| username |
time |
status |
| Marisa_C |
9:00 PM |
For the nest hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat - We are taling about Student Engagement in Receptive Skills Lessons - Ready? |
| ELTExperiences |
9:01 PM |
I am ready and can I ask if we could determine for those unaware what 'receptive' skills are? #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
9:02 PM |
@Shaunwilden and @Marisa_C your moderators - please ask us for help and remember to use #ELTchat hashtag when you tweet! |
| Shaunwilden |
9:02 PM |
RT @ELTExperiences: I am ready and can I ask if we could determine for those unaware what 'receptive' skills are? #ELTChat |
| cunningcanis |
9:02 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Ok every one got their drinks of choice now? Can we begin? #eltchat |
| ELTExperiences |
9:03 PM |
@Shaunwilden @harrisonmike I second that assertion. #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:03 PM |
@harrisonmike @ELTExperiences Thats what I'd say #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:03 PM |
@esolcourses HI sue #ELTchat |
| esolcourses |
9:03 PM |
RT @Marisa_C For the nest hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat - We are talking about Student Engagement in Receptive Skills Lessons |
| Marisa_C |
9:03 PM |
@SueAnnan Hello Jersey - hello from Athens Greece everyone! #ELTchat |
| harrisonmike |
9:03 PM |
@ELTExperiences reading and listening? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:04 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: just forgot to use hashtag shame on me #eltchat |
| ELTExperiences |
9:04 PM |
But there are different approaches for listening and reading #ELTChat |
| harrisonmike |
9:04 PM |
@Marisa_C basically, personalisation, then, is what's needed. #ELTchat over? ;o) lol just kidding |
| Shaunwilden |
9:04 PM |
And much harder to teach well than many teachers think :-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:04 PM |
So, @Raquel_EFL why did you feel this was an important topic? Do you finf coursebook mats and activies not engaging? :-) #ELTchat |
| ELTExperiences |
9:04 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: so receptive skills : listening and reading #ELTChat |
| naomishema |
9:05 PM |
#eltchat - Hello all! is this chat going to be about listening comprehension? Not exactly something I do, you know! LOL!! |
| cerirhiannon |
9:05 PM |
RT @ELTExperiences: different approaches for listening and reading #ELTChat > maybe some common ground 2 eg setting clear task? |
| SueAnnan |
9:05 PM |
and there are many subskills involved too #ELTchat |
| teacher_prix |
9:06 PM |
RT @Marisa_C For the nest hour my tweets will be dedicated to #ELTchat - We are talking about Student Engagement in Receptive Skills Lessons |
| Marisa_C |
9:06 PM |
@harrisonmike No not over by far #ELTchat |
| eannegrenoble |
9:06 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Evening all (listening and reading much harder to teach well than many teachers think :-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:06 PM |
@naomishema Listening and reading skills lessons #eltchat |
| barbarabujtas |
9:07 PM |
hi everyone, |
| Dru_Step |
9:07 PM |
Haven't blogged or taken part in #eltchat for weeks. Rehearsals for #medea @crescenttheatre taken over my life. Less than 2 weeks. Eek! |
| harrisonmike |
9:07 PM |
Accessibility is prob one thing most don't consider much - dyslexia, hearing probs, poor eyesight all shud be considered #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:07 PM |
@harrisonmike @Marisa_C No there's more ot it than that , dealing with all those pesky subskills takes more than personalisation #eltchat |
| ELTExperiences |
9:07 PM |
Some teachers go back to their default teaching method for approaching listening and reading: testing knowledge. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:08 PM |
@barbarabujtas You think? I find most priming activities pretty boring #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:08 PM |
@barbarabujtas I think they tend to follow a tried and tested formula that only go so far #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:08 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: Accessibility is prob one thing most don't consider much - dyslexia, hearing probs, poor eyesight all shud be considered #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:08 PM |
@Shaunwilden Indeed - some peskier than others and some a complete mystery to many materials designers :-) (of published mats) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:09 PM |
@esolcourses am glad you said that I thought it was just me #eltchat |
| theteacherjames |
9:09 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: @Shaunwilden @marisa_c Philida Schellekens says sub skills approach to reading doesn't really work, esp. for ESOL sts #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:09 PM |
@esolcourses Yeah, and I was thinking may be people are sleepy #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:09 PM |
@harrisonmike I disagree though. Have students who can get gist and miss detail #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:09 PM |
@Marisa_C u mean reading and listening skills by recepetive skills ? #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
9:09 PM |
twitter moving as slowly as a sedated snail for me tonight :-( will try to follow, but apols in adv if I don't join in much #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:09 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: @Shaunwilden @marisa_c Philida Schellekens says sub skills approach to reading doesn't really work, esp. for ESOL sts #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
9:09 PM |
@Shaunwilden @marisa_c Philida Schellekens says sub skills approach to reading doesn't really work, esp. for ESOL sts #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:10 PM |
self-esteem, investment, a reason to read / listen/ view has ot be there first as a starting point #eltchat |
| ELTExperiences |
9:10 PM |
@harrisonmike I agree with this Mike but there are many skills of listening that sts and teachers should be aware of. #ELTChat |
| ELTExperiences |
9:10 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: More important to be able to decode the stream of sound into words when listening than when listening for gist or spec meaning? #eltchat |
| barbarabujtas |
9:10 PM |
@Marisa_C i mostly do 1-2-1, they just can't be bored :D |
| naomishema |
9:10 PM |
@esolcourses #eltchat also having problems with twitter |
| harrisonmike |
9:10 PM |
More important to be able to decode the stream of sound into words when listening than when listening for gist or spec meaning? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:10 PM |
@PrettyButWise Correct #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:10 PM |
@harrisonmike So you would advocate a more holistic approach? #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
9:11 PM |
#ELTchat - rpt with # - extensive reading (reading for pleasure - all levels) NOT the same as intensive reading (cf classroom) |
| SueAnnan |
9:11 PM |
@Marisa_C I think both are important for student development #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:11 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: So we are talking about class reading and listening not self access taks I guess #eltchat > receptive skills lessons, no? |
| PrettyButWise |
9:11 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: Accessibility is prob one thing most don't consider much - dyslexia, hearing probs, poor eyesight all shud be considered #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:11 PM |
So we are talking about class reading and listening not self access taks I guess #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
9:11 PM |
@Shaunwilden yep. Research says that you need to understand 90+% of a text before being able to transfer reading strategy skills #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:11 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: self-esteem, investment, a reason to read / listen/ view has ot be there first as a starting point #eltchat I agree |
| Shaunwilden |
9:11 PM |
@harrisonmike hang on am confused, your previous tweet was refering to reading #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:12 PM |
@SueAnnan Sure both are important but we need to agree whether we cover both in and out of class activities #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
9:12 PM |
@Shaunwilden sorry, I am jumping around. Will try to be more coherent from now on! #eltchat |
| naomishema |
9:12 PM |
#eltchat @harrisonmike My pupils learn to answer reading comp. Q about text where they know 30% of vocab using a dictionary. |
| ELTExperiences |
9:12 PM |
@harrisonmike @Shaunwilden but this can be lower when considering connectionism theory. Sts can decode via massive exposure #ELTChat. |
| Shaunwilden |
9:12 PM |
@harrisonmike Well i'll fly in the face of that research though I dont disagree that dealing with the text a whole isnt useful #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:12 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: So we are talking about class reading and listening not self access taks I guess #eltchat |
| teacher_prix |
9:12 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: self-esteem, investment, a reason to read / listen/ view has ot be there first as a starting point #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:13 PM |
@SueAnnan Exactly #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:13 PM |
I think the topic asks HOW can we do this so a question of how we can stage manage lessons that finish in class or continue outside #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
9:13 PM |
@Shaunwilden didn't say it wasn't useful. It's the questions in assessment and the vocal that aren't fair #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:13 PM |
@harrisonmike No thats ok, was just putting together a counter argument than found I agreed with you on listening :-) #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
9:13 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: self-esteem, investment, a reason to read / listen/ view has tobe there first as a starting point #eltchat ] yes, agree |
| SueAnnan |
9:13 PM |
@Marisa_C k. I think we're discussing class time here #eltchat |
| ljp2010 |
9:14 PM |
#eltchat hi everyone. bit late, will try to catch up |
| Shaunwilden |
9:14 PM |
@harrisonmike Ah well most testing is unfair isn't it #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:14 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: self-esteem, investment, a reason to read / listen/ view has ot be there first as a starting point #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:14 PM |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C But surely we need to consider how we can help sts out of class too? #eltchat |
| barbarabujtas |
9:14 PM |
each learner is so unique in terms of perception, their subskills, the proportion of top-down and bttm-up approaches are individual #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:15 PM |
@SueAnnan Yes though it doesnt hurt to focus explicitly on how they can apply then outside of class #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
9:15 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: so back to engagement - students need to know why they're reading/listening - preferably have a personal investment in the topic...#eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:15 PM |
@Shaunwilden I think in a one-hour chat we should focus on the "engae" part - we can't possibly cover all aspects of topic #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
9:15 PM |
@Marisa_C cool. Get sts reading for pleasure. Don't ask them2read what they wouldn't in their L1. Read easier texts than the level #ELTchat |
| DinaDobrou |
9:15 PM |
Hi all. I just got home. What's on the menu 2nite? :) #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:15 PM |
so back to engagement - students need to know why they're reading/listening - preferably have a personal investment in the topic...#eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:15 PM |
@Shaunwilden I think that if we give them startegies in class it should spill over to outside #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:16 PM |
@Marisa_C I know I'll pay for this but for me motivating therm out of class is the engaging part :-) #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:16 PM |
@barbarabujtas I think I need to understand what u mean by top-down and bottom-up approaches ? And subskills? #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:16 PM |
a clear task to complete, reasons 2re-read /listen again intensively, a chance to access/share their personal response to the text #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
9:16 PM |
@Marisa_C this will help develop reading fluency, and the rest is a matter of fine tuning, I think. See Richard Day #eltchat |
| naomishema |
9:16 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden I think in a one-hour chat we should focus on the "engae" part - we can't possibly cover all aspects of topic #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:17 PM |
@Shaunwilden No, I find what you say cool - don't disagree #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
9:17 PM |
The value of extensive reading - Richard Day http://t.co/qI01sv4r #eltchat |
| cathywint |
9:17 PM |
Hello #eltchat joining u from the bus station in Huddersfield. What's the tipi tonight? Reading? |
| cerirhiannon |
9:17 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden we should focus on the "engae" part - we can't possibly cover all aspects of topic #eltchat agree |
| Shaunwilden |
9:18 PM |
@cerirhiannon Oh yes i meant it was one aspect but didn't have enough characters #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
9:18 PM |
@Shaunwilden meant vocab in previous tweet. Nope sadly tests aren't fair =( #eltchat |
| barbarabujtas |
9:18 PM |
@PrettyButWise top down:from the expected meaning (context, etc.) you guess what the text is about |
| eannegrenoble |
9:18 PM |
@PrettyButWise top down - interrogate the whole text, guessing words etc .. bottom up - start from the words and put them together #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:18 PM |
@Shaunwilden I think to get them motivated to listen read is half the job done - then you can work on the nuts and bolts #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
9:18 PM |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan for out of class activities, clear instructions should be given for tasks, with help/feedback built in, IMO #ELTChat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:18 PM |
@Shaunwilden but "micro- engagement" in the classroom is also sth we can foster #eltchat |
| naomishema |
9:18 PM |
#eltchat - I have SS answer Q's about PICTURES, not texts, so that they can focus on what kind of answer is required for each type of Q |
| Marisa_C |
9:19 PM |
@antoniaclare OK - so point number 1 - FInd engaging content - do you ask the students ? #ELTchat |
| barbarabujtas |
9:19 PM |
@PrettyButWise bottom-up: from small segments of the lg you put the puzzle of meaning together |
| ljp2010 |
9:19 PM |
#eltchat i try to encourage L&R outside the class by allowing a space for the sts to ask about things they didn't quite understand |
| cathywint |
9:19 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: The value of extensive reading - Richard Day http://t.co/qI01sv4r #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:20 PM |
RT @eannegrenoble: @PrettyButWise top down - interrogate the whole text, guessing words etc .. bottom up - start from the words and put them together #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:20 PM |
@Marisa_C I try to get sts to bring in texts that they read (newspaper / mag articles etc.) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:20 PM |
@Marisa_C negotiating content is best way to engage sts #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:20 PM |
designing tasks that make it fun to take the text apart and then put it back together is part of the challenge #eltchat |
| esolcourses |
9:20 PM |
@Marisa_C @Shaunwilden think you are probably right about focus, Marisa (sorry... tweets refreshing very slowly. Hard to follow! )#ELTChat |
| antoniaclare |
9:21 PM |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C and i also like to find articles which I think will appeal to them #eltchat |
| ljp2010 |
9:21 PM |
#eltchat@antoniaclare but what if you're stuck with a coursebook that you have to follow? how to make that engaging? |
| rliberni |
9:21 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Listening & Reading Psycholinguistic Games we play on our own as users - find ways of replicating guessing & stimulate curiosity #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:21 PM |
RT @barbarabujtas: @PrettyButWise bottom-up: from small segments of the lg you put the puzzle of meaning together |
| harrisonmike |
9:21 PM |
@Marisa_C @antoniaclare trick question?? I'd say definitely where possible, but depending on context T will have to recommend #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:21 PM |
Listening & Reading Psycholinguistic Games we play on our own as users - find ways of replicating guessing & stimulate curiosity #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:21 PM |
RT @barbarabujtas: @PrettyButWise top down:from the expected meaning (context, etc.) you guess what the text is about |
| cerirhiannon |
9:21 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: @Marisa_C negotiating content is best way to engage sts #ELTchat > totally agree, asking ss to bring txts/links to class |
| Shaunwilden |
9:21 PM |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C Agreed but how the balance that with the demands of a school and a cbk? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:22 PM |
Make reading and listening feeling like puzzles or games or problem solving tasks #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:22 PM |
and what subskills within receptive skills ? Any ideas ? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:22 PM |
@ljp2010 If stuck with the coursebook play the games to stimulate curiosity which didn't kill the cat :-D #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:22 PM |
@antoniaclare supplement the coursebook then #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:23 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: @Marisa_C if pre tasks are fun the predictive element makes the task itself interesting #eltchat > yes great |
| ljp2010 |
9:23 PM |
#eltchat i let a group talk all the way through a listening recently. an interesting experiment. |
| antoniaclare |
9:23 PM |
@ljp2010 #eltchat I think teachers always need to think about how to personalise csbk, make more relavant for sts |
| Shaunwilden |
9:23 PM |
@ljp2010 personalise, as them to find related texts, do it as a jigsaw, make them curious #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:23 PM |
@PrettyButWise Well for reading I would recommend you read C Nuttall's book for listening Anderson & Lynch #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
9:23 PM |
@ljp2010 use wordle for text prediction activities, have learners create course book type texts and listenings4receptive practice #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:23 PM |
@Marisa_C if pre tasks are fun the predictive element makes the task itself interesting #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:23 PM |
but even"boring/dry" texts can be mined for useful language learning experiences too - engagement in the task not the text #eltchat |
| rliberni |
9:23 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Make reading and listening feeling like puzzles or games or problem solving tasks #eltchat |
| ljp2010 |
9:24 PM |
#eltchat@antoniaclare yes, crucial to engage the learners initially |
| Shaunwilden |
9:24 PM |
@ljp2010 That does sound interesting - why, what for and was it successful? #eltchat |
| DinaDobrou |
9:24 PM |
@ljp2010 What was the outcome of the experiment? And why did you choose to do so? #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
9:24 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @ljp2010 personalise, as them to find related texts, do it as a jigsaw, make them curious #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:25 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Listening & Reading Psycholinguistic Games we play on our own as users - find ways of replicating guessing & stimulate curiosity #eltchat |
| DinaDobrou |
9:25 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat I think if text is good enough, don't need exciting task, but if text is dry, need to jazz task > Totally agree! |
| Marisa_C |
9:25 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat I think if the text is good enough, don't need exciting task, but if the text is dry, need to jazz task > & more! |
| harrisonmike |
9:25 PM |
Don't forget, receptive skills practice can be LISTENING to each other and READING what they have written #ELTchat (caps for emphasis) |
| ljp2010 |
9:25 PM |
@DinaDobrou #eltchat they found it hard to talk at 1st, so much training not to. but then they helped each other with bits they missed |
| antoniaclare |
9:25 PM |
#eltchat I think if the text is good enough, don't need exciting task, but if the text is dry, need to jazz task |
| eannegrenoble |
9:26 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat To get sts engaged, it's important to do more than just answer comp qns, > I get them to draw the information |
| rliberni |
9:26 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @DinaDobrou @antoniaclare Which goes back to the idea of making sure it interests them, too many times tchrs think a text wont #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:26 PM |
#eltchat ...need to allow students opportunities to voice their personal response |
| Shaunwilden |
9:26 PM |
@DinaDobrou @antoniaclare Which goes back to the idea of making sure it interests them, too many times tchrs think a text wont #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:26 PM |
@antoniaclare totally agree reader/listener response SO important #eltchat |
| ljp2010 |
9:26 PM |
#eltchat@Shaunwilden it was an off the cuff comment by neil mcmahon during the active listening chat. If S&L are so linked, why separate |
| cerirhiannon |
9:26 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat To get sts engaged, it's important to do more than just answer comp qns, ask them for their input, opinion, experience |
| SueAnnan |
9:26 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat To get sts engaged, it's important to do more than just answer comp qns, ask the… (cont) http://t.co/E30jL4rg |
| cerirhiannon |
9:26 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: Don't forget, receptive skills practice can be LISTENING to each other and READING what they have written #ELTchat (caps for emphasis) |
| rliberni |
9:26 PM |
sorry bit late couldn't get my laptop up and running will catch up #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:26 PM |
#eltchat To get sts engaged, it's important to do more than just answer comp qns, ask them for their input, opinion, experience |
| antoniaclare |
9:27 PM |
RT @eannegrenoble: #eltchat To get sts engaged, it's important to do more than just answer comp qns> I get them to draw the information gr8! |
| Shaunwilden |
9:27 PM |
@DinaDobrou What's wring with before AND after AND even during? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:27 PM |
@eannegrenoble nice idea for a number of text types #eltchat |
| tarabenwell |
9:27 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat I think if the text is good enough, don't need exciting task, but if the text is dry, need to jazz task |
| DinaDobrou |
9:27 PM |
@antoniaclare Shld we personalise before or after compr. Qs? Or does it depend on level and/or lesson focus? #ELTchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:27 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat To get sts engaged, it's important to do more than just answer comp qns, ask them for their input, opinion, experience |
| antoniaclare |
9:28 PM |
@DinaDobrou Depends on text, but at any point i think it's a good idea. Often easier at the end (what about here in this country?) #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:28 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: @DinaDobrou @antoniaclare personalise wherever and whenever you can IMHO #eltchat > totally agree |
| rliberni |
9:28 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: @DinaDobrou @antoniaclare personalise wherever and whenever you can IMHO #eltchat |
| tarabenwell |
9:28 PM |
@ljp2010 @DinaDobrou Fascinating idea. #ELTchat |
| DinaDobrou |
9:28 PM |
@Shaunwilden Hmm..a gr8 point indeed...in my teaching context, I'd say "time". School demands that we cover lots per academic hour! #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:28 PM |
link to post on usinf reader response codes (written in response to a past #eltchat) cerij.wordpress.com/2011/05/12/reader-response-codes/ |
| harrisonmike |
9:28 PM |
@DinaDobrou @antoniaclare personalise wherever and whenever you can IMHO #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
9:28 PM |
#eltchat - or get THEM to ask the comprehension questions |
| antoniaclare |
9:29 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: I ask them what they want to find out and they check to see whether it was mentioned #ELTchat - Absolutely ! |
| PrettyButWise |
9:29 PM |
@eannegrenoble I like this idea more bcoz they will try their others skills in the same time and might find it interesting #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:29 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: I ask them what they want to find out and they check to see whether it was mentioned #ELTchat |
| ljp2010 |
9:29 PM |
@tarabenwell #eltchat and if nothing else, the sts are surprised. so important to keep surprising them :) |
| rliberni |
9:29 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: I ask them what they want to find out and they check to see whether it was mentioned #ELTchat nice idea |
| cerirhiannon |
9:29 PM |
don't just personalise -localise as well - draw in comparisons / parallels with the students' contexts #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:29 PM |
@DinaDobrou Ok but eg ask Qs to start, let them read for what they want and then ask opinion not that time consuming #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:29 PM |
I ask them what they want to find out and they check to see whether it was mentioned #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:29 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: link to post on usinf reader response codes (written in response to a past #eltchat) cerij.w… (cont) http://t.co/QeRunkXo |
| harrisonmike |
9:30 PM |
@cerirhiannon and globalise, don't stop, so many opportunities for extending language, drawing comparisons #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:30 PM |
@SueAnnan It;s sth I wrote while I was doing the seeta course #eltchat |
| rliberni |
9:30 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: RT @cerirhiannon: link to post on usinf reader response codes (written in response to a past #eltchat) cerij.w… (cont) http://t.co/QeRunkXo |
| cerirhiannon |
9:30 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Link to a post on getting them to ask the questions beforehand http://t.co/eIThHsU6 Advance Organisers #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:30 PM |
@Marisa_C thanks for that #eltchat |
| DinaDobrou |
9:30 PM |
@Shaunwilden Nope, I was refering to before And during And after! But I guess you meant either would do, right? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:30 PM |
Link to a post on getting them to ask the questions beforehand http://t.co/eIThHsU6 Advance Organisers #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:31 PM |
@cerirhiannon @DinaDobrou Actually yes should is better #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:31 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @DinaDobrou Nope I meant you could do it at all stages #eltchat > should? |
| Marisa_C |
9:31 PM |
Great - this #eltchat is beginning to really rock! |
| cerirhiannon |
9:31 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: @cerirhiannon and globalise, don't stop, so many opportunities for extending language, drawing comparisons #eltchat > :) |
| Shaunwilden |
9:31 PM |
@DinaDobrou Nope I meant you could do it at all stages #eltchat |
| ljp2010 |
9:32 PM |
#eltchat just how much actual teaching of reading sub-skills would you say you do? |
| tarabenwell |
9:32 PM |
RT @eannegrenoble: #eltchat - or get THEM to ask the comprehension questions |
| harrisonmike |
9:32 PM |
The Internet provides great opportunity to find texts from different sources on same topic, e.g. Brit & US newspapers on hurricane #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
9:32 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Link to a post on getting them to ask the questions beforehand http://t.co/eIThHsU6 Advance Organisers #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:32 PM |
@Marisa_C thanks dear #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:32 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Great - this #eltchat is beginning to really rock! - Yay! |
| cerirhiannon |
9:32 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: @DinaDobrou If you need to cover lots of material, need to think of adapting rather than supplementing (change the qns or task) #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:32 PM |
@DinaDobrou If you need to cover lots of material, need to think of adapting rather than supplementing (change the qns or task) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:33 PM |
I think integrated skill lessons are good at not doing the 'and now for something completely different' thing #ELTchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:33 PM |
@barbarabujtas thanks dear #eltchat |
| rliberni |
9:33 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: The Internet provides great opportunity to find texts from different sources on same topic, e.g. Brit & US newspapers on hurricane #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:33 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: @harrisonmike Good point - I often look for YouTube clip related to the topic too #eltchat > or an eltpic ;) |
| PrettyButWise |
9:33 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: @DinaDobrou If you need to cover lots of material, need to think of adapting rather than supplementing (change the qns or task) #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:33 PM |
@antoniaclare @DinaDobrou I think where possible adapting better - let ss do the supplementing as reading for pleasure #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:33 PM |
@harrisonmike Good point - I often look for YouTube clip related to the topic too #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
9:33 PM |
RT @rliberni: RT @SueAnnan: I ask them what they want to find out and they check to see whether it was mentioned #ELTchat nice idea > yes |
| ljp2010 |
9:34 PM |
#eltchat@Shaunwilden same for me, and it's often assumed that they know how to read well by this stage. not always the case |
| JoshSRound |
9:34 PM |
RT @ljp2010: #eltchat just how much actual teaching of reading sub-skills would you say you do? |
| Marisa_C |
9:34 PM |
So what are some fun, motivating activs you have used to motivate Ss to listen or read-apart from getting them to ask own Qs #eltchat |
| tarabenwell |
9:34 PM |
@Marisa_C Agreed. I'm taking notes madly. #ELTChat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:34 PM |
@eannegrenoble thank u so much dear #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
9:34 PM |
@antoniaclare even better, developing multiple literacies as well as multiple skills =) #eltchat |
| naomishema |
9:34 PM |
#eltchat had to move computer. twitter seems to be cooperating here. see I missed a lot! |
| DinaDobrou |
9:34 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: @antoniaclare @DinaDobrou I think where possible adapting better - let ss do the supplementing as reading for pleasure #eltchat |
| juanalejandro26 |
9:34 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: The Internet provides great opportunity to find texts from different sources on same topic, e.g. Brit & US newspapers on hurricane #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:34 PM |
@ljp2010 I say quite a few but then I teach mainly high levels and so can really discuss it with them #eltchat |
| ljp2010 |
9:35 PM |
@harrisonmike #eltchat a useful one that :-) |
| Shaunwilden |
9:35 PM |
@ljp2010 Well they know how to read but not transfer the skills :-) But agreed the assumption part is an imp point #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:35 PM |
I do a lot of subskills training but that's not perhaps the motivating part - adults will appreciate more - but children? #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:35 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: @ljp2010 #eltchat - going out on a limb here, but prefer not to focus on sub-skills too much (they are same in L1)> agree |
| SueAnnan |
9:35 PM |
@ljp2010 depends on the class type #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
9:35 PM |
I teach the reading sub skill of going from left to right in English and not vice versa ;o) #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:35 PM |
@ljp2010 #eltchat - perhaps going out on a limb here, but I prefer not to focus on sub-skills too much (they are same in L1) - prefer to.. |
| cerirhiannon |
9:36 PM |
if ss have critical mass of language, and tasks that encourage the application of diff subskills, good readers in L1 will transfer #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
9:36 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat prefer to read in order to then discuss, or retell, reformulate, mine the text for interesting language |
| DinaDobrou |
9:36 PM |
RT @JoshSRound: @ljp2010 can also touch on sub skills at lower levels, raise awareness, relate to real world #eltchat |
| JoshSRound |
9:36 PM |
@ljp2010 can also touch on sub skills at lower levels, raise awareness, relate to real world #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:36 PM |
#eltchat prefer to read in order to then discuss, or retell, reformulate, mine the text for interesting language |
| ljp2010 |
9:37 PM |
@eannegrenoble #eltchat do you think all sts find it easy to transfer skills? |
| harrisonmike |
9:37 PM |
. @cerirhiannon what about bad readers then? Who deals with pre literate readers in this #ELTchat? |
| antoniaclare |
9:37 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: So what are some fun, motivating activs u have used 2motivate Ss to listen/read-apart from getting them to ask own Qs #eltchat |
| ljp2010 |
9:37 PM |
@JoshSRound #eltchat totally. sometimes feel that lower level teachers leave it to the higher level ones & vice versa! |
| cerirhiannon |
9:37 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat prefer to read in order to then discuss, or retell, reformulate, mine the text for interesting language > yes |
| rliberni |
9:37 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: I think integrated skill lessons are good at not doing the 'and now for something completely different' thing #ELTchat |
| eannegrenoble |
9:37 PM |
@ljp2010 #eltchat - prefer not to focus on sub-skills too much (they are same in L1)> and what about the "vocal loop" errr smthg like that |
| eannegrenoble |
9:38 PM |
RT @ljp2010: #eltchat do you think all sts find it easy to transfer skills? ... no I don't - difficult to skim in L2 |
| harrisonmike |
9:38 PM |
@ljp2010 @eannegrenoble Nooo, what about sts that can't read/write in their L1??? #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:38 PM |
RT @DinaDobrou: Using word clouds of the text and ask sts to predict. #ELTchat > Nice - or use it at the end - sts summarise, or retell |
| cerirhiannon |
9:38 PM |
weak readers need above all to know that they don't need to read and understand every word - sounds basic- but imp for lots of Ss #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:38 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: . @cerirhiannon what about bad readers then? Who deals with pre literate readers in this #ELTchat? |
| Marisa_C |
9:38 PM |
RT @DinaDobrou: Using word clouds of the text and ask sts to predict. #ELTchat |
| DinaDobrou |
9:38 PM |
Using word clouds of the text and ask sts to predict. #ELTchat |
| harrisonmike |
9:39 PM |
@cerirhiannon totally agree. I tell them to read 'easier' texts so they don't have to constantly look up words in dictionary #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:39 PM |
RT @tarabenwell: Ask sts if they would share what they learned from reading with someone outside of class.Why/why not? If yes, who? #ELTChat |
| DinaDobrou |
9:39 PM |
Show a picture(s) related to the topic and brainstorm language/ideas. #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:39 PM |
Smtms if a text a REALLY boring (but I have to cover it bcz in CB) I do more prediction until they beg to read :-D #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:39 PM |
retelling, revisiting, recasting - at end of lesson or in next lesson all imp activities too #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:39 PM |
@harrisonmike Not had alot of expereince, I suspect you have? #eltchat |
| ljp2010 |
9:39 PM |
#eltchat@eannegrenoble they may need explicit instruction on how to do it even if they can do it in L1 |
| tarabenwell |
9:39 PM |
Ask sts if they would share what they learned from reading with someone outside of class. Why or why not? If yes, who? #ELTChat |
| SueAnnan |
9:39 PM |
RT @rliberni: @SueAnnan integrating skills also helps to reinforce vocab etc.. #eltchat yes that's a good point |
| PrettyButWise |
9:39 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: I do a lot of subskills training but that's not perhaps the motivating part - adults will appreciate more - but children? #eltchat |
| rliberni |
9:39 PM |
@SueAnnan integrating skills also helps to reinforce vocab etc.. #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:39 PM |
start for ss texts on the same topic (spoken or written) - and then compare - give the ss' text priority #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
9:40 PM |
@Shaunwilden yeah, and I still don't know really how to best manage it =/ #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:40 PM |
@harrisonmike I think you need to teach them to read around the new vocab too. so NOT dep on dictionary #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:40 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: retelling, revisiting, recasting - at end of lesson or in next lesson all imp activities too #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:40 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: I tell them to read 'easier' texts .... #eltchat > yes reading below level so imp for self-esteem and fluency |
| rliberni |
9:40 PM |
RT @DinaDobrou: Show a picture(s) related to the topic and brainstorm language/ideas. #ELTchat |
| ljp2010 |
9:40 PM |
@harrisonmike #eltchat must help with confidence and reading speed too |
| rliberni |
9:40 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: retelling, revisiting, recasting - at end of lesson or in next lesson all imp activities too #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
9:40 PM |
@harrisonmike - that's the point innit - Different problem #eltchat |
| DinaDobrou |
9:40 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: RT @tarabenwell: Ask sts if they would share what they learned from reading with someone outside of class.Why/why not? If yes, who? #ELTChat |
| rliberni |
9:40 PM |
RT @tarabenwell: Ask sts if they would share what they learned from reading with someone outside of class. Why or why not? If yes, who? #ELTChat |
| DinaDobrou |
9:41 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Have used different pics for describe & find differences, then read to see which selection best represents concepts in text #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:41 PM |
@harrisonmike Do you approach like one would with a child in their l1? #eltchat |
| rliberni |
9:41 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Have used different pics for describe & find differences, then read to see which selection best represents concepts in text #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:41 PM |
Have used different pics for describe & find differences, then read to see which selection best represents concepts in text #eltchat |
| SimonGreenall |
9:41 PM |
#ELTChat Some reading sub-skills generate motivating activity types which are more useful than practice in the sub-slill itself. |
| rliberni |
9:41 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: @harrisonmike I think you need to teach them to read around the new vocab too. so NOT dep on dictionary #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:41 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @harrisonmike: I tell them to read 'easier' texts .... #eltchat > yes reading below level so imp for self-esteem and fluency |
| cerirhiannon |
9:41 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat - ask sts to 'interview' someone from the text, 'how do they feel about...?' |
| DinaDobrou |
9:41 PM |
@antoniaclare Yes, a gr8 tool to help sts summarise/retell. #ELTchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:41 PM |
#eltchat - ask sts to 'interview' someone from the text, 'how do they feel about...?' |
| bethcagnol |
9:41 PM |
I'm SO sorry for not joining you on #ELTCHAT. Promise next week will be better. Classes start and I'll need my virtual classroom. :-) |
| PrettyButWise |
9:42 PM |
I don't know what's going on I can't focus with u guys so just gonna read :/ #eltchat maybe the topic is totally new !! |
| cerirhiannon |
9:42 PM |
post-reasing: ss choose a sentence, write the words at random, ask classmates to unjumble and identify where it came frm in text #eltchat |
| SimonGreenall |
9:42 PM |
@eannegrenoble You just did! #ELTChat |
| ELTExperiences |
9:42 PM |
Good idea - RT @DinaDobrou: Show a picture(s) related to the topic and brainstorm language/ideas. #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
9:42 PM |
RT @SimonGreenall: #ELTChat Some reading sub-skills generate motivating activity types which are more useful than practice in the sub-slill itself. |
| eannegrenoble |
9:42 PM |
@SimonGreenall wish I'd said that ;-)) #ELTChat |
| eannegrenoble |
9:42 PM |
RT @SimonGreenall: #ELTChat Some reading sub-skills generate motivating activity types which are more useful than practice in the sub-slill itself. |
| DinaDobrou |
9:42 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat - ask sts to 'interview' someone from the text, 'how do they feel about...?' |
| SueAnnan |
9:42 PM |
RT @SimonGreenall: #ELTChat Some reading sub-skills generate motivating activity types which are more usefu… (cont) http://t.co/LT0OqoRK |
| antoniaclare |
9:43 PM |
#eltchat get sts to change a few sentences from the text, and see what effect it has (change the story or the ending) |
| Marisa_C |
9:43 PM |
@tarabenwell I like that - tho Ss would have to be au fait with blogging to do #ELTChat |
| ELTExperiences |
9:43 PM |
I like to incorporate prediction techniques for reading - show 8-12 words and get sts to predict the story. #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:43 PM |
RT @tarabenwell: Imagine the reading as a blog post. What tags would you add? #ELTChat > nice |
| esolcourses |
9:43 PM |
@Raquel_EFL @Shaunwilden don't think it's your connection, Raquel... myself and others are having problems too #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
9:43 PM |
@cerirhiannon nice - fun #eltchat |
| tarabenwell |
9:43 PM |
Imagine the reading as a blog post. What tags would you add? #ELTChat |
| harrisonmike |
9:43 PM |
@Shaunwilden I think I would, a lot of working out the sounds of words as you read - often sts can say the words but not spell them #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:44 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Read in role - as if you were a ..... lawyer, priest. alien, psychoanalyst.... #ELTchat > nice |
| PrettyButWise |
9:44 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat get sts to change a few sentences from the text, and see what effect it has (change the story or the ending) |
| SueAnnan |
9:44 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @harrisonmike So do you do a lot of alphabet work first (sorry for all the ?s) am genuinely interested :-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:44 PM |
Read in role - as if you were a ..... lawyer, priest. alien, psychoanalyst.... #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:44 PM |
@harrisonmike So do you do a lot of alphabet work first (sorry for all the ?s) am genuinely interested :-) #eltchat |
| DinaDobrou |
9:44 PM |
Show title/subtitle and ask groups to predict and make a list of bullet points then ask them to read and tick them off their list. #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:44 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat get sts to change a few sentences from the text, and see what effect it has (change the story or the ending) |
| PrettyButWise |
9:44 PM |
@cerirhiannon Luv ur tweets keep tweeting dear many good ideaz #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
9:45 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Read in role - as if you were a ..... lawyer, priest. alien, psychoanalyst.... #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:45 PM |
draw a picture or map of the reading text / listening text #eltchat |
| DinaDobrou |
9:45 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Read in role - as if you were a ..... lawyer, priest. alien, psychoanalyst.... #ELTchat |
| eannegrenoble |
9:45 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: (..), a lot of working out the sounds of words as you read >> right on the ball #eltchat |
| DinaDobrou |
9:45 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @tarabenwell: Imagine the reading as a blog post. What tags would you add? #ELTChat > nice |
| Shaunwilden |
9:45 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Read in role - as if you were a ..... lawyer, priest. alien, psychoanalyst.... #ELTchat Oh yeah thats a good one :-) |
| cerirhiannon |
9:46 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat put different texts (or parts of texts) up on wall, play music, sts wander round and read to find out ... |
| DinaDobrou |
9:46 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: write "competitive summaries" of texts ie in 30 words - then cut down to 20 - then cut down to 10 - shortest summary wins #eltchat (R&L) |
| SueAnnan |
9:46 PM |
got illiterate beginner sts this month. The alphabet (and the phonology) is a must for decoding #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:46 PM |
#eltchat put different texts (or parts of texts) up on wall, play music, sts wander round and read to find out ... |
| PrettyButWise |
9:46 PM |
RT @DinaDobrou: Show title/subtitle and ask groups to predict and make a list of bullet points then ask them to read and tick them off their list. #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
9:46 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: @Shaunwilden definitely with sts who write a non roman script. I've been doing more on sounds of letters & letter strings recently #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:46 PM |
write "competitive summaries" of texts ie in 30 words - then cut down to 20 - then cut down to 10 - shortest summary wins #eltchat (R&L) |
| harrisonmike |
9:46 PM |
@Shaunwilden definitely with sts who write a non roman script. I've been doing more on sounds of letters & letter strings recently #ELTchat |
| harrisonmike |
9:47 PM |
Mini sagas are great source. A story in 50 words, no more no less. Good for quick reading, dictogloss, synonym finding activities #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:47 PM |
@Shaunwilden all the time #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:47 PM |
RT @DinaDobrou: If reading/listening text is a story, ask sts to create a script and act it out. #ELTchat > yes, lovely! |
| ELTExperiences |
9:47 PM |
@antoniaclare very Dogme-like idea #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:47 PM |
@harrisonmike @SueAnnan Have used the phonics? #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:47 PM |
next lesson do a dictogloss of part of the text #eltchat |
| DinaDobrou |
9:47 PM |
If reading/listening text is a story, ask sts to create a script and act it out. #ELTchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:47 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: write "competitive summaries" of texts ie in 30 words - then cut down to 20 - then cut down to 10- shortest wins #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
9:47 PM |
@harrisonmike Wish I could find the refs about the importance of the audio loop in the working memory when reading #ELTchat |
| ljp2010 |
9:48 PM |
#eltchat @DinaDobrou yes revisiting the text is important. any other ideas? |
| Shaunwilden |
9:48 PM |
@SueAnnan does it work? I was reading about their growing use in schools in the UK last week #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:48 PM |
@DinaDobrou I always try to come back to the text somehow or other #eltchat |
| ELTExperiences |
9:48 PM |
I love dictogloss - RT @cerirhiannon: next lesson do a dictogloss of part of the text #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:48 PM |
@ELTExperiences #eltchat ;) |
| DinaDobrou |
9:48 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: next lesson do a dictogloss of part of the text #eltchat > That's a cool way to come back to the text! |
| cerirhiannon |
9:48 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: Mini sagas are great source. A story in 50 words, no more no less. Good for quick reading, dictogloss, synonym finding activities #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:49 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: @DinaDobrou I always try to come back to the text somehow or other #eltchat >Me too - exploit for as much as poss. |
| harrisonmike |
9:49 PM |
@Shaunwilden @sueannan I haven't done so much, but might investigate ths year. Got mostly lower level classes w/some weaker readers #ELTchat |
| DinaDobrou |
9:50 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: @eannegrenoble they listen for info and remove the section from the board #ELTchat |
| DinaDobrou |
9:50 PM |
@antoniaclare @cerirhiannon True, even texts done longer before. #ELTchat |
| Leftwichprimary |
9:50 PM |
RT @harrisonmike: Mini sagas are great source. A story in 50 words, no more no less. Good for quick reading, dictogloss, synonym finding activities #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:50 PM |
@eannegrenoble they listen for info and remove the section from the board #ELTchat |
| ELTExperiences |
9:50 PM |
@cerirhiannon @DinaDobrou I try to recycle and review vocabulary introduced in earlier lessons. #ELTchat |
| ELTExperiences |
9:51 PM |
@SueAnnan that's a great idea to combine listening with reading. I do the same with words from music lyrics. #ELTchat |
| eannegrenoble |
9:51 PM |
@SueAnnan thx #ELTchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:51 PM |
#eltchat - speed reading (like we're doing here) gr8 skill to work on with sts? |
| SimonGreenall |
9:51 PM |
@SueAnnan Good idea. #ELTchat |
| ELTExperiences |
9:51 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: @eannegrenoble they listen for info and remove the section from the board #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:52 PM |
@ELTExperiences Me too #ELTchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:52 PM |
@SueAnnan Hope nobody asks me comprehension qns at the end! ;) #eltchat |
| ELTExperiences |
9:52 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: in next class give the ss the answers to the questions from the class before and ask them to remember the questions - just for fun #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:52 PM |
@antoniaclare Oo now there's an idea for using twitter in the class then :-) #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:52 PM |
RT @SueAnnan: @antoniaclare even some of us find this difficult :-) #eltchat > LOL! |
| SueAnnan |
9:52 PM |
@antoniaclare even some of us find this difficult :-) #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:52 PM |
in next class give the ss the answers to the questions from the class before and ask them to remember the questions - just for fun #eltchat |
| ljp2010 |
9:53 PM |
#eltchat has there been an eslchat on using twitter in class? |
| DinaDobrou |
9:53 PM |
@eannegrenoble I do. A time limit prevents them from reading by translating word for word. And also a focus Q beforehand. #ELTchat |
| JoshSRound |
9:53 PM |
LOL! RT @antoniaclare: @SueAnnan Hope nobody asks me comprehension qns at the end! ;) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:53 PM |
@antoniaclare @SueAnnan what did the first person after Sue announced Jersey was here say? #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:53 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @antoniaclare Oo now there's an idea for using twitter in the class then :-) #eltchat >Haven't tried it yet, but maybe ;) |
| bethcagnol |
9:53 PM |
@antoniaclare Here's an idea: let sts choose a chat on twitter and try to follow it during class. Maybe. #ELTCHAT |
| SueAnnan |
9:53 PM |
@antoniaclare LOL #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:54 PM |
RT @ELTExperiences: @antoniaclare I believe most sts think that in the class #ELTchat > I agree - can be a real dampener |
| Shaunwilden |
9:54 PM |
@cerirhiannon I'll have to check the transcript :-) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:54 PM |
@cerirhiannon or thereabouts #ELTchat |
| CELT_Athens |
9:54 PM |
RT @eannegrenoble: Does anyone do timed reading with their students ? #ELTchat yes |
| eannegrenoble |
9:54 PM |
Does anyone do timed reading with their students ? #ELTchat |
| ELTExperiences |
9:54 PM |
@antoniaclare I believe most sts think that in the class #ELTchat |
| CELT_Athens |
9:55 PM |
Have written at least 4-5 but can't see them #eltchat (marisa) |
| SueAnnan |
9:55 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: @CELT_Athens @eannegrenoble I set time limits to encourage reading for gist etc #eltchat so do I |
| tarabenwell |
9:55 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: in next class give the ss the answers to the questions from the class before and ask them to remember the questions - just for fun #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
9:55 PM |
@CELT_Athens @eannegrenoble I set time limits to encourage reading for gist etc #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:55 PM |
@CELT_Athens mine did that last week #Eltchat |
| CELT_Athens |
9:55 PM |
I'm using my school account as mine not showing any longer #Eltchat (by @Marisa_C ) |
| ELTExperiences |
9:55 PM |
@cerirhiannon @SueAnnan @Shaunwilden @antoniaclare I don't like comp ques but do like CCQs. #ELTchat |
| ELTExperiences |
9:56 PM |
@antoniaclare I suppose teachers test student understanding with comprehension questions: pits them on the spot #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:56 PM |
@CELT_Athens have seen 4 so far #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:57 PM |
@ELTExperiences better if they complete a task to show understanding rather than feeling put on the spot #ELTchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:57 PM |
@ELTExperiences Yes, tho' makes it more like a test #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
9:57 PM |
#eltchat get sts to turn a text into complete nonsense |
| SueAnnan |
9:58 PM |
@eannegrenoble concept check questions #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
9:58 PM |
Sitting here puzzeling over CCQs ? #eltchat must have gone brain dead |
| Marisa_C |
9:58 PM |
If u can find similar texts e.g. from diff papers, get ss to pick best bits for own rewrite #eltchat |
| tarabenwell |
9:58 PM |
@Marisa_C Fun! Actually I'd like to see Marisa do that. I know you'd have us cracking up. #ELTchat |
| SimonGreenall |
9:58 PM |
@SueAnnan Yes, many other ways of testing comp than comp questions. #ELTchat |
| rliberni |
9:58 PM |
sorry struggling with borrowed laptop tonight so not so active. #eltchat |
| DinaDobrou |
9:58 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: #eltchat get sts to turn a text into complete nonsense >LIke change adj describing ppl? |
| tarabenwell |
9:59 PM |
@Marisa_C I saw a text where scattered words were replaced with nonsense words. Students had to decide which word form belonged. #ELTchat |
| SueAnnan |
9:59 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: ask ss to pare text down to basics - e.g. deleting all unnecessary words #eltchat - can wor… (cont) http://t.co/wxmYQc7B |
| Marisa_C |
9:59 PM |
@cerirhiannon #eltchat that's a good one |
| Shaunwilden |
9:59 PM |
@eannegrenoble Now am trying to think of a good CCQ to ask to check :-) #eltchat |
| ELTExperiences |
9:59 PM |
@SueAnnan which is why I prefer TBL than PPP methods of teaching. #ELTchat |
| antoniaclare |
9:59 PM |
#eltchat I try to give sts tasks that will get them talking about the text (then i can see how much they understood) |
| Marisa_C |
9:59 PM |
@cerirhiannon YEs a few tweets went down the tweetdrain #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
9:59 PM |
ask ss to pare text down to basics - e.g. deleting all unnecessary words #eltchat - can work with transcripts too |
| cerirhiannon |
10:00 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Get sts to change facts and tell lies #eltchat works great for young and older ss |
| Shaunwilden |
10:00 PM |
RT @DinaDobrou: @SimonGreenall But how do we know when planning for our lesson? #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
10:00 PM |
RT @SimonGreenall: #ELTChat (...) you cn create artificial motivation wiv different tasks.Many ideas this evening. |
| cerirhiannon |
10:00 PM |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat give sts tasks to get them talking abt text ( can see how much they understood)> re… (cont) http://t.co/stGahQDU |
| rliberni |
10:00 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Get sts to change facts and tell lies #eltchat works great for young and older ss |
| rliberni |
10:00 PM |
RT @SimonGreenall: #ELTChat My hunch ... If a passage imotivates Ss(authentic motivation) probably should be left alone. If not, (...) |
| SimonGreenall |
10:00 PM |
#ELTChat (...) you cn create artificial motivation wiv different tasks.Many ideas this evening. |
| Marisa_C |
10:00 PM |
Get sts to change facts and tell lies #eltchat works great for young and older ss |
| rliberni |
10:00 PM |
RT @tarabenwell: @Marisa_C I saw a text where scattered words were replaced with nonsense words. Students had to decide which word form belonged. #ELTchat |
| SimonGreenall |
10:00 PM |
#ELTChat My hunch ... If a passage imotivates Ss(authentic motivation) probably should be left alone. If not, (...) |
| eannegrenoble |
10:00 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: ask ss to pare text down tobasics - e.g. deleting all unnecessary words #eltchat - Useful for working on Adjs and modifier |
| cerirhiannon |
10:01 PM |
RT @SimonGreenall: #ELTChat My hunch ... If a passage imotivates Ss(authentic motivation) probably should be left alone. If not, (...) |
| Marisa_C |
10:01 PM |
@SimonGreenall #ELTChat I think you are right - message is if text not motivating, engage through intersting tasks #eltchat |
| ljp2010 |
10:02 PM |
#eltchat really interesting chat today. thanks everyone! |
| cerirhiannon |
10:02 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: Oh gosh the hour has passed already, wow super fast #eltchat > really!!! |
| SimonGreenall |
10:02 PM |
@Shaunwilden Good question. Too many ways to answer ... sorry. #eltchat |
| tarabenwell |
10:02 PM |
Thanks for all of the fantastic ideas teachers! #ELTChat |
| antoniaclare |
10:02 PM |
@SimonGreenall I remember you telling me that in Bentinck St ;) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10:02 PM |
Oh gosh the hour has passed already, wow super fast #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
10:02 PM |
Lots of the ideas we have been sharing intergrate receptive skills work with productive skills too #eltchat - that's great |
| cerirhiannon |
10:02 PM |
@Marisa_C @SimonGreenall #eltchat - yes, if it's a good text less is definitely more in terms of tasks and exploitation |
| antoniaclare |
10:03 PM |
@Shaunwilden Oh, and I was really enjoying it #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10:03 PM |
@DinaDobrou Sounds a good idea #eltchat |
| cerirhiannon |
10:03 PM |
RT @ljp2010: #eltchat really interesting chat today. thanks everyone! > seconded! |
| Marisa_C |
10:03 PM |
@Shaunwilden It has! Sorry I got stuck in neverland for some time - was raring to go #ELTchat |
| cerirhiannon |
10:03 PM |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @DinaDobrou: @SimonGreenall But how do we know when planning for our lesson? #eltchat > be ready to ditch plan |
| eannegrenoble |
10:03 PM |
back to my correcting - tons of ideas - thanks a lot to all :-) #ELTchat |
| SimonGreenall |
10:03 PM |
l@antoniaclare #eltchat Haha, I feel old. Remember the oval shaped lift? :) |
| Shaunwilden |
10:04 PM |
Who'd like to summarise all the ideas from tonight? #eltchat |
| DinaDobrou |
10:04 PM |
Can I stay here and talk to myself for the 15 mins I missed at the beginning? lol #ELTchat\ |
| cerirhiannon |
10:04 PM |
great chat, great company, thx to everyone - esp'ly mods #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
10:04 PM |
@antoniaclare I didnt say you had to stop :-) but we do need to leave time for the comp questions :-) #eltchat |
| SimonGreenall |
10:04 PM |
@lacasonadelsur hat's a brilliant idea. Artifical motivation.#eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
10:04 PM |
RT @cerirhiannon: RT @ljp2010: #eltchat really interesting chat today. thanks everyone! > seconded! > thirded ;) |
| DinaDobrou |
10:04 PM |
@cerirhiannon Yeah, a plan B wouldn't work. I wouldn't have time to prepare two diff. lessons. :P #ELTchat Thnx Ceri! :) |
| iury_ELT |
10:05 PM |
@Marisa_C I used to RA a lot in class but I didn't understand much So I try to focus on Ss intonation - pronunciation when they RA #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden |
10:05 PM |
RT @Marisa_C: Thanks to all - great chat, great company , now wine o'clock!!! #eltchat Wine o'clock i second that :-) |
| SueAnnan |
10:05 PM |
not me sorry. When Cert course is finished will take a turn #ELTchat |
| SimonGreenall |
10:05 PM |
#eltchat Thank you moderators again, and everyone's sparkly ideas |
| Marisa_C |
10:05 PM |
Thanks to all - great chat, great company , now wine o'clock!!! #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
10:05 PM |
Thanks everyone great #ELTchat. Ta mods @Shaunwilden n @Marisa_C =) |
| cunningcanis |
10:06 PM |
RT @ljp2010: #eltchat really interesting chat today. thanks everyone! |
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