM |
RT @eflresource: Ethical dilemmas can be a good way in, too -..#eltchat > Excellent idea |
| sandymillin |
9:40 PM |
@harrisonmike @Shaunwilden depends on the student and how the teacher approaches them. can demotivate too #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:40 PM |
RT @eflresource: #eltchat Ethical dilemmas can be a good way in, too - esp. if they're removed from religiou… (cont) http://t.co/laIzP7cm |
| hartle |
9:40 PM |
#eltchat speaking skills part of integrated skills work, |
| NikkiFortova |
9:40 PM |
Collaborative learning in the classroom should give learners the opportunity to speak #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:41 PM |
@annabooklover Great game - an ELT version of it in T's Guide In HEadway Advanced OUP #eltchat |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:41 PM |
RT @hartle: RT @shaznosel: ..show a pic which is unusual and speculate why/how /what etc #ELTChat Ads gd for this too |
| NikkiFortova |
9:41 PM |
@Shaunwilden yes, Ss working together on tasks, with the teacher taking more of a back seat whilst the Ss negotiate the challenge #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:41 PM |
@harrisonmike @sandymillin Well 'always' is sth that is possibly not possible but I'd say done right they do help #eltchat |
| eflresource |
9:41 PM |
@hartle He he, thanks :-) I've used a silly, short version of the runaway train one before - always provokes good discussion & lang#eltchat |
| hartle |
9:41 PM |
RT @shaznosel: ..show a pic which is unusual and speculate why/how /what etc #ELTChat Ads gd for this too |
| annabooklover |
9:41 PM |
I have a game which wasn't meant for ELT use, called SCRUPLES. Canadian people may know it. Great fun for older students #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:42 PM |
RT @sandymillin: @shaznosel and you can't get much better than #eltpics 'Every picture tells a story' for unusual pics :) http://t.co/buya51Ue #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:42 PM |
RT @sandymillin: @shaznosel and you can't get much better than #eltpics 'Every picture tells a story' for unusual pics :) http://t.co/buya51Ue #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:42 PM |
@shaznosel and you can't get much better than #eltpics 'Every picture tells a story' for unusual pics :) http://t.co/buya51Ue #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:42 PM |
@NikkiFortova So what kind of things would you do to foster that? #eltchat |
| eflresource |
9:42 PM |
RT @hartle: RT @shaznosel: ..show a pic which is unusual and speculate why/how /what etc #ELTChat Ads gd for this too Yes to both of these! |
| shaznosel |
9:42 PM |
@annabooklover #eltchat omg..i remember that game - good one - lots of explanation and elaboration! |
| cerirhiannon |
9:42 PM |
RT @annabooklover: I have a game which wasn't meant for ELT use, called SCRUPLES.#eltchat >I remember that, my Italian students loved it :) |
| hartle |
9:42 PM |
RT @annabooklover: I have a game which wasn't meant for ELT use, called SCRUPLES. #eltchat How ds it work? |
| annabooklover |
9:43 PM |
@shaznosel #eltchat Exactly! And a lot of discussion on cultural differences too! |
| Shaunwilden |
9:43 PM |
@Wiktor_K Oh yes how could i forget about lateral thinking! #eltchat |
| eflresource |
9:43 PM |
RT @Wiktor_K: lateral thinking? Some good puzzles here: http://t.co/EAmQU51k #eltchat |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:43 PM |
RT @sandymillin: @shaznosel and you can't get much better than #eltpics 'Every picture tells a story' for unusual pics :) http://t.co/buya51Ue #eltchat |
| eflresource |
9:43 PM |
A lot of these r gr8: http://t.co/Xjfa40Os Put sts in groups & they have to agree on their answers. #eltchat |
| Wiktor_K |
9:43 PM |
Hi guys - massively late today - has anybody mentioned lateral thinking? Some good puzzles here: http://t.co/XJXiftjs #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:44 PM |
@eflresource picture imagine activity #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:44 PM |
read texts about students' culture written by outsiders - ss as experts criticise and correct the misrepresentations #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:44 PM |
Use fiction/movies/tv as a way of promoting the disc. of opinions. Lots of useful lang can come from this eg disagreeing politely. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:44 PM |
@Wiktor_ creative thinking has been mentioned yes #ELTchat |
| eflresource |
9:44 PM |
@Marisa_C ? Which one? :-) #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:44 PM |
@shaznosel we live to serve ;) #eltpics #eltchat |
| annabooklover |
9:44 PM |
RT @sandymillin: @shaznosel and you can't get much better than #eltpics 'Every picture tells a story' for unusual pics :) http://t.co/buya51Ue #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:44 PM |
RT @Wiktor_K: Hi guys - massively late today - has anybody mentioned lateral thinking? : http://t.co/hRrAxskA #eltchat Nice ones |
| Marisa_C |
9:44 PM |
@eflresource this sounds more like creative thinking & pics in general but hey who cares now - sharing activities #ELTChat |
| shaznosel |
9:44 PM |
@sandymillin wow - this is what I've been looking for - thanks! #eltpics #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:45 PM |
RT @Wiktor_K: Hi guys - massively late today - has anybody mentioned lateral thinking? Some good puzzles here: http://t.co/XJXiftjs #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:45 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @cerirhiannon: read texts about students' culture written by outsiders - ss as experts criticise7correct the misrepresentations #eltchat |
| eflresource |
9:45 PM |
@Marisa_C Ah yes, thx! Games from the Philosopher's Magazine r really interesting tho! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:45 PM |
lots of ideas coming now :-) Keep it up :-) #eltchat |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:45 PM |
using breaking news #ELTCHAT |
| Marisa_C |
9:45 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: read texts about students' culture written by outsiders - ss as experts criticise7correct the misrepresentations #eltchat |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:46 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Read news items and rewrtite them from own country's local viewpoint (embedding cultural awareness too) or other way round #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:46 PM |
Read news items and rewrtite them from own country's local viewpoint (embedding cultural awareness too) or other way round #ELTchat |
| EnglishOutThere |
9:46 PM |
Scroll down for download of sample lesson plans/worksheets that scaffold speaking tasks. V effective. http://t.co/fwb0Srl0 #eltchat |
| e_d_driscoll |
9:46 PM |
RT @eflresource: @Marisa_C Ah yes, thx! Games from the Philosopher's Magazine r really interesting tho! #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:46 PM |
#eltchat legal dilemmas good too |
| shaznosel |
9:46 PM |
From Marissa's blog - I once saw you sticking apples on a tree at midnight..why?? love it! #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:46 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: read texts about students' culture written by outsiders - ss as experts criticise and correct the misrepresentations #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:46 PM |
draw parallels between situations in other countries/context - compare w their reality/context - quote evidence #eltchat |
| eflresource |
9:47 PM |
RT @ElindaGjondedaj: using breaking news #ELTCHAT Yes, and also science/tech developments - life elsewhere; aliens view of us; etc |
| cerirhiannon |
9:47 PM |
use stereoypical statements about ss's cultures (small c e.g. teen culture/skater/surf culture) and ask ss to debate against them #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:47 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Read news items and rewrtite them from own country's local viewpoint#ELTchat Very effective :-) |
| shaznosel |
9:47 PM |
@sandymillin Why else do we exist..thanks for serving! #eltpics #eltchat |
| eflresource |
9:47 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: ss as experts criticise and correct misrepresentations #eltchat maybe lead into discussion: what wld be ideal society?etc |
| OlenaLysytsa |
9:48 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Read news items and rewrtite them from own country's local viewpoint (embedding cultural awareness too) or other way round #ELTchat |
| pacogascon |
9:48 PM |
#eltchat tchat Hi, late lurking today. Using pics is a great way to elicit speech. #eltpics brilliant resource |
| Marisa_C |
9:48 PM |
@theteacherjames And then try to synthesize a more objective view? #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:48 PM |
RT @NikkiFortova: @Shaunwilden information gap activities, debates, dictogloss , for example, can be good collaborative tasks #eltchat |
| NikkiFortova |
9:48 PM |
@Shaunwilden information gap activities, debates, dictogloss , for example, can be good collaborative tasks #eltchat |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:48 PM |
RT @eflresource: RT @ElindaGjondedaj: using breaking news #ELTCHAT Yes, and also science/tech developments - life elsewhere; aliens view of us; etc |
| cerirhiannon |
9:48 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Read news items and rewrtite them from own country's local viewpoint (embedding cultural awareness too) or other way round #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:48 PM |
Compare two opinion pieces from newspapers of opposite views Which is right? #ELTchat |
| eflresource |
9:48 PM |
@hartle That sounds great! #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:48 PM |
Hi #eltchat peeps, just dropping in...get sts to rewrite text from different perspective |
| Marisa_C |
9:48 PM |
Engage with literary text - always a great springboard for critical discussions #ELTchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:49 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @Marisa_C Could do! I love activities with no right answer. #ELTchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:49 PM |
@Marisa_C Could do! I love activities with no right answer. #ELTchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:49 PM |
#eltchat dictation sentences, but sts need to change the content to be true for themselves, then compare, include controversial opinion? |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:49 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: Compare two opinion pieces from newspapers of opposite views Which is right? #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:49 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Engage with literary text - always a great springboard for critical discussions #ELTchat > yes! literature with big&small l :) |
| SophiaCon1 |
9:49 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: Compare two opinion pieces from newspapers of opposite views Which is right? #ELTchat |
| eflresource |
9:49 PM |
@theteacherjames Or: find what u agree r the right bits in these extreme opinions, too. #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:50 PM |
#eltchat doing opposites activity. Dictate something like "Poverty leads to crime" & ask for opposite. Discuss in grps |
| shaznosel |
9:50 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: RT @theteacherjames: @Marisa_C Could do! I love activities with no right answer. #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:50 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat dictation sentences, but sts need to change the content to be true for themselves, then compare, include controversial opinion? |
| Shaunwilden |
9:50 PM |
@theteacherjames @Marisa_C And it confuses the hell out of poor students expecting a right one :-) #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:51 PM |
ask ss to debate subjects from the opposite position to their own #eltchat ( e.g. boys argue that girls are stronger) #eltchat |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:51 PM |
“@theteacherjames: @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C And if that doesn't lead to some critical thinking, what will? :-) #eltchatâ€agree! |
| harrisonmike |
9:51 PM |
@Shaunwilden @theteacherjames @Marisa_C 'Is it true, teacher?', as the student points at their work... #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
9:51 PM |
#eltchat Applying jigsaw principle in diff ways is also suitable for speaking activities |
| Shaunwilden |
9:51 PM |
@theteacherjames Quite :-) #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:51 PM |
#eltchat Watch documentary, then Imagine you're making documentary about this topic, what view will you represent, why etc? |
| Marisa_C |
9:51 PM |
Reading different newsparer articles on same topic and evaluating the information #ELTchat |
| eflresource |
9:51 PM |
These stories cld be useful 2: http://t.co/mlEU1R2u http://t.co/QrRpwxkP #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:51 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C And if that doesn't lead to some critical thinking, what will? :-) #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:52 PM |
RT @NikkiFortova our Ss are intelligent, thinking human beings - challenge them with tasks that require higher level thinking #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:52 PM |
@theteacherjames @harrisonmike @Marisa_C I'll tell you - if tell me whats the correct thing to say :-) #eltchat |
| eflresource |
9:52 PM |
W/ YLs, re-enacting (not 2 traumatic!) bad events from their day from diff points of view can be interesting, memorable & useful, 2 #eltchat |
| EnglishOutThere |
9:52 PM |
RT @Wiktor_K: #eltchat this'll sound weird-but actually a neglected tool 4 critical chat is"a silly question"from teachers. My staff should use it more... |
| shaznosel |
9:52 PM |
When there's no right answer, they look at me and say why did we do it then?? Hello? Did we have fun/think/diverge/speculate... #ELTchat |
| Wiktor_K |
9:52 PM |
#eltchat this'll sound weird-but actually a neglected tool 4 critical chat is"a silly question"from teachers. My staff should use it more... |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:52 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: ask ss to debate subjects from the opposite position to their own #eltchat ( e.g. boys argue that girls are stronger) #eltchat |
| MarianSteiner |
9:52 PM |
RT @NikkiFortova our Ss are intelligent, thinking human beings - challenge them with tasks that require higher level thinking #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:52 PM |
@cerirhiannon great idea - taking the opposite side leads to multiple perspectives #eltchat #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:52 PM |
@harrisonmike @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C "You tell me!" #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:52 PM |
RT @eflresource: These stories cld be useful 2: http://t.co/K5yTk36y http://t.co/nYAIcD7G #eltchat look gr8t :-) |
| Flocabulary |
9:53 PM |
Extended Metaphor brought to you by... Will Ferrell! http://t.co/ZtGp4BD5 #engchat #edchat #sschat #eltchat #ntchat #hiphoped |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:53 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: RT @NikkiFortova our Ss are intelligent, thinking human beings - challenge them with tasks that require higher level thinking #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:53 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: ask ss to debate subjects from the opposite position to their own #eltchat >> That's the kind of roleplay I like! |
| Shaunwilden |
9:53 PM |
I think i have mentioned them before but thunks make for gd speaking activities http://t.co/BA5pilr0 #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:53 PM |
RT @shaznosel: When there's no right answer, they look at me and say why did we do it then?? #ELTchat That's part of learning too |
| eflresource |
9:54 PM |
@shaznosel Yeah, maybe there IS a right answer, & us adults r just 2 dumb to have figured it out. Maybe they can discover it...! #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:54 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: I think i have mentioned them before but thunks make for gd speaking activities http://t.co/OLiQYfXL #eltchat >Nice ;) |
| shaznosel |
9:54 PM |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat what are thunks - sorry to ask!! |
| agarridodiez |
9:54 PM |
#eltchat critical thinking improves speaking skills because students wish to give & share their own views about a topic. |
| hartle |
9:54 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: I think i have mentioned them before but thunks make for gd speaking activities http://t.co/DRmNipTo #eltchat Love those! |
| eflresource |
9:55 PM |
@shaznosel Heh heh, let us know how it goes! :-) #eltchat |
| hartle |
9:55 PM |
#eltchat sorry everyone gotta go. Great talk tonight Loads of ideas :-) See U next week |
| shaznosel |
9:55 PM |
@Shaunwilden like! #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
9:55 PM |
@eflresource totally agree - iI wait in anticipation to see how they think - learn form the ss i say! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:55 PM |
@shaznosel Click on the link in the last tweet - they are unanswerable questions e.g. what colour is Wednesday #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:55 PM |
@Shaunwilden: thunks make for gd speaking activities http://t.co/PZ7bEu04 #eltchat >nver come across thunks b4- thx! |
| EnglishOutThere |
9:55 PM |
Like L1 RT @eflresource: RT @agarridodiez: #eltchat critical thinking improves speaking skills because student… (cont) http://t.co/nCK4sGDW |
| theteacherjames |
9:55 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: I think i have mentioned them before but thunks make for gd speaking activities http://t.co/BA5pilr0 #eltchat |
| eflresource |
9:55 PM |
RT @agarridodiez: #eltchat critical thinking improves speaking skills because students wish to give & share their own views about a topic. |
| Wiktor_K |
9:56 PM |
Good 4 low levels:"alien interview" -pretend U R an alien, ask ss to explain / define things clearly - annoying & effective as hell #eltchat |
| eflresource |
9:56 PM |
@hartle Thanks for the great advice! #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:56 PM |
RT @agarridodiez: #eltchat critical thinking improves speaking skills because students wish to give & share their own views about a topic |
| Marisa_C |
9:56 PM |
@hartle cheers Sharon thx for joining #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:57 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat To help develop critical thinking+speaking, ask lots and lots of open-ended qns, and get sts to do the same |
| eflresource |
9:57 PM |
@Wiktor_K Also: an alien comes to earth, does (insert bad things) but they're normal in his culture. Shld we punish him? etc#eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:57 PM |
ask ss questions that only they can answer and then (gently) challenge them on their answers to get them to think further #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:57 PM |
#eltchat To help develop critical thinking+speaking, ask lots and lots of open-ended qns, and get sts to do the same |
| shaznosel |
9:57 PM |
night sharon from sharon! #ELTchat |
| hartle |
9:57 PM |
RT @eflresource: @hartle Thanks for the great advice! #eltchat :-) |
| Marisa_C |
9:57 PM |
@Wiktor_K Sounds good to me - but why annoying? #eltchat |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:57 PM |
RT @Wiktor_K: Good 4 low levels:"alien interview" -pretend U R an alien, ask ss to explain / define things clearly - annoying & effective as hell #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:58 PM |
#eltchat Why? Why? How? Are you sure? Do you think it could be ...? etc |
| theteacherjames |
9:58 PM |
Must dust off that critical thinking blog post I never got around to finishing off... #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:58 PM |
@EnglishOutThere Cheers and thx for contributions #eltchat |
| annabooklover |
9:58 PM |
@hartle There are cards with controversial questions and players are asked to answer them. I don't know who wins ;) #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
9:58 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat To help develop critical thinking+speaking, ask lots and lots of open-ended qns, and get sts to do the same |
| NikkiFortova |
9:58 PM |
@Wiktor_K: the alien thing works really well with higher levels too :-) #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:58 PM |
RT @eflresource: @Wiktor_K Also: an alien comes to earth, does (insert bad things) but they're normal in his culture. Shld we punish him? etc#eltchat |
| EnglishOutThere |
9:58 PM |
Gotta shoot, thanks folks! #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:58 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat To help develop critical thinking+speaking, ask lots and lots of open-ended qns, and get sts to do the same |
| harrisonmike |
9:59 PM |
Those are COOOOOOOOL =) RT @Shaunwilden: thunks make for gd speaking activities http://t.co/SnpxVoGC #eltchat #speaking #fb |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
9:59 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat Why? Why? How? Are you sure? Do you think it could be ...? etc |
| shaznosel |
9:59 PM |
@eflresource #eltchat im introducing an alien tomorrow! apart form myself!... |
| cerirhiannon |
9:59 PM |
RT @eflresource: @cerirhiannon Yup, or just ask for clarifications, or get counter-egs from other Ss. Going deeper than first reactions! #eltchat |
| eflresource |
9:59 PM |
@theteacherjames Yes please! #eltchat |
| eflresource |
9:59 PM |
@cerirhiannon Yup, or just ask for clarifications, or get counter-egs from other Ss. Going deeper than first reactions! #eltchat |
| EnglishOutThere |
9:59 PM |
@Marisa_C Thanks! tara #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
10:00 PM |
@eflresource Watch this space... :) #eltchat |
| eflresource |
10:00 PM |
@shaznosel Another alien! At last! I thought I was alone... :-) #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
10:00 PM |
RT @eflresource: @antoniaclare Yes! "But what about...?" is usually a good one, too :-) - Indeed! #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
10:00 PM |
The key to critical thinking is engagement. If we really want engaged learners, then CT has surely got to come into it somewhere. #ELTchat |
| eflresource |
10:00 PM |
@antoniaclare Yes! "But what about...?" is usually a good one, too :-) #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
10:01 PM |
#eltchat assign roles.SS dont no what their role is. Give opinion bout controversial issue.Rest of em puzzled.estrangement leads 2discussion |
| theteacherjames |
10:01 PM |
@antoniaclare Absolutely. That's how important I think CT is. #eltchat |
| ElindaGjondedaj |
10:01 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Well good folks, it's witching hour in Athens and this marke the end of another great #ELTchat |
| mrbarranca |
10:01 PM |
RT @Flocabulary: Extended Metaphor brought to you by... Will Ferrell! http://t.co/ZtGp4BD5 #engchat #edchat #sschat #eltchat #ntchat #hiphoped |
| Shaunwilden |
10:01 PM |
Remember we need a volunteer to summarise all these ideas #eltchat |
| NikkiFortova |
10:01 PM |
RT @eflresource: RT @theteacherjames: If we really want engaged learners, then CT has surely got to come into it somewhere. #ELTchat Wise words |
| antoniaclare |
10:01 PM |
@theteacherjames The key to learning is engagement too ;) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10:01 PM |
Well good folks, it's witching hour in Athens and this marke the end of another great #ELTchat |
| shaznosel |
10:01 PM |
#ELTchat guess tonight , that I've learnt the critical thinking should come from me and not always my ss..my planning and my input! wow! |
| eflresource |
10:01 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: If we really want engaged learners, then CT has surely got to come into it somewhere. #ELTchat Wise words |
| Marisa_C |
10:02 PM |
@hartle has offered to do the summary #ELTchat |
| antoniaclare |
10:02 PM |
@theteacherjames I'm with you ;) #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
10:02 PM |
big thank you to the mods @Marisa_C and @ShaunWilden and all you #eltchat -ters - back to work - I have a summary to write ;) |
| Shaunwilden |
10:02 PM |
@Marisa_C @ElindaGjondedaj yes Marisa so I see :-) #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
10:02 PM |
@eflresource never my friend are you alone in the world of teaching..et phone home! similat to elt - no! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10:02 PM |
@Shaunwilden We have a volunteer for the summary #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10:03 PM |
@cerirhiannon thanks Ceri good one huh? #eltchat |
| agarridodiez |
10:03 PM |
Closed questions vs. Open questions #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10:03 PM |
Thanks all for joining #eltchat tonight see you next week |
| shaznosel |
10:04 PM |
From one planet to another - goodnight from me! Thanks for inspiring me.. #ELTChat |
| eflresource |
10:04 PM |
Thank u @ShaunWilden @Marisa_C #eltchat |
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