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Using Wikis in ELT

Page history last edited by Marisa Constantinides 12 years, 7 months ago

 

Using Wikis in ELT. How do people use them? Do people organise projects?  What works or doesn't work? How do they ensure participation? 

 

#ELTchat Transcropt on November 09.2011 at 21.00 P.M>

 

 

Shaunwilden

11:01 PM

Ok tiz 9pm we all ready? #ELTchat

dalecoulter

11:02 PM

@esolcourses I'm on board and ready to contribute as much as I can  #eltchat

sandymillin

11:02 PM

RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will all be about Wikis in ELT and #ELTchat - are you all ready to get going? Yes!

LeaSobocan

11:02 PM

@sandymillin my thoughts exactly ;) #ELTChat

vale360

11:02 PM

RT @Shaunwilden: Ok tiz 9pm we all ready? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:02 PM

For the next hour my tweets will all be about Wikis in ELT and #ELTchat - are you all ready to get going?

esolcourses

11:03 PM

@Marisa_C for the next hour I will be lurking and learning, as I don't use Wikis myself - tho I have a basic understanding of them #ELTChat

AlexandraKouk

11:03 PM

I do :-)  #ELTCHAT

DinaDobrou

11:03 PM

Ready to go! #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:03 PM

UP #eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:03 PM

Looks like it's @Marisa_C and me moderating so if you're new and need help, please ask  #ELTchat

cerirhiannon

11:03 PM

RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will all be about Wikis in ELT  #ELTchat - you all ready to get going? >Hi Marisa, ready to go :)

SueAnnan

11:03 PM

RT @Marisa_C: How many of you already use a wiki with your students? Hands up please #ELTchat Me!

vickyloras

11:03 PM

Ready!!!! #ELTChat

Marisa_C

11:03 PM

How many of you already use a wiki with your students? Hands up please #ELTchat

SueAnnan

11:03 PM

So who already uses wikis ? #ELTchat

theteacherjames

11:03 PM

RT @Marisa_C: The #ELTchat podcast is back! (well almost): The #ELTchat podcast is back and it’s looking for contribu... http://t.co/Y25pm7es #eltchat

AlexandraKouk

11:03 PM

RT @sandymillin: RT @Marisa_C: For the next hour my tweets will all be about Wikis in ELT and #ELTchat -are you all ready to get going? Yes!

Marisa_C

11:04 PM

RT @Shaunwilden: Looks like it's @Marisa_C and me moderating so if you're new and need help, please ask  #ELTchat

SueAnnan

11:04 PM

I also have one for my Cert trainees #ELTchat

vale360

11:04 PM

@Shaunwilden #eltchat wikis r v versatile gr8 4 project work, allowing learners to grow virtual space organically without linear rigidity

vickyloras

11:04 PM

@Marisa_C I don't, but have done a course and would love to learn more #ELTChat

ljp2010

11:04 PM

#ELTchat  yes, but not enuff, I'm sure

Marisa_C

11:04 PM

@DinaDobrou  #ELTchat Way to go DIna! :-)

cerirhiannon

11:04 PM

RT @esolcourses: @Marisa_C will be lurking n learning,  don't use Wikis myself - tho I have a basic understanding of them #ELTChat > ditto!

DinaDobrou

11:04 PM

RT @Shaunwilden: Looks like it's @Marisa_C and me moderating so if you're new and need help, please ask  #ELTchat

DinaDobrou

11:04 PM

@Marisa_C I've recently started two: one of YLs and one for my business english class. #ELTchat

cerirhiannon

11:04 PM

#eltchat tentative hand up - building one with a class at the mo

vickyloras

11:05 PM

RT @Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: Looks like it's @Marisa_C and me moderating so if you're new and need help, please ask  #ELTchat

vale24

11:05 PM

@Marisa_C wish i could join y #eltchat - wikis r one of my fav tools :-) enjoy

TheTeeecha

11:05 PM

@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C #eltchat I am the if-you-are-new kid:)) Hello everyone!

ljp2010

11:05 PM

#ELTchat @vale360  "grow virtual space organically".  I love that expression.

DinaDobrou

11:05 PM

@Marisa_C Yup! Sb told me I was late at doing so, and I thought I didn't want to do it later! :P #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:05 PM

Ooops ! #eltchat I meant me and @Shaunwilden  - ask for help if new

Shaunwilden

11:05 PM

RT @vale360: @Shaunwilden #eltchat wikis r v versatile gr8 4 project work, allowing learners to grow virtual space organically without linear rigidity

Marisa_C

11:06 PM

@TheTeeecha Welcome new friend of #eltchat just remember to use the hashtag on all your tweets - using tweetdeck?

jemjemgardner

11:06 PM

I started with them once and then stopped due to lack of interest from studs #eltchat

dalecoulter

11:06 PM

Lurking but might spring a question @theteacherjames  #eltchat

vickyloras

11:06 PM

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat @vale360  "grow virtual space organically".  I love that expression.

SueAnnan

11:06 PM

Which platform do you prefer to use ? #ELTchat

theteacherjames

11:06 PM

Never used them myself. Looks like I'll be mainly lurking this evening... #eltchat

mkofab

11:06 PM

Am I the only one who is not really familiar with it? Could you give me link to get basic idea? #eltchat

esolcourses

11:07 PM

@jemjemgardner  I think whatever platform you use (blogs, wikis, wallwisher) it can be a challenge to get s's to participate #eltchat

ljp2010

11:07 PM

#ELTchat  Have used pbworks & wikispaces

jemjemgardner

11:07 PM

RT @dalecoulter: Hope I'm not veering off in another direction, but, Wiki or moodle? #eltchat  --> Don't even know the diff

theteacherjames

11:07 PM

RT @mkofab: Am I the only one who is not really familiar with it? Could you give me link to get basic idea? #eltchat

dreadnought001

11:07 PM

which online tools do people use for wikis? I like wallwisher wikispaces linoit #eltchat

JBEducation

11:07 PM

RT @Marisa_C: How many of you already use a wiki with your students? Hands up please #ELTchat

SueAnnan

11:07 PM

RT @Shaunwilden: @TheTeeecha Welcome :-) #ELTchat Ditto

Marisa_C

11:07 PM

@vale24 Oh I wish you could do!!! We could learn a lot from toi!!!!! Come on Vale!!! #eltchat

sandymillin

11:07 PM

@mkofab Don't have a link, but if you've ever used wikipedia, you've used a wiki. You can allow students to edit/add pages too #eltchat

dalecoulter

11:07 PM

Hope I'm not veering off in another direction, but, Wiki or moodle? Anyone have a preference? #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:07 PM

@dalecoulter That's how I roll. #eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:07 PM

@TheTeeecha Welcome :-) #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

11:08 PM

@dreadnought001 Wallwisher as a wiki, how do you do that? #ELTchat

mkofab

11:08 PM

@sandymillin Thanks Sandy! I feel better already ;-) #eltchat

cioccas

11:08 PM

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat  Have used pbworks & wikispaces < I've used both of these too, but not wiuth my ELL's yet

DinaDobrou

11:08 PM

RT @vale360: @Shaunwilden #eltchat wikis r v versatile gr8 4 project work, allowing learners to grow virtual space organically without linear rigidity

SueAnnan

11:08 PM

I like PBworks #ELTchat

jemjemgardner

11:08 PM

@esolcourses True, like anything in the classroom! #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:08 PM

RT @sandymillin: @mkofab Don't have a link, but if you've ever used wikipedia, you've used a wiki. You can allow students to edit/add pages too #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:08 PM

@lamaamal5 Remember to use the hashthat ( # ) + ELTchat like so #ELTchat otherwise only me seeing your tweet

cerirhiannon

11:08 PM

RT @esolcourses: @jemjemgardner  I think whatever platform you use (blogs, wikis, wallwisher) it can be a challenge to get s's to participate #eltchat

dalecoulter

11:09 PM

no #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:09 PM

RT @jemjemgardner: @dalecoulter  Good, glad we're both in the dark here! PS - this is my 1st #eltchat! > Welcome :-)

cerirhiannon

11:09 PM

RT @Shaunwilden: @SueAnnan #ELTchat is on pbworks > why pbworks and not wikispaces?  any pluses in particular?

jobethsteel

11:09 PM

@marisa_c How many of you already use a wiki with your students? Hands up please #ELTchat I do.

LeaSobocan

11:09 PM

@jemjemgardner same on my end - no response from Stds #ELTChat

DinaDobrou

11:09 PM

@mkofab http://t.co/GMuFU8VN This is @ShellTerrell & @ozge's wiki. You're not the only one. Recently started myself. #ELTchat

naomishema

11:09 PM

#eltchat - I'll join for a while even though I'm zonked (so late here!). What's the topic?

Shaunwilden

11:09 PM

@SueAnnan #ELTchat is on pbworks

jemjemgardner

11:09 PM

@dalecoulter  Good, glad we're both in the dark here! PS - this is my 1st #eltchat!

Marisa_C

11:09 PM

@SueAnnan  #ELTchat I like pbworks a lot too tho I used wikispaces for an IATEFL project with @sjhannam and it was pretty nifty too

ljp2010

11:09 PM

#ELTchat @cioccas  No, me either.  I've only used them with teachers

SueAnnan

11:10 PM

@Marisa_C  I used wikispaces for a evo project last year  #ELTchat

vickyloras

11:10 PM

RT @DinaDobrou: @mkofab http://t.co/GMuFU8VN This is @ShellTerrell & @ozge's wiki. You're not the only one. Recently started myself. #ELTchat

dreadnought001

11:10 PM

@Shaunwilden maybe I'm stretching def. of wiki. Use wallwisher 4 Ss to summarise learning, b'storm round topic. #eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:10 PM

@cerirhiannon I dont mind either, I just had one on works already #ELTchat

jemjemgardner

11:10 PM

@Marisa_C Thanks! #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:11 PM

So, how do you use wikis #ELTchat I use it with my trainees but I don't myself use it for language teaching - pls share your ideas

ljp2010

11:11 PM

#ELTchat  @dalecoulter  What happened?

cerirhiannon

11:11 PM

RT @dalecoulter: I wanted to use a wiki-style project to give my learners a space to practise writing, get quick feedback, reduce paper #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:11 PM

RT @dalecoulter: I wanted to use a wiki-style project to give my learners a space to practise writing, get quick feedback, reduce paper #eltchat

AlexandraKouk

11:11 PM

RT @DinaDobrou: @mkofab http://t.co/6eXZmQrM This is @ShellTerrell & @ozge's wiki. You're not the only one. Recently started myself #ELTchat

jemjemgardner

11:11 PM

RT @LeaSobocan:  same on my end - no response from Stds #ELTChat --> Did you give up too?

dalecoulter

11:11 PM

I wanted to use a wiki-style project to give my learners a space to practise writing, get quick feedback, reduce paper #eltchat

vbenevolofranca

11:11 PM

Used wikispaces with teachers as part online course-difficult for them as well. #eltchat

DinaDobrou

11:11 PM

RT @esolcourses: @jemjemgardner  I think whatever platform you use (blogs, wikis, wallwisher) it can be a challenge to get s's to participate #eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:11 PM

@dreadnought001 But i guess they have control to edit, add etc so it is wiki like #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:12 PM

@dreadnought001 There are many different types of wikis - these two pbworks and wikispaces the most popular  #eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:12 PM

@dreadnought001 Ease of use? The wikis ones are set up for easy access and editing #ELTchat

cerirhiannon

11:12 PM

setting one up at the moment to support an exam prep class - going to use it to record info, tips, strategies, model answers by Ss #eltchat

DinaDobrou

11:12 PM

@SueAnnan I've only used PBworks but wikispaces looks more fun, at least for YLs. Reminds me of Glogster a bit. #ELTchat

dalecoulter

11:12 PM

@ljp2010 #eltchat haven't tried it yet... it's in the planning stages

jobethsteel

11:12 PM

@cerirhiannon #eltchat Hi Ceri!

mkofab

11:12 PM

RT @dreadnought001: is there a different tween wiki sites (e.g. wikispaces) and poster sites (eg: wallwisher, glogster, linoit)? #eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:12 PM

RT @Marisa_C: So, how do you use wikis #ELTchat I use it with my trainees but I don't myself use it for language teaching - pls share your ideas

dreadnought001

11:12 PM

is there a different tween wiki sites (e.g. wikispaces) and poster sites (eg: wallwisher, glogster, linoit)? #eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:13 PM

@SueAnnan How do you mean which homework? Do you leave choices? #ELTchat

LeaSobocan

11:13 PM

@jemjemgardner sorta kinda. Never say never! I go down fighting. #ELTChat

kalinagoenglish

11:13 PM

RT @jemjemgardner @LeaSobocan:  same on my end 2 - no response from Stds #ELTChat - and don't enjoy general wikis either

cioccas

11:13 PM

RT @SueAnnan: I use a wiki so that my students can choose which homework they want to work on - learner autonomy-ish. #ELTchat <Great!

jemjemgardner

11:13 PM

@naomishema Using Wikis in the class #eltchat

dalecoulter

11:13 PM

@naomishema #eltchat using wikis

SueAnnan

11:13 PM

I use a wiki so that my students can choose which homework they want to work on - learner autonomy-ish. #ELTchat

jemjemgardner

11:13 PM

I tried to use it to increase communication for exam classes/busy studs.  No uptake. #eltchat

dreadnought001

11:13 PM

use wikis to summarise learning, brainstorm topic, list of rules #eltchat

dalecoulter

11:13 PM

@cerirhiannon #eltchat I had the same sort of thing in mind. Good idea for model answrs and strategies

naomishema

11:13 PM

#eltchat - sorry for being slow - what IS the topic tonight?

Fuertesun

11:14 PM

@Marisa_C thanks #ELTCHAT

dmaduliwilliams

11:14 PM

Don't Underestimate Students:  http://t.co/Row4Q6Bv  #edchat #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:14 PM

@Fuertesun  #ELTCHAT Hi  Leahn!!! Welcom - we\re talking wikiwork

jemjemgardner

11:14 PM

@sandymillin HAha, thanks! I think my heart is beating faster than usual... #eltchat

cerirhiannon

11:14 PM

gonna set it up myself first, inputting student texts from class and then coax the students to contribute -carrot/stick fashion ;) #eltchat

dalecoulter

11:14 PM

@kalinagoenglish #eltchat how come? Never used them myself but looking to learn

dreadnought001

11:14 PM

generally found wikis to be more successful than blogs or social media in class. Something very solid and concrete about them! #eltchat

naomishema

11:14 PM

RT @cioccas: RT @SueAnnan: I use a wiki so that my students can choose which homework they want to work on - learner autonomy-ish. #ELTchat <Great!

sandymillin

11:14 PM

@jemjemgardner Welcome to the rush of ideas that is #eltchat!

Fuertesun

11:14 PM

HI #ELTCHAT

Marisa_C

11:14 PM

If you want a mega wikis compare tool, please go to http://t.co/LVHO2D20 #ELTchat Allows you to choose features and end up with wiki u want

jobethsteel

11:14 PM

#eltchat I use wikis to give homework, share vokis, choose readers, update a list of smartphone apps and websites, comment on the CB, etc

Shaunwilden

11:15 PM

@SueAnnan Lovely idea #ELTchat

shaznosel

11:15 PM

#ELTChat Hi all! Wikis are a little out of my league as yet, so I'm happy to learn from all of you tonight!

sandymillin

11:15 PM

@naomishema Don't know if anyone has told you yet... the #ELTchat topic is wikis...how to set up, use etc

Fuertesun

11:15 PM

@kalinagoenglish good point looks very time cnsuiming #eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:15 PM

@kalinagoenglish So what makes a 'good' wiki? #ELTchat

SueAnnan

11:15 PM

@Shaunwilden Yes. ive a selection of materials 2 access. I giv them their own page 2 & the wiki informs me when they use it #ELTchat

jobethsteel

11:15 PM

#eltchat A tip - don't let it be optional or no one will participate!

DinaDobrou

11:15 PM

@dreadnought001 @Shaunwilden Some collaboration can exist on wallwisher but wikis is also about storing/retrieving material. #ELTchat

AlexandraKouk

11:15 PM

upload content 4 Ss 2 read, listen or watch, 2 deliver & collect HW & feedback, & 2 offer Ss online reference tools & useful links #ELTCHAT

Marisa_C

11:15 PM

RT @sandymillin: @jemjemgardner Welcome to the rush of ideas that is #eltchat! > I like that rush of ideas image

dalecoulter

11:15 PM

@cerirhiannon #eltchat nothing like a good carrot stick. What would you do with the texts they contribute?

cerirhiannon

11:15 PM

RT @jobethsteel: #eltchat I use wikis to give homework, share vokis, choose readers, update a list of smartphone apps and websites, comment on the CB, etc

kalinagoenglish

11:15 PM

Not sure that amount of work req'd 4 creating a "good" wiki is really worth it/ that there is enough of a learning experience #eltchat

cioccas

11:15 PM

@jobethsteel That's what I use our Moodle LMS for - easier because it's supported by institution! #ELTchat

naomishema

11:15 PM

#Eltchat so far I use the wiki as a class site. Free and very simple and clear.

jemjemgardner

11:15 PM

@LeaSobocan Yeah, same here, but I was out there alone, so I ended up stopping!  #ELTChat

bethcagnol

11:16 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden  #ELTchat Good opening question - What makes a good wiki?

Marisa_C

11:16 PM

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat  a good place for peer correction of written texts?  Sts put homework on wiki for all to see, not just the teacher

SueAnnan

11:16 PM

@sandymillin  We did stuff in class to start with. Now it's second nature #eltchat

mkofab

11:16 PM

RT @shaznosel: #ELTChat Hi all! Wikis are a little out of my league as yet, so I'm happy to learn from all of you tonight!> idem

jemjemgardner

11:16 PM

RT @Shaunwilden: @SueAnnan Lovely idea #ELTchat Second that!

Marisa_C

11:16 PM

@Shaunwilden  #ELTchat Good opening question - What makes a good wiki?

sandymillin

11:16 PM

@SueAnnan and do your students acutally use thw iki? how much of a push did they need? #eltchat

ljp2010

11:16 PM

#ELTchat  a good place for peer correction of written texts?  Sts put homework on wiki for all to see, not just the teacher

cerirhiannon

11:16 PM

@dalecoulter  #eltchat - we'll work on texts in class I guess (both before and after) playing this one by ear, seeing what works #eltchat

dalecoulter

11:17 PM

@cerirhiannon #eltchat would be interested to hear how it goes

dreadnought001

11:17 PM

Can anyone share actual egs from their class? Would help people not familiar with them...I'm just looking now for some #eltchat

naomishema

11:17 PM

#eltchat - a good wiki is not too cluttered!

vickyloras

11:17 PM

RT @SueAnnan: I use a wiki so that my students can choose which homework they want to work on - learner autonomy-ish. #ELTchat

jemjemgardner

11:17 PM

RT @SueAnnan: @sandymillin  What type of students is that with? #eltchat

cioccas

11:17 PM

RT @jobethsteel: Hi.  Mine doesn't have one so I settle for a wiki at the mo. < And I'd be using a wiki if I didn't have Moodle :) #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:17 PM

RT @SueAnnan: I have a selection of materials 2 access. I giv them their own page 2 & the wiki informs me when they use it #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

11:18 PM

@Marisa_C And we can add to that not too cluttered and good navigation :-) #ELTchat

jemjemgardner

11:18 PM

RT @SueAnnan: @jemjemgardner  mine are young adults > So into using tech anyway?  #eltchat

SBrousseau

11:18 PM

RT @Marisa_C: If you want a mega wikis compare tool, please go to http://t.co/LVHO2D20 #ELTchat Allows you to choose features and end up with wiki u want

DinaDobrou

11:18 PM

RT @Marisa_C: If you want a mega wikis compare tool, please go to http://t.co/LRnQSsYo #ELTchat Allows you t… (cont) http://t.co/O2CvrytS

dalecoulter

11:18 PM

If I were a student, a good Wiki would not be overwhelming in terms of content #eltchat

cioccas

11:18 PM

RT @naomishema: #eltchat - a good wiki is not too cluttered! < And has good navigation

SueAnnan

11:18 PM

@jemjemgardner  mine are young adults #eltchat

jemjemgardner

11:18 PM

RT @naomishema: #eltchat - a good wiki is not too cluttered! --> Sounds lke a good rule!

Marisa_C

11:18 PM

Looks like @SueAnnan set out first criterion - Student Accessibility and Choice (may be that's two? ) :-) #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

11:18 PM

RT @dreadnought001: Can anyone share actual egs from their class? Would help people not familiar with them...I'm just looking now for some #eltchat

sandymillin

11:18 PM

RT @Marisa_C: If you want a mega wikis compare tool, please go to http://t.co/LVHO2D20 #ELTchat Allows you to choose features and end up with wiki u want

Shaunwilden

11:19 PM

@sandymillin @jobethsteel Add it as part of assessment? #ELTchat

bethcagnol

11:19 PM

Can I ask a really dumb question: Would Edmodo qualify as a Wiki subgroup? My students have been contributing which is why I ask. #ELTCHAT

Marisa_C

11:19 PM

RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C And we can add to that not too cluttered and good navigation :-) #ELTchat > Yes; Ss not confused - Make an INDEX?

SueAnnan

11:19 PM

@Shaunwilden  the navigation on mine is really simple #ELTchat

shaznosel

11:19 PM

RT @vbenevolofranca: @DinaDobrou Agree there is skills training involved & with our use-collective writing- reluctance to work on others' texts #eltchat

vbenevolofranca

11:19 PM

@DinaDobrou Agree there is skills training involved & with our use-collective writing- reluctance to work on others' texts #eltchat

Fuertesun

11:19 PM

RT @Marisa_C: The WikiMatrix http://t.co/LVHO2D20  is truly awesome - I am retweeting myself I like it so much :-D #eltchat

dalecoulter

11:19 PM

#eltchat less is more @shaznosel

sandymillin

11:19 PM

@jobethsteel but if even if it's not optional, how do you MAKE students participate? #eltchat

shaznosel

11:19 PM

@dalecoulter  #eltchat yes ..easy to understand and so you are motivated to use it

SueAnnan

11:19 PM

@jemjemgardner  not necessarily #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:19 PM

The WikiMatrix http://t.co/LVHO2D20  is truly awesome - I am retweeting myself I like it so much :-D #eltchat

esra_simsek_

11:19 PM

I used it to motivate ss. a platform that they can see their presentation records and photos, having the chance to comment on them #ELTchat

SueAnnan

11:19 PM

@Marisa_C  choice makes a big difference to how they view the wiki #ELTchat

DinaDobrou

11:20 PM

RT @jobethsteel: #eltchat A tip - don't let it be optional or no one will participate! >True!

cerirhiannon

11:20 PM

@dalecoulter  will let u know!  #eltchat ... early days yet!  ;)

harrisonmike

11:20 PM

@Marisa_C I wonder if people who created Git-wiki know the connotations of that word!! #eltchat

sandymillin

11:20 PM

RT @dalecoulter: If I were a student, a good Wiki would not be overwhelming in terms of content #eltchat

cioccas

11:20 PM

@sandymillin @jobethsteel The ones I've seen used for project work (not ESL tho) use assessment to 'encourage' participations #ELTchat

jobethsteel

11:20 PM

RT @cioccas: RT @jobethsteel: Hi.  Mine doesn't have one so I settle for a wiki at the mo. < And I'd be using a wiki if I didn't have Moodle :) #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

11:21 PM

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat  I imagine you all train ur sts to use them in class, not just assume they're young & know how to use them...

DinaDobrou

11:21 PM

@Fuertesun @kalinagoenglish What if we create wikis "per level" instead of "per class"? #ELTchat

bethcagnol

11:21 PM

RT @harrisonmike: Tweet the goods! RT @Marisa_C: The WikiMatrix http://t.co/Q1RISl0b  is truly awesome - I am retweeting myself I like it so much :-D #eltchat

sandymillin

11:21 PM

@bethcagnol I was wondering aout Edmodo too...I use that with my students all the time. feel like wiki would just be duplicate #eltchat

ljp2010

11:21 PM

#ELTchat  I imagine you all train ur sts to use them in class, not just assume they're young & know how to use them...

Marisa_C

11:21 PM

RT @DinaDobrou: RT @jobethsteel: #eltchat A tip - don't let it be optional or no one will participate! >True of EVERY type of Self Access

jobethsteel

11:21 PM

RT @jobethsteel: Hi. Mine doesn't have one  And I'd be using a wiki if I didn't have Moodle :) #ELTchat  Reassuring.  Thanks! @cioccas

esra_simsek_

11:21 PM

ss desire to share without feeling critisized #ELTchat

harrisonmike

11:21 PM

Tweet the goods! RT @Marisa_C: The WikiMatrix http://t.co/Q1RISl0b  is truly awesome - I am retweeting myself I like it so much :-D #eltchat

mattledding

11:21 PM

RT @dreadnought001: Can anyone share actual egs from their class? Would help people not familiar with them...I'm just looking now for some #eltchat

SueAnnan

11:21 PM

RT @DinaDobrou: RT @jobethsteel: #eltchat A tip - don't let it be optional or no one will participate! >True!

Shaunwilden

11:22 PM

RT @SueAnnan: It's great for saving paper too ;-)#ELTchat

bethcagnol

11:22 PM

@sandymillin Yeah, my thoughts exactly. They happily scan their notes and upload them to Edmodo to help me and each other. #ELTCHAT

ljp2010

11:22 PM

#ELTchat @SueAnnan  any particular resistance?  comments in general?

sandymillin

11:22 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat  I imagine you  train sts to use them in class... > training imp w any ss

Shaunwilden

11:22 PM

@sandymillin @bethcagnol  I see the principle as the same, similar to the moodle or wiki idea that was mentioned earlier #ELTchat

jemjemgardner

11:22 PM

RT @Marisa_C: RT @DinaDobrou: RT @jobethsteel: #eltchat How do you make it compulsory though?

TheTeeecha

11:22 PM

RT @DinaDobrou: @Fuertesun @kalinagoenglish What if we create wikis "per level" instead of "per class"? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:22 PM

@harrisonmike te he he haven't seen that one you intrigue me - reminds me of a windows firm in greece calles Alousystem #eltchat

embracediversiT

11:22 PM

RT @colorincolorado: What Teachers Can Learn from English-Language Learners: http://t.co/9wG2Z5ZA (via @educationweek) #edchat #ellchat #eltchat #ESL #ELL

shaznosel

11:22 PM

@Marisa_C  #eltchat You mean the use if it is optional??

cerirhiannon

11:22 PM

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat  I imagine you  train sts to use them in class... > training imp w any ss

Fuertesun

11:22 PM

@DinaDobrou I suppose that would cut dwn on the tch wrkld #ELTchat

SueAnnan

11:22 PM

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat  I imagine you all train ur sts to use them in class, not just assume they're young & know how to use them... yes sure

bethcagnol

11:22 PM

@SueAnnan @DinaDobrou @jobethsteel Good point on not letting it be optional.  #ELTCHAT

iHiND82

11:23 PM

hi #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:23 PM

But Ss should have options within the non-optional :-D #ELTchat  To fit different levels and needs?

harrisonmike

11:23 PM

Done in, good night everyone!! Have a fun #eltchat all =)

jemjemgardner

11:23 PM

RT @dalecoulter: @Shaunwilden I second that. Also good for teachers that lose paper!  #eltchat Or forget paper. ..

dalecoulter

11:23 PM

@Shaunwilden I second that. Also good for teachers that lose paper!  #eltchat

jobethsteel

11:23 PM

RT @Shaunwilden: RT @SueAnnan: It's great for saving paper too ;-)#ELTchat

jemjemgardner

11:23 PM

RT @Shaunwilden: RT @SueAnnan: It's great for saving paper too ;-)#ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:23 PM

So Wiki word intergated into the curriculum and not optional #ELTchat

DinaDobrou

11:23 PM

RT @naomishema: #eltchat - a good wiki is not too cluttered! > A very important point, there!

vbenevolofranca

11:23 PM

RT @SueAnnan: RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat  I imagine you all train ur sts to use them in class, not just assume they're young & know how to use them... yes sure

jobethsteel

11:23 PM

@ljp2010 #eltchat I train sts if I have the tech in classroom.  If not, it's tough!

cioccas

11:24 PM

RT @Marisa_C: So Wiki word intergated into the curriculum and not optional #ELTchat < Not in my context, it'd need to be optional

Fuertesun

11:24 PM

@naomishema Hi isn't that so much work for u? #eltchat

DinaDobrou

11:24 PM

RT @esra_simsek_: I used it to motivate ss. a platform that they can see their presentation records and photos, having the chance to comment on them #ELTchat

iHiND82

11:24 PM

RT @Marisa_C: But Ss should have options within the non-optional :-D #ELTchat  To fit different levels and needs?

DinaDobrou

11:24 PM

@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Maybe some of the content could be optional under "Autonomous Learning" and some under "Assignments"? #ELTchat

SueAnnan

11:24 PM

@ljp2010  No problems or resistance. As new students join the class, the others show them how to use the wiki #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

11:24 PM

@Marisa_C Agreed the sooner its seen as 'part of' not 'an optional extra' the better #ELTchat

jemjemgardner

11:24 PM

@harrisonmike Night! #eltchat

naomishema

11:24 PM

#eltchat - instead of wikis by level U can have different colored activites on  same page. I have 4 different levels for a video on 1 page

SueAnnan

11:25 PM

@ljp2010  video clips to comment on. Reading comprehensions. Podcasts as catalyst for own writing... #ELTchat

naomishema

11:25 PM

@Fuertesun #eltchat - I teach different levels , easier to adapt the same thing for different levels & all kids at least watch same video

Shaunwilden

11:25 PM

@cioccas Why's that? #ELTchat

jemjemgardner

11:25 PM

RT @cioccas: RT @Marisa_C:  #ELTchat < Not in my context, it'd need to be optional --> Same ehre.

Marisa_C

11:25 PM

I am still looking for the ideal wiki tho which has an inbuilt Discussion Forum - wikispaces is better  here but 1 on every page? #ELTchat

shaznosel

11:25 PM

RT @DinaDobrou: @SueAnnan @Marisa_C Maybe some of the content could be optional under "Autonomous Learning" and some under "Assignments"? #ELTchat

ljp2010

11:25 PM

#ELTchat @SueAnnan Like it.  And what kinds of tasks/activities?

SueAnnan

11:26 PM

RT @cioccas: @Shaunwilden Working with new arrival migrants & refugees in a part-time class - not everyone has tech and/or time #ELTchat OK

Marisa_C

11:26 PM

Games pages are usually popular - put all your language games in there #ELTchat

bethcagnol

11:26 PM

@dalecoulter @Shaunwilden Re: paper: also go for teachers with bad backs and shoulders. No more lugging paper around. #ELTCHAT

Fuertesun

11:26 PM

RT @cioccas: @Shaunwilden Working with new arrival migrants & refugees in a part-time class - not everyone has tech and/or time #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:26 PM

@shaznosel @DinaDobrou  Good idea to have options and musts - I think I would include Games pages if I were to create one  #ELTchat

cioccas

11:26 PM

@Shaunwilden Working with new arrival migrants & refugees in a part-time class - not everyone has tech and/or time #ELTchat

jobethsteel

11:26 PM

RT @Marisa_C: But Ss should have options within the non-optional :-D #ELTchat  To fit different levels and needs?

DinaDobrou

11:26 PM

@jobethsteel @ljp2010 Yeah, if tech is available you demonstrate, if not you preach! lol #ELTchat

iHiND82

11:26 PM

RT @DinaDobrou: RT @naomishema: #eltchat - a good wiki is not too cluttered! > A very important point, there!

iHiND82

11:27 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Games pages are usually popular - put all your language games in there #ELTchat

cioccas

11:27 PM

@SueAnnan @Shaunwilden ... and they're all working full-time too, sometimes 2 jobs! #ELTchat

cerirhiannon

11:27 PM

@bethcagnol @dalecoulter @Shaunwilden  #eltchat love the no paper aspect of it .. and also the one stop factor - a kind of retrospective CB

DinaDobrou

11:27 PM

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat @SueAnnan Like it.  And what kinds of tasks/activities?

shaznosel

11:27 PM

@Marisa_C  #ELTchat if no games etc what is the motivation....that's why I m confused with the discussion on options??

LeaSobocan

11:27 PM

@jemjemgardner @cioccas @Marisa_C Language school teacher here, so no go w/ compulsory. Cd make it part of end-of-term assessment? #ELTChat

SueAnnan

11:27 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Games pages are usually popular - put all your language games in there #ELTchat good idea

naomishema

11:27 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Games pages are usually popular - put all your language games in there #ELTchat  > 0h yes!!!

DinaDobrou

11:27 PM

@iHiND82 Hello and welcome! #ELTchat

iHiND82

11:28 PM

@DinaDobrou thank u dear ! #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:28 PM

@shaunwilden #eltchat - a good wiki = efficient (easy to access, navigate & use); effective (reaches the learning goal) + rich content

cerirhiannon

11:28 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @LeaSobocan It depends how you want to use it - if Ss have own page cd make own Portfolios for end of term assessment  #ELTChat

Marisa_C

11:28 PM

@LeaSobocan It depends how you want to use it - if Ss have own page cd make own Portfolios for end of term assessment  #ELTChat

jobethsteel

11:28 PM

@Marisa_C am still looking for the ideal wiki tho which has an inbuilt Disc For  - oh, I'm desperate for this, how do you get one? #ELTchat

DinaDobrou

11:28 PM

@Fuertesun And we'll also have a place to store good material for future classes. #ELTchat

SueAnnan

11:28 PM

RT @SueAnnan: @ljp2010  video clips to comment on. Reading comprehensions. Podcasts as catalyst for own writing... #ELTchat

Fuertesun

11:28 PM

RT @cioccas: @SueAnnan @Shaunwilden ... and they're all working full-time too, sometimes 2 jobs! #ELTchat - good points

naomishema

11:28 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: @bethcagnol @dalecoulter @Shaunwilden  #eltchat love the no paper aspect of it .. and also the one stop factor - a kind of retrospective CB

Marisa_C

11:29 PM

@jobethsteel Check the mighty Matrix  #ELTchat http://t.co/LVHO2D20

esolcourses

11:29 PM

RT @Marisa_C: I think teachers in a school should create materials sharing wikis - I do this with my co-tutors for CELTA and DELTA  #ELTchat

TheTeeecha

11:29 PM

RT @SueAnnan: RT @SueAnnan: @ljp2010  video clips to comment on. Reading comprehensions. Podcasts as catalyst for own writing... #ELTchat

kalinagoenglish

11:29 PM

@dinadobrou @fuertesun #eltchat it depends on how many students you have and how much work they have to do (re levels)

Marisa_C

11:29 PM

I think teachers in a school should create materials sharing wikis - I do this with my co-tutors for CELTA and DELTA  #ELTchat

AlexandraKouk

11:29 PM

easier to introduce wiki work into an online / blended learning situ than on a purely f2f class?  #ELTCHAT

cioccas

11:29 PM

@Fuertesun @SueAnnan @Shaunwilden BUT, we do wiki-type collaboratiion/comm activities in lab sometimes, little activity outside  #ELTchat

cerirhiannon

11:29 PM

RT @esolcourses: RT @SueAnnan: RT @cioccas: @Shaunwilden Working with new arrival migrants & refugees part-time - not everyone has tech and/or time #ELTchat

DinaDobrou

11:29 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @shaznosel @DinaDobrou  Good idea to have options and musts - I think I would include Games pages if I were to create one  #ELTchat

esolcourses

11:29 PM

RT @SueAnnan: RT @cioccas: @Shaunwilden Working with new arrival migrants & refugees part-time - not everyone has tech and/or time #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:30 PM

You can organise your materials by week by topic by level - whichever way is most convenient #eLtchat

Shaunwilden

11:30 PM

RT @SueAnnan: @kalinagoenglish  re levels- I colour code everything #eltchat

DinaDobrou

11:30 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @LeaSobocan It depends how you want to use it - if Ss have own page cd make own Portfolios for end of term assessment  #ELTChat

jobethsteel

11:30 PM

RT @kalinagoenglish: @dinadobrou @fuertesun #eltchat it depends on how many students you have and how much work they have to do (re levels)

SueAnnan

11:30 PM

@kalinagoenglish  re levels- I colour code everything #eltchat

bethcagnol

11:30 PM

@Marisa_C Yeah, like an internal Wiki for the teachers of that school.  Good idea. #ELTCHAT

mattledding

11:30 PM

RT @Marisa_C: I think teachers in a school should create materials sharing wikis - I do this with my co-tutors for CELTA and DELTA  #ELTchat

DinaDobrou

11:30 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: @bethcagnol @dalecoulter @Shaunwilden  #eltchat love the no paper aspect of it .. and also the one stop factor - a kind of retrospective CB

sandymillin

11:30 PM

RT @naomishema: #eltchat - instead of wikis by level U can have different colored activites on  same page. I have 4 different levels for a video on 1 page

shaznosel

11:30 PM

@ljp2010  #ELTchat for me , a wiki would give me experiences/opportunities not available in the classroom..more  autonomous/motivating

theteacherjames

11:30 PM

RT @Marisa_C: I think teachers in a school should create materials sharing wikis - I do this with my co-tutors for CELTA and DELTA  #ELTchat

bethcagnol

11:30 PM

RT @Marisa_C: I think teachers in a school should create materials sharing wikis - I do this with my co-tutors for CELTA and DELTA  #ELTchat

SueAnnan

11:30 PM

RT @Marisa_C: I think teachers in a skool shld create materials sharing wikis - I do ths w/ my co-tutors 4 CELTA & DELTA #ELTchat Me too

Shaunwilden

11:31 PM

@esolcourses @SueAnnan @cioccas  Yes i appreciate there are factors that have to make it optional, as always depends on context #ELTchat

Fuertesun

11:31 PM

@kalinagoenglish Good point... is it really necessary? Ok looks pretty but as a student I  still don't have time to use it #eltchat

SueAnnan

11:31 PM

RT @Marisa_C: You can organise your materials by week by topic by level - whichever way is most convenient #eLtchat

ljp2010

11:31 PM

@kalinagoenglish   #ELTchat initially learning useful a useful tech skill perhaps, language to follow

cerirhiannon

11:31 PM

RT @AlexandraKouk: easier  with online / blended learning than purely f2f class?  #ELTCHAT > can help extend f2f beyond the classroom

cioccas

11:31 PM

I use Moodle now, but I prefer wikis over LMS because learners will continue to have access after they stop being 'students' #ELTchat

iHiND82

11:31 PM

RT @DinaDobrou: @Fuertesun @kalinagoenglish What if we create wikis "per level" instead of "per class"? #ELTchat

jobethsteel

11:31 PM

@Marisa_C Thank you! #eltchat

shaznosel

11:31 PM

RT @SueAnnan: RT @cioccas: @Shaunwilden Working with new arrival migrants & refugees in a part-time class - not everyone has tech and/or time #ELTchat OK

naomishema

11:31 PM

RT @Marisa_C: You can organise your materials by week by topic by level - whichever way is most convenient #eLtchat  > or both!

SueAnnan

11:31 PM

RT @shaznosel: @ljp2010  #ELTchat for me , a wiki would give me experiences/opportunities not available in th… (cont) http://t.co/DYYnzURC

dreadnought001

11:31 PM

eg of wiki page from my class (only screenshot cos site private) abt Mike Leigh this one used Google sites http://t.co/FjjsLGNF #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:31 PM

@dinadobrou @fuertesun #eltchat the question is "is the amount of work (typing, embedding, cr8ng pages) learning tech or learning English?

ljp2010

11:31 PM

#ELTchat @shaznosel  Yes, like the idea of letting sts choose the content = motivation

DinaDobrou

11:31 PM

RT @AlexandraKouk: easier to introduce wiki work into an online / blended learning situ than on a purely f2f class?  #ELTCHAT

Marisa_C

11:32 PM

@kalinagoenglish I think all this appeals to some but not all Ss - @AlexandraKouk  cd tell u more -she maintains our Student wikis #eltchat

iHiND82

11:32 PM

@DinaDobrou @fuertesun @kalinagoenglish it would be more effective for learners i think ! #eltchat

sandymillin

11:32 PM

RT @Marisa_C: I think teachers in a school should create materials sharing wikis - I do this with my co-tutors for CELTA and DELTA  #ELTchat

bethcagnol

11:32 PM

Can only stay for half of the #ELTCHAT tonight folks.  Early day tomorrow. Gros Bisous to you all!

mattledding

11:32 PM

RT @kalinagoenglish: @dinadobrou @fuertesun #eltchat the question is "is the amount of work (typing, embedding, cr8ng pages) learning tech or learning English?

kalinagoenglish

11:32 PM

A "blog" space like Posterous is a much better space than a wiki, less hassle, less tech know-how, same ability to store material #eltchat

mattledding

11:32 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @jobethsteel Check the mighty Matrix  #ELTchat http://t.co/LVHO2D20

LeaSobocan

11:32 PM

@Marisa_C smashing idea there. Also + on learner autonomy. Have 2 think about presenting this to employer tho.cd b seen as copout #ELTChat

Marisa_C

11:33 PM

@LeaSobocan  most wikis u could have on a free plan too so no cost to employer #ELTChat

shaznosel

11:33 PM

@DinaDobrou  #ELTchat That's a true time -saving god send!

SueAnnan

11:33 PM

@bethcagnol  Bye Honey #ELTCHAT

Shaunwilden

11:33 PM

@kalinagoenglish But not as easy to say do tasks like collaborative writing #ELTchat

sandymillin

11:33 PM

RT @shaznosel: @ljp2010  #ELTchat for me , a wiki would give me experiences/opportunities not available in the classroom..more  autonomous/motivating

DinaDobrou

11:33 PM

@AlexandraKouk I think so. Blended learning presupposes the use of an online place to collaborate other than the online classroom. #ELTchat

DinaDobrou

11:34 PM

@kalinagoenglish @fuertesun A valid point! Balance is key. some tech training needed but focus shld be on language. #ELTchat

jemjemgardner

11:34 PM

RT @LeaSobocan: @jemjemgardner @cioccas @Marisa_C No terms or assessment in my teaching context.  Could use it in Celta though... #ELTChat

iHiND82

11:34 PM

what do Ss say or think about Wikis ? Do they like them or find them waste of time ? #eltchat

sandymillin

11:34 PM

RT @cioccas: I prefer wikis over LMS because learners will continue to have access after stop being 'students' #ELTchat < y I like Edmodo

ljp2010

11:34 PM

#ELTchat  The idea of sts presenting a portfolio of work at the end of a course seems far superior to jumping exam hoops.

kalinagoenglish

11:34 PM

@ljp2010 #eltchat not convinced (obviously :-) 4 need for students to learn this "tech-skill" over Eng reckon easier = GoogleDocs & blogs

Marisa_C

11:34 PM

One very nice way of helping students with wikis is to create some short screencasts to help them find their way #ELTchat

iHiND82

11:34 PM

RT @kalinagoenglish: A "blog" space like Posterous is a much better space than a wiki, less hassle, less tech know-how, same ability to store material #eltchat

sandymillin

11:35 PM

RT @kalinagoenglish: @ljp2010 #eltchat not convinced (obviously :-) 4 need for students to learn this "tech-skill" over Eng reckon easier = GoogleDocs & blogs

DinaDobrou

11:35 PM

RT @shaznosel: @ljp2010  #ELTchat for me , a wiki would give me experiences/opportunities not available in the classroom..more  autonomous/motivating

iHiND82

11:35 PM

RT @Marisa_C: One very nice way of helping students with wikis is to create some short screencasts to help them find their way #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

11:35 PM

@Marisa_C @iHiND82 @kalinagoenglish  Yes it can, I love posterous so easy to use and set up #ELTchat

DinaDobrou

11:35 PM

RT @SueAnnan: RT @Marisa_C: I think teachers in a skool shld create materials sharing wikis - I do ths w/ my co-tutors 4 CELTA & DELTA #ELTchat Me too

ljp2010

11:35 PM

#ELTchat @kalinagoenglish And what's your sts' response to these been?

kalinagoenglish

11:35 PM

@shaunwilden GoogleDocs much, much, much better!  Colours, different versions, collaborative and real-time :) #eltchat

shaznosel

11:35 PM

@Marisa_C  #ELTchat sharing is what learning is all about, so great for ss to be able to do this.

Marisa_C

11:35 PM

@iHiND82 @kalinagoenglish  I don't know so much abt posterous - can it be private like a wiki Karenne?  #eltchat

AlexandraKouk

11:35 PM

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat  The idea of sts presenting a portfolio of work at the end of a course seems far superior to jumping exam hoops.> true

Shaunwilden

11:35 PM

@kalinagoenglish @ljp2010  It's a good point Karenne, people have t o chose what works best for them and their sts #ELTchat

kalinagoenglish

11:36 PM

RT @shaunwilden: @Marisa_C @iHiND82 @kalinagoenglish  love posterous so easy to use and set up #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:36 PM

@jemjemgardner i use it with celta and it's good cos they re also learning a bit about edtech - can use with own ss later #ELTChat

dreadnought001

11:36 PM

my students aren't very techy but they find wikis easier to manage than blogs, google docs, VLEs I find. Not much training needed #eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:36 PM

@kalinagoenglish Am not disagreeing just fueling debate :-) #ELTchat

sandymillin

11:36 PM

RT @iHiND82: what do Ss say or think about Wikis ? Do they like them or find them waste of time ? #eltchat

cerirhiannon

11:37 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @kalinagoenglish I have one pitiful pre-posterous blog and i have not liked it from the start - no can say why  #eltchat

naomishema

11:37 PM

#eltchat - good night - soo late and tomorrow is another workday!

DinaDobrou

11:37 PM

RT @Marisa_C: You can organise your materials by week by topic by level - whichever way is most convenient #eLtchat

Marisa_C

11:37 PM

@kalinagoenglish I have one pitiful pre-posterous blog and i have not liked it from the start - no can say why  #eltchat

SueAnnan

11:37 PM

I make my current students writers and then they can contribute. When they leave they become readers instead #ELTchat

kalinagoenglish

11:37 PM

@ljp2010 wasn't good #eltchat that's why I thought I'd chip in, response was pretty close to zero with me doing all - moved to Ning, worked!

DinaDobrou

11:37 PM

RT @SueAnnan: @kalinagoenglish  re levels- I colour code everything #eltchat > Meaning the choice of background colour in the wiki?

LeaSobocan

11:37 PM

@Marisa_C i know, it's the absence of me making test that could present the problem, not $$$ maybe part of assessment instead #ELTChat

AlexandraKouk

11:37 PM

RT @dreadnought001: my students arnt vry techy but they find wikis easier ... Not much training needed #eltchat ?> same here :-)

DinaDobrou

11:38 PM

@shaznosel You can say that again! Wish I'd discovered it and spent time on it earlier! #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

11:38 PM

@Marisa_C I moved  1 of my blogs to posterous &havent looked back, used it with some teachers a couple of weeks ago they loved it #ELTchat

jobethsteel

11:38 PM

@Marisa_C very nice way of helping students with wikis is to create some short screencasts  #ELTchat Am about to do this myself!

ljp2010

11:38 PM

#ELTchat @kalinagoenglish Will give it a try :)

AlexandraKouk

11:38 PM

@DinaDobrou also, Ss uaually love it when they have their own presonal page :-) #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:38 PM

@kalinagoenglish Which brings us to our next topic -  once we know what and how we got to get the who in there active!!!!!  #eltchat

Fuertesun

11:38 PM

@naomishema night #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:38 PM

@ljp2010 #eltchat - am not teaching at the moment (just moved) but used Posterous over summer w/ teacher-trainees, brilliant

jemjemgardner

11:38 PM

#eltchat Thanks! And night, it's too late for me! Have fun!

DinaDobrou

11:38 PM

RT @cioccas: I use Moodle now, but I prefer wikis over LMS because learners will continue to have access after they stop being 'students' #ELTchat

LeaSobocan

11:38 PM

@ljp2010 agreed. convince employer, another story ;) #ELTChat

iHiND82

11:39 PM

@SueAnnan u mean they read what they have wrote in class after leaving ? #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:39 PM

anyone want to work with me on my perposterous discourse blog? #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

11:39 PM

@e_d_driscoll Using wikis in ELT #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:39 PM

@cerirhiannon I do - it was going to be a discourse blog for my deltas - yikes  #eltchat

SueAnnan

11:39 PM

@DinaDobrou  I colour the sections on the front page so they can find the correct level easily #eltchat

esra_simsek_

11:39 PM

@shaznosel @ljp2010 i totally agree #ELTchat

dreadnought001

11:39 PM

I find Posterous oddly cumbersome, my students too, not sure why :-( #eltchat

e_d_driscoll

11:39 PM

#eltchat What is the topic today?

missnoor28

11:39 PM

RT @Marisa_C: One very nice way of helping students with wikis is to create some short screencasts to help them find their way #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:40 PM

@Shaunwilden May be we should have a skype chat about this - remove my mental block!!!  #ELTchat

sandymillin

11:40 PM

@e_d_driscoll how to use wikis and what to use them for #eltchat

SueAnnan

11:40 PM

@iHiND82  they can continue to develop from the new students' input too #eltchat

shaznosel

11:40 PM

@missnoor28  #ELTchat so beneficial and helps those who want to join in..

DinaDobrou

11:41 PM

RT @AlexandraKouk: @DinaDobrou also, Ss uaually love it when they have their own presonal page :-) #ELTchat

shaznosel

11:41 PM

RT @kalinagoenglish: @marisa_c #eltchat I think "the problem w/ getting ppl to b active" is the problem, the desire must come from their understanding of purpose

kalinagoenglish

11:41 PM

@marisa_c #eltchat also must come from their ability to use a tool (any tool, wikis etc) without a big learning curve

DinaDobrou

11:41 PM

@SueAnnan So your wiki is like a hub? Of other wikis? Or content? #ELTchat

cerirhiannon

11:41 PM

RT @kalinagoenglish: @marisa_c #eltchat I think "the problem w/ getting ppl to b active" is the problem, the desire must come from their understanding of purpose

SueAnnan

11:41 PM

@DinaDobrou  content #ELTchat

Nanda_moersid

11:41 PM

RT @Marisa_C: anyone want to work with me on my perposterous discourse blog? #ELTchat

kalinagoenglish

11:41 PM

@marisa_c #eltchat I think "the problem w/ getting ppl to b active" is the problem, the desire must come from their understanding of purpose

shaznosel

11:41 PM

@Marisa_C  #ELTchat did you say discourse????? Ahgggg..

jobethsteel

11:41 PM

#eltchat My students loved posterous last year too.  about to start new ones for this course.

iHiND82

11:42 PM

RT @SueAnnan: @iHiND82  they can continue to develop from the new students' input too #eltchat

cerirhiannon

11:42 PM

RT @Marisa_C: In the absence of an IWB - is take photos of board after brainstorming & Ss put up in wiki - or TP feedback #ELTchat

shaznosel

11:42 PM

@kalinagoenglish  #eltchat Exactly as you said before, they need a purpose to move towards this stage - hey! Don't we all??

kalinagoenglish

11:42 PM

Nice idea! @sueannan: @DinaDobrou  I colour the sections on the front page so they can find the correct level easily #eltchat

DinaDobrou

11:42 PM

RT @Marisa_C: In the absence of an IWB - is take photos of board after brainstorming & Ss put up in wiki - or TP feedback #ELTchat

DinaDobrou

11:42 PM

@AlexandraKouk I should move to that stage soon, I think. :) #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:42 PM

In the absence of an IWB - is take photos of board after brainstorming & Ss put up in wiki - or TP feedback #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

11:43 PM

@shaznosel @Marisa_C Oh come on  what's not to love about discourse  :-) #ELTchat

AlexandraKouk

11:43 PM

@DinaDobrou u can also let the morew tech-minded Ss "decorate" their page as they like #ELTchat

ljp2010

11:43 PM

#ELTchat @Marisa_C I love good boardwork!  Will give this a go!

Marisa_C

11:44 PM

@Shaunwilden it's not the discourse i don't love - its that posterous in which it's sitting  #ELTchat

SueAnnan

11:44 PM

@Shaunwilden discourse? especially with a group of teachers LOL #ELTchat

cerirhiannon

11:44 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @ljp2010 I think Ss love it too - their own or T's handwriting or sth abt it that's personal in the midst of all this edtech  #ELTchat

vickyloras

11:44 PM

@Marisa_C I love that idea - shall pinch it for our college Moodle, if you don't mind! #ELTChat

Marisa_C

11:44 PM

@ljp2010 I think Ss love it too - their own or T's handwriting or sth abt it that's personal in the midst of all this edtech  #ELTchat

vickyloras

11:44 PM

RT @Marisa_C: In the absence of an IWB - is take photos of board after brainstorming & Ss put up in wiki - or TP feedback #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

11:45 PM

@Marisa_C It wasn t you that said aaarghh :-)  #eltchat

jobethsteel

11:45 PM

#eltchat @Marisa_C the absence of an IWB - is take photos of board after brainstorming - I do this too  - also with mini white boards.

SueAnnan

11:45 PM

@cioccas  Bye Lesley #eltchat

shaznosel

11:45 PM

@Shaunwilden  #ELTchat  Love to hate it!! Actually i love it but it's a hard one to discuss..it's like a brainteaser!

Fuertesun

11:45 PM

@cioccas night #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:45 PM

@Shaunwilden I love discourse analysis!! Sas parakalo kyrie Wilden!!!!  #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

11:45 PM

so is the #ELTchat homework to collaborate to make the best example of a wiki for teaching ever, following all the tips in the chat?

cioccas

11:45 PM

Leaving #eltchat quietly via a side door. ^_^ Enjoy the rest of the chat everyone!

ljp2010

11:45 PM

#ELTchat @Marisa_C  Like when sts take photos of WB with mobile.  Definitely :)

Marisa_C

11:46 PM

@Shaunwilden nope - one of me deltas #eltchat

SueAnnan

11:46 PM

@jobethsteel  saw those in action at #TesolFrance  #eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:47 PM

@Marisa_C Aha now deltas - that'd be slightly exophoric referent acting as substitution wouldnt it :-)  #eltchat

SueAnnan

11:47 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden Module 1 exam coming up - all those terms to remember .... Which reminds - wiki also good for glossaries #eltchat

shaznosel

11:47 PM

@Shaunwilden  #eltchat aaarghh to write about it...it's one thing to read on your own and another to explain it to others.I admire you guys!

Marisa_C

11:47 PM

@Shaunwilden Module 1 exam coming up - all those terms to remember .... Which reminds - wiki also good for glossaries #eltchat

iHiND82

11:48 PM

u have changed #eltchat time ??

SueAnnan

11:48 PM

@shaznosel  yes I'll bet it does ;-) #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:48 PM

@Shaunwilden I want it - can I have it pls?  #eltchat

esolcourses

11:48 PM

RT @Shaunwilden: Here is the transcript from the lunchtime #eltchat  http://t.co/0VL5CrYP

DinaDobrou

11:48 PM

Tweetdeck won't allow me to type properly 2nite. Cursor keeps jumping to columns and back again! I'll go off and on again. #ELTchat

shaznosel

11:48 PM

@SueAnnan  #eltchat Have to say Marissa's DELTA wiki keeps us on our toes.

Shaunwilden

11:48 PM

@SueAnnan Yes i have a delta terminology wiki, sadly neglected  #eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:49 PM

Right back to wikis not discourse  - 10 mins left loads of tips so far...... #eltchat

ljp2010

11:49 PM

#ELTchat Bye Ceri

SueAnnan

11:49 PM

@cerirhiannon  speak soon Ceri #eltchat

cerirhiannon

11:49 PM

quietly leaving ...  been great lurking ... thanks everyone .. #eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:49 PM

@Marisa_C Tee hee :-)  #eltchat

SueAnnan

11:49 PM

@iHiND82  the clocks changed in Europe last week #eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:49 PM

@iHiND82 Well the world did by changing it's clocks for winter :-)  #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:49 PM

@Shaunwilden yer adjancency pairs aren't working mate  #eltchat

DinaDobrou

11:50 PM

RT @Marisa_C: How do you organise your wikis those of you who have them ?#eltchat

SueAnnan

11:50 PM

RT @Marisa_C: How do you organise your wikis those of you who have them ?#eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:50 PM

RT @esolcourses: RT @Shaunwilden: Here is the transcript from the lunchtime #eltchat  http://t.co/EF4xfGJW

Fuertesun

11:50 PM

@cerirhiannon night #eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:50 PM

@cerirhiannon See you on the course :-)  #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:50 PM

How do you organise your wikis those of you who have them ?#eltchat

vbenevolofranca

11:50 PM

@Marisa_C Good point the glossaries, this was eg of wiki use with teachers that worked for me.#eltchat

Marisa_C

11:51 PM

RT @AlexandraKouk:  Organising wikis #eltchat > contents section (clearly labelled) & then SS individual pages

iHiND82

11:51 PM

ohh noo here in Kuwait we don't change clocks so it gonna be a little bit late to me :/ #eltchat it's 12:50 am

DinaDobrou

11:51 PM

@AlexandraKouk Sounds cool..! #ELTchat

esolcourses

11:51 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: quietly leaving ...  been great lurking ... thanks everyone .. #eltchat ] same here... see you Ceri, & catch you later

DinaDobrou

11:51 PM

RT @AlexandraKouk: RT @Marisa_C: How do U organise yr wikis those of U who have them ?#eltchat > contents section (clearly labelled) & then SS individual pages

AlexandraKouk

11:51 PM

RT @Marisa_C: How do U organise yr wikis those of U who have them ?#eltchat > contents section (clearly labelled) & then SS individual pages

Marisa_C

11:52 PM

RT @Shaunwilden: RT @SueAnnan: I divide up the front page into coloured squares for lvll. Clicking takes you into the contents  #eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:52 PM

RT @SueAnnan: I divide up the front page into coloured squares for lvll. Clicking takes you into the contents  #eltchat

iHiND82

11:53 PM

RT @AlexandraKouk: RT @Marisa_C: How do U organise yr wikis those of U who have them ?#eltchat > contents section (clearly labelled) & then SS individual pages

SueAnnan

11:53 PM

@DinaDobrou level #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:53 PM

@Shaunwilden  #eltchat I ve done the squares too on our colleagues wikis - works well

DinaDobrou

11:53 PM

@Shaunwilden Into coloured squares for what?? #ELTchat

iHiND82

11:54 PM

RT @Shaunwilden: RT @SueAnnan: I divide up the front page into coloured squares for lvll. Clicking takes you into the contents  #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:54 PM

Can also include a tutorials section on how to use wiki - screencasts or you tuve video tutorials if availlable #eltchat

SueAnnan

11:54 PM

@Shaunwilden  and I forgot it to start with :-( #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

11:54 PM

@SueAnnan @DinaDobrou Sorry sue i edited you badly to add the #ELTchat

AlexandraKouk

11:55 PM

@Marisa_C screencasts on the front page worked for me :-)   #eltchat

DinaDobrou

11:55 PM

@Shaunwilden @SueAnnan haha, thanks! Looks like I'm familiar with chat lingo but not #ELTchat lingo (it looked like 'lol') :D

Shaunwilden

11:56 PM

RT @Marisa_C: I recently made a wiki for our free classes and gave them pages for extra work - so my squares include vocab pron listening etc  #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:56 PM

I recently made a wiki for our free classes and gave them pages for extra work - so my squares include vocab pron listening etc  #eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:56 PM

We're almost at volunteering time ....... ;-) #ELTchat

AlexandraKouk

11:57 PM

@shaznosel that's the idea :-) #eltchat

ljp2010

11:57 PM

#ELTchat  Promise I'll do it next month, Shaun, after end of year fun & games over.

shaznosel

11:57 PM

@AlexandraKouk  #eltchat screncasts essential for us novices..much appreciated and leads to accessibility - no?

AlexandraKouk

11:58 PM

RT @jobethsteel: #eltchat Watch russell stannard's vid on how to use wikis http://t.co/7hySt6cR

Shaunwilden

11:58 PM

@ljp2010 I'll hold you to it but as you have so many posts to get thru in the group tasks,  I'll let you off now #ELTchat

jobethsteel

11:58 PM

#eltchat Watch russell stannard's vid on how to use wikis http://t.co/7hySt6cR

Marisa_C

11:58 PM

One thing I tend to include on trainee wikis is sample assignments - does anyone do this with English students? #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:59 PM

@AlexandraKouk is wonderful with the esthetic effects of her wikis - has taught her Ss to upload/embed Prezis and ppts too  #eltchat

TheTeeecha

11:59 PM

RT @jobethsteel: #eltchat Watch russell stannard's vid on how to use wikis http://t.co/7hySt6cR

DinaDobrou

11:59 PM

RT @Marisa_C: RT @jobethsteel: #eltchat Watch russell stannard's vid on how to use wikis http://www.teachertra… (cont) http://t.co/1aNKk7jQ

shaznosel

11:59 PM

@AlexandraKouk  #eltchat Yes but not everyone realises there is a screen cast so they don't bother trying..that's the problem

Marisa_C

11:59 PM

RT @jobethsteel: #eltchat Watch russell stannard's vid on how to use wikis http://t.co/d5W6Kvo0

shaznosel

12:00 AM

@AlexandraKouk  #eltchat ABSOLUTELY!

Marisa_C

12:00 AM

Wikis are also great to embed sceencasts of feedback on homework #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:00 AM

RT @theteacherjames: Remember: The #ELTchat podcast is back & is looking for volunteers. To get involved DM or email me. http://t.co/JbXNOBj8

theteacherjames

12:00 AM

Remember: The #ELTchat podcast is back & is looking for volunteers. To get involved DM or email me. http://t.co/JbXNOBj8

shaznosel

12:00 AM

@DinaDobrou  #eltchat This guy is a MIRACLE come true for us non-techies!!

DinaDobrou

12:00 AM

A cool business english wiki I used for inspiration! http://t.co/TYOndDc6 #ELTchat

AlexandraKouk

12:00 AM

@shaznosel I know - they have to be on the front page in huge red letters :-))) #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:00 AM

I really enjoyed that #ELTchat lots of useful tips, thanks everyone #ELTchat

Marisa_C

12:01 AM

RT @DinaDobrou: A cool business english wiki I used for inspiration! http://t.co/wmP0GHhW #ELTchat > Nice! Thx

jobethsteel

12:01 AM

#eltchat Must go.  Gotta finish summary of last week's chat!  Thank you! @Marisa_C Ooh!  I do that too Marisa - screencasts of hw!

SueAnnan

12:01 AM

@Marisa_C  would love my training course to do that - would save on paper :-) #eltchat

ljp2010

12:02 AM

#ELTchat Thanks everyone!  Bye for now.

Marisa_C

12:02 AM

RT @AlexandraKouk: @Marisa_C do that all the time with my translation trainees :-) #eltchat > I know you do

AlexandraKouk

12:02 AM

RT @SueAnnan: Thanks, as always must go to our fantastic moderators #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

12:02 AM

If anyone wants to do the summary........#ELTchat

SueAnnan

12:02 AM

Thanks, as always must go to our fantastic moderators #ELTchat

AlexandraKouk

12:02 AM

@Marisa_C do that all the time with my translation trainees :-) #eltchat

Marisa_C

12:03 AM

Cheers everyone and thanks for joining and making this another great #ELTchat

SueAnnan

12:03 AM

@Marisa_C  It really does. Nearly as fast as the weekend :-) #eltchat

Marisa_C

12:03 AM

Is it over? #eltchat Time flies on this chat

DinaDobrou

12:03 AM

RT @AlexandraKouk: RT @SueAnnan: Thanks, as always must go to our fantastic moderators #ELTchat

SueAnnan

12:04 AM

@Marisa_C  but wasn't it worth it? #eltchat

SueAnnan

12:04 AM

@Shaunwilden  sorry. Stretched for time this week #ELTchat

Marisa_C

12:04 AM

RT @theteacherjames: RT @Shaunwilden: If anyone wants to do the summary........#ELTchat

Shaunwilden

12:04 AM

RT @Marisa_C: Cheers everyone and thanks for joining and making this another great #ELTchat

Marisa_C

12:04 AM

@SueAnnan  #eltchat I know - wasn't enough was it

theteacherjames

12:04 AM

RT @Shaunwilden: If anyone wants to do the summary........#ELTchat

sandymillin

12:05 AM

RT @SueAnnan: @Shaunwilden  sorry. Stretched for time this week #ELTchat. Me too...can do sometime in December

Shaunwilden

12:05 AM

@vbenevolofranca Hey Valeria, see you at the weekend :-) #ELTchat

DinaDobrou

12:05 AM

@Marisa_C @theteacherjames @Shaunwilden I could do it, but will work on it round Sunday. Only free time I got I'm afraid. #ELTchat

sandymillin

12:05 AM

RT @theteacherjames: Remember: The #ELTchat podcast is back & is looking for volunteers. To get involved DM or email me. http://t.co/JbXNOBj8

vbenevolofranca

12:05 AM

Thanks for #eltchat today, learnt a gr8 deal more about wiki use & thanks to moderatos @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C

shaznosel

12:05 AM

#ELTchat Thanks for enlightening me on the Wiki  subject and I admire you all for how much work you put into your Wikis. Nite!!

AlexandraKouk

12:06 AM

can do the summary this time :-)  #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

12:06 AM

@DinaDobrou @Marisa_C Sunday is fine, I havent done last weeks yet (oops)  #ELTchat.

Marisa_C

12:06 AM

@SueAnnan sure was! Great weekend - need another fix soon  #eltchat

Shaunwilden

12:07 AM

@AlexandraKouk  @DinaDobrou @Marisa_C  so two people come forward who wants it :-) #ELTchat.

DinaDobrou

12:07 AM

@AlexandraKouk Shall we mudwrestle over it? :P #ELTchat

DinaDobrou

12:08 AM

@AlexandraKouk Wow! Would love to! #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

12:08 AM

@AlexandraKouk @DinaDobrou Oo you could do it as a collaborative task on a wiki :-) #ELTchat.

AlexandraKouk

12:08 AM

@DinaDobrou work together? #ELTchat

DinaDobrou

12:09 AM

@Shaunwilden @AlexandraKouk This is getting better and better! :P #ELTchat

 

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