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BarberDaniel

11:01 PM

Evening  #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:01 PM

Actually this is not true -  have to stay up till very late/early lots writing and more deadlines this way #ELTchat

hartle

11:01 PM

Hi everyone #eltchat

EdithOccelli

11:01 PM

Hello #Eltchat

Marisa_C

11:02 PM

@hartle  #eltchat :-)  @kalinagoenglish @Raquel_EFL  #eltchat #ELtchat Hya!

hartle

11:02 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: RT @BarberDaniel: Evening  #eltchat > evening! Hi Ceri... Loved yr Welsh lesson plant :-)

kalinagoenglish

11:02 PM

Oops, forgot the #eltchat hashtag -

cerirhiannon

11:02 PM

RT @BarberDaniel: Evening  #eltchat > evening!

hartle

11:02 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Are you ready for #ELTchat? Or shall I go to bed? U cd do #eltchat from yr bed...

Marisa_C

11:03 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat discussing learner strategies - can u RT this pls and join?

sandymillin

11:03 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat discussing learner training <mine too! Evening all

hartle

11:03 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: @hartle  hiya!  thank you :) #eltchat Did U use plantmaker or have U got full programme?

cerirhiannon

11:03 PM

RT @kalinagoenglish: Oops, forgot the #eltchat hashtag - > easily done ;)

cerirhiannon

11:03 PM

@hartle  hiya!  thank you :) #eltchat

cerirhiannon

11:03 PM

for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat discussing learner training

EdithOccelli

11:04 PM

RT @kalinagoenglish: RT @cerirhiannon: for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat discussing learner training >>Mine 2

Marisa_C

11:04 PM

RT @kalinagoenglish: @marisa_c  Maybe folks start off by defining what you think learning strategies are #ELTchat good start

kalinagoenglish

11:04 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat discussing learner training >>Mine 2

theteacherjames

11:04 PM

RT @Marisa_C: RT @cerirhiannon: for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat discussing learner strategies - can u RT this pls and join?

hartle

11:04 PM

RT @Marisa_C: RT @cerirhiannon: for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat discussing learner strategies - can u RT this pls and join?

shaznosel

11:05 PM

#Eltchat good evening ! Late  and rushed but here!

cerirhiannon

11:05 PM

learning strategies = choices we consciously make about how to sudy/manage learning #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:05 PM

RT @EdithOccelli: I think Learning strategies are steps taken by students to enhance their own learning #Eltchat

Marisa_C

11:05 PM

RT @BarberDaniel: #eltchat β€specfc actns, behvrs, steps, tchnqs ss use -oftn conscsly- 2 imprv prgrss in using L2β€ http://t.co/I6odypQb

BarberDaniel

11:05 PM

#eltchat β€specfc actns, behvrs, steps, tchnqs ss use -oftn conscsly- 2 imprv prgrss in using L2β€ http://t.co/ORVYOCUb

Marisa_C

11:05 PM

Any definitions coming our way? #eltchat

EdithOccelli

11:05 PM

I think Learning strategies are steps taken by students to enhance their own learning #Eltchat

hartle

11:06 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: RT @hartle: #eltchat learning stratgies are the experiments that worked out well along the way > very nice! Thnx :-)

EdithOccelli

11:06 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: RT @hartle: #eltchat learning stratgies are the experiments that worked out well along the way > very nice!

cerirhiannon

11:06 PM

RT @hartle: #eltchat learning stratgies are the experiments that worked out well along the way > very nice!

cerirhiannon

11:06 PM

RT @shaznosel: #Eltchat good evening ! Late  and rushed but here! > hi! me too :)

Marisa_C

11:06 PM

@shaznosel hya Shaz  #Eltchat

hartle

11:06 PM

#eltchat learning stratgies are the experiments that worked out well along the way

sandymillin

11:06 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat I think learning strategies are anything ss do to help them learn more efficiently and effectively

BarberDaniel

11:06 PM

or unconsciously  #eltchat

BarberDaniel

11:07 PM

such a wide range of strategies frm the easily acquirable to not so  #eltchat

shaznosel

11:07 PM

@Marisa_C  #eltchat different ways of helping ss learn - brainstorming, critical thinking, open ended q's- difficult to apply in greece

EdithOccelli

11:07 PM

I think some people are natural but that they can also be learned from direct instruction and practice #Eltchat

cerirhiannon

11:07 PM

RT @BarberDaniel: or unconsciously  #eltchat > are they strategies if they're unconscious? (genuine question!)

Marisa_C

11:07 PM

All good, working definitions - the big question in research is "Can they be acquired?"What do you think? #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:08 PM

So some can be acquired, others not so easy to #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:08 PM

@cerirhiannon Does your definition include inside the classroom or just outside? #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:08 PM

#eltchat @marisa_c I think so, sometimes the act of becoming aware of a different way to learn helps enormously

shaznosel

11:08 PM

@Marisa_C  #eltchat acquired - yes..taught- difficult one!

cerirhiannon

11:08 PM

RT @Marisa_C:  "Can they be acquired?"What do you think? #eltchat > some can, depends on the learner and the strategies (sorry NOT helpful!)

hartle

11:08 PM

RT @Marisa_C:  "Can they be acquired?"What do you think? #eltchat some yes, I'd say, but so much depends on beliefs and motivation

EdithOccelli

11:09 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @theteacherjames @cerirhiannon  I think we woudl all agree that involves both the classroom and outside #Eltchat agreed. I

Marisa_C

11:09 PM

@theteacherjames @cerirhiannon  I think we woudl all agree that involves both the classroom and outside #Eltchat

hartle

11:09 PM

RT @EdithOccelli: The thing with LSS is that they tend to be very individual. What works for you may not work for me #Eltchat

cerirhiannon

11:09 PM

RT @theteacherjames: @cerirhiannon Does your definition include inside the classroom or just outside? #eltchat > both ( I think!)

sandymillin

11:09 PM

@Marisa_C definitely. As a learner i've refined my strategies for learning throughout my studies, especially regarding vocab.#eltchat

EdithOccelli

11:09 PM

The thing with LSS is that they tend to be very individual. What works for you may not work for me #Eltchat

cerirhiannon

11:09 PM

#what's acquirable for one student makes not sense to another #eltchat

hartle

11:09 PM

#eltchat if U believe U have to suffer to learn then you won't develop more humanistic strategies and vice versa

gsussex

11:09 PM

#ELTchat - learning strategies = how we engage pupils & enable learning to happen, take into account their learning preferences and needs

sandymillin

11:10 PM

@cerirhiannon #eltchat agreed that diff strategies work for diff students. That's why we should show ss range and let thm pick for home stdy

Marisa_C

11:10 PM

Acquiring strategic competence - some claim - requires some maturity and ability to reflect on one's own learning - do you agree? #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:10 PM

#eltchat @marisa_c I did a short online "mini-course" on the best way to read academic journals - major change in thinking, think ss can 2

shaznosel

11:10 PM

@cerirhiannon  #eltchat both ..strategies are kind of an attitude- are they not?

hartle

11:10 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @theteacherjames @cerirhiannon  I think we woudl all agree that involves both the classroom and outside #Eltchat Definitely

cerirhiannon

11:10 PM

@Marisa_C @theteacherjames  thanks mod :)  #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:10 PM

@Marisa_C @cerirhiannon Thanks (just checking the parameters!) #Eltchat

shaznosel

11:11 PM

@Marisa_C  #eltchat agree...self evaluation and critical thinking comes with maturity - one hopes!

cerirhiannon

11:11 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Acquiring strategic competence requires maturity &ability to reflect on  learning #eltchat >  but maturity does not = age

EdithOccelli

11:11 PM

RT @hartle: #eltchat it's all about giving learners options, then they cn see what works or doesn't for them.

hartle

11:11 PM

#eltchat it's all about giving learners options, then they cn see what works or doesn't for them.

theteacherjames

11:12 PM

RT @hartle: #eltchat it's all about giving learners options, then they cn see what works or doesn't for them.

cerirhiannon

11:12 PM

RT @sandymillin: #eltchat  diff strategies work for diff students. show ss range & let thm pick for home stdy > yes, &classroom use

hartle

11:12 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Marisa_C: Acquiring strategic competence requires maturity &ability to reflect on  learning #eltchat >  but maturity does not = age

sandymillin

11:12 PM

RT @hartle: #eltchat it's all about giving learners options, then they cn see what works or doesn't for them.

theteacherjames

11:12 PM

So I assume we need to take learning styles into account when considering strategies? #ELTChat

sandymillin

11:12 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat what do you mean by strategic competnce? Being able to apply strategies? Or find new ones?

BarberDaniel

11:13 PM

many LLS come naturaly to young learners- 'not being afraid to have a go' cld be 1 which deteriorates with maturity (or is it age?) #eltchat

shaznosel

11:13 PM

@theteacherjames  #ELTChat agree - understanding your own learning style is imp..but for yls upto t s to suss it out..

EdithOccelli

11:13 PM

@theteacherjames  sytles and strategies are different things but they do depend on each other. Strategies chosen suit your L style #Eltchat

Marisa_C

11:13 PM

@theteacherjames Yes, I think awareness of one's own learning style and using it would prob be part of what we re tlaking about  #ELTChat

hartle

11:13 PM

RT @theteacherjames: So I assume we need to take learning styles into account when considering strategies? #ELTChat Yes, the two are linked

vickyloras

11:14 PM

RT @hartle: RT @theteacherjames: So I assume we need to take learning styles into account when considering strategies? #ELTChat Yes, the two are linked

Marisa_C

11:14 PM

@sandymillin the ability to use strategies for learning, e,g, ignoring unknown vocabulary, sampling a text, etc #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:14 PM

RT @marisa_c: @theteacherjames @cerirhiannon  definitely - and thinking about how learning in both too #Eltchat

cerirhiannon

11:14 PM

#eltchat kids use a range of different strategiesthey just seem to come across naturally ... maybe we lose this to some extent as adults?

BarberDaniel

11:15 PM

#eltchat Q’aire which serves as comprehensive list of LL strats -  http://t.co/mnkKWv4U

Marisa_C

11:15 PM

RT @BarberDaniel: what abt obvious ones we can teach like good dictionary use?  #eltchat > I think good idea to make a first listing

theteacherjames

11:15 PM

@EdithOccelli @shaznosel  @kalinagoenglish It's interesting because I think most Ss probably haven't given it much thought before. #ELTChat

BarberDaniel

11:15 PM

what abt obvious ones we can teach like good dictionary use?  #eltchat

lauraahaha

11:16 PM

Terrific! RT @BarberDaniel: #eltchat Q’aire which serves as comprehensive list of LL strats -  http://t.co/A2AzhVCp

bethcagnol

11:16 PM

RT @sandymillin: @Marisa_C definitely. As a learner i've refined my strategies for learning throughout my studies, especially regarding vocab.#eltchat

Marisa_C

11:16 PM

RT @BarberDaniel: #eltchat Q’aire which serves as comprehensive list of LL strats -  http://t.co/ey5T47AM> Lovely!!!! Thanks !!!!

cerirhiannon

11:16 PM

RT @BarberDaniel: #eltchat Q’aire which serves as comprehensive list of LL strats -  http://t.co/mnkKWv4U

bethcagnol

11:16 PM

RT @Marisa_C: All good, working definitions - the big question in research is "Can they be acquired?"What do you think? #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:16 PM

RT @barberdaniel: what abt obvious ones we can teach like good dictionary use?  #eltchat or how to use google define /duckduckgo

Marisa_C

11:17 PM

I think that most learners are intensely interested in their own learning - so if you decide to do this they usu respond #eltchat

sandymillin

11:17 PM

@Marisa_C thanks! Definitely tink thye need to be retaught to adults, but that kids often have them. #eltchat

bethcagnol

11:17 PM

RT @theteacherjames: So I assume we need to take learning styles into account when considering strategies? #ELTChat

BarberDaniel

11:17 PM

Rebecca Oxford to thank. She's the authority on it all! #eltchat

bethcagnol

11:17 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Acquiring strategic competence - some claim - requires some maturity and ability to reflect on one's own learning - do you agree? #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:17 PM

RT @bethcagnol @Marisa_C: the big question in research is "Can they be acquired?"What do you think? Yes, of course #eltchat

shaznosel

11:17 PM

@cerirhiannon agree ..and the t seems to respond naturally but adults are diff  they want to be something they are not #Eltchat

hartle

11:18 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @hartle lists learning strategies in some sort of needs analysis  #eltchat thnx

kalinagoenglish

11:18 PM

RT @lauraahaha: Terrific! RT @BarberDaniel: #eltchat Q’aire which serves as comprehensive list of LL strats -  http://t.co/CFw2XFuC

Marisa_C

11:18 PM

@hartle lists learning strategies in some sort of needs analysis  #eltchat

shaznosel

11:18 PM

@englishraven you never cease to amaze us! #Eltchat

KatySDavies

11:18 PM

RT @BarberDaniel: #eltchat and also helping SS learn the phonemic chart so they can record the pronunciation with the vocab

hartle

11:18 PM

#eltchat got a bit behiind due to emails.. :-(  What's Quaire?

cerirhiannon

11:18 PM

#my 7 yr old finds it easier 2ead if she sings the words - istrategy she found 4herself - she uses it consistently & it works  #eltchat

EdithOccelli

11:19 PM

RT @bethcagnol: I think sts need 2B told they have the rt 2 reflect on their own learning style. #ELTCHAT tru & B given tools 2

shaznosel

11:19 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @hartle lists learning strategies in some sort of needs analysis  #eltchat

hartle

11:19 PM

RT @bethcagnol: @Marisa_C @theteacherjames I think sts need 2B told they have the right... #ELTCHAT Yes, & sometimes they don't realise

sandymillin

11:19 PM

RT @bethcagnol: @Marisa_C @theteacherjames I think sts need 2B told they have the right 2 reflect on their own learning style. #ELTCHAT

shaznosel

11:19 PM

@KatySDavies  #eltchat totally with you on this one..but timetables  to complete the c/books in greece do not allow time for this

sandymillin

11:19 PM

@KatySDavies yay! Glas ou coudl make it to your first #eltchat  :)

bethcagnol

11:19 PM

@Marisa_C @theteacherjames I think sts need 2B told they have the right 2 reflect on their own learning style. #ELTCHAT

cerirhiannon

11:20 PM

@theteacherjames @bethcagnol @Marisa_C  so need to spend classroom time on exploring learning styles - in other subjects too? #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:20 PM

Do you use similar quaires when you do a needs analysis or profile your classes? I think this a great starting point #eltchat

shaznosel

11:20 PM

@theteacherjames  #ELTChat i think it upto t to give it some thought..and expose the ss to the idea

theteacherjames

11:20 PM

@bethcagnol @Marisa_C Yes, I don't think they've probably thought about it much before. They are aware, but it's a new idea. #ELTCHAT

sandymillin

11:20 PM

Apologies for all of my spelling mistakes tonight! Fighting the keyboard, so hope you can understand! #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:21 PM

It's interesting how my students are always surprised when I spend some time on HOW to learn. It's always the first time for them. #ELTCHAT

hartle

11:21 PM

#eltchat At times my stds get so caught up in exam strategies tht they have no mental space for learning strategies.

AnthonyGaughan

11:21 PM

When you say "learning styles", what precisely do you mean? #eltchat PS: hello!

kalinagoenglish

11:21 PM

#eltchat - why the "right" to reflect on ... not clear on this, does this mean that they don't feel like they do?

lauraahaha

11:21 PM

RT @shaznosel: @KatySDavies  #eltchat timetables to complete the c/books do not allow time for this < Gd point. When to teach Ls these LSS??

sandymillin

11:22 PM

RT @hartle: #eltchat At times my stds get so caught up in exam strategies tht they have no mental space for learning strategies.

KatySDavies

11:22 PM

@sandymillin  #eltchat  thanks Sandy!   @shaznosel@lauraahaha  it's a good point, and it's hard to find time without following a c/book

Marisa_C

11:22 PM

@AnthonyGaughan rule former vs data gatherer, e.g. skeletonizer vs embroider, visual vs auditory - long list  #eltchat

sandymillin

11:22 PM

RT @lauraahaha: RT @shaznosel: @KatySDavies  #eltchat timetables to complete the c/books do not allow time for this < Gd point. When to teach Ls these LSS??

hartle

11:22 PM

RT @AnthonyGaughan: When you say "learning styles"... #eltchat Hi Anthony. I mean the classic, visual, auditory, kinesthetic

cerirhiannon

11:22 PM

#eltchat often giving space to discuss frustrations with strategies/activites they don't like can help them find ones that work 4 them?

shaznosel

11:22 PM

@kalinagoenglish  #eltchat i teach the IPA without my bosses knowing ...on the side! SS appreciate it and we just fit it in !

theteacherjames

11:22 PM

@shaznosel Yes, it's definitely our responsibility. #ELTChat

Marisa_C

11:22 PM

Starting from Day One, Ss need to know you are just as keen to help them with the way they learn #eltchat

cerirhiannon

11:23 PM

RT @KatySDavies:  #eltchat hard to find time following a c/book > reflecting on CB activities can be a way in to discussing LLS

Marisa_C

11:23 PM

@bethcagnol I think this a good tactic - no need to overwhelm with terminology we use as professionals  #ELTCHAT

hartle

11:23 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat oftn gving space 2 discuss frustrations w/ strategies they dont lk cn help them find ones that work 4 them?

bethcagnol

11:23 PM

@cerirhiannon @theteacherjames @marisa_c Exploring learning styles in other subjects is also very useful, I agree. #ELTCHAT

theteacherjames

11:23 PM

@cerirhiannon @bethcagnol @Marisa_C I think it's worthwhile. If pushed for time could turn it into a reading activity I suppose! #eltchat

EdithOccelli

11:23 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat oftn gving space 2 discuss frustrations w/ strategies they dont lk cn help them find ones that work 4 them?

bethcagnol

11:23 PM

@Marisa_C I tell my sts about some general learning styles so they know they may not learn the same way as their neighbor. #ELTCHAT

Marisa_C

11:24 PM

@BarberDaniel Absolutely agree with you - woven into fabrid of every lesson - what a good phrase - sign of a process oriented T #eltchat

cerirhiannon

11:24 PM

RT @Marisa_C: RT @BarberDaniel: Like phon, LLS in dangr of being isolated in special lessons. Shld be stitched in fabr of every lesson  #eltchat

sandymillin

11:24 PM

I spent the first week of my course giving students some ideas for learning vocab, practising reading etc outside class #eltchat

hartle

11:24 PM

RT @Marisa_C: RT @BarberDaniel: Like phon, LLS in dangr of being isolated in special lessons. Shld be stitched in fabr of every lesson  #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:24 PM

#eltchat I used 2 hav discussion before starting classes @sandymillin + tips / websites / what dogme was and why we'd be learning this way

bethcagnol

11:24 PM

RT @hartle: #eltchat At times my stds get so caught up in exam strategies tht they have no mental space for learning strategies.

cerirhiannon

11:24 PM

@theteacherjames @bethcagnol @Marisa_C  reading activities can be a gr8 place to start #eltchat

cybraryman1

11:24 PM

Very important to understand how each of your students learn.  For example: Visual Spatial Learners: http://t.co/kt4kOGYk #ELTchat

bethcagnol

11:24 PM

@kalinagoenglish Some don't know or realize the have the right. #ELTCHAT esp in France.

Marisa_C

11:24 PM

RT @BarberDaniel: Like phon, LLS in dangr of being isolated in special lessons. Shld be stitched in fabr of every lesson  #eltchat

BarberDaniel

11:24 PM

Like phon, LLS in dangr of being isolated in special lessons. Shld be stitched in fabr of every lesson  #eltchat

sandymillin

11:25 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @BarberDaniel Absolutely agree with you - woven into fabrid of every lesson - what a good phrase - sign of a process oriented T #eltchat

EdithOccelli

11:25 PM

RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat Hi everyone - I think it's important to incorporate strategies in what you are teaching, little and often.

cybraryman1

11:25 PM

@kalinagoenglish My Dogme page (with your post at the top!): http://t.co/ib5JPbxX  #ELTchat

toulasklavou

11:25 PM

@shaznosel @kalinagoenglish Good for you!#eltchat

AnthonyGaughan

11:25 PM

@Marisa_C Long list, yes, precisely.  Useful list? Hmm... #eltchat

lauraahaha

11:25 PM

Maybe controversial but cld sometimes having co-teachers (ofwhich 1 good+1 not-so-good) help Ss realise what helps them learn more? #eltchat

hartle

11:25 PM

#eltchat LLS definitely need to come up all the time... so many different activities so many ways to learn and share

bethcagnol

11:25 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat often giving space to discuss frustrations with strategies/activites they don't like can help them find ones that work 4 them?

cerirhiannon

11:25 PM

RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat Hi everyone - I think it's important to incorporate strategies in what you are teaching, little and often

antoniaclare

11:25 PM

#eltchat Hi everyone - I think it's important to incorporate strategies in what you are teaching, little and often

bethcagnol

11:26 PM

@Marisa_C @anthonygaughan And the "saturated learner." one who's already overbooked in other subjects. #ELTCHAT

margoflower

11:26 PM

RT @cybraryman1: Very important to understand how each of your students learn.  For example: Visual Spatial Learners: http://t.co/kt4kOGYk #ELTchat

Marisa_C

11:26 PM

@AnthonyGaughan There isn't enough research on this - whether they can be transmitted or acquired  #eltchat

lauraahaha

11:26 PM

RT @EdithOccelli: RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat it's important to incorporate strategies in what you are teaching, little and often.

AnthonyGaughan

11:26 PM

@Marisa_C I know, Off-Topic ;-) #eltchat

antoniaclare

11:26 PM

for the next 30 mins my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat discussing learner training

AnthonyGaughan

11:26 PM

@hartle How seriously do you take that Vak(t) paradigm and its implementation? #eltchat

shaznosel

11:26 PM

@sandymillin  #eltchat Me too for adults..you can even explain strategies but yls..means you take control!

Marisa_C

11:26 PM

@AnthonyGaughan possibly - a good idea to keep in mind  #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:26 PM

Would your bosses stop you!? @shaznosel #eltchat i teach the IPA w/o my bosses knowing .. SS appreciate it and we just fit it in !

lauraahaha

11:26 PM

RT @BarberDaniel: Like phon, LLS in dangr of being isolated in special lessons. Shld be stitched in fabr of every lesson  #eltchat

BarberDaniel

11:27 PM

RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat you can help direct them with things like vocab records, personalised grammar sentences etc. YES

Marisa_C

11:27 PM

@BarberDaniel VAK paradigm good for awareness to use variety of media in lessons - catch'em all so to speak  #eltchat

antoniaclare

11:27 PM

#eltchat you can help direct them with things like vocab records, personalised grammar sentences etc.

bethcagnol

11:27 PM

RT @theteacherjames: @cerirhiannon @bethcagnol @Marisa_C I think it's worthwhile. If pushed for time could turn it into a reading activity I suppose! #eltchat

BarberDaniel

11:27 PM

RT @AnthonyGaughan: @hartle How seriously do you take that Vak(t) paradigm and its implementation? #eltchat Not very - simplification

kalinagoenglish

11:28 PM

Great tips @antoniaclare: #eltchat you can help direct them with things like vocab records, personalised grammar sentences etc.

hoprea

11:28 PM

@shaznosel @kalinagoenglish This seems to be a problem everywhere. I guess the problem lies within teacher training. #eltchat

cerirhiannon

11:28 PM

RT @theteacherjames: @sandymillin Yes, I try to do these things to. Ideas in how to introduce English into their lives in a non-intrusive way. #eltchat

cerirhiannon

11:28 PM

#eltchat an element of leading horse to water ... e.g. introducing ss to recording themselves, writing on blogs, keeping vocab records etc

theteacherjames

11:28 PM

@sandymillin Yes, I try to do these things to. Ideas in how to introduce English into their lives in a non-intrusive way. #eltchat

ljp2010

11:28 PM

#ELTchat do things in enough different ways and the repetition will be successful.  hi all btw!

hartle

11:28 PM

RT @AnthonyGaughan: @hartle How seriously do you take ...#eltchat I try to provide a balance of activities so there's smthg 4 everyone

bethcagnol

11:28 PM

RT @hartle: #eltchat LLS definitely need to come up all the time... so many different activities so many ways to learn and share

hoprea

11:28 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @BarberDaniel VAK paradigm good for awareness to use variety of media in lessons - catch'em all so to speak  #eltchat

antoniaclare

11:28 PM

#eltchat What kinds of Ltraining strategies do you use?

shaznosel

11:28 PM

@kalinagoenglish  #eltchat it is not seen as necessary here..we may fall behind plus the other teachers don't even know what IPA is...

kalinagoenglish

11:28 PM

I'm so confused! and amazed! that it'd b a problem in institutions, teaching learning strategies :-( @bethcagnol #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:29 PM

I think many students are hungry for the "fastest" "best" way to learn, my learners usually very happy to get tips #eltchat

shaznosel

11:29 PM

@hoprea  #eltchat totally..you can teach in greece with just a proficiency pass..helllllooooo??

hartle

11:29 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat an element of leading horse to water ... e.g. introducing ss to recording themselves, writing on blogs, keeping vocab records etc

BarberDaniel

11:29 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat an element of leading horse to water ...  Agree

hartle

11:29 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @BarberDaniel VAK paradigm good for awareness to use variety of media in lessons - catch'em all so to speak  #eltchat

AnthonyGaughan

11:29 PM

Overivew article on LLS - lots to take issue with (if you like): http://t.co/5s7htlWv #eltchat

bethcagnol

11:29 PM

@lauraahaha I'm pretty frank with sts about what in know about their educational past and the not-so-good teachers. #ELTCHAT

EdithOccelli

11:29 PM

@antoniaclare yes I think the teacher shld model diffferent lerning strategies 4 the difft activities & let lrnrs choose wht works #Eltchat

lauraahaha

11:30 PM

@bethcagnol Yeah I think Ss can learn a lot from poor Ts eg 'I learn better when I do X so I'm gonna do it anyway despite crap T!' #ELTCHAT

theteacherjames

11:30 PM

@cerirhiannon Yes, I like to lead them to the options & tell them they can do what they like as long as it isn't nothing! #eltchat

sandymillin

11:30 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat an element of leading horse to water ... e.g. introducing ss to recording themselves, writing on blogs, keeping vocab records etc

Marisa_C

11:30 PM

But haven;t got it handy - only as a session handout - may do a quick post on this soon #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:30 PM

I also think when they feel like they know what they have to do "outside of class" to learn more they become more autonomous #eltchat

hoprea

11:30 PM

@shaznosel Oh, in Brazil there are many places I could not work at because I've never lived abroad. #eltchat

shaznosel

11:30 PM

@Marisa_C  #eltchat good point - hard to define i guess

antoniaclare

11:30 PM

#eltchat I try 2 offer a variety of different ex types, so each can pick / choose the style they enjoy (watch a video/write a blog/grammar)

bethcagnol

11:30 PM

@kalinagoenglish oh it's just the tip of the iceberg, dear. #ELTCHAT

fal1co318

11:30 PM

RT @cybraryman1: Very important to understand how each of your students learn.  For example: Visual Spatial Learners: http://t.co/kt4kOGYk #ELTchat

sandymillin

11:31 PM

RT @kalinagoenglish: I also think when they feel like they know what they have to do "outside of class" to learn more they become more autonomous #eltchat

hoprea

11:31 PM

@kalinagoenglish Autonomy - isn't this one of our major goals in education? Not easy to get there, though. #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:31 PM

RT @AnthonyGaughan: Overivew article on LLS - lots to take issue with (if you like): http://t.co/5s7htlWv #eltchat

antoniaclare

11:31 PM

RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat leading horse to water e.g. introducing ss to recording themselves, writing on blogs, keeping vocab records etc

EdithOccelli

11:31 PM

RT @BarberDaniel: RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat an element of leading horse 2 water  :) learning journals R gr8 ways 2 aid metacognition

hartle

11:31 PM

RT @kalinagoenglish: Imy learners usually very happy to get tips #eltchat my learners too but to put it into practice. Motivation key

cerirhiannon

11:31 PM

pT @antoniaclare: #eltchat offer variety of different ex types, so each can pick / choose the style they enjoy > absolutely!  choice is imp

EdithOccelli

11:32 PM

@hoprea explicit instruction in learning strategies can help learners become more autonomous #Eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:32 PM

@bethcagnol :-( am glad I'm not teaching there :-( but that's another point- results of SLA is so contextually determined ! #eltchat

cerirhiannon

11:32 PM

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat @hartle   give each other tips   often they have better ideas than the teachers as it's from the L perspective> yes

antoniaclare

11:32 PM

RT @kalinagoenglish: I think when they feel like they know what they have to do "outside of class" they become more autonomous #eltchat>true

hartle

11:32 PM

RT @lauraahaha: @bethcagnol Yeah I think Ss can learn a lot from poor Ts..#ELTCHAT True, but some just learn bad strategies

BarberDaniel

11:32 PM

#eltchat Read somewhr  we learn from peers best, not teachers, so get ss to share LLS in class - a LLSchat if you like - keep out of it!

sandymillin

11:32 PM

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat @hartle  do they give each other tips too?  often they have better ideas than the teachers as it's from the L perspective

lauraahaha

11:32 PM

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat @hartle  do they give each other tips too?  often they have better ideas than the teachers as it's from the L perspective

shaznosel

11:32 PM

RT @hoprea: @kalinagoenglish Autonomy - isn't this one of our major goals in education? Not easy to get there, though. #eltchat

ljp2010

11:32 PM

#ELTchat @hartle  do they give each other tips too?  often they have better ideas than the teachers as it's from the L perspective

Marisa_C

11:33 PM

Only direct evidence I have is comparing two groups of Ss - one was trained to recognise task objectives, other not #eltchat

hoprea

11:33 PM

@Marisa_C @EdithOccelli I couldn't agree more! Still, it's not as simple as some think it is when faced with the word autonomy. #eltchat

hartle

11:33 PM

RT @lauraahaha: @hartle Very true! That's why contrast w/ better co-T can help I think. #ELTCHAT Yes as long as thy recognise the good!

shaznosel

11:33 PM

@bethcagnol  #ELTCHAT true - another problem to face, but surely learning strats apply to all subjects??

dalecoulter

11:33 PM

RT @jemjemgardner: New blog post - http://t.co/YtQFce7G Control yourself (hu)man!! #dogmeelt #eltchat #celta #tdsig #dogme  RTs and comments very welcome!

lauraahaha

11:33 PM

@hartle Very true! That's why contrast w/ better co-T can help I think. #ELTCHAT

AnthonyGaughan

11:33 PM

So  LLSs = "doing stuff"? RT @cerirhiannon: #eltchat introducing ss to recording themselves, writing on blogs, keeping vocab records etc

sandymillin

11:33 PM

I show them examples of my own vocab learning e.g. Coloured notes. All my students have highlighters and coloured pens now! #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:33 PM

RT @hoprea: @kalinagoenglish Autonomy - isn't this one of our major goals in education? extremely difficult! #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:33 PM

RT @EdithOccelli: @hoprea explicit instruction in learning strategies can help learners become more autonomous #Eltchat

Marisa_C

11:34 PM

@hoprea You\re telling me! It's taking a looong time to get Ts to be autonomous, let alone students (from my specific context)  #eltchat

shaznosel

11:34 PM

@englishraven  I do..will be in touch! #Eltchat

bethcagnol

11:34 PM

#ELTCHAT I have that "preaching to the choir feeling" 2nite. Any way we can spread these ideas to Ts who may need it?

ljp2010

11:34 PM

#ELTchat @Marisa_C  a great idea for an action research project :)

BarberDaniel

11:34 PM

@AnthonyGaughan   #eltchat Doing stuff but being explict abt the mechanisms of learning - what works best

sandymillin

11:34 PM

Another: i wrote german words on post-it notes for der, die, das and put on 3 diff windows. They could do same with adj, noun, vb #eltchat

EdithOccelli

11:34 PM

@sandymillin gd Sandy. If U model gd LSS 4 yr students they take them more srsly -because they know U do it yourself- #Eltchat

antoniaclare

11:34 PM

RT @sandymillin: I show egs of my own vocab learning e.g. Coloured notes. All my sts have highlighters and coloured pens now! #eltchat Nice!

cerirhiannon

11:34 PM

@AnthonyGaughan  no not just "doing stuff" at all - but through doing stuff and discussing what works and doesn't can access strats #eltchat

sandymillin

11:35 PM

Today did passives. Suggested students underrline them in the free paper when they find them. Noticing lang important too #eltchat

hartle

11:35 PM

RT @EdithOccelli: RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat Also important 2 explain 2 sts y U do things the way U do, so they understand the strategy (sometimes not obvious

whippler

11:35 PM

#eltchat We've been talking autonomy all week in my UpperInt Class.  The classblog entries this week show it. v proud http://t.co/gP8tsayB

EdithOccelli

11:35 PM

RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat Also important 2 explain 2 sts y U do things the way U do, so they understand the strategy (sometimes not obvious

cerirhiannon

11:35 PM

@Marisa_C @hoprea  not all cultures/contexts value autonomy as an educational goal!  #eltchat

englishraven

11:35 PM

You #eltchat lot look like you're having a right royal chat up! Sorry I missed it... Been frantically 'publishing' /have to go to work! :-))

Marisa_C

11:35 PM

@ljp2010 I did that some years ago with two groups of beginners - results really dramatic in fave of the training  #ELTchat

hoprea

11:35 PM

#eltchat Learning strategies per se do not guarantee success, but they can be very helpful. How many stds don't know how 2 use a dictionary?

AnthonyGaughan

11:35 PM

@cerirhiannon Thought so: but what questions lead to strategies, say, after students blogged? #seriousquestion #eltchat

hartle

11:35 PM

RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat Also important to explain to sts why you do things the way you do, so they understand the strategy (sometimes not obvious)

antoniaclare

11:35 PM

#eltchat Also important to explain to sts why you do things the way you do, so they understand the strategy (sometimes not obvious)

theteacherjames

11:35 PM

RT @bethcagnol: #ELTCHAT I have that "preaching to the choir feeling" 2nite. Any way we can spread these ideas to Ts who may need it?

Shaunwilden

11:36 PM

Evening all :-) #eltchat

hartle

11:36 PM

#eltchat communication and reflection is always useful. Wht Ts see as lesson cn be radically different frm what stds see

EdithOccelli

11:36 PM

But how do you exactly introduce your students to the "concept" of learning strategies?? #Eltchat

cerirhiannon

11:36 PM

@AnthonyGaughan  e.g. discussion of the process behind writing post, what kind of feedback they want, experimenting w diff fb  #eltchat

ljp2010

11:36 PM

#ELTchat @shaznosel i see lots of sts on the bus here highlighting - about 3/4 of the page!

kalinagoenglish

11:36 PM

Rivera-Mills and Plonsky on Language Learning strategies - no concrete tips but worth a read 4 reflection & PD #eltchat http://t.co/HLxlCPVi

shaznosel

11:36 PM

@antoniaclare  #eltchat highlighters are a big thingII tell my ss it;s great to highlight but do they understand what they are highlighting?

theteacherjames

11:36 PM

RT @bethcagnol: #ELTCHAT Any way we can spread these ideas to Ts who may need it? >>Maybe we can start by talking about the benefits for Ss?

hoprea

11:36 PM

@Marisa_C I know exactly what you mean! I've been having a hard time as well... a different context than yours, though. #eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:37 PM

Hello! Sorry I'm late. my tweets dedicated to #eltchat

shaznosel

11:37 PM

@ljp2010  #ELTchat EXACTLY! they highlight everything just to look colourful!

hoprea

11:37 PM

@cerirhiannon @Marisa_C Granted! But I believe that our job is to make students less dependent on teachers as time goes by #eltchat

sandymillin

11:37 PM

RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat Also important to explain to sts why you do things the way you do, so they understand the strategy (sometimes not obvious)

cerirhiannon

11:37 PM

@Shaunwilden  welcome! #eltchat

ljp2010

11:37 PM

#ELTchat @hartle how do you get FB from ur sts?

Marisa_C

11:37 PM

@hoprea Started my first self access - only after I enforced its use did my Ss start practising their autonomy! Lol  #eltchat

AnthonyGaughan

11:37 PM

> what Qs makes LLSs "explicit"? RT @BarberDaniel:  #eltchat Doing stuff but being explict abt the mechanisms of learning - what works best

EdithOccelli

11:37 PM

Hi Shaun #Eltchat

theteacherjames

11:37 PM

@englishraven Hope you can join us again Jason, we miss you here! #eltchat

sandymillin

11:37 PM

@bethcagnol think it's often a lead by example thing. Drop ideas into conversations with other teachers :) #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:38 PM

:-D #eltchat  two more mods have appeared

Shaunwilden

11:38 PM

@theteacherjames Well i see anthony is here so it's bound to have been :-) #eltchat

web20education

11:38 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Here is a link to Rebecca Oxford's great book on Learning Strategies on Google Books http://t.co/SEIoe9me #ELtchat

cerirhiannon

11:38 PM

RT @hoprea: @cerirhiannon @Marisa_C G our job is to make students less dependent on teachers as time goes by #eltchat > totally agree :)

kalinagoenglish

11:38 PM

Nice! RT @whippler: #eltchat been talking autonomy all week in UpperInt Class.  The classblog entries show it. v proud http://t.co/o6fbuVZN

bethcagnol

11:38 PM

RT @hoprea: @cerirhiannon @Marisa_C Granted! But I believe that our job is to make students less dependent on teachers as time goes by #eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:38 PM

RT @Marisa_C: http://t.co/sGt72es2 #ELTchat transcript for making writing activs more stimulating now up in wiki @yitzha_sarwono and @LizziePinard

hartle

11:38 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @hoprea Started my first self access - only after I enforced its use did my Ss start practising their autonomy! Lol  #eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:38 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Here is a link to Rebecca Oxford's great book on Learning Strategies on Google Books http://t.co/SEIoe9me #ELtchat

ShellTerrell

11:38 PM

RT @Marisa_C: I think that most learners are intensely interested in their own learning - so if you decide to do this they usu respond #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:38 PM

can i go to bed now ? #eltchat

lauraahaha

11:38 PM

@sandymillin Also I find just carrying a pen with me everywhere is a good LS! Always ready to jot down interesting lang. #eltchat

antoniaclare

11:38 PM

@AnthonyGaughan discussing whether to focus on accuracy or content?  how to read around topic / expplore similar blogs ...#eltchat

ljp2010

11:38 PM

#ELTchat @shaznosel  so training in skills crucial e.g. key info, summarising

bethcagnol

11:38 PM

@theteacherjames True. :-) #ELTCHAT

hartle

11:38 PM

RT @EdithOccelli: But how do you exactly introduce ...#Eltchat Simply ask them "Whts the best way to learn vocabulary?" fr instance,

theteacherjames

11:38 PM

@Shaunwilden Hi (it's already been mentioned :-) ) #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:38 PM

@hoprea absolutely agree - but have come to realise that even autonomy needs easy steps and stages  #eltchat

web20education

11:38 PM

#Brainshark cloud-based software for creating,sharing,tracking online presentations #edtech20 #elearning #w2s #eltchat http://t.co/KIRrLb6C

lauraahaha

11:38 PM

Gr8 idea! RT @sandymillin: Today did passives+suggested Ss underline the 1s they see in the free paper. Noticing lang important too #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:39 PM

Wow this is getting exciting :-D #eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:39 PM

@Marisa_C Yes sorry marissa - I could have hurried but fish, raik and white wine outside was a bit too tempting #eltchat

sandymillin

11:39 PM

@ljp2010 and i make sure students only highlighting small areas when done in class...or draw a box round it! #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:39 PM

@Shaunwilden Wasn't him, and wasn't me! #eltchat

shaznosel

11:39 PM

@ljp2010  #ELTchat definetly..more important is not how we train those skills but ss understand why..

Marisa_C

11:39 PM

@hoprea Snap!  #eltchat

hartle

11:39 PM

RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat @hartle how do you get FB from ur sts? Class discussion, blogging, office hours, email

ShellTerrell

11:39 PM

RT @Marisa_C: RT @EdithOccelli: I think Learning strategies are steps taken by students to enhance their own learning #Eltchat

hoprea

11:39 PM

@Marisa_C Which is one of the hardest things towards autonomy. It takes training to foster autonomy. It doesn't happen overnight. #eltchat

sandymillin

11:39 PM

@shaznosel i always demonstrate to them how highlighting works by contrasting with unhighlighted page. Discuss what, why to use it #eltchat

ljp2010

11:40 PM

#ELTchat @sandymillin @shaznosel  as with many of the things we do, i guess good models with guidance/noticing go a long way

kalinagoenglish

11:40 PM

Super tip  @shaznosel i  demonstrate how highlighting works by contrasting with unhighlighted page. Discuss what, why use it #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:40 PM

@Shaunwilden no worries - did what i could and everyone helped  #eltchat

shaznosel

11:40 PM

@sandymillin  #eltchat nice!  good point..highlight is to contrast!

sandymillin

11:40 PM

@EdithOccelli normallyndon't discuss them as 'strategies' per se, more 'ideas to help you learn better' #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:41 PM

Also that they see results pretty quickly (with adult learners) @shaznosel: @ljp2010  #ELTchat (re ss understand why.. )

hartle

11:41 PM

#eltchat focusing on vry simple strategies  important too: asking stds: look at a text after listening and find 3 interesting items 2 use

Marisa_C

11:41 PM

RT @BarberDaniel: RT @sandymillin:  'ideas to help you learn better' That's the perfect way to present them to our ss! #eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:41 PM

I think it's important for tchrs to make students aware of the various learner strategies & encourage them to try them out #eltchat

BarberDaniel

11:41 PM

RT @sandymillin:  'ideas to help you learn better' That's the perfect way to present them to our ss! #eltchat

sandymillin

11:41 PM

@Marisa_C #eltchat our FCE course has enforced one hour per day study hour. Students really take advantage of it once i helped them plan it

theteacherjames

11:41 PM

RT @sandymillin: @EdithOccelli normallyndon't discuss them as 'strategies' per se, more 'ideas to help you learn better' #eltchat

hoprea

11:41 PM

#eltchat Teachers have to learn different strategies if they are to pass them on to stds. There's no one right strategy for all.

EdithOccelli

11:42 PM

@sandymillin I asked b/c the topic is how 2 raise awareness of LSS.. & wondered wht U guys did. e.g. mini-workshops? think-alouds? #Eltchat

sandymillin

11:42 PM

What atrategies do you introduce that aren't vocab related? Eg for learning grammar, writing skills...#eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:42 PM

RT @hoprea: #eltchat Teachers have to learn different strategies if they are to pass them on to stds. There's no one right strategy for all.

shaznosel

11:42 PM

@antoniaclare  #eltchat i try to brainstorm topics but find it really hard going, as ss afraid of making personal mistakes. No team spirit..

Marisa_C

11:42 PM

@sandymillin sounds like time well spent then :-)  #eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:42 PM

RT @BarberDaniel: RT @sandymillin:  'ideas to help you learn better' That's the perfect way to present them to our ss! #eltchat

bethcagnol

11:42 PM

RT @ShellTerrell: I think it's important for tchrs to make students aware of the various learner strategies & encourage them to try them out #eltchat

BarberDaniel

11:43 PM

@sandymillin e.g. With grammar, translate directly to see the differences btwn langs #eltchat

whippler

11:43 PM

RT @shaznosel: @ljp2010  #ELTchat definetly..more important is not how we train those skills but ss understand why..

shaznosel

11:43 PM

@ljp2010  #ELTchat absolutely..sometimes you feel like you're hitting your head against a wall..but you get there!

sandymillin

11:43 PM

RT @shaznosel: @sandymillin  #eltchat nice!  good point..highlight is to contrast! <exactly, and to HIGHlight, not colour in!

kalinagoenglish

11:43 PM

Excellent point, some teachers don't know good learning strategies themselves! Should be part of Cert. training? @hoprea: #eltchat

antoniaclare

11:43 PM

#eltchat worth spending time discussing with learners 'what makes a good learner?' 'what do they do?' - gr8 post here http://t.co/hCT6fRlL

cerirhiannon

11:43 PM

#eltchat training ss to notice how language works - patterns, tendencies - in the class, pays off outside  (slightly off topic?)

EdithOccelli

11:43 PM

RT @Marisa_C: One idea - invite one/more successfull ss to give ur ss a pep talk and say what helped them #eltchat

hoprea

11:43 PM

#eltchat I've already heard from teachers that it takes a long time to teach strategies. "Ah, but it saves a lot of time in the near future"

Marisa_C

11:43 PM

One idea - invite one/more successfull ss to give ur ss a pep talk and say what helped them #eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:43 PM

RT @sandymillin:  i make sure students only highlighting small areas when done in class...or draw a box round it! #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:43 PM

@shaznosel @antoniaclare Do they do it in pairs/groups first or as a class? #eltchat

whippler

11:44 PM

RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat worth spending time discussing with learners 'what makes a good learner?' 'what do they do?' - gr8 post here http://t.co/hCT6fRlL

KatySDavies

11:44 PM

#ELTCHAT  tyou could ry to get Ss to think about other things they have learnt in a different context, eg dance / music etc

vale360

11:44 PM

RT @hoprea: #eltchat Teachers have to learn different strategies if they are to pass them on to stds. There's no one right strategy for all.

ethinking

11:44 PM

@ShellTerrell #eltchat disagree - - it essential that learners are forced to confront other learning experiences and learn to take charge

theteacherjames

11:44 PM

RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat worth spending time discussing with learners 'what makes a good learner?' 'what do they do?' - gr8 post here http://t.co/hCT6fRlL

Marisa_C

11:44 PM

@hoprea As someone already pointed out - it's sth to do at various points in our lessons every single time  #eltchat

antoniaclare

11:45 PM

@Marisa_C Yes, good for teacher to help sts set their indiv learning goals, and focus on these #eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:45 PM

Many of us learned without tech strategies but many students use tech. What strategies can they use that are tech based? #eltchat

ProjectAdvance

11:45 PM

Curious as to what #eltchat stands for? Thanks! :)

sandymillin

11:45 PM

#eltchat tried this, but not good for me. Words on index cards, eng-french on diff sides. Put them in part 1 of box. (cont...) #eltchat

hartle

11:45 PM

RT @KatySDavies: #ELTCHAT  tyou could ry to get Ss to think about other things they have learnt in a different context... That works well

Shaunwilden

11:45 PM

@hartle @EdithOccelli I have a lesson on it at the beginning of a course #eltchat

jurylady

11:45 PM

RT @hoprea: #eltchat Teachers have to learn different strategies if they are to pass them on to stds. There's no one right strategy for all.

360_People

11:45 PM

RT @Marisa_C: I think that most learners are intensely interested in their own learning - so if you decide to do this they usu respond #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:45 PM

I also like the idea pf progress tutorials with ss - tracking their progress so to speak - #eltchat e,g, how u doing with ur reading speed?

sandymillin

11:46 PM

(...cont) if remembered, move to part 2, then 3 next time etc. up to 5 sections. If remembered in sect 5, take out of box (...cont) #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:46 PM

@AnthonyGaughan cheers Anthony see u soon  #eltchat

hoprea

11:46 PM

@kalinagoenglish I most certainly believe so. We can't foster autonomy if we only repeat what we're told to do. #eltchat

ljp2010

11:46 PM

#ELTchat @ShellTerrell  e.g. google search to spot common collocations?

AnthonyGaughan

11:46 PM

Have to cut and run - thanks @antoniaclare  @cerirhiannon @barberDaniel @hartle 4 answers and @Marisa_C 4 single-handed moderation! #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:46 PM

@hartle I think some strats can carry over to L2 learning but not all - still good place to start from  #ELTCHAT

EdithOccelli

11:46 PM

how about having ss "tweet" or write a tip for their classmates each.. something that has worked for you to learn Eng? #Eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:46 PM

RT @Marisa_C: One idea - invite one/more successfull ss to give ur ss a pep talk and say what helped them #eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:46 PM

RT @hoprea: #eltchat I've already heard from teachers that it takes a long time to teach strategies. "Ah, but it saves a lot of time in the near future"

kalinagoenglish

11:46 PM

Hmm, sometimes "good" students aren't confident about public speaking!  Could face firingsquad @edithoccelli (re pep talk) #eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:46 PM

RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat worth spending time discussing with learners 'what makes a good learner?' 'what do they do?' - gr8 post here http://t.co/hCT6fRlL

sandymillin

11:47 PM

(...cont) if ever forgotten, put back in section 1. Good for recycling, but had 1000 cards i. Fnch and german after 2 years! #eltchat

hartle

11:47 PM

RT @ShellTerrell: What strategies can they use that are tech based? #eltchat reading and sharing, curating, blogging, ... long list #eltchat

shaznosel

11:47 PM

@hoprea  #eltchat so right..we are all different and all learnin diff ways so diff strats needed ..but time is sooooo short!

ShellTerrell

11:47 PM

Nice! RT @ljp2010: #ELTchat  e.g. google search to spot common collocations?

BarberDaniel

11:47 PM

Bye ANthony #eltchat

antoniaclare

11:47 PM

@AnthonyGaughan Thanks for the comments - bye #eltchat

jurylady

11:48 PM

RT @ShellTerrell: I think it's important for tchrs to make students aware of the various learner strategies & encourage them to try them out #eltchat

EdithOccelli

11:48 PM

@harrisonmike Thanks Harrison I'll look it up #Eltchat

sandymillin

11:48 PM

Another one...recorded words in german and english on dictaphone, with sentence. Then listened on way to/from uni each day. Gd 4 me #eltchat

antoniaclare

11:48 PM

RT @EdithOccelli: how about having ss "tweet" or write a tip for classmates.. something that has worked for you to learn Eng? #Eltchat Nice!

harrisonmike

11:48 PM

@EdithOccelli there's a great activity in Teaching Unplugged for sharing learner tips - called 'My English' #eltchat

whippler

11:49 PM

#eltchat Autonomous learning sounds is not *solo* ALL learning is socially situated at its core.  Back me up, @vygotsky

sandymillin

11:49 PM

RT @hoprea: #eltchat I've already heard from teachers that it takes a long time to teach strategies. "Ah, but it saves a lot of time in the near future"

hartle

11:49 PM

#eltchat English vocabulary Profile gr8t resource for vocab. http://t.co/sECE9pE4

theteacherjames

11:49 PM

@kalinagoenglish @edithoccelli I'm very against Ss doing presentations to class unless they particularly need them for business etc #eltchat

sandymillin

11:49 PM

@EdithOccelli mostly rai awareness by demonstrating them wherever and whenever they fit into class #eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:49 PM

RT @hartle: RT @ShellTerrell: What strategies can they use that are tech based? #eltchat reading and sharing, curating, blogging, ... long list #eltchat

hoprea

11:49 PM

@shaznosel Isn't that why adults are more likely to reflect on their learning? They've been through lots of learning experiences. #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:49 PM

@ShellTerrell  #eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:49 PM

@ethinking yes they do need autonomy but not sure what part of the statement you disagree? The try part? #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:50 PM

RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat discuss with learners 'what makes a good learner?' 'what do they do?' - gr8 post here http://t.co/iqZB8Cjq

cerirhiannon

11:50 PM

RT @sandymillin: @EdithOccelli mostly rai awareness by demonstrating them wherever and whenever they fit into class #eltchat

sandymillin

11:50 PM

RT @BarberDaniel: @sandymillin e.g. With grammar, translate directly to see the differences btwn langs #eltchat

harrisonmike

11:50 PM

@theteacherjames or exams? Could be the 'talk for a minute' about x type of activity they need to prep for. Why not do so w a preso #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:50 PM

RT @antoniaclare: RT @EdithOccelli: how about having ss "tweet" or write a tip for classmates.. something that has worked for you to learn Eng? #Eltchat Nice!

hartle

11:50 PM

RT @theteacherjames: @kalinagoenglish @edithoccelli I'm very against Ss doing presentations to class... #eltchat Why?

sandymillin

11:50 PM

@kalinagoenglish learner strategies should definitely be part of teacher training, esp for those who've never studied langs #eltchat

antoniaclare

11:50 PM

#eltchat another link - cognitive vs metacognitive strategies + good Lang learner strategies http://t.co/fokDtEQj

theteacherjames

11:50 PM

RT @harrisonmike: @EdithOccelli there's a great activity in Teaching Unplugged for sharing learner tips - called 'My English' #eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:50 PM

There are many highlighting features in ebooks or notetaking sites online  #eltchat

ljp2010

11:50 PM

#ELTchat @hoprea  but if you give kids  tools and they're interested they'll learn...

Marisa_C

11:50 PM

@hartle u need apassword for that #eltchat

toulasklavou

11:50 PM

i think sometimes autonomy and learning strategies do not go with havin to cover whole pages of books,t has to try hard #eltchat

EdithOccelli

11:50 PM

RT @sandymillin: @EdithOccelli mostly rai awareness by demonstrating them wherever and whenever they fit into class #eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:51 PM

Many of our students will read online or learn English online so how do we teach them learner strategies to help with this?  #eltchat

antoniaclare

11:51 PM

@toulasklavou perhaps it's something you can direct them towards for outside the class? #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:51 PM

@antoniaclare snap re good learners - have a quaire to share soon  #eltchat

EdithOccelli

11:51 PM

@theteacherjames y? dont U think they cn learn from each other? it doesn't have 2 B in front of.. U cn make littl discussion groups #Eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:51 PM

@toulasklavou But doesnt make the sts autonomous mean they dont have to do evey page with you? #eltchat

hartle

11:51 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @hartle u need apassword for that #eltchat Yes but free subscription

KatySDavies

11:51 PM

@sandymillin  #eltchat my Ss got their mobiles out and recorded me saying the vocab, and used an audio list to revise and liked it

sandymillin

11:51 PM

RT @KatySDavies: #ELTCHAT  tyou could ry to get Ss to think about other things they have learnt in a different context, eg dance / music etc

shaznosel

11:51 PM

@hoprea  #eltchat yes, i agree and for our yls..that's why we need to support and understand their needs..

KatySDavies

11:52 PM

@EdithOccelli  #eltchat projects that force them to meet up outside class can then blossom into them meeting up more independently

Marisa_C

11:52 PM

@hartle will check again later wouldn t let me in  #eltchat

hartle

11:52 PM

#eltchat sorry use this link for English Vocabulary Profile http://t.co/kZTa9hX8

sandymillin

11:52 PM

@ShellTerrell use quizlet! My students have really taken to it, and i can see the difference. Took a lot of effort from me though! #eltchat

hoprea

11:52 PM

RT @ShellTerrell: Many of our students will read online or learn English online so how do we teach them learner strategies to help with this?  #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:52 PM

AGREE James - can be demotivating, depending on context/location/culture @theteacherjames @EdithOccelli re presentations to class #eltchat

sandymillin

11:53 PM

@EdithOccelli my students wrote essays on how to study english #eltchat http://t.co/1cO8Ehuo

naomishema

11:53 PM

Control yourself, (hu)man!  http://t.co/diQXsxOk /via @wordpressdotcom #eltchat #dogme

hartle

11:53 PM

RT @ShellTerrell: Awesome RT @KatySDavies: my Ss got their mobiles out, recorded me saying the vocab, & used an audio list to revise and liked it #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:53 PM

@ShellTerrell  #eltchat digital learning strategies part of the menu as well - true

hartle

11:53 PM

RT @hartle: #eltchat sorry use this link for English Vocabulary Profile http://t.co/kZTa9hX8 @Marisa_C

ShellTerrell

11:53 PM

Awesome RT @KatySDavies: my Ss got their mobiles out, recorded me saying the vocab, & used an audio list to revise and liked it #eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:54 PM

I love Quizlet RT @sandymillin: use quizlet! My students have really taken to it,I can see the difference #eltchat

harrisonmike

11:54 PM

@kalinagoenglish @EdithOccelli @theteacherjames what about presentations in small grps. Doesn't have to be to whole class. #eltchat

OseiasELT

11:54 PM

TO BE SNOWED UNDER = having too much work to do; overworked. I.g. Look, I'm snowed under with work now #hdisie #breltchat #eltchat #idiom

shaznosel

11:54 PM

@Marisa_C  #eltchat yes ..have realised that even with YLs..it is a good strategy to encourage stronger ss to speak to weaker ss

cerirhiannon

11:54 PM

RT @Marisa_C: @ShellTerrell  #eltchat digital learning strategies part of the menu as well - true > even more imp possibly if only online

kalinagoenglish

11:54 PM

Depends on age, culture etc - but many would be "hated" not "admired" - best for tips to come from entire class collaboratively #eltchat

theteacherjames

11:54 PM

@EdithOccelli Little discussion groups is much better, then they can definitely peer teach. #Eltchat

BarberDaniel

11:54 PM

Article on what a classroom might be like with LLS sharing going on #eltchat  http://t.co/XnV7q2ty

whippler

11:55 PM

RT @theteacherjames: @EdithOccelli Little discussion groups is much better, then they can definitely peer teach. #Eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:55 PM

RT @theteacherjames: Little discussion groups is much better, then they can definitely peer teach. #Eltchat

Shaunwilden

11:55 PM

@ShellTerrell @sandymillin  And I like the fact that quizlet works thru apps as well so you can study on the move #eltchat

lauraahaha

11:55 PM

@ShellTerrell There's a terrific feature on new Macs to look up words while browsing just by triple-tapping #eltchat http://t.co/wUbU8BhV

Marisa_C

11:55 PM

Mentoring other Ss is good for this too #eltchat - the paradox of learning is u learn it better when u have to teach someone

theteacherjames

11:55 PM

@harrisonmike It's the public nature of it I don't like. I think they're useless & demotivating for some. Small groups much better #eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:55 PM

RT @sandymillin: my students wrote essays on how to study english #eltchat http://t.co/nKHln69D

sandymillin

11:55 PM

Used to have a night per lang at uni to meet with friends and talk over ou classes and anything we had trouble with. So useful! #eltchat

hartle

11:55 PM

RT @naomishema:  http://t.co/NUIASdk3 /via @wordpressdotcom #eltchat #dogme Great posts & excellent English :-)

kalinagoenglish

11:55 PM

Great idea! @sandymillin: @EdithOccelli my students wrote essays on how to study english #eltchat http://t.co/TkE7ZjeQ

whippler

11:55 PM

#eltchat Best way to get Ls and Ts to reapproach is turn the tables with self assessment http://t.co/tnB7dyZ4 I love this document and EU

KatySDavies

11:55 PM

@ShellTerrell #eltchat have you tried the blanking out exercise, to black out words they don't know, to sho… (cont) http://t.co/eFqtmGSp

sandymillin

11:56 PM

RT @KatySDavies: @EdithOccelli  #eltchat projects that force them to meet up outside class can then blossom into them meeting up more independently

hartle

11:56 PM

RT @harrisonmike: @kalinagoenglish @EdithOccelli @theteacherjames what about presentations in small grps..#eltchat Agree

theteacherjames

11:56 PM

RT @sandymillin: @EdithOccelli my students wrote essays on how to study english #eltchat http://t.co/1cO8Ehuo

antoniaclare

11:56 PM

@theteacherjames or perhaps get sts to record their presentations as podcasts and put in class blog, so they don't all have 2 watch #eltchat

ShellTerrell

11:56 PM

RT @shaznosel:  #eltchat yes ..have realised that even with YLs..it is a good strategy to encourage stronger ss to speak to weaker ss

cerirhiannon

11:56 PM

RT @kalinagoenglish: Great idea! @sandymillin: @EdithOccelli my students wrote essays on how to study english #eltchat http://t.co/TkE7ZjeQ

sandymillin

11:56 PM

RT @KatySDavies: @sandymillin  #eltchat my Ss got their mobiles out and recorded me saying the vocab, and used an audio list to revise and liked it

hartle

11:57 PM

RT @Marisa_C: Mentoring other Ss is good for this too #eltchat - the paradox of learning is u learn it better when u have to teach someone

hoprea

11:57 PM

#eltchat  Not sure you'll agree with me, but working in groups is a skill that has to be taught. Most students don't know how to do it.

ShellTerrell

11:57 PM

Yes! RT @Shaunwilden: And I like the fact that quizlet works thru apps as well so you can study on the move #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:57 PM

RT @hartle: RT @harrisonmike: @kalinagoenglish @EdithOccelli @theteacherjames presentations in small grps..#eltchat yes & rehearsals

kalinagoenglish

11:57 PM

RT @whippler: #eltchat Get Ls and Ts to reapproach with self assessment http://t.co/hrqgJqku…

EdithOccelli

11:58 PM

So explicit instruction, modelling as they arise, doing a lesson on that, discussion groups, surveys, learning journals, etc.. #Eltchat

sandymillin

11:58 PM

RT @antoniaclare: @theteacherjames or perhaps get sts to record their presentations as podcasts and put in class blog, so they don't all have 2 watch #eltchat

KatySDavies

11:58 PM

@hoprea #eltchat totally agree and not everyone likes it

ShellTerrell

11:58 PM

I like teaching students about bookmarking sites like Diigo & Delicious! Helps them take tier favorites anywhere & highlight #eltchat

sandymillin

11:58 PM

@Shaunwilden quizlet apps are good too, though wish they would make their own with some of the other games, not just flashcards #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:58 PM

RT @harrisonmike: @EdithOccelli there's a great activity in Teaching Unplugged for sharing learner tips - called 'My English' #eltchat

Marisa_C

11:58 PM

@hoprea agree - collaborating and language and moves for good collaboration need to be taught too  #eltchat

harrisonmike

11:58 PM

@sandymillin @EdithOccelli or just encourage them to do small things outside class. Quick phone calls to each others in Eng #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:58 PM

@harrisonmike small groups, yes :-) takes the pressure and attention off #eltchat

shaznosel

11:59 PM

@ShellTerrell  #eltchat adult learners thrive on tech based strategies to become more independent/ autonomous but yls need physical praise

Learn4work

11:59 PM

β€@ShellTerrell: RT @theteacherjames: Little discussion groups is much better, then they can definitely peer teach. #Eltchatβ€ I fully agree

sandymillin

11:59 PM

@harrisonmike or chat to each other on facebook in english. Good for my multilingual group :) #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

11:59 PM

Suspect culturally dependent @hoprea: #eltchat  re working in groups is a skill that has to be taught. (Some) students do know how to do it.

toulasklavou

11:59 PM

@shaznosel @Marisa_C as long as they don't indimidate them!have experienced that!#eltchat

theteacherjames

11:59 PM

Couldn't we include less concrete strategies? Fostering a love of literature, reading the news daily, listening to the news? #ELTChat

harrisonmike

11:59 PM

@hoprea  and raise awareness of different group roles too #eltchat

hartle

12:01 AM

#eltchat Afraid it's bedtime 4 me now. Night everyone, and thnx for thought provoking discussion as ever :-)

whippler

12:03 AM

#eltchat Autonomy needs to be separated.  L chooses what to study and finds own assessment, improvement cycle -or- L works on hmwk.  Define?

whippler

12:09 AM

#eltchat Goodnight and thanks.

ShellTerrell

12:06 AM

#eltchat RT @DrRanaAG: I am preparing a wesite for tecahing learning strategies as a part of my PhD u can navigate it http://t.co/EMNJ6M1B

antoniaclare

12:04 AM

#eltchat That's it from me too - been to Taekwondo and fading a little now ;)  Thanks for great chat everyone ;)

shaznosel

12:10 AM

#eltchat yep! Getting late here too! Goodnight and thanks for making me use my brain after a long day!!

ljp2010

12:01 AM

#ELTchat yep, back into the fray.  chau chicos!  until next week

sandymillin

12:10 AM

#eltpics this week is all about science. Tweet us your pics and we'll add them! #eltchat #efl #elt #esl

shaznosel

12:04 AM

@antoniaclare @kalinagoenglish  #eltchat group work difficult if  in your everyday life it is not encouraged - brainstormg is diff in Greece

theteacherjames

12:06 AM

@antoniaclare Taekwondo? I have a red belt, we should spar sometime! #eltchat

theteacherjames

12:00 AM

@antoniaclare Yes, that's much better. Turn it into a listening activity "summarise the main idea" etc #eltchat

Marisa_C

12:03 AM

@BarberDaniel that ur first one? Good to have you - thanks for the good links - come back :-)  #eltchat

Marisa_C

12:08 AM

@EdithOccelli cheers - will talk to u soon  #Eltchat

theteacherjames

12:03 AM

@EdithOccelli That's a fair distinction, although I prefer to emphasize the more informal way. #Eltchat

ShellTerrell

12:00 AM

@ethinking inspire yes but I think with groups who are new to all this it might scare them to push too much or it overwhelms them #eltchat

sandymillin

12:02 AM

@harrisonmike or they could text if no pc access #eltchat just switching phone to eng helps if literate

antoniaclare

12:00 AM

@hoprea True - some don't want to talk in pairs (another gr8 post http://t.co/1HtVXjQf) all part of the learning strategy #eltchat

hoprea

12:01 AM

@kalinagoenglish Not sure it's culturally dependent, or if it's more related to personality... #eltchat

BarberDaniel

12:04 AM

@Marisa_C  #eltchat will do

EdithOccelli

12:12 AM

@Marisa_C  If no one asks it I'll do.. but as last recourse jaja would be second in row jaja #Eltchat

cerirhiannon

12:06 AM

@Marisa_C  thank YOU Marisa :)  #eltchat

theteacherjames

12:11 AM

@Marisa_C Oh dear... I hope you get the rest you deserve. #ELTChat

theteacherjames

12:09 AM

@Marisa_C Pleasure. You did a great job this evening, now you can go to bed! #ELTChat

harrisonmike

12:00 AM

@sandymillin if they are tech savvy, then yes. I deal with sts with low levels of pc literacy so more difficult to facebook #eltchat

Marisa_C

12:06 AM

@Shaunwilden @ShellTerrell  #eltchatThank you both for turning up - I think I wasn't able to follow everyone's comments  #eltchat

ShellTerrell

12:02 AM

@shaznosel usually I have the most difficult time with adults & tech whereas my 4 to 10 yr olds loved tech #eltchat

shaznosel

12:06 AM

@ShellTerrell  #eltchat umm..depends on the culture. Most of my Yls do not have computers as parents worried abt 'bad' influences of tech!!

lauraahaha

12:01 AM

@shellterrell #eltchat Tech tip for Ss reading online: triple-tap feature on new Macs. Sorry pic didn't work… (cont) http://t.co/ZzXwkHLK

Shaunwilden

12:05 AM

@ShellTerrell Nothing to do with me, big thanks to @Marisa_C for holding the fort  #eltchat

EdithOccelli

12:01 AM

@theteacherjames  I see those more as atitudes than specifc strategies. E.g. mnemonics, highlighting, mindmaps, lexical notebooks.. #Eltchat

antoniaclare

12:02 AM

@theteacherjames exactly - nice idea #eltchat

EdithOccelli

12:07 AM

@theteacherjames I'm 2nd Dan! Anyone else?? wow many TKD's here #Eltchat

Marisa_C

12:10 AM

@theteacherjames No - can't I'm afraid - gottalotodo that can't wait :-(  #ELTChat

Marisa_C

12:00 AM

@theteacherjames sure - that would go under 'how can i learn in my own time?' autonomy?  #ELTChat

Marisa_C

12:07 AM

@theteacherjames Thanks for your steady and everpresent support James :-) much appreciated #ELTChat

sandymillin

12:00 AM

@theteacherjames those less concrete things good too. Try to introduce students to range of tv for example, find sth they cn follow #eltchat

Marisa_C

12:09 AM

@toulasklavou cheers Toulino  #eltchat

theteacherjames

12:01 AM

@toulasklavou Well they don't have to do them in their NL. I ask them to replace them with Eng versions for a while. #eltchat

Marisa_C

12:10 AM

Anyone willing to do this summary please? #Eltchat Prettty please?

Marisa_C

12:05 AM

Cheers everyone and thanks for joining :-) #eltchat - ood buzz tonight

jasonoutthere

12:03 AM

Disruptive Innovation in #ELT #esl #tefl #efl #esol #elearning #tesol #eltchat #iatefl #studyenglish http://t.co/ByLdweEM

EnglishOutThere

12:03 AM

Disruptive Innovation in #ELT #esl #tefl #efl #esol #elearning #tesol #eltchat #iatefl #studyenglish http://t.co/M9phgAJy

kalinagoenglish

12:01 AM

Don't forget many have these already, in their own langs! We can foster transferral of hobbies + interests tho' @theteacherjames #ELTChat

lauraahaha

12:04 AM

Goodnight #eltchat !

cerirhiannon

12:09 AM

great #eltchat - thanks everyone ... now it's time to put the finishing touches to my TESOL Spain proposal

theteacherjames

12:07 AM

Great job tonight @Marisa_C  - thanks!  #ELTChat

whippler

12:07 AM

Like this @barberdaniel: Article on what a classroom might be like with LLS sharing going on #eltchat http://t.co/ToYfwuqm

hoprea

12:09 AM

Many thanks for a nice chat at #eltchat I got it in the middle, but it's always a nice chat! :)

sandymillin

12:11 AM

Night all #eltchat Who's doing the summary?

kalinagoenglish

12:05 AM

RT @barberdaniel: Article on what a classroom might be like with LLS sharing going on #eltchat  http://t.co/3mgJWpL9

Marisa_C

12:02 AM

RT @BarberDaniel: RT @Marisa_C:  - > nice> see re  autonomy  http://t.co/9bhI5CA6 #eltchat

cerirhiannon

12:00 AM

RT @hoprea: #eltchat   working in groups is a skill that has to be taught. Most students don't know how to do it. > yes needs fostering

theteacherjames

12:01 AM

RT @kalinagoenglish: Don't forget many have these already, in their own langs! We can foster transferral of hobbies + interests tho' @theteacherjames #ELTChat

EdithOccelli

12:01 AM

RT @kalinagoenglish: dont forget many have ths alrdy, in their own langs! We cn foster transferral of hobbies + interests tho' #ELTChat

Marisa_C

12:05 AM

RT @kalinagoenglish: RT @barberdaniel: Article on... sharing going on #eltchat  http://t.co/uQxL6irH #eltchat

cerirhiannon

12:02 AM

RT @kalinagoenglish: Suspect culturally dependent @hoprea: #eltchat  re working in groups is a skill that has to be taught. (Some) students do know how to do it.

cerirhiannon

12:02 AM

RT @kalinagoenglish: True, very true @hoprea: @kalinagoenglish Not sure it's culturally dependent, or if it's more related to personality... #eltchat

ShellTerrell

12:03 AM

RT @KatySDavies: #eltchat have you tried the blanking out exercise, to black out words they don't know, to sho… (cont) http://t.co/6j4jqkRh

ShellTerrell

12:02 AM

RT @lauraahaha: a terrific feature on new Macs to look up words while browsing just by triple-tapping #eltchat http://t.co/58dKs9ai

BarberDaniel

12:01 AM

RT @Marisa_C:  - that would go under 'how can i learn in my own time?' autonomy?  #ELTChat see #eltchat  - htt… (cont) http://t.co/MNEXuPXz

ShellTerrell

12:11 AM

RT @Marisa_C: Anyone willing to do this summary please? #Eltchat Prettty please?

ShellTerrell

12:11 AM

RT @sandymillin: #eltpics this week is all about science. Tweet us your pics and we'll add them! #eltchat #efl #elt #esl

kylieford

12:04 AM

RT @ShellTerrell: RT @lauraahaha: a terrific feature on new Macs to look up words while browsing just by triple-tapping #eltchat http://t.co/58dKs9ai

ShellTerrell

12:09 AM

RT @theteacherjames: @Marisa_C Pleasure. You did a great job this evening, now you can go to bed! #ELTChat

cerirhiannon

12:01 AM

RT @theteacherjames: Couldn't we include less concrete strategies? Fostering a love of literature, reading the news daily, listening to the news? #ELTChat

BarberDaniel

12:03 AM

Thanks everyone - really enjoyed my first chat :o) Night! #eltchat

ShellTerrell

12:04 AM

Thanks for another great #eltchat and @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden for their great moderating skills

kalinagoenglish

12:02 AM

True, very true @hoprea: @kalinagoenglish Not sure it's culturally dependent, or if it's more related to personality... #eltchat

web20education

12:11 AM

Web 2.0 Summit #w2s Points of Control Map #w2smap http://t.co/XxuirSYt #semanticweb #socialmedia #curation #edtech20 #edchat #eltchat #sm

EdithOccelli

12:08 AM

yea thanks to all moderators. Have a tight night everyone! #Eltchat