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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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10:58
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RT @bethcagnol: It's almost time for #ELTCHAT isn't it? > Yes :-)
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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10:58
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understanding, comprehension and aplication of knowledge does not promote critical thinks skills ss need to read between the lines. #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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10:58
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It's almost time for #ELTCHAT isn't it?
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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10:59
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Welcome to #ELTchat we are talking about developing Critical Thinking skills
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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10:59
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RT @AtefAbdoo: Can't wait for #eltchat to start :) #elt #esl #efl > promotion of Critical Thinking Promotion - hope 4 lots of ideas
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:00
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RT @ShellTerrell: Welcome to #ELTchat we are talking about developing Critical Thinking skills
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:00
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Looking forward to this one #eltchat
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larsgh1
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13/7/2011
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11:00
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RT @Marisa_C: In a few minutes please join our 9 P.M. (British Summertime) #ELTchat on How to promote critical thinking
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:00
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understanding, comprehension and application of knowledge does not promote CTS SS need to read between the lines #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:00
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RT @akhssass: understanding, comprehension and aplication of knowledge does not promote critical thinks skills ss need to read between the lines. #eltchat
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larsgh1
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13/7/2011
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11:00
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RT @ShellTerrell: Welcome to #ELTchat we are talking about developing Critical Thinking skills
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:01
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@ShellTerrell and me are going to be your moderators - if new to #ELTchat please ask us for help - remember to add the hashtag to ur tweets!
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:01
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RT @ShellTerrell: Welcome to #ELTchat we are talking about developing Critical Thinking skills
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:02
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@hartle not for me! #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:02
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So, does critical thinking come naturally? #eltchat
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:02
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we should encourage students to sythesize , analyse and evalute content to improve critical thinking skills #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:02
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RT @bethcagnol: For the next hour, my tweets will be about #ELTCHAT. Come join us! Sorry if I fill up your twitter feed. #ELTCHAT is where it's at.
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:02
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RT @bethcagnol: For the next hour, my tweets will be about #ELTCHAT. Come join us! Sorry if I fill up your twitter feed. #ELTCHAT is where it's at.
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:02
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Good evening #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:02
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For the next hour, my tweets will be about #ELTCHAT. Come join us! Sorry if I fill up your twitter feed. #ELTCHAT is where it's at.
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:02
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RT @Marisa_C: @ShellTerrell and me are going to be your moderators - if new to #ELTchat please ask us for help - remember to add the hashtag to ur tweets!
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weemooseus
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13/7/2011
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11:02
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@ShellTerrell So, what is the definition of "Critical Thinking Skills"? #ELTchat
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:02
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4 a successful critical thinking Ss should be able to ask th right questions #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:03
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@bethcagnol Bon soir #ELTCHAT
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:03
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#eltchat hi everyone!
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pysproblem81
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13/7/2011
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11:03
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#eltchat - Use graphic organisers to help critical thinking like: http://bit.ly/qf8gwZ #exploratree
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:03
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@bcnpaul1 Hi Paul how are u? #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:03
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@hartle some Ss are naturally skilled #eltchat
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:03
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no we sharppen our critical thinking skills not natural #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:03
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@Fuertesun Bon soir Leahn! #ELTCHAT
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:03
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RT @hartle: So, does critical thinking come naturally? #eltchat > To some it does but not to all - like all other abilities I guess
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:03
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RT @hartle: So, does critical thinking come naturally? #eltchat <I don't think so. But maybe like common sense - some ppl do, some don't
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:03
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for the next hr my tweets dedicated to #eltchat
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NoraTouparlaki
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13/7/2011
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11:03
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#eltchat@hartle it takes practice #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:03
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@Marisa_C @ShellTerrell Hourah to our #ELTCHAT moderators!! Marisa and Shelly!
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:03
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RT @barbsaka: Have you voted for today's #ELTchat topic? http://bit.ly/oBZ3kJ There's still time! > And looks like I might be moderating too
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:04
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RT @lu_bodeman: RT @pysproblem81: #eltchat - Use graphic organisers to help critical thinking like: http://bit.ly/qf8gwZ #exploratree >> Good idea
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pysproblem81
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13/7/2011
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11:04
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#eltchat - Reflect #ESOL takes a Freirian (sp?) approach to promoting critical thought/discussion see: http://bit.ly/nqk5q1
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Zwrzi
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13/7/2011
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11:04
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@hartle I believe it's both innate and acquired after educational training. By the way, hello, everyone! #eltchat
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:04
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RT @pysproblem81: #eltchat - Use graphic organisers to help critical thinking like: http://bit.ly/qf8gwZ #exploratree >> Good idea
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:04
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maybe critical thinking is a mature thing you can only teach the reasoning ... #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:04
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RT @Fuertesun: @hartle not for me! #eltchat no, I think we tend to believe what we read far too readily #eltchat
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eyespeakbrasil
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13/7/2011
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11:04
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tweets dedicated to #eltchat for the next hour - thanks!
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yitzha_sarwono
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13/7/2011
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11:04
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @barbsaka: Have you voted for today's #ELTchat topic? http://bit.ly/oBZ3kJ There's still time! > And looks like I might be moderating too
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:05
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what, where and when questions do not sharppen critical thinking skills. but, why , how , do you thing .... promote CT #eltchat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:05
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it's never really been explicitly taught but I think it happens all the time #eltchat
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CoreyBelliveau
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13/7/2011
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11:05
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#eltchat students benefit from explicit teaching of thinking strategies.
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:05
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RT @Zwrzi: @hartle I believe it's both innate and acquired after educational training. By the way, hello, everyone! #eltchat > Hi Georgia!
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:05
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RT @NoraTouparlaki: @Marisa_C shouldn't we find ways to help students promote their critical thinking? wondering.. #eltchat
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:05
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The real challenge is developing critical thinking in L2 when there are some cultural inhibitions to do it in L1 #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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13/7/2011
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11:05
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RT @pysproblem81: #eltchat - Reflect #ESOL takes a Freirian (sp?) approach to promoting critical thought/discussion http://bit.ly/nqk5q1
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NoraTouparlaki
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13/7/2011
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11:05
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@Marisa_C shouldn't we find ways to help students promote their critical thinking? wondering.. #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:05
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RT @Marisa_C: Crtical thinking a higher order thinking ability - right next to Creative thinking #ELTchat
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:05
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RT @akhssass: we should encourage students to sythesize , analyse and evalute content to improve critical thinking skills #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:05
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Crtical thinking a higher order thinking ability - right next to Creative thinking #ELTchat
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mickstout
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13/7/2011
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11:05
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@Marisa_C @barbsaka Man! Wednesday is such a bad night for me :-( Hopefully I'll be able to join #ELTchat sometime during the summer break.
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:06
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@hartle Graphic organisers are information gatherers not particularly oriented towards critical thinking #eltchat #exploratree
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:06
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RT @weemooseus: @ShellTerrell So, what is the definition of "Critical Thinking Skills"? #ELTchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:06
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RT @MarianSteiner: The real challenge is developing critical thinking in L2 when there are some cultural inhibitions to do it in L1 #eltchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:06
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@CoreyBelliveau What kind of strategies do you use with your students? #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:06
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RT @Marisa_C: @ShellTerrell and me are going to be your moderators - if new to #ELTchat please ask us for help - remember to add the hashtag to ur tweets!
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pysproblem81
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13/7/2011
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11:06
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@Marisa_C yeah, I always feel an inductive approach helps... #eltchat
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:06
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Some ss don't want to make the effort. I've tried, so I'm anxious to see what'll come up in today's #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:06
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RT @pysproblem81: #eltchat - Use graphic organisers to help critical thinking like: http://bit.ly/qf8gwZ #exploratree >> Nice :-)
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:06
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RT @MarianSteiner: The real challenge is developing critical thinking in L2 when there are some cultural inhibitions to do it in L1 #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:06
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RT @Marisa_C: Critical thinking a requirement if we are to use discovery learning and problem solving oriented teaching #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:06
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Critical thinking a requirement if we are to use discovery learning and problem solving oriented teaching #ELTchat
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pysproblem81
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13/7/2011
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11:07
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@sandymillin don't give them the grammar rule, etc... ask them to work it out from the evidence #eltchat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:07
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RT @theteacherjames: Teaching critical thinking can make our lessons really substantial & memorable. #eltchat > agree with that
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vickyloras
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13/7/2011
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11:07
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RT @MarianSteiner: The real challenge is developing critical thinking in L2 when there are some cultural inhibitions to do it in L1 #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:07
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It's HOW the learners use the information collected to make decisions that I think is important - in that sense they help #ELTchat :-)
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:07
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@Marisa_C I read graphic organizers can help with CT #eltchat #exploratree
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:07
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RT @pysproblem81: @Marisa_C yeah, I always feel an inductive approach helps... #eltchat <may be a stupid question, but what's this?
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:07
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If students believe everything the read, the shouldn t read. read between the lines #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:07
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Me too! "@bcnpaul1: for the next hr my tweets dedicated to #eltchat"
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:07
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@MarianSteiner Any input on getting through the inhibitions to do it in the L1? #ELTCHAT
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:07
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RT @Marisa_C: Critical thinking a requirement if we are to use discovery learning and problem solving oriented teaching #ELTchat >> yes!
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:07
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Teaching critical thinking is the kind of subject that can make our lessons really substantial & memorable. #eltchat
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vickyloras
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13/7/2011
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11:07
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RT @Marisa_C: @hartle Graphic organisers are information gatherers not particularly oriented towards critical thinking #eltchat #exploratree
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:08
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RT @Marisa_C: Crtical thinking a higher order thinking ability - right next to Creative thinking #ELTchat there are a few steps on the way
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:08
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#eltchat oops - that is poetry and stories
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:08
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RT @bcnpaul1: RT @theteacherjames: Teaching critical thkg can make our lessons + substantial & memorable. #eltchat > agree with that >> me 2
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:08
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@Fuertesun I suppose deciding on information categories can do sth towards developing critical thinking - yes #eltchat #exploratree
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:08
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@Marisa_C agree and it shows the development of L2 #eltchat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:08
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@ShellTerrell evenin' ms.shelly! :) #eltchat
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:08
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#eltchat Our new program in Israel for high-school requires Eng TS to teach these skills through poetry. we've got a list of skills
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NoraTouparlaki
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13/7/2011
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11:08
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RT @Marisa_C: It's HOW the learners use the information collected to make decisions that I think is important - in that sense they help #ELTchat :-)
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:08
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@Marisa_C Yes.. that's where they help #ELTchat
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eyespeakbrasil
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13/7/2011
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11:09
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Hi everyone, isnΒ΄t games based learning the best way to develop critical thinking? Esp for BE students. #eltchat
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fceblog
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13/7/2011
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11:09
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@MarianSteiner Interesting thought. Please say more. #ELTchat Hello from Buenos Aires!
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:09
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@Marisa_C Ct or higher thinking? #ELTchat
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:09
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Students send their piece of work around to others and each of them provides constructive feedback for improving the work. #eltchat
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DougiesDen
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13/7/2011
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11:09
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How much does improving Critical Thinking hv 2 do with whts personally critical 2 the person? #onesizefitsall #ELTchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:09
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @NoraTouparlaki: @Marisa_C shouldn't we find ways to help students... #eltchat I'm sure we http://ow.ly/1uAf4d our work
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:09
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First they should be careful the words that lead to the meaning to learn critical thinking #eltchat
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tdsig
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13/7/2011
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11:09
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RT @naomishema: Just Posted: A Picture Guide to Being a Teacher http://bit.ly/p8tdeh #eltchat #deafed #spedchat
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:09
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@bethcagnol so far, letting sts do mind maps about topics really encouraged them to develop their own knowledge > experience #eltchat
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AnthonyGaughan
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13/7/2011
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11:09
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RT @naomishema: Just Posted: A Picture Guide to Being a Teacher http://bit.ly/p8tdeh #eltchat #deafed #spedchat
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mkofab
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13/7/2011
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11:09
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@naomishema Can you elaborate on that please. How ? #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:09
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@harrisonmike exactly - any discovery learning or language awareness activ involves critical thinking #ELTchat
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harrisonmike
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13/7/2011
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11:09
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Better than I put! RT @pysproblem81: @sandymillin don't give them the grammar rule, etc.. ask them to work it out from the evidence #eltchat
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vickyloras
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13/7/2011
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11:09
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RT @pysproblem81: @sandymillin don't give them the grammar rule, etc... ask them to work it out from the evidence #eltchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:09
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@harrisonmike @pysproblem81 Thanks! #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:09
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I think @brad5patterson recent blog post is related to this #ELTCHAT http://t.co/tVov7bC
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:09
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@mickstout :-( haven't been able to moderate early chat myself for weeeks! TP time #ELTchat
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Zwrzi
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13/7/2011
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11:10
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@harrisonmike @pysproblem81 @sandymillin Teach them grammar inductively, that is! #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:10
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RT @CoreyBelliveau: #eltchat students benefit from explicit teaching of thinking strategies. > completely agree, so how to do it?
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:10
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@harrisonmike I thnk so #eltchat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:10
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RT @eyespeakbrasil: isnΒ΄t games based learning the best way to develop critical thinking? Esp for BE students. #eltchat > it's one way
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:10
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RT @vickyloras: With vocabulary,we should let them find out the meaning on their own-context #ELTChat
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harrisonmike
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13/7/2011
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11:10
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@Marisa_C How much depends on how engaged the students are, and how you direct it. Am I on the right lines? #eltchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:10
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@naomishema What kind of things does the list include? #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:10
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RT @vickyloras: With vocabulary,we should let them find out the meaning on their own-context #ELTChat
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:10
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RT @eyespeakbrasil: Hi everyone, isnΒ΄t games based learning the best way to develop critical thinking? Esp for BE students. #eltchat
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vickyloras
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13/7/2011
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11:10
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With vocabulary,we should let them find out the meaning on their own-context #ELTChat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:10
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RT @Marisa_C: any discovery learning or language awareness activ involves critical thinking #ELTchat > true & some forget this
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:11
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @mcneilmahon: RT @CoreyBelliveau: #eltchat Include problem soliving activities and decision making games
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:11
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RT @ShellTerrell: It's important students learn to question #eltchat
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:11
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RT @mcneilmahon: RT @akhssass: what, where and when questions do not sharppen critical thinking skills. but, why , how , do you think... promote CT #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:11
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In Korea I found critical skills lacking with many of (adult, teacher) sts. Me: What did you think of the film? St: It was good. #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:11
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It's important students learn to question #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:11
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RT @mcneilmahon: RT @CoreyBelliveau: #eltchat Include problem soliving activities and decision making games
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:11
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What do we mean by CT?#eltchat
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NoraTouparlaki
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13/7/2011
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11:11
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RT @vickyloras: With vocabulary,we should let them find out the meaning on their own-context #ELTChat _so fro… (cont) http://deck.ly/~P0kcZ
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:11
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RT @akhssass: what, where and when questions do not sharppen critical thinking skills. but, why , how , do you think... promote CT #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:11
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @vickyloras: With vocabulary,we should let them find out the meaning on their own-context #ELTChat
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pysproblem81
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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@harrisonmike I'd guess most things can be taken critically - just ask lots of the right questions.... #eltchat (gross oversimplication?)
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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@akhssass what's the four X theory? and the SQ4R? thanks! #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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RT @akhssass: Students send their piece of work around to others and each of them provides constructive feedback for improving the work. #eltchat
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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RT @NoraTouparlaki: RT @ShellTerrell: It's important students learn to question #eltchat ask for causes, find solutions, explanations etc
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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@ShellTerrell It's important students learn to question #eltchat >> Oh so true. And it's not always easy in one semester.
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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RT @vickyloras: With vocabulary,we should let them find out the meaning on their own-context #ELTChat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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@eyespeakbrasil Autonomy involves decision making certainly #eltchat
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TESOL_Assn
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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RT @Marisa_C: The transcript for the 12 P.M. #ELTchat on the Best Web 2.0 Resources for ELT is now up!!!! http://bit.ly/oWdNGY
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CoreyBelliveau
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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I believe that in order to be critical thinking, students need to make a decision or judgement about a topic or question #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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RT @harrisonmike: @Marisa_C How much depends on how engaged the students are, and how you direct it. Am I on the right lines? #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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Asking students to make choices alone and then discuss w/partners is a good starting point #eltchat
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NoraTouparlaki
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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RT @ShellTerrell: It's important students learn to question #eltchat ask for causes, find solutions, explanations etc
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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RT @bcnpaul1: RT @eyespeakbrasil: isnΒ΄t games based learning the best way to develop critical thinking? Esp for BE students. #eltchat > it's one way
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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Learners need to ne aware of how the words writers choose and the content they pick reveals their attidtude and stance #eltchat
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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Problem solving and discovering new perspectives on things = CT #eltchat
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eyespeakbrasil
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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It might be best descibed as reflective, or contemplative - yes? #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @mcneilmahon: RT @CoreyBelliveau: #eltchat Include problem soliving activities and decision making games
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barbarabujtas
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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for me critical thinking in ELT means learner autonomy
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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RT @ShellTerrell: It's important students learn to question #eltchat > and discuss various answers too :)
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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RT @theteacherjames: In Korea I found critical skills lacking with many of (adult, teacher) sts. Me: What did you think of the film? St: It was good. #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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Ok, what kind of topics in particular are good for promoting critical thinking? Grammar if approached thru discovery learning &... #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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RT @theteacherjames: In Korea I found critical skills lacking with many of (adult, teacher) sts. Me: What did you think of the film? St: It was good. #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @vickyloras: With vocabulary,we should let them find out the meaning on their own-context #ELTChat
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:12
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in grammar we use the fou X theory in reading SQ4R to promote CT #eltchat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:13
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Crit.Thinking is def. about developing autonomy & developing cognitive skills for lang. learning IMO #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:13
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@Marisa_C CLIL is good for CT...or HOTS #ELTchat
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:13
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@domi75P and try their best to use new clear words lead to the targeted meaning #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:13
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Took a lot of work to try & draw them out, express & formulate opinions. Not about intelligence, but tools of expression & thought. #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:13
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@ShellTerrell I sometimes invite students to question my approach in the classroom. It shocks a few, but gets them thinking. #ELTCHAT
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:13
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RT @theteacherjames: In Korea I found critical skills lacking St: It was good. #eltchat Yes this use of "vague" adjectives very common.
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:13
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Are any of you teachers of young or very young learners? And what kinds of crtitical thinking skills training can you include w YLs #ELTchat
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:13
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RT @bethcagnol: @ShellTerrell It's important students learn to question #eltchat >> Oh so true. And it's not always easy in 1 semester.>true
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:13
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7@hartle Critically viewing texts sounds interesting do u do this in class? #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:13
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RT @domi75P: First they should be careful the words that lead to the meaning to learn critical thinking #eltchat
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:13
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#eltchat the list includes inferences, perspective, identifying cause and effect, evaluating, comparing classifying....
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mkofab
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13/7/2011
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11:14
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@theteacherjames Might culture have sth to do with the extent to which CT is encouraged ? #eltchat
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:14
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#eltchat Hello all dear eltchat friends !!
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eyespeakbrasil
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13/7/2011
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11:14
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RT @bethcagnol: @ShellTerrell I sometimes invite students to question my approach in the classroom. It shocks a few, but gets them thinking. #ELTCHAT
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:14
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@Fuertesun As long as it's not just about learning /memorising the content - yes #ELTchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:14
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@akhssass: in grammar we use the fou X theory in reading SQ4R to promote CT #eltchat I teach the SQ3R method too
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:15
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RT @harrisonmike: Going out on a limb here: Coursebooks, when used in a linear fashion, and are the only resources DON'T promote critical thinking #eltchat
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pysproblem81
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13/7/2011
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11:15
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@mkofab definitely - Hofstede talks about 'power distance' varying between different cultures - high PD less likely to question.... #eltchat
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barbarabujtas
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13/7/2011
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11:15
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RT @Zwrzi: @mcneilmahon #eltchat Totally agree. Another starting point could be stop spoon-feeding the learners. #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:15
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RT @barbarabujtas: RT @bcnpaul1: Crit.Thinking is def. about developing autonomy & developing cognitive skills for lang. learning IMO #eltchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:15
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.@SeanBanville's series on ideas to change the world could be used to promote CT - change SS' view of world? http://bit.ly/qVT9aj #eltchat
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:15
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RT@ShellTerrell "@akhssass: in grammar we use the fou X theory in reading SQ4R to promote CT #eltchat" I teach the SQ3R method too > ???
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:15
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RT @Fuertesun: 7@hartle Critically viewing do this in class? #eltchat Yes, see wiki work http://ow.ly/1uAfBp for advanced learners
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:15
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@ShellTerrell @akhssass Survey question read recall reflect #eltchat
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Zwrzi
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13/7/2011
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11:15
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@mcneilmahon #eltchat Totally agree. Another starting point could be stop spoon-feeding the learners.
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barbarabujtas
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13/7/2011
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11:15
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RT @bcnpaul1: Crit.Thinking is def. about developing autonomy & developing cognitive skills for lang. learning IMO #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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13/7/2011
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11:15
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Going out on a limb here: Coursebooks, when used in a linear fashion, and are the only resources DON'T promote critical thinking #eltchat
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:16
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#eltchat "the road not taken" was used for problem solving skills and inferences. Eng TS complaining bitterly should be taught in L1 first
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eyespeakbrasil
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13/7/2011
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11:16
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RT @theteacherjames: @mcneilmahon @CoreyBelliveau Give them juicy materials to interact with, prompt & stimulate debate in groups. Offer alt. opinions #eltchat
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:16
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#eltchat critical thinking starts and ends at the students !
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eyespeakbrasil
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13/7/2011
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11:16
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@harrisonmike youΒ΄re right there! #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:16
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@barbarabujtas: RT @Zwrzi: @mcneilmahon #eltchat Totally agree. Another starting point could be stop spoon-feeding the learners. #eltchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:16
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RT @Marisa_C: Are any of you teachers of young or very young learners? And what kinds of crtitical thinking skills training can you include w YLs #ELTchat
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Zwrzi
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13/7/2011
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11:16
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@bcnpaul1 #eltchat This requires time, though, doesn't it. You can't expect learner and Rome to be built in a day!
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:16
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@Marisa_C YLs & CT - presentations work well, w//teens, puzzles & online games w/YLs - both work well #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:16
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@mcneilmahon @CoreyBelliveau Give them juicy materials to interact with, prompt & stimulate debate in groups. Offer alt. opinions #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:16
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@Marisa_C Hi yes in Spain there's a lot of memorising info in content teaching try to steer clear of that #ELTchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:16
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RT @harrisonmike: Going out on a limb here: Coursebooks, when used in a linear fashion, and are the only resources DON'T promote critical thinking #eltchat
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barbarabujtas
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13/7/2011
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11:17
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cT is about knowing what we know and why + questioning routines, hm? #eltchat
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:17
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Provide structured opportunities for students to think and work in pairs or groups #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:17
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RT @sandymillin: .@SeanBanville's ...http://bit.ly/qVT9aj #eltchat Yes but not too overly prescriptive or just another imposition
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pysproblem81
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13/7/2011
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11:17
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@harrisonmike what's important in a good breakfast? Why do you think so ?#eltchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:17
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RT @akhssass: @ShellTerrell @akhssass Survey question read recall reflect #eltchat
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vbenevolofranca
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13/7/2011
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11:17
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@Fuertesun Think critical thinking is a cultural issue. Since our dictatorship ended, seen improved ability to question amongst sts #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:17
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@harrisonmike good approach with YLs #eltchat
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:17
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RT @mcneilmahon: Remember, understand, apply, analyse, evaluate, create - bllom's taxonomy - plan lessons going from bottom to top #ELTchat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:17
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@Zwrzi true - it's something that has to be developed. sometimes difficult when t's change all the time w/diff. approaches #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:17
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@mkofab @domi75P Comes from the education system I think. Is it developed in the young or not? #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:17
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Remember, understand, apply, analyse, evaluate, create - bllom's taxonomy - plan lessons going from bottom to top #ELTchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:17
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RT @Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 As long as we remember tho that with Yls critical thinking a DEVELOPING faculty and limitations to what they can process #eltchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:17
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RT @MarianSteiner: @fceblog @mcneilmahon @sandymillin e.g. in CzechRep, lrnrs mostly expctd 2 accept thought, rather than develop own, need encourgmnt #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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13/7/2011
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11:17
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Simple things can promo critical thinking, e.g. breakfast - 'What did you eat?' Then 'Where did it come from?' 'Why did u eat it?' #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:17
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@bcnpaul1 As long as we remember tho that with Yls critical thinking a DEVELOPING faculty and limitations to what they can process #eltchat
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:17
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@fceblog @mcneilmahon @sandymillin e.g. in CzechRep, lrnrs mostly expctd 2 accept thought, rather than develop own, need encourgmnt #eltchat
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larsgh1
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13/7/2011
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11:18
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RT @ShellTerrell: #eltchat its important teachers don't focus on the answer but more the process of searching for answers
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:18
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@Zwrzi quality education stops at kindergarten :-( #eltchat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:18
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@Marisa_C true - but it's a skills worth developing without it being expicit - good for life skills w/YLs as well as lang. #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:18
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#eltchat its important teachers don't focus on the answer but more the process of searching for answers
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:18
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@Zwrzi yes here it's all about that! #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:18
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@Zwrzi Definitely #eltchat
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:18
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RT @akhssass: Provide structured opportunities for students to think and work in pairs or groups #eltchat > Yes, this helps a lot
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:18
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RT @theteacherjames: @mcneilmahon @CoreyBelliveau Give them juicy materials to interact with, prompt & stimulate debate in groups. Offer alt. opinions #eltchat
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Zwrzi
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13/7/2011
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11:18
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@Fuertesun @Marisa_C #eltchat That's how the edu system works in Greece, too. Am I wrong,@Marisa_C ?A lot of memorising,esp in state schools
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:18
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@vbenevolofranca yes it does depend on the society and situation....good point #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:18
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@vbenevolofranca thanks for mentioning the politics of teaching or not teaching critical thinking in schools #eltchat
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weemooseus
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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Is critical thinking reformulating a seemingly difficult problem into one we know how to solve? #ELTchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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RT @ayatawel: #eltchat , It has to start with young learners to develop effective CT as they grow up!!
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NoraTouparlaki
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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@vbenevolofranca the same here in greece, with the whole mess in political situation, kids became more inquiring-minded! #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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Get stds to look at word choice: the difference btwn freedom fighters or terrorists for example & wht that reveals abt the writer #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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@bcnpaul1 I fully agree - but the specifications must be worded in specific and very relevant to the child ways #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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RT @vbenevolofranca: @Fuertesun Think critical thinking is a cultural issue. Since our dictatorship ended, seen improved ability to question amongst sts #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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RT @naomishema: #eltchat debating issues is good. building the case for your point of view includes lots of skills
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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#eltchat , It has to start with young learners to develop effective CT as they grow up!!
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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RT @bethcagnol: Throwing this in here: since many teach by example, how can teachers demonstrate critical thinking 4 their sts? #ELTCHAT
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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We should remember that learning only takes place when learners think. no thinking = no learning #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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I think challenging expected behaviours and norms is a big part of critical thinking -not accepting the status quo #eltchat
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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#eltchat debating issues is good. building the case for your point of view includes lots of skills
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mkofab
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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RT @ShellTerrell: #eltchat its important teachers don't focus on the answer but more the process of searching for answers <agree!
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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@Marisa_C i think it's a little bit hard to use CT with young learners under 8 years but others are able #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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RT @MarianSteiner: RT @akhssass: Provide structured opportunities for students to think and work in pairs or groups #eltchat > Yes, this helps a lot
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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RT @barbarabujtas: RT @ShellTerrell: #eltchat its important teachers dont focus on the answer but more the process of searching for answers #eltchat
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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spot on > RT @fceblog: I see. Probably a culture of not questioning the authority. Takes time to deal with that #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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Throwing this in here: since many teach by example, how can teachers demonstrate critical thinking 4 their sts? #ELTCHAT
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aueagle1
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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RT @bcnpaul1: RT @eyespeakbrasil: isnΒ΄t games based learning the best way to develop critical thinking? Esp for BE students. #eltchat > it's one way
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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Surely not RT @Marisa_C: @Zwrzi quality education stops at kindergarten :-( #eltchat
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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RT @Fuertesun: @Zwrzi yes here it's all about that! #eltchat >> In Brazil too. :(
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pysproblem81
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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#eltchat - Don't know if this is a different debate - but how does CT aid language learning?
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barbarabujtas
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13/7/2011
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11:19
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RT @ShellTerrell: #eltchat its important teachers dont focus on the answer but more the process of searching for answers #eltchat
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mkofab
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13/7/2011
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11:20
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RT @harrisonmike: Stereotypes too, rich resource for picking apart from a critical viewpoint #eltchat> interesting! #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:20
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@PrettyButWise agree fully - they CAN however make some decisions or observations if worded properly #eltchat
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vickyloras
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13/7/2011
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11:20
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RT @harrisonmike: Stereotypes too, rich resource for picking apart from a critical viewpoint #eltchat
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:20
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RT @harrisonmike: Stereotypes too, rich resource for picking apart from a critical viewpoint #eltchat >> Nice
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:20
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always use a warmer w/adults & YLs - your day so far in smells/ colours / sounds etc. nice to get thought going in a different way #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:20
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@mkofab @shellterrell and more on grammar and well formed speech also fluenty #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:20
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@ShellTerrell Can we also say the same thing in testing? Focus more on the process rather than the answer? #ELTCHAT
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fceblog
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13/7/2011
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11:20
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@ShellTerrell #eltchat Sometimes students expect a final word from the teacher. A right or wrong reduction. How to deal with that?
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:20
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RT @sandymillin: .@SeanBanville's series on ideas to change the world could be used to promote CT - change SS' view of world? http://bit.ly/qVT9aj #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:20
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RT @mkofab: RT @ShellTerrell: #eltchat its important teachers don't focus on the answer but more the process of searching for answers <agree!
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harrisonmike
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13/7/2011
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11:20
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Stereotypes too, rich resource for picking apart from a critical viewpoint #eltchat
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:20
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RT @ayatawel: #eltchat , It has to start with young learners to develop effective CT as they grow up!!
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Zwrzi
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13/7/2011
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11:20
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@bcnpaul1 #eltchat E.g. my edu training as a Ss involved lots of memorisation and it was difficult 4me to critically think when in the UK.
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:20
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RT @ShellTerrell: #eltchat its important teachers don't focus on the answer but more the process of searching for answers
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pjgallantry
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13/7/2011
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11:20
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#eltchat my take on World Englishes and a proposed model: Citizens, Denizens, Commuters and Tourists http://t.co/0np53wp #efl #esol #elt
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Collaborative
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13/7/2011
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11:20
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#iatefl #eltchat #SL #Opensim 2-Way Cross-Platform #Hyperstreaming Config via Media-On-A-Prim http://ht.ly/5D9sG
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:21
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RT @ShellTerrell: does age matter when teaching critical thinking? Different approaches? #eltchat
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:21
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@NoraTouparlaki I guess yes, they have to help develop it with teachers !!#eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:21
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RT @harrisonmike: Simple things can promo C Thinking :breakfast 'What did you eat?' 'Where did it come from?' 'Why did u eat it?' #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:21
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@akhssass Thinking about one's own learning takes a different kind of awareness but adds to and enhances critical thinking #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:21
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does age matter when teaching critical thinking? Different approaches? #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:21
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RT @bethcagnol: @ayatawel Agreed, but for those of us who teach adults, developing CT skills is a bit of a challenge. #ELTCHAT
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:21
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In CT answers are important too because they have to be justified and defended #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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13/7/2011
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11:21
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RT @mcneilmahon: RT @bcnpaul1: always use a warmer - your day so far in smells/ colours / sounds etc. nice to get thought going in a different way #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:21
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@ayatawel Agreed, but for those of us who teach adults, developing CT skills is a bit of a challenge. #ELTCHAT
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:21
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#eltchat Uh oh -testing is problematic. hotly debated here. kids that deal with thinking skills easier are rewarded regardless of studying
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:21
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RT @bcnpaul1: always use a warmer - your day so far in smells/ colours / sounds etc. nice to get thought going in a different way #eltchat
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Zwrzi
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13/7/2011
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11:21
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RT @ayatawel: #eltchat , It has to start with young learners to develop effective CT as they grow up!!
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:21
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SS need to think about where they are in their learning where they need to go and how best to get there. this way they improve #eltchat
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NoraTouparlaki
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13/7/2011
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11:21
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@ayatawel so, could we say that the family contributes to their CT?? #eltchat
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:22
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#eltchat I am not sure or why do we learn so much from our ss RT @ShellTerrell: does age matter when teachin… (cont) http://deck.ly/~3QvKF
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:22
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@fceblog Interesting input (re: testing) #ELTCHAT
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pysproblem81
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13/7/2011
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11:22
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RT @bcnpaul1: RT @ShellTerrell: #eltchat its important teachers don't focus on the answer but more the process of searching for answers > definitely
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:22
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follow up tasks to texts can be CT focused - SS given opp to mkae the topic and the language their own #ELTchat #eltchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:22
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@mcneilmahon do you have a good Bloom's Taxonomy link? #ELTchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:22
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RT @fceblog: @ShellTerrell #eltchat.Train thm to accept you as human, get them to analyse yr language. Wht does it reveal abtyr attitudes?
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:22
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RT @ShellTerrell: #eltchat its important teachers don't focus on the answer but more the process of searching for answers > definitely
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:22
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@bethcagnol That's why YL teachers have to start it early !! to help u !! #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:22
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@ShellTerrell I think it's easier with kids.. teach em to question things... adults u assume they have CT skills #eltchat
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vickyloras
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13/7/2011
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11:22
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RT @bethcagnol: @ayatawel Agreed, but for those of us who teach adults, developing CT skills is a bit of a challenge. #ELTCHAT
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fceblog
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13/7/2011
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11:22
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@bethcagnol We can. I think they need to be invited to focus on the process of the test, before they know the mark. #ELTchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:22
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RT @harrisonmike: Simple things can promo critical thinking, e.g. breakfast - 'What did you eat?' Then 'Where did it come from?' 'Why did u eat it?' #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:22
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I mean, what about CT and Testing? Can the two live in harmony? #ELTCHAT
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kyraocity
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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RT @mariansteiner: RT @akhssass: Provide structured opportunities for students to think and work in pairs or groups #eltchat > helps a lot
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LindsayMaple
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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RT @akhssass: Students send their piece of work around to others and each of them provides constructive feedback for improving the work. #eltchat
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Dru_Step
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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#eltchat As Adv teacher I spend my first term getting sts out of non-crit thnking methods. Get a lot of "Just give us the answer!!" begging!
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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RT @ShellTerrell: does age matter? Different approaches? #eltchat > Yes, altho using games & fun to ease the stress w/ adults helped a lot
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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@fceblog @shellterrell by asking questions might help them to have their own finaal word not depending the teacher's opinion #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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@ayatawel :-) #ELTCHAT
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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RT @bcnpaul1: RT @pysproblem81: #eltchat - Don't know if this is a different debate - but how does CT aid language learning? > good question!
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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RT @sandymillin: @mcneilmahon do you have a good Bloom's Taxonomy link? #ELTchat Not on me, but I'm gonna be looking into him more soon
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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@vickyloras yes of course !!that's the point !!#eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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@fceblog I think they would need to be told right from the beginning, though. #ELTCHAT
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little_miss_glo
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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RT @bethcagnol: @ayatawel Agreed, but for those of us who teach adults, developing CT skills is a bit of a challenge. #ELTCHAT
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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RT @pysproblem81: #eltchat - Don't know if this is a different debate - but how does CT aid language learning? > good question!
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harrisonmike
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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@bethcagnol More like challenging preconceived ideas, opinions and behaviours, dare I say it, prejudices? #eltchat CT with adults
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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RT @ShellTerrell: #eltchat its important teachers don't focus on the answer but more the process of searching for answers
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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RT @naomishema: #eltchat Uh oh -testing is problematic. hotly debated here. kids that deal with thinking skills easier are rewarded regardless of studying
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barbarabujtas
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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RT @Fuertesun: @ShellTerrell I think its easier with kids.. teach em to question things... adults u assume they have CT skills #eltchat
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vickyloras
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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@bethcagnol @ayatawel And i've noticed,sometimes it's more difficult to get CT out of adults than kiddos #ELTCHat
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Yohimar
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13/7/2011
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11:23
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @barbsaka: Have you voted for today's #ELTchat topic? http://bit.ly/oBZ3kJ There's still time! (cont) http://tl.gd/bmudv2
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pysproblem81
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13/7/2011
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11:24
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@bethcagnol Depends on the test, I'd say #eltchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:24
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RT @ShellTerrell: #eltchat its important teachers don't focus on the answer but more the process of searching for answers
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SpinLingo
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13/7/2011
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11:24
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@Marisa_C create a situation where the question/answer is too obvious, encourage the student to look for the smart answer #ELTchat
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march4teachers
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13/7/2011
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11:24
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RT @ShellTerrell: #eltchat its important teachers don't focus on the answer but more the process of searching for answers
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:24
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RT @mcneilmahon: RT @bethcagnol: I mean, what about CT and Testing? Can the two live in harmony? #ELTCHAT > definitely if test well-constructed
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:24
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RT @harrisonmike: @bethcagnol More like challenging preconceived ideas, opinions and behaviours, dare I say it, prejudices? #eltchat CT with adults
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:24
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#eltchat when the tests are only based on thinking skills there is serious disparity between one test to another and kids stop studying
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:24
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@bcnpaul1 Yes good question, don't have to be a CT to be an advanced ss #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:24
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RT @bethcagnol: I mean, what about CT and Testing? Can the two live in harmony? #ELTCHAT > definitely if test well-constructed
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:24
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@vickyloras @ayatawel Sometimes it's like pulling teeth, actually. #ELTCHAT
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:24
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RT @bethcagnol: I mean, what about CT and Testing? Can the two live in harmony? #ELTCHAT >>Excellent question!
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:24
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RT @ShellTerrell Does age matter ? Different approaches? #eltchat >>> prob diff topics 4 younger crowd, tho still critical thinking, no ?
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:24
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@sandymillin Yes I do #ELTchat But here is a different one for teacher of YLs http://bit.ly/rr3jpf
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:24
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@bethcagnol The way we test CT is the key !!#eltchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:25
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RT @naomishema: #eltchat debating issues is good. building the case for your point of view includes lots of skills
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:25
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RT @Fuertesun: @ShellTerrell... adults u assume they have CT skills #eltchat > dangerous assumption
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kyraocity
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13/7/2011
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11:25
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RT @harrisonmike: I think challenging expected behaviours and norms is a big part of critical thinking-not accepting the status quo #eltchat
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LindsayMaple
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13/7/2011
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11:25
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RT @barbarabujtas: RT @bcnpaul1: Crit.Thinking is def. about developing autonomy & developing cognitive skills for lang. learning IMO #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:26
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@akhssass but thinking and CT are different right? #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:26
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@pysproblem81: #eltchat - but how does CT aid language learning? > added processing of language involved in CT aids acquisition
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:26
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@pysproblem81 I think it also depends on the test developer. #ELTCHAT
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:26
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RT @naomishema: #eltchat debating issues is good. building the case for your point of view includes lots of skills
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:26
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Here is a nice wiki with Blooms http://bit.ly/ZBHi9 #ELTchat :-)
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:26
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CT aid developing L2 and increases the vocabulary and reinforces grammar and well forming speech #eltchat
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misuzb
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13/7/2011
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11:26
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@aClilToClimb And I like Bubbl.us #Eltchat What do you like about Spider?
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:26
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@naomishema That's why a test is not only CT !!#eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:26
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@naomishema I have to agree, sadly. CT can't be the only thing that's tested. #ELTCHAT
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:26
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RT @akhssass: We should remember that learning only takes place when learners think. no thinking = no learning #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:26
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@mcneilmahon Yes but is it my job as an ELT teacher to teach CT skills to adults????? kind of feel duty bound with kids.. #eltchat
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:26
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RT @kyraocity: RT @harrisonmike: I think challenging expected behaviours and norms is a big part of critical thinking-not accepting the status quo #eltchat
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fceblog
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13/7/2011
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11:26
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@mcneilmahon @sandymillin #ELTchat Bloom's taxonomy: http://t.co/us9T2mu Help yourselves!
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harrisonmike
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13/7/2011
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11:27
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RT @mcneilmahon: RT @Dru_Step: #eltchat Get a lot of "Just give us the answer!!" begging! > It def takes patience and perserverance to promote CT
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:27
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As an EFL teacher I would say link words and modals ;-) RT @mcneilmahon: @pysproblem81: #eltchat - but how do… (cont) http://deck.ly/~UDQFA
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:27
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@naomishema Do u have tests depending only on CT !! That's not very nice !! and not totally perfect !!#eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:27
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RT @bcnpaul1: RT @pysproblem81: #eltchat - Don't know if this is a different debate - but how does CT aid language learning? > good question!
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:27
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RT @Dru_Step: #eltchat Get a lot of "Just give us the answer!!" begging! > It def takes patience and perserverance to promote CT
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:27
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Activating students as owners of their own learning and as instructional resources for one another has many benefits #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:27
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RT @Dru_Step: #eltchat As Adv teacher I spend my first term getting sts out of non-crit thnking methods. Get a lot of "Just give us the answer!!" begging!
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AtefAbdoo
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13/7/2011
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11:27
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Sorry for being late :( , Can we talk about some practical ideas to promote CT to YLs? #eltchat
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harrisonmike
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13/7/2011
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11:27
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@pysproblem81 Not with the Adult Literacy Test!! #eltchat Or Skills for Life ESOL
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:27
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@mcneilmahon Working out and figuring meaning, form, function, register etc part and parcel of language learning and neec CT #eltchat
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barbarabujtas
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13/7/2011
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11:27
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RT @Marisa_C: Here is a nice wiki with Blooms http://bit.ly/ZBHi9 #ELTchat :-) #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:27
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@bethcagnol @vickyloras @ayatawel Like pulling teeth? Amen to that! #ELTCHAT
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vickyloras
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13/7/2011
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11:27
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RT @bethcagnol: @naomishema I have to agree, sadly. CT can't be the only thing that's tested. #ELTCHAT
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:27
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RT @mcneilmahon: : #eltchat - but how does CT aid language learning? added processing of language involved in CT aids acquisition
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:27
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RT @brad5patterson: RT @ShellTerrell Does age matter ? Different approaches? #eltchat >>> prob diff topics 4 younger crowd, tho still critical thinking, no ?
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:27
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RT @naomishema: #eltchat when the tests are only based on thinking skills there is serious disparity between one test to another and kids stop studying
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NoraTouparlaki
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13/7/2011
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11:28
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@MarianSteiner if you were a politician....you'd say that definitely:) #eltchat
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:28
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@naomishema I guess u don't show it, u let them do it !!#eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:28
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(side note) day-before 14th-of-July fireworks! Yay! #ELTCHAT
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:28
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Here's a powerpoint of Bloom, bt don't know id it's any gd. No Flash in my ipad http://ow.ly/1uAgJg #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:28
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RT @harrisonmike: I think challenging expected behaviours and norms is a big part of critical thinking-not accepting the status quo #eltchat
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:28
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RT @vbenevolofranca: @mcneilmahon @bcnpaul1 Great idea 4 YL. If they see things different points of view gr8 start to critical thinking in ELT class #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:28
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RT @akhssass: Activating students as owners of their own learning and as instructional resources for one another has many benefits #eltchat
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:28
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#eltchat - i didn't manage to follow - how can the teacher show use of CT to the ss?
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:28
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Is anyone using Global? #eltchat
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vbenevolofranca
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13/7/2011
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11:28
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@mcneilmahon @bcnpaul1 Great idea 4 YL. If they see things different points of view gr8 start to critical thinking in ELT class #eltchat
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Dru_Step
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13/7/2011
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11:28
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#eltchat I find taking thought-process from "I" to to "why/how" helps e.g. I learn English -> How do people learn languages? ...
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:28
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@Fuertesun @mcneilmahon I think it's our duty to give them the opportunity. #ELTCHAT
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:28
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oops.. I almost wrote critical thinking kills ... :) #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:29
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@Fuertesun no, but you'll teach language 'better' if you include CT, it motivates, engages and helps acquisition #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:29
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RT @Marisa_C: I think @grahamstanley s blog on games based learning is a great place to look for materials for Ct #ELTchat
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:29
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Students develop questions to deepen their own understanding of the topic being studied. #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:29
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#ELTchat shouldn't we put students in situations where they don't know all the English so they use CT skills to understand?
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:29
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RT @shhartley: Dare I say, @ShellTerrell and @harrisonmike that course books are about 'teaching to the test'. #eltchat > i think it depends
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:29
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I think @grahamstanley s blog on games based learning is a great place to look for materials for Ct #ELTchat
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:29
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Showing how different one same news is shown on different TV or newspapers RT @naomishema: #eltchat - i didn'… (cont) http://deck.ly/~H03H8
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:29
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RE: @bcnpaul1 how does CT aid language learning? >>> "owning" the language, confidence dealing with issues/challenging expression #eltchat
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pysproblem81
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13/7/2011
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11:29
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@harrisonmike assessing learners ability to understand, but not express themselves always seems slightly sinister #eltchat
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shhartley
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13/7/2011
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11:29
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Dare I say, @ShellTerrell and @harrisonmike that course books are about 'teaching to the test'. #eltchat
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Dru_Step
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13/7/2011
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11:29
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#eltchat which leads to global, not personal thinking. It's the analytical rather than the statement.
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:29
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@naomishema Maybe through "what if.." questions? #eltchat
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:29
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@ayatawel #eltchat - some national tests are unseen passages with questions (many CT) kids don't study for them
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:30
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Students check their own work against a marking scheme so that they can internalize the characteristics of good work and reflect. #eltchat
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NoraTouparlaki
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13/7/2011
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11:30
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@ShellTerrell surive in an uncertain environment and try to find out things on their own! #ELTchat
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pysproblem81
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13/7/2011
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11:30
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RT @mcneilmahon: @pysproblem81: #eltchat - but how does CT aid language learning? > added processing of language involved in CT aids acquisition
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:30
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@theteacherjames gr8 IDEA #ELTCHAT
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fceblog
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13/7/2011
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11:30
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@bethcagnol For classroom management reasons, yes, they need to be told at the beginning. #ELTchat
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hoprea
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13/7/2011
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11:30
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RT @theteacherjames: The arts offer great opp to get sts to engage. Ask them to bring their favourite painting/film, & explain/justify why they like it. #ELTCHAT
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:30
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RT @theteacherjames: The arts offer great opp to get sts to engage. Ask them to bring their favourite painting/film, & explain/justify why they like it. #ELTCHAT
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pysproblem81
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13/7/2011
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11:30
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RT @mcneilmahon: @Fuertesun no, but you'll teach language 'better' if you include CT, it motivates, engages and helps acquisition #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:30
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The arts offer great opp to get sts to engage. Ask them to bring their favourite painting/film, & explain/justify why they like it. #ELTCHAT
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:30
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@Dru_Step yeah choosing the right questions and forming the correct sentences show a successful CT #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:30
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RT @akhssass: Students develop questions to deepen their own understanding of the topic being studied. #eltchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:30
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RT @bcnpaul1: always use a warmer w/adults & YLs - your day so far in smells/ colours / sounds etc. nice to get thought going in a different way #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:30
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RT @akhssass: Students develop questions to deepen their own understanding of the topic being studied. #eltchat > Yes!
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:30
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RT @brad5patterson: RE: @bcnpaul1 how does CT aid language learning? >>> "owning" the language, confidence dealing with issues/challenging expression #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:30
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@MarianSteiner OOps! LOL. #ELTCHAT
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:30
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RT @ShellTerrell: #ELTchat shouldn't we put students in situations where they don't know all the English so th… (cont) http://deck.ly/~UgHPt
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Collaborative
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13/7/2011
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11:30
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#eltchat Stop #teacher #cheating > Spell out how scoring results improve - #EU language levels http://ht.ly/5D9PW
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:31
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RT @theteacherjames: The arts offer great opp to get sts to engage. Ask them to bring their favourite painting/film, & explain/justify why they like it. #ELTCHAT
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:31
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@ShellTerrell yeah agree they will learn something #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:31
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@Marisa_C They go as far as apply and analyze, but not so much evaluate and create perhaps? #eltchat
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barbarabujtas
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13/7/2011
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11:31
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RT @hartle: Blooms taxonomy rebranded by Crathwell: Know, comprehend, apply, analyse, evaluate, create #eltchat
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:31
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RT @MarianSteiner: oops.. I almost wrote critical thinking kills ... :) #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:31
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@fceblog And I also think it's ethical to tell them what's expected in the beginning. #ELTCHAT
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:31
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RT @hartle: Bloom's taxonomy rebranded by Crathwell: Know, comprehend, apply, analyse, evaluate, create #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:31
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@bcnpaul1 Have used Global a bit, & I liked it. Very interesting approach. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:31
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@akhssass That's a good idea promoting a variety of decision making processes #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:31
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Bloom's taxonomy rebranded by Crathwell: Know, comprehend, apply, analyse, evaluate, create #eltchat
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vbenevolofranca
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13/7/2011
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11:31
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@ShellTerrell Not sure age matters. Children discover their own voices. When asked to draw, kids will represent things differently..#eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:31
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@fceblog Agreed! #ELTCHAT
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mkofab
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13/7/2011
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11:32
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@bcnpaul1 Thanks! #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:32
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RT @theteacherjames: The arts offer great opp to get sts to engage. Ask them to bring their favourite painting/film, & explain/justify why they like it. #ELTCHAT
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:32
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#eltchat one gripe here is that high-level students are required to NAME the skill they used to answer a question related to the literature
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:32
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RT @theteacherjames: The arts offer great opp to get sts to engage. Ask them to bring their favourite painting/film, & explain/justify why they like it. #ELTCHAT
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fceblog
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13/7/2011
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11:32
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@MarianSteiner My experience on culture of not questioning authority. http://t.co/V4F0KR4 #ELTchat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:32
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RT @mkofab: @theteacherjames Sorry, but what exactly is Global ? #eltchat > A CT coursebook
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vbenevolofranca
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13/7/2011
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11:32
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@clikman @Fuertesun Oh yes, political climate effects all aspects in classroom dynamics for sure! #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:32
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@mkofab it's a coursebook #eltchat
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:32
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RT @mkofab: @theteacherjames Sorry, but what exactly is Global ? #eltchat >was going to ask that too
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:32
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#ELTchat Improving comprehension, evaluating the language & choosing right way to express oneself requires a lot of CT
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:32
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RT @theteacherjames: @bcnpaul1 Have used Global a bit, & I liked it. Very interesting approach. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:32
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@mcneilmahon you mean YL's? #eltchat
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mkofab
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13/7/2011
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11:32
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@theteacherjames Sorry, but what exactly is Global ? #eltchat
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:32
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RT @bethcagnol: @fceblog And I also think it's ethical to tell them what's expected in the beginning. #ELTCHAT >>YES!
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:32
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RT @theteacherjames: @bcnpaul1 Have used Global a bit, & I liked it. Very interesting approach. #eltchat > I agree. It's subtly different
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:32
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RT @theteacherjames: The arts offer great opp to get sts to engage. Ask them to bring their favourite painting/film, & explain/justify why they like it. #ELTCHAT
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:33
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@PrettyButWise: @mcneilmahon @marisa_c we can ask them later to evaluate each others in the class and to suggest ideas #eltchat good idea!
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LindsayMaple
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13/7/2011
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11:33
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RT @naomishema: #eltchat debating issues is good. building the case for your point of view includes lots of skills
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:33
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I think ELT teachers have a harder job in countries where school does NOT promote CT #ELTchat - no wonder Ss want the T to answer all Qs
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eyespeakbrasil
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13/7/2011
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11:33
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Well, I guess CT is about giving students the tools and making them responsible and accountable #eltchat
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vbenevolofranca
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13/7/2011
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11:33
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RT @MarianSteiner: RT @ShellTerrell: does age matter? Different approaches? #eltchat > Yes, altho using games & fun to ease the stress w/ adults helped a lot
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:33
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@mcneilmahon @marisa_c we can ask them later to evaluate each others in the class and to suggest ideas #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:33
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@bcnpaul1 Yes on a CELTA course, SS like it, Teachers not so sure #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:34
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@ShellTerrell @theteacherjames strongly agree and any thing related to their life #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:34
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@lu_bodeman @mkofab Read about it here: http://bit.ly/nbcuvF #shamelessplug #eltchat
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NoraTouparlaki
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13/7/2011
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11:34
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RT @Marisa_C: I think ELT teachers have a harder job in countries where school does NOT promote CT #ELTchat … (cont) http://deck.ly/~vwMkG
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:34
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@Fuertesun how about finding solutions? #eltchat
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:34
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@Marisa_C That's right !! but a teacher has to fight for it , i believe !!#eltchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:34
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RT @Dru_Step: #eltchat As Adv teacher I spend my first term getting sts out of non-crit thnking methods. Get a lot of "Just give us the answer!!" begging!
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:34
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RT @brad5patterson: RT @Marisa_C @grahamstanley s blog on games based learning= great place to look for materials for Ct #ELTchat >>> agree. was reading it 2day
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:34
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@domi75P Thanks. It doesn't have to be complicated, it's just about provoking thoughts.@lu_bodeman #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:34
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CT involves asking questions,examining evidence, defining a problem, avoiding emotional reasoning, tolerating ambiguity..what else? #eltchat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:34
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@mcneilmahon Really? more than anything its a relief from English File!! #eltchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:34
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when challenging students, how far do you go? e.g. in Czech Rep, found lots of anti-Gypsy feelings - challenged them, but difficult #eltchat
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:34
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RT @Marisa_C @grahamstanley s blog on games based learning= great place to look for materials for Ct #ELTchat >>> agree. was reading it 2day
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Zwrzi
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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@eyespeakbrasil #eltchat And not only inside the classroom, but outside of it, as well!
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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we as teachers have to be clever enough to integrate CT into our courses and syllabus !!#eltchat
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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Isn't CT simply good education, be it in #efl #history #physics ? So we use it too in our field. #eltchat
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mkofab
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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@theteacherjames Ta for link #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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RT @MarianSteiner: RT @ShellTerrell: does age matter? Different approaches? #eltchat > Yes, altho using games & fun to ease the stress w/ adults helped a lot
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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RT @Fuertesun: @Marisa_C Yes... problem solving activities great for that... A baby is crying why? #eltchat
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barbarabujtas
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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apart from political environment and schools consumerism is also a factor concerning ct #eltchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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RT @Fuertesun: @mcneilmahon Yes but is it my job as an ELT teacher to teach CT skills to adults????? kind of feel duty bound with kids.. #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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@PrettyButWise @ShellTerrell Yes, they absolutely must care about it. #eltchat
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web2literacy
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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#eltchat hi all just come in here - is it critical thinking and language teaching tonight?
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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RT @Marisa_C: I think ELT teachers have a harder job in countries where school does NOT promote CT #ELTchat - no wonder Ss want the T to answer all Qs
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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@Marisa_C Yes... problem solving activities great for that... A baby is crying why? #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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RT @eyespeakbrasil: Well, I guess CT is about giving students the tools and making them responsible and accountable #eltchat
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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@theteacherjames Thanks! Will do. #eltchat
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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SS write Qs about anything they want more information about or that they are unclear about. T changes future teaching if needed. #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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RT @sandymillin: when challenging students, how far do you go? e.g. in Czech Rep, found lots of anti-Gypsy feelings - challenged them, but difficult #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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@fceblog Great post!! #ELTCHAT
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:35
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RT @Fuertesun: CT involves asking questions,examining evidence, defining a problem, avoiding emotional reasoning, tolerating ambiguity..what else? #eltchat
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barbarabujtas
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13/7/2011
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11:36
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RT @akhssass: some governments want SS to work like machines and keep doing tasks instead of thinking and deep learning. #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:36
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@sandymillin Great q... we are not crusaders we are paid to tech language......primarilyç #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:36
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RT @ayatawel: we as teachers have to be clever enough to integrate CT into our courses and syllabus !!#eltchat > that's what we're here for
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:36
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@naomishema Hm that's taking it a bit 2 far, I think. (re: naming the skill). #ELTCHAT That's like asking ESL students to name the tense.
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:36
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RT covers of novels tht ss chose as favourites to discuss wht the choice showed abt the person http://ow.ly/5DUEQ #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:36
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I always believed that CT can benefit from develping creating thinking as well - for flexibility and diversity od ideas & solutions #eltchat
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:36
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some governments want SS to work like machines and keep doing tasks instead of thinking and deep learning. #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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13/7/2011
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11:36
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RT @brad5patterson: Isn't CT simply good education, be it in #efl #history #physics ? So we use it too in our field. #eltchat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:36
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@eyespeakbrasil I'd certainly recommend looking at it and bringing it into yr teaching as a resource #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:36
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RT @sandymillin: when challenging students, how far do you go? e.g. in Czech Rep, found lots of anti-Gypsy feelings - challenged them, but difficult #eltchat
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NoraTouparlaki
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13/7/2011
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11:36
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RT @ayatawel: we as teachers have to be clever enough to integrate CT into our courses and syllabus !!#eltchat->Agree!!!
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fceblog
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13/7/2011
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11:36
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@bethcagnol No doubt. #ELTchat
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:36
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@mkofab #eltchat - can you explain about school consumerism?
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:36
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RT @brad5patterson: Isn't CT simply good education, be it in #efl #history #physics ? So we use it too in our field. #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:37
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Sorry but gotta get my nails done know #eltchat http://t.co/GMZ5YaP
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:37
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@bcnpaul1 I like the way Global gives credit to it's users. Treats them as mature intelligent adults. #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:37
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@web2literacy Hi Richard! Yup it is! #ELTCHAT
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:37
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@hartle Me too. But trying hard to stay up. :) #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:37
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@hartle you're critical thinking too much :) #eltchat
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:37
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RT @sandymillin: when challenging students, how far do you go? #eltchat > found myself in the same sit. we walk a very thin line somteimes
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Shaunwilden
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13/7/2011
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11:37
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@Fuertesun @sandymillin True but dont we have social responsibility as well? #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:37
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@Fuertesun expressing opinions and i mean personally opinion or asking for audiance opinions #eltchat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:37
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RT @Fuertesun: @sandymillin Great q... we are not crusaders we are paid to teach language......primarilyç #eltchat > yes but... :)
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:37
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RT @hartle: Discussion going too fast for me. Keep getting behind #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:37
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Discussion going too fast for me. Keep getting behind #eltchat
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:37
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@bethcagnol #eltchat - the naming bit is what's got teachers here in an uproar
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AtefAbdoo
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13/7/2011
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11:37
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@NoraTouparlaki @Marisa_C you mean where I live :) :) #eltchat
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NoraTouparlaki
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13/7/2011
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11:37
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@web2literacy yes, Richard, welcome:) #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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13/7/2011
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11:38
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@akhssass We'll put a transcript on our wiki #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:38
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@Shaunwilden YES.... but we can't force feed our ideas and opinions.. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:38
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k m@akhssass TWee #eltchat we put out a transcript
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:38
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RT @Marisa_C: I always believed that CT can benefit from develping creating thinking as well - for flexibility and diversity od ideas & solutions #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:38
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RT @mcneilmahon: @hartle you're critical thinking too much :) #eltchat dunno abt that tehe
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:38
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RT @fceblog: @ShellTerrell #eltchat Sometimes students expect a final word from the teacher. A right or wrong reduction. How to deal with that?
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Shaunwilden
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13/7/2011
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11:38
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RT @Marisa_C: My Tweetdeck is misbehaving - can't RT any more #ELTchat that needed to be retweeted to rub it in didnt it :-)
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:38
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I don t know how to copy all the chat and read it later #eltchat
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NoraTouparlaki
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13/7/2011
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11:38
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@AtefAbdoo too difficult, isn't it?? #eltchat
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:38
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RT @sandymillin: when challenging students, how far do you go? e.g. in Czech Rep, found lots of anti-Gypsy feelings - challenged them, but difficult #eltchat
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:38
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RT @mcneilmahon: RT @ayatawel: we as teachers have to be clever enough to integrate CT into our courses and syllabus !!#eltchat > that's what we're here for
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CoreyBelliveau
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13/7/2011
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11:38
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@mcneilmahon you explicitly teach the use of thinking strategies by applying them in a modeled lesson-part of a greater task #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:38
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My Tweetdeck is misbehaving - can't RT any more #ELTchat
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franklin_h
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13/7/2011
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11:39
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RT @fceblog: @ShellTerrell #eltchat Sometimes students expect a final word from the teacher. A right or wrong reduction. How to deal with that?
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:39
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Again, I'm sorry that I'm the only here from our school. This discussion is sooo impt. #eltchat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:39
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RT @Fuertesun: @bcnpaul1 YEs there's always a BUT:..................... #eltchat > that's critical thinkin' for ya :)
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LindsayMaple
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13/7/2011
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11:39
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RT @theteacherjames: The arts offer great opp to get sts to engage. Ask them to bring their favourite painting/film, & explain/justify why they like it. #ELTCHAT
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:39
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@naomishema I get so steamed when I see coursebooks asking students to "name that tense." #ELTCHAT
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vickyloras
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13/7/2011
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11:39
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Super!Rt @Marisa_C Always believed CT can benefit fr develping creating thinking as well-4flexibility&diversity od ideas&solutions #eltchat
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:39
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RT @web2literacy: #eltchat CT is developed in classrooms through our education - language learners who have had little school are marginalised by CT approach
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MTHS_DoPI
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13/7/2011
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11:39
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#eltchat Force students to "Create the Argument". Facts can be corrected, but let students create & defend arguments to end...then correct.
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:39
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@Shaunwilden @akhssass thanks #eltchat
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weemooseus
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13/7/2011
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11:39
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@Fuertesun reducing difficult problem into one we know how to solve, perhaps by reduction, embedding, transformation, or simulation #ELTchat
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web2literacy
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13/7/2011
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11:39
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#eltchat CT is developed in classrooms through our education - language learners who have had little school are marginalised by CT approach
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Shaunwilden
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13/7/2011
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11:39
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@Fuertesun No but we encourage debate but carefully #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:39
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@bcnpaul1 YEs there's always a BUT:..................... #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:39
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RT @Marisa_C: I always believed that CT can benefit from develping creating thinking as well - for flexibility and diversity od ideas & solutions #eltchat
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AtefAbdoo
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13/7/2011
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11:39
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@hartle me, too :( #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:40
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@Shaunwilden Debate is v important as long as people don't feel uncomfortable... #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:40
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@web2literacy everything in moderation - don't want to scare them off, slowly, slowly, #eltchat
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:40
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RT @Fuertesun @Shaunwilden YES.... but we can't force feed our ideas and opinions.. #eltchat >>> that's when they stop listening AND thinkin
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web2literacy
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13/7/2011
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11:40
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@mcneilmahon I would like to think so of course #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:40
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@ShellTerrell LOL! Shelly! For a minute there, I thought I was going to see a pic of Rosco's paws. #ELTCHAT
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:40
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Fuertesun No but we encourage debate but carefully #eltchat - YES ALWAYS
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:40
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RT @Fuertesun: CT involves asking questions,examining evidence, defining a problem, avoiding emotional reasoning, tolerating ambiguity..what else? #eltchat
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web2literacy
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13/7/2011
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11:40
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#eltchat not saying it's wrong or bad just that some learners lose out if it all gets CT
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:40
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RT @weemooseus: @Fuertesun reducing difficult problem into one we know how to solve, perhaps by reduction, embedding, transformation, or simulation #ELTchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:40
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@web2literacy or liberalised by improving their CT skills? #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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13/7/2011
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11:41
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@akhssass This is the wiki address http://bit.ly/qK2V9h you keep an eye on the #eltchat you'll see the link fo… (cont) http://deck.ly/~e7xVw
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web2literacy
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13/7/2011
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11:41
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#eltchat i@mcneilmahon agreed :)
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:41
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RT @Fuertesun: @Shaunwilden Debate is v important as long as people don't feel uncomfortable... #eltchat > got to be +ve and sensitive :)
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:41
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#eltchat twitter overload - and tweetdeck seize up #ELTchat - sorry can't tweet easily
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:41
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@lu_bodeman Maybe consider putting the summary in everyone's mail box at work. ;-) #ELTCHAT
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analuisalozano
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13/7/2011
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11:41
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#ELTchat One good way to develop critical thinking after practicing it in lessons is 2 involve our students on projects about global issues
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shhartley
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13/7/2011
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11:41
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Course books are often about 'teaching to the test'. Can sell more when focus is grades rather than critical thinking. #eltchat @bcnpaul1
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:41
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@ayatawel Am using it but it's moving way too fast. Exciting topic, huh? :) #eltchat
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:41
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A student provides a summary of what the whole class was expected to learn during a lesson and evaluate it. #eltchat
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NoraTouparlaki
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13/7/2011
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11:41
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RT @Shaunwilden: @Fuertesun No but we encourage debate but carefully #eltchat does this debate mean only criti… (cont) http://deck.ly/~8Uv2V
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:42
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RT @MarianSteiner: @sandymillin I try to put priority on general good mood. If challenging a st would mean conflict, I ease and back away #eltchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:42
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RT @CoreyBelliveau: we often use strat. from the critical think ing consortium #eltchat <what kind of things
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:42
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@shhartley Global will tell us if that's true #eltchat
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:42
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RT @fceblog: @MarianSteiner RT @sandymillin when challenging students, how far do you go? #eltchat -->Our job is about these important questions! #loveit
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:42
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@sandymillin I try to put priority on general good mood. If challenging a st would mean conflict, I ease and back away #eltchat
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eyespeakbrasil
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13/7/2011
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11:42
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Is CT a personal journey or a shared one #eltchat
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:42
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RT @Fuertesun: @brad5patterson Good point Brad.. too much debate could cause shut down for some SS #eltchat
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Dru_Step
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13/7/2011
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11:42
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#eltchat Debate in our staffroom today about 1one st and how he's unlikely to ever think critically... do you agree that could be the case?
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:42
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RT @shhartley: Course books about 'teaching to the test'. sell more when focus is grades not critical thinking. #eltchat >absolutely
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:42
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If we don't teach CT at a basic language level, we are all far too easily manipulated. Adverts gd source for this too #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:42
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@brad5patterson Good point Brad.. too much debate could cause shut down for some SS #eltchat
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fceblog
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13/7/2011
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11:42
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@MarianSteiner RT @sandymillin when challenging students, how far do you go? #eltchat -->Our job is about these important questions! #loveit
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:42
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@ShellTerrell Sorry to keep you! Nice nails, by the way! :-) #eltchat
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:43
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#eltchat @Fuertesun @bncpaul1 that's when we need to be moderators and keep our sensors out there. Interesting n challenging part of our job
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AxiomNews
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13/7/2011
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11:43
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Inquiry-based learning, cool! RT @akhssass Students develop questions to deepen their own understanding of the topic being studied. #eltchat
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web2literacy
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13/7/2011
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11:43
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RT @naomishema: #eltchat but think of the struggling learner who has to figure out what the question means, identify relevant part in text and THEN infer!
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:43
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@Dru_Step How old is the student? If he's 80 years old, then maybe. Under that, there's always hope. #ELTCHAT
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NoraTouparlaki
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13/7/2011
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11:43
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@eyespeakbrasil we learn about ourselves from ...others, it takes two #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:43
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CT practice for your teachers - read #eltchat summary and match to participants' hidden agendas :)
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:43
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RT @Fuertesun: @brad5patterson Good point Brad.. too much debate could cause shut down for some SS #eltchat >defo agree w/that
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:43
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@eyespeakbrasil nice question which is good topic for CT !!:) #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:43
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@MTHS_DoPI but sometimes u need to argue bcoz they r not active in CT as it's required #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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13/7/2011
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11:43
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@NoraTouparlaki Agreed, I think a lot of people initially think CT = criticism #eltchat
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:43
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#eltchat but think of the struggling learner who has to figure out what the question means, identify relevant part in text and THEN infer!
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:43
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@NoraTouparlaki not about criticim but about asking questions that may be uncomfortable to some people... #eltchat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:44
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@brad5patterson absolutely - balance is essential. It can't always be explicitly CT #eltchat
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fionamau
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13/7/2011
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11:44
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#eltchat Good evening. Sorry I'm late. Critical thinking, right?
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NoraTouparlaki
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13/7/2011
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11:44
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@Fuertesun so, that's why teachers should be critical thinkers! #eltchat
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:44
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RT @eyespeakbrasil: Is CT a personal journey or a shared one #eltchat
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analuisalozano
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13/7/2011
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11:44
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#ELTchat ..in which they can take active part to solve-problem situations interacting not only with their partners but with others.
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:44
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Groups of SS discuss what they have learned and what they still need to learn in a particular topic and reflect on their learning #eltchat
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barbarabujtas
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13/7/2011
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11:44
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RT @web2literacy: RT @NoraTouparlaki: @eyespeakbrasil we learn about ourselves from ...others, it takes two #eltchat
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:44
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:-) RT @bethcagnol: @Dru_Step How old is the student? If he's 80 years old, then maybe. Under that, there's always hope. #ELTCHAT
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:44
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RT @analuisalozano: #ELTchat Involve our students in projects about global issues > Odyssey2050 a good place to start
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:44
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RT @Fuertesun: @brad5patterson Good point Brad.. too much debate could cause shut down for some SS #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:44
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RT @mcneilmahon: CT practice for your teachers - read #eltchat summary and match to participants' hidden agendas :)
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:44
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@Dru_Step CT is a learned skill. It takes time. More time for some than others. #ELTCHAT
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:44
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Hell it should not be done so fast mybe needs training.RT @naomishema: #eltchat but think of the struggling le… (cont) http://deck.ly/~pY6K3
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web2literacy
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13/7/2011
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11:44
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RT @NoraTouparlaki: @eyespeakbrasil we learn about ourselves from ...others, it takes two #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:45
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RT @Shaunwilden: @vbenevolofranca I can't say I havent at times participated rather than facilitated :-) #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:45
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@Fuertesun 'Why?' should never be an uncomfortable question? #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:45
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@bcnpaul1 @Fuertesun @brad5patterson But CT doesn't only take place with serious subjects. You can keep it light to the same effect #eltchat
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web2literacy
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13/7/2011
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11:45
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#eltchat sometimes CT not necessary when they have already got it - sorry a bit obvious but so often overplayed in classrooms
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:45
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#eltchat @Dru_Step SS are different. Some won't open up in a large context, so we can divide 'em up and see if that S gets rolling.
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digitalspaces
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13/7/2011
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11:45
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RT @naomishema: #eltchat but think of the struggling learner who has to figure out what the question means, identify relevant part in text and THEN infer!
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:45
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@fionamau evening yes CT #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:45
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@naomishema those Ss can consider the pre reading as a helpful way to catch up with classroom CT with others #eltchat
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:45
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RT @bcnpaul1: @brad5patterson absolutely - balance is essential. It can't always be explicitly CT #eltchat
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vickyloras
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13/7/2011
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11:45
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RT @brad5patterson: #eltchat @Fuertesun @bncpaul1 that's when we need to be moderators and keep our sensors out there. Interesting n challenging part of our job
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:45
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RT @fionamau: #eltchat Good evening. Sorry I'm late. Critical thinking, right? > yup. what's on your mind?
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:45
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@fionamau yeah !!#eltchat
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:45
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@fionamau right #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:45
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RT @eyespeakbrasil: Is CT a personal journey or a shared one #eltchat probably both :-)
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:45
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RT @Shaunwilden: @vbenevolofranca I can't say I havent at times participated rather than facilitated :-) #eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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13/7/2011
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11:45
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@vbenevolofranca I can't say I havent at times participated rather than facilitated :-) #eltchat
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web2literacy
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13/7/2011
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11:46
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#eltchat for example sometimes too much elicitation going on - and too many teacher directed Qs to try to develop CT
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:46
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#eltchat but it is often a difficult one RT @mcneilmahon: @Fuertesun 'Why?' should never be an uncomfortable question?
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:46
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RT @Shaunwilden: @NoraTouparlaki I think a lot of people initially think CT = criticism #eltchat CT can be 'How to praise?''What's good?'
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:46
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@naomishema activities before Ss clap eyes on the text #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:46
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@fionamau yeah welcome dear #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:46
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@bcnpaul1 @Fuertesun @brad5patterson "Is this comedy sketch funny or not?" "Can this singer sing or not?" #eltchat
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:46
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@PrettyButWise #eltchat - what do you mean by pre reading? reading on their own?
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:46
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RT @mcneilmahon: @Fuertesun 'Why?' should never be an uncomfortable question? #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:46
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RT @naomishema: #eltchat but think of the struggling learner... But materials have to be graded to level and age
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:47
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@mcneilmahon God if that were true.... Why? can be soooo uncomfortable... depends on the question... and who's being asked #eltchat
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CoreyBelliveau
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13/7/2011
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11:47
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@naomishema this gets a little easier when we broaden text to include video and pictures #eltchat
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:47
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RT @bcnpaul1 @brad5patterson balance is essential... #eltchat > so true! we're trying to keep a lot of balls in the air when in class..
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:47
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@naomishema yeah the might read before the class and we can set a topic to give the the chance to improve their CT #eltchat
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vbenevolofranca
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13/7/2011
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11:47
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@Shaunwilden Hmm, tempting at times, once know group well can be way to stimulate discussion "devilΒ΄s advocate" but depends on grp #eltchat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:47
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RT @theteacherjames: @bcnpaul1 @Fuertesun @brad5patterson "Is the comedy sketch funny or not?" "Can this singer sing or not?" #eltchat >nice
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:47
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@web2literacy or they answer their own question #eltchat
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eyespeakbrasil
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13/7/2011
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11:47
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IΒ΄ve never thought of CT as criticism - more of a dialogue with oneslef #eltchat
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choberle
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13/7/2011
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11:47
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RT @Dru_Step: #eltchat As Adv teacher I spend my first term getting sts out of non-crit thnking methods. Get a lot of "Just give us the answer!!" begging!
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Shaunwilden
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13/7/2011
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11:47
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RT @bcnpaul1: RT @theteacherjames: CT doesn't only take place with serious subjects. You can keep it light to the same effect #eltchat > good point
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:47
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RT @fionamau: #eltchat Good evening. Sorry I'm late. Critical thinking, right? Hi Fiona, yes CT
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:47
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@web2literacy , but it shouldn't be too many or it will deviate from CT !!#eltchat
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Shaunwilden
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13/7/2011
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11:47
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@mcneilmahon Agreed #eltchat
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:47
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yes RT @web2literacy: #eltchat for example sometimes too much elicitation going on - and too many teacher directed Qs to try to develop CT
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fionamau
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13/7/2011
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11:47
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@bcnpaul1 that CT in the ELT classroom will largely depend on the rapport & interpersonal relationships in the room, #eltchat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:47
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RT @theteacherjames: CT doesn't only take place with serious subjects. You can keep it light to the same effect #eltchat > good point
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:48
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@bcnpaul1 Ta! #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:48
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Just had a thought. For sts who don't like to question, I sometimes show them the US site Rate My Professor.com #ELTCHAT
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Shaunwilden
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13/7/2011
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11:48
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@vbenevolofranca Oh yes very much so re group and also place of work, some places would never have let me #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:48
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RT @CoreyBelliveau: @naomishema this gets a little easier when we broaden text to include video and pictures #eltchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:48
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RT @Fuertesun: CT involves asking questions,examining evidence, defining a problem, avoiding emotional reasoning, tolerating ambiguity..what else? #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:48
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@naomishema they* them* #eltchat
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:48
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@web2literacy Yeah, right !!:) #eltchat
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:48
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RT @PrettyButWise: @naomishema yeah the might read before the class and we can set a topic to give the the chance to improve their CT #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:48
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Could we be more explicit to our Ss about what and why we are doing it in class #ELTchat - it should not be a secret I think
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:48
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RT @CoreyBelliveau: @naomishema this gets a little easier when we broaden text to include video and pictures #eltchat
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fionamau
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13/7/2011
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11:48
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RT @eyespeakbrasil: IΒ΄ve never thought of CT as criticism - more of a dialogue with oneslef #eltchat "dialectics" ;-)
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NoraTouparlaki
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13/7/2011
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11:48
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@mcneilmahon there's always sth good to discover #eltchat
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Ilotimo
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13/7/2011
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11:48
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RT @analuisalozano: #ELTchat One good way to develop critical thinking after practicing it in lessons is 2 involve our students on projects about global issues
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:48
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Reflection is also important part of lang learning, teach training and CT #eltchat
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web2literacy
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13/7/2011
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11:48
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@ayatawel OK but often happy to move away from CT - how about you? #eltchat
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GCSegers
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13/7/2011
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11:48
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RT @brad5patterson: RT @Marisa_C @grahamstanley s blog on games based learning= great place to look for materials for Ct #ELTchat >>> agree. was reading it 2day
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web2literacy
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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#eltchat as a language learner in class I often just want it on a plate so we can get on and talk - don't want to work it all out
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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RT @mcneilmahon: Putting SS in someone else's shoes is good CT training and extends speaking tasks #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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RT @mcneilmahon: Putting SS in someone else's shoes is good CT training and extends speaking tasks #eltchat
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Ilotimo
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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RT @analuisalozano: #ELTchat ..in which they can take active part to solve-problem situations interacting not only with their partners but with others.
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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RT @mcneilmahon: Reflection is also important part of lang learning, teach training and CT #eltchat
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digitalspaces
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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RT @Marisa_C: Here is a nice wiki with Blooms http://bit.ly/ZBHi9 #ELTchat :-)
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Shaunwilden
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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RT @Marisa_C: Could we be more explicit to our Ss about what and why we are doing it in class #ELTchat - it should not be a secret I think
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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RT @Marisa_C: Could we be more explicit to our Ss about what and why we are doing it in class #ELTchat - it should not be a secret I think
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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RT @Marisa_C: Could we be more explicit to our Ss about what and why we are doing it in class #ELTchat - it should not be a secret I think
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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RT @bethcagnol: Just had a thought. For sts who don't like to question, I sometimes show them the US site Rate My Professor.com #ELTCHAT
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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RT @mcneilmahon: Putting SS in someone else's shoes is good CT training and extends speaking tasks #eltchat
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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RT @bcnpaul1: looking at what CT is defined as, don't we all do it anyway - interwoven into every class? #eltchat
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mkofab
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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RT @MarianSteiner: @web2literacy True! when observing classes I can exactly tell when a T is pushing it too much. Pitty we can't see it on ourselves! #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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Putting SS in someone else's shoes is good CT training and extends speaking tasks #eltchat
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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RT @brad5patterson: @MarianSteiner haha. very true --- the attraction of our art for me... what next? what now ? what was that ! #eltchat
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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@web2literacy True! when observing classes I can exactly tell when a T is pushing it too much. Pitty we can't see it on ourselves! #eltchat
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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@MarianSteiner haha. very true --- the attraction of our art for me... what next? what now ? what was that ! #eltchat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:49
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looking at what CT is defined as, don't we all do it anyway - interwoven into every class? #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:50
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@Marisa_C agree and we can also set the topic for CT before the class so weak Ss can have their chance #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:50
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RT @bethcagnol: Just had a thought. For sts who don't like to question, I sometimes show them the US site Rate My Professor.com #ELTCHAT
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:50
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@fionamau @bcnpaul1 @theteacherjames @Fuertesun what was she saying wearing that meat dress, anyway? What do you think, SS ? LOL #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:50
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@Shaunwilden he he #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:50
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RT @Marisa_C: @mcneilmahon Edward de Bono's 6 thinking hats is good for this #eltchat Nice!
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Shaunwilden
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13/7/2011
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11:50
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@Marisa_C @mcneilmahon Oh gosh that takes me back to my school days #eltchat
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mkofab
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13/7/2011
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11:50
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RT @mcneilmahon: RT @bcnpaul1: looking at what CT is defined as, don't we all do it anyway - interwoven into every class? #eltchat do we go all the way tho?
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:50
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@mcneilmahon but that is lateral rather than critical thinking #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:50
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RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Marisa_C: Could we be more explicit to our Ss about what and why we are doing it in class #ELTchat - it should not be a secret I think
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:50
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RT @bcnpaul1: looking at what CT is defined as, don't we all do it anyway - interwoven into every class? #eltchat do we go all the way tho?
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eyespeakbrasil
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13/7/2011
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11:50
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@fionamau but dialectics requires two people doesnΒ΄t it? #eltchat
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:50
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RT @mcneilmahon: Putting SS in someone else's shoes is good CT training and extends speaking tasks #eltchat >> Agree!
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fionamau
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13/7/2011
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11:50
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@bcnpaul1@theteacherjames @Fuertesun @brad5patterson re "Can this singer sing or not?" #eltchat > U cd get a whole CT lesson out o Lady Gaga
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ShellTerrell
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13/7/2011
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11:50
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@mcneilmahon: Reflection is also important part of lang learning, teach training and CT #eltchat agree!
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:50
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@mcneilmahon Edward de Bono's 6 thinking hats is good for this #eltchat
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:50
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SS analyse the work of a peer over a period of time to provide feedback on what has improved and what still needs work. #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:51
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@MarianSteiner I show them the site to give them a window in a culture that is raised on CT and questioning the professor. #ELTCHAT
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:51
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RT @eyespeakbrasil: @fionamau but dialectics requires two people doesnΒ΄t it? #eltchat > you can have two people inside your head if u want
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:51
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RT @lu_bodeman: RT @mcneilmahon: Putting SS in someone else's shoes is good CT training and extends speaking tasks #eltchat >> Agree!
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:51
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@bcnpaul1 True - How often do we ask a question & then follow it with "Why"? if no explanation is forthcoming? I do it constantly. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:51
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RT @web2literacy: @MarianSteiner Ever watched a video of yourself teaching? This can help #eltchat > all the time
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:51
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RT @bcnpaul1: looking at what CT is defined as, don't we all do it anyway - interwoven into every class? #eltchat - YES think so!
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:51
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RT @Marisa_C: Could we be more explicit to our Ss about what and why we are doing it in class #ELTchat - it should not be a secret I think
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:51
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SS need to analyse knowledge synthesize it and make meaningful judgements and reflections on ideas and other peoples' opinions. #eltchat
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web2literacy
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13/7/2011
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11:51
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@MarianSteiner Ever watched a video of yourself teaching? This can help #eltchat
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eyespeakbrasil
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13/7/2011
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11:51
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Always answer a question with a question #eltchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:51
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@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C But, perhaps it's not wise 2 say: "OK everybody, today we're going to work on your CT skills! Yay!" #ELTCHAT
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:51
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@mcneilmahon what do you mean 'all the way'? #eltchat
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CoreyBelliveau
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13/7/2011
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11:51
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@sandymillin our tasks include things like reworking the ending of stories or decoding a photo. We use graphic org to sort thinking #eltchat
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:51
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RT @ ShellTerrell RT @bethcagnol: For sts who don't like to question, I show them the US site Rate My Professor.com #eltchat > interesting!
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:51
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Of course std beliefs very strong too, & it csn be challenging for them to question these. #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:52
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Roleplay is useful too. Get the sts to adopt other people's opinions and argue for them. Great practice. #ELTchat
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web2literacy
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13/7/2011
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11:52
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@MarianSteiner agreed - not a pleasant experience :) #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:52
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RT @eyespeakbrasil: Always answer a question with a question #eltchat
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vbenevolofranca
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13/7/2011
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11:52
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RT @Marisa_C: @mcneilmahon Edward de Bono's 6 thinking hats is good for this #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:52
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RT @bethcagnol: @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C But, perhaps it's not wise 2 say: "OK everybody, today we're going to work on your CT skills! Yay!" #ELTCHAT
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:52
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Very few coursbooks include Question types to promote CT - it's all fact finding and may be a bit of underlining at best #ELTchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:52
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @web2literacy: @MarianSteiner Ever watched a video of yourself teaching? This can help #eltchat > all the time, yes agree
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:52
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RT @mcneilmahon: RT @eyespeakbrasil: @fionamau but dialectics requires two people doesnΒ΄t it? #eltchat > you can have two people inside your head if u want
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eyespeakbrasil
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13/7/2011
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11:52
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@mcneilmahon iΒ΄ve got many people chatting away in my hea[d #eltchat lol
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:52
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RT @Marisa_C: RT @web2literacy: @MarianSteiner Ever watched a video of yourself teaching? This can help #eltchat > YES! [whimpers]
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:52
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RT @theteacherjames: @bcnpaul1 True - How often do we ask a question & then follow it with "Why"? if no explanation is forthcoming? I do it constantly. #eltchat
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fionamau
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13/7/2011
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11:52
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@brad5patterson what was she saying wearing that meat dress #eltchat>Exactly, but some 'frivolous issues' do uncover more serious ones
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web2literacy
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13/7/2011
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11:52
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@Marisa_C Do you use this a lot with teacher trainees to get them thinking critically about their own teaching? #eltchat
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drjohnhadley
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13/7/2011
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11:52
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RT @Marisa_C: Could we be more explicit to our Ss about what and why we are doing it in class #ELTchat - it should not be a secret I think
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vbenevolofranca
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13/7/2011
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11:52
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@Marisa_C Yes, need to be. Sometimes sts said: tell me what's the right answer....but then needed to explain the why of things #eltchat
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fionamau
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13/7/2011
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11:53
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RT @theteacherjames Get the sts to adopt other people's opinions & argue 4 them. Great practice. #ELTchat overcomes 'I have no opinion' too
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:53
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#eltchat - maybe you all should get hold of israeli textbooks for literature - the ct skills are built in now! LOL!
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:53
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@bcnpaul1 to evaluating and creating (which is not same as applying)... #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:53
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@bcnpaul1 I have or I rewrite it #ELTchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:53
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RT @Marisa_C: Very few coursbooks include Question types to promote CT #ELTchat One more problem with coursebooks
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:53
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@Marisa_C open questions are good for CT right? #ELTchat
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bethcagnol
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13/7/2011
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11:53
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Off to bed, guys. Been a great #ELTCHAT! Thanks to the moderators @Marisa_C and @ShellTerrell Bonne nuit! And Happy 14th of July tomorrow!
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:53
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RT @Marisa_C: few coursbooks include Q types to promote CT - it's fact finding and may be a bit of underlining #ELTchat >so ditch the bk:)
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:53
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RT @theteacherjames: Roleplay is useful too. Get the sts to adopt other people's opinions and argue for them. Great practice. #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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13/7/2011
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11:53
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Critical Thinking Skills: Developing Effective Analysis and Argument (Palgrave Study Skills) #ELTCHAT
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:53
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RT @theteacherjames: Roleplay is useful too. Get the sts to adopt other people's opinions and argue for them. Great practice. #ELTchat
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Shaunwilden
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13/7/2011
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11:53
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@bethcagnol Oh def not but we can embed the idea in activities #eltchat I found activities in this book adapted well to the EFL classroom
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:53
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RT @Marisa_C: Very few coursbooks include Question types to promote CT - it's all fact finding and may be a bit of underlining at best #ELTchat
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:54
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@mcneilmahon ok - I see. No I guess we don't go all the way always, but do we need to always? #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:54
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@bethcagnol night... or Bon nuit #ELTCHAT
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:54
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RT @eyespeakbrasil: Always answer a question with a question #eltchat > can become very frustrating - the Q has to be justified
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:54
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So what do you do when students balk, n aren't jumping into the CT part of the lesson. How do you "gettem' out of their shells" ? #eltchat
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:54
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@bcnpaul1 Wish we could. Syllabus is built on it, for tests. :( It's a tough issue @ our school, still! #eltchat
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Notyetlanguage
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13/7/2011
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11:54
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RT @MarianSteiner: RT @ ShellTerrell RT @bethcagnol: For sts who don't like to question, I show them the US site Rate My Professor.com #eltchat > interesting!
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:54
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RT @fionamau: RT @theteacherjames Get the sts to adopt other people's opinions & argue 4 them. Great practice. #ELTchat overcomes 'I have no opinion' too
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:54
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@bethcagnol Bye !! Good night !! #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:54
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@brad5patterson Love the meat dress question! #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:55
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@fionamau @brad5patterson And dare you ask: "Is she beautiful?" #eltchat
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:55
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So, how about pointing the camera on the learner to boost CT? The hard core way :) @web2literacy #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:55
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@vbenevolofranca No I don't mean it like big announcement time - just e.g."this activity now aims to.... and to..." #Eltchat
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fionamau
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13/7/2011
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11:55
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RT @theteacherjames: @brad5patterson Love the meat dress question! #eltchat > and the cigarette sunglasses. and the image over singing = $$
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:56
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@Dru_Step @bcnpaul1 Sounds fantastic! #ELTchat
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fionamau
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13/7/2011
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11:56
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RT @theteacherjames @brad5patterson And dare you ask: "Is she beautiful?" #eltchat U dare, cuz she isn't, which is good. Mould-breaking > CT
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Fuertesun
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13/7/2011
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11:56
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@bcnpaul1 Can't include all Higher thinking skills and lower thinking skills and CT in all lessons can we? #eltchat
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:56
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RT @Shaunwilden: Critical Thinking Skills: Developing Effective Analysis and Argument (Palgrave Study Skills) #ELTCHAT
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:56
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RT @lu_bodeman: RT @theteacherjames: @fionamau @brad5patterson And dare you ask: "Is she beautiful?" #eltchat LOL
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:56
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@vbenevolofranca Right! #eltchat
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web2literacy
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13/7/2011
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11:56
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@MarianSteiner the students pointing the cameras at each other :) #eltchat
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:56
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RT @theteacherjames Roleplay is useful too. Get the sts to adopt other people's opinions n argue for them. Great practice. #ELTchat >>> β¤ it
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:56
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RT @theteacherjames: @fionamau @brad5patterson And dare you ask: "Is she beautiful?" #eltchat LOL
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vbenevolofranca
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13/7/2011
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11:56
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@Marisa_C Yes, exactly, as we normally do when setting up any other activity #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:57
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RT @Fuertesun: @bcnpaul1 Can't include all ..in all lessons can we? #eltchat Of course we can, we're super heroes !!
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brad5patterson
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13/7/2011
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11:57
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RE @fionamau @theteacherjames Lady Gaga menos attractive = mould breaking. >>>> Good point ! #eltchat
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web2literacy
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13/7/2011
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11:57
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@MarianSteiner sts making the own films, creating blogs, making posters etc are all great critical processes of enagement #eltchat
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:57
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RT @akhssass: Reduce the number of questions that can be answered by only "yes" or "no." Ask questions appropriate to the developmental level.
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:57
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RT @Dru_Step: @theteacherjames By the end of the year my sts know that a 'why' is coming from me & start asking each other #ELTchat
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:57
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CT is a higher level of L2 practicing #eltchat
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eyespeakbrasil
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13/7/2011
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11:57
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developing the self confidence to think critically would be very difficult in some cultures, thinking of Asian students #eltchat
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domi75P
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13/7/2011
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11:57
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#eltchat bonne nuit but why in French ? Do you think French poeple go to bed early or that they are not inter… (cont) http://deck.ly/~5UTgv
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:57
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Reduce the number of questions that can be answered by only "yes" or "no." Ask questions appropriate to the developmental level.
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bcnpaul1
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13/7/2011
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11:58
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RT @theteacherjames: @fionamau @brad5patterson Says you! I'm sure there are those that disagree... #eltchat she's lovely :)
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Marisa_C
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13/7/2011
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11:58
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@domi75P cos we sometimes say bonne nuit without raising a fuss about the French - dont' be so sensitive we say it greek too #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:58
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RT @web2literacy: @MarianSteiner sts making the own films, creating blogs, making posters etc are all great critical processes of enagement #eltchat
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lu_bodeman
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13/7/2011
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11:58
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RT @ayatawel: We have to appreciate all answers to motivate them to develop more CT !!#eltchat
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akhssass
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13/7/2011
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11:58
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Talk less and ask more #eltchat
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eyespeakbrasil
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13/7/2011
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11:58
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RT @ayatawel: We have to appreciate all answers to motivate them to develop more CT !!#eltchat
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:58
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We have to appreciate all answers to motivate them to develop more CT !!#eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:58
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@fionamau @brad5patterson Says you! I'm sure there are those that disagree... #eltchat
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eyespeakbrasil
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13/7/2011
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11:58
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RT @web2literacy: @MarianSteiner sts making the own films, creating blogs, making posters etc are all great critical processes of enagement #eltchat
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ayatawel
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13/7/2011
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11:59
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@mcneilmahon That's our role to help, encourage and appreciate , even the least !!#eltchat
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MarianSteiner
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13/7/2011
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11:59
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RT @web2literacy: sts making own films,blogs,posters etc are all great critical processes of enagement #eltchat > The circle is complete! :)
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PrettyButWise
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13/7/2011
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11:59
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i'm sleepy ;p nice chat but can't focus loool c u next Wed all , thank u for chating #eltchat
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mkofab
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13/7/2011
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11:59
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@akhssass and for me: listen more, have more patience... I know but difficult ... #eltchat
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hartle
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13/7/2011
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11:59
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RT @mcneilmahon: But remember students need the language to express their CT or you may get met with awkward silence - develop both hand in hand #eltchat
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theteacherjames
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13/7/2011
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11:59
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Each to their own Paul! ;-) @bcnpaul1 @fionamau @brad5patterson #eltchat
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naomishema
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13/7/2011
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11:59
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RT @mcneilmahon: But remember students need the language to express their CT or you may get met with awkward silence - develop both hand in hand #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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13/7/2011
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11:59
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But remember students need the language to express their CT or you may get met with awkward silence - develop both hand in hand #eltchat
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sandymillin
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13/7/2011
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11:59
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RT @Marisa_C: Could we be more explicit to our Ss about what and why we are doing it in class #ELTchat - it should not be a secret I think
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lu_bodeman
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14/7/2011
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12:00
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Also leaving. Dinner time. Again, a wonderful #eltchat. Will check out summary later. Congrats to the moderators + thanks!!
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naomishema
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14/7/2011
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12:00
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#eltchat Good night all - very fast paced chat this time!
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bcnpaul1
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14/7/2011
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12:00
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Enjoyed that a lot #eltchat Thanks @marisa_c @shellterrell for moderation. g'night all
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brad5patterson
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14/7/2011
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12:00
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@bcnpaul1 @theteacherjames @fionamau we oui. ζƒ…δΊΊηΌι‡ε‡Ίθ¥Ώζ–½οΌοΌοΌ lovers see the most beautifully >>> fav chinese expression LOL #eltchat
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ayatawel
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14/7/2011
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12:00
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@web2literacy bye !! Good night !! #eltchat
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hartle
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14/7/2011
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12:00
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These location maps of where everyone is r distracting me!! But it's interesting to see such variety too #eltchat
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akhssass
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14/7/2011
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12:00
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Increase wait-time between asking and answering questions to at least five seconds. give them time to think. #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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14/7/2011
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12:00
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@web2literacy night #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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14/7/2011
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12:00
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@MarianSteiner I like those ideas #eltchat
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analuisalozano
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14/7/2011
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12:00
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@mcneilmahon #ELTchat ... Maybe it sounds impossible but you will know how meaningful learning becomes after doing it-CT goes to its maximum
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NoraTouparlaki
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14/7/2011
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12:00
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RT @ayatawel: We have to appreciate all answers to motivate them to develop more CT !!#eltchat
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web2literacy
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14/7/2011
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12:00
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bye bye all thanks for the chat - interesting as always #eltchat
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akhssass
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14/7/2011
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12:01
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@Marisa_C @akhssass great idea #eltchat
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Notyetlanguage
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14/7/2011
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12:01
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@domi75P French is cool - it also helps you to expand your vocabulary in English as well as to spell English better :D #ELTchat
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Fuertesun
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14/7/2011
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12:01
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@bcnpaul1 Night Paul.... #eltchat
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barbarabujtas
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14/7/2011
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12:01
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thx all, good night
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mcneilmahon
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14/7/2011
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12:01
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@analuisalozano not impossible at all - a very worthy goal and yes, makes learning more meaningful #eltchat
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KellyMNixon
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14/7/2011
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12:01
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#css510 A smorgasbord... #ELTchat
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Marisa_C
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14/7/2011
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12:01
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@bcnpaul1 cheers Paul good to have you on #eltchat always
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hartle
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14/7/2011
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12:01
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RT @brad5patterson: @bcnpaul1 @theteacherjames @fionamau we oui. ζƒ…δΊΊηΌι‡ε‡Ίθ¥Ώζ–½οΌοΌοΌ lovers see the most beautifully >>> fav chinese expression LOL #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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14/7/2011
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12:01
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RT @bcnpaul1: Enjoyed that a lot #eltchat Thanks @marisa_c @shellterrell for moderation. g'night all
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lu_bodeman
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14/7/2011
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12:01
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RT @naomishema: #eltchat Good night all - very fast paced chat this time!
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Marisa_C
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14/7/2011
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12:01
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@akhssass Increase discussion time in the classroom too - many Ts cannot conduct a good discussion or just butt in and tell all #eltchat
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ayatawel
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14/7/2011
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12:01
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@bcnpaul1 Good night !!#eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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14/7/2011
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12:02
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RT @Marisa_C: Increase discussion in the classroom - many Ts cannot conduct a good discussion or just butt in and tell all #eltchat > agree
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Marisa_C
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14/7/2011
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12:02
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@eyespeakbrasil Goodnight - thanks for joining #eltchat
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barbarabujtas
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14/7/2011
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12:02
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@Marisa_C :) #eltchat
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eyespeakbrasil
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14/7/2011
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12:02
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Thanks all - goodnight #eltchat
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MarianSteiner
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14/7/2011
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12:02
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RT @brad5patterson: #eltchat Thanks moderators and chatters. Good fun, and nice to connect with passionate teachers !!! > What he said ;)
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Marisa_C
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14/7/2011
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12:02
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@Dru_Step Bonne Nuit !!! Kalinichtaq #eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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14/7/2011
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12:02
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RT @bcnpaul1: Enjoyed that a lot #eltchat Thanks @marisa_c @shellterrell for moderation. g'night all > Me too, thanks all
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Dru_Step
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14/7/2011
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12:02
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#eltchat I'm off too. Actually found this easier without Tweetdeck. It's very insistent and nagging! Night all.
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Marisa_C
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14/7/2011
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12:02
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@barbarabujtas thanks for joining #eltchat
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brad5patterson
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14/7/2011
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12:02
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1st late night #eltchat Thanks moderators and chatters. Good fun, and nice to connect with passionate teachers !!! cheers, b
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Fuertesun
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14/7/2011
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12:03
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@hartle Night #eltchat
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hartle
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14/7/2011
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12:03
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RT @hartle: Yes, thnx from me too. Have to go but it was as good as ever, Good night everyone. #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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14/7/2011
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12:03
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@mcneilmahon Thanks for joining - and kind comments #eltchat
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akhssass
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14/7/2011
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12:03
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Encourage SS to generate new ideas, products, or ways of viewing things. Not just understanding content in books. #eltchat
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ayatawel
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14/7/2011
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12:03
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RT @mcneilmahon: RT @Marisa_C: Increase discussion in the classroom - many Ts cannot conduct a good discussion or just butt in and tell all #eltchat > agree
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Marisa_C
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14/7/2011
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12:04
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Thank you all for joining #ELTchat and thx to my co moderators @#Shellterrell and @Shaunwilden for great moderation !
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NoraTouparlaki
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14/7/2011
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12:04
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#ELTCHat Goodnight to all of you! thanks for everything!
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mcneilmahon
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14/7/2011
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12:04
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RT @Marisa_C: @mcneilmahon Thanks for joining - and kind comments #eltchat > you're welcome, thanks for great moderating
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Fuertesun
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14/7/2011
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12:04
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@Marisa_C Night and thanks #eltchat
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Fuertesun
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14/7/2011
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12:05
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@Marisa_C Thank you ..... night #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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14/7/2011
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12:05
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@akhssass me #eltchat
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akhssass
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14/7/2011
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12:05
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who is familiar with Bono’s Six Thinking Hats? #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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14/7/2011
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12:05
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@Fuertesun Cheers LEahn :-) nice pic #eltchat
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ayatawel
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14/7/2011
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12:05
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@Marisa_C Thank u soo much and thanks for mods @shaunwilden and @shellyterrell !!#eltchat
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mcneilmahon
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14/7/2011
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12:05
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That was fast and furious - looking forward to the summary to catch up with missed threads and have a think about them :) #eltchat
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Marisa_C
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14/7/2011
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12:05
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Sorry I disappeared for a bit but had trouble with tweetdeck - could barely type anything #Eltchat
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MarianSteiner
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14/7/2011
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12:05
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RT @Marisa_C: Thank you all for joining #ELTchat and thx to my co moderators @#Shellterrell and @Shaunwilden for great moderation !
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cherrymp
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13/7/2011
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12:05
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'Striving for good #English' in #malaysia http://bit.ly/ojloZZ #eltchat #efl #tefl #teachingenglish
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theteacherjames
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14/7/2011
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12:06
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Thanks to mods @marisa_c @shellterrell for a great #eltchat, one of the best in ages. I love that subject.
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mcneilmahon
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14/7/2011
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12:06
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RT @akhssass: Increase wait-time between asking and answering questions to at least five seconds. give them time to think. #eltchat
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mkofab
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14/7/2011
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12:06
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Thanks moderators and all teachers for inspiration, fun and some serious CT! Good night. Phew, that went fast again! :-) #eltchat
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Notyetlanguage
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14/7/2011
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12:06
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Bonne nuit! Good night! Laku noΔ‡! (Croatian) καληνΟχτα.. interesting #ELTchat on CT... sorry I couldn't join earlier :(
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Marisa_C
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14/7/2011
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12:06
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@ayatawel Hey thanks for joining :-) #eltchat
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cherrymp
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13/7/2011
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12:06
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#English-language digital library to feature works of 'father of #manga' frm #japan http://bit.ly/nGWX87 #eltchat #efl #tefl #edtech
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akhssass
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14/7/2011
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12:07
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@hartle @akhssass thanks
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Marisa_C
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14/7/2011
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12:07
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Good night all - will put up transcript later on the wiki if you want to peruse this fast and furious #ELTchat !!!!!!
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hartle
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14/7/2011
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12:07
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RT @akhssass: who is familiar with Bono’s Six Thinking Hats? #eltchat http://ow.ly/1uAjVv
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akhssass
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14/7/2011
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12:07
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just google it #eltchat
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ayatawel
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14/7/2011
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12:07
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Thank u all !! See u next week !! very nice chat and a typical practical CT chat !! #eltchat
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fceblog
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14/7/2011
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12:07
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Thank you all. #ELTchat @Marisa_C @eyespeakbrasil @MarianSteiner @DrJohnHadley @BethCagnol @Lu_bodeman
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sandymillin
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14/7/2011
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12:09
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#eltpics is #ing this week...eating, chatting, thinking...whatever you like! 59 so far: http://bit.ly/pm6lxi Can you add more? #eltchat #efl
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cerirhiannon
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14/7/2011
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12:10
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#eltchat finally made it to my computer - so sad to have missed the eltchat - and all u chatters - will be following u on the transcript
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analuisalozano
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14/7/2011
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12:10
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@mcneilmahon #ELTchat ... They best learn by doing things and by thinking what they do is worth for themselves and others :)
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vickyloras
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14/7/2011
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12:10
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RT @theteacherjames: Thanks to mods @marisa_c @shellterrell for a great #eltchat, one of the best in ages. I love that subject.
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sandymillin
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14/7/2011
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12:10
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#infiniteeltideas is quizlet this week: http://bit.ly/nJjsXg How would you use it? Waiting for 1st idea! #eltchat #efl #esl #esolΒ #elt #tefl
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fceblog
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14/7/2011
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12:10
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RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Marisa_C: Could we be more explicit to our Ss about what and why we are doing it in class #ELTchat - it should not be a secret I think
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theteacherjames
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14/7/2011
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12:11
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@cerirhiannon That's a shame, tonight's was a cracker. Next time, eh? :-) #eltchat
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vbenevolofranca
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14/7/2011
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12:11
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Thanks to all #eltchat moderators. Tweetdeck went all funny on me & found it difficult to type at times!
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vickyloras
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14/7/2011
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12:12
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RT @sandymillin: #eltpics is #ing this week...eating, chatting, thinking...whatever you like! 59 so far: http://bit.ly/pm6lxi Can you add more? #eltchat #efl
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akhssass
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14/7/2011
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12:12
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Teachers should create an atmosphere of trust and encourage HOTS questions. I mean a stree-free atmosphere. #eltchat
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