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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:00 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: It's time for #ELTchat! Welcome all and let's talk about Reflective Practice! Are you all set? > ready!
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harrisonmike
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11/23/2011
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11:00 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: Tonight's #eltchat is Reflective practice in ELT: The What, Why and How hello all
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:00 PM
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Tonight's #eltchat is Reflective practice in ELT: The What, Why and How hello all
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:00 PM
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It's time for #ELTchat! Welcome all and let's talk about Reflective Practice! Are you all set?
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reasons4
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11/23/2011
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11:01 PM
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@Shaunwilden hello I'm lurking #eltchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:01 PM
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for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat discussing reflective practice in ELT
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chrisjw133
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11/23/2011
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11:01 PM
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Looking forward to this #eltchat I've only really just started to take reflective practices seriously.
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:02 PM
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hi me too RT @cerirhiannon: for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat discussing reflective practice in ELT
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:02 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat - talking abt reflective practice - join us!
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:02 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: Ok, how long before you can really start to reflect? Should you do so straightaway as a new teacher? #eltchat > yes
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:02 PM
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@dalecoulter hi there! how was yr giornata? :) #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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11/23/2011
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11:02 PM
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Ok, how long before you can really start to reflect? Should you do so straightaway as a new teacher? #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:02 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat - talking abt reflective practice - join us!
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:02 PM
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For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat - talking abt reflective practice - join us!
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:02 PM
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@cerirhiannon #eltchat me too
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:03 PM
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@harrisonmike start small, build it up. For a new teacher reflecting on the little things is important. Reflection-light #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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11/23/2011
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11:03 PM
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@cerirhiannon Thanks for answering Q number 2. How long before you really get the hang of it? #eltchat ;o)
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ElindaGjondedaj
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11/23/2011
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11:03 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @harrisonmike: β€@Marisa_C RT @Shaunwilden: 21.00 #eltchat is Reflective practice in ELT: The What, Why and How - see you in 6 minsβ€
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:03 PM
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@e_d_driscoll: #eltchat Not jut leaving the classroom and moving to the next lesson, but thinking about what happened in there.
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:03 PM
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RT @reasons4: hello I'm lurking #eltchat Hey nice to see you hear Gareth, good to have another trainer on board
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:04 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @cerirhiannon Do we not try and instill reflection right from the start #eltchat > yes, we should
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AlexandraGuzik
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11/23/2011
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11:04 PM
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Good evening @cerirhiannon @harrisonmike Definitely - I'm a new one and it does help. #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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11/23/2011
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11:04 PM
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#eltchat RT @chrisjw133: it's a good idea to establish gr8 habits str8 away. However, I felt far 2 overwhelmed at 1st.
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:04 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: Thx for answering Q 2. How long before you really get the hang of it? #eltchat ;o) > ah, how long's a piece of string ;)
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:04 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @cerirhiannon Do we not try and instill reflection right from the start #eltchat --> I sure do!
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:04 PM
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@cerirhiannon Do we not try and instill reflection right from the start #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:04 PM
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So shall we get started? Can we have some definitions of what we mean by reflective practice? And what is non-reflective teaching? #ELTchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:05 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: @harrisonmike start small, build it up. For a new teacher reflecting on the little things is important. Reflection-light #eltchat
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:05 PM
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#ELTchat Good Morning :) for me Reflection = mulling over what worked, what didn't, why & how to improve
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:05 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: #eltchat RT @chrisjw133: I felt far 2 overwhelmed at 1st. > can start small and build
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:05 PM
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@harrisonmike gr8 to bring reflection into ur teaching from an early stage, but isn't there too many other things think/worry abt? #ELTchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:05 PM
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@cerirhiannon #eltchat agree. Other pillars of teaching are instilled from the start
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:05 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: So shall we get started? Can we have some definitions of what we mean by reflective practice? And what is non-reflective teaching? #ELTchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:05 PM
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@harrisonmike Yes, but it can be difficult to know how to start. You need encouragement, mentoring, support #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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11/23/2011
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11:05 PM
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@AlexandraGuzik Hi Alexandra! =) #eltchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:06 PM
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Hello all, BTW! #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:06 PM
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RT @reasons4: @harrisonmike I don't see why not ... new teachers should set themselves realistic goals and learn to reflect on lessons, #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:06 PM
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RT @JoHart: #ELTchat Good Morning :) for me Reflection = mulling over what worked, what didn't, why & how to improve> good start
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:06 PM
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@JoHart #eltchat that's in essence what it is for me too
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:06 PM
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Agree RT @sandymillin: @harrisonmike Yes, but it can be difficult to know how to start. You need encouragement, mentoring, support #eltchat
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chrisjw133
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11/23/2011
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11:06 PM
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@sandymillin @harrisonmike Definitely! plus safety, I remember worrying that I could lose my job if I was too honest to my mentor! #eltchat
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reasons4
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11/23/2011
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11:06 PM
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@harrisonmike I don't see why not ... new teachers should set themselves realistic goals and learn to reflect on lessons, #eltchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:06 PM
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I think @dalecoulter's right - baby steps. #ELTchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:06 PM
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@JoshSRound The rest won't get "thought about" without reflection #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:07 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Are there courses which do not encourage this? My impression was that this is now a modus vivendi on all good courses for Ts #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:07 PM
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Are there courses which do not encourage this? My impression was that this is now a modus vivendi on all good courses for Ts #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:07 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: @sandymillin @harrisonmike & there are many ways to reflect, doesn't have to be a big deal. Could be a conversation. #eltchat
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ElindaGjondedaj
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11/23/2011
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11:07 PM
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#ELTchat hello again! great topic!
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:07 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: Is this our def then ? "mulling over what worked, what didn't, why & how to improve" #ELTchat I'd say so, yes.
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:07 PM
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@AnthonyGaughan Hi Anthony, hope all is well in Germany #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:07 PM
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@sandymillin @harrisonmike & there are many ways to reflect, doesn't have to be a big deal. Could be a conversation. #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:07 PM
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@JoshSRound many things to worry about, but reflection can make it easier: you can take solutions/experiments into next lesson #eltchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:07 PM
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@chrisjw133 #eltchat crickey, that's a welcoming environment to start in!
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:07 PM
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Is this our def then ? "mulling over what worked, what didn't, why & how to improve" #ELTchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:08 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: #eltchat I do that A LOT! #reflection
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:08 PM
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@shaznosel Hi Shaz - I hope some thinking is indeed provoked #ELTChat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:08 PM
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@Shaunwilden Hi Shaun, getting by - you? #ELTchat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:08 PM
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#ELTChat Evening all..guess this is gonna be a deep, thought -provoking sess!
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reasons4
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11/23/2011
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11:08 PM
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@JoshSRound @sandymillin @harrisonmike #ELTchat agreed mentoring is important
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:08 PM
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@Marisa_C Yes me too, though that said trainees are very hit and miss at it #ELTchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:08 PM
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#eltchat had what I thought was a terrible lesson the other day. Turns out it wasn't that bad #reflection
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berrinyildiz
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11/23/2011
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11:08 PM
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RT @yearinthelifeof: I need help! The DoΔuΕ University ELT Conference Roving Reporter needs questions from you: http://t.co/5Yqj7zQU #ELT #ELTchat #ESL
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eannegrenoble
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11/23/2011
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11:08 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: Is this our def then ? "mulling over what worked, what didn't, why & how to improve" #ELTchat Hi :-) I'd go with that
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:08 PM
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Think it's important that the reflection leads somewhere, has an active result. #eltchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:09 PM
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@JoshSRound Ah! So what guidance can basically any environment offer NQTs? (group brainstorm!!!) #ELTchat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:09 PM
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@Marisa_C #ELTChat Absolutely ..that's what's we are here for!
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AlexandraGuzik
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11/23/2011
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11:09 PM
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Practice, because it really must influence the next lesson, not just stay in the diary entry with realization what, why and how. #eltchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:09 PM
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RT @JoHart: #ELTchat Also imho/e can be the thinking on feet/seizing the moment & then,post event realisation of why I did what I did
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:09 PM
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@Marisa_C CELTA certainly encourages a lot of post-lesson reflective discussion. #ELTchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:09 PM
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@Marisa_C think courses include it, but that doesn't mean teachers are given a space for it in their first job. luckily i was. #ELTchat
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:09 PM
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#ELTchat Also imho/e can be the thinking on feet/seizing the moment & then,post event realisation of why I did what I did
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:09 PM
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@AnthonyGaughan hi Anthony! so much learning on the job in elt, isn't there? Hard to find room for reflection without guidance #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:10 PM
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@inglishteacher Reflection is the reason I started my blog, so I definitely agree! #eltchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:10 PM
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RT @inglishteacher: Just an obvious one but aren't blogs and Twitter just the best sites for reflective practice in ELT? #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:10 PM
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@theteacherjames @Marisa_C How many tchrs move from course reflecting into their first jobs though? #ELTchat
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LeaSobocan
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11/23/2011
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11:10 PM
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I find the most stimulating reflection takes place in the staffroom-bouncing ideass of each other #ELTChat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:10 PM
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I guess bottom line is has to be "post event" @JoHart - but the form, the precise when and how can vary to suit ppl, circumstances #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:10 PM
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The question is how do teachers who haven't gone through such training can be helped to find tools for reflection and CPD #ELTchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:10 PM
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: @JoshSRound Ah! So what guidance can basically any environment offer NQTs? (group brainstorm!!!) #ELTchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:10 PM
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Just an obvious one but aren't blogs and Twitter just the best sites for reflective practice in ELT? #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:11 PM
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@inglishteacher yes, but most people seem unaware of their existence #getyourcrusadinghaton #ELTchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:11 PM
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#eltchat @Marisa_C completely agree, in which case, teacher creates their own micro-climate?
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eannegrenoble
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11/23/2011
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11:11 PM
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RT @sandymillin: @Marisa_C t.. doesn't mean teachers are given a space for it in their first job.>refln doesn't need 2 much time #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:11 PM
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: How many of you work at schools where "reflective conversations in the staffroom" are the norm? #ELTchat > me :)
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:11 PM
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@Marisa_C Unfortunately not. #ELTchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:11 PM
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How many of you work at schools where "reflective conversations in the staffroom" are the norm? #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:11 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: @inglishteacher Reflection is the reason I started my blog, so I definitely agree! #eltchat > me too
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:11 PM
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@reasons4 @Marisa_C Yes I was just thinking that and it is a hard skill to learn in 4 weeks with everything else anyway #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:11 PM
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@sandymillin I think many institutions don't have a 'micro-climate' that encourages reflection #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:11 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: @inglishteacher Reflection is the reason I started my blog, so I definitely agree! #eltchat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:11 PM
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@LeaSobocan #ELTChat or together here on ELTCHAT #ELTChat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:11 PM
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RT @jemjemgardner: RT @inglishteacher: Just an obvious one but aren't blogs and Twitter just the best sites for reflective practice in ELT? #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:12 PM
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@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C I think in some teachers it must at least establish a habit of reflection, did with me! #ELTchat
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:12 PM
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RT @shaznosel: @theteacherjames #eltchat I THINK blogging is the answer - sit , think, reflect and share..
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:12 PM
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@cerirhiannon Agreed but does it also need help to have someone to discuss it wirh? #ELTchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:12 PM
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: How many of you work at schools where "reflective conversations in the staffroom" are the norm? #ELTchat me
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:12 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: @cerirhiannon where I first worked - teaching was very much kept OUT of the staffroom #eltchat > common enough sadly
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:12 PM
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@cerirhiannon But can set a good example! #eltchat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:12 PM
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@theteacherjames #eltchat I THINK blogging is the answer - sit , think, reflect and share..
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:12 PM
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can we institutionalize reflective practice, in fact do we want to? #eltchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:12 PM
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I think reflection needs to come from within - be sth u feel u need to do - for it to work - peers can help, but can't do it for u #eltchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:12 PM
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@cerirhiannon where I first worked - teaching was very much kept OUT of the staffroom #eltchat
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:12 PM
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Sorry for being a bit late... will do my best to play "catchy-uppy" :-) #ELTChat
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reasons4
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11/23/2011
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11:12 PM
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RT @AlexandraGuzik: Practice, because it really must influence the next lesson, not just stay in the diary entry with realization what, why and how. #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:12 PM
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RT @LeaSobocan: I find the most stimulating reflection takes place in the staffroom-bouncing ideass of each other #ELTChat
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:12 PM
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@AnthonyGaughan a buddy/mentoring system , how many of us have experienced this ideal? #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:12 PM
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@AnthonyGaughan I used to to a certain extent but that was time when the staffroom was full of delta qulaified tchers #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:12 PM
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@AnthonyGaughan Good question, Anthony - is reflection encourages or is it the norm where you work? #ELTchat
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:12 PM
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#ELTchat think usually pple have to be taught to reflect (I use journal tempates with qs to start stdnts off when 1st using reflection)
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:13 PM
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@Shaunwilden @AnthonyGaughan it happened at my old school too. no deltas there, but very supportive environment, great team #Eltchat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:13 PM
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RT @LeaSobocan: @shaznosel Ah, I see you dudes and dudettes as members of one big staffroom :) #ELTChat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:13 PM
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@JoshSRound I first got this when training as a #CELTA tutor but I was also lucky in my staffroom before that #eltchat
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:13 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: I think reflection needs to come from within - be sth u feel u need to do - for it to work - peers can help, but can't do it for u #eltchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:13 PM
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@Marisa_C that's exactly the situation I found myself in and the decision I came to - autonomous #eltchat
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LeaSobocan
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11/23/2011
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11:13 PM
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@shaznosel Ah, I see you dudes and dudettes as members of one big staffroom :) #ELTChat
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:13 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: I think reflection needs to come from within - be sth u feel u need to do - for it to work - peers can help, but can't do it for u #eltchat
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chrisjw133
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11/23/2011
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11:13 PM
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@inglishteacher I think an episodic overview can be very helpful. We have p.d. meetings every term to discuss our reflections. #eltchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:13 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @cerirhiannon Agreed but does it also need help to have someone to discuss it wirh? #ELTchat > yes, tho not essential
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ShellTerrell
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11/23/2011
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11:13 PM
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Happy Thanksgiving from ATI http://t.co/kppQ1yh4 #esl #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:13 PM
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@theteacherjames Agreed but think a fair few dont really bother #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:13 PM
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RT @jemjemgardner: @cerirhiannon But can set a good example! #eltchat > most certainly :) share generously and listen sensitively :)
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:13 PM
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@esolcourses #ELTChat im with u! Catching up..
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:13 PM
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@dalecoulter Must be the answer Dale, we need to go autonomous! #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:13 PM
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RT @JoHart: #ELTchat think usually pple have to be taught to reflect (I use journal tempates with qs to start stdnts off when 1st using reflection)
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:14 PM
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Self directed teachers, learning autonomously about what matters to them and seems important to them: good thing? #eltchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:14 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: In fact, peer pressure in most staffrooms is AGAINST reflection ---> I agree, in sum it's all about moaning. #ELTchat
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:14 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: @shaznosel For me & you, yes. I think different styles of reflection suit different teachers, just like learning styles for Ss. #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:14 PM
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@Shaunwilden Agreed, but you can't get them all can you!? #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:14 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: @shaznosel For me & you, yes. I think different styles of reflection suit different teachers, just like learning styles for Ss. #eltchat
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ElindaGjondedaj
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11/23/2011
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11:14 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: @dalecoulter Must be the answer Dale, we need to go autonomous! #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:14 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: I think reflection needs to come from within - be sth u feel u need to do - for it to work - peers can help, but can't do it for u #eltchat
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reasons4
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11/23/2011
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11:14 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: I think reflection needs to come from within - be sth u feel u need to do - for it to work - peers can help, but can't do it for u #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:14 PM
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@shaznosel For me & you, yes. I think different styles of reflection suit different teachers, just like learning styles for Ss. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:14 PM
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In fact, peer pressure in most staffrooms is AGAINST reflection - so we do need to find peers - a PLN outside the staffroom #ELTchat
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royparmesan
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11/23/2011
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11:14 PM
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Reflective practice #ELTchat: when teacher & student think different that's when it takes off
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eannegrenoble
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11/23/2011
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11:14 PM
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: How many of you work at schools where "reflective conversations in the staffroom" are the norm? #ELTchat NOT yet
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:14 PM
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RT @LeaSobocan: @shaznosel Ah, I see you dudes and dudettes as members of one big staffroom :) #ELTChat > yes :)
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:15 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: Self directed teachers, learning autonomously about what matters to them, seems important to them: good thing? #eltchat yes
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chrisjw133
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11/23/2011
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11:15 PM
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#eltchat Question: are reflective practices only about our own reflections or students/other staff? How can we used them for our reflections
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:15 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: Self directed teachers, learning autonomously about what matters to them and seems important to them: good thing? #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:15 PM
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@theteacherjames No but it its making think how much it is focused on in schools per se #ELTchat
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pysproblem81
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11/23/2011
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11:15 PM
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#eltchat - does structured peer mentoring aid #reflection? Does your school do it?
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:15 PM
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@jemjemgardner lol yes and more moaning #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:15 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: Self directed teachers, learning autonomously about what matters&seems important to them: good thing? #eltchat > yes!
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:15 PM
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@theteacherjames #eltchat Agree on that one..reflective practice = developmental insight
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:15 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: @shaznosel For me & you, yes. I think different styles of reflection suit different teachers, just like learning styles for Ss. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:15 PM
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@theteacherjames #eltchat Good point - we all have different styles and rates #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:15 PM
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@sandymillin You had a very good support team there though with DoS and Ados and i think that makes a big difference #ELTchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:15 PM
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RT @sandymillin: @inglishteacher yes, but most people seem unaware of their existence #getyourcrusadinghaton #ELTchat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:16 PM
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RT @sandymillin: RT @Shaunwilden:You had a very good support team there though with DoS and Ados and i think that makes a big difference #ELTchat definitely
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:16 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: appeals to the intrinsically motivated in this industry. For the rest? #eltchat > persuade em it saves time in planning ;)
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mattledding
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11/23/2011
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11:16 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: #ELTchat Summary: Assessing Oral Skills in Large Language Classes http://t.co/ruRsU4Pq via @yya2
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:16 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden:You had a very good support team there though with DoS and Ados and i think that makes a big difference #ELTchat definitely
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:16 PM
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RT @pysproblem81: #eltchat - does structured peer mentoring aid #reflection? Does your school do it?> It should - some leaders shd be here
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:16 PM
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@pysproblem81: #eltchat - does structured peer mentoring aid #reflection? --> THink it's a great idea, but hard to set up in some places.
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:16 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: Reflective practice ultimately appeals to the intrinsically motivated in this industry. For the rest? #eltchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:16 PM
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@Marisa_C @jemjemgardner Are we moaning about moaning here? ;-) #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:16 PM
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RT @chrisjw133: #eltchat Question: are reflective practices only about our own reflections or students/other staff? How can we used them for our reflections
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:16 PM
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Reflective practice ultimately appeals to the intrinsically motivated in this industry. For the rest? #eltchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:16 PM
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@dalecoulter I think so, but is there space for it in busy teachers' lives #eltchat
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vale360
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11/23/2011
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11:16 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: I think reflection needs to come from within - be sth u feel u need to do - for it to work - peers can help, but can't do it for u #eltchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:17 PM
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@JoshSRound Machiavellian, but recruit teachers you've trained and breed a culture of learning #ELTchat
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pysproblem81
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11/23/2011
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11:17 PM
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#Eltchat @Marisa_C @jemjemgardner we have 'Advanced Practitioners' who have that as one of their responsibilities
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:17 PM
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@Marisa_C E.g is @dalecoulter's reflection journals. Think it's a brilliant idea, but wouldn't work for me. Couldn't keep a diary! #eltchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:17 PM
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I think reflection can take place with or without the structure #eltchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:17 PM
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RT @eannegrenoble: RT @inglishteacher: @dalecoulter is there space for it in busy teachers' lives #eltchat > I don't see how busy T can keep up without it.
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chrisjw133
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11/23/2011
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11:17 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: Reflective practice ultimately appeals to the intrinsically motivated in this industry. For the rest? #eltchat < bribes?
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:17 PM
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@jemjemgardner I know exactly what you mean... ;-) #ELTchat
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:17 PM
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@AnthonyGaughan a good staff room, further training, all help 2 develop refl.practice...How best to establish as a school culture? #ELTchat
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eannegrenoble
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11/23/2011
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11:17 PM
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RT @inglishteacher: @dalecoulter is there space for it in busy teachers' lives #eltchat > I don't see how busy T can keep up without it.
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:17 PM
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RT @jemjemgardner: @pysproblem81: #eltchat - does structured peer mentoring aid #reflection? --> THink it's a great idea, but hard to set up in some places.
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:17 PM
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: @Marisa_C Are we moaning about moaning here? ;-) #ELTchat --> Us? Never! But you know what really gets my goat,...?
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:18 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: simply asking yourself 'how did that go?' is a good start #ELTchat > yup - or what can I take for the next class?
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:18 PM
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@cerirhiannon bit without the structure you need to be very motivated and/or have some external support. hard 2 do alone i think #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:18 PM
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@cerirhiannon #eltchat good one - but I hate washing up :-D
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:18 PM
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@eannegrenoble #eltchat agree. How can a busy teacher keep on top of everything WITHOUT reflection?
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:18 PM
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@cerirhiannon #eltchat or cleaning windows..
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eannegrenoble
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11/23/2011
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11:18 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: I think reflection can take place with or without the structure #eltchat >>fortunately
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:18 PM
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@Marisa_C #eltchat than what we need to foster is curiosity and questioning
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:18 PM
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Good Q! RT @dalecoulter: Reflective practice ultimately appeals to the intrinsically motivated in this industry. For the rest? #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:18 PM
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@cerirhiannon @Agreed, simply asking yourself 'how did that go?' is a good start #ELTchat
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harrisonmike
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11/23/2011
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11:18 PM
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@AnthonyGaughan I like this one! #eltchat cc @JoshSRound
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:18 PM
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@jemjemgardner @pysproblem81 #ELTchat also structured process doesn't suit some,,,
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:18 PM
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I reflect loads when I'm washing up - honest #eltchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:18 PM
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@JoshSRound Perhaps training sessions on how/where to do it, ideas / advantages etc.. #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:18 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: I think reflection can take place with or without the structure #eltchat > Agree but needs a Q-ing frame of mind
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:19 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @cerirhiannon did you use enough liquid, was that the right cloth and other such questions ;-) #ELTchat > LOL u know ...
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:19 PM
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@theteacherjames #eltchat Agree that reflective journals are not everyone's style or preference
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:19 PM
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@harrisonmike That's basically why we set up two #CELTA centres, actually! #eltchat
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:19 PM
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@AnthonyGaughan absolutely! Been my approach to recruitment for a while now... #ELTchat
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:19 PM
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#eltchat hi everyone. Sorry I'm late.
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:19 PM
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@eannegrenoble #eltchat How can a busy teacher keep on top of everything WITHOUT reflection? > there's the crux! and the selling point
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:19 PM
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RT @LeaSobocan: I find the most stimulating reflection takes place in the staffroom-bouncing ideass of each other #ELTChat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:19 PM
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@cerirhiannon did you use enough liquid, was that the right cloth and other such questions ;-) #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:19 PM
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@JoHart Agreed, I reflect best by thinking or even talking to myself (but don't tell anyone about that, okay ;-) ) #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:19 PM
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RT @jemjemgardner: @JoshSRound Perhaps training sessions on how/where to do it, ideas / advantages etc.. #ELTchat
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fionamau
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11/23/2011
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11:20 PM
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RT @esolcourses: RT @shaznosel: @LeaSobocan Wish we had a staffroom..this is my global staffroom! Thanks guys! #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:20 PM
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@dalecoulter Exactly my point, I'm more of a thinker, speaker and occasional blogger! #eltchat
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:20 PM
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@jemjemgardner @pysproblem81 #ELTchat . My compulsory rj for qual was written retrospectively in a few days - I reflected just no written
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:20 PM
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RT @shaznosel: @LeaSobocan Wish we had a staffroom..this is my global staffroom! Thanks guys! #eltchat
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:20 PM
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@cerirhiannon on my bike to and back from work, good thinking time. And ironing shirts too! #eltchat
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:20 PM
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#eltchat what's the topic?
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:20 PM
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@Marisa_C @theteacherjames No i have never been a fan of them #ELTchat but can see how others might be
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:20 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: @JoHart thinking or even talking to myself #eltchat > i do that too ;)
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:20 PM
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@dalecoulter agree Dale, though IME sometimes organisations can pressure teachers to develop in a way that suits their requirements #ELTChat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:20 PM
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@LeaSobocan Wish we had a staffroom..this is my global staffroom! Thanks guys! #eltchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:20 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: @eannegrenoble #eltchat How can a busy teacher keep on top of everything WITHOUT reflection? > there's the crux! and the selling point
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:20 PM
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@hartle Hi! #eltchat
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LeaSobocan
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11/23/2011
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11:21 PM
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@shaznosel Global staffroom like this one extends reflection-"works in my culture, does it in yours?" Gr8 for broadening horizons #ELTChat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:21 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: @cerirhiannon Best conversation I get, and we never argue! #eltchat > LOL
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:21 PM
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@esolcourses Or not develop but kind of flow into an institutional mould! #ELTChat
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chrisjw133
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11/23/2011
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11:21 PM
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@esolcourses @dalecoulter very true after all "we are selling a school idea, not individual teachers" my director speaking there #eltchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:21 PM
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@esolcourses True, which takes the 'self-directed' element away in my opinion. Big brother should help - not instruct. #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:21 PM
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@cerirhiannon Best conversation I get, and we never argue! #eltchat
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:21 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @hartle reflective practice #ELTchat thnx :-)
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:21 PM
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@JoshSRound yes, and in the shower ;) (sorry was that too much info!) #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:21 PM
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@hartle reflective practice #ELTchat
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ElindaGjondedaj
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11/23/2011
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11:21 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: I think reflection can take place with or without the structure #eltchat agree!!
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ElindaGjondedaj
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11/23/2011
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11:22 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: @dalecoulter Exactly my point, I'm more of a thinker, speaker and occasional blogger! #eltchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:22 PM
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important aspect of reflective practice is sharing ideas, that's why blogging is so great, at least you feel you have a listener #eltchat
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:22 PM
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#eltchat reflection essential without even writing it down. Just happens
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:22 PM
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@dalecoulter @Marisa_C agree, on both counts! #ELTChat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:22 PM
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@Shaunwilden #ELTchat more like..is that clean enough - do I blame the liquid or my muscle power????
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:22 PM
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@theteacherjames @cerirhiannon #ELTchat LOL such a relief it isn't just me! Thats why driving works - no-one can hear my convo with self
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:22 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: @esolcourses Big brother should help - not instruct. #eltchat > or butt out in fact?
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:23 PM
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RT @LeaSobocan: @shaznosel Global staffroom like this one extends reflection-"works in my culture, does it in yours?" Gr8 for broadening horizons #ELTChat
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eannegrenoble
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11/23/2011
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11:23 PM
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@esolcourses Can't agree with that one - I knowabout rigid systems (Fr national Ed) You start off by integrating the constraints #ELTChat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:23 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: Not writing down - how can you keep track of development? #eltchat > I think it's possible, continued internal convos
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ElindaGjondedaj
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11/23/2011
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11:23 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: Not writing down - no record - how can you keep track of development? #eltchat
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:23 PM
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#eltchat if you don't reflect you don't grow, but there is a fine line between awareness and over reflection and then insecurity
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:23 PM
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@cerirhiannon @dalecoulter in an ideal world Big Brother should butt out - in practice, cutting thru red tape can be difficult #ELTChat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:23 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: Not writing down - no record - how can you keep track of development? #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:23 PM
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@JoHart @cerirhiannon We might have to create a support group, Self Talking English Teachers Anonymous! #ELTchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:23 PM
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RT @LeaSobocan: @shaznosel Global staffroom like this one extends reflection-"works in my culture, does it in yours?" Gr8 for broadening horizons #ELTChat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:23 PM
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@inglishteacher Blogging is indeed a great tool for reflection - sense of peer audience puts you thru a reflective cycle #eltchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:23 PM
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Not writing down - no record - how can you keep track of development? #eltchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:23 PM
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wh@JoHart @theteacherjames *write* so many reflective blog posts in my car ;) never make it to the screen- but gr8 reflection :) #eltchat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:23 PM
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@LeaSobocan #ELTChat that's why we are here baby!
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:24 PM
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@dalecoulter maybe I do more washing up ;) #eltchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:24 PM
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@Marisa_C yes it does - should we use tools like blogging in institutions though or do they belong in personal domains? #eltchat
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:24 PM
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@cerirhiannon @dalecoulter @eannegrenoble depends on system you work within, perhaps #ELTChat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:24 PM
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@cerirhiannon @dalecoulter Completely agree Ceri #ELTchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:24 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: RT @dalecoulter: #eltchat > I think it's possible, continued internal convos - your memory is better than mine : )
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:24 PM
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RT @inglishteacher: important aspect of reflective practice is sharing ideas, that's why blogging is so great, at least you feel you have a listener #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:24 PM
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@theteacherjames STETA - a new acronum #ELTchat
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:24 PM
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@jemjemgardner yes, and an emphasis on personalised learning for teachers, development as growth not a correction technique #ELTchat
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chrisjw133
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11/23/2011
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11:24 PM
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@dalecoulter especially if you have a poor memory like me! I HAVE to write things down, reinforce the idea and provides a record #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:24 PM
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@dalecoulter Is the record important? I dont think is stopped me developing #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:25 PM
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RT @inglishteacher: @Marisa_C ... do blogs belong in personal domains? #eltchat > i think there's a dnager in institutionalisation
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:25 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: One thing I would point out - probably unecessary for this #ELTchat PLN tonight - is reflection without knowledge can go round and round
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:25 PM
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@cerirhiannon I definitely don't do enough of that #eltchat #angryhousemates
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:25 PM
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One thing I would point out - probably unecessary for this #ELTchat PLN tonight - is reflection without knowledge can go round and round
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royparmesan
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11/23/2011
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11:25 PM
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There are so many ways to do reflective journal #eltchat you can make it *fit* whatever ur style
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:25 PM
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@theteacherjames #eltchat Don't we all...we need a good' talking to 'at times!
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:25 PM
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RT @LeaSobocan: Contemplating starting a blog after listening 2 u guys #ELTChat @cerirhiannon
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:25 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @dalecoulter Is the record important? I dont think is stopped me developing #ELTchat
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:25 PM
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@cerirhiannon Lol! #eltchat
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reasons4
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11/23/2011
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11:25 PM
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RT @hartle: #eltchat if you don't reflect you don't grow, but there is a fine line between awareness and over reflection and then insecurity
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LeaSobocan
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11/23/2011
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11:25 PM
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Contemplating starting a blog after listening 2 u guys #ELTChat @cerirhiannon
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:25 PM
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There is a difference between an institution expecting reflection and dictating its method/results - question is: how? #eltchat
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:26 PM
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#eltchat >I agree that forcing people to reflect is counterproductive
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:26 PM
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@cerirhiannon @dalecoulter I bookmark webinars I've attended, make notes, blog (sometimes) keep an (occasional) reflective journal #ELTChat
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chrisjw133
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11/23/2011
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11:26 PM
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@Marisa_C good point! It makes me appriciate my DOS more #eltchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:26 PM
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@cerirhiannon i totally agree, I see blogs being incorporated into college moodle platforms and it puts me off blogging #eltchat
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ElindaGjondedaj
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11/23/2011
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11:26 PM
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RT @esolcourses: @cerirhiannon @dalecoulter @eannegrenoble depends on system you work within #ELTChat it really depends on each personality
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:26 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: One thing I would point out - probably unecessary for this #ELTchat PLN tonight - is reflectio… (cont) http://t.co/gwQVMVfs
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:26 PM
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@Marisa_C #ELTchat I guess that's why we are all here..to learn from each other and to reflect further??
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reasons4
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11/23/2011
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11:26 PM
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@dalecoulter I never write anything down..... I don't even keep a diary...but I reflect alright as anyone who knows me will testify #eltchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:26 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: ...they asked for lesson plans in advance. Better if they wanted them after & asked me how it went. #ELTchat > nice!
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:26 PM
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: How? Good question. Esp when freelance. Time = money that some don't wanna spend! #eltchat
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eannegrenoble
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11/23/2011
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11:26 PM
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RT @esolcourses: @cerirhiannon @dalecoulter but that's where the reflective diary is essential - keeping perpective #ELTChat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:26 PM
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Plenty of action and reflection and worry but no solutions available to practitioner teacher #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:26 PM
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I worked in a school where they asked for lesson plans in advance. Better if they wanted them after & asked me how it went. #ELTchat
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:26 PM
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: There is a difference between an institution expecting reflection and dictating its method/results - question is: how? #eltchat
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:26 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: One thing I would point out - probably unecessary for this #ELTchat PLN tonight - is reflection without knowledge can go round and round
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:26 PM
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@dalecoulter @AnthonyGaughan #ELTchat Record is in my head! don't need to write to internalise & learn - the "think" process does it for me
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:27 PM
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RT @hartle: #eltchat >forcing people to reflect is counterproductive > jbecomes an exercise in saying wht u think ppl want to hear
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:27 PM
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RT @esolcourses: @cerirhiannon @dalecoulter I bookmark webinars I've attended, make notes, blog (sometimes) keep an (occasional) reflective journal #ELTChat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:27 PM
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RT @hartle: #eltchat >I agree that forcing people to reflect is counterproductive --> Agree, but setting example and show how cld be useful!
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:27 PM
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RT @esolcourses: @cerirhiannon @dalecoulter I bookmark webinars I've attended...#ELTChat Wow, impressive :-)
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:27 PM
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@Marisa_C Isnt that where twitter and PLNS come in? #ELTchat
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mattledding
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11/23/2011
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11:27 PM
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@dalecoulter for the extrinsic motivated: eltchat ; ) #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:28 PM
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@jemjemgardner So - getting somewhere here: Modelling reflection is perhaps a good way of encouraging colleagues #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:28 PM
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@Marisa_C Yes i just meant it as an example #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:28 PM
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teach - reflect - put reflection into practice - reflect - out reflectin into practice ... #eltchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:28 PM
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and blogs are not just about 'writing' we can reflect through images, music, videos, colours and so on, #eltchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:28 PM
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: I know that, but try telling most of my colleagues! >>FALSE ECONOMY #eltchat
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ElindaGjondedaj
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11/23/2011
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11:28 PM
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RT @shaznosel: @Marisa_C #ELTchat I guess that's why we are all here..to learn from each other and to reflect further??
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:28 PM
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#ELTchat Does any1else find they think on feet & then reflection validates/justifies what they did? For me that consolidates knowledge
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mattledding
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11/23/2011
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11:28 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: One thing I would point out - probably unecessary for this #ELTchat PLN tonight - is reflection without knowledge can go round and round
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:28 PM
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RT @jemjemgardner: RT @hartle: #eltchat >I agree ...--> Agree, but setting example and show how cld be useful! Yes, not the same at all :-)
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chrisjw133
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11/23/2011
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11:28 PM
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@jemjemgardner @hartle and suggesting different methods for different learner types #eltchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:28 PM
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RT @jemjemgardner: RT @AnthonyGaughan: How? Good Q Esp when freelance. Time=money that some don't wanna spend! >>FALSE ECONOMY #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:28 PM
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@shaznosel @Shaunwilden #ELTchat Partly yes - we are learning from each other but we do need more than fragments of knowledge - No?
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:29 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: teach - reflect - put reflection into practice - reflect - out reflectin into practice ... #eltchat
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ElindaGjondedaj
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11/23/2011
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11:29 PM
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RT @inglishteacher: and blogs are not just about 'writing' we can reflect through images, music, videos, colours and so on, #eltchat
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reasons4
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11/23/2011
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11:29 PM
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@cerirhiannon @hartle agree totally maybe why it doesn't always work on Celta type courses #eltchat
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:29 PM
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@hartle LOL! not really - mostly use my CPD scoop.it to keep track of things these days http://t.co/Dgl4tMD1 #ELTChat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:29 PM
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RT @eannegrenoble: RT @theteacherjames: I wkd in a sch- they askd for lsson plans in advance. Better if they wanted them after & asked me how it went. #ELTchat
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ElindaGjondedaj
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11/23/2011
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11:29 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: teach - reflect - put reflection into practice - reflect - out reflectin into practice ... #eltchat
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eannegrenoble
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11/23/2011
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11:29 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: exactly #ELTchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:29 PM
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Also need to be careful that reflection doesn't become inflection: keep the students in mind #eltchat
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eannegrenoble
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11/23/2011
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11:29 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: I wkd in a sch- they askd for lsson plans in advance. Better if they wanted them after & asked me how it went. #ELTchat
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:29 PM
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RT @JoHart: #ELTchat Does any1else find they think on feet & then reflection validates/justifies what they did? ..Yes
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:30 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: Night #eltchat enjoy the rest :D
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harrisonmike
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11/23/2011
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11:30 PM
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Night #eltchat enjoy the rest :D
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:30 PM
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RT @inglishteacher: bloggers are not writers they are designers, they invest in their own teacher identities through blogging #eltchat
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hoprea
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11/23/2011
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11:30 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: One thing I would point out - probably unecessary for this #ELTchat PLN tonight - is reflection without knowledge can go round and round
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:30 PM
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bloggers are not writers they are designers, they invest in their own teacher identities through blogging #eltchat
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:30 PM
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@hartle @dalecoulter @cerirhiannon great thing about webinars is that most of them are recorded & you can go back & watch again #ELTChat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:30 PM
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@reasons4 It should though - but timeframe does not fit all learning rates in celta trainees #eltchat
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:30 PM
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#eltchat reflection when blogging gr8t coz people comment and help you too
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:30 PM
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@AlexandraGuzik #ELTchat Notes don't work for me (slightly dysgraphic) they just break thought processes
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:30 PM
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@reasons4 @cerirhiannon @hartle Agreed and perhaps cos we force them to it in one way #ELTchat
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ElindaGjondedaj
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11/23/2011
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11:30 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: Also need to be careful that reflection doesn't become inflection: keep the students in mind #eltchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:30 PM
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using blog to reflect 4 me means putting things clearly into words - not really for an audience, for me #eltchat but shring is motivating
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:30 PM
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@JoshSRound Exactly, being able to offer diff ways to work on CPD, not just "our" way. #ELTchat
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e_d_driscoll
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11/23/2011
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11:30 PM
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#eltchat working as a self employed private tutor my reflection largely consists of 'Are they going to keep paying?'
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:30 PM
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@jemjemgardner @hartle this is the challenge, don't want to force refl.practice, but keen to do more than simply promote.. #ELTchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:31 PM
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Reflective practice is an umbrella term that includes a lot: what practices does it consist of?#eltchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:31 PM
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Reflective practice is an umbrella term that includes a lot: what practices does it consist of?#eltchat
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:31 PM
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#eltchat sometimes I risk smthg in class, reflect then write & colleagues say wht they think...Invaluable
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:31 PM
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#eltchat sometimes I risk smthg in class, reflect then write & colleagues say wht they think...Invaluable
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:31 PM
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invite reflcetive practiotioners to give workshops - takl about their experience - share ideas -t to t - not management to teacher #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:31 PM
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RT @jemjemgardner: @JoshSRound Tnk a lot of Ts just need to be shown the benefits, then will start the Refl journey. #ELTchat
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eannegrenoble
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11/23/2011
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11:31 PM
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RT @JoHart: #ELTchat Does any1else find they think on feet & then reflection validates/justifies what they did? For me that consolidates knowledge
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:31 PM
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@harrisonmike Nacht! #eltchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:31 PM
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@JoshSRound Tnk a lot of Ts just need to be shown the benefits, then will start the Refl journey. #ELTchat
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LeaSobocan
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11/23/2011
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11:31 PM
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@Marisa_C @jemjemgardner I think some of my coll would get me a free trip2looney bin if I tried 2 pull that1 off-freelancers no $$$ #ELTChat
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:31 PM
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RT @esolcourses: @hartle @dalecoulter @cerirhiannon great thing about webinars is that most of them are recorded & you can go back & watch again #ELTChat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:31 PM
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@Marisa_C #ELTchat yes ! share our thoughts, then later research further on a point mentioned by a colleague..cont learning
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:32 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: RT @hartle: #eltchat >forcing people to reflect is counterproductive > jbecomes an exercise in saying wht u think ppl want to hear
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:32 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: @hartle #eltchat me too> I feel safe experimenting & that's how we grow :-)
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:32 PM
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@Marisa_C I would say so, think most don't know what/how to do it. #eltchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:32 PM
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@Marisa_C I would say so, think most don't know what/how to do it. #eltchat
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walterlasula
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11/23/2011
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11:32 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: Also need to be careful that reflection doesn't become inflection: keep the students in mind #eltchat
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walterlasula
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11/23/2011
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11:32 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: Also need to be careful that reflection doesn't become inflection: keep the students in mind #eltchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:32 PM
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@hartle #eltchat me too> I feel safe experimenting
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:32 PM
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@hartle #eltchat me too> I feel safe experimenting
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e_d_driscoll
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11/23/2011
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11:32 PM
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#eltchat language learning is a long, cumulative process- how effective is intensive reflection on a lesson by lesson basis anyway?
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e_d_driscoll
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11/23/2011
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11:32 PM
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#eltchat language learning is a long, cumulative process- how effective is intensive reflection on a lesson by lesson basis anyway?
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walterlasula
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11/23/2011
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11:32 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: Reflective practice is an umbrella term that includes a lot: what practices does it consist of?#eltchat
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walterlasula
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11/23/2011
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11:32 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: Reflective practice is an umbrella term that includes a lot: what practices does it consist of?#eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:33 PM
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Is this a reflective circle? Do you feel sth like #ELTchat helps you reflect?
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:33 PM
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From a DoS/school perspective, any ideas on a kind of monitoring system? We are trying portfolios this yr but am not convinced #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:33 PM
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@JoshSRound do you have a mentoring system there already? if it works I think that's one of the best ways to encourage reflection #ELTchat
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:33 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: @hartle live and learn #eltchat : ) lol
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:33 PM
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when It'ing 25-30 contact hrs a wk I kept a log book. wrote quick notes at end of each class used them 2 recall & plan 4 nxt class #eltchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:33 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: Refl pract is umbrella term: includes a lot: what practices does it consist of? > stop-recall-alternate-evaluate? #eltchat
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mattledding
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11/23/2011
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11:33 PM
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Battery dead... Looking forward to read all the #eltchat reflections later.
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:33 PM
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@hartle live and learn #eltchat : )
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:33 PM
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@e_d_driscoll Very! Baby steps and all that! #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:33 PM
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@cerirhiannon good idea, have reflective circles in the same sort of way as reading circles #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:34 PM
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@AlexandraGuzik I think asking sts is imp as they often see a lesson completely differently from you #ELTchat
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:34 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Is this a reflective circle? Do you feel sth like #ELTchat helps you reflect? ] absolutely, yes.
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:34 PM
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: @JoshSRound I have a nasty suspicion that top-down management of reflection is anathema to it. Culture (bottom-up) must drive. #eltchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:34 PM
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at the mo I'm concentrating on 1 thing - experimenting with that - reflecting on that - learning about other things along the way #eltchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:34 PM
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@JoshSRound I have a nasty suspicion that top-down management of reflection is anathema to it. Culture (bottom-up) must drive. #eltchat
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:34 PM
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@JoshSRound #ELTchat hm! the moment you start monitoring - it feels like coercion - difficult!
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:34 PM
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RT @hartle: RT @JoHart: #ELTchat Does any1else find they think on feet & then reflection validates/justifies what they did? ..Yes
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AlexandraGuzik
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11/23/2011
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11:34 PM
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Why not 2 ask what Ss think of lessons? Could it work anyhow? I asked Ss 2 write short twit-like notes - opinion and areas to impr #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:34 PM
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@AnthonyGaughan What exactly do you mean by 'alternate' in that cycle? #ELTchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:34 PM
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with all the digital opportunities there has never been a better time to reflect - that's what we are doing now #eltchat
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:35 PM
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@jemjemgardner Yes, i think sharing your learning with others can start to promote wider refl.practice #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:35 PM
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RT @hartle: #eltchat on class blog I have overview of week for stds which is a way for me to reflect with them http://t.co/FWAR5C4s > nice
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ElindaGjondedaj
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11/23/2011
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11:35 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Is this a reflective circle? Do you feel sth like #ELTchat helps you reflect? In some way yes
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:35 PM
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: RT @dalecoulter: Refl pract is umbrella term: includes a lot: what practices does it consist of? > stop-recall-alternate-evaluate? #eltchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:35 PM
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RT @hartle: #eltchat on class blog I have overview of week for stds which is a way for me to reflect with them http://t.co/buz8NWrt
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:35 PM
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RT @esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: Is this a reflective circle? Do you feel sth like #ELTchat helps you reflect? ] absolutely, yes.
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reasons4
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11/23/2011
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11:35 PM
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β€@hartle: RT @JoHart: #ELTchat Does any1else find they think on feet & then reflection validates/justifies what they did? ..Yesβ€ me too
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eannegrenoble
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11/23/2011
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11:35 PM
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RT @e_d_driscoll: #eltchat how effective is intensive reflenon a lesson by lesn basis anyway? - where does the "length" come from otherwise
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:35 PM
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#eltchat on class blog I have overview of week for stds which is a way for me to reflect with them http://t.co/buz8NWrt
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:35 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: using blog to reflect 4 me means putting things clearly into words - not really for an audience, for me #eltchat but shring is motivating
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:36 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: invite reflcetive practiotioners to give workshops - takl about their experience - share ideas -t to t - not management to teacher #eltchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:36 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: So a sharing culture (whether blogging or not) encourages reflection? #ELtchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:36 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: So a sharing culture (whether blogging or not) encourages reflection? #ELtchat ---> I think so.
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:36 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat :-)
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reasons4
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11/23/2011
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11:36 PM
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@Marisa_C I think all Celta does it set out the ground rules for good practice but that is off the point #eltchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:36 PM
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@eannegrenoble track changes, patterns in teaching practices for long term? #eltchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:36 PM
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: @JoshSRound top-down management of reflection is anathema to it. Culture (bottom-up) must drive. #eltchat > totally!
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vickyloras
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11/23/2011
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11:36 PM
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#ELTChat Just joined, sorry - will lurk at first : )
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:36 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @cerirhiannon good idea, have reflective circles in the same sort of way as reading circles #ELTchat
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eannegrenoble
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11/23/2011
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11:36 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: when It'ing 25-30 contact hrs a wk I kept a log book. wrote quick notes at end of each class used them 2 recall & plan 4 nxt class #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:36 PM
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So a sharing culture (whether blogging or not) encourages reflection? #ELtchat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:36 PM
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@e_d_driscoll #eltchat sometimes you just know something wasn't right...so you reflect - it gets to you!!!!
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:37 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: at the mo I'm concentrating on 1 thing - experimenting with that - reflecting on that - learning about other things along the way #eltchat
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TLCnewcastle
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11/23/2011
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11:37 PM
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@CELT_Athens: β€I wish I had known that when I started teachingβ€ ( an #ELTchat summary) http://t.co/oeGN0qzX #ELTchat Nice tips in here thx
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:37 PM
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@vickyloras Hello! #ELTChat
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chrisjw133
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11/23/2011
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11:37 PM
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#eltchat In my school we teach the same levels on the same pace chart [same week]. Encourages sharing what worked/didn't
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:37 PM
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@reasons4 Agree but it does include the elements of reflective practice tho who takes it up a diff Q #eltchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:37 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: So a sharing culture (whether blogging or not) encourages reflection? #ELtchat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:37 PM
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@Marisa_C #ELtchat Sharing means you are thinking, considering and evaluating yourself and you just need confirmation..
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:37 PM
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RT @reasons4: @Marisa_C I think all Celta...#eltchat Our Celta had 'hot' reflection st8t after TP which is good but cold reflection no
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:37 PM
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RT @JoHart: @Marisa_C #ELTchat Yes! Sharing & non-judgemental is essential > oh yes, totally agree - non-judgmental (ofself too)
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:37 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Yes i think so, if you share you do so on the basis of having evaluated which is relfection #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:37 PM
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@Marisa_C #ELTchat forces me to reflect (in a good way!) by challenging me & questioning my values, based on my experiences.
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:37 PM
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@Marisa_C Yes i think so, if you share you do so on the basis of having evaluated which is relfection #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:37 PM
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RT @jemjemgardner: RT @Marisa_C: So a sharing culture (whether blogging or not) encourages reflection? #ELtchat > yes, sharing is imp
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:37 PM
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@Marisa_C #ELTchat Yes! Sharing & non-judgemental is essential
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:38 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: #eltchat CELTA helps trainees reflect but where does it say "guys - do this in your job - it's not just part of the final mark"
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:38 PM
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@royparmesan But what they think about learning might be formed on unsound ideas? #ELTchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:38 PM
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#eltchat CELTA helps trainees reflect but where does it say "guys - do this in your job - it's not just part of the final mark"
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:38 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: @Marisa_C #ELTchat forces me to reflect (in a good way!) by challenging me & questioning my values, based on my experiences.
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e_d_driscoll
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11/23/2011
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11:38 PM
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#eltchat I don't really see the hour as my didactic unit- I tend to evaluate success over a longer period
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:38 PM
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@sandymillin no, not a structured system, but agree this would help, need to work on that! #eltchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:38 PM
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@Marisa_C yes nothing better than intercultural differences as a focus of reflection #eltchat
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royparmesan
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11/23/2011
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11:38 PM
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How students think abt learning is key to reflective process. Without this why bother #eltchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:38 PM
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encouraging team teaching can encourage reflection #eltchat - 1 way management can maybe help?
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:39 PM
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: @hartle Why was it like that? Why give tutor FB b4 listening to what trainees had to say? #eltchat --> My Q too!
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:39 PM
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RT @JoshSRound: From a DoS/school perspective, any ideas on a kind of monitoring system? We are trying portfolios this yr but am not convinced #eltchat
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:39 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: #eltchat CELTA helps trainees reflect but where does it say ... This depends on maturity and motivation of trainee
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:39 PM
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@hartle Why was it like that? Why give tutor FB b4 listening to what trainees had to say? #eltchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:39 PM
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@jemjemgardner #eltchat they're lucky to have you as a trainer
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:39 PM
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OK - we know that sm of u do it while washing up - what is your own best way of reflecting on your current/past practices? #Eltchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:39 PM
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@e_d_driscoll it all adds up - every little helps as they say #eltchat
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OztrkOzge
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11/23/2011
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11:39 PM
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looking 4wrd 2 reading #eltchat reflections later...
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:40 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: encouraging team teaching can encourage reflection - 1 way management can maybe help? > worked for me! #eltchat
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:40 PM
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: @hartle #eltchat No, trainees wrote own reflections, tutor commented. Tht was really useful, but nt l8ter ...
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llea_dias
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11/23/2011
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11:40 PM
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#eltchat Hello everyone. I've just arrived. Trying to catch up.
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:40 PM
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RT @hartle: RT @dalecoulter: #eltchat Moivation, yes. Maturity? No.
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little_miss_glo
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11/23/2011
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11:40 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: what is your own best way of reflecting on your current/past practices? #Eltchat // through lesson plans, after the lesson
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:41 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C I have an internal conversation all the time and discuss with colleagues like @reasons4 when working with someone #ELTchat
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little_miss_glo
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11/23/2011
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11:41 PM
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@Marisa_C #ELTChat tried it with the next group. That way I could see better what worked and why it worked
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:41 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: @jemjemgardner And you're capable of relfection too!! #eltchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:41 PM
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@theteacherjames @JoshSRound what about when there is no team, new teachers left on their own? #eltchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:41 PM
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@JoshSRound Sometimes a group of people find each other - feel that was the case in some of my best SRs, and becoming case again. #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:41 PM
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@Marisa_C I have an internal conversation all the time and discuss with colleagues like @reasons4 when working with someone #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:41 PM
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current way - plan, reflect on what might work -post-plan reflect on what did/didn't work - talk to colleagues/blog #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:41 PM
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@little_miss_glo If you write up even a quick draft of a lesson then a good doc to annotate with your reflections? #Eltchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:41 PM
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@AnthonyGaughan @JoshSRound @johart so not monitoring, but encouragement - at least try it for a few weeks, then stop if they want #eltchat
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vickyloras
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11/23/2011
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11:41 PM
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RT @royparmesan: How students think abt learning is key to reflective process. Without this why bother #eltchat
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:41 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: @jemjemgardner Maturity in what way? I still laugh at my 15 year-old's jokes : ) #eltchat Hahaha
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:41 PM
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@jemjemgardner Maturity in what way? I still laugh at my 15 year-old's jokes : ) #eltchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:42 PM
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@esolcourses then join #eltchat
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eannegrenoble
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11/23/2011
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11:42 PM
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RT @theteacherjames: I worked in a school where they asked for lesson plans in advance. Better if they wanted them after & asked me how it went. #ELTchat
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reasons4
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11/23/2011
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11:42 PM
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β€@dalecoulter: Ref pra is an umbrella term that includes a lot: what practices does it consist of?#eltchatβ€ isn't that up to the individual?
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:42 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: @theteacherjames @JoshSRound what about when there is no team #eltchat They need eltchat :-)
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:42 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: @theteacherjames @JoshSRound what about when there is no team, new teachers left on their own? #eltchat > PLN?
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:42 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: @theteacherjames @JoshSRound what about when there is no team, new teachers left on their own? #eltchat ] good point
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:43 PM
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@little_miss_glo #ELTChat In fact if u teach same level/class introduce small experiments and observe effects #ELTchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:43 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @dalecoulter hopefully those on their own will look on the web and then find a support network #ELTchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:43 PM
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How early? RT @cerirhiannon: @dalecoulter @theteacherjames @JoshSRound maybe initial training courses shd introduce ts to PLNs? #eltchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:43 PM
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@reasons4 completely, was calling for a definition of terminology #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:43 PM
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@dalecoulter hopefully those on their own will look on the web and then find a support network #ELTchat
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:43 PM
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RT @shaznosel: @JoshSRound #eltchat to reflect - tchrs need to evaluate themselves continually and experiment and comment
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:43 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: @dalecoulter @theteacherjames @JoshSRound maybe initial training courses shd be introducing ts to PLNs? #eltchat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:43 PM
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@JoshSRound #eltchat to reflect - tchrs need to evaluate themselves continually and experiment and comment
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:43 PM
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@little_miss_glo If you have repeats of the same lesson with dfferent group a great way to do it #ELTChat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:43 PM
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@dalecoulter @theteacherjames @JoshSRound maybe initial training courses shd be introducing ts to PLNs? #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:43 PM
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@chrisjw133 encourages sharing, but not very individual for the students - assumes they all learn at same pace #eltchat
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:44 PM
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@dalecoulter that is where this kind of 'online team' comes into its own! #eltchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:44 PM
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Do teachers know that though? not so sure #eltchat@eannegrenoble
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little_miss_glo
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11/23/2011
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11:44 PM
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@Marisa_C #ELTChat it makes lesson-planning feel more effective. A lot of teachers I know never look back at old lesson plans!
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:44 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: current way - plan, reflect on what might work -post-plan reflect on what did/didn't work - talk to colleagues/blog #eltchat
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:44 PM
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@cerirhiannon @dalecoulter @theteacherjames @JoshSRound @hartle #ELTchat - some do intro nt's future ts to PLN but it doesn't always "stick"
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:45 PM
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Abs agree! RT @cerirhiannon: @dalecoulter @theteacherjames @JoshSRound maybe initial training courses shd be introducing ts toPLNs? #eltchat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:45 PM
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@dalecoulter #eltchat One hopes new teachers will switch on and find ELTchat etc...
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:45 PM
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@esolcourses @dalecoulter @theteacherjames @JoshSRound defintely #ELTchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:45 PM
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RT @esolcourses: RT @dalecoulter: @theteacherjames @JoshSRound can't speak for anyone else, but as a freelancer twitter doubles as my staffroom #ELTChat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:45 PM
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RT @cerirhiannon: @dalecoulter @theteacherjames @JoshSRound maybe initial training courses shd be introducing ts to PLNs? #eltchat <yes
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:45 PM
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RT @esolcourses: RT @dalecoulter: @theteacherjames @JoshSRound as a freelancer twitter doubles as my staffroom #ELTChat > me too
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little_miss_glo
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11/23/2011
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11:45 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: @little_miss_glo In fact if u teach same level/class introduce small experiments and observe effects #ELTchat // exactly!
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:45 PM
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RT @JoHart: @cerirhiannon @dalecoulter @theteacherjames @JoshSRound @hartle #ELTchat - some do ... Agreed. Trainees have so much new stuff"
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:45 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: @theteacherjames @JoshSRound can't speak for anyone else, but as a freelancer twitter doubles as my staffroom #ELTChat
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:46 PM
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@dalecoulter:@theteacherjames @JoshSRound although I do have a gr8 offline PLN too, I rarely see them as we don't connect via work #ELTChat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:46 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: anyone tried backward planning? Rough plan ahead then reflect & improve? #ELTchat >all the time :)don't plan any other way ;)
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:46 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Has anyone tried backward planning? Post lesson planning ...#ELTchat Yes, tends to happen all the time
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:46 PM
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@Shaunwilden @dalecoulter that assumes they're technophiles like us; many shy away from the net, except maybe for facebook #ELTchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:46 PM
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@Marisa_C I think @jemjemgardner has #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:46 PM
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@reasons4 though it does help to be able to reflect over some nice cold czech beers :-) #ELTchat
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AlexandraGuzik
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11/23/2011
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11:46 PM
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@Shaunwilden @dalecoulter hopefully those on their own will lfind a support network #ELTchat They find you in Twitter! Fortunately!
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:46 PM
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RT @JoshSRound: Abs agree! RT @cerirhiannon: @dalecoulter @theteacherjames @JoshSRound maybe initial training courses shd be introducing ts toPLNs? #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:46 PM
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Has anyone tried backward planning? Post lesson planning that is? Rough plan ahead then reflect and improve? #ELTchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:46 PM
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RT @shaznosel: @dalecoulter #eltchat One hopes new teachers will switch on and find ELTchat etc...
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:47 PM
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@Shaunwilden only if they know that they need to look for it. they might not realise that they can. can be lonely starting to teach #ELTchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:47 PM
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RT @inglishteacher: @Marisa_C I think @jemjemgardner has #eltchat --> She def has! All the time.
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:47 PM
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@JoshSRound #eltchat this way new teachers would not be alone and not be afraid of what their peers think - anon. chat - just like now!
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:47 PM
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@sandymillin True but is it not the natural place to look for something? #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:47 PM
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@sandymillin @esolcourses @Shaunwilden @hartle @JoHart @cerirhiannon @dalecoulter @JoshSRound PLN is my freelancers staffroom too!! #ELTchat
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little_miss_glo
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11/23/2011
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11:48 PM
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#ELTchat @Marisa_C I had to do it as part of a project for a course I took recently. I liked the idea, but my institution didn't. =(
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:48 PM
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@sandymillin I know! 5 years as the only full time teacher in a school :-)though i did make friends with other tchrs #ELTchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:48 PM
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RT @sandymillin: @Shaunwilden can be lonely starting to teach -->True, took me 4 years to find this PLN!! #ELTchat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:48 PM
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RT @hartle: #eltchat I asked my 19/20 yr old stds today how many use Twitter.... Very few. Thy don't know how
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:48 PM
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#eltchat I asked my 19/20 yr old stds today how many use Twitter.... Very few. Thy don't know how
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:48 PM
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@jemjemgardner yes just reading about it all of course today :) #eltchat
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esolcourses
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11/23/2011
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11:48 PM
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RT @hartle: RT @Marisa_C: Has anyone tried backward planning? Post lesson planning ...#ELTchat Yes, tends to happen all the time ] same here
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:48 PM
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@Marisa_C Reverse planning, that's what I've really started to do now. Outline, then fill in the details later. #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:48 PM
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@cerirhiannon Used to do it with CTEFL crse b4 we introdced CELTA - produced more reflective teachers in the long run #ELTchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:48 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Has anyone tried backward planning? Post lesson planning that is? Rough plan ahead then reflect and improve? #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:49 PM
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RT @reasons4: @Marisa_C sort of ..my lessons are never tightly planned but then I sit and think why things did or didn't work after #eltchat
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:49 PM
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: @hartle I thought that last post of yours on digital nativism was very enlightening, BTW #eltchat thnx :-)
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:49 PM
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RT @reasons4: @Marisa_C sort of .... my lessons are never tightly planned but then I sit and think y thgs did or didn't work after #ELTchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:49 PM
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Haven't tried backwards planning yet (too much of a control freak) but trying to hand over to SS more. want to see how others do it #eltchat
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:49 PM
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@hartle @shaznosel #ELTchat bet they use FB though? I am starting to use FB with my literacy stdnts
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e_d_driscoll
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11/23/2011
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11:49 PM
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#eltchat what's PLN?
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:49 PM
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RT @ElindaGjondedaj: #ELTchat I keep all my lesson plans and every now and then I go back and see what objectives have been really achieved
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:49 PM
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@hartle I thought that last post of yours on digital nativism was very enlightening, BTW #eltchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:49 PM
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RT @sandymillin: @Shaunwilden only if they know that they need to look for it. they might not realise that they can. can be lonely starting to teach #ELTchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:49 PM
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@inglishteacher ;-) #eltchat
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ElindaGjondedaj
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11/23/2011
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11:49 PM
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#ELTchat I keep all my lesson plans and every now and then I go back and see what objectives have been really achieved
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:49 PM
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@shaznosel yes, perfect environment to share, reflect, grow etc etc ;-)) #ELTchat
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LeaSobocan
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11/23/2011
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11:49 PM
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@cerirhiannon @Marisa_C Try 2 backplan as well, but hope my DOS doesn't catch me ;) #ELTChat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:50 PM
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@e_d_driscoll professional/personal learning network. online/offline - the people who/help support you to become a better teacher #eltchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:50 PM
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@sandymillin Give it a go!! The rewards are plentiful! :-) #eltchat
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eannegrenoble
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11/23/2011
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11:51 PM
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RT @sandymillin: With long term objectives clear - backplanning becomes the only way to go #eltchat
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hartle
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11/23/2011
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11:51 PM
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#eltchat sorry everyone, gotta go. Early start 2morrow. Thnx for a fast, well moderated as always chat :-)
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:51 PM
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@shaznosel I've read my journals from two years ago. It's a bit different. I guess that means I've grown #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:51 PM
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@jemjemgardner would like to see examples. i like to have quite a solid plan, though often don't follow it. #eltchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:51 PM
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@e_d_driscoll PLN = Personal/Professional Learning Network (people you follow/are in contact with for this) #eltchat
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AlexandraGuzik
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11/23/2011
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11:52 PM
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Shall we have properly planned aims b4 lessons and roughly planned procedure? and then write down the proper way it worked? #eltchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:52 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: @sandymillin I tried to give one on my blog of a pre and post plan. Will put more up in the near future #eltchat GREAT!!
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:52 PM
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@shaznosel so you know you've changed somehow - you've been reflecting :) #eltchat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:52 PM
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@cerirhiannon #eltchat With you! Sometimes i think why did I do that/not do that...while I m cleaning the windows - reflecting....
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:52 PM
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@sandymillin I tried to give one on my blog of a pre and post plan. Will put more up in the near future #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:52 PM
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@hartle cheers Susan gotta talk abt iatefl sometime soonish #eltchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:52 PM
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@sandymillin http://t.co/t3dK2hMH Bit long winded one, but the only digital one I have. #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:52 PM
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@dalecoulter how did you start your journals alone? did you choose to, hear about it, see someone else doing it and copy idea? #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:53 PM
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@inglishteacher nice to see you here again :-) #ELTchat
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inglishteacher
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11/23/2011
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11:53 PM
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bye bye good night all, great to be back again on #eltchat
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ElindaGjondedaj
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11/23/2011
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11:53 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: @shaznosel I've read my journals from two years ago. It's a bit different. I guess that means I've grown #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:53 PM
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@sandymillin @jemjemgardner I've really embraced it recently, I find it very useful, especially as a form of reflection #letgosandy #eltchat
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eannegrenoble
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11/23/2011
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11:54 PM
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#ELTchat - I'm off with the early starters 2moro - thanks - will think about it now
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royparmesan
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11/23/2011
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11:54 PM
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@sandymillin #eltchat One way to do it: lay out *awareness track* to get students co-planning. Works for me as benefit outweighs risk
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:54 PM
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@theteacherjames @dalecoulter @jemjemgardner exam's in 2 weeks, so don't want to start now! #eltchat :)
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:54 PM
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@Marisa_C Tried but the students were too excited (adults), is this normal? #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:54 PM
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@theteacherjames @dalecoulter @jemjemgardner Thanks! Will start doing it after Christmas once I've moved on from my FCE class #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:54 PM
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@AlexandraGuzik Sounds good to me #eltchat
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:54 PM
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#ELTchat great convo thq all - have to get ready to go to work - catch ya later :) Sleep well thos of you in night TZs
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:54 PM
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@Marisa_C Yes not plesant viewing :-) #ELTchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:54 PM
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@AlexandraGuzik Make a plan - see how you deviated from it, why? #eltchat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:54 PM
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@inglishteacher #eltchat totally! Reflecting can sometimes be depressing ..OMG.I used to do that.. or didn't do that..ahggg!!
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:54 PM
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@AlexandraGuzik: Sometimes my aim is to help them get better at whatever comes up in lesson. But an aim is a good start, yes! #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:54 PM
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Have you tried videotaping yourself occasionally? #ELTchat anyone?
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:55 PM
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@AnthonyGaughan Reflection in action? How do you manage this? #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:55 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Yes not plesant viewing :-) #ELTchat> who loves themselves on video? :-D
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:55 PM
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RT @jemjemgardner: RT @sandymillin: @theteacherjames @dalecoulter YAY X2!!!! #eltchat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:55 PM
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RT @sandymillin: @Shaunwilden @dalecoulter that assumes they're technophiles like us; many shy away from the net, except maybe for facebook #ELTchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:55 PM
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@royparmesan what's an 'awareness track'? #eltchat
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chrisjw133
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11/23/2011
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11:55 PM
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@Marisa_C Did it on my CELTA. I really ought to look at that video and compare it to now! I Bet it would scare me! #eltchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:55 PM
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RT @sandymillin: @theteacherjames @dalecoulter YAY!!!! #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:56 PM
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@Marisa_C We have to be careful not to over reflect :-) #ELTchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:56 PM
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@JoshSRound I review my journal. Create mini action research projects and include them in my teaching. #eltchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:56 PM
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RT @sandymillin: @theteacherjames @dalecoulter Fair enough. Find exams hard for unpl. As only see them once a week. :-(#eltchat :)
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:56 PM
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RT @JoshSRound: new insightsshd be put into use - to what extent do u measure how much this happens? #eltchat > self-regulation?
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:56 PM
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@Marisa_C true but when you first do it and see all the things you cld improve :-) #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:56 PM
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@dalecoulter don't know - our Ss quite cool abt it :-D Then they give advice to the teachers at the end :-D #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:56 PM
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@Marisa_C Very valuable to be videoed. Happened to me once, & I asked for a copy. I was the only teacher who did #missedopportunity #ELTchat
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JoshSRound
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11/23/2011
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11:56 PM
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Reflection leads to new insights...these then shd be put into use - to what extent do u measure how much this happens? #eltchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:57 PM
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@sandymillin Lucky you, then do it! Wish I could. Let me know how it goes! #eltchat
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RebuffetBroadus
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11/23/2011
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11:57 PM
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RT @royparmesan: How students think abt learning is key to reflective process. Without this why bother #eltchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:57 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: @JoshSRound I review my journal. Create mini action research projects and include them in my teaching. #eltchat --> Same.
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:57 PM
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@jemjemgardner I see mine every day, but didn't know exam well enough to go unplugged. think would be easier next time #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:57 PM
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@Shaunwilden I have some v old videos of self - truly scary :-D #ELTchat
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shaznosel
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11/23/2011
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11:58 PM
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@theteacherjames #ELTchat definitely SS friendly and SS centered - may be Lps are a little teach centered if we r honest?!
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:58 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: Three minutes left of #ELTchat time to reflect on what we've learned over the last hour? --> It would only be fitting.
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:58 PM
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@cerirhiannon I was in the wrong queue the day they were handing out short/medium/long term memory #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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11/23/2011
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11:58 PM
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Three minutes left of #ELTchat time to reflect on what we've learned over the last hour?
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theteacherjames
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11/23/2011
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11:58 PM
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@jemjemgardner @sandymillin @dalecoulter Looking forward to reading about it on one of your many blogs Sandy! #eltchat
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ElindaGjondedaj
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11/23/2011
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11:58 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C We have to be careful not to over reflect :-) #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:58 PM
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RT @dalecoulter: @JoshSRound Create mini action research projects include them in my teaching. #eltchat > do sth similar but in my head ;)
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:59 PM
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Which brings us perhaps to the next point - reflection without some idea of means of evaluation? What do you think? #ELtchat
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dalecoulter
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11/23/2011
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11:59 PM
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@cerirhiannon I know, I was there too ; ) #eltchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/23/2011
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11:59 PM
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@dalecoulter I was in the wrong queue when they were handing out organisational skills :) #eltchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/23/2011
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11:59 PM
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@Marisa_C That's what I though. #ELTchat
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JoHart
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11/23/2011
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11:59 PM
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@theteacherjames @Marisa_C #ELTchat Was videoed many x as Riding Instructor & horse rider - love it - can see clearly what I need to change!
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/23/2011
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11:59 PM
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@dalecoulter Hmm, wrote about this on @Harmerj 's blog recently. Catch myself out thinking sometimes & take a mo to let it flow. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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11/23/2011
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11:59 PM
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This is the essence of the experimental practice on DELTA courses - shame it's only one assignment #ELTchat
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sandymillin
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11/23/2011
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11:00 PM
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RT @brad5patterson: Back to the drawing board http://t.co/xnDPvAg9 by @cerirhiannon #eltchat #elt
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dalecoulter
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11/24/2011
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12:00 AM
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@AnthonyGaughan Been doing it myself too. It's helped a lot with the idea of control in my classroom: who has it? #eltchat
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ElindaGjondedaj
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11/24/2011
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12:01 AM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Self-evaluation is part of the reflective process isnt it? Anything more formal would detract from the process? #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/24/2011
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12:01 AM
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RT @Marisa_C: reflection without means of evaluation? What do you think? #ELtchat > going back into class & experimenting is evaluation?
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Marisa_C
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11/24/2011
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12:01 AM
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How do you evaluate what you do? Learning outcomes? Learner reactions? Learner reflections? Or just your own? #eltchat
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shaznosel
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11/24/2011
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12:01 AM
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@Marisa_C #ELTchat so agree! The best lesson !plus you are not observed - totally for your SS and not to impress the DELTA tutor!
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Shaunwilden
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11/24/2011
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12:01 AM
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@Marisa_C Self-evaluation is part of the reflective process isnt it? Anything more formal would detract from the process? #ELTchat
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theteacherjames
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11/24/2011
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12:01 AM
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@JoHart @Marisa_C Horse riding analogy: it's similar, you can observe your behaviour from the outside, see how you move etc. #ELTchat
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dalecoulter
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11/24/2011
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12:01 AM
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@Marisa_C Where is the (potential) evaluation from? Is it bottom-up or top-town? #eltchat
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JoshSRound
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11/24/2011
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12:01 AM
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RT @Marisa_C: Which brings us perhaps to the next point - reflection without some idea of means of evaluation? What do you think? #ELtchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/24/2011
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12:01 AM
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@dalecoulter Love that tweet just gone about LPs being essentially teacher centred. #eltchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/24/2011
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12:02 AM
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RT @Marisa_C: How do you evaluate what you do? #eltchat > observing learning outcomes, learner autonomy, group dynamics ...
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jemjemgardner
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11/24/2011
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12:02 AM
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@Marisa_C DIscussion, set perimeters before you experiment with which to eval, blog about it #eltchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/24/2011
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12:02 AM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Self-evaluation is part of the reflective process isnt it? Anything more formal would detract from the process? #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/24/2011
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12:03 AM
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RT @Marisa_C: How do you evaluate what you do? #eltchat > be clear of what yr global aims are measure against them, re-evaluate them
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shaznosel
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11/24/2011
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12:03 AM
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@cerirhiannon #ELtchat As you experiment you develop and anaylise what you've done -the best self evaluation and then re evaluate!
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royparmesan
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11/24/2011
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12:03 AM
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@sandymillin: @royparmesan what's an 'awareness track'? #eltchat < I foreground goals with students to shape learning. Can send u pdf
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theteacherjames
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11/24/2011
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12:03 AM
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@shaznosel Depends on the plan, CELTA taught me to plan for what the Ss will be doing. reverse planning more s centered, as you say #ELTchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/24/2011
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12:03 AM
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TIme for bed for me! Night all!! And thanks! #eltchat
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dalecoulter
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11/24/2011
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12:03 AM
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@AnthonyGaughan which one was it? #eltchat
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dalecoulter
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11/24/2011
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12:03 AM
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@Marisa_C evaluating progress or a lesson? #eltchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/24/2011
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12:04 AM
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@dalecoulter RT @shaznosel: #ELTchat definitely SS friendly and SS centered - may be Lps are a little teach centered if we r honest?!
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Shaunwilden
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11/24/2011
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12:04 AM
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RT @Marisa_C: Sometimes for example it pays to actually sit down & listen to a recording of a class &evaluate or mark the kinds of talk generated #Eltchat
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jemjemgardner
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11/24/2011
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12:04 AM
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RT @AnthonyGaughan: @dalecoulter Love that tweet just gone about LPs being essentially teacher centred. #eltchat ---> Me too.
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Marisa_C
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11/24/2011
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12:04 AM
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Sometimes for example it pays to actually sit down & listen to a recording of a class &evaluate or mark the kinds of talk generated #Eltchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/24/2011
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12:04 AM
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@cerirhiannon experimentation without parameters is noodling. That said, evaluation may be intellectual chimera #ELtchat
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dalecoulter
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11/24/2011
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12:05 AM
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Ideas for evaluating a lesson http://t.co/8drsLLMy #eltchat if I can just get a cheeky blog mention in : )
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Shaunwilden
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11/24/2011
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12:05 AM
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Who'd like to further reflect by writing the summary? #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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11/24/2011
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12:05 AM
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Ahhhh I think people are tired - perhaps we could talk about ways of evaluating on another #ELTchat?
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shaznosel
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11/24/2011
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12:05 AM
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@JoHart #ELTchat hey! FB is no one..could spend a whole lesson reading their fbs - if school allowed it!
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sandymillin
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11/24/2011
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12:05 AM
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This week's #infiniteeltideas is 'The Beatles' http://t.co/HTIZiHAt How would you use the image in class? #eltchat #efl #esl #elt
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Marisa_C
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11/24/2011
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12:06 AM
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Perhaps we could encourage some blog posts abt evaluating and then come back and talk abt it in a fw weeks? #eltchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/24/2011
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12:06 AM
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RT @Marisa_C: Ahhhh I think people are tired - perhaps we could talk about ways of evaluating on another #ELTchat? > yes please!
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Shaunwilden
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11/24/2011
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12:06 AM
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RT @dalecoulter: Ideas for evaluating a lesson http://t.co/8drsLLMy #eltchat if I can just get a cheeky blog mention in : )
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JoshSRound
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11/24/2011
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12:07 AM
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@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Thanks everyone, really enjoyed that, plenty to think about on bike to work tmrw ;-)) #ELTchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/24/2011
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12:07 AM
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RT @Marisa_C: Ahhhh I think people are tired - perhaps we could talk about ways of evaluating on another #ELTchat? > I'm starting 2 ramble..
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esolcourses
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11/24/2011
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12:07 AM
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RT @cerirhiannon RT @Marisa_C Ahhhh I think people are tired - perhaps we could talk about ways of evaluating on another #ELTchat? >thirded!
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shaznosel
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11/24/2011
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12:07 AM
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@theteacherjames #ELTchat true but when you are being assessed you tend to try to impress the tutor - no??
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ElindaGjondedaj
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11/24/2011
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12:07 AM
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RT @dalecoulter: Ideas for evaluating a lesson http://t.co/8drsLLMy #eltchat if I can just get a cheeky blog mention in : )
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theteacherjames
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11/24/2011
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12:08 AM
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@shaznosel Fair point, assessment does change everything, unfortunately. #ELTchat
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dalecoulter
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11/24/2011
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12:08 AM
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@JoshSRound have a nice cycle #eltchat
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shaznosel
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11/24/2011
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12:08 AM
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RT @esolcourses: RT @cerirhiannon RT @Marisa_C Ahhhh I think people are tired - perhaps we could talk about ways of evaluating on another #ELTchat? >thirded!
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Marisa_C
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11/24/2011
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12:09 AM
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@AnthonyGaughan Hey thanks - see you on the next round :-D #ELTchat
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JoshSRound
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11/24/2011
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12:09 AM
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@dalecoulter cheers Dale! #eltchat
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sandymillin
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11/24/2011
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12:09 AM
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RT @dalecoulter: Ideas for evaluating a lesson http://t.co/8drsLLMy #eltchat if I can just get a cheeky blog mention in : )
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/24/2011
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12:09 AM
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Nightie-night, all! Props to @Shaunwilden & @Marisa_C ! #ELTchat
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cerirhiannon
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11/24/2011
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12:10 AM
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RT @LeaSobocan: Thanks to everyone on #ELTChat for great food for thought. Global staffroom FTW! :) > seconded :)
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AnthonyGaughan
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11/24/2011
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12:10 AM
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@Marisa_C Hopefully - may even be able to summarize sometime between next week and Christmas (no promises, mind...) #ELTchat
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LeaSobocan
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11/24/2011
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12:10 AM
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Thanks to everyone on #ELTChat for great food for thought. Global staffroom FTW! :)
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shaznosel
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11/24/2011
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12:10 AM
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@theteacherjames #ELTchat we go into the class with the right intentions- that's what matters! That's why the DELTA exp.assig is great
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reasons4
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11/24/2011
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12:10 AM
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Thanks all ... Late here and Teplice in the morning #eltchat
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shaznosel
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11/24/2011
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12:11 AM
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#Eltchat Good night all ..it's been a long day! Thanks for enlightening it so late in the night!
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Shaunwilden
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11/24/2011
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12:11 AM
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@AnthonyGaughan @Marisa_C DOnt make rash promises she'll hold you to it :-) #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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11/24/2011
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12:11 AM
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Thanks to all for giving us such a great #ELtchat tonight - really enjoyed it! Thanks to my fab co-mod @Shaunwilden :-)
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Shaunwilden
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11/24/2011
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12:12 AM
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@Marisa_C yes but only good things :-) #ELTchat
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dalecoulter
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11/24/2011
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12:12 AM
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RT @Marisa_C: Thanks to all for giving us such a great #ELtchat tonight - really enjoyed it! Thanks to my fa… (cont) http://t.co/IlKUv205
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sandymillin
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11/24/2011
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12:12 AM
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Thanks for really making me think about my reflective practice #eltchat Never feel like I do enough when I'm around you lot!
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