Marisa_C

2:00 P.M.

RT @barbsaka: Go! #eltchat Is a MATESOL a good investment or an expensive luxury?

naomishema

2:00 P.M.

Hi all! So glad to be able to participate - last week's tech problems were so disappointing #eltchat

barbsaka

2:00 P.M.

Go! #eltchat Is a MATESOL a good investment or an expensive luxury?

efl101

2:00 P.M.

Don't have one personally, would be interested to know if any career value as is expensive to get one? #eltchat

naomishema

2:01 P.M.

#eltchat - Just for the record - my MA is in curriculum development not TESOL

Zwrzi

2:01 P.M.

@Marisa_C Having experienced one, I am more to the luxury option, really. #eltchat

cioccas

2:01 P.M.

RT @gknightbkk: Before an MA I understood teaching. After the MA I understood learning #eltchat

DanielaArghir

2:01 P.M.

@efl101 Don't have one either, interested in replies... #eltchat

efl101

2:01 P.M.

does where or who you do it it with make a difference, does anyone talk about that?

Marisa_C

2:01 P.M.

For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to the discussion on #ELTchat @barbsaka and myself moderating - ask us for help if new

gknightbkk

2:01 P.M.

Before an MA I understood teaching. After the MA I understood learning #eltchat

cioccas

2:01 P.M.

Definitely career value in my teaching context - adult ed in Australia #ELTchat

bealer81

2:01 P.M.

What are the prerequisites for an MA? #eltchat

OUPELTGlobal

2:01 P.M.

Hello everyone. Looking forward to an interesting discussion. #eltchat

barbsaka

2:01 P.M.

@naomishema Happy to have another chance! #eltchat

EveWeb

2:01 P.M.

RT @cybraryman1: #eltchat is on NOW (7am EST) Topic: The value of an MA in ELT   My  English Teachers page: http://t.co/6WEAbBg

barbsaka

2:02 P.M.

I have an MATESOL. ALso have a BA in teaching English, so I think I'm in the minority :) #eltchat

cioccas

2:02 P.M.

I have an MA TESOL #ELTchat

OUPELTGlobal

2:02 P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: RT @gknightbkk: Before an MA I understood teaching. After the MA I understood learning #eltchat> great opening :-)

llea_dias

2:02 P.M.

Hello from Brazil !!!1 #eltchat

efl101

2:02 P.M.

@gknightbkk meaning? #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:02 P.M.

RT @Zwrzi: @Marisa_C Having experienced one, I am more to the luxury option, really. #eltchat > Why a luxury pls?

OUPELTGlobal

2:02 P.M.

For the next hour my tweets will be aimed at #eltchat

ELTExperiences

2:02 P.M.

#eltchat let me start - how many ppl have an MA? Those that don't why not?

Marisa_C

2:02 P.M.

RT @gknightbkk: Before an MA I understood teaching. After the MA I understood learning #eltchat> great opening :-)

dalecoulter

2:02 P.M.

#eltchat what are the differences in price? Is it more expensive in on country or another?

barbsaka

2:02 P.M.

@bealer81 only prereq I know of is a BA or a BS  #eltchat

barbsaka

2:03 P.M.

@efl101 The main reason at the time was I didn't like the teaching options open to me with a BA :) #eltchat

cioccas

2:03 P.M.

I wanted to do MA TESOL to learn more but also advised by manager that most teachers applying for jobs had MA #ELTchat

efl101

2:03 P.M.

@cioccas how does it help with career in Oz?

ELTExperiences

2:03 P.M.

#eltchat so is an MA worthy for investment? Can you really get a better job?

OUPELTGlobal

2:03 P.M.

I have an MA in TESOL #eltchat

efl101

2:03 P.M.

@barbsaka what made you decide to get one?

Zwrzi

2:03 P.M.

@Marisa_C In just a year I've learned what I've been learning in my undergraduate. My MA was just a revision. #eltchat

efl101

2:04 P.M.

@barbsaka okay, does that mean more places to teach or different institution level or better paid (managerial?) positions? #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:04 P.M.

@Zwrzi that doesn't sound like a very good MA I must say - where did you do it? #eltchat

naomishema

2:04 P.M.

#eltchat Having an MA opened allowed teaching at a teacher's college and gave a slight raise in salary

cioccas

2:04 P.M.

@efl101 @Marisa_C @ELTExperiences Definitely, and also how much expereince you have too sometimes #ELTchat

barbsaka

2:04 P.M.

In Asia, MA is pretty much required for good teaching jobs #eltchat

llea_dias

2:04 P.M.

Good question...RT @bealer81: What are the prerequisites for an MA? #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:04 P.M.

@ELTExperiences It really depends what kind of job you are looking for  #eltchat

llea_dias

2:04 P.M.

RT @gknightbkk: Before an MA I understood teaching. After the MA I understood learning #eltchat

DanielaArghir

2:04 P.M.

@Zwrzi @Marisa_C I'd like that, a revision... #eltchat

esolcourses

2:04P.M.

Updated: Dogme ELT on scoop.it - fresh links to recent articles & videos about teaching unplugged http://t.co/qnQVemO #elt #eltchat #dogme

cioccas

2:05 P.M.

@efl101 In government institutions - higher ed and further ed - an MA is an advantage in Australia #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:05 P.M.

RT @Zwrzi: @DanielaArghir But still CELTAs / DELTAs are of more value. #eltchat > for teaching yes, they are

bealer81

2:05 P.M.

@barbsaka So without a BA or BS it's unlikely i will be accepted? #eltchat

barbsaka

2:05 P.M.

@efl101 better schools, better money, option to teach university, ad admin #eltchat

EveWeb

2:05 P.M.

Good morning, all. I think it's an investment in PD. RT @barbsaka: Go! #eltchat Is a MATESOL a good investment or an expensive luxury?

Zwrzi

2:05 P.M.

@DanielaArghir But still CELTAs / DELTAs are of more value. #eltchat

ELTExperiences

2:05 P.M.

#eltchat I'm currently studying towards an MA and have learnt a great deal and met many ppl. That's a worthy investment for me.

DanielaArghir

2:06 P.M.

@Marisa_C @Zwrzi I would think so too #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:06 P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: From my perspective, I have seen that MA's themselves vary in value and kudos > #ELtchat oops fprgpt hashtag!

cioccas

2:06 P.M.

Would be impossible to get a job in my program with only a CELTA/DELTA I'm afraid #ELTchat

llea_dias

2:06 P.M.

Why do you say that?RT @Zwrzi: @DanielaArghir But still CELTAs / DELTAs are of more value. #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:06 P.M.

@efl101 It was a great MA - I did it in the Uni of Birmingham. BUT still, I had hoped for more practice. #eltchat

barbsaka

2:06 P.M.

@bealer81 Very unlikely these days. Used to be that being a native speaker was enough. No more :) #eltchat

Moacir2

2:06 P.M.

#eltchat I've got a BA in Lang/Lit. Don't think of pursuing MA.MA good for Academics-teaching @ Uni or so.Not my case.Prefer business world.

Blog4Edu

2:06 P.M.

via @vickyloras My Contribution to Eva BΓΌyΓΌksimkeΕyan’s Blog Carnival #24 – Warmers and Fillers http://t.co/izx5Ve7 #ELTChat

profesortbaker

2:06 P.M.

Chile Debates: This house believes that smoking should be prohibited in all public places http://t.co/9FM8iTk #Chile #eltchat #esl #pyp #efl

cioccas

2:07 P.M.

@efl101 @barbsaka The MA I did I felt was a good mix of theoretical and practical #ELTchat

barbsaka

2:07 P.M.

@efl101 Most MA in TESOL I know of are quite practical. Applied linguistics not always. Depends on school, I think.  #eltchat

gknightbkk

2:07 P.M.

before an MA I lacked the tools to evaluate the learning processes and outcomes in my classes #eltchat

naomishema

2:07 P.M.

#eltchat In Israel we are lucky that the gov. encourages getting MA - I got two years of partial tuition from them. really helped!

ELTExperiences

2:07 P.M.

#eltchat I found that an MA complemented my experience in teaching it also confirmed my intention to make a career in teaching.

efl101

2:07 P.M.

@barbsaka to what extent are MAs mostly theoretical rather than practical? and how does a delta compare to MA in adding value? #eltchat

JessieDriscoll

2:07 P.M.

RT @ELTExperiences: #eltchat so is an MA worthy for investment? Can you really get a better job?

Moacir2

2:07 P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: RT @Zwrzi: @DanielaArghir But still CELTAs / DELTAs are of more value. #eltchat > for teaching yes, they are

Zwrzi

2:07 P.M.

@llea_dias 'Cause most of TEFL jobs in Uk require CELT or DELTA. Not an MA. #eltchat

barbsaka

2:07 P.M.

@Zwrzi Do you have both certificate and MATESOL to compare? #eltchat

toral_a

2:07 P.M.

RT @rliberni: Learn a Language online http://t.co/gYQ6pQE #languages #eltchat #edchat

vickyloras

2:07 P.M.

My Contribution to Eva BΓΌyΓΌksimkeΕyan's Blog Carnival #24 - Warmers and Fillers http://t.co/y40PFSW #ELTChat #finnedchat #esl #esol

Moacir2

2:08 P.M.

#eltchat. Topic settled. Next topic?!

Zwrzi

2:08 P.M.

@barbsaka I've got my BA in TESOL and the same MA. The MA was more practical, though. #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:08 P.M.

@efl101 MA's vary - I remember when I opted for an MA in App Ling I did so bcz I felt an MA in TEFL was v much like my DELTA #eltchat

cioccas

2:08 P.M.

RT @barbsaka: @efl101 Most MA in TESOL I know of are quite practical.... Depends on school, I think.  #eltchat <Agree

Marisa_C

2:09 P.M.

RT @AnaCristinaPrts: #eltchat A MA also refines one's insights into how to do research.> very good point

barbsaka

2:09 P.M.

@naomishema  #eltchat ABSOLUTELY! I started in TESOL just after the shift, so many colleagues were going back to get MA to continue

AnaCristinaPrts

2:09 P.M.

#eltchat A MA also refines one's insights into how to do research.

efl101

2:09 P.M.

In the days of online access, content, forums, training, #eltchat etc. does a formal MA still have the same merit? #eltchat

OUPELTGlobal

2:09 P.M.

I got my MA for me first, the job opportunities came later #eltchat

naomishema

2:09 P.M.

@barbsaka #eltchat - it's good that being a native speaker isn't enough anymore. One can speak flawlessly and not know how to teach!

barbsaka

2:09 P.M.

@Zwrzi didn't you say that the CELTA was better value? Guess I asked the wrong person :) #eltchat

nutrich

2:09 P.M.

RT @antoniaclare: RT @DaveDodgson: By @willycard The word is half someone else’s http://t.co/qizfNP8 #ELTchat

OUPELTGlobal

2:10 P.M.

I found the experience of doing an MA disciplined me, gave me direction, whether I agreed with it or not #eltchat

EveWeb

2:10 P.M.

In Venezuela, having an MA doesn't guarantee we are going to obtain a higher position or salary. It's more focused on PD.  #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:10 P.M.

RT @barbsaka: Seems like the value of an MA in terms of jobs depends on what part of the world you want to teach in #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:10 P.M.

RT @barbsaka: Seems like the value of an MA in terms of jobs depends on what part of the world you want to teach in #eltchat

ELTExperiences

2:10 P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: RT @AnaCristinaPrts: #eltchat A MA also refines one's insights into how to do research.> very good point

cioccas

2:10 P.M.

RT @naomishema: #eltchat - it's good that being a native speaker isn't enough anymore. One can speak flawlessly and not know how to teach!

barbsaka

2:10 P.M.

Seems like the value of an MA in terms of jobs depends on what part of the world you want to teach in #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:10 P.M.

@barbsaka Yes, it was me! In CELTA you're assessed for your practice. In my MA we just practised. The assessment was by essays. #eltchat

ELTExperiences

2:10 P.M.

I do think so modular delta RT @dalecoulter: @ELTExperiences do you think an MA provides more in the way of contacts then a DELTA? #ELTchat

dalecoulter

2:10 P.M.

@naomishema completely agree  #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:11 P.M.

I hasten to say I am not pro British or pro-anything #ELTchat

philhart

2:11 P.M.

RT @barbsaka: In Asia, MA is pretty much required for good teaching jobs #eltchat >>> @DianeRavitch Any relevance?

barbsaka

2:11 P.M.

@Marisa_C I have MATESOL, and have no idea about respect or lack therof for Am or Br higher degrees. Again, suspect regions differ #eltchat

Moacir2

2:11 P.M.

#eltchat my sister-in-law has a PHD in relationships and no luck yet. Last beau HAD a boyfriend. ;-)

SuperFastGuides

2:11 P.M.

RT @OUPELTGlobal: RT @Marisa_C: RT @gknightbkk: Before an MA I understood teaching. After the MA I understood learning #eltchat> great opening :-)

naomishema

2:11 P.M.

#eltchat - on the down side, my MA thesis was A LOT of work (had two young kids then) and has since laid untouched, feels time wasted!

ELTExperiences

2:11 P.M.

RT @barbsaka: Seems like the value of an MA in terms of jobs depends on what part of the world you want to teach in #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:11 P.M.

@barbsaka And which MA you have followed - isn't it true that British MA's are more widely respected?  #eltchat

cioccas

2:11 P.M.

RT @OUPELTGlobal: I found the experience of doing an MA disciplined me, gave me direction, whether I agreed with it or not #eltchat

pysproblem81

2:11 P.M.

RT @sandymillin: Doing Twitter intro at 5pm BST. Pls use #efltwitter101 2 say who/where u are & best thing u've learnt from Tw. Please RT TY! #eltchat

3ty3

2:11P.M.

RT @esolcourses: Updated: Dogme ELT on scoop.it - fresh links to recent articles & videos about teaching unplugged http://t.co/qnQVemO #elt #eltchat #dogme

cioccas

2:12 P.M.

RT @Zwrzi: ... You have to keep up in order to give value to your MA. Otherwise it's just another paper. #eltchat < So true!

Zwrzi

2:12 P.M.

@naomishema That's the thing, really. You have to keep up in order to give value to your MA. Otherwise it's just another paper. #eltchat

ELTExperiences

2:12 P.M.

@Marisa_C I hope so and some universities are better than others. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:12 P.M.

@Raquel_EFL yes I can tweetdeck may be acting up on you  #eltchat

barbsaka

2:12 P.M.

@Raquel_EFL I can read them :) #eltchat

cioccas

2:12 P.M.

I did MA TESOL by coursework and now working towards an Master in Online Ed by research #ELTchat

SpinLingo

2:12 P.M.

via @rliberni Why is Bilingualism Seen as Un-American? - Fox News Latino http://t.co/XfJxjOG via @foxnewslatino #edchat #eltchat #languages

MissLadyCaz

2:12 P.M.

'Talk is how education happens'...so very true as seen in this article. http://t.co/MnK3vwL #eltchat #edchat

Zwrzi

2:13 P.M.

@ELTExperiences Definitely on. The experience was of greater value to me. #ELTchat

efl101

2:13 P.M.

Distance or full time?  does it make any difference to perceived value? #eltchat

barbsaka

2:13 P.M.

Very true! RT @Zwrzi: You have to keep up in order to give value to your MA. Otherwise it's just another paper. #eltchat

cioccas

2:13 P.M.

RT @ELTExperiences: #ELTchat which is better an online MA or on site MA? < Anyone done both :)

parrpakala

2:13 P.M.

I didn't do MA did Bed tesol #eltchat hi all from melb

llea_dias

2:13 P.M.

RT @naomishema: @barbsaka #eltchat - it's good that being a native speaker isn't enough anymore. One can speak flawlessly and not know how to teach!

SeanBanville

2:13 P.M.

@JessieDriscoll I got better jobs (Japan/UAE ) with MA - got back the investment in two years (8 years ago).Not all places pay well #eltchat

ELTExperiences

2:13 P.M.

#ELTchat which is better an online MA or on site MA?

teachenglishba

2:13 P.M.

RT @sandymillin: RT @warnhopepark: I've added lots of materials suitable for teaching Business English: http://t.co/vijeY1r #ESL #EFL #ELTChat #besig

sandymillin

2:13 P.M.

RT @warnhopepark: I've added lots of materials suitable for teaching Business English: http://t.co/vijeY1r #ESL #EFL #ELTChat #besig

Marisa_C

2:14 P.M.

@llea_dias i can #eltchat

llea_dias

2:14 P.M.

Good questionRT @efl101: Distance or full time?  does it make any difference to perceived value? #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:14 P.M.

A DELTA is firmly based on perfecting classroom teaching skills #ELTchat and design of mats and courses, an MA should go beyond

barbsaka

2:14 P.M.

@efl101 I haven't heard of any discrimination against distance or online MA. It's the acronym on the resume :) #eltchat

SeanBanville

2:14 P.M.

@ELTExperiences I'd say it depends where you are in the world in relation to the  uni. I preferred a distance MA.  #eltchat

cioccas

2:14 P.M.

@efl101 I don't think is diff in perceived value when applying for jobs #ELTchat

llea_dias

2:14 P.M.

The same is happening to me .RT @Raquel_EFL: @Marisa_C  can you read my tweets with #eltchat hashtag? I can't!

naomishema

2:15 P.M.

@Zwrzi #eltchat  all the research for Ithesis seems wasted. still, without it I would not have the option to go on to a PHD, if I want to...

OUPELTGlobal

2:15 P.M.

Having the MA didn't make me a better teacher but ir led beyond the classroom to training, course design, ... #eltchat

cioccas

2:15 P.M.

@efl101 I did first half f2f, then finished by distance - all the same to me #ELTchat

SeanBanville

2:15 P.M.

Me too RT @barbsaka: @efl101 I haven't heard of any discrimination against distance or online MA. It's the acronym on the resume :) #eltchat

AnaCristinaPrts

2:15 P.M.

#eltchat online vs site MA -> depends more on quality of institution. Distance education today is more respectable than 20 yrs ago

mkofab

2:15 P.M.

RT @sandymillin: Doing Twitter intro at 5pm BST. Pls use #efltwitter101 2 say who/where u are & best thing u've learnt from Tw. Please RT TY! #eltchat

ELTExperiences

2:16 P.M.

#ELTchat an onsite MA provided me teaching practice, meet sts and lecturers face to face and there was a great sense of support.

AnaCristinaPrts

2:16 P.M.

#eltchat yrs ago distance ed didn't have good reputation; different today. still depends on institution and field of study.

Marisa_C

2:16 P.M.

@OUPELTGlobal HAaving the MA DID make me both a better teacher AND teacher educator!  #eltchat

efl101

2:16 P.M.

@cioccas Thanks for your replies, very useful, I just wonder if MAs are becoming BAs and soon only a PhD will get the good jobs? #eltchat

daylemajor

2:16 P.M.

@SeanBanville @barbsaka @efl101 Is there any truth to the rumor that the Middle East doesn't recognize MAs done by distance? #eltchat

barbsaka

2:16 P.M.

@Marisa_C I don't know about current MAs, but mine had a strong practicum component #ELTchat

naomishema

2:16 P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: I think an MA can be very well done by distance as it usually does not include teaching practice #ELTchat and allows time for research

EveWeb

2:16 P.M.

In Venezuela, MAs are mainly requested to teach at the terciary level.  RT @barbsaka: #eltchat

EveWeb

2:16 P.M.

In Venezuela, MAs are mainly requested to teach at the tertiary level.  RT @barbsaka: #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:16 P.M.

@naomishema True-true. I'm considering a Phd and the MA just opens the door. #eltchat

SuperFastGuides

2:16 P.M.

@philhart @barbsaka I think an MA helps in the Middle East as well for the good jobs #eltchat

DanielaArghir

2:16 P.M.

@Marisa_C This is what I need really, thanks. #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:16 P.M.

I think an MA can be very well done by distance as it usually does not include teaching practice #ELTchat and allows time for research

dincels

2:16 P.M.

RT @rliberni: Learning English 'Too Easy' For Hungarian Students http://t.co/2QOQ7wP via @bi_europe #languages #eltchat #efl #esl #odd

sandymillin

2:16 P.M.

RT @cherrymp: RT @iatefl: Remember that the deadline for other #iatefl #scholarships is 22 August more info at http://t.co/ASpI3A9 #eltchat #engchat #elt

rliberni

2:16P.M.

New post - #IELTS Myths : http://t.co/nkxlzqC #esol #study english # training #efl #esl #eltchat #edchat http://t.co/nkxlzqC

Marisa_C

2:17 P.M.

@barbsaka @ELTExperiences  There you are! Proof of the fact that there is no standardisation on MAs! #ELTchat

Zwrzi

2:17 P.M.

RT @ELTExperiences: #ELTchat an onsite MA provided me teaching practice, meet sts and lecturers face to face and there was a great sense of support.

OUPELTGlobal

2:17 P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: @OUPELTGlobal HAaving the MA DID make me both a better teacher AND teacher educator! #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:17 P.M.

@Marisa_C but you DID want to become all this. You were open to learning. Not all people see the MA like that.  #eltchat

cioccas

2:17 P.M.

@efl101 PhDa, arrggghhh! Hope not! #ELTchat

barbsaka

2:17 P.M.

@efl101 Not yet in ELT :) #eltchat

AnaCristinaPrts

2:17 P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: I think an MA can be very well done by distance as it usually does not include teaching practice #ELTchat and allows time for research

BCNLanguages

2:17 P.M.

RT @SpinLingo: via @rliberni Why is Bilingualism Seen as Un-American? - Fox News Latino http://t.co/XfJxjOG via @foxnewslatino #edchat #eltchat #languages

OUPELTGlobal

2:17 P.M.

How do values help in the classroom? [video] http://t.co/e3mg9EU #ELTchat #EFL #ESL #edchat #YLs

cioccas

2:18 P.M.

Me too >RT @Raquel_EFL: For me, my MA was an intense time for reflection... Rethinking my believes and opening my mind... #ELTCHAT

barbsaka

2:18 P.M.

@Marisa_C Nope. There is accreditation, so I think that's why schools like it. Same for CELTA/DELTA actually #ELTchat

AnaCristinaPrts

2:18 P.M.

#eltchat MA programs differ immensly; I did research but no teaching. Had to have training before doing MA though.

Marisa_C

2:18 P.M.

@Zwrzi I know - Remember a Greek colleague who did hers with me - later confessed it was like water over a duck #eltchat

efl101

2:18 P.M.

@Marisa_C Can you say how it made you better?  Over say, experience, observation etc? #eltchat

SeanBanville

2:18 P.M.

RT @daylemajor: @SeanBanville @barbsaka @efl101 Any truth 2 rumor the Mid- East doesn't recognize distance MAs? #eltchat ||  No. I have one.

DanielaArghir

2:18 P.M.

@lauraahaha Hi there Laura's trainees! Wishing you good luck - technology rocks! #efl #esl #elt #eltchat #tefl

AnaCristinaPrts

2:19 P.M.

#eltchat RE Mid East & distance ed - no, mid east recognizes distance ed. But there are variations according to institutions.

ELTExperiences

2:19 P.M.

RT @AnaCristinaPrts: #eltchat yrs ago distance ed didn't have good reputation; different today. still depends on institution and field of study.

naomishema

2:19 P.M.

#eltchat By "older learner" I mean not supported by parents anymore, maybe with family too!

cioccas

2:19 P.M.

@efl101 @Marisa_C  Think you need the experience & observation plus the theory and reflection - all of it! #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:19 P.M.

@efl101 Awareness of and ability to understand and conduct own research - major plus #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:19 P.M.

@efl101 At least over experience and practicality in classroom, I know I've become better. U perceive things differently.  #eltchat

gknightbkk

2:19 P.M.

A good uni will not make a distinction in its degree awards between on site and distance #eltchat

naomishema

2:19 P.M.

RT @ELTExperiences: #ELTchat an onsite MA provided me ...a great sense of support - i found the support to be vital as an older learner !

mcneilmahon

2:19P.M.

@alastairjgrant without me tho' cos went to La Plata to watch opera - more professional than trade my hobbies :) #elt #efl #tefl #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:20 P.M.

@SuperFastGuides If you want to improve your teaching skills, a DELTA FIRST I would suggest - also useful for DOS jobs #eltchat

EveWeb

2:20 P.M.

An MA. RT @SuperFastGuides: Which do you think is better, MA or DELTA? #eltchat

PatrickAndrews

2:20 P.M.

@AnaCristinaPrts #eltchat Some very good online Masters now eg OU, Leicester.

inglishteacher

2:20 P.M.

Would any of you be happy to help me with my PhD research which is looking at social media in ELT? please please #eltchat

SuperFastGuides

2:20 P.M.

Which do you think is better, MA or DELTA? #eltchat

barbsaka

2:20 P.M.

I know several teachers who have done distance MA in order to advance. They all seem pretty satisfied with the experience/results #eltchat

OUPELTGlobal

2:20 P.M.

RT @gknightbkk: A good uni will not make a distinction in its degree awards between on site and distance #eltchat

Lee74

2:20 P.M.

RT @kalinagoenglish: RT @shaunwilden: Here's the transcript of last night's #eltchat on preservice online training http://t.co/Ds7Hoh3

efl101

2:21 P.M.

So, without wishing to be too commercial, who would the veterans recommend for studying MAs? #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:21 P.M.

@EveWeb I don't think it's a matter of "betterness". U still learn regardless of what you choose. #eltchat

gknightbkk

2:21 P.M.

RT @EveWeb: An MA. RT @SuperFastGuides: Which do you think is better, MA or DELTA? #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:21 P.M.

@BrunoELT value of MAs for teachers #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:21 P.M.

@SuperFastGuides Depends on the course you wish to follow later. MA is a bit more theoritical for me. It leads to academic careers #eltchat

cioccas

2:21 P.M.

a lot of the "Which is better" arguments depend so much on the person doing the learning #ELTchat

barbsaka

2:21 P.M.

@SuperFastGuides I think they're different, but both good. #eltchat

barbsaka

2:22 P.M.

@efl101 If you just need the degree to validate what you can do, find the one you can best afford (time/money) #eltchat

cioccas

2:22 P.M.

@efl101 Which country? #ELTchat

naomishema

2:22 P.M.

#eltchat Obviously a Delta vs MA depends on where you want to teach in the world - people like me, here  don't know what a DELTA really is

SuperFastGuides

2:22 P.M.

@EveWeb I've heard others say the same, so will the DELTA die out in favour of MAs? #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:22 P.M.

@Zwrzi SOME MAs lead to academic careers - and you really also need a PhD to pusrue an academic career now  #eltchat

ELTExperiences

2:22 P.M.

#ELTchat without an onsite MA I wouldn't of had observed teaching practice. I think an MA is useful with a practical element included.

EveWeb

2:22 P.M.

An MA is more focused on research. @SuperFastGuides Depends on the course you wish to follow later... #eltchat

kmhmartin

2:22 P.M.

Free Technology for Teachers: Digital Dialects - Games for Language Practice http://t.co/RZ16zQM #eltchat #libchat #edtech

Marisa_C

2:23 P.M.

RT @gknightbkk: With an MA I went on to teach MA. Can't do that with a DELTA #eltchat > certanly not! :-)

OUPELTGlobal

2:23 P.M.

RT @barbsaka: @efl101 If you just need the degree to validate what you can do, find the one you can best afford (time/money) #eltchat

cioccas

2:23 P.M.

RT @naomishema: #eltchat Delta vs MA depends on where you want to teach ... here  don't know what a DELTA really is < Same in Australia

EveWeb

2:23 P.M.

It depends on what the teacher needs. RT @Zwrzi: @EveWeb I don't think it's a matter of "betterness".  #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:23 P.M.

@SuperFastGuides DELTA's may die out but generally cheaper than MAs and a good steppingstone for a career in teacher training  #eltchat

gknightbkk

2:23 P.M.

With an MA I went on to teach MA. Can't do that with a DELTA #eltchat

SophiaKhan4

2:23 P.M.

I'm new, hello...it's good to keep learning, if you've done celta and delta then MA is one more form of PD. Just quite expensive #ELTchat

Zwrzi

2:23 P.M.

RT @barbsaka: @efl101 If you just need the degree to validate what you can do, find the one you can best afford (time/money) #eltchat

sandymillin

2:23 P.M.

RT @dmaduliwilliams: Just Two (to get me thru 16 weeks)!  My first ever blog post.  http://t.co/VURHGvw  #edchat  #eltchat <great!

barbsaka

2:24 P.M.

In many countries, MA allows you to teach at uni level, also (not necessarily MATESOL--any MA) #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:24 P.M.

@efl101 Are you asking about the top Universities for good MA's?  #eltchat

warnhopepark

2:24 P.M.

@EveWeb @SuperFastGuides arrrrgghhh! I mean "leaving off the #ELTchat hashtags".... crawl back under your rock, Helen!!

warnhopepark

2:24 P.M.

@EveWeb @SuperFastGuides duh, sorry, I've been living off #ELTchat hashtags!!

Lee74

2:24 P.M.

RT @sandymillin: Doing Twitter intro at 5pm BST. Pls use #efltwitter101 2 say who/where u are & best thing u've learnt from Tw. Please RT TY! #eltchat

ICTmagic

2:24P.M.

http://j.mp/MAGlC Site for #esl #eal with games, resources & a helpful online community. http://j.mp/qgl1Lo #edtech #ELTchat

ELTExperiences

2:25 P.M.

So true - RT @gknightbkk: With an MA I went on to teach MA. Can't do that with a DELTA #eltchat

efl101

2:25 P.M.

@Marisa_C I guess so, but more, who gives the most interesting and demanding MA course u know of? #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:25 P.M.

@SuperFastGuides A DELTA a prerequiite for becoming a CELTA tutor, so to anyone who wants to go that way, I would say no #ELTchat

bealer81

2:25 P.M.

I think this chat is above my station #eltchat. Will tune in tonight instead.

AnaCristinaPrts

2:25 P.M.

@PatrickAndrews yes, and there are excellent unis in canada as well 4 distance ed. distance ed has really evolved & improved. #eltchat

gknightbkk

2:25 P.M.

Teaching MA TEFL made me crap at teaching English :-( #eltchat

EveWeb

2:25 P.M.

A DELTA is not recognized to teach in my country, except for language  academies or companies; but not officially. #ELTchat

efl101

2:25 P.M.

@barbsaka @cioccas, No, I'd like to learn, have a lot to learn, not just validating and would have 2 be dist. can't afford time off #eltchat

ELTExperiences

2:25 P.M.

@Marisa_C @SuperFastGuides but if you can find a Uni that offers diploma level teaching practice, then a delta is not required. #ELTchat

PatrickAndrews

2:25 P.M.

@ELTExperiences #eltchat  Watching videos of classes can be useful.  Also means that everyone can see the same thing and have  discussion

Marisa_C

2:25 P.M.

Great online tool for text based (and other) lessons http://t.co/HAOeywt #eltchat #efl #ell

barbsaka

2:26 P.M.

@efl101 My MA was before the Internet was a gleam in anyone's eye, so no experience with online except hearsay :) #eltchat

AnaCristinaPrts

2:26 P.M.

It depends on what the teacher needs. RT @Zwrzi: @EveWeb I don't think it's a matter of "betterness". #eltchat Absoltuely!

SophiaKhan4

2:26 P.M.

Also if you are training (or want to train) you may have people who have already done an MA, so it helps if you have one too #ELTchat

SuperFastGuides

2:26 P.M.

@cioccas @naomishema Middle East seems to like MA over DELTA as well #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:26 P.M.

RT @barbsaka: @efl101 Recent colleagues have been very happy with Uni of Birmingham online #eltchat

EveWeb

2:26 P.M.

Me too. Agree. RT @ELTExperiences: So true - RT @gknightbkk: With an MA I went on to teach MA. Can't do that with a DELTA #eltchat

cioccas

2:26 P.M.

@efl101 Lots of online/distance MAs in Australia, but expensive if you're not Australian citizen #ELTchat

OUPELTGlobal

2:26 P.M.

@gknightbkk  Why? #eltchat

barbsaka

2:26 P.M.

@efl101 Recent colleagues have been very happy with Uni of Birmingham online #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:26 P.M.

@gknightbkk Same with teaching to young learners (7-10 year olds) #eltchat

SeanBanville

2:26 P.M.

RT @IsilBoy: Assistive Technology Tools: for Reading http://t.co/FkrASPL #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:27 P.M.

Truly amazing uni. RT @Marisa_C: RT @barbsaka: @efl101 Recent colleagues have been very happy with Uni of Birmingham online #eltchat

efl101

2:27 P.M.

@cioccas my wife's australian but I cant get her to go back u see! #eltchat

barbsaka

2:27 P.M.

@CastanedaSusana Usually just BA or BS #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:27 P.M.

But my MA was a contact course #ELTchat

DanielaArghir

2:27 P.M.

RT @efl101: @Marisa_C I guess so, but more, who gives the most interesting and demanding MA course u know of? #eltchat

CastanedaSusana

2:27 P.M.

What are the requirements for an MA, if any? Any previous degree? #eltchat

inglishteacher

2:27 P.M.

@naomishema in the UK in ESOL and higher education an MA would be more useful - my DELTA not really recognised here but great qual #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:27 P.M.

The Uni of Reading online course is one I have heard good comments on - I did my MA App Ling there #ELTchat

efl101

2:27 P.M.

@cioccas permanent residency visa, married to an Oz? (he says hopefully...) #eltchat

ELTExperiences

2:27 P.M.

@PatrickAndrews true but getting actual feedback on your teaching is important for PD. #ELTchat

alastairjgrant

2:27P.M.

The debates rages - are we professionals, or what?? http://t.co/iljPhFK #elt #efl #tefl #tesol #eltchat

warnhopepark

2:28 P.M.

#eltchat I got MSc Applied Ling. 13 yrs ago, got me loads exp, returned 2 UK & told at interview I'd need DELTA or get paid lowest rate

EveWeb

2:28 P.M.

A BA or BS. RT @CastanedaSusana: What are the requirements for an MA, if any? Any previous degree? #eltchat

cioccas

2:28 P.M.

@efl101 I'm hesitating to recommend particular Australian programs, because they are constantly changing #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:28 P.M.

@Zwrzi you haven't said where you did your MA  #eltchat

gknightbkk

2:29 P.M.

@cioccas: All unis change regularly. The faculty are key and they move around #ELTchatβ€

Marisa_C

2:29 P.M.

@ELTExperiences HAve heard very good comments abt Sussex too  #ELTchat

Zwrzi

2:29 P.M.

RT @naomishema: #eltchat I'm afraid of continuing to PHD  - I like my teaching job and don't intend to fight my way into the small academic world here...

AnaCristinaPrts

2:29 P.M.

@PatrickAndrews Yes, Australia has some excellent online ed too; besides, if a PhD can be done online & is respected, why not a MA? #eltchat

PatrickAndrews

2:29 P.M.

@ELTExperiences How many MAs have teaching practice?  Did face to face but no teaching practice.  It was assumed we had experience #eltchat

ELTExperiences

2:29 P.M.

#ELTchat I'd recommend the MA at university of Sussex. It's a great course with great ppl and a reputable institute.

Marisa_C

2:29 P.M.

the Uni of Lancaster has always had an awesome reputation esp in App Ling #ELTchat

naomishema

2:29 P.M.

#eltchat I'm afraid of continuing to PHD  - I like my teaching job and don't intend to fight my way into the small academic world here...

Zwrzi

2:29 P.M.

@Marisa_C Soory about that! Just finished mine in Uni of Birmingham. Very organised, even though I'd like some more practice.  #eltchat

sandymillin

2:29 P.M.

RT @lauraahaha: 2nd go- Please say hi to my CertTESOL trainees! Input session this pm: technology in the classroom! Thanks :) #efl #esl #elt #eltchat #tefl

ndla_engelsk

2:29 P.M.

RT @sandymillin: RT @warnhopepark: I've added lots of materials suitable for teaching Business English: http://t.co/vijeY1r #ESL #EFL #ELTChat #besig

CastanedaSusana

2:30 P.M.

Thanks a lot for the info guys at #eltchat

SuperFastGuides

2:30 P.M.

@Marisa_C True. I'm a CELTA tutor, as I have DELTA, but can only work at a Uni 'cos I have an MA. Maybe the answer is to have both? #eltchat

cioccas

2:30 P.M.

@EveWeb In Australia, any undergrad degree. Some, not all, require teaching experience too, which I think is wise  #ELTchat

Zwrzi

2:30 P.M.

@PatrickAndrews We had "Teaching Observation and Practice" module in the 2nd term. 'Twas handy.  #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:30 P.M.

RT @gknightbkk: @cioccas: All unis change regularly. The faculty are key and they move around #ELTchatβ€ > I was VERY lucky with my faculty

barbsaka

2:30 P.M.

@naomishema I always assumed I'd continue to PhD, but then couldn't justify the cost for the return (and more limited jobs) #eltchat

warnhopepark

2:30 P.M.

#eltchat lowest rate won't pay childcare so I've opted 4 self-employed, now considering doing DELTA as MSc apparently not recognised in UK?

EveWeb

2:30 P.M.

Really? How can that b possible? RT @warnhopepark: #eltchat I got MSc Applied Ling..told at interview I'd need DELTA or get paid lowest rate

Marisa_C

2:31 P.M.

RT @help4ielts: I found DELTA more useful than MA - made me the teacher I am today #ELTchat > Many Ts say that to me post MA on our DELTA

cioccas

2:31 P.M.

@gknightbkk Yes, that's why I'm reluctant to recommend, as not sure who is where in Australian unis at the moment #ELTchat

SuperFastGuides

2:31 P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: The Uni of Reading online course is one I have heard good comments on - I did my MA App Ling there #ELTchat

barbsaka

2:31 P.M.

I'm curious...Perhaps we could share country and hiring preference? Really seems to depend on where you want to teach :) #eltchat

help4ielts

2:31 P.M.

I found DELTA more useful than MA - made me the teacher I am today #ELTchat

gknightbkk

2:31 P.M.

@Marisa_C Me too! Aston with Julian Edge et al #eltchat

inglishteacher

2:31 P.M.

@cioccas @efl101 yes same in UK - really tricky to recommend qualification routes #eltchat

NATECLA

2:31 P.M.

Please ReTweet @ActionforESOL Seminar: DEFENDING OUR PRACTICE AND PROFESSION 10/9/11 @ActionAid EC1R OBJ http://t.co/bUW6rTJ #ESOL #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:31 P.M.

Keith Johnson, Frank Palmer, David WIlkins, David Crystal, Peter Trudgill, Ted Hughes... need I go on? #ELTchat Ron White...

ELTExperiences

2:31 P.M.

@PatrickAndrews not many but those that do try to combine theory and practice which is a good thing. #ELTchat

SuperFastGuides

2:32 P.M.

@Marisa_C Uni of Reading has had a very good reputation for years (at least 20!) #eltchat

warnhopepark

2:32 P.M.

@EveWeb #eltchat Now I'm thinking about doing DELTA just to get paid enough to cover childcare!

efl101

2:32 P.M.

Practical note, MA applications ask 4r academic referees, as my BA tutors are dim memories at best - what alternatives can u use? #eltchat

EveWeb

2:32 P.M.

Did you have a degree in teaching before? RT @help4ielts: I found DELTA more useful than MA - made me the teacher I am today #ELTchat

PatrickAndrews

2:32 P.M.

@ELTExperiences Yes but many doing online do this every day as they work and study at the same time #eltchat

ELTExperiences

2:32 P.M.

#ELTchat is an MA that offers teaching practice considered less suitable or respected?

AnaCristinaPrts

2:32 P.M.

@EveWeb Whenever I teach at Brit Council I get paid lowest rates - don't have delta (regardless of other qualifications!) #eltchat

barbsaka

2:32 P.M.

In most of Asia, as mentioned, MA is more recognized (although some CELTAs DELTAs around) #eltchat

onetooneteacher

2:32 P.M.

New post: Ten tips for one-to-one teachers http://t.co/W83y1LF #efl #elt #eltchat #tesl

cioccas

2:33 P.M.

@inglishteacher @efl101 And some MA programs in Aust better for ESL (teach in Aust) some better EFL (teach overseas) #ELTchat

DanielaArghir

2:33 P.M.

@efl101 I think some IELTS is also necessary, if your're not a native speaker #eltchat

AnaCristinaPrts

2:33 P.M.

RT @EveWeb: Did you have a degree in teaching before? RT @help4ielts: I found DELTA more useful than MA - made me the teacher I am today #ELTchat

inglishteacher

2:33 P.M.

@Marisa_C yes absolutely and really great on literacy too #eltchat

PatrickAndrews

2:33 P.M.

@ELTExperiences and many of those doing online MA are teching full time in a context they know so it is more meaningful #eltchat

lu_bodeman

2:33 P.M.

Hello everyone on #eltchat. Reading posts b4 plunging in. :)

AnaCristinaPrts

2:33 P.M.

#eltchat no Martin; depends mostly on ppl's interest - research or teaching practice. In the end, job opportunities are the same

barbsaka

2:33 P.M.

Ideas? RT @efl101: MA applications ask 4 academic referees, as my BA tutors are dim memories at best - what alternatives can u use? #eltchat

gknightbkk

2:33 P.M.

@cioccas Good people at Macquarie still #eltchat

warnhopepark

2:33 P.M.

RT @SuperFastGuides: @Marisa_C True. I'm a CELTA tutor, as I have DELTA, but can only work at a Uni 'cos I have an MA. Maybe the answer is to have both? #eltchat

efl101

2:34 P.M.

@Zwrzi ahhh, best marks is relative....;-) #eltchat

AnaCristinaPrts

2:34 P.M.

@EveWeb I had to have Teacher Training to get accepted on my MA. But that was years ago. TT is esssential. #eltchat

PatrickAndrews

2:34 P.M.

@EveWeb @help4ielts #eltchat Good question.  Many doing MAs already have PGCE.

Marisa_C

2:34 P.M.

@efl101 I regularly to this for my own trainees  #eltchat

SuperFastGuides

2:34 P.M.

@AnaCristinaPrts @PatrickAndrews Australia's USQ MEd distance has good reviews from friends who've done it #eltchat

EveWeb

2:34 P.M.

Does it mean that a teacher with a BA in TEFL and an MA in TEFL receives a lower salary than one with a DELTA certificate? #eltchat

ELTExperiences

2:34 P.M.

#ELTchat I feel that I don't need to do a delta now as I have done the MA and had diploma level teaching practice.

barbsaka

2:34 P.M.

Same in US RT @cioccas:  And some MA programs in Aust better for ESL (teach in Aust) some better EFL (teach overseas) #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:34 P.M.

@efl101 if you have done a CeltA or a DELTA ask your course tutor for an academic reference  #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:34 P.M.

@efl101 Why don't you contact the BA tutors who gave you best marks? If you show them the mark, maybe they could give you a ref. #eltchat

cioccas

2:35 P.M.

@gknightbkk  I haven't kept up with who is there now, but they have had a good rep for a long time #ELTchat

inglishteacher

2:35 P.M.

I think Lancaster has an MA in ESOL and literacy which would be great for teachers who want to work in the UK context #eltchat

barbsaka

2:35 P.M.

@Raquel_EFL Have a good class! #eltchat

efl101

2:35 P.M.

@Marisa_C good idea, thanks #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:35 P.M.

@ELTExperiences Most people say that, but the majority of my MA fellow ss will continue with a CELT/DELTA. #ELTchat

yitzha_sarwono

2:35 P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: Great online tool for text based (and other) lessons http://t.co/HAOeywt #eltchat #efl #ell

EveWeb

2:36 P.M.

Same thing in Vzla. To take an MA in TESOL we have 2 b teachers. RT @AnaCristinaPrts: @EveWeb I had to have TT2get accepted #eltchat

warnhopepark

2:36 P.M.

RT @inglishteacher: I think Lancaster has an MA in ESOL and literacy which would be great for teachers who want to work in the UK context #eltchat

barbsaka

2:36 P.M.

@AnaCristinaPrts Thanks for your input! #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:36 P.M.

@AnaCristinaPrts cheers and see you soon  #eltchat

AnaCristinaPrts

2:36 P.M.

#eltchat Must dash; thank u all so much 4 such an interesting discussion!

Marisa_C

2:37 P.M.

Would you agree that some teaching experience is necessary before an MA in TESOL or TEFL? Many BA holders want to go immediat, #ELTchat

cioccas

2:37 P.M.

@SuperFastGuides @AnaCristinaPrts @PatrickAndrews I'm studying at USQ at the moment, online Master Online Ed #ELTchat

Zwrzi

2:38 P.M.

@Marisa_C Totally. Teaching xp before MA helps you reflect on what you've been doing. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:38 P.M.

@nutrich Not all MAs train you as a researcher necessarily but I agree that they should give you those skills  #ELTchat

warnhopepark

2:38 P.M.

@inglishteacher #eltchat Do you know if it's true MSc App. Ling. not recognised by UK language schools if teacher doesn't have DELTA?

EveWeb

2:38 P.M.

Yes, I think it's essential.  RT @Marisa_C: Would you agree that some teaching experience is necessary b4 an MA in TESOL or TEFL? #ELTchat

lu_bodeman

2:38 P.M.

Oops, 4got hashtag  > I am doing the #DELTA  soon, but I feel the MA will give me support for practice. So that should come next.  #ELTchat

nutrich

2:38 P.M.

MA trains you as a researcher, not as a teacher, but this can help research your own practice.  #ELTchat

barbsaka

2:38 P.M.

In US, you just need a bachelor's degree. I was one of only 2 w/teaching certificate in our MA program. Was surprised. #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:38 P.M.

@EveWeb Same with the Uni of Birmingham. They had 2speperate MAcourses in TESOL. One for experienced teachers & the other for in~#eltchat

Senicko

2:38P.M.

RT @TheConsultantsE: Using Web 2.0 Tools for Alternative Assessment of ESL Students http://t.co/PGW8nyl #eltchat #esl #edtech via @teadira

EveWeb

2:39 P.M.

MAs are focused on research and we need to have experienced the teaching field first to understand it better.  #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:39 P.M.

@nutrich you are very fortunate but this is not true of all MAs #eltchat

SuperFastGuides

2:39 P.M.

@cioccas What do you think of the USQ course? #eltchat

cioccas

2:39 P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: Would you agree that some teaching experience is necessary before an MA in TESOL or TEFL?  #ELTchat <YES, definitely!

efl101

2:39 P.M.

@nutrich interesting point, why then so much emphasis on MA in teaching? #eltchat

nutrich

2:39 P.M.

@Marisa_C Well mine does, has and is! #eltchat

lu_bodeman

2:39 P.M.

RT @Zwrzi: @Marisa_C Totally. Teaching xp before MA helps you reflect on what you've been doing. #ELTchat

warnhopepark

2:40 P.M.

Thanks to #ELTchat wondering if job interviewer told me truth saying I'd be paid lowest rate because I didn't have DELTA despite my MSc >:(

Zwrzi

2:40 P.M.

RT @EveWeb: MAs are focused on research and we need to have experienced the teaching field first to understand it better.  #ELTchat

cioccas

2:40 P.M.

@SuperFastGuides Mixed, some terrific, some ordinary, depends on the teacher/supervisor. Not sure about TESOL program though #ELTchat

cioccas

2:41 P.M.

@SuperFastGuides I did MA TESOL at UTS - same impression: some terrific, some not so terrific #ELTchat

barbsaka

2:41 P.M.

@warnhopepark I think I'd look for a school that appreciated MSc :) #ELTchat

nutrich

2:41 P.M.

@Marisa_C That's interesting. In that case the question is what type of MA could benefit for what purpose, I suppose.  #ELTchat

vickyloras

2:41 P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: What would you like to talk about on August 24th?: Please post your topics for our next #ELTchat on Wed... http://t.co/botgiYR #eltchat

SuperFastGuides

2:42 P.M.

@warnhopepark The British Council are very keen on DELTA and might offer a lower rate without it #eltchat

warnhopepark

2:42 P.M.

@barbsaka #ELTchat Thanks - but this guy told me it was the law in UK! Even showed me documentation! That's why I'm self-employed :(

Marisa_C

2:42 P.M.

@nutrich I think so. E.g. if not part of a uni, Ts cannot usually fund own research #ELTchat

barbsaka

2:42 P.M.

Good list!  @efl101: It seems context, career and cost are important in MA choices - I like lists of three ;-) #eltchat

EveWeb

2:42 P.M.

You really made me laugh. lol. RT @warnhopepark: Thanks to #ELTchat wondering if job interviewer told me truth #eltchat >:(

efl101

2:42 P.M.

It seems context, career and cost are important in MA choices - I like lists of three ;-) #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:42 P.M.

@warnhopepark Doesn't this depend on the country? MAs are paid more in Greece by LAW, for instance. DELTAs not really (me thinks) #ELTchat

andivwhite

2:42 P.M.

RT @esolcourses: CPD in Education (updated) Professional Development Resources for Educators on scoop.it http://t.co/WuZU1Qr #edtech #elt #eltchat #besig

vickyloras

2:42 P.M.

RT @cioccas: RT @japglish: Apple to teach the world to sing - http://j.mp/rgJ1T5 < - could be adapted to help pronunciation too #ELTchat

SuperFastGuides

2:43 P.M.

@cioccas Maybe it depends on the options you pick, some might be better than others #eltchat

nutrich

2:43 P.M.

@Marisa_C absolutely, you can't get access to a lot of material that is accessible online as it's behind a paywall   #eltchat

lu_bodeman

2:43 P.M.

Getting into an MA in the US seems challenging. Don't know if there are any distance MAs there... #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:43 P.M.

@SuperFastGuides I'm wandering why...? Oh, wait! Because the BC is involved in CELT/DELTS, maybe? #eltchat

WarwickLanguage

2:43 P.M.

RT @efl101: It seems context, career and cost are important in MA choices - I like lists of three ;-) #eltchat

OUPELTGlobal

2:43 P.M.

RT @barbsaka: Good list! @efl101: It seems context, career and cost are important in MA choices - I like lists of three ;-)  #eltchat

EveWeb

2:43 P.M.

I'd add teaching experience. RT @barbsaka: Good list!  @efl101: It seems context, career and cost are important in MA choices...;-) #eltchat

warnhopepark

2:43 P.M.

RT @EveWeb: You really made me laugh. lol. RT @warnhopepark: Thanks to #ELTchat wondering if job interviewer told me truth #eltchat >:(

Marisa_C

2:43 P.M.

@nutrich Although today easier than it used to be I must add #ELTchat

gret

2:43 P.M.

Surviving the 1st Month of School: 20+ Tips & Resources by @ShellTerrell http://j.mp/nIs399 #edchat #eltchat #elemchat #ntchat

hoprea

2:43P.M.

RT @esolcourses: Updated: Dogme ELT on scoop.it - fresh links to recent articles & videos about teaching unplugged http://t.co/qnQVemO #elt #eltchat #dogme

Zwrzi

2:44 P.M.

@lu_bodeman Hve you checked any unis in the US? I know there are some offering distance. #eltchat

warnhopepark

2:44 P.M.

@Zwrzi @SuperFastGuides #eltchat Yes, this is it, I remember now the booklet he showed me was a BC list of rules for accredited schools

EveWeb

2:44 P.M.

Welcome! :D RT @TyKendall: #ELTChat  i'm a bit late to the party, oops

help4ielts

2:44 P.M.

I have a distance MEd & an on-site MA (from UK unis). Distance degree much more useful as I could try things out & reflect more #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:44 P.M.

RT @barbsaka: @warnhopepark was told that it was the law in UK that DELTA gets higher salary than MSc. Can anyone verify?  #ELTchat

barbsaka

2:44 P.M.

@TyKendall Better late than not at all :) #ELTChat

TyKendall

2:44 P.M.

#ELTChat  i'm a bit late to the party, oops

barbsaka

2:44 P.M.

@warnhopepark was told that it was the law in UK that DELTA gets higher salary than MSc. Can anyone verify?  #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:45 P.M.

@llea_dias  #ELTCHAT stay with us :-)

barbsaka

2:45 P.M.

@warnhopepark BC is a bit biased toward DELTA :)  #ELTchat

paige_michael

2:45 P.M.

@Zwrzi @lu_bodeman  #eltchat in the US norm. ask for 2 years teaching exp. for MA prog. &/or teaching positions.

SuperFastGuides

2:45 P.M.

@Zwrzi Maybe, but they like the practical aspect of the DELTA #eltchat

llea_dias

2:45 P.M.

@Marisa_C My connection is not so good today!!! Sorry  for that. But I`m still trying.#ELTCHAT.

lu_bodeman

2:45 P.M.

RT @Zwrzi: @lu_bodeman Hve you checked any unis in the US? I know there are some offering distance. #eltchat >> doing that these days

saigonsensei

2:45 P.M.

RT @OUPELTGlobal: RT @Marisa_C: RT @gknightbkk: Before an MA I understood teaching. After the MA I understood learning #eltchat> great opening :-)

Collaborative

2:45 P.M.

#globalkids #eltchat #iatefl #WizIQ event > Using #Kitely #Opensim for Immersive Courseware in an #Education #Grid http://ow.ly/66jAt

barbsaka

2:46 P.M.

@lu_bodeman I don't think so. Many MA candidates are returning after teaching for years, so age varies #eltchat

EveWeb

2:46 P.M.

Interesting &productive way2see it. I like it. RT @help4ielts: I have a distance MEd , I could try things out & reflect more #eltchat

paige_michael

2:46 P.M.

@barbsaka @warnhopepark  #eltchat agree.

Marisa_C

2:46 P.M.

@SuperFastGuides @Zwrzi  I think it's the fact that having passed a DELTA means sth re classroom practice #ELTchat

paige_michael

2:46 P.M.

@help4ielts #eltchat Think distance learning MAs good for current teachers, but for those w/o exp. not so beneficial.

TyKendall

2:46 P.M.

#ELTChat difficult to slot in after gatecrashing but doing MA/DELTA is almost expected, after some yrs exp in some places I worked

lu_bodeman

2:46 P.M.

Any problem getting into an MA if you're over 50? hahaha Guess I've just revealed my age. LOL #eltchat

warnhopepark

2:46 P.M.

@Marisa_C @barbsaka #eltchat Thanks for asking! It's been puzzling me for a year!

cioccas

2:46 P.M.

@SuperFastGuides Definitely, and some teachers better than others too! #ELTchat

efl101

2:46 P.M.

@EveWeb ahh but then it wouldn't fit my totally artificial three c's concept ;-) #eltchat

cioccas

2:47 P.M.

@efl101 Oh, that varies greatly too! Some Ss seem to only want to do their own thing, I want to discuss, discuss discuss! #ELTchat

Zwrzi

2:47 P.M.

@lu_bodeman Afterall, we are all clients to them. So, I don't think that age really matters... #eltchat

warnhopepark

2:47 P.M.

@Zwrzi #eltchat when I worked in Australia it was  nigh impossible to get a good ESL job WITHOUT an MSc/MA in a TEFL related subject!

lu_bodeman

2:47 P.M.

@barbsaka  Good to know! :)  Thx! #eltchat

paige_michael

2:47 P.M.

@TyKendall #eltchat why is DELTA considered better than an MA? why do ppl even do MA if DELTA is better (for jobs,etc..>)?

analuisalozano

2:47 P.M.

RT @nutrich: MA trains you as a researcher, not as a teacher, but this can help research your own practice.  #ELTchat

cioccas

2:47 P.M.

@SuperFastGuides Fortunately I manage my own learning well, even if teaching or program not managed so well  :) #ELTchat

efl101

2:47 P.M.

Anyone who's done a distance MA - what was the communication with other sts like? #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:47 P.M.

@lu_bodeman Are you fishing for compliments?! :P Not all! We had a 54 in my class. #eltchat

seburnt

2:47P.M.

Yay!  2nd 4C sentence submitted!  I wonder which book they want to win? http://t.co/abSu3Ox #eltchat

SuperFastGuides

2:48 P.M.

@TyKendall I think it shows committment to the profession (and that you don't see TEFL as a short term 'gap year' option!) #eltchat

paige_michael

2:48 P.M.

@TyKendall #eltchat, then maybe it should cost more than an MA, if it's worth my to employers/BC ;)

cioccas

2:48 P.M.

@warnhopepark @Zwrzi  Still like that in Australia! #ELTchat

OUPELTGlobal

2:48 P.M.

A lot of really interesting information today, but have a meeting. Thanks to the moderators. See everyone next week.  #eltchat

lu_bodeman

2:48 P.M.

RT @Zwrzi: @lu_bodeman Afterall, we are all clients to them. So, I don't think that age really matters... #eltchat >> Good!! :)

paige_michael

2:48 P.M.

@barbsaka @lu_bodeman  #eltchat Totally. In my MA course the ages ranged from 22-55 :) & from no exp. to 10+yrs exp.

EveWeb

2:48 P.M.

Could it be CCCT? He he he. RT @efl101: @EveWeb ahh but then it wouldn't fit my totally artificial three c's concept ;-) #eltchat

TyKendall

2:48 P.M.

@paige_michael   #ELTChat not sure why, maybe its more established, more prestige

paige_michael

2:49 P.M.

@Moacir2 @Marisa_C  #eltchat, what about MA courses catered to those w/o exp.?

cioccas

2:49 P.M.

@efl101 Wish I could study and MA with a group of experienced #ELTchat -ters! #ELTchat

gknightbkk

2:49 P.M.

@efl101 You should encourage a group of you to study together in the same locale and meet up reg #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:49 P.M.

RT @barbsaka: Clearly, if you want a career with British Council, you should skip the expensive MA and go for a DELTA :) #eltchat

barbsaka

2:49 P.M.

Clearly, if you want a career with British Council, you should skip the expensive MA and go for a DELTA :) #eltchat

paige_michael

2:49 P.M.

@SuperFastGuides @TyKendall #eltchat Doesn't a MA show more commitment than a DELTA?

lu_bodeman

2:49 P.M.

Thx! >RT @paige_michael: @barbsaka @lu_bodeman  #eltchat Totally. In my MA course the ages ranged from 22-55 :) & from no exp. 2 10+yrs exp.

TyKendall

2:49 P.M.

@Marisa_C   #ELTChat agree with marisa, some MAs are highly theoretically based

Moacir2

2:49 P.M.

@Marisa_C #eltchat agreed. Previous work experience prior to further Ed is essential.A 22yo isn't ready to research an area he doesn't know.

help4ielts

2:49 P.M.

@Marisa_C Can strongly recommend PhD by thesis and coursework at Uni of Lancaster in App Ling. #ELTchat

efl101

2:49 P.M.

@cioccas yup me too but recently did a course with OU which had 35 sts but only three who participated in chat forums etc. :-( #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:49 P.M.

@TyKendall #eltchat  DELTA not better than an MA - usually diff focus - more practical - mats & syllabus design skills too #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:50 P.M.

@parrpakala you can obtain a Cambridge DELTA in some Australian institutions yes #eltchat

Zwrzi

2:50 P.M.

@cioccas Lets do it, then! Lets hand in  #ELTchat certificates!

paige_michael

2:50 P.M.

@TyKendall @Marisa_C  #eltchat why is there not practical teaching element to MAs in the UK? In the US it's pract. required.

TyKendall

2:50 P.M.

#ELTChat i dont think i'd ever WANT to work for the british council

parrpakala

2:50 P.M.

@cioccas what is delta? do we have that? #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:50 P.M.

@TyKendall You're doing an MA now aren't you Ty? #ELTChat

EveWeb

2:50 P.M.

RT @analuisalozano: RT @nutrich: MA trains you as a researcher, not as a teacher, but this can help research your own practice.  #ELTchat

efl101

2:51 P.M.

@Zwrzi @cioccas hah, brilliant, and we'd give ourselves discounts of course... #eltchat

EveWeb

2:51 P.M.

Definitively! RT @gknightbkk: @paige_michael Teaching exp. should be a prerequisite to an MA #eltchat

cioccas

2:51 P.M.

@Zwrzi  I include my #ELTchat sessions in my report on PD I've done!

barbsaka

2:51 P.M.

@llea_dias That's just based on what I heard here--no personal experience with DELTA or BC :) #eltchat

gknightbkk

2:51 P.M.

@paige_michael Teaching exp. should be a prerequisite to an MA #eltchat

analuisalozano

2:51 P.M.

RT @barbsaka: Clearly, if you want a career with British Council, you should skip the expensive MA and go for a DELTA :) #eltchat

warnhopepark

2:51 P.M.

@cioccas @Zwrzi #eltchat I got good job at a UK uni at first, they didn't care about BC regulations but school folded :(

parrpakala

2:51 P.M.

@Marisa_C so lower than B,ed? #eltchat

TyKendall

2:51 P.M.

@Marisa_C   #ELTChat no marisa,i only just finished my BA, and besides i gotta save for my MA, they are EXXXPENSIVE!

paige_michael

2:51 P.M.

@barbsaka #eltchat and really for jobs in the UK, in general. No one accepted me as a cand. w/ only an MA TESOL.

SuperFastGuides

2:52 P.M.

@TyKendall I don't work for the British Council now, but I enjoyed the years that I did #eltchat

EveWeb

2:52 P.M.

RT @paige_michael: @TyKendall @Marisa_C  #eltchat doing MA @ Leeds Uni, but from USA. In US you can get your MA paid for. Look @ Uni of Alabama. Great prog.

gknightbkk

2:52 P.M.

RT @TyKendall: #ELTChat i dont think i'd ever WANT to work for the british council

paige_michael

2:52 P.M.

@TyKendall @Marisa_C  #eltchat doing MA @ Leeds Uni, but from USA. In US you can get your MA paid for. Look @ Uni of Alabama. Great prog.

cioccas

2:52 P.M.

@parrpakala Delta is the diploma level of Cambridge CELTA - some places training in that in Australia #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:52 P.M.

@paige_michael Diff uni traditions I guess - American MAs always incl a teahcing practicum from what i understand #eltchat

barbsaka

2:52 P.M.

@paige_michael So it really depends on where you want to teach, doesn't it? Or where you live.... #eltchat

SuperFastGuides

2:53 P.M.

RT @EveWeb: Definitively! RT @gknightbkk: @paige_michael Teaching exp. should be a prerequisite to an MA #eltchat

parrpakala

2:53 P.M.

I think our Dip VET was supposed to be at MA level, but they didn't upgrade it. Amount of work was same #eltchat

warnhopepark

2:53 P.M.

#eltchat Despite my MSc Applied Linguistics & loadsa experience am now seriously considering doing DELTA, think it'll be good as refresher

Marisa_C

2:53 P.M.

@parrpakala  DELTA  a Level 7 qualf in UK - that is AFTER a BA - equiv to Dip at uni and gives exemptions at MA level #eltchat

barbsaka

2:53 P.M.

@Marisa_C @@paige_michael I think it may be because MA was entry level for TESOL (no BA) #eltchat

BobK99

2:53 P.M.

Oops is it THAT late. Oh well... #eltchat

paige_michael

2:53 P.M.

@EveWeb @gknightbkk  #eltchat, but even w/ previous exp. w/o DELTA/CELTA or observed teaching employers won't hire :(

TyKendall

2:54 P.M.

@EveWeb  #ELTChat no you need another qualification called  a PGCE

Zwrzi

2:54 P.M.

@EveWeb I don't know about that, but being a NATIVE SPEAKER, sure is. #eltchat

cioccas

2:54 P.M.

@parrpakala @Marisa_C I don't know many schools that will accept Delta quals in Australia though #ELTchat

SeanBanville

2:54 P.M.

@efl101 Good communication in the e-mail-only days (2000-20003). Now with Social Media, communication with peers is fantastic.  #eltchat

EveWeb

2:54 P.M.

Is a DELTA or CELTA certificate required to teach at elementary or secondary levels in the UK? #eltchat

barbsaka

2:54 P.M.

@warnhopepark It certainly can't hurt :) Training is always good. #eltchat

cioccas

2:55 P.M.

@lu_bodeman The proof is all the things I share at my school that I've learnt in #ELTchat and webinars etc.!

parrpakala

2:55 P.M.

@cioccas @parrpakala @Marisa_C certainly not TAFE, you need the 4 years post sec shl #eltchat

EveWeb

2:55 P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: Here a list of UK unis which offer credits/exemptions to DELTA holders http://t.co/RAulPCO #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:55 P.M.

Here a list of UK unis which offer credits/exemptions to DELTA holders http://t.co/RAulPCO #ELTchat

barbsaka

2:55 P.M.

@lu_bodeman I know some folks who have done the distance DELTA and liked it :) #eltchat

warnhopepark

2:55 P.M.

@barbsaka #eltchat Yes, I'd be v excited to do DELTA, just has to fit around my 5yo darling!

EveWeb

2:55 P.M.

OK, I see. Thanks! RT @TyKendall: @EveWeb  #ELTChat no you need another qualification called  a PGCE

barbsaka

2:55 P.M.

Closing in on our last 5 minutes. Please, please, please someone volunteer to do the summary for this #eltchat :-)

lu_bodeman

2:55 P.M.

I'm taking the Distance DELTA...hope that is just as strong. Any info on this?  Advice? #eltchat

CELT_Athens

2:55 P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: Great online tool for text based (and other) lessons http://t.co/B265nqS #eltchat #efl #ell #edchat

PriVanderlei

2:55P.M.

RT @eltbakery: 5 Songs activities for #ELT http://t.co/qGcJJTG #esl #efl #eltchat #tesol

parrpakala

2:56 P.M.

@cioccas @lu_bodeman agree, all learning these days online far more impressive & informative

SuperFastGuides

2:56 P.M.

@TyKendall Though I've heard that PGCEs in TEFL stopped running about 15+ years ago . . .  #eltchat

warnhopepark

2:56 P.M.

@lu_bodeman #eltchat I've been wondering about this too as Distance DELTA may be my only option w/ childcare issues etc

efl101

2:56 P.M.

Gotta dash, thanks for excellent chat all esp to mods, till next time... #eltchat

lu_bodeman

2:56 P.M.

@barbsaka  YEY!!! Good to know. Thx Barb! Want to make sure I get the best for my $$. #eltchat

warnhopepark

2:56 P.M.

RT @lu_bodeman: I'm taking the Distance DELTA...hope that is just as strong. Any info on this?  Advice? #eltchat

warnhopepark

2:57 P.M.

@parrpakala @cioccas @Marisa_C #eltchat TAFE sticklers 4 big qualifications + teaching hours when I worked for them! Despite no contracts!

paige_michael

2:57 P.M.

@Zwrzi #ELTchat Agrreed )

EveWeb

2:57 P.M.

Oh, really? What's asked now? RT @SuperFastGuides: @TyKendall Though I've heard that PGCEs in TEFL stopped ...15+ years ago . . .  #eltchat

analuisalozano

2:57 P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: Here a list of UK unis which offer credits/exemptions to DELTA holders http://t.co/I7YCuQz #ELTchat

TyKendall

2:57 P.M.

@SuperFastGuides   #ELTChat no not at all, they've just renamed it, a PGCE in ESOL its called now. They wont let u near a school w/o pgce

Marisa_C

2:57 P.M.

@paige_michael Cheers and thanks for joining  #eltchat

SuperFastGuides

2:57 P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: Here a list of UK unis which offer credits/exemptions to DELTA holders http://t.co/RAulPCO #ELTchat

paige_michael

2:57 P.M.

#eltchat @Marisa_C @tykendall gotta run. thanks for a great chat!!!

Zwrzi

2:57 P.M.

All in all, any qualification is good.We still learn. But u need to consider what you really need in order to get value for money. #ELTchat.

lu_bodeman

2:57 P.M.

@cioccas  TRUE!! :-)  #eltchat

SunnyEarth1

2:57 P.M.

RT @SpinLingo: via @rliberni Why is Bilingualism Seen as Un-American? - Fox News Latino http://t.co/XfJxjOG via @foxnewslatino #edchat #eltchat #languages

warnhopepark

2:58 P.M.

@TyKendall @SuperFastGuides #eltchat Do you know if you can do a PGCE in ESOL via distance ed?

cioccas

2:58 P.M.

@parrpakala @lu_bodeman I hardly have time for formal study with all the time I'm spending on my PLN, and #ELtchat is big part of that!

SuperFastGuides

2:58 P.M.

@Marisa_C Many thanks for the chat - very interesting #eltchat

mayu3katsu

2:58 P.M.

RT @cioccas: @parrpakala Delta is the diploma level of Cambridge CELTA - some places training in that in Australia #ELTchat

parrpakala

2:58 P.M.

have a student teacher nxt week, I plan to learn about myself, reflect, share, collaborate, create invent, comment, ask qns etc.. #eltchat

Marisa_C

2:58 P.M.

What does TAFE stand for pls? #ELTchat - forgive my ignorance

barbsaka

2:58 P.M.

The ELT world is a bizarre place. MA preferred (and DELTA unknown) in some regions. DELTA preferred (and MA ignored) in others :) #eltchat

TeacherPort

2:59 P.M.

Great link - RT @Marisa_C Here a list of UK unis which offer credits/exemptions to DELTA holders http://t.co/zOPlyZc #ELTchat

Marisa_C

2:59 P.M.

Well I have had many DELTA trainees fresh out of MAs who have told me DELTA much more demanding than their MAs #ELTchat what about that?

parrpakala

2:59 P.M.

@warnhopepark @cioccas @Marisa_C well nothing changed there!, majority sessional and overworked, admin.changes, more paperwork #eltchat

barbsaka

2:59 P.M.

Interesting chat tonight. Who's going to be our wonderful summary writer? #eltchat

rliberni

2:59 P.M.

@DinaDobrou Lol :-) We can compile our own list of most hated words for English learners & get them removed !  Any suggestions #eltchat?

JoHart

2:59 P.M.

Join us http://t.co/89xanUL in 11hr 23:00 GMT for Edublogs Serendipity webinar – bring YOUR topics to discuss #edchat #ELTchat #elearning

EveWeb

3:00 P.M.

MAs are very demanding in Venezuela. I can tell you 4sure! RT @Marisa_C: ... have told me DELTA much more demanding than their MAs #ELTchat

cioccas

3:00 P.M.

From my earlier tweet...Interesting current discussion on today's #ELTchat topic - MA TESOL - on Webheads here: http://t.co/nyA27r8

SuperFastGuides

3:00 P.M.

@TyKendall Who offers the ESOL PGCE? #eltchat

parrpakala

3:00 P.M.

@Marisa_C tafe training and further edn #eltchat

warnhopepark

3:00 P.M.

@Marisa_C TAFE are the Australian Government Technical And Further Education colleges, loved my years working at TAFE! #eltchat

cioccas

3:00 P.M.

@Marisa_C I think you get out of it what you put into it. I found MA very demanding, others thought it a doddle #ELTchat

Marisa_C

3:00 P.M.

@SuperFastGuides Thanks for joining!  #eltchat

lu_bodeman

3:00 P.M.

RT @cioccas: @parrpakala @lu_bodeman I hardly have time for formal study with all the time I'm spending on my PLN, and #ELtchat is big part of that!

DanielaArghir

3:00 P.M.

@Marisa_C very interesting #eltchat thank you everybody.

barbsaka

3:01 P.M.

@Marisa_C And yet there's the persistent myth that all you need to do is speak the language to teach it :) #eltchat

cioccas

3:01 P.M.

@warnhopepark Where did you teach in TAFE? #ELTchat

Zwrzi

3:01 P.M.

Goodbye, #ELTchat -ers. See you in a few hours, again. Ta ta!

EveWeb

3:01 P.M.

RT @Marisa_C: @barbsaka Bizarre indeed! All depends where you are and where you want to work I guess :-)  #eltchat

barbsaka

3:01 P.M.

Still need a summary writer. Please? This will be an easy one--promise! #eltchat

Marisa_C

3:01 P.M.

@barbsaka Bizarre indeed! All depends where you are and where you want to work I guess :-)  #eltchat

iatefl

3:01 P.M.

β€@cherrymp: #IATEFL e-News Bulletin August 2011 http://t.co/MF0uRsU #eltchat #engchat #elt #esl #tefl #teslβ€

PriVanderlei

3:01P.M.

RT @vickyloras: Balancing Work and Life: The On-Going Challenge for Educators  http://t.co/E44ae9j #edu #edchat #ELTChat #finnedchat

cioccas

3:02 P.M.

RT @barbsaka: @Marisa_C And yet there's the persistent myth that all you need to do is speak the language to teach it :) #eltchat

parrpakala

3:02 P.M.

RT @warnhopepark: @Marisa_C TAFE are the Australian Government Technical And Further Education colleges, loved my years working at TAFE! #eltchat

Moacir2

3:02 P.M.

@paige_michael #eltchat I still think the objective of MA is research and indepth study of subject.Experience a must for best performance

Marisa_C

3:02 P.M.

@barbsaka Indeed! Even if you can't speak it you can sometimes teach it too!  #eltchat

TyKendall

3:02 P.M.

@SuperFastGuides  offhand i know Birmingham do, sheffield, bournemouth....if u google search ESOL PGCE they all come up  #ELTChat

cioccas

3:02 P.M.

@parrpakala @warnhopepark @Marisa_C Oh, same in Canberra :( #ELTchat

warnhopepark

3:02 P.M.

Thanks for the inspiring #eltchat everyone! I'd better get back to a) lunch, and b) posting dolly clothes on Etsy! :)

EveWeb

3:02 P.M.

RT @barbsaka: @Marisa_C And yet...the persistent myth that all you need to do is speak the language to teach it :) #eltchat

SuperFastGuides

3:03 P.M.

@TyKendall Cheers, as looking for some teachers with PGCE in TEFL (or equilvalent) #eltchat

Marisa_C

3:03 P.M.

@TyKendall Hey! You rock Ty and TY!  #ELTChat

EveWeb

3:03 P.M.

I need to leave the  discussion too. It was another excellent #eltchat. Congrats!!!  Have a wonderful day. It's 7:30 in Venezuela now.  :D

TyKendall

3:03 P.M.

@barbsaka   #ELTChat i'll do it barbara

Marisa_C

3:03 P.M.

A keen andwonderful person who wants to be our  summary writer pls step forward? #ELTchat

warnhopepark

3:03 P.M.

@cioccas #eltchat First at St George TAFE in Kogarah, S Sydney - dept now closed down - then at Ultimo TAFE, Sydney, which I LOVED! :)

barbsaka

3:03 P.M.

Come on, ELT chatters, won't anyone volunteer for the summary? #eltchat We need you!