| username |
time |
status |
| Shaunwilden |
12:03 PM |
Welcome everyone -dogme with situs where formal assessment plays a key role in sts motivation is the fun for the next hour #ELTchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:04 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: So then bring on the dogmatists and I promise to behave #ELTchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:04 PM |
RT @tonygurr: RT @brad5patterson: Just blogged: Standing on our PLN’s shoulders http://t.co/jSqbAefa #eltchat #tesolfr #aplanet |
| juanalejandro26 |
12:04 PM |
I must confess I didn't know what dogme was, and I worked that way once already! #ELTChat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:04 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Welcome everyone -dogme with situs where formal assessment plays a key role in sts motivation is the fun for the next hour #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:04 PM |
@theteacherjames Unless provoked of course ;-) #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:05 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Welcome everyone -dogme with situs where formal assessment plays a key role in sts motivation is the fun for the next hour #ELTchat |
| ljp2010 |
12:05 PM |
#ELTchat Can someone explain the diff. between dogme and "winging it"? |
| theteacherjames |
12:05 PM |
Sorry @AnthonyGaughan can't make this #dogme #eltchat. Any other dogme-ites there? @dalecoulter @harrisonmike @LukeMeddings @thornburyscott |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:05 PM |
RT @barbsaka: What kind of formal assessment are we talking about? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:05 PM |
RT @barbsaka: What kind of formal assessment are we talking about? #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:06 PM |
@ljp2010 Is not using materials synonymous with winging it? #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:06 PM |
@rliberni Great to chat with you again :-))) #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
12:06 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @cerirhiannon Have a great webinar, make sure you tweet the link to it later. #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:06 PM |
@theteacherjames I'm here, tho' will be multi-tasking for part of it as I'm also in a webinar :-) #dogme #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:06 PM |
Hi there everyone sorry a bit late :-( #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:06 PM |
@Shaunwilden I'll see what I can do? #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:06 PM |
RT @barbsaka: What kind of formal assessment are we talking about? #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:06 PM |
RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Can someone explain the diff. between dogme and "winging it"? |
| teflgeek |
12:07 PM |
Morning all - sorry I'm late #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:07 PM |
@ljp2010 Would have thought it is often the opposite of winging it #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:07 PM |
@ljp2010 Straight for the jugular with that question! Dogme teachers don't plan, but they are very prepared. #ELTchat |
| ljp2010 |
12:07 PM |
@PatrickAndrews #ELTchat A good question. No, you can still plan for a material- free class |
| esolcourses |
12:07 PM |
RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Can someone explain the diff. between dogme and "winging it"? ] winging it=unprepared #dogme=prepared/go with the flow |
| Shaunwilden |
12:07 PM |
@ljp2010 Experience? Skill of the teacher? #ELTchat |
| juanalejandro26 |
12:07 PM |
I may say a difference according to what I do when I'm mad at my students! #ELTChat |
| rliberni |
12:07 PM |
RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Can someone explain the diff. between dogme and "winging it"? Great question! |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:08 PM |
RT @bethcagnol: Jumping in here: shouldn't the teacher be prepared to adapt? If sts don't want Dogme then don't do Dogme. #ELTCHAT |
| ljp2010 |
12:08 PM |
#ELTchat @theteacherjames So does that mean it's for the experienced teacher only? |
| bethcagnol |
12:08 PM |
Jumping in here: shouldn't the teacher be prepared to adapt? If sts don't want Dogme then don't do Dogme. #ELTCHAT |
| theteacherjames |
12:08 PM |
@esolcourses Good to see you, I decided to watch the webinar later. #dogme #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:08 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @ljp2010 Experience? Skill of the teacher? #ELTchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:08 PM |
RT @esolcourses: RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Can someone explain the diff. between dogme and "winging it"? ] winging it=unprepared #dogme=prepared/go with the flow |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:09 PM |
@ljp2010 Because it is extra challenging to make use of opportunities #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:09 PM |
RT @esolcourses: RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Can someone explain the diff. between dogme and "winging it"? ] winging it=unprepared #dogme=prepared/go with the flow |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:09 PM |
happily observing #eltchat on dogme and learning a thing or two from the great people there |
| rliberni |
12:09 PM |
@barbsaka @AlexandraKouk me too #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:09 PM |
@ljp2010 Not at all, like pre-service teachers can be trained. See @AnthonyGaughan's work for example. #ELTchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:09 PM |
RT @barbsaka: Still wondering about the contexts where teachers are using dogme and formal assessment. Was there an answer? #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:09 PM |
@ljp2010 a dogme approach works well with my stds who are very advanced and don't fit into any elt 'boxes' #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:09 PM |
Still wondering about the contexts where teachers are using dogme and formal assessment. Was there an answer? #eltchat |
| juanalejandro26 |
12:09 PM |
when I don't feel like teaching, I improvise a class. On the other hand, a dogme class is prepared in order to encourage students #ELTChat |
| ljp2010 |
12:09 PM |
@PatrickAndrews #ELTchat How so? |
| Shaunwilden |
12:09 PM |
RT @bethcagnol: Jumping in here: shouldn't the teacher be prepared to adapt? If sts don't want Dogme then don't do Dogme. #ELTCHAT |
| barbsaka |
12:10 PM |
@teflgeek Perhaps the problem is that dogme approach allows students to go in self-determined direction? #eltchat |
| ljp2010 |
12:10 PM |
#ELTchat okay, sorry Shaun. So formal assessment - achievement tests? Prof tests? |
| esolcourses |
12:10 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden Remember this #ELTchat is about dogme & formal assessment, tho of course we need to make sure everyone understands terms |
| rliberni |
12:10 PM |
RT @PatrickAndrews: @ljp2010 Would have thought it is often the opposite of winging it #eltchat yes as you're more 'exposed' I think |
| analuisalozano |
12:10 PM |
RT @esolcourses: RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Can someone explain the diff. between dogme and "winging it"? ] winging it=unprepared #dogme=prepared |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:10 PM |
RT @teflgeek: Why should there be a problem? If the assessment is a good one does it matter how the students get there? #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:10 PM |
Why should there be a problem? If the assessment is a good one does it matter how the students get there? #eltchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:10 PM |
RT @bethcagnol: Jumping in here: shouldn't the teacher be prepared to adapt? If sts don't want Dogme then don't do Dogme. #ELTCHAT |
| rliberni |
12:10 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @ljp2010 Straight for the jugular with that question! Dogme teachers don't plan, but they are very prepared. #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:10 PM |
Remember this #ELTchat is about dogme and formal assessment, though of course we need to make sure everyone understand what each are |
| rliberni |
12:11 PM |
RT @barbsaka: Still wondering about the contexts where teachers are using dogme and formal assessment. Was there an answer? #eltchat |
| brad5patterson |
12:11 PM |
RT @esolcourses: RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Can someone explain the diff. between dogme and "winging it"? ] winging it=unprepared #dogme=prepared/go with the flow |
| annisaasri3424 |
12:11 PM |
RT @yitzha_sarwono: the thing about dogme in Indonesia; it doesn't really exist unless you're in a small English course with not enough resources! #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:11 PM |
@bethcagnol Nobody said it has to be 100% dogme. Use as when applicable. Sts needs always paramount. #ELTCHAT |
| Shaunwilden |
12:11 PM |
@teflgeek Fair point but I presume the topic setter works in a strictly controlled environ where covering material is key? #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:11 PM |
@teflgeek welcome we're on dogme and looking for definitions #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:11 PM |
@teflgeek Problem is a lot of assessment is not so great #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:11 PM |
RT @barbsaka: Still wondering about the contexts where teachers are using dogme and formal assessment. Was there an answer? #eltchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:11 PM |
the thing about dogme in Indonesia; it doesn't really exist unless you're in a small English course with not enough resources! #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:12 PM |
@teflgeek That makes sense :) #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:12 PM |
Waht are we meaning by 'formal assessment' here - exams? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:12 PM |
@ljp2010 Pleasure. What he does is fascinating, I think. #ELTchat |
| esolcourses |
12:12 PM |
@barbsaka think it probably depends how rigid the means of formal assessment is, and the criteria being assessed. #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:12 PM |
@barbsaka only an issue if the testing specific vocabulary or grammar items. Broader competencies should be developed regardless? #eltchat |
| ljp2010 |
12:12 PM |
#ELTchat @theteacherjames Thx, btw. Am checking out Anthony's work. |
| juanalejandro26 |
12:12 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @bethcagnol Nobody said it has to be 100% dogme. Use as when applicable. Sts needs always paramount. #ELTCHAT |
| barbsaka |
12:13 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: 'Teaching unplugged' has a section about dogme and exam classes, page 94 and 95 if you have the book #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:13 PM |
'Teaching unplugged' has a section about dogme and exam classes, page 94 and 95 if you have the book #ELTchat |
| esolcourses |
12:13 PM |
RT @rliberni: Waht are we meaning by 'formal assessment' here - exams? #eltchat ] not necessarily - could be portfolio based, perhaps? |
| theteacherjames |
12:14 PM |
@yitzha_sarwono The reality is that dogme's influence on the wider world of language learning hasn't really been felt yet. #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:14 PM |
@esolcourses @rliberni Portfolio could be combined with dogme #ELTchat |
| chrisjw133 |
12:14 PM |
#eltchat I saw an activity from "Teaching unplugged" that I thought could be adapted for formal assessments. http://t.co/MCSJuXm3 |
| teflgeek |
12:14 PM |
@Shaunwilden point taken... but in principle (!) ... #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:14 PM |
Materials lk pastpapers, exam prep 4 specific types of test questions have2Bused extensively-how much room does that leave 4 dogme? #ELTCHAT |
| theteacherjames |
12:15 PM |
@nickcherkas Don't forget the #eltchat hashtag! |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:15 PM |
@teflgeek Think it often is #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:15 PM |
RT @teflgeek: @PatrickAndrews so the problem not the teaching method but the testing method? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:15 PM |
RT @nickcherkas: @bethcagnol so do we need to plan when to use dogme in lessons, or just use it when the opportunity arises? #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:15 PM |
@teflgeek not necessarily a problem :-) #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:15 PM |
@teflgeek @barbsaka IME, of the problems with formal assessment is that learners are often tested on a narrow range of skills #ELTChat |
| teflgeek |
12:15 PM |
@PatrickAndrews so the problem not the teaching method but the testing method? #eltchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:16 PM |
@theteacherjames i thought so too,here maybe cause the fear of us teachers to take things for granted & coming in unprepared #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:16 PM |
RT @PatrickAndrews: @esolcourses @rliberni Portfolio could be combined with dogme #ELTchat ] agree. Has worked well for me in the past |
| Shaunwilden |
12:16 PM |
@theteacherjames @nickcherkas @bethcagnol Cant both situations be the case? #ELTchat |
| brad5patterson |
12:16 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @yitzha_sarwono The reality is that dogme's influence on the wider world of language learning hasn't really been felt yet. #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:16 PM |
@PatrickAndrews @esolcourses if portfolio then dogme fits well but if prescribed testing not sure dep on test #eltchat |
| ljp2010 |
12:17 PM |
#ELTchat @theteacherjames Hasn't dogme always been there in those moments of "Teach the sts not the plan"? |
| theteacherjames |
12:17 PM |
@nickcherkas There are some things we teach in a language classroom that are not lang. i.e test taking skills - Flexibility is key #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:17 PM |
@esolcourses so the need is more to develop teacher / management test writing skills? #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:17 PM |
@rliberni @esolcourses Would agree #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:18 PM |
RT @PatrickAndrews: @theteacherjames @nickcherkas Yes and need to get used to kinds of tasks involved in the test #ELTchat |
| ljp2010 |
12:18 PM |
#ELTchat @rliberni True. some teachers think coursebook = the course |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:18 PM |
@theteacherjames @nickcherkas Yes and need to get used to kinds of tasks involved in the test #ELTchat |
| nickcherkas |
12:18 PM |
@Shaunwilden @theteacherjames @bethcagnol I think so - some days dogme just doesn't seem to work, & some when it does #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:18 PM |
@yitzha_sarwono dogme tchrs are always prepared it's maybe giving up the prop of a txtbook imo & starting with std needs/wants #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
12:18 PM |
You can also test (review) your sts based on previous Dogme-guided lessons. #ELTCHAT |
| reditho |
12:18 PM |
Heading for the webinar . Interesting #eltchat today sorry I can't stay... lurking a bit. |
| Shaunwilden |
12:18 PM |
RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat @theteacherjames Hasn't dogme always been there in those moments of "Teach the sts not the plan"? - Yep :-) |
| esolcourses |
12:18 PM |
@rliberni @PatrickAndrews agree... prescribed testing is a very "one-size-fits" all means of assessment. Hard to square the two #ELTChat |
| rliberni |
12:19 PM |
RT @esolcourses: @teflgeek actually, I'd argue for the opposite, i.e. there is a need for more learner-centred methods of assessment & less rigidity #ELTChat |
| esolcourses |
12:19 PM |
@teflgeek actually, I'd argue for the opposite, i.e. there is a need for more learner-centred methods of assessment & less rigidity #ELTChat |
| bethcagnol |
12:19 PM |
@nickcherkas @theteacherjames Planning for Dogme? I wouldn't, in my opinion. Expecting it? Yes. #ELTCHAT |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:19 PM |
@ljp2010 @theteacherjames Yes, think so. I think that Allwright once wrote about making use of learning opportunities #ELTchat |
| juanalejandro26 |
12:19 PM |
RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat @rliberni True. some teachers think coursebook = the course |
| theteacherjames |
12:19 PM |
@Shaunwilden @ljp2010 Nobody claimed it was new. What they did was formalise it, give it a framework & validate it as an approach. #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
12:20 PM |
@esolcourses OK, but surely that depends on the purpose of your testing? #eltchat |
| brad5patterson |
12:20 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat @theteacherjames Hasn't dogme always been there in those moments of "Teach the sts not the plan"? - Yep :-) |
| barbsaka |
12:20 PM |
@Shaunwilden Really good question. #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
12:20 PM |
I also feel the sts should know right from the beginning that you might go Dogme from time to time. #ELTCHAT |
| rliberni |
12:20 PM |
@esolcourses I agree but then we come up against the commercial world and that is like moving a mountain :-) #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:20 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: #ELTchat Does the fact the most schools dont actually test properly make dogme harder to rec… (cont) http://t.co/Z2EY3txn |
| esolcourses |
12:20 PM |
@teflgeek ...though of course, I would say that, being a #dogmeist ;-) #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:20 PM |
#ELTchat Does the fact the most schools dont actually test properly make dogme harder to reconcile most test… (cont) http://t.co/2ft8Fme0 |
| rliberni |
12:21 PM |
Testing can be a learner centred appch if they need IELTS or TOEFL then it HAS to take centre stage #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:21 PM |
@chrisjw133 @yitzha_sarwono We need to put to bed this idea that dogme = unprepared. See @dalecoulter's blog for great examples. #ELTCHAT |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:21 PM |
@rliberni exactly why it's not really working here, for me at least.Our parents & bosses are more of a textbook kind of type #eltchat |
| reditho |
12:21 PM |
dont know much abt dogme but ive always had the impression U could go unplugged & match wht U have done 2 the syllabus "backwards" #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:21 PM |
@theteacherjames Damn I said I would behave :-) #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:21 PM |
@theteacherjames And hype it beyond belief? #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:21 PM |
RT @AlexandraKouk: RT @Shaunwilden: #ELTchat Does the fact the most schools dont actually test properly make dogme harder to rec… (cont) http://t.co/Z2EY3txn |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:22 PM |
RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat @rliberni True. some teachers think coursebook = the course |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:22 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: #ELTchat Does the fact the most schools dont actually test properly make dogme harder to reconcile most test… (cont) http://t.co/2ft8Fme0 |
| rliberni |
12:23 PM |
@teflgeek how not so? #eltchat |
| brad5patterson |
12:23 PM |
Great point RT @rliberni Testing can be a learner centred appch if they need IELTS or TOEFL then it HAS to take centre stage #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:23 PM |
RT @rliberni: Testing can be a learner centred appch if they need IELTS or TOEFL then it HAS to take centre stage #eltchat Not so! |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:23 PM |
@theteacherjames @chrisjw133 @dalecoulter hehehe I know that, convincing people here that is the hardest part #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
12:23 PM |
@theteacherjames What's going on? #dogmetotherescue #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:23 PM |
@rliberni yes, can appreciate that... I think a lot depends on the levels and also the purpose of assessment, as @teflgeek says #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:23 PM |
@reditho @yitzha_sarwono some schools do dictate how things will be & it's difficult to go a different way. #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:23 PM |
#ELTCHAT How could we motivate exam candidates through dogme? |
| tonygurr |
12:23 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat @theteacherjames Hasn't dogme always been there in those moments of "Teach the sts not the plan"? - Yep :-) |
| Shaunwilden |
12:23 PM |
@theteacherjames @chrisjw133 @yitzha_sarwono @dalecoulter Agreed, dogmatists must get sick of the unprepared link #ELTchat |
| reditho |
12:23 PM |
so I don't see how dogme is in conflict with formal assessment? can't formal assessment be authentic? or is it only about testing? #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
12:24 PM |
Add Dogme to the syllabus. #ELTCHAT |
| Shaunwilden |
12:24 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: Isn't formative assessment based on what's covered in a dogme classroom a much better idea? Not personalised tests, but amalgamate #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
12:24 PM |
Isn't formative assessment based on what's covered in a dogme classroom a much better idea? Not personalised tests, but amalgamate #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:24 PM |
@rliberni Most of the research says that test preparation has little or no effect of test performance- #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:25 PM |
@yitzha_sarwono @chrisjw133 That's why we need to keep detailed records of what has been achieved in class, so we can prove it. #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
12:25 PM |
Better than giving a random content &lang test that mite b way 2easy 4some &2difficult for others. Test at the point of need #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:25 PM |
RT @bethcagnol: Add Dogme to the syllabus. #ELTCHAT Why? |
| teflgeek |
12:25 PM |
@rliberni but then there's a difference between test familiarisation and test practice. #eltchat |
| brad5patterson |
12:25 PM |
#eltchat @AlexandraKouk I think by providing a class environment where they are central motivates. Of course if there is material to cover.. |
| barbsaka |
12:26 PM |
It sounds a bit as if dogme can work well for test prep, but not necessarily being linked to a test #eltchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:26 PM |
:-) RT @harrisonmike @theteacherjames What's going on? #dogmetotherescue #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:26 PM |
@brad5patterson Agreed. Perhaps the problems start when there IS a lot of exam material to cover - how do we use Dogme then? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:26 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: 'Teaching unplugged' has a section about dogme and exam classes, page 94 and 95 if you have the book #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
12:26 PM |
RT @cybraryman1: @bethcagnol My Dogme page: http://t.co/ib5JPbxX #eltchat |
| cybraryman1 |
12:26 PM |
@bethcagnol My Dogme page: http://t.co/ib5JPbxX #eltchat |
| ljp2010 |
12:26 PM |
#ELTchat @harrisonmike Could you define "test at point of need"? |
| rliberni |
12:26 PM |
@teflgeek I'm not sure I agree totally - I'm not talking about test practice but test prep #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:26 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @theteacherjames @chrisjw133 @yitzha_sarwono @dalecoulter Agreed, dogmatists must get sick of the unprepared link #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:27 PM |
@e_siemens Cos i moderating #ELTchat at mo - Tomorrow will be pack me bags and get flight day so then I will be :-) |
| harrisonmike |
12:27 PM |
@ljp2010 Test learners on what they need to learn (which you have addressed thru emergent lang development in lessons) #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:27 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: Isn't formative assessment based on what's covered in a dogme classroom a much better idea? Not personalised tests, but amalgamate #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:27 PM |
RT @barbsaka: It sounds a bit as if dogme can work well for test prep, but not necessarily being linked to a test #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:27 PM |
@AlexandraKouk @brad5patterson Dithc the exam material? Isnt too much of it overkill anyway? #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
12:27 PM |
@rliberni learners need to know what they're up against, sure! but for IELTS et al, language development is more important. #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:28 PM |
RT @barbsaka: It sounds a bit as if dogme can work well for test prep, but not necessarily being linked to a test #eltchat |
| ljp2010 |
12:28 PM |
#ELTchat @harrisonmike Agree. So what other options are there? |
| rliberni |
12:28 PM |
@teflgeek of course , that goes w/out saying but they must know that your focus is getting them thru the exam so it is significant #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:28 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Dithc the exam material? ...? #ELTchat> True! Realistically though, are most teachers allowed to do that? |
| brad5patterson |
12:28 PM |
#eltchat That is the challenge @AlexandraKouk possibly have them present some material in pairs. Listen/ Keep the space open to part needs |
| harrisonmike |
12:28 PM |
@ljp2010 e.g. if a learner already knows the past simple inside out, why test them on it?? #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
12:28 PM |
@Shaunwilden Just so the sts are informed and don't think you're winging it. #ELTCHAT include a description of Dogme in the syllabus. |
| ljp2010 |
12:28 PM |
#ELTchat @harrisonmike and the method of testing to employ? |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:29 PM |
@theteacherjames @chrisjw133 always write down my lesson plans,but based on textbook .Breaking the habit here,is the challenge ^^ #eltchat |
| brad5patterson |
12:29 PM |
Haha... until the scores come back RT @Shaunwilden @AlexandraKouk @brad5patterson Ditch the exam material?... #ELTchat |
| bethcagnol |
12:29 PM |
@Shaunwilden In France, the sts would need it because Dogme is a 180 from what they expect. They appreciate being informed. #ELTCHAT |
| harrisonmike |
12:29 PM |
This is formative assessment isn't it folks? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:29 PM |
@bethcagnol Ah I misunderstood you, yes that is an excellent idea . #ELTchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:30 PM |
RT @barbsaka: It sounds a bit as if dogme can work well for test prep, but not necessarily being linked to a test #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:30 PM |
@Shaunwilden totally agree #eltchat |
| brad5patterson |
12:30 PM |
Headed off to hear @cerirhiannon Enjoy the end of #eltchat all ! |
| bethcagnol |
12:30 PM |
Speaking of sts. I have to go teach now. IC the sts who helped us during the #TESOLFR conf. #ELTCHAT |
| rliberni |
12:30 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: This is formative assessment isn't it folks? #eltchat yes but I thought we were on formal assessment |
| Shaunwilden |
12:30 PM |
@AlexandraKouk prob not, but I think schools use exam material too much, training is imp but loads of past parers is unnecessary #eltchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:30 PM |
RT @brad5patterson: Haha... until the scores come back RT @Shaunwilden @AlexandraKouk @brad5patterson Ditch the exam material?... #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
12:30 PM |
@rliberni but that can be done via dogme? #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:30 PM |
@brad5patterson possibly have them present some material in pairs. Listen/ Keep the space open to part needs #eltchat> great ideas! |
| rliberni |
12:31 PM |
@harrisonmike to be honest I'm not sure myself :-) #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:31 PM |
@yitzha_sarwono @chrisjw133 I don't write lesson plans anymore, it's too restrictive. I do outlines/skeletons which allow space. #eltchat |
| nickcherkas |
12:31 PM |
@bethcagnol @Shaunwilden telling sts about dogme can prepare them and heighten their experience, i've found #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:31 PM |
@bethcagnol At my last school we gave a brochure of what sts can expect re methods etc when they enrolled #eltchat |
| nickcherkas |
12:32 PM |
@theteacherjames @yitzha_sarwono @chrisjw133 #eltchat Me too - that's what dogme is for me, a framework depending on sts' needs |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:32 PM |
RT @nickcherkas: @bethcagnol @Shaunwilden telling sts about dogme can prepare them and heighten their experience, i've found #ELTchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:32 PM |
@rliberni @reditho well,you've been here Berni. I think you can understand the situation better ^^ #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:32 PM |
@teflgeek I didn't say it couldn't be I just said that having the test in mind is also learner centred #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:32 PM |
@nickcherkas @bethcagnol I think this applies to all approaches and methods - informing sts is vital #eltchat |
| chrisjw133 |
12:33 PM |
@theteacherjames @yitzha_sarwono being under a DOS I still have to. I try to allow students to produce as much material as pos #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:33 PM |
@yitzha_sarwono I understand what you're saying - this is one of the reasons that Herlina is trying to change things :-) #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:33 PM |
@nickcherkas @yitzha_sarwono @chrisjw133 That's a good way of looking at it. #eltchat |
| ljp2010 |
12:34 PM |
#ELTchat @chrisjw133 Depends which DOS |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:34 PM |
@theteacherjames that is super! Hope I get to do that too! I'm just gonna prove myself better to get to that level then :-) #Eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:35 PM |
@harrisonmike should think so - yes! #dogme #eltchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:35 PM |
@theteacherjames @nickcherkas @chrisjw133 it sure is! thanks ^^ #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:35 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: Does portfolio type assessment tie in better/more comfortably than test-based assessment with a #dogme approach? #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:35 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @yitzha_sarwono See @dalecoulter's blog for some great examples. Try it now, as an experiment & blog about it! #Eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:35 PM |
RT @AlexandraKouk: #ELTCHAT Perhaps we could suggest some practical dogme-like activities than can be used in an exam prep class? |
| harrisonmike |
12:35 PM |
Does portfolio type assessment tie in better/more comfortably than test-based assessment with a #dogme approach? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:35 PM |
RT @AlexandraKouk: #ELTCHAT Perhaps we could suggest some practical dogme-like activities than can be used in an exam prep class? |
| theteacherjames |
12:35 PM |
@yitzha_sarwono See @dalecoulter's blog for some great examples. Try it now, as an experiment & blog about it! #Eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:35 PM |
#ELTCHAT Perhaps we could suggest some practical dogme-like activities than can be used in an exam prep class? |
| Shaunwilden |
12:36 PM |
@esolcourses @harrisonmike Because it is a truer record of progress? #ELTchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:36 PM |
RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat Dunno if it's dogme. I like the sts to make exam style tasks on subjects they're interested in. > great idea!!! |
| esolcourses |
12:36 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: Does portfolio type assessment tie in better than test-based assessment with a #dogme approach? #eltchat ] IME, yes |
| ljp2010 |
12:36 PM |
#ELTchat @AlexandraKouk Dunno if it's dogme. I like the sts to make exam style tasks on subjects they're interested in. |
| teflgeek |
12:36 PM |
@rliberni sorry from original tweet I thought you meant the teaching should be all about the exam. #eltchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:37 PM |
RT @AlexandraKouk: #ELTCHAT Perhaps we could suggest some practical dogme-like activities than can be used in an exam prep class? |
| Shaunwilden |
12:37 PM |
RT @englishraven: #eltchat @AlexandraKouk 'The best approach to exam prep is an unplugged one' > http://t.co/gBpFsdOX :) |
| analuisalozano |
12:37 PM |
RT @esolcourses: RT @harrisonmike: Does portfolio type assessment tie in better than test-based assessment with a #dogme approach? #eltchat |
| englishraven |
12:37 PM |
#eltchat @AlexandraKouk 'The best approach to exam prep is an unplugged one' > http://t.co/gBpFsdOX :) |
| chrisjw133 |
12:37 PM |
@harrisonmike Are there any formal Portfolio based assessments in the EFL world? I never thought about it before #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
12:38 PM |
@rliberni @AlexandraKouk Lightning talks - sts talk for 1 min abt what they (dont)like abt their room,home,town etc #eltchat (ref TUnplgged) |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:38 PM |
RT @englishraven: #eltchat @AlexandraKouk 'The best approach to exam prep is an unplugged one' > http://t.co/gBpFsdOX :) |
| esolcourses |
12:38 PM |
@Shaunwilden @harrisonmike IME yes, & I also think there is more scope in there for personalising assessment #ELTchat |
| EveWeb |
12:38 PM |
LIVE NOW: Ceri Jones: Getting the reading habit http://t.co/dt1K4Zs2 #ELTChat #ELLChat #webheads #avealmec |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:38 PM |
RT @englishraven: #eltchat @AlexandraKouk 'The best approach to exam prep is an unplugged one' > http://t.co/BZFcmFIh :) |
| theteacherjames |
12:38 PM |
RT @englishraven: #eltchat @AlexandraKouk 'The best approach to exam prep is an unplugged one' > http://t.co/gBpFsdOX :) |
| chrisjw133 |
12:38 PM |
@AlexandraKouk @ljp2010 One that I've been thinking about it getting students to make exam style questions based on a text. #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:38 PM |
RT @AlexandraKouk: #ELTCHAT Perhaps we could suggest some practical dogme-like activities than can be used in an exam prep class? |
| harrisonmike |
12:39 PM |
@chrisjw133 @cecielt's school in Brazil does it. Think it would be institutional rather than global if it does exist #eltchat #portfolio |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:39 PM |
RT @chrisjw133: 1 that ive bn thinking abt itgetting students 2 make exam style questions based on a text.#eltchat >gr8! keep on that track! |
| Shaunwilden |
12:39 PM |
@esolcourses @harrisonmike Which I can see but how does marry with the idea of needing sth 'formal' for career etc? #ELTchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:39 PM |
@chrisjw133 @AlexandraKouk @ljp2010 Think that can work - have done it #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:40 PM |
RT @fionamau: #eltchat Hi. I'm late as usual.. dogme and testing, right? Formal testing or informal? technically formal |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:40 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: Lightning talks- sts talk4 1 min abt wht they (dont)like abt their room,home,town etc #eltchat (ref TUnplgged)>gr8 !!! |
| theteacherjames |
12:40 PM |
@harrisonmike @rliberni @AlexandraKouk Great idea - very similar to IELTS / TOEFL teaching exams. #eltchat |
| MagicinEdu |
12:40 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Reconciling dogme & an unplugged approach with situs where formal assessment key ..in student motivation. - Top topic for 1st #ELTchat :-) |
| fionamau |
12:40 PM |
#eltchat Hi. I'm late as usual.. dogme and testing, right? Formal testing or informal? |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:40 PM |
@theteacherjames will surely do that. @dalecoulter watch out for storming questions from me :p #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:41 PM |
@fionamau Hurrah, another dogmetist joins #eltchat! |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:41 PM |
RT @teflgeek: @harrisonmike: @rliberni @AlexandraKouk #eltchat Just a minute Speaking Relay Race ? http://t.co/1Lfzqoaq > definitely! |
| harrisonmike |
12:41 PM |
@Shaunwilden @esolcourses A portfolio = educational record no? How more formal (in principle) does it need to get?? #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:41 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: @chrisjw133 @cecielt's school in Brazil does it. Think it would be institutional rather than global if it does exist #eltchat #portfolio |
| teflgeek |
12:41 PM |
@harrisonmike: @rliberni @AlexandraKouk #eltchat Just a minute Speaking Relay Race ? http://t.co/z8s4GoWq |
| harrisonmike |
12:42 PM |
@teflgeek Just A Minute speaking good for developing synonym knowledge too #eltchat #radio4 |
| Shaunwilden |
12:42 PM |
@harrisonmike @esolcourses Yes no argument from me here but then if they are not officially recognised..... #eltchat |
| MagicinEdu |
12:42 PM |
RT @englishraven: #eltchat @AlexandraKouk 'The best approach to exam prep is an unplugged one' > http://t.co/gBpFsdOX :) |
| rliberni |
12:42 PM |
@teflgeek no I meant that it is learner centred for those who's career depend in it - it has to be a balance esp at higher levels #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:42 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: @Shaunwilden @esolcourses How more formal (in principle) does it need to get?? #eltchat - Govt Approval? |
| teflgeek |
12:43 PM |
@barbsaka http://t.co/z8s4GoWq #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:43 PM |
@harrisonmike @teflgeek 1 minutes tyalks on random topics even more so!! #eltchat |
| nickcherkas |
12:43 PM |
@harrisonmike @teflgeek #ELTchat and use of discourse markers and fillers |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:43 PM |
@barbsaka bit.ly/dPsJz6 #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
12:43 PM |
@Shaunwilden @esolcourses We rthe change that needs 2happen then. Who's up 4writing something that would become an int portfolio?! #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:43 PM |
@harrisonmike @teflgeek link for the just a minute activities? #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:43 PM |
@harrisonmike @teflgeek Lightning tasks are gr8 IELTS practice I use them a lot! #eltchat |
| PatrickAndrews |
12:43 PM |
@harrisonmike @Shaunwilden @esolcourses portfolios are great but unfortunately some exams have more influence #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:43 PM |
@esolcourses @harrisonmike Links to some when you have time :-) #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:44 PM |
RT @nickcherkas: @harrisonmike @teflgeek #ELTchat and use of discourse markers and fillers > elaborate please? (very interesting idea!) |
| fionamau |
12:44 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: @fionamau Hurrah, another dogmetist joins #eltchat! > :) but it'll take me 15mins to catch up! |
| dalecoulter |
12:44 PM |
want 2 open an online space where students can upload writing, I have access to comment and give feedback,any ideas? #writing #elt #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:44 PM |
@AlexandraKouk Thanks! #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:45 PM |
@fionamau Don't worry, just get stuck in! #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:45 PM |
I love lateral thinking puzzles for question practice, speculation, conditionals etc.. great fun always a hit! #eltchat |
| ljp2010 |
12:45 PM |
#ELTchat @dalecoulter Can voicethread be used for this? Upload the media file, start a conversation? |
| harrisonmike |
12:45 PM |
Jusat a minute rules: http://t.co/iLsu3dj3 #eltchat |
| Wiktor_K |
12:45 PM |
http://t.co/NCF6zrSC - This pdf from eaquals, heavily cefr-based, has some assessment scenarios. Can-do is OK with dogme, right? #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:46 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @esolcourses @teflgeek @harrisonmike Ta maybe i am being dumb but isnt that still prescribing what needs to be taught? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:46 PM |
@esolcourses @teflgeek @harrisonmike Ta maybe i am being dumb but isnt that still prescribing what needs to be taught? #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:46 PM |
RT @rliberni: I luv lateral thinking puzzles 4 question practice, speculation, conditionals etc.. gr8 fun always a hit! #eltchat > tru! |
| dalecoulter |
12:47 PM |
@theteacherjames @AnthonyGaughan @harrisonmike @LukeMeddings @thornburyscott there's another dogme eltchat?? |
| fionamau |
12:47 PM |
@Wiktor_K Can-do is OK with dogme, right? #eltchat > Yes, as a check list - when u've done something, u cross it off - but not as overt aims |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:47 PM |
RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat @dalecoulter Can voicethread be used for this? Upload the media file, start a conversation? > another great idea!!! |
| harrisonmike |
12:47 PM |
@dalecoulter You could share things on google docs #eltchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:47 PM |
RT @rliberni: I love lateral thinking puzzles for question practice, speculation, conditionals etc.. great fun always a hit! #eltchat |
| eyespeakbrasil |
12:47 PM |
Hey all better late than never. #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:48 PM |
@Shaunwilden @teflgeek @harrisonmike depends how you do it - again, not something you can debate properly in 140chrs, I think #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:48 PM |
RT @teflgeek: @dalecoulter or check out primary pad: http://t.co/r4Ne4qp1 #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:48 PM |
RT @fionamau: #eltchat If u teach dogme, u usually cover the language 'required' for formal exams, and then some. U just need practice of the exam format |
| fionamau |
12:48 PM |
#eltchat If u teach dogme, u usually cover the language 'required' for formal exams, and then some. U just need practice of the exam format |
| Wiktor_K |
12:48 PM |
@fionamau Yes, that was my idea - I think even behind the most free-style dogme lesson there has to be a lot of implicit expertise #ELTchat |
| teflgeek |
12:48 PM |
@dalecoulter or check out primary pad: http://t.co/r4Ne4qp1 #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:48 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @esolcourses @teflgeek @harrisonmike Ta mayB i'm being dumb but isnt that still prescribing wht needs 2 B taught? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:48 PM |
@fionamau So how do you know when you have progressed a level? #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:49 PM |
@Shaunwilden which brings us back to the test again. make the test about ability, not knowledge and it doesn't matter! #eltchat |
| fionamau |
12:49 PM |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat For students, u can pin a copy of the target lang fr the level on the wall, & cross it off as u go. If necessary, u... |
| rliberni |
12:50 PM |
RT @barbsaka: Moving into the final 10 minutes of #eltchat Start thinking about volunteering to do our summary. Please :) |
| Shaunwilden |
12:50 PM |
@fionamau Thanks, that makes sense :-) #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:50 PM |
Moving into the final 10 minutes of #eltchat Start thinking about volunteering to do our summary. Please :) |
| fionamau |
12:50 PM |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat ... add a 'trad' session near the exam to cover anything missing, but in my experience it hasn't been necessary. |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:50 PM |
RT @fionamau: @Shaunwilden #eltchat For students, u can pin a copy of the target lang fr the level on the wall, & cross it off as u go. If necessary, u... |
| rliberni |
12:50 PM |
Did a course last week - agricultural/horticultural/economy stds used lots of podcasts, Youtube, radio, discussion and farm visits #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:50 PM |
Ten minutes left #eltchat any more practical tips or ideas? |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:50 PM |
RT @fionamau: @Shaunwilden #eltchat 4 students, u cn pin a copy of the target lang fr the level on the wall… (cont) http://t.co/yAxAvWpF |
| fionamau |
12:51 PM |
@Shaunwilden #eltchat In fact, w/ teens, once u've got em motivated, u can get them 'to the level' in half the normal time. Honest. Done it. |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:51 PM |
RT @barbsaka: Moving into the final 10 minutes of #eltchat Start thinking about volunteering to do our summary. Please :) |
| esolcourses |
12:51 PM |
RT @fionamau: @Shaunwilden #eltchat For students, u can pin a copy of the target lang fr the level on the wall, & cross it off as u go. |
| Shaunwilden |
12:52 PM |
@Marisa_C Haven't you got feedback to go give :-) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:52 PM |
@fionamau It wouldn't surprise me, the idea of crossing it off on the wall is a really good one :-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:52 PM |
RT @fionamau: #eltchat If u teach dogme, u usually cover the language 'required' for formal exams, and then so… (cont) http://t.co/C0k3I4iZ |
| theteacherjames |
12:52 PM |
RT @fionamau: #eltchat If u teach dogme, u usually cover the language 'required' for formal exams, and then some. U just need practice of the exam format |
| rliberni |
12:52 PM |
@Shaunwilden go out if you can, esp in English spking countries - courts, talks, there sooo much stuff around of value #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:53 PM |
@Wiktor_K Good point, I was just wondering how revision fitted in #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:53 PM |
@Marisa_C so that's how it's done! #eltchat |
| OzGrrl09 |
12:53 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: 'Teaching unplugged' has a section about dogme and exam classes, page 94 and 95 if you have the book #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:53 PM |
@Shaunwilden in a few minutes - all writing own feedback for each other now - so tutor can tweet :-) #eltchat |
| Wiktor_K |
12:53 PM |
Another problem with dogme's relation to testing is revision - with a lesson which is supposed to be "generated" with learners? #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
12:53 PM |
RT @rliberni @Shaunwilden go out if you can, esp in English spking countries - courts, talks, there sooo much stuff around of value #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:54 PM |
Towards the end of a course, ask sts to go back & improve earlier written work. Discuss the changes they have made. #eltchat |
| fionamau |
12:54 PM |
@Wiktor_K Dogme's all about expertise, in a sense, & fr 'newbies' it's abt daring 2 say 'we'll look at it together 2moro' & learnin #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:54 PM |
@Shaunwilden @Wiktor_K I usually ask them what they want to revise? Set the goal, not the content. #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:55 PM |
#ELTCHAT using short talks, having a list of objectives on the wall & write things off, voicethread & google docs, podcasts - anything else? |
| ljp2010 |
12:55 PM |
#ELTchat Gotta go film a Beg Kids' play :) Thx everyone. Gr8 chat. |
| esolcourses |
12:55 PM |
@Wiktor_K learners can revise between lessons. I give them links & upload follow-on activities to my website to rwork on #ELTChat |
| esolcourses |
12:56 PM |
RT @theteacherjames Towards the end of a course, ask sts to go back & improve earlier written work. Discuss changes they have made. #eltchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:56 PM |
RT @theteacherjames: Towards the end of a course, ask sts to go back & improve earlier written work. Discuss the changes they have made. #eltchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:56 PM |
RT @teflgeek: @Shaunwilden @Wiktor_K I usually ask them what they want to revise? Set the goal, not the content. #eltchat |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:56 PM |
RT @fionamau: @Wiktor_K Dogme's all about expertise, in a sense, & fr 'newbies' it's abt daring 2 say 'we'll look at it together 2moro' & learnin #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:57 PM |
RT @fionamau: @Shaunwilden the idea of crossing it off on the wall > It's motivating too, cuz they can see progress & have a reference point 2 #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:57 PM |
@teflgeek from day one - autonomy & self reflection should begin early #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:57 PM |
@harrisonmike Bye Mike thanks for joining #eltchat |
| fionamau |
12:57 PM |
@Shaunwilden the idea of crossing it off on the wall > It's motivating too, cuz they can see progress & have a reference point 2 #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
12:57 PM |
Byeeee #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:57 PM |
@Wiktor_K Vocab revision can absolutely be integrated into a dogme class. We have the space to include it. #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:58 PM |
@Marisa_C with exam classes they don't always know what they don't know... but I take the point! #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
12:58 PM |
@teflgeek @Shaunwilden @Wiktor_K I keep a record of the vocab to revise, bring to next class, remind them & practice. #eltchat |
| rliberni |
12:58 PM |
Some photos of my 'unplugged' stuff :-) http://t.co/tMV8JZM4 #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:58 PM |
Summary anyone? #eltchat |
| Wiktor_K |
12:58 PM |
@teflgeek @Shaunwilden @esolcourses so,with revision at home &learner-directed,what's teacher's role here &does dogme account4it? #ELTchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
12:58 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @teflgeek from day one - autonomy & self reflection should begin early #eltchat |
| teflgeek |
12:59 PM |
@Wiktor_K being the reference of last resort? #eltchat |
| OztrkOzge |
12:59 PM |
#ELTCHAT hi dear all, i am late but want to read your tweets about testing and see if i can catch up... |
| English_safari |
12:59 PM |
“@dalecoulter: want 2 open an online space where students can upload writing, I have access to ..#eltchat” > Moodle will let you do all that |
| yitzha_sarwono |
12:59 PM |
RT @rliberni: Some photos of my 'unplugged' stuff :-) http://t.co/tMV8JZM4 #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:59 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: I really like the revision ideas that people have suggested #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
12:59 PM |
So, who's interested in writing the summary for this chat? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:59 PM |
I really like the revision ideas that people have suggested #eltchat |
| phil2wade |
1:00 PM |
@fionamau @Shaunwilden #ELTCHAT Online blogs are good for journals. |
| AlexandraKouk |
1:00 PM |
RT @English_safari: “@dalecoulter: wnt 2 open an online space whr students cn upload ..#eltchat >Moodle will let U do all that > also wikis? |
| Shaunwilden |
1:00 PM |
RT @barbsaka: So, who's interested in writing the summary for this chat? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
1:00 PM |
@fionamau We did now thanks :-) #eltchat |
| fionamau |
1:00 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Ten minutes left #eltchat more practical tips or ideas? > Did u mention writing journals? Essential tools for 'diagnosis' |
| theteacherjames |
1:01 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: We really need a summary writer volunteer please #eltchat |
| barbsaka |
1:01 PM |
C'mon...you know in your heart you want to volunteer! We love our summary writers :) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
1:01 PM |
We really need a summary writer volunteer please #eltchat |
| rliberni |
1:01 PM |
Great chat everyone please volunteer for the summary thanks to fab co-mods as ever @barbsaka @Shaunwilden and @Marisa_C #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
1:02 PM |
Tonight's #eltchat is on Using wikis in ELT - 21.00GMT |
| Wiktor_K |
1:02 PM |
@teflgeek Hah, good one :) I used 2 teach callan method - even a hardcore method like this switched 2 exam papers later for FCE...#ELTchat |
| AlexandraKouk |
1:02 PM |
RT @rliberni: gr8 chat everyone please volunteer 4 the summary thx 2 fab co-mods as evr @barbsaka @Shaunwilden & @Marisa_C #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
1:03 PM |
I love talking #dogme with you people! Thanks to moderators @barbsaka @Shaunwilden & @rliberni. #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
1:03 PM |
@Wiktor_K I see teachers role as being facilitator, helping s's become autonomous learners. Other end of spectrum to spoon-feeding? #ELTCHAT |
| Marisa_C |
1:03 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Tonight's #eltchat is on Using wikis in ELT - 21.00GMT |
| bucharesttutor |
1:03 PM |
RT @barbsaka: C'mon...you know in your heart you want to volunteer! We love our summary writers :) #eltchat |
| fionamau |
1:03 PM |
RT @phil2wade @Shaunwilden #ELTCHAT Online blogs are good 4 journals.>Yes, bt there's something + personal abt a notebook..u can graffiti it |
| teflgeek |
1:04 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Tonight's #eltchat is on Using wikis in ELT - which I can't make! So here's something I prep… (cont) http://t.co/7Gw4PQco |
| esolcourses |
1:04 PM |
Thanks for another great #ELTChat folks! Catch you later :-) |
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