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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:00 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: Welcome to the lunchtime #eltchat "How can we recognize teachable moments? How can we take the most of them? "
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eMCDesignLtd
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9/7/2011
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2:00 PM
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Have a great #ELTchat today everyone http://ow.ly/66wnq
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:00 PM
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Welcome to the lunchtime #eltchat "How can we recognize teachable moments? How can we take the most of them? "
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:01 PM
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#ELTChat Good start shaun
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:01 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden and @Marisa_C moderating this #eltchat - please use hashtag for your tweets and ask us for help if new to the chat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:01 PM
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I need to start by asking me to define this topic ;-) as I said to a colleague surely everything is teachable :-) #eltchat -
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:01 PM
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@yitzha_sarwono welcome back :) #ELTChat
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:01 PM
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RT @yitzha_sarwono: #ELTChat Hello, it's good to be joining again :)
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:01 PM
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#ELTChat Hello, it's good to be joining again :)
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:01 PM
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@Shaunwilden and @Marisa_C moderating this #eltchat - please use hashtag for your tweets and ask us for help if new to the chat
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:02 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden and @Marisa_C moderating this #eltchat - please use hashtag for your tweets and ask us for help if new to the chat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:02 PM
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@shirleyteacher Welcome dear Shirley :-) (My roommate at ISTEK) #eltchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:02 PM
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#eltchat teachable moments, how do we recognise them....
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:02 PM
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teachable as in language producing/ "learnt"? #ELTchat
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:02 PM
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@cherrymp hi there,thanks for the welcoming smile :) #ELTChat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:02 PM
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@TyKendall I mean it I am not sure what the actual topic is #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:02 PM
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@Shaunwilden Perhaps we could ask @Raquel_EFL who took part in a similar chat and proposed the question #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:03 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Are we talking about recognising 'learning readiness' ? #ELTchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:03 PM
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RT @TyKendall: #eltchat i have a feeling dogme will raise its head soon! Oh no not again!
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:03 PM
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@TyKendall lol #ELTChat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:03 PM
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@TyKendall Agreed #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:03 PM
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Are we talking about recognising 'learning readiness' ? #ELTchat
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bealer81
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9/7/2011
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2:03 PM
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#eltchat maybe we should be looking at the points in the lesson where we should stop, take a time out and review for further review.
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:03 PM
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#eltchat i have a feeling dogme will raise its head soon!
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digitalemerge
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9/7/2011
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2:03 PM
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teachable = off lesson plan? spontaneous teaching moment? maximise every learning opportunity? #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:03 PM
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RT @TyKendall: #eltchat teachable moments, how do we recognise them....
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bealer81
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9/7/2011
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2:04 PM
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#eltchat I mean review for emerging language. Sorry trying to cook lunch at the same time!!!
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:04 PM
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@Marisa_C or is it to do with energy levels and moments when learners are at a peak? same thing I guess #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:04 PM
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@rliberni also moderating - good to see you Berni #ELTchat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:04 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Are we talking about recognising 'learning readiness' ? #ELTchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:05 PM
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#eltchat @Shaunwilden hahaha sorry shaun, ok, time to get serious...
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bealer81
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9/7/2011
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2:05 PM
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#eltchat Guilty!
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:05 PM
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RT @rliberni: @Marisa_C or is it to do with energy levels and moments when learners are at a peak? same thing I guess #eltchat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:05 PM
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Hello #eltchat and welcome to @shirleyteacher (I'm Mike from Russia / Istek)
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:05 PM
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@TyKendall Stop mentioning the d word #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:05 PM
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RT @TyKendall: #eltchat oh no someone mentioned emerging language....dogme is on the horizon ;-P
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:05 PM
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#eltchat oh no someone mentioned emerging language....dogme is on the horizon ;-P
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:05 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Raquel_EFL So who decides it is of unique interest ? #eltchat
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:05 PM
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@Shaunwilden @TyKendall is the moment defined by our experiences or just in general? #ELTChat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:05 PM
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RT @cherrymp: @Marisa_C for me it sounds something like that as i got in my head. teachable = ready to learn, assimilate #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:05 PM
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@Raquel_EFL So who decides it is of unique interest ? #eltchat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:05 PM
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@Marisa_C for me it sounds something like that as i got in my head. teachable = ready to learn, assimilate #ELTchat
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brad5patterson
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9/7/2011
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2:05 PM
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#eltchat hey all... going to be lurking a bit in the background. Busy day b4 a bit of vacation ;-) Like the "subtleness" of 2day's topic !
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:06 PM
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RT @rliberni: OK let's decide how to we define 'teachable' ? #eltchat
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:06 PM
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Hello everybody!!!#eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:06 PM
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@Raquel_EFL Isnt this a bit tricky given that most sts have different interests? #eltchat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:06 PM
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@Raquel_EFL @Shaunwilden n also unique interest to how many - in a cr sitn won't that too matter? #eltchat
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LidijaKralj
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9/7/2011
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2:06 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: RT @TheConsultantsE: Free Webinar: How to be a Viral Educator http://t.co/fQmQmYP #edchat #eltchat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:06 PM
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RT @rliberni: OK let's decide how to we define 'teachable' ? #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:06 PM
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OK let's decide how to we define 'teachable' ? #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:06 PM
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Doubt you can define anything as 'learnt' ever. We can't see into learners head for this #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:07 PM
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@Raquel_EFL so you mean recognising when ss are 'raring to go' i m guessing? and #ELTCHAT
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:07 PM
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@TyKendall can it be language alone? what about skills, content, knowledge ... #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:07 PM
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When there's a spark in the air, everyone is 'on', you've got engaging content, that's on the right lines I think #eltchat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:07 PM
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@daysealbar hello and welcome - discussing 'teachable moments' - now defining in prog #eltchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:07 PM
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#eltchat teachable = when it is the optimum time for ss to absorb language etc
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dalecoulter
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9/2/2011
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2:07 PM
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Turned up late to this blog post bit.ly/l4eYRd - great thoughts on motivation with practical ideas @fionamau #elt #tefl #eltchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:08 PM
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#eltchat could also be about reading energy levels in the classroom....could mean so many things really
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:08 PM
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teachable = amenable to some sort of learning activity + useful + motivating to SS? #ELTChat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:08 PM
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RT @mmgrinberg: I think monitoring body language is key to feeling teachable moments #eltchat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:08 PM
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@harrisonmike agreed - bt to get them all on itself is that easy? #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:08 PM
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@Marisa_C ot when tchrs are raring to go? #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:08 PM
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RT @mmgrinberg: I think monitoring body language is key to feeling teachable moments #eltchat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:08 PM
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I think monitoring body language is key to feeling teachable moments #eltchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:08 PM
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#eltchat i meant everything (thats what the etc was for ) :-)
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:09 PM
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@rliberni AMENABLE thats the word I've been looking for, been on the tip of my tongue ! #eltchat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:09 PM
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RT @AlexandraKouk: teachable = amenable to some sort of learning activity + useful + motivating to SS? #ELTChat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:09 PM
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RT @TyKendall: #eltchat could also be about reading energy levels in the classroom....could mean so many things really
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:09 PM
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RT @AlexandraKouk: teachable = amenable to some sort of learning activity + useful + motivating to SS? GREAT thnx #ELTChat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:09 PM
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Teachable moments must have something to do with the 'trance' state #eltchat
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:09 PM
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@mmgrinberg YES! #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:09 PM
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dreadful typos from me today :-( sorry #eltchat
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aClilToClimb
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9/6/2011
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2:09 PM
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Thnx 4 RT! @janetbianchini: Fab IASKU Intrview w/ Sharon @hartle http://t.co/JuedCZF - V intrstng! #elt #eltchat #esl #efl #elearning
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:10 PM
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@harrisonmike love the idea! sparkling moment in class #ELTChat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:10 PM
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@harrisonmike mm. sounds interesting. down n drained leading to a teachable moment. #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:10 PM
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RT @rliberni: So, what points in the lesson (or programme) give the best teaching/learning opps? #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:10 PM
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So, what points in the lesson (or programme) give the best teaching/learning opps? #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:10 PM
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I find it very diffcult to pin down the qualities - and teacher assessment bodies finding it EQUALLY difficult , e.g. Cambridge #ELTchat
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digitalemerge
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9/7/2011
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2:10 PM
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#eltchat teachable could be when there's an inquisitive moment or question. when students are active (or receptive)
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:10 PM
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@rliberni @Marisa_C is it the time when the topic become easier and recognizable for our students to finally absorb it? #ELTChat
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bealer81
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9/7/2011
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2:10 PM
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#eltchat Trance state? Anyone?
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:10 PM
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@cherrymp Nope, and to be honest, sometimes the best moments I've experienced have come when learners seemed down and drained #eltchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:11 PM
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#eltchat is this one of those chats where we spend half of it defining it :-)
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:11 PM
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@rliberni Whenever you're fully interested in the students and their lives and needs and dreams and wishes are the best #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:11 PM
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Are we talking about the difference between good and outstanding? Really finding it hard to get my brain round the word 'teachable' #ELTchat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:11 PM
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Teachable moments can be opposed to a situation when the syllabus is ok, but the people in the room are off #eltchat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:11 PM
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@yitzha_sarwono @harrisonmike sparkle - G+? #ELTChat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:12 PM
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Teachable moments are moments when the ss get 'unstuck' #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:12 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: I can give you words I ve heard 'a rush of excitement' a 'whoosh' 'this lesson had ooomph' but that's not really v objective #ELTchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:12 PM
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#eltchat @cherrymp i don't mind long definitions if they are necessary :-)
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:12 PM
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@TyKendall seems to be a trend cos often the person who posted isn't HERE! #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:12 PM
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I can give you words I ve heard 'a rush of excitement' a 'whoosh' 'this lesson had ooomph' but that's not really v objective #ELTchat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:12 PM
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@TyKendall soon the moderators will blow the whistle - don't worry #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:12 PM
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@Marisa_C Yes me too I am not sure what it is other than from the emerging language, topic P.O.V. #eltchat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:12 PM
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teachable moment: a moment conducive to optimal learning - sth like that? #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:12 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: @rliberni Whenever you're fully interested in the students and their lives and needs and dreams and wishes are the best #eltchat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:13 PM
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@harrisonmike u mean the state of a T or that of S? #eltchat
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:13 PM
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@ClaudiaCostin ENGLISH TEACHERS Join us on #eltchat happening now ! Valuable chat with teachers from all the world. (Please, RT)
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:13 PM
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RT @mmgrinberg: Teachable moments are moments when the ss get 'unstuck' #eltchat Why do you mean?
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:13 PM
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We could look at peaks and troughs in lesson planning I'm guessing the beginning would be a peak #eltchat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:13 PM
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@mmgrinberg unstuck from? #eltchat
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digitalemerge
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9/7/2011
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2:13 PM
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@mmgrinberg unstuck? wouldn't that be a taught moment? #eltchat
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:13 PM
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@mmgrinberg so it should involved both then? #ELTChat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:13 PM
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@harrisonmike unstuck from what? #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:13 PM
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@cherrymp Yeh, had the experience of it myself. I think sometimes a drained state can allow u to do things you might not otherwise #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:14 PM
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RT @TyKendall: #eltchat maybe teachable moments are when the teacher gets unstuck Lol
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:14 PM
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@JoHart u r always a welcome jump in Jo. :) glad to see you here. #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:14 PM
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@JoHart jump in any time #ELTchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:14 PM
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#eltchat maybe teachable moments are when the teacher gets unstuck
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:14 PM
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teachable moments = moments when learning occurs? hmmm.. #ELTChat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:14 PM
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Also the beginning of a course when there's a lot of enthusiasm #eltchat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:14 PM
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#ELTchat teachable student, teachable moment, teachable topic, teachable idea, - teachable alone lacks context imho - sorry for jumping in
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:14 PM
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@mmgrinberg I don't quite agree - these are 'learning moments' when sth 'clicks' but they are ver individual #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:15 PM
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RT @mmgrinberg: @cherrymp @shaunwilden @Marisa_C ok then, maybe we are talking about types of situations that systematically lead to lrning mnts. ? #eltchat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:15 PM
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@cherrymp @shaunwilden @Marisa_C ok then, maybe we are talking about types of situations that systematically lead to lrning mnts. ? #eltchat
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:15 PM
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@Shaunwilden exactly! #ELTChat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:15 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: @cherrymp Had exp of both. I've been drained in my studies and teaching and sometimes it has been a good outcome #eltchat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:15 PM
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@TyKendall that's a cute point - from learners to teachers :) #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:15 PM
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@cherrymp Had exp of both. I've been drained in my studies and teaching and sometimes it has been a good outcome #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:15 PM
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@TyKendall i don't recall that feeling any longer :-D #eltchat
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:15 PM
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@harrisonmike @cherrymp so,that's when the sparkle came then? from situation we don't expect? the silver lining in the cloud :) #ELTChat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:15 PM
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RT @AlexandraKouk: teachable moments = moments when learning occurs? hmmm.. #ELTChat So y isn't it a learnable moment then?
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digitalemerge
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9/7/2011
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2:15 PM
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@TyKendall #eltchat... I like where you're going with this
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:15 PM
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RT @TyKendall: #eltchat maybe teachable moments are when the teacher gets unstuck
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cybraryman1
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9/7/2011
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2:16 PM
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Carpe diem - Seize the Moment. That unplanned moment that the teacher can share insight with students #ELTChat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:16 PM
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#ELTchat teachable moments re Aha! moments for the teacher - what are they for the student
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danielsdottir
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9/7/2011
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2:16 PM
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#eltchat I think it's important to let go when students are interacting and learning from each other (new to this chat : ))
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du_siemens
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9/7/2011
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2:16 PM
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What's the topic today? #ELTChat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:16 PM
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#eltchat the trouble with the concept is : im sure most teachers would like 2 think their lessons contain more than just teachable moments
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:17 PM
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@rliberni just happens in the lesson n when it happens how to id n make use of it. #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:17 PM
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RT @Mr_Schenk: so teachable moments are when the teacher has to jump in? #ELTChat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:17 PM
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17 mins into #eltchat and I am totally confused
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:17 PM
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@JoHart Aha sounds better to me - suggests a flash of awareness - or sth like that - for learner OR teacher #ELTchat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:17 PM
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Aha! So, we're talking about a well-established term http://j.mp/q5lo40 #eltchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:17 PM
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#eltchat maybe they are Eureka! moments when everything slots into place
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:17 PM
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RT @TyKendall: #eltchat maybe teachable moments are when the teacher gets unstuck
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:17 PM
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RT @cherrymp: @mmgrinberg @shaunwilden @Marisa_C i guess so. n helping Ts to identify those moments n to use it for better learning. #eltchat
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Mr_Schenk
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9/7/2011
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2:17 PM
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so teachable moments are when the teacher has to jump in? #ELTChat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:17 PM
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RT @cybraryman1: Carpe diem - Seize the Moment. That unplanned moment that the teacher can share insight with students #ELTChat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:17 PM
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RT @JoHart: #ELTchat teachable moments re Aha! moments for the teacher - what are they for the student
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:17 PM
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RT @cybraryman1: Carpe diem - Seize the Moment. That unplanned moment that the teacher can share insight with students #ELTChat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:17 PM
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@mmgrinberg @shaunwilden @Marisa_C i guess so. n helping Ts to identify those moments n to use it for better learning. #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:17 PM
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Are we talking about how to include these in lesson plans or is it something that just happens in the lesson? #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:18 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @cherrymp Haha #eltchat > Nope
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:18 PM
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cool way of saying it ^^ RT @TyKendall #eltchat maybe they are Eureka! moments when everything slots into place
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:18 PM
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Are teachable moments different for young learners, teens and adults? #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:18 PM
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@cherrymp Haha #eltchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:18 PM
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#eltchat its not a good sign when the moderators are confused :-P
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:18 PM
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RT @JoHart: #ELTchat teachablew moments 4 me are partly serendipitous but can get more of them with thought
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:18 PM
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@Shaunwilden confusion is an indication of learning Shaun. trying to make sense of the mess n chaos. teachable moment! ;) #eltchat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:18 PM
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#ELTchat teachablew moments 4 me are partly serendipitous but can get more of them with thought
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:18 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: 17 mins into #eltchat and I am totally confused > I am evern more - call it bewildered (but not bewitched) :-D
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:18 PM
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hi #eltchat miss u , i didn't chat with u guys during Ramadhan :) what's the topic ?
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:18 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: 17 mins into #eltchat and I am totally confused - me too is this a brainstorm?
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padgets
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9/7/2011
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2:18 PM
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RT @cybraryman1: Carpe diem - Seize the Moment. That unplanned moment that the teacher can share insight with students #ELTChat
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JoeMcVeigh
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9/5/2011
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2:18 PM
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12 ways to improve your online searches: http://t.co/LMejtol #eltchat #tesol
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:19 PM
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@AlexandraKouk yes and Oh No - I can feel sth beginning with d coming on #ELTChat
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:19 PM
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@Shaunwilden LOL #ELTChat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:19 PM
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@AlexandraKouk well that's what I thought it was until #eltchat started
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:19 PM
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RT @AlexandraKouk: grabbing the opportunity when it presents itself and create sth teachable/learnable from almost scratch? #ELTChat
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bealer81
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9/7/2011
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2:19 PM
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#eltchat teachable moments = seizing a chance to inject something else into the lesson that wasn't in the lesson plan. Going 'off piste'!!!
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:19 PM
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@JoHart so maybe feeling your way through them and then perfecting this skill to add to lesson planning ? #eltchat
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:19 PM
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RT @cybraryman1: Carpe diem - Seize the Moment. That unplanned moment that the teacher can share insight with students #ELTChat
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:19 PM
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grabbing the opportunity when it presents itself and create sth teachable/learnable from almost scratch? #ELTChat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:20 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: @AlexandraKouk yes and Oh No - I can feel sth beginning with d coming on #ELTChat > i knew it! i'm psychic!
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:20 PM
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@danielsdottir welcome :) I agree with u , interaction is important in teach and learning #eltchat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:20 PM
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@rliberni #ELTchat yes tho! often not detailed planning just a feel that something might "take off"
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:20 PM
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RT @mmgrinberg: Has it something to do with Vygotskyan ZPD? http://j.mp/bFkO3L #eltchat
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:20 PM
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RT @bealer81: #eltchat teachable moments = seizing a chance 2 inject something else in2 the lesson that wasn'έΑο (cont) http://t.co/InsHkP4
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:20 PM
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@Marisa_C fight it Marisa! #eltchat
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Mr_Schenk
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9/7/2011
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2:20 PM
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@AlexandraKouk #ELTChat I'd subscribe that!
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:20 PM
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Has it something to do with Vygotskyan ZPD? http://j.mp/bFkO3L #eltchat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:20 PM
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off hand - unplanned - bt are relevant, generate interest n hook the learners - teachable? #eltchat
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:21 PM
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would seizing the moment require experience and confidence? #ELTChat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:21 PM
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@JoHart @rliberni @cybraryman1 Jerry too told this 'seize the moment' #ELTchat
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:21 PM
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@cherrymp @Shaunwilden we're being human right? Humanly teachers ;) #ELTChat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:21 PM
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@rliberni #ELTchat also being always ready to seize the moment
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Mr_Schenk
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9/7/2011
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2:21 PM
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@bealer81 #ELTChat good definiton imho
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aClilToClimb
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9/3/2011
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2:21 PM
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@cgoodey tagxedo You may like to note my resources link: http://t.co/kfMnFR8 #eltchat #elt #PLN
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:22 PM
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RT @AlexandraKouk: would seizing the moment require experience and confidence? #ELTChat
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ClaudiaCostin
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9/7/2011
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2:22 PM
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RT @daysealbar: ENGLISH TEACHERS Join us on #eltchat happening now ! Valuable chat with teachers from all the world. (Please, RT)
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:22 PM
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teachable moments : mistakes correction , we can ask Ss to correct themselives or correct each others #eltchat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:22 PM
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I think 'teachable moments' are somewhat complementary to ZPD. We should be ready with the right things at the very right time #eltchat
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Mr_Schenk
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9/7/2011
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2:22 PM
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#ELTChat are there any systematic ways of "seizing the moment" when a teachable moment occurs?
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:22 PM
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@yitzha_sarwono @Shaunwilden of course - looking for 'teachable' moments (tho we're still stuck trying to u's what it means!) #ELTChat
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JulieRaikou
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9/7/2011
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2:22 PM
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@JoHart @rliberni Teachable moments = moments of empathy @MelvinBurgess "Kill All Enemies" must for EFL tchers @marekandrews #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:22 PM
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RT @AlexandraKouk: would seizing the moment require experience and confidence? #ELTChat > not always
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:23 PM
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Tms often occur in a state of vacuum when ss have confused and find themsvs in need of something #eltchat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:23 PM
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@cherrymp @rliberni @cybraryman1 Siorry missed the tweet Jerry - worked in teaching horse riding - entirely seize moment & mood #ELTchat
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cybraryman1
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9/7/2011
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2:23 PM
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Example: I once had students arguing. I stopped class & organized an impromptu debate which worked very well #ELTchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:23 PM
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RT @bealer81: #eltchat teachable moments aren't something that can be taught. It's down to experience and having the courage to experiment.
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:23 PM
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RT @Mr_Schenk: #ELTChat are there any systematic ways of "seizing the moment" when a teachable moment occurs?
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:23 PM
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RT @ClaudiaCostin: RT @daysealbar: ENGLISH TEACHERS Join us on #eltchat happening now ! Valuable chat with teachers from all the world. (Please, RT)
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:23 PM
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RT @ClaudiaCostin: RT @daysealbar: ENGLISH TEACHERS Join us on #eltchat happening now ! Valuable chat with teachers from all the world. (Please, RT)
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bealer81
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9/7/2011
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2:23 PM
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#eltchat teachable moments aren't something that can be taught. It's down to experience and having the courage to experiment.
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mscro1
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9/3/2011
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2:23 PM
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I hope this works, wish @abromz happy b-day RT pls #ELTchat #ELtpics http://t.co/eIIMhto @bamarcia @LidijaKέΑο (cont) http://t.co/8GTuQXC
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:24 PM
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@TyKendall am still not sure what they are - is it the topic dealing with the topic, the language helpppppp #eltchat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:24 PM
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@TyKendall Ok, let's define 'unteachable moments'. Do they exist? #eltchat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:24 PM
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@TyKendall oh no teachable moments are there - all the time. #eltchat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:24 PM
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#ELTchat teachable moments often depend on "mood" & group dynamic of the day
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:24 PM
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RT @bealer81: #eltchat teachable moments aren't something that can be taught. It's down to experience and having the courage to experiment.
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:24 PM
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perhaps have a "bag of tricks" - a store of some easily adaptable activities to use at a moment's notice? #ELTChat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:24 PM
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#eltchat i'm still confused, just like Santa and the Easter Bunny i'm starting to doubt the existence of teachable moments
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:24 PM
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RT @cybraryman1: Example: I once had students arguing. I stopped class & organized an impromptu debate which worked very well #ELTchat
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aClilToClimb
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9/3/2011
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2:24 PM
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@cgoodey If you want more creative ideas on word clouds: http://t.co/GyY0aok #eltchat #ukedchat #elt #PLN
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:25 PM
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RT @TyKendall: #eltchat shouldn't every moment in class be a teachable moment? - quite!
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:25 PM
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@bealer81 thank you so much for that insight :-) #eltchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:25 PM
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#eltchat shouldn't every moment in class be a teachable moment?
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bealer81
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9/7/2011
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2:25 PM
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#eltchat why spend hours discussing what a teachable moment is? We know they exist. We should encourage teachers to exploit them.
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timbuckteeth
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9/7/2011
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2:25 PM
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RT @bealer81: #eltchat teachable moments aren't something that can be taught. It's down to experience and having the courage to experiment.
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:25 PM
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RT @cherrymp: @TyKendall oh no teachable moments are there - all the time. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:25 PM
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Come on goof #ELTchat folk - we ARE talking about dogme - let's not do this under cover - come out into the light of day
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:25 PM
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RT @bealer81: #eltchat teachable moments aren't something that can be taught. It's down to experience and having the courage to experiment.
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:26 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @TyKendall: #eltchat shouldn't every moment in class be a teachable moment? - ABSOLUTELY!
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:26 PM
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sorry to leave it here. bye. #eltchat
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bealer81
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9/7/2011
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2:26 PM
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#eltchat Teachable moments are specific to that group of students, that individual and of course to the teacher.
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diggers27
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9/7/2011
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2:26 PM
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RT @timbuckteeth: RT @bealer81: #eltchat teachable moments aren't something that can be taught. It's down to experience and having the courage to experiment.
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:26 PM
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@bealer81 i think they are chances can be taken to make sure terms or information are going to be taught in the best way ever #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:26 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: RT @TyKendall: #eltchat shouldn't every moment in class be a teachable moment? - ABSOLUTELY!
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:27 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Not wholesale dogme perhaps, bt 'dogme moments' when T seizes sm perceived opportunity to exploit a moment of peak interest in sth #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:27 PM
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Not wholesale dogme perhaps, bt 'dogme moments' when T seizes sm perceived opportunity to exploit a moment of peak interest in sth #ELTchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:27 PM
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@cherrymp thank you for your input Cherry gr8 to see you here :-) #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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9/1/2011
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2:27 PM
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RT @sandymillin: Please canyou leave some #comments4kids on our Italian students' blog: http://t.co/1qvlRm5. Thks! #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:28 PM
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@AlexandraKouk Yes, those tricks up your sleeve :-) #eltchat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:28 PM
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@Marisa_C #ELTchat seems dogme is ELT - it is how I always teach ie throw away the plan (often don't have 1) teach to need & situation
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:28 PM
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RT @AlexandraKouk: perhaps having a "bag of tricks" - a store of easily adaptable activities 2 use at a moment's notice wld help exploit ths moments? #ELTChat
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:28 PM
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perhaps having a "bag of tricks" - a store of easily adaptable activities 2 use at a moment's notice wld help exploit ths moments? #ELTChat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:28 PM
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@Marisa_C @rliberni @Shaunwilden @TyKendall I'm not sure it's possible. There's always a kind of fluctuation of enrgy lvls in class #eltchat
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:28 PM
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#ELTChat Teachable:important to keep in mind,unless the time is right, learning will not occur.think we're on the right time now :) #ELTChat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:29 PM
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@Marisa_C #ELTchat dogme style is inevitable in eg teaching horse riding/management because not only students but horse moods etc
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:29 PM
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RT @PrettyButWise: @bealer81 smart teacher not only can make teachable moments useful but also creat some #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:29 PM
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@bealer81 smart teacher not only can make teachable moments useful but also creat some #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:29 PM
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RT @Raquel_EFL: RT @bealer81: #eltchat why spend hours discussing what a teachable moment is? We know they exist. We should enέΑο (cont) http://t.co/F24ggZU
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:29 PM
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@AlexandraKouk Sure, a bag of tricks is a perfect moment-catching tool :P #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:29 PM
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And I should add tht they r necessary bcz usually unexpeced, unpredictable so experience & training needed 2 make most out of them #eltchat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:30 PM
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@JoHart #ELTchat absolutely - create teachables by handing control to students
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:30 PM
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@mmgrinberg I think it's about reading your class and your students, being in tune with them and their energy and dynamic #eltchat
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:30 PM
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@AlexandraKouk totally agree ^^ #ELTChat
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:30 PM
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@mmgrinberg :-))) #ELTChat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:30 PM
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@JoHart te he he i love the analogy #ELTchat
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:30 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: And I should add tht they r necessary bcz usually unexpeced, unpredictable so experience & training needed 2 make most out of them #eltchat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:30 PM
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RT @PrettyButWise: @bealer81 smart teacher not only can make teachable moments useful but also creat some #eltchat
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:31 PM
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RT @JoHart: @JoHart #ELTchat absolutely - create teachables by handing control to students
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:31 PM
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@PrettyButWise @bealer81 @AlexandraKouk oops tweeted self #ELTchat absolutely - create teachables by handing control to students
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:31 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: RT @TyKendall: #eltchat shouldn't every moment in class be a teachable moment? - quite!
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digitalemerge
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9/7/2011
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2:31 PM
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@rliberni #eltchat I would add being confident with your abilities and content too.
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cherrymp
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9/1/2011
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2:31 PM
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RT @sandymillin: Plz can u leave sme #comments4kids on our Italian students' blog: http://t.co/tyQkY0V. Thanks! #eltchat #engchat #elt #efl
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vbenevolofranca
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9/7/2011
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2:32 PM
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RT @rliberni: @mmgrinberg I think it's about reading your class and your students, being in tune with them and their energy and dynamic #eltchat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:32 PM
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RT @rliberni: @mmgrinberg I think it's about reading your class and your students, being in tune with them and their energy and dynamic #eltchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:32 PM
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RT @mmgrinberg Ok, let's define 'unteachable moments'. Do they exist? #eltchat > trying to teach smth beyond ss level perhaps?
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:32 PM
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@rliberni 'in tune' means learning to empathize, which in turn means inducing trance and this is a key teaching skill, indeed #eltchat
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cherrymp
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9/7/2011
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2:32 PM
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Research Notes Archive http://t.co/FAqi5fc from Cambridge ESOL #eltchat #elt #esl #efl #academic #publishing #research #testing #fb
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help4ielts
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9/4/2011
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2:32 PM
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Teens were getting bored of facebook http://t.co/1vJZsl3 bt school bans got 'em interested again http://t.co/LnHIDo3. #eltchat #efl
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:33 PM
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@TyKendall It's also about being at the wrong time with the right things, like when they're focused on smth else #eltchat
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xcultures
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9/4/2011
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2:33 PM
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RT @help4ielts: Teens were getting bored of facebook http://t.co/1vJZsl3 bt school bans got 'em interested again http://t.co/LnHIDo3. #eltchat #efl
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digitalemerge
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9/7/2011
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2:34 PM
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#eltchat teachable vs. unteachable moments. I would refer back to the ZPD as said by @mmgrinberg earlier
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:34 PM
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RT @daysealbar: @Marisa_C Agree! But should they be considered more motivating/engaging than the planned moments?#eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:34 PM
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RT @mmgrinberg: @TyKendall It's also about being at the wrong time with the right things, like when they're focused on smth else #eltchat
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:34 PM
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@Marisa_C Agree! But should they be considered more motivating/engaging than the planned moments?#eltchat
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:34 PM
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RT @mmgrinberg: @TyKendall It's also about being at the wrong time with the right things, like when they're focused on smth else #eltchat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:34 PM
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@Marisa_C #ELTchat LOL its the one a can talk about most - as if horses riders not good match all goes out of the window :)
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cherrymp
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9/1/2011
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2:34 PM
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English Language Teacher Education and Development (ELTED) Vol. 13 now Available http://t.co/DduN9XS #eltchat #engchat #td #iTDi #tt #cpd
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:35 PM
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#eltchat whats ZPD?
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:35 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: @daysealbar not necessarily - I agree with @Shaunwilden that it's our job to make ALL moments teachable #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:35 PM
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RT @rliberni: @mmgrinberg I think it's about reading your class and your students, being in tune with them and their energy and dynamic #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:35 PM
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@digitalemerge yes I think this kind of teaching comes with experience which gives confidence #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:35 PM
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@daysealbar not necessarily - I agree with @Shaunwilden that it's our job to make ALL moments teachable #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:36 PM
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@rliberni so back to magic , ooomph and aha!!!! :-D #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:36 PM
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@TyKendall http://t.co/BuhWSrG @thornburyscott on it ZPD #eltchat
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English_don
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9/7/2011
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2:36 PM
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I think teachable moment is each moment the teacher is conscious that it's class time. #ELTchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:36 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @TyKendall here you go http://t.co/NAWPHj5 #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:36 PM
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@TyKendall here you go http://t.co/NAWPHj5 #eltchat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:36 PM
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@AlexandraKouk @TyKendall I must tell that for me a well prepared bag of tricks is the ultimate planning model. Don't tell my DOS. #eltchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:36 PM
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#eltchat oh yeah, long time since i read Vygotsky...
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:36 PM
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@Marisa_C I agree all moments should be teachable but some just might be magical too - would this be it #eltchat
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bealer81
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9/7/2011
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2:36 PM
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@Marisa_C @daysealbar only if the planned moments are otherwise. #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:36 PM
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@TyKendall Its a theory put forward by vygotsky #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:36 PM
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@TyKendall Zone of Proximal Development #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:36 PM
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@TyKendall Zone of Proximal Development #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:37 PM
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@JoHart @bealer81 @alexandrakouk yeah but a smart and creative studend who can lead the group to smthng new #eltchat
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:37 PM
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RT @rliberni: @digitalemerge yes I think this kind of teaching comes with experience which gives confidence #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:37 PM
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@Marisa_C I suppose it is certainly intangible perhaps #eltchat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:37 PM
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@daysealbar @Marisa_C #ELTchat - You shld not consider 1 more motivating than other - evaluate! In some cases planned better in other unplnd
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:38 PM
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@harrisonmike omg #eltchat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:38 PM
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@rliberni @digitalemerge @daysealbar Experience gives the confidence to throw away the "book" #ELTchat
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:38 PM
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@rliberni @Marisa_C oops two not 'too'! #eltchat
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digitalemerge
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9/7/2011
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2:38 PM
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@rliberni but I can see and almost pop the questions floating out of students' mouths like animated speech bubbles... #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:38 PM
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RT @English_don: I think teachable moment is each moment the teacher is conscious that it's class time. #ELTchat
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:38 PM
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@rliberni @Marisa_C Is teaching an art or a craft? I'd wager a bit of the too ;o) #eltchat
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:39 PM
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@JoHart @rliberni @digitalemerge YES! YES! YES! YES! #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:39 PM
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@Raquel_EFL Well, Rule No 1 - Do not get GLUED to your plan - it's there as a guideline #ELTCHAT
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digitalemerge
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9/7/2011
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2:39 PM
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@JoHart #eltchat ... becareful in which direction you throw that book
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brad5patterson
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9/7/2011
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2:39 PM
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RT @mmgrinberg 'in tune' means learning to empathize, which means inducing trance and this is a key teaching skill #eltchat > what's trance?
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JulieRaikou
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9/7/2011
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2:39 PM
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#eltchat @Marisa_C @rliberni Magical moments = empathy @MelvinBurgess "Kill All Enemies" must for EFL tchers @marekandrews
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:39 PM
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@mmgrinberg @AlexandraKouk @TyKendall #eltchat rsrsrs neither mine.
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robertacarmina
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9/7/2011
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2:39 PM
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RT @ClaudiaCostin: RT @daysealbar: ENGLISH TEACHERS Join us on #eltchat happening now ! Valuable chat with teachers from all the world. (Please, RT)
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brad5patterson
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9/7/2011
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2:40 PM
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RT @JoHart: @rliberni @digitalemerge @daysealbar Experience gives the confidence to throw away the "book" #ELTchat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:40 PM
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@digitalemerge Out of the window LOL #ELTchat as long as I keep enough control to make sure they don't "hurt" one another
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:40 PM
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RT @brad5patterson: RT @mmgrinberg 'in tune' means learning to empathize, which means inducing trance and this is a key teaching skill #eltchat > what's trance?
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:40 PM
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RT @JoHart: @rliberni @digitalemerge @daysealbar Experience gives the confidence to throw away the "book" #ELTchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:40 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: @Raquel_EFL Well, Rule No 1 - Do not get GLUED to your plan - it's there as a guideline #ELTCHAT
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:41 PM
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@yitzha_sarwono let's make that rule no 3 #ELTChat
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digitalemerge
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9/7/2011
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2:41 PM
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@JoHart #eltchat perhaps if the book did hit someone, a teachable moment could happen? medical English?
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:41 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Rule No 2 - Do not be afraid to ABANDON plan if u regognise an oppotunity 4 more meaningful learning #ELtchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:41 PM
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RT @yitzha_sarwono: @Marisa_C @Raquel_EFL always have a back up plan and seize between the moments in class #ELTChat
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:41 PM
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@Marisa_C @Raquel_EFL always have a back up plan and seize between the moments in class #ELTChat
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:41 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Rule No 2 - Do not be afraid to ABANDON plan if u regognise an oppotunity 4 more meaningful learning #ELtchat
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bealer81
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9/7/2011
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2:41 PM
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#eltchat are we still defining? Or do we all agree that Dogme rules?
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:41 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: @Raquel_EFL Well, Rule No 1 - Do not get GLUED to your plan - it's there as a guideline #ELTCHAT
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:41 PM
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Rule No 2 - Do not be afraid to ABANDON plan if u regognise an oppotunity 4 more meaningful learning #ELtchat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:42 PM
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@digitalemerge #ELTchat yest but think of all the forms to fill in LOL
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:42 PM
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Did sb say dogme rules - oh no I can feel my hackles rising #eltchat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:42 PM
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@yitzha_sarwono @Marisa_C @Raquel_EFL Agree in principle but still need to be able to think/teach on yr feet - especially with tech #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:42 PM
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Rule No 3 - ALWAYS have a Plan B - in case sth does not work #ELTchat
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kirkymon
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9/1/2011
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2:42 PM
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RT @ShellTerrell: These are homework tasks I have given to my adult English language learners in their wiki http://t.co/Ag83w4t #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:43 PM
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@Marisa_C Rule 4 - welcome the expected and unexpected, allow the world in to your classroom and teaching? No anodyne stuff please! #eltchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:43 PM
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@Shaunwilden #eltchat not a fan of dogme either then shaun?
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:43 PM
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@JoHart @Marisa_C #eltchat YES.In many cases we realize that only when in class.What we thought would be a TM, is not. URGENT ADAPTION.
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brad5patterson
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9/7/2011
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2:43 PM
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RT @bealer81: #eltchat are we still defining? Or do we all agree that Dogme rules?
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:44 PM
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@harrisonmike no anodyne shd really be Rule no 5 - it's very important #eltchat
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hoprea
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9/7/2011
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2:44 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Rule No 2 - Do not be afraid to ABANDON plan if u regognise an oppotunity 4 more meaningful learning #ELtchat
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digitalemerge
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9/7/2011
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2:44 PM
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@yitzha_sarwono back up plan = teaching didn't go to plan but I'm ready to make more teachable moments. #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:44 PM
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@TyKendall The principles sort of, the hype no, it is just good teaching but it has its limitations - cue the hate tweets #eltchat
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:44 PM
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@Marisa_C Or even a plan B, C, D ... to be used in the same class w/ all sorts of st learning styles. #eltchat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:44 PM
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@brad5patterson For me it's a special state of mind when a subject is particrly focused on a matter and not focused on evthg else #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:44 PM
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@Raquel_EFL no just plain ABANDON and SEIZE so-called "teachable moment' opportunity - or just change to PLan B #ELtchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:45 PM
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Rule No 5 - Avoid the anodyne and wishy washy #ELTchat be as funny or as serious or silly or weird but don't be indifferent #ELTchat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:45 PM
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@brad5patterson It interestingly corresponds to some physiological phenomena (patterns of breathing, eye fixation etc) #eltchat
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bealer81
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9/7/2011
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2:45 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @TyKendall The principles sort of, the hype no, it is just good teaching but it has its limitations - cue the hate tweets #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:45 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: @Marisa_C Rule 4 - welcome the expected and unexpected, allow the world in to your classroom and teaching? No anodyne stuff please! #eltchat
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brad5patterson
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9/7/2011
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2:45 PM
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@mmgrinberg i know exactly what you mean and that's what I thought you meant. just checking. never heard it put like that. cheers #eltchat
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cybraryman1
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9/2/2011
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2:45 PM
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@CassyLL My Educational Chats page: : http://t.co/aSojjVY See: #ellchat #eltchat #4thchat ...
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:46 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: @Marisa_C Rule 4 - welcome the expected and unexpected, allow the world in to your classroom and teaching? No anodyne stuff please! #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:46 PM
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I think we're beginning to get somewhere - even if it's not going where we originally intended to go #ELTchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:46 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: Don't be afraid to provoke within reason! RT @Marisa_C: @harrisonmike no anodyne shd really be Rule no 5 - it's very important #eltchat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:46 PM
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@daysealbar Yep imho what makes a good teacher is ability to seize on ANYTHING including power cut & USE it to teach #ELTchat
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:46 PM
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talented teachers might never face a problem with teachable moments and they never waste them ,others can try to do so #eltchat
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:46 PM
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@digitalemerge hehehe,that will define whether we can 'survive' the class right? #ELTChat
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:46 PM
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Don't be afraid to provoke within reason! RT @Marisa_C: @harrisonmike no anodyne shd really be Rule no 5 - it's very important #eltchat
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digitalemerge
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9/7/2011
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2:46 PM
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@Marisa_C #eltchat No. 5 is alive!
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:47 PM
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RT @JoHart: @daysealbar Yep imho what makes a good teacher is ability to seize on ANYTHING including power cut & USE it to teach #ELTchat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:47 PM
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@daysealbar PS seizing on power cut is hard when you teach entirely online as do I "chuckle" #ELTchat
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:47 PM
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RT @JoHart: @daysealbar Yep imho what makes a good teacher is ability to seize on ANYTHING including power cut & USE it to teach #ELTchat
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:47 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: @Marisa_C Rule 4 - welcome the expected and unexpected, allow the world in to your classroom and teaching? No anodyne stuff please! #eltchat
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digitalemerge
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9/7/2011
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2:47 PM
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#eltchat thanks for the chat everyone. bye!
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:47 PM
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@JoHart agree turn everything to advantage - makes it more fun and interesting - the unexpected is often remembered! #eltchat
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brad5patterson
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9/7/2011
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2:47 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Rule No 5 - Avoid the anodyne and wishy washy #ELTchat be as funny or as serious or silly or weird but don't be indifferent #ELTchat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:47 PM
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@brad5patterson I think that client experience of ericksonian trance helped me a lot 2 feel when TMs occur in class #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:48 PM
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Do coursebooks allow the space for a teachable/learnable moment? I look at double page spread and they are just too BUSY #eltchat
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:48 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Rule No 5 - Avoid the anodyne and wishy washy #ELTchat be as funny or as serious or silly or weird but don't be indifferent #ELTchat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:48 PM
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@brad5patterson What do you mean by TM-based? #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:48 PM
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RT @rliberni: @JoHart agree turn everything to advantage - makes it more fun and interesting - the unexpected is often remembered! #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:48 PM
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@digitalemerge thank you for your input interesting chat today :-) #eltchat
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brad5patterson
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9/7/2011
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2:48 PM
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@mmgrinberg interesting ideas indeed. So this is more TM-based than pedagogical (of course the two can marry quite happily) #eltchat
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3ty3
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9/1/2011
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2:48 PM
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RT @cherrymp: English Language Teacher Education and Development (ELTED) Vol. 13 now Available http://t.co/DduN9XS #eltchat #engchat #td #iTDi #tt #cpd
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:49 PM
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@brad5patterson I think I might be going into a LM :-D point #ELTchat
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brad5patterson
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9/7/2011
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2:49 PM
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RT @rliberni: @digitalemerge thank you for your input interesting chat today :-) #eltchat
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brad5patterson
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9/7/2011
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2:49 PM
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RT @Marisa_C I think we're beginning to get somewhere, even if its not going where we originally intended to go #ELTchat > learnable moment!
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:49 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: Do coursebooks allow the space for a teachable/learnable moment? I look at double page spread and they are just too BUSY #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:50 PM
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RT @rliberni: @digitalemerge thank you for your input interesting chat today :-) #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:50 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: I'm not sure teachable moments can be 100% programmed (in a course/book/lesson), only sensed and acted upon. #eltchat
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:50 PM
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@brad5patterson @mmgrinberg #eltchat Liked idea of being more TM-based than pedagogical. Although I feel they should be considered the same.
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:50 PM
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RT @brad5patterson: RT @Marisa_C I think we're beginning to get somewhere, even if its not going where we originally intended to go #ELTchat > learnable moment!
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:50 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Rule No 5 - Avoid the anodyne and wishy washy #ELTchat be as funny or as serious or silly or weird but don't be indifferent #ELTchat
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:50 PM
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I'm not sure teachable moments can be 100% programmed (in a course/book/lesson), only sensed and acted upon. #eltchat
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:51 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: I'm not sure teachable moments can be 100% programmed (in a course/book/lesson), only sensed and acted upon. #eltchat
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mmgrinberg
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9/7/2011
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2:51 PM
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@harrisonmike @Shaunwilden Agree, and yet I think that some activities can be more conducive to learning than others #eltchat
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:51 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: @AlexandraKouk they do but you have to work harder to animate a coursebook #ELTchat > so true!
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vbenevolofranca
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9/7/2011
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2:51 PM
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@Shaunwilden @harrisonmike Yes, if it emerges from teacher/learner interaction with something from book, it is possible I think #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:51 PM
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@harrisonmike Yes Agree there Mike, so we have to ensure teachers recognise those moments #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:51 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: I'm not sure teachable moments can be 100% programmed (in a course/book/lesson), only sensed and acted upon. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:51 PM
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@Raquel_EFL indeed! #ELTchat
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:51 PM
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@Marisa_C @brad5patterson LOL... TM=LM or not? #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:51 PM
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@AlexandraKouk they do but you have to work harder to animate a coursebook #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:52 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: @vbenevolofranca @Shaunwilden interaction is the key isn't it, but then that's really what you should do anyway #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:52 PM
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@vbenevolofranca @Shaunwilden interaction is the key isn't it, but then that's really what you should do anyway #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:52 PM
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can u give us examples for teachable moments ? #eltchat
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brad5patterson
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9/7/2011
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2:52 PM
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#ELTCHAT so, the final equation today is T = L and inversely L = T ;-)
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:52 PM
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@harrisonmike #eltchat AGREE 100%
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bealer81
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9/7/2011
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2:52 PM
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@harrisonmike Couldn't agree more. Experience, experience, experience. #eltchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:53 PM
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#eltchat i think i have TM blindness
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:53 PM
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@AlexandraKouk I think that takes good interaction with the class, good rapport and experience #eltchat
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:53 PM
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RT @brad5patterson: #ELTCHAT so, the final equation today is T = L and inversely L = T ;-)
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:53 PM
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@vbenevolofranca @Shaunwilden Wat I mean is really u can't look at a coursebook/lessonplan and go 'ah yes, teachable moments here' #eltchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:53 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @AlexandraKouk: @Shaunwilden so, to come full circle, how do we recognise TMs? #ELTChat
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kirkymon
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9/7/2011
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2:53 PM
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RT @cherrymp: What's the future of language #testing? http://t.co/h59pbbT #video #TeachingEnglish #BritishCouncil #BBC #eltchat #esl #efl #evaluation #fb
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:53 PM
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RT @mmgrinberg: @harrisonmike @Shaunwilden Agree, and yet I think that some activities can be more conducive to learning than others #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:53 PM
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RT @AlexandraKouk: @Shaunwilden so, to come full circle, how do we recognise TMs? #ELTChat
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:53 PM
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@mmgrinberg @harrisonmike @Shaunwilden #eltchat I think it depends on the structure and students we have.
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:53 PM
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@Shaunwilden so, to come full circle, how do we recognise TMs? #ELTChat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:54 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Rule No 6 When you DO eventually recognise a TM as a TM don't let the opportunity pass u by :-) #ELTchat
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:54 PM
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@Marisa_C I think it's when you know you have to 'digress', it's the right thing to do - experience? #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:54 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @AlexandraKouk: @Shaunwilden so, to come full circle, how do we recognise TMs? #ELTChat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:54 PM
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Rule No 6 When you DO eventually recognise a TM as a TM don't let the opportunity pass u by :-) #ELTchat
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:54 PM
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@brad5patterson #eltchat equation, ok. But should they be = at exactly the same moment?
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:54 PM
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@TyKendall Ok tell us about your blindness - #eltchat Have I made that a TM? :-)
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:54 PM
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RT @Shaunwilden: @AlexandraKouk I think that takes good interaction with the class, good rapport and experience #eltchat
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vbenevolofranca
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9/7/2011
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2:54 PM
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@Shaunwilden @harrisonmike Absolutely! Fundamental element! #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:55 PM
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@rliberni Berni, I think this is what every good teacher DOES - part of the brief, unless being assessed & fear abandoning LP #eltchat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:55 PM
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@PrettyButWise Not in 140 chars - will try to post on blog with #ELTchat - but I am lit/num lecturer with occ ESL not strictly ELT
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yitzha_sarwono
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9/7/2011
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2:55 PM
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@Shaunwilden @harrisonmike recognizing the moments and cherish them for our next teaching moments #ELTChat
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English_don
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9/7/2011
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2:56 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: @rliberni Berni, I think this is what every good teacher DOES - part of the brief, unless being assessed & fear abandoning LP #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:56 PM
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@TyKendall Yep me too #eltchat
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:56 PM
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@harrisonmike @vbenevolofranca @Shaunwilden #eltchat Many times we think sth in a book is a TM for a group... but it ends up not being.
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:56 PM
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@Marisa_C even make sure to use the best method to use it correctly #eltchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:56 PM
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#eltchat maybe its because i see every moment as a potential TM :-) @Shaunwilden
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:57 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Rule No 7 - Build good RAPPORT with your learners, so they will open up and let u SEE when they are ready to learn #ELTchat
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daysealbar
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9/7/2011
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2:57 PM
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@Marisa_C @AlexandraKouk @Shaunwilden #eltchat I've had the most different opinions so far. Now I guess it's when STs are not indifferent.
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brad5patterson
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9/7/2011
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2:57 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: Ask your learners? #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:57 PM
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Rule No 7 - Build good RAPPORT with your learners, so they will open up and let u SEE when they are ready to learn #ELTchat
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:57 PM
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Ah la vie! RT @TyKendall: #eltchat maybe its because i see every moment as a potential TM :-) @Shaunwilden
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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2:57 PM
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@Marisa_C Yes, true but it should be seen as a strength - the instinct to know when to do this #eltchat
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AlexandraKouk
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9/7/2011
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2:57 PM
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T usually senses when Ss are uninterested in an activity or - quite the opposite: they feel like exploring a sidetrack #ELTChat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:57 PM
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RT @shirleyteacher: a sine qua non condition 4 recogn a TM is RAPPORT . #eltchat - indeed, a KEY concept
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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2:57 PM
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Ask your learners? #eltchat
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JoHart
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9/7/2011
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2:58 PM
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RT @rliberni: @Marisa_C I think it's when you know you have to 'digress', it's the right thing to do - experience? #eltchat
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bealer81
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9/7/2011
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2:58 PM
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#eltchat Good chat today, thanks. To conclude, trying to cook lunch and keep up with eltchat is near on impossible.
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WarwickLanguage
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9/7/2011
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2:58 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Rule No 7 - Build good RAPPORT with your learners, so they will open up and let u SEE when they are ready to learn #ELTchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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2:58 PM
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#eltchat i like how Marisa is writing her own rule book here... :-)
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kirkymon
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9/1/2011
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2:58 PM
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RT @cybraryman1: #ELTchat Your HW assignment: Review My Collection of English Teacher blogs, sites, wikisέΑοhttp://t.co/V3SmUM3
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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2:59 PM
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@bealer81 So you had a learnable moment then :-) #eltchat
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brad5patterson
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9/7/2011
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2:59 PM
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Thanks ALL ! Enjoyed catching 2nd half of #ELTchat Enjoy the rest of your day ;-)
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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2:59 PM
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My rule no 7 should have been rule NO 1 #ELTchat
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:59 PM
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@JoHart will* #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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2:59 PM
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@JoHart agree and wait for ur post , it's ok that we give close sight on TMs as ESL #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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3:00 PM
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RT @harrisonmike: When T's interested in Ss, Ss interested in content and/or T's way of presenting itBut no magic formulaor diagram #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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3:00 PM
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@TyKendall Hey Ty come back, we need a summary writer......;-) #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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9/7/2011
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3:00 PM
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When T's interested in Ss, Ss interested in content and/or T's way of presenting it. But there isn't a magic formula or diagram... #eltchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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3:00 PM
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here's a TM....skip out on the #eltchat before you get asked to write the summary....BYE FOLKS see you tonight!
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Shaunwilden
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9/7/2011
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3:00 PM
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@Marisa_C Rules are there to be broken #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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9/7/2011
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3:00 PM
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@brad5patterson cheers Brad :-) have fun #ELTchat
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brad5patterson
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9/6/2011
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3:00 PM
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RT @acliltoclimb: Watch my latest interview w/ Sharon @hartle http://ow.ly/6lXtI Who's gonna be the next? #elt #efl #eltchat #ukedchat #PLN
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brad5patterson
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9/5/2011
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3:00 PM
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#blogmust 2day: To LESSON PLAN or NOT to LESSON PLANέΑοthat is the question! by @tonygurr http://ow.ly/6lrgB #elt #tesol #eltchat
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TyKendall
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9/7/2011
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3:01 PM
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@Shaunwilden #eltchat No way! I couldn't get my head around it being here.....i think we should ask the person who suggested topic
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rliberni
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9/7/2011
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3:01 PM
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Turned out 2 b a very thought provoking chat today thx everyone & my two mods who never let a TM go by @Marisa_C & @Shaunwilden #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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9/7/2011
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3:01 PM
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RT @Marisa_C: Rule No 7 - Build good RAPPORT with your learners, so they will open up and let u SEE when they are ready to learn #ELTchat
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