| username |
time |
status |
| hoprea |
11:00 |
Hi there, #ELTChat folks!! It's been a long while... :) |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:00 |
RT @Marisa_C: Are you ready to CLT? #ELTchat |
| lu_bodeman |
11:00 |
RT @analuisalozano: RT @Marisa_C: Who would like to talk about the Communicative Approach? #ELTchat on in about FIVE MINUTES!!!! |
| PrettyButWise |
11:01 |
RT @Marisa_C: Are you ready to CLT? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:01 |
@Shaunwilden and moi are here to moderate and help you if you are new to #ELTchat |
| hoprea |
11:01 |
RT @Marisa_C: Welcome to #ELTchat - for the next hour my tweets will be about Communitactive Language Teaching - Join in and bring a friend!!! #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:01 |
Welcome to #ELTchat - for the next hour my tweets will be about Communitactive Language Teaching - Join in and bring a friend!!! #ELTchat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:01 |
ready for #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:02 |
@bethcagnol Hi Bethany - good to see you #ELTCHAT |
| Zwrzi |
11:02 |
@onetooneteacher Maybe "Grammar Is Important After All" came back because the neighbouring teachers couldn't stand the noise! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:02 |
@hoprea Hello there! #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:02 |
@uniquelanguages Oh come on multi task :-) #eltchat |
| lu_bodeman |
11:02 |
RT @Marisa_C: Welcomt to #ELTchat - for the next hour my tweets will be about Communitactive Language Teaching - Join in and bring a friend!!! #ELTchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:02 |
RT @Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden and moi are here to moderate and help you if you are new to #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:02 |
RT @SueAnnan: Evening everyone. hello from Jersey #eltchat |
| uniquelanguages |
11:02 |
And now it's on at the same time as The Apprentice! #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:02 |
@ericbaber British or American Apprentice. How about multitasking and joining us on #ELTCHAT while ironing? |
| esuarezguillen |
11:02 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: Do you use humour in the classroom? http://oxford.ly/naL7Kl from @MrWriteCzech #english #teaching #efl #eltchat #skills |
| web2literacy |
11:03 |
#eltchat Hi everybody |
| onetooneteacher |
11:03 |
@Zwrzi Excellent point yes - it was all just too noisy! #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:03 |
For the next hour, my tweets will be devoted to #ELTCHAT. If I fill up your twitter feed then you're not following enough people! ;) |
| Marisa_C |
11:03 |
@eannegrenoble Bon soir ma chere #ELTCHAT |
| eannegrenoble |
11:03 |
RT @Marisa_C: @bethcagnol Hi Bethany - good to see you #ELTCHAT Hi to all |
| Marisa_C |
11:03 |
@CeciELT What? No caipirinias or sth like that? #ELTChat |
| linguaprof |
11:04 |
The PP slides of my #esl teacher training on #CLT based on 4 books, starting some short video trainings soon #ELTchat http://see.sc/ctA1AD |
| sandymillin |
11:04 |
RT @Shaunwilden: #eltchat 21.00 BST Communicative approach“ What does it mean and how to apply it? |
| Marisa_C |
11:04 |
So - who is the guilty party? Who asked this question? Show yourself quick! #ELtchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:04 |
@Marisa_C Bonsoir ma cherie. #ELTCHAT Any chance I can convince you to do an #ELTCHAT in Paris? :-) |
| Shaunwilden |
11:04 |
@harrisonmike Communicative approach“ What does it mean and how to apply it? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:04 |
@web2literacy Hello! Welcome - good to see you #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:04 |
@web2literacy Hey the summary writer is here :-) #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:04 |
What's the #eltchat this evening? |
| bethcagnol |
11:04 |
@eannegrenoble Salut Elizabeth! #ELTCHAT |
| hoprea |
11:04 |
RT @bethcagnol: For the next hour, my tweets will be devoted to #ELTCHAT. If I fill up your twitter feed then you're not following enough people! ;) |
| antoniaclare |
11:05 |
#eltchat hi everyone (kids in bed, husband fishing, glass of wine, couscous, salad - I'm ready!) ... |
| Marisa_C |
11:05 |
@harrisonmike Have the videos Mike - will be a speial treat for you #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:05 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @harrisonmike Communicative approach" What does it mean and how to apply it? #eltchat any difference with Dogme ? |
| bethcagnol |
11:05 |
@Shaunwilden @marisa_C isn't it something about Communicative Approach? #ELTCHAT |
| mkofab |
11:05 |
Anyone here who is young enough to be taught L2 with the communicative approach? #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:05 |
@Marisa_C i'm ready and happy to join u i love communicative approach but have something to say about since it's applied in Kwt #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:05 |
@Marisa_C Not me, but interested as I just got Larsen-Freeman in the post #eltchat can't wait to read it |
| SueAnnan |
11:05 |
RT @Marisa_C: So - who is the guilty party? Who asked this question? Show yourself quick! #ELtchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:05 |
@bethcagnol I promise to run one for you - #ELTCHAT #ELTCHAT |
| antoniaclare |
11:06 |
#eltchat I think Dogme is an attempt to get people to try and take the Com Ap seriously, and communicate! |
| sandymillin |
11:06 |
RT @Marisa_C: Are you ready to CLT? #ELTchat yes! |
| Shaunwilden |
11:06 |
The person who proposed it was Natasha Juraich (Notyetlanguage) #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:06 |
@harrisonmike communicative approach #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
11:06 |
@harrisonmike Larsen Freeman is cool. You can find her vids ( to go with book) on youtube #eltchat |
| linguaprof |
11:06 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @harrisonmike Communicative approach – What does it mean and how to apply it? #eltchat |
| hoprea |
11:07 |
#ELTChat Are we going to talk about the differences between strong and weak versions of CLT? |
| Shaunwilden |
11:07 |
@Marisa_C Dunno i went to the blog to see who posted it #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:07 |
#eltchat I think ESOL in the UK is prtty much founded in principles of Communicative approaches, after all sts need to communicate! #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:07 |
#eltchat rather than focus on the form of language for tests |
| Shaunwilden |
11:07 |
7 mins in and someone mentioned dogme ! #eltchat |
| hoprea |
11:07 |
@eannegrenoble @Shaunwilden @harrisonmike IMO, the problem when diff between Dogme & others is the definition of approach #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
11:07 |
IS Natasha here ? @Shaunwilden #eltchat |
| mkofab |
11:08 |
@web2literacy Yes, Flanders(Belgium- does. #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:08 |
IMHO #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:08 |
@Marisa_C Was bound to happen, we're going to start a sweepstake for future chats :-) #eltchat |
| sarah_SKB |
11:08 |
am curious what the OPP of communicative approach is...!! #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:08 |
@Shaunwilden what does it mean dogme ?? I don't know it's meaning ! #eltchat |
| hoprea |
11:08 |
@Marisa_C LOL... I agree, Marisa! A lot more to say about CLT without having to mention Dogme.. #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:08 |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C s'not in the rules of the game to call for proposer to stand up #eltchat |
| web2literacy |
11:08 |
#eltchat does the country you teach English in follow a communicative approach as accepted practice? |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:08 |
RT @harrisonmike: #eltchat I think ESOL in the UK is prtty much founded in principles of Communicative approaches, after all sts need to communicate! #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:08 |
@antoniaclare Hi Antonia! Gillian here in Paris says hi, by the way! #ELTCHAT |
| bethcagnol |
11:08 |
RT @harrisonmike: @Marisa_C Not me, but interested as I just got Larsen-Freeman in the post #eltchat can't wait to read it |
| Marisa_C |
11:08 |
@hoprea @Shaunwilden #ELTChat I was hoping dogme would not rear its head in this chat again - sorry to al dogmeists #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:08 |
#eltchat Approach vs ..? |
| sandymillin |
11:09 |
@SueAnnan Do you have a link for the Larsen-Freeman videos? #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:09 |
RT @harrisonmike: #eltchat ESOL in UK is prtty much founded in principles of Communicative apprches, after all sts need 2 communicate! |
| lu_bodeman |
11:09 |
there's a lot of hullabaloo abt CLT...some ppl think it's all about raising STT only #eltchat |
| web2literacy |
11:09 |
@mkofab Is that the case in the school system as well as private / EFL schools? #eltchat |
| onetooneteacher |
11:09 |
CA = basic common sense - what's the alternative? uncommunicative approach? #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:09 |
I bet they do in the Netherlands @web2literacy #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:09 |
@hoprea Could you give an example of a weak and strong version? #ELTCHAT |
| Shaunwilden |
11:09 |
@eannegrenoble they usually say they did so we can find out what they want to know #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:09 |
@eannegrenoble we just changed the rules while you were not looking :-D #eltchat |
| Mercedes_Kamijo |
11:09 |
RT @HPTeachExchange: Online community w/ thousands of teachers http://t.co/mqO4gA5 #edchat #edtech #eltchat |
| web2literacy |
11:10 |
#eltchat do any of you have any big reservations about CA? |
| mkofab |
11:10 |
@web2literacy School system - not very well informed about private schools. ALL state schools have English on curriculum #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:10 |
RT @harrisonmike: @antoniaclare Not necessarily in an L2 #eltchat |
| CeciELT |
11:10 |
Sorry for being late... trying to catch up #ELTChat |
| aClilToClimb |
11:10 |
@web2literacy hre, it depends. sum of the state schools, yes, 2 a certain extent, but they have official skool of languages (EOI) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
11:10 |
@sandymillin later #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:10 |
@web2literacy Maybe exaggerating about the 60s. Maybe more like 70s. #ELTCHAT |
| antoniaclare |
11:10 |
@harrisonmike Isn't that what sts everywhere need to do nowadays? (communicate) #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:10 |
ESOL sts have a drive to communicate, though - they need to do it to live! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:10 |
I think CA is a bit of a catch all and teachers arent fully sure what it i is #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:10 |
Weak = PPP strong TBL - a bvery rough constrast #ELtchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:10 |
@web2literacy Here in France, it's becoming more normal in the public system. In the private system it's been around since the 60s. #ELTCHAT |
| eannegrenoble |
11:11 |
@hoprea @hoprea I'd like to hear more, but seem to be out of bounds :-) just tried to DM that :-( #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:11 |
@web2literacy Yes I think people use it as umbrella - I interview tchsr and they say 'i use the CA' and I say how....silence #eltchat |
| web2literacy |
11:11 |
@aClilToClimb EOIs? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:11 |
@web2literacy I don't think anyone has reservations about the basic premise of CLT - #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:11 |
@web2literacy Sts do, I think (well from certain educational traditions) they expect all grammar at once, actually last wk in fact #eltchat |
| samshep |
11:11 |
@bethcagnol @hoprea @bethcagnol @hoprea weak = regular coursebooks these days, strong = TBL or poss (dare i say it) dogme. #eltchat |
| aClilToClimb |
11:11 |
And in the EOIs yes, they follow a communicative approach, but still vey much coursebook-based albeit w/ supplementary material #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:11 |
RT @Shaunwilden I think CA is a bit of a catch all and teachers arent fully sure what it i is #eltchat >> A bit like Dogme perhaps? |
| CeciELT |
11:12 |
@Shaunwilden Agree most ppl use CA as an umbrella without really knowing why or how (or worse: WHAT) #ELTChat |
| web2literacy |
11:12 |
@aClilToClimb In which country? #eltchat |
| sarah_SKB |
11:12 |
does communicative approach = without a coursebook? sorry could someone define TBL for me please?? #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:12 |
So would you say CLT is trying to get students to speak as much as possible, putting grammar/vocab on backburner? #eltchat |
| aClilToClimb |
11:12 |
@web2literacy see previous tweet - official school languages, which are sort of adult schools, but govt-funded #eltchat |
| Dru_Step |
11:12 |
My sts certainly communicate but is that actually the Communicative Approach (as a capitalised concept!)? #eltchat |
| onetooneteacher |
11:12 |
@web2literacy yes, if it's talking for the sake of talking without any opportunities for learning to come out of it #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:12 |
@bethcagnol Dont get me started :-) #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:13 |
@sarah_SKB TBL is task-based learning. If you've used Cutting Edge it's kind of like that. It's teaching via tasks #eltchat |
| web2literacy |
11:13 |
@aClilToClimb Just to clarify because I'm working for one in Valencia - good to talk to a colleague :) #eltchat |
| samshep |
11:13 |
#eltchat do we need to start discussing communicative competence yet? Surely the defs of this (Nunan, Hymes, etc) are at the centre of CLT? |
| Shaunwilden |
11:13 |
@sarah_SKB Task Based learning - http://bit.ly/oLMvat #eltchat |
| aClilToClimb |
11:13 |
*the Canary Is #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:13 |
@bethcagnol Hi Beth and Gillian ! #eltchat ;) |
| bethcagnol |
11:13 |
@web2literacy One reservation: using it as an excuse to charge loads of money 2 students (chatting w/ them & calling it CA). #eltchat |
| tarabenwell |
11:13 |
Here in Canada we were taught to use Communicative Approach. But that was a number of years ago. I need to go back to school. :) #ELTChat |
| aClilToClimb |
11:13 |
@web2literacy in the Canaty Islands, Spain #eltchat |
| divyabrochier |
11:14 |
#eltchat hi everyone, hope i have't missed too much |
| ChrisOzog |
11:14 |
CA needs to be implemented well. My Spanish classes bore me wth lots of "Radio Rhubard" sort of the CA&topics i'm not interested in #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:14 |
@ManosSY Just use the #ELTchat hashtag if you want to comment Manno |
| aClilToClimb |
11:14 |
@web2literacy :) #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:14 |
@samshep Interesting, Sam (re: coursebooks vs TBL / Dogma) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:14 |
TBL is Task Based LearningSs engage in a productive skills activity using all abvailable language THEN they look at how it is done #ELTchat |
| web2literacy |
11:15 |
#eltchat I do have reservations about CA, oh dear shouldn't have said that |
| harrisonmike |
11:15 |
are we on to how to intro communicative approaches and related activities? #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:15 |
here n Kwt we use the CA for the last few years and i find it much more useful and effective but there is a problem with writing #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:15 |
@divyabrochier Bonsoir ma cherie! Hope the kids are well. #eltchat |
| mkofab |
11:15 |
@sandymillin Here it meant a change to focus on the 4 skills not on vocab and grammar without any context #eltchat |
| samshep |
11:15 |
@bethcagnol some coursebooks do a sort of TBLish approach, or at least have tasks in them... #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:15 |
@sarah_SKB Task Based Learning (TBL) #eltchat |
| sarah_SKB |
11:15 |
@Shaunwilden @sandymillin @Marisa_C thanks! #eltchat |
| aClilToClimb |
11:15 |
@web2literacy I don't normally participate in #eltchat bc I'm 2 slow |
| MariaKaz |
11:15 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: Do you use humour in the classroom? http://oxford.ly/naL7Kl from @MrWriteCzech #english #teaching #efl #eltchat #skills |
| colorincolorado |
11:15 |
Get tips on teaching ELLs to read in our professional development webcast: http://ow.ly/5ulTQ #ellcaht #eltchat #teaching #education |
| BrainTrack |
11:15 |
>> RT @DrTimony: Excellent article on reading and its benefits: http://ow.ly/1uk1bA #Edchat #eltchat |
| mkofab |
11:16 |
@web2literacy Shoot! ;-) #eltchat |
| sarah_SKB |
11:16 |
RT @PrettyButWise: but there is a problem with writing < i worry about that too #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:16 |
@web2literacy What are they? Good to hear a voice of dissention :-) #eltchat |
| onetooneteacher |
11:16 |
IMO it should reflect the belief that communication itself can facilitate learning - miss the learning part out it's crap #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:16 |
@web2literacy Oh go on share :-) what are the reservations? #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:16 |
RT @bethcagnol: @samshep Interesting, Sam (re: coursebooks vs TBL / Dogma) #eltchat Not sure I agree - think it depends on T style, not mats |
| CeciELT |
11:16 |
RT @mkofab: @sandymillin Here it meant a change to focus on the 4 skills not on vocab and grammar without any context #eltchat >Same here |
| vickysaumell |
11:16 |
RT @marcusmurilo: English Vocabulary Profile > excellent resource, esp if you teach exam classes http://is.gd/LUJLRi #eltchat > Interesting |
| divyabrochier |
11:17 |
@bethcagnol hey you, are we chatting about tbl or comm approach? trying to catch up #eltchat |
| web2literacy |
11:17 |
#eltchat - Because I've worked in places like Bulgaria where the students were such good English speakers - no CA at school |
| CeciELT |
11:17 |
@sarah_SKB @PrettyButWise What kind of problem in writing??? I find it easier to work with writing using CA. #ELTChat |
| samshep |
11:17 |
@antoniaclare @bethcagnol agree - meant the approaches used in cbks - often discovery or PPP in structure, both v CLT #eltchat |
| fionamau |
11:17 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @web2literacy Oh go on share :-) what are the reservations? #eltchat > Intrigued :-) |
| bethcagnol |
11:17 |
@samshep Don't get me started about coursebooks. Currently writing one & it's terrible how authors are squeezed into a "norm." #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:17 |
Hi everyone on #eltchat |
| warnhopepark |
11:17 |
RT @onetooneteacher: CA = basic common sense - what's the alternative? uncommunicative approach? #eltchat |
| Zwrzi |
11:17 |
@PrettyButWise #eltchat I think that it mainly depends on the teaching situation. U can't use CA everywhere. |
| Shaunwilden |
11:17 |
@PrettyButWise What do you man problem with writing? #eltchat |
| CeciELT |
11:17 |
@web2literacy Don't say that! Reservations are good because they make everyone reflect...doesn't mean either is right or wrong #ELTChat |
| web2literacy |
11:18 |
#eltchat because I think CA is only appropriate when all students are on an equal footing in class - and that is very rare |
| bethcagnol |
11:18 |
@Shaunwilden @samshep @antoniaclare In my experience...sadly no. #eltchat |
| samshep |
11:18 |
@bethcagnol lucky you. Haven't used one for years (no real call in UK ESOL). #eltchat |
| CeciELT |
11:18 |
@web2literacy You mean that ppl can learn and be good speakers without CA??? Of course thy can! I learned with audiolingual! #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:18 |
RT @warnhopepark: @onetooneteacher I like this, a while ago I was told that communicative approach was "old hat" #eltchat It is isnt it? |
| harrisonmike |
11:18 |
@CeciELT CA helps provide the 'reason' for writing/reading, right? Much better than 'write 5 sentences using the present simple' #eltchat |
| fionamau |
11:18 |
RT @sarah_SKB @PrettyButWise: problem with writing < i worry about that too #eltchat > what prob?Most real-life writing is fr communicatn |
| Marisa_C |
11:18 |
@web2literacy Well, I know a lot of good users who have learnt through grammar translation too #eltchat |
| Dru_Step |
11:18 |
#eltchat I'm interested in activities/suggestions people use to facilitate CA. Do you start with reason to speak then move to correction? |
| warnhopepark |
11:18 |
@onetooneteacher I like this, a while ago I was told that the communicative approach was "old hat" #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:18 |
@web2literacy Please let us know your reservations! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:18 |
@samshep @antoniaclare @bethcagnol Doesnt it depend on the age of the cbk? #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:18 |
RT @bethcagnol Don't get me started about coursebooks. Currently writing 1 & it's terrible how authors are squeezed into a "norm." #eltchat |
| web2literacy |
11:19 |
@CeciELT well exactly - so where are the strengths in CA? What makes it a viable approach? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:19 |
RT @onetooneteacher: @Marisa_C Exactly - and cycling on a real bike not an exercise bike ie inauthentic language use #eltchat >yes |
| tarabenwell |
11:19 |
RT @CeciELT: @harrisonmike Exactly Mike! And it allows you to work with writing that's actually meaningful and useful to the SS #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:19 |
@bethcagnol I agree the editors have the pre-conceptions about what a book should be #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:19 |
@Shaunwilden I'd like to think so ;) #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:19 |
@Shaunwilden Ss don't practice writing in early stages bcoz the focus is on speaking and listening #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:19 |
@web2literacy don't quite agree with that - CA allows for a lot of mixed ability teaching #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:19 |
Get the sts to make the content ;o) RT @samshep: @bethcagnol lucky you. Haven't used one for years (no real call in UK ESOL). #eltchat |
| fionamau |
11:19 |
RT @pacogascon: Hi everyone on #eltchat > thanks fr reminding me! I forgot to say Hi!! Good evening, all |
| CeciELT |
11:19 |
@harrisonmike Exactly Mike! And it allows you to work with writing that's actually meaningful and useful to the SS #ELTChat |
| antoniaclare |
11:19 |
@bethcagnol It's so hard to innovate in coursebooks, but worth the effort if you do ;) #eltchat |
| onetooneteacher |
11:19 |
@Marisa_C Exactly - and cycling on a real bike not an exercise bike ie inauthentic language use #eltchat |
| warnhopepark |
11:19 |
@onetooneteacher to which I did wonder: "So what's the 'new hat' to replace it?" CA works for me & is v. adaptable I find #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:20 |
@web2literacy What makes it a viable approach IMOHO - more flexible & open to additions than other more dogmatic approaches #eltchat |
| samshep |
11:20 |
@warnhopepark @onetooneteacher perhaps we need to be thinking about post methods & "principled eclecticism" #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:20 |
@warnhopepark so if CA is old hat, what would you say has replaced it? #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
11:20 |
surely the situation requires the methodology and teachers should be able to adapt to what is needed at the time #ELTchat adapt |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:20 |
RT @hoprea: #ELTChat CA is so adaptable because it's an approach, not a method, not a technique. It's a theory about language and language learning. |
| CeciELT |
11:20 |
@web2literacy I have a different view on in. I think CA works in multi-level groups... it has the same probs any other approach wud.#ELTChat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:20 |
RT @warnhopepark: @onetooneteacher to which I did wonder: "So what's the 'new hat' to replace it?" >> Nation's 4 threads definitely #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:20 |
RT @harrisonmike: Can you communicate easily with a coursebook, though? @BethCagnol @AntoniaClare (any other writers about?)?? #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:20 |
@divyabrochier Communicative Approach. Remember all that w/ Peter Strutt during our MA? #memories #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:20 |
@CeciELT @sarah_SKB @PrettyButWise Here are some ideas for communicative writing http://bit.ly/nQIa2M All worked well! #ELTChat |
| hoprea |
11:20 |
#ELTChat CA is so adaptable because it's an approach, not a method, not a technique. It's a theory about language and language learning. |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:20 |
clt is throwing out the textbook and practising listening and speaking skills, isnΒ΄t it? #eltchat |
| divyabrochier |
11:20 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @onetooneteacher I like this, a while ago I was told that communicative approach was "old hat" #eltchat It is isnt it? |
| Blog4Edu |
11:20 |
via @Mtranslator All's About Sharing http://bit.ly/kYLCUf #ELTChat |
| divyabrochier |
11:21 |
@onetooneteacher LOL:) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:21 |
@sandymillin The new CA which is the Lexical Approach - combines CLT and more #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:21 |
RT @Zwrzi: @eyespeakbrasil The basic objective of the CA is to present language in context, whether there is a coursebook or not. #eltchat |
| fionamau |
11:21 |
RT @antoniaclare: @bethcagnol It's so hard to innovate in coursebooks, but worth the effort if you do ;) #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:21 |
@harrisonmike @AntoniaClare By communicate - do you mean with the finished product? or try to work in CA while writing it? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:21 |
@web2literacy Isnt the key to use the best bits as we do with other methods and approaches? #eltchat |
| Dru_Step |
11:21 |
@web2literacy #eltchat and what makes the sts believe they're learning, not just time-wasting... they crave structure (rightly or wrongly) |
| Zwrzi |
11:21 |
@eyespeakbrasil The basic objective of the CA is to present language in context, whether there is a coursebook or not. #eltchat |
| hoprea |
11:21 |
@CeciELT @web2literacy Wow! Is it the first time we agree during a discussion on one of these chats, Ceci?! LOL #ELTChat |
| onetooneteacher |
11:21 |
@divyabrochier @Shaunwilden if it's what Swan called the 'You work for Radio Rhubarb' approach of inauthentic language yes #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:21 |
CA caters for all 4 skills #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:21 |
Sorry about RTing myself ppl - I keep forgetting to hashtag #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:21 |
@samshep @Shaunwilden @antoniaclare Some publishers do. Others have seen the light. #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
11:21 |
#Teaching #Pronunciation - Prosody Method booklet http://bit.ly/i1Jo0R #eltchat #esl #efl #tefl #tesl #teachingenglish |
| shaznosel |
11:22 |
@hoprea EXACLTY! seems to be a lot of things..can we define it?? #eltchat |
| hoprea |
11:22 |
@sarah_SKB I don't think the problem is with CA, it's with the teacher's take of it. #ELTChat |
| mkofab |
11:22 |
RT @samshep: #eltchat i wd describe my approach as definitely eclectic with a communicative focus. |
| sandymillin |
11:22 |
RT @web2literacy: #eltchat because I think CA is only appropriate when all students are on an equal footing in class - and that is very rare |
| CeciELT |
11:22 |
@web2literacy ... simply have SS memorize set structures and rules. It gets them to manipulate the lang and create with it. IMHO #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:22 |
RT @samshep: #eltchat i wd describe my approach as definitely eclectic with a communicative focus. |
| antoniaclare |
11:22 |
@harrisonmike I wouldn't write them if i didn't think you could. i think good mats, used well, lead to good communication in class #eltchat |
| warnhopepark |
11:22 |
@sandymillin exactly, this is what I thought. I haven't found an approach that works better in the teaching situations I've been in #eltchat |
| sarah_SKB |
11:22 |
CA can perhaps lead to uneven development of skills? writing can fall behind if focus on speaking/listening #eltchat |
| samshep |
11:22 |
#eltchat i wd describe my approach as definitely eclectic with a communicative focus. |
| MarianSteiner |
11:22 |
RT @vickysaumell: RT @marcusmurilo: English Vocabulary Profile > excellent, esp if you teach exam classes http://is.gd/LUJLRi #eltchat |
| CeciELT |
11:23 |
@web2literacy For me CA makes it easier to develop fluency and provide SS w/ lang they'll actually use. CA enables them, doesn't...#ELTChat |
| hoprea |
11:23 |
@shaznosel If we think about Anthony's definition of approach, method, design, and procedure, we are likely to get close. #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
11:23 |
@web2literacy I have done a lot of work with low literacy students & it does work - but they need some literacy extras #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:23 |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @samshep: #eltchat i wd describe my approach as definitely eclectic with a communicative focus. >Nice ;) |
| fionamau |
11:23 |
RT @hoprea: #ELTChat CA is so adaptable because it's an approach, not a method, not a technique. It's a theory about language and language learning. |
| Shaunwilden |
11:23 |
@onetooneteacher completely agree #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:23 |
RT @antoniaclare: @harrisonmike I wouldn't write them if i didn't think you could. i think good mats, used well, lead to good communication in class #eltchat |
| warnhopepark |
11:23 |
@samshep @onetooneteacher I don't think my brain is going to cope with principled eclecticism at this time of night! :) #eltchat |
| fionamau |
11:23 |
RT @web2literacy: @CeciELT so where are the strengths in CA? What makes it a viable approach? #eltchat > as opposed to what approach? |
| bethcagnol |
11:23 |
RT @sandymillin: @CeciELT @sarah_SKB @PrettyButWise Here are some ideas for communicative writing http://bit.ly/nQIa2M All worked well! #ELTChat |
| onetooneteacher |
11:23 |
@samshep @Shaunwilden I think after all these methods we've been through a bit of post- would be a good thing #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:23 |
@fionamau @sarah_skb no less writing and more listening and speaking a few amount of writing, coloring and other exersices #eltchat |
| web2literacy |
11:23 |
@Marisa_C Yes I agree with you. But in e.g ESOL many studentls low-level literate and core exercises such as info gap don't work #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:23 |
I am not sure why coursebooks have come into this discussion to be quite honest #ELTchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:23 |
RT @hoprea: @sarah_SKB I don't think the problem is with CA, it's with the teacher's take of it. #ELTChat |
| cherrymp |
11:23 |
#Teaching #Pronunciation: A handbook for #teachers and #trainers http://bit.ly/c3zvlM #eltchat #elt #efl #esl #tefl #tesl |
| Marisa_C |
11:23 |
Have you voted for this Wednesday's #ELTchat? I have! Please proceed to the voting station and RT :-D http://bit.ly/npEqL8 |
| cherrymp |
11:23 |
on collaborative #english teaching from #pakistan - http://bit.ly/k9ODgG #eltchat #elt #efl #esl #edchat #tefl #tesl |
| bethcagnol |
11:24 |
RT @divyabrochier: @hoprea YES! I agree, i remember being a first-time terrified teacher faced with a class and the word COMMUNICATIVE in my head #eltchat |
| onetooneteacher |
11:24 |
@warnhopepark haha no, i'll stick with the unprincipled variety for a bit longer #eltchat |
| CeciELT |
11:24 |
@web2literacy Sorry...had to delete and tweet again - out of order bc had forgotten hashtag #ELTChat |
| divyabrochier |
11:24 |
@hoprea #eltchat and basically went it had a big chat and left hoping we'd been communicative |
| tarabenwell |
11:24 |
Despite my efforts to create more communicative lessons for my clients, teachers still beg for more grammar based worksheets. #ELTChat |
| Marisa_C |
11:24 |
@web2literacy .... as well as problem solving, case studies, role simulations and projects #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:24 |
RT @samshep: @harrisonmike @bethcagnol ss *are* the content. #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:24 |
CA is the best method to teach L as F but it needs more writing exersices #eltchat |
| divyabrochier |
11:24 |
@hoprea YES! I agree, i remember being a first-time terrified teacher faced with a class and the word COMMUNICATIVE in my head #eltchat |
| samshep |
11:24 |
@harrisonmike @bethcagnol ss *are* the content. #eltchat |
| web2literacy |
11:24 |
@Marisa_C + role plays, etc - these exercises are based around CA #eltchat |
| tarabenwell |
11:25 |
@divyabrochier @hoprea Me too! #ELTChat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:25 |
RT @sarah_SKB: CA can perhaps lead to uneven development of skills? writing can fall behind if focus on speaking/listening #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:25 |
@hoprea Unstructured and quite sloppy I would guess? :-) #ELTChat |
| sarah_SKB |
11:25 |
I'm still not sure what the opposite of CA looks like!! #eltchat |
| CeciELT |
11:25 |
@hoprea Hahaha I hope it's not the last time we agree on something Rick!!! ;-) #ELTChat |
| warnhopepark |
11:25 |
@sarah_SKB I find different, productive skills tend to develop more with CA, I know I shld do more structured listening activities #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:25 |
@hoprea And many students too #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
11:25 |
@CeciELT @hoprea Yes let's discuss what the approach actually is...'communicative' is a big umbrella #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:25 |
@web2literacy @Marisa_C I think I agree with you Richard but sts do need to have something that helps them feel confident #eltchat |
| hoprea |
11:25 |
#ELTChat One of the main problems I see is that many teachers equate CA with speaking, and it's just conversation time, not even a class. |
| Dru_Step |
11:25 |
@web2literacy #eltchat With ESOL I feel they often have the communication from the street, without the accuracy. Natural CA...! |
| CeciELT |
11:25 |
@sandymillin Thanks for the ideas Sandy!!!! #ELTChat |
| cherrymp |
11:25 |
RT @missnoor28: Interesting Teacher Training Videos created via @russell1955 - http://bit.ly/bjg3C #edtech #ESL #EFL #ELT #edchat #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:26 |
@hoprea We don't do that - good CLT practice is based on authentic tasks and if possible also authentic text #ELTChat |
| web2literacy |
11:26 |
#eltchat my feeling is we really need to question CA and the types of activities it informs in class e.g. pair-work - do we overdo it? |
| sandymillin |
11:26 |
@eannegrenoble what are the '4 threads' - don't think I know that one #eltchat |
| tarabenwell |
11:26 |
@sarah_SKB Is there an opposite? #ELTChat |
| bethcagnol |
11:26 |
@samshep @harrisonmike I agree! But tell that to the editors, the copy editors, the content editors and the series editors. #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:26 |
RT @Marisa_C: @sandymillin The new CA which is the Lexical Approach + following .twts >>P.Nations "4 threads" seem to say it all #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:26 |
@sarah_SKB @PrettyButWise disagree theres plenty of CA writing and reading activities #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:26 |
#eltchat technology is giving us amazing new ways to help sts communicate with each other around the world, using all 4 skills, so important |
| warnhopepark |
11:26 |
@onetooneteacher unprincipled sounds good! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:26 |
@sarah_SKB Lots of L1? Overdone controlled drills? #eltchat |
| hoprea |
11:26 |
@Marisa_C Exactly that, Marisa! #ELTChat |
| sandymillin |
11:26 |
RT @samshep: #eltchat i wd describe my approach as definitely eclectic with a communicative focus. <me too |
| divyabrochier |
11:26 |
#eltchat @hoprea and i think that is how CLT is presented in a lot of 4-week express TEFL courses like the one I did 12 years ago |
| bethcagnol |
11:26 |
@divyabrochier @hoprea Exactly! That's one of my reservations about tchrs beliefs about what CA is. #eltchat CC @web2literacy |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:26 |
@tarabenwell they feel more secure as learners as they believe grammar is everything:) #ELTChat |
| cherrymp |
11:26 |
#Guardian #TEFL Update for #July: http://bit.ly/orfDyA #eltchat #elt #efl #esl #tefl #tesl |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:27 |
@antoniaclare yes but clt revolves around speaking, listening and this verbal communication, doesn it? IΒ΄m confused. #eltchat |
| samshep |
11:27 |
#eltchat many methods stem from non-CLT ideas - drilling = audiolingualism yet used in "communicative" approaches. |
| mkofab |
11:27 |
@web2literacy Don't think you can overdo it. Most real life conversation is pair work, isn't it ? :-) #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:27 |
RT @Zwrzi: @PrettyButWise #eltchat I think that it mainly depends on the teaching situation. U can't use CA everywhere. |
| antoniaclare |
11:27 |
#eltchat@web2literacy Perhaps we should move focus to more authentic / genuine / REAL communication (personalised / relevant) not just PW |
| hoprea |
11:27 |
@Marisa_C Oh, I'm sure many don't do that, but there are many who simply say they abide by CA because it's a trend word. #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:27 |
RT @web2literacy: #eltchat my feeling is we really need to ? CA and types of activities it informs in class e.g. pair-work - agreed :-) |
| Dru_Step |
11:27 |
Love using roleplays/problem solving (even board games) for negotiation & they don't realise how much lang they're using #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:27 |
RT @hoprea: #ELTChat One of the main problems I see is that many teachers equate CA with speaking, and it's just conversation time, not even a class. |
| pacogascon |
11:27 |
RT @eannegrenoble: RT @Marisa_C: @sandymillin The new CA which is the Lexical Approach + following .twts >>P.Nations "4 threads" seem to say it all #eltchat |
| hoprea |
11:27 |
@shaznosel @CeciELT I agree! If we can get to terms with our beliefs towards learning and teaching, then we can abide by CA or not. #ELTChat |
| divyabrochier |
11:27 |
RT @Marisa_C: @hoprea We don't do that - good CLT practice is based on authentic tasks and if possible also authentic text #ELTChat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:27 |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat technology is giving us amazing new ways to help sts communicate with each other around the world, using all 4 skills, so important |
| eannegrenoble |
11:28 |
@sandymillin Lookinf for ref >>25% content 25% fluency practice 25% looking at language and 25% production #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:28 |
@hoprea A guy did a market research study here in France and found that the price of training has not gone up with inflation. #eltchat |
| fionamau |
11:28 |
RT @Marisa_C: I am not sure why coursebooks have come into this discussion to be quite honest #ELTchat > Strategies was influential in CA... |
| hoprea |
11:28 |
@divyabrochier Which is rather unfortunate, isn't it? Still, it's better than not receiving any training and saying, "I use the CA" #ELTChat |
| antoniaclare |
11:28 |
@eyespeakbrasil Speaking and listening are primary, but reading and writng v important on internet #eltchat |
| divyabrochier |
11:28 |
#eltchat I know many teachers who equate being communicative with just speaking, who don't know how to structure it, give feedback, |
| pacogascon |
11:28 |
@eyespeakbrasil @antoniaclare not really, it also focuses on written communication #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:28 |
@hoprea I also know a lot of people who claim to be eclectic when what they really are is totally ignorant :-D #ELTChat |
| CeciELT |
11:28 |
@Dru_Step When they don't realize take a few mins in the end of class and reflect, elicit what they learned - teach them to see it #ELTChat |
| web2literacy |
11:28 |
@mkofab yes but is it dialogue? #eltchat |
| onetooneteacher |
11:28 |
@web2literacy agree there totally #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:28 |
Quick fix 4 grammar hungry sts: Teach them for a period of time (fortnight) using only grammar-translation based materials, then #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:28 |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat@web2literacy Perhaps we should move focus to more authentic / genuine / REAL communication (personalised / relevant) not just PW |
| bethcagnol |
11:28 |
@hoprea Exactly!!! And IMO that's one of the main reasons the value of English instruction in the private sector has gone down! #eltchat |
| onetooneteacher |
11:29 |
I fear CA is used a lot by by DOSs because it sounds posh but they haven't a clue what it means #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:29 |
RT @samshep: @bethcagnol @harrisonmike They'd save a lot on ink. Just a big pad of paper. Sound business proposition #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
11:29 |
@Marisa_C Ignorant of what?? Have i missed something here? #eltchat |
| warnhopepark |
11:29 |
@Shaunwilden @sarah_SKB Ah, this is part of CA I don't really do - controlled drills - bit like reciting times tables in primary 2 #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:29 |
i'm surprised that in CA teaching writing is not allowed although it's something imporatant especially in early stages #eltchat |
| web2literacy |
11:29 |
@Shaunwilden yes - how doe we bring that real-life into class? #eltchat |
| samshep |
11:29 |
@bethcagnol @harrisonmike They'd save a lot on ink. Just a big pad of paper. Sound business proposition #eltchat |
| fionamau |
11:29 |
RT @Marisa_C: I am not sure why coursebooks have come into this discussion #ELTchat > & bcoz crsbks largely dictate method in most contexts |
| Shaunwilden |
11:29 |
RT @pacogascon: Being a communicative teacher does not equal using a communicative approach #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:29 |
...a completely communcative lesson. I think the sts would flounder and maybe see grammar doesn't = language learning all the time #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:29 |
@hoprea His theory: because teachers flocked to France in the 70s and just chatted with students calling it CA. #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:29 |
Being a communicative teacher does not equal using a communicative approach #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:29 |
@divyabrochier Good point - good CLT planning require very carefull structuring #eltchat |
| hoprea |
11:29 |
@Marisa_C LOL... that's also true. :) #ELTChat |
| sandymillin |
11:29 |
@eannegrenoble sounds interesting #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:29 |
#eltchat@mkofab @web2literacy but real life is often not quite contrived as some CA PW situations #eltchat |
| cherrymp |
11:29 |
#India to #teach #English to #Kyrgyz armed forces - http://bit.ly/mPmm3D #efl #tefl #eltchat |
| MarianSteiner |
11:29 |
RT @Marisa_C: Have you voted for this Wednesday's #ELTchat? I have! Please proceed to the voting station and RT :-D http://bit.ly/npEqL8 |
| antoniaclare |
11:30 |
RT @pacogascon: CA aims at acquiring communicative competence that encloses 5 diff subcompetences #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:30 |
@Shaunwilden I think if you went from straight grammar to communication it would highlight the point. Sometimes extremes needed #eltchat |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:30 |
CA and CLT are different things right? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:30 |
@web2literacy It's one reason I dont like roleplay - you pretend your the train driver etc no just act like yourself :-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:30 |
@shaznosel I will suggest a new definition of eclectisism - haphazard slapstcik :-D #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:30 |
@onetooneteacher Neither do I oops #eltchat |
| Zwrzi |
11:30 |
@antoniaclare Don't we (teachers & Ss) need, though, some training on how to do it? This is another important aspect. #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:30 |
RT @Marisa_C: @divyabrochier Good point - good CLT planning require very carefull structuring #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:30 |
@web2literacy authentic material, texts, maps etc #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:30 |
CA aims at acquiring communicative competence that encloses 5 diff subcompetences #eltchat |
| Dru_Step |
11:30 |
@CeciELT #ELTChat Yes, exactly. I usually relay back a few of the most choice phrases & they're often surprised at the complexity! |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:30 |
well, clt and dogme kinda go hand in hand donΒ΄t they #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:30 |
@harrisonmike Doesnt that depend on how weak or strong the approach is? #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:30 |
@fionamau I know I know Fiona - but we are discussing the approach not published materials #ELTchat |
| DaveDodgson |
11:30 |
From @OUPELTGlobal Do you use humour in the classroom? http://bit.ly/lXMVGf #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:31 |
@hoprea It's not an unfounded belief - it relies on skills acquisition theory and how to become an expert performer in the skill #ELTChat |
| Zwrzi |
11:31 |
RT @pacogascon: Being a communicative teacher does not equal using a communicative approach #eltchat |
| sandymillin |
11:31 |
RT @shaznosel: @CeciELT @hoprea Yes let's discuss what the approach actually is...'communicative' is a big umbrella #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:31 |
being communicatively competent applies to both written and oral communication #eltchat |
| hoprea |
11:31 |
#ELTChat We believe in CA because we feel that interaction, negotiation of meaning, and the like are important for learning. |
| PrettyButWise |
11:31 |
and i mean here in Kwt ! It's a big mistake and most teachers practice writing as extra effort !! #eltchat |
| CeciELT |
11:31 |
@Dru_Step Same here...especially with more advanced students, who have a harder time at noticing progress #ELTChat |
| mkofab |
11:31 |
@pacogascon sorry but the fifth one being ... ? #eltchat |
| onetooneteacher |
11:31 |
@divyabrochier @hoprea totally agree - let's have a bit of a laugh now students etc .. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:31 |
@warnhopepark I do think some control is necessary though #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
11:31 |
@eyespeakbrasil I think CA is too general as a term..what it is trying to say we shud do?? #eltchat |
| divyabrochier |
11:31 |
#eltchat study time, sorry hastags all messy |
| hoprea |
11:31 |
#ELTChat I think people there's a culture in favour of a CA in the western world - we believe that we learn better by using the language... |
| linguaprof |
11:32 |
#ELTchat We must always keep in mind the difference beetw commun.& grammat. competence, meaningful and authentic are the other two key words |
| Shaunwilden |
11:32 |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat I think we need to look at communicative strategies to help sts when they actually use the lang and have problems |
| fionamau |
11:32 |
RT @mkofab: @web2literacy Don't think you can overdo it. Most real life conversation is pair work, isn't it ? :-) #eltchat |
| tarabenwell |
11:32 |
RT @shaznosel: @CeciELT @hoprea Yes let's discuss what the approach actually is...'communicative' is a big umbrella #eltchat |
| CeciELT |
11:32 |
@PrettyButWise Sorry, what do you mean teaching writing is not allowed? #ELTChat |
| shaznosel |
11:32 |
@Marisa_C Exactly..there seems no defintion..i get ss to speak so Im using CA..very confusing?? #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:32 |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat I think we need to look at communicative strategies to help sts when they actually use the lang and have problems |
| onetooneteacher |
11:32 |
@hoprea good points henrick #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:32 |
#eltchat I think we need to look at communicative strategies to help sts when they actually use the lang and have problems |
| web2literacy |
11:32 |
@NoraTouparlaki yes :) and getting to know the students and letting the students find out about you #eltchat |
| tarabenwell |
11:32 |
@fionamau @Marisa_C And because you have writers here at #ELTChat who also want to benefit from the chat. :) |
| hoprea |
11:32 |
@bethcagnol And that causes another problem - learning is jeopardised. #ELTChat |
| ElsaVelma |
11:32 |
RT @pacogascon: being communicatively competent applies to both written and oral communication #eltchat |
| CeciELT |
11:32 |
RT @pacogascon: being communicatively competent applies to both written and oral communication #eltchat > Completely agree! |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:33 |
@web2literacy I'd suggest material adapted to their needs, interests & of course as you said role pplay is a must, #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:33 |
@eannegrenoble But so is thinking time, support etc #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:33 |
@hoprea If only teachers realized that. #eltchat |
| fionamau |
11:33 |
RT @antoniaclare: @eyespeakbrasil Speaking and listening are primary, but reading and writng v important on internet #eltchat |
| Dru_Step |
11:33 |
@harrisonmike #eltchat My sts often do go straight from grammar to comm when they arrive in UK from China or Korea. They find CA difficult. |
| pacogascon |
11:33 |
@shaznosel u dont need to be using CA just because u get ss to speak #eltchat |
| divyabrochier |
11:33 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat it gets a shiny-happy-people reputation |
| eannegrenoble |
11:33 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @web2literacy It's one reason I dont like roleplay 5(...)>>useful for shy students - v. unthreatening /safe #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:33 |
RT @hoprea: #ELTChat We believe in CA because we feel that interaction, negotiation of meaning, and the like are important for learning >Yes |
| hoprea |
11:33 |
@Marisa_C I couldn't agree more, Marisa, and it's something I believe in too... The problem is how to help your learners develop. #ELTChat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:33 |
@hoprea and i agree with u in this thing ! #eltchat |
| divyabrochier |
11:33 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat, yes and it's related to lowering affect barriers and creating a motivating environment which is why |
| hoprea |
11:34 |
@bethcagnol A lesson should be a lesson - it's the main reason why it's different from an immersion experience. #ELTChat |
| tarabenwell |
11:34 |
@eannegrenoble @Shaunwilden @web2literacy Somebody had a really good blog post about shy sts. May have been @englishraven #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:34 |
RT @Marisa_C: @hoprea The good thing about CLT is that it allows rehearsal - whether PPP or TBL it does - #ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:34 |
@warnhopepark Agreed :-) #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:34 |
RT @warnhopepark: @Shaunwilden control good for pronunciation & initial grammar but think s/s find it weird&artificial if drills go on out of context #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:34 |
@hoprea The good thing about CLT is that it allows rehearsal - whether PPP or TBL it does - #ELTChat |
| shaznosel |
11:34 |
@pacogascon That's my ponit her tonight..I m I using CA because I want my ss to speak?? #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:34 |
I find Ca hard to tackled in large groups. Youre always missing something #eltchat |
| warnhopepark |
11:34 |
@Shaunwilden control good for pronunciation & initial grammar but think s/s find it weird&artificial if drills go on out of context #eltchat |
| vimpela |
11:34 |
RT @pacogascon: Being a communicative teacher does not equal using a communicative approach #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:35 |
@ElsaVelma nice a great idea ! #eltchat |
| Dru_Step |
11:35 |
@CeciELT #ELTChat Also highlights the importance of some activities they see as 'fillers'. They need to know the relevance of activities |
| bethcagnol |
11:35 |
@hoprea Not that there's anything wrong with conversation time as long as we're honest with the students about what it is really. #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:35 |
@PrettyButWise @CeciELT really??!! #eltchat |
| warnhopepark |
11:35 |
RT @hoprea: @bethcagnol A lesson should be a lesson - it's the main reason why it's different from an immersion experience. #ELTChat |
| divyabrochier |
11:35 |
RT @hoprea: @bethcagnol A lesson should be a lesson - it's the main reason why it's different from an immersion experience. #ELTChat |
| fionamau |
11:35 |
RT @eyespeakbrasil: well, clt and dogme kinda go hand in hand donΒ΄t they #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:35 |
@CeciELT here in Kwt they ask us to focus on speaking and listening and few reading but NEVER ask pupils in 1G to write letters !! #eltchat |
| divyabrochier |
11:36 |
#eltchat like dogme clt is such a comfort zone which can be interpreted as "well i don't really have to do anywork" by the inexperienced |
| bethcagnol |
11:36 |
@hoprea Interesting (re: immersion difference) - BTW Geez, it's SO nice to have you back on #ELTCHAT. Really. Seriously! |
| CeciELT |
11:36 |
@pacogascon @PrettyButWise Wow! I am a gr8 enthusiast 4 working w/ writing in class, lots of communicative activities can be done! #ELTChat |
| web2literacy |
11:36 |
#eltchat @tarabenwell personally I think role plays generally make sts feel less secure #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:36 |
@hoprea @warnhopepark @bethcagnol but CA try to bring lessons as close as they can get to ling immersion #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
11:36 |
@harrisonmike yes I've come across that too #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:36 |
There is research (can't lay my hands on it at the mo) which suggests that in the long term, TBL is the most successful - not PPP #ELTChat |
| antoniaclare |
11:36 |
RT @bethcagnol Not that there's anything wrong with conversation time as long as we're honest with the sts about what it is really. #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:36 |
@Dru_Step Makes probs 4 language school across road frm me - Asian sts score highly so they get into high classes, thn can't speak! #eltchat |
| CeciELT |
11:37 |
@Dru_Step Relevance, expected results, etc... totally agree! #ELTChat |
| hoprea |
11:37 |
@bethcagnol I didn't realise how much I missed it till now! :) #ELTChat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:37 |
RT @web2literacy: #eltchat @tarabenwell personally I think role plays generally make sts feel less secure #el… (cont) http://deck.ly/~IxgoL |
| PrettyButWise |
11:37 |
@pacogascon yeah and not all might participate but in general it's the best method #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:37 |
@CeciELT @PrettyButWise sure you can make writing related tasks interesting #eltchat |
| divyabrochier |
11:37 |
#eltchat inexperienced underpaid teacher |
| harrisonmike |
11:37 |
@Marisa_C Or just very intuitive? #eltchat #eclectic approach to teaching |
| hoprea |
11:37 |
@bethcagnol Absolutely! :) But then we can scaffold, correct, guide, record for later use or anything that'll lead to improvement. #eltchat |
| knolinfos |
11:37 |
RT @web20education: #facebookvideocalling video chat with facebook friends and #pln #edtech20 #edchat #ukedchat #eltchat #iste11 #ece11 http://t.co/ScX399I |
| Marisa_C |
11:37 |
@Shaunwilden will try #eltchat |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:37 |
@CeciELT really, and i thought the opposite #ELTChat |
| web20education |
11:37 |
#facebookvideocalling video chat with facebook friends and #pln #edtech20 #edchat #ukedchat #eltchat #iste11 #ece11 http://t.co/ScX399I |
| Shaunwilden |
11:37 |
@Marisa_C Oo can you try and find it after #eltchat |
| Can_ada |
11:37 |
RT @BrainTrack: >> RT @DrTimony: Excellent article on reading and its benefits: http://ow.ly/1uk1bA #Edchat #eltchat |
| Dru_Step |
11:38 |
@harrisonmike #eltchat We often have Asian high level grammar sts in same class with ESOL high speakers. The results are pretty good! |
| Shaunwilden |
11:38 |
RT @vbenevolofranca: @Marisa_C @hopreaThis is the bit I often think teachers forget-which is the "practice" bit in PPP- it's working lang out time #ELTChat |
| divyabrochier |
11:38 |
RT @vbenevolofranca:This is the bit I often think teachers forget-which is the "practice" bit in PPP- it's working lang out time #ELTChat |
| web2literacy |
11:38 |
@NoraTouparlaki totally agree with you :) stop all this contriving #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:38 |
@PrettyButWise I can't think of excluding writing when learning a foreign lang #eltchat |
| vbenevolofranca |
11:38 |
@Marisa_C @hopreaThis is the bit I often think teachers forget-which is the "practice" bit in PPP- it's working lang out time #ELTChat |
| CeciELT |
11:38 |
RT @hoprea: @bethcagnol I didn't realise how much I missed it till now! :) #ELTChat > Me too!!!!! :-( |
| Annoula64 |
11:38 |
RT @Ilotimo: NEW POST in Education Technology t&p : #Skype in Classroom http://bit.ly/lrJyRC #edtech #edchat #finnedchat #eduswe #eltchat |
| web2literacy |
11:39 |
@shaznosel agree :) #eltchat |
| warnhopepark |
11:39 |
@pacogascon @hoprea @bethcagnol In short bursts it does but you can't help but take time out to explain + give feedback #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
11:39 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @shaznosel I can think of many Czech sts that would disagree with that :-) #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:39 |
@shaznosel PPP gives a lot of short lived satisfaction :-D True! The day after it's all gone!!!!!!!!! #eltchat |
| CeciELT |
11:39 |
@eyespeakbrasil What do U mean U thought the opposite? That I didn't like working w/ writing? Or that writing & CA are diff to mix?#ELTChat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:39 |
@shaznosel I can think of many Czech sts that would disagree with that :-) #eltchat |
| divyabrochier |
11:39 |
RT @bethcagnolA guy did a market research study here in France and found that the price of training has not gone up with inflation. #eltchat |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:39 |
@pacogascon yes but communication is mostly spoken not written, #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:39 |
@vbenevolofranca It's the practice that is the hardest bit to make interesting / motivating /real etc. #eltchat |
| hoprea |
11:39 |
@pacogascon @warnhopepark @bethcagnol That's one of the things that characterise CA, but it's still not the same as immersion. #ELTChat |
| shaznosel |
11:39 |
@Marisa_C Research or no research, as teachers we know that the ss respond and recall tbl lessons rather than ppp and enjoy! #eltchat |
| profesorM |
11:39 |
RT @pacogascon: Being a communicative teacher does not equal using a communicative approach #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:39 |
RT @Gapfillers: Bring chaos theory to #English language teaching http://bit.ly/pwHHOG #esl #efl #tefl #eltchat #elt |
| web2literacy |
11:40 |
@fionamau yes and where is the time for that when they have to produce so quickly #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:40 |
@Zwrzi dont't forget the #ELTchat hashtag :-) |
| harrisonmike |
11:40 |
@Dru_Step ...strong writers, weak speakers and vice versa #eltchat |
| warnhopepark |
11:40 |
@hoprea @pacogascon @bethcagnol I agree, I mean CA couldn't be totally immersive & still be a lesson, you may as well just chat #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:40 |
@Dru_Step I would imagine! Good mix to have I think. I had almost the same (but at elem) with my ESOL class this yr - #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:40 |
RT @Zwrzi: @vbenevolofranca @Marisa_C @hoprea And P4, which is "Pray" for Ss to understand what you're teaching them! :D #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:40 |
@Zwrzi Lol #eltchat - I like that |
| fionamau |
11:40 |
@web2literacy: #eltchat @tarabenwell role plays.sts feel less secure #eltchat >In real life, we often rehearse conversations in our minds.. |
| pacogascon |
11:40 |
@Shaunwilden @shaznosel Im not that sure, in fact were writing and reading now! #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:40 |
@pacogascon yeah but most teachers do it as an extra effort they aware of writing importance #eltchat |
| TESOL_Assn |
11:40 |
RT @Marisa_C: Have you voted for this Wednesday's #ELTchat? I have! Please proceed to the voting station and RT :-D http://bit.ly/npEqL8 |
| PrettyButWise |
11:41 |
RT @pacogascon: @PrettyButWise speaking comes first, but in a culturally mediated world writing is as important as managing oral skills #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
11:41 |
RT @Marisa_C: @shaznosel PPP gives a lot of short lived satisfaction :-D True! The day after it's all gone!!!!!!!!! #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:41 |
@divyabrochier Sorry. Maybe I should delete that tweet. ;-) #ELTCHAT |
| onetooneteacher |
11:41 |
@warnhopepark @hoprea @pacogascon @bethcagnol great point yes #eltchat |
| divyabrochier |
11:41 |
@antoniaclare I agree and I think it comes from the misconception that when we're communicative it's just like everyday life #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:41 |
@pacogascon totally agree and it's important even for muscles ! #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:41 |
@PrettyButWise speaking comes first, but in a culturally mediated world writing is as important as managing oral skills #eltchat |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:41 |
Ive had Asian sts who score AΒ΄s for grammar and written English and canΒ΄t speak #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
11:41 |
@Shaunwilden Isnt that because it is the way they expect to be taught?? #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:41 |
The market research for France is in French, but it's worth a read! http://t.co/txkHHsb #ELTCHAT |
| fionamau |
11:41 |
RT @pacogascon: @CeciELT @PrettyButWise sure you can make writing related tasks interesting #eltchat |
| mkofab |
11:42 |
How would WE like to learn a new language? What worked for us ? #eltchat |
| hoprea |
11:42 |
#ELTChat Be it PPP, ESA, ARC, or anything else, the core belief is that we expect them to use it to communicate - hence, CA. :-) |
| PrettyButWise |
11:42 |
@pacogascon writing is important as the others skills .. agree with u #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:42 |
@Zwrzi no worries - retweeted - that was a great tweet #eltchat |
| samshep |
11:42 |
@Marisa_C @shaznosel Cambridge entirely to blame, perhaps? #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:42 |
RT @divyabrochier:I agree and I think it comes from the misconception that when we're communicative it's just like everyday life #eltchat |
| Dru_Step |
11:42 |
@ElsaVelma @CeciELT #ELTChat But prob is some teachers think CA is better without expectations or relevance explained so sts unenthusiastic |
| Zwrzi |
11:42 |
@Marisa_C I'm sorry! There should have been an #eltchat for dummies, like me! |
| Shaunwilden |
11:42 |
@shaznosel A bit I just dont think it's that B&W some sts will like TBL some PPP etc etc - I'd choose what works for a class #eltchat |
| linguaprof |
11:42 |
#eltchat I don't see PPP in antagonism with #CLT, Practice doesn't mean only controlled, restricted use GRAMMAR practice |
| BlackCatCideb |
11:42 |
RT @Ilotimo: NEW POST: Skype in Classroom http://bit.ly/lrJyRC #skype #edtech #edchat #finnedchat #eduswe #eltchat #ukedchat #cpchat |
| samshep |
11:43 |
@warnhopepark @hoprea @pacogascon @bethcagnol this suggests a lot of teacher control #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:43 |
@mkofab CA #eltchat |
| mkofab |
11:43 |
@web2literacy haha! #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:43 |
RT @mkofab: How would WE like to learn a new language? What worked for us ? #eltchat >I know I watch videos, but some sts still like grammar |
| fionamau |
11:43 |
RT @pacogascon: @Shaunwilden @shaznosel Im not that sure, in fact were writing and reading now! #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:43 |
@mkofab I'd choose CA #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
11:43 |
RT @Marisa_C: @samshep Possibly - not sure - also a lot of poor celta training - easy to control etc etc #eltchat I'm with you there |
| bethcagnol |
11:43 |
Perhaps there's still a confusion about CA b/c countries still C a mix in who takes it on & who's "been there done that." #ELTCHAT |
| web2literacy |
11:43 |
@Marisa_C yes ppp is a cornerstone but often this model is too neat and tidy for teaching #eltchat |
| NoraTouparlaki |
11:43 |
@mkofab I'd choose #eltchat |
| Dru_Step |
11:43 |
@harrisonmike #eltchat We had great results last year. This year management separated Internationals & ESOL, results & satisfaction fell |
| Marisa_C |
11:43 |
@samshep Possibly - not sure - also a lot of poor celta training - easy to control etc etc #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:43 |
RT @hoprea: #ELTChat Be it PPP, ESA, ARC, or anything else, the core belief is that we expect them to use it to communicate - hence, CA. :-) |
| Shaunwilden |
11:43 |
RT @hoprea: #ELTChat Be it PPP, ESA, ARC, or anything else, the core belief is that we expect them to use it to communicate - hence, CA. :-) |
| divyabrochier |
11:43 |
#eltchat and when we try too hard to make it like everyday life the elements of a lesson fall apart, and RT@hoprea a lesson is a lesson |
| sandymillin |
11:44 |
@eannegrenoble thanks! #eltchat |
| CeciELT |
11:44 |
@Dru_Step @ElsaVelma Really??? Personally in any approach I think it essential to know where we are and where we are going. #ELTChat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:44 |
@sandymillin Oops - not four threads but four strands - http://bit.ly/n3jZBu pulls things together IMO #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
11:44 |
@Marisa_C Even had this from moderators! #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:44 |
@Marisa_C @SueAnnan And for that I'd blame CELTA tutors :-) #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
11:44 |
@Shaunwilden Agree ..some of my adult classes need the PPP approach but accept tbl..acceptance of a method is important..#eltchat |
| lu_bodeman |
11:44 |
RT @hoprea: #ELTChat Be it PPP, ESA, ARC, or anything else, the core belief is that we expect them to use it to communicate - hence, CA. :-) |
| Marisa_C |
11:44 |
@SueAnnan I know centres who have never heard anything but the PPP dialogue presentation #eltchat |
| onetooneteacher |
11:44 |
I would have liked to learn a language using michel thomas but hey that's just me #eltchat |
| web2literacy |
11:45 |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat With the explosion of authentic use of language on the internet, and tools for lang input/practice, PPP will die out...RIP |
| Marisa_C |
11:45 |
@SueAnnan Really ! shocking #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
11:45 |
RT @shaznosel: @Shaunwilden teens and YL s accept tbl..acceptance of a method is important..#eltchat |
| fionamau |
11:45 |
RT @pacogascon: @PrettyButWise speaking comes first, but in a culturally mediated world writing is as important as managing oral skills #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:45 |
@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @SueAnnan Whoa. Easy there Shaun. #ELTCHAT |
| warnhopepark |
11:45 |
@samshep @hoprea @pacogascon @bethcagnol Yes, I prob need to work on this, tend to be a bit of a control freak in general :) #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:45 |
Anyway, I guess no one follows a single approach. You take the best of those u know according to ur ss #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:45 |
@SueAnnan Yes, its an 'easy' method to teach etc etd #eltchat |
| lu_bodeman |
11:45 |
RT@harrisonmike @hoprea Is PPP good at directing students to participate in 'authentic' communication? >> good question #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:45 |
RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat W/the explosion of authentic use of lang on the internet, and tools for lang input/practice, PPP will die out RIP |
| ElsaVelma |
11:45 |
@CeciELT Agreed :) #eltchat |
| web2literacy |
11:45 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @shaznosel good point #eltchat |
| fionamau |
11:45 |
RT @web2literacy yes and where is the time for that when they have 2 produce quickly #eltchat > Give sts thinking time? B4 roleplay at least |
| fceblog |
11:45 |
Writing with a target reader in mind is an instance of communication. I mean, regardless of the approach or method, isn't that so? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:45 |
@Shaunwilden I m wiv you on that one - and he who approves them and hires them is also to blame for that tho #eltchat |
| samshep |
11:45 |
@divyabrochier @hoprea a lesson is a learning opportunity. if learners can notice language then a chat can be valuable. #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
11:45 |
@Shaunwilden pushing it? #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:45 |
@shaznosel good point #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:45 |
#eltchat With the explosion of authentic use of language on the internet, and tools for lang input/practice, PPP will die out...RIP |
| harrisonmike |
11:45 |
@hoprea What's ESA? #eltchat |
| CELT_Athens |
11:45 |
RT @Marisa_C: Have you voted for this Wednesday's #ELTchat? I have! Please proceed to the voting station and RT :-D http://bit.ly/npEqL8 |
| warnhopepark |
11:46 |
@pacogascon This is really important, not to be rigid in an approach and to listen to the learners #eltchat |
| onetooneteacher |
11:46 |
@pacogascon yes, it's not about being a Dogme teacher or a CA teacher - you use what works for students surely #eltchat |
| tarabenwell |
11:46 |
RT @hoprea: @harrisonmike ESA = Engage, Study, Activate - it's @Harmerj 's. #ELTChat |
| harrisonmike |
11:46 |
@hoprea Aaaah! #eltchat cheers, Rick! |
| Marisa_C |
11:46 |
@Shaunwilden Nuffink - you are perfectly entitled to say anything ya like #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:46 |
RT @hoprea: @harrisonmike ESA = Engage, Study, Activate - it's @Harmerj 's. #ELTChat |
| warnhopepark |
11:46 |
RT @pacogascon: Anyway, I guess no one follows a single approach. You take the best of those u know according to ur ss #eltchat |
| samshep |
11:46 |
@SueAnnan @Marisa_C was just thinking of the terminology in the teaching criteria for the course #eltchat |
| CeciELT |
11:46 |
Have to finish the placement #damnyoutimedifference :-( Will prob miss the rest of #ELTChat - Will catch the summary! |
| SueAnnan |
11:46 |
@Marisa_C I agree entirely #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:46 |
@bethcagnol What did I do? #eltchat |
| hoprea |
11:46 |
@harrisonmike ESA = Engage, Study, Activate - it's @Harmerj 's. #ELTChat |
| Notyetlanguage |
11:46 |
RT @sandymillin: 179 #eltpics added today: something for everyone! Take a look and see what you can use... http://bit.ly/eXmK4O #eltchat #efl #elt #esl #tefl |
| Marisa_C |
11:47 |
@Shaunwilden I second what you said - know this first hand #eltchat |
| CeciELT |
11:47 |
@Makere31 @pacogascon Yes! Body lang suuuper important. Just watched a video of me interviewing some1 last week. I gesture A LOT!#ELTChat |
| lu_bodeman |
11:47 |
RT@hoprea @harrisonmike ESA = Engage, Study, Activate - it's @Harmerj 's. #ELTChat >> didn't know that either |
| antoniaclare |
11:47 |
@pacogascon Yes, I think this is now important #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:47 |
@Marisa_C Thanks moderator :-) As a CELTA tutor and assessor and past employer of many I stand by what I sad :-) #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
11:47 |
@samshep Cambridge to blame for what..not clear here?? #eltchat |
| linguaprof |
11:47 |
#eltchat and what do we do with the Logical & Studious learner, who always want to know the rules and like to "build" their system? |
| pacogascon |
11:47 |
@warnhopepark gueaa thats what we all do #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:47 |
@samshep you mean in the syllabus? Doesn't say anything about PPP! #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:47 |
@CeciELT RT #damnyoutimedifference #ELTCHAT |
| PrettyButWise |
11:47 |
RT @pacogascon: Anyway, I guess no one follows a single approach. You take the best of those u know according to ur ss #eltchat |
| carlaraguseo |
11:47 |
RT @fceblog Writing with a target reader in mind is an instance of communication. (...) , isn't that so? #ELTchat <<Absolutely! |
| pacogascon |
11:47 |
Do you think CA should also cater for digital competence nowadays? #eltchat |
| web2literacy |
11:47 |
RT @cherrymp: RT @missnoor28: Interesting Teacher Training Videos created via @russell1955 - http://bit.ly/bjg3C #edtech #ESL #EFL #ELT #edchat #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:48 |
@bethcagnol Am not trying to offend them - just pushing a few buttons ;-) #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
11:48 |
@CeciELT only TEN MORE minutes? #ELTChat |
| onetooneteacher |
11:48 |
@linguaprof we give him Murphy ;-) #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:48 |
@antoniaclare and do u train ss into digital competence uin a foreign lang? #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:48 |
@linguaprof #eltchat we direct them to places where they can learn about this (books, web tools, videos etc) and help them in class too |
| hoprea |
11:48 |
#ELTChat Dogme, CLT, TBL and others are based on the Communicative Approach. That's why I agree with Marisa when she asked 2 leave Dogme out |
| CeciELT |
11:48 |
@bethcagnol Help!!!!! I can't get way... have been away from #ELTChat for months....!!!!!!!! They can't take it away from me!!!!! lol |
| harrisonmike |
11:48 |
I like this: put sts in a situation where they want to communicate (or have to, in a nice way), see wat happens, analyse, note-take #eltchat |
| Dru_Step |
11:48 |
@CeciELT #ELTChat Totally agree. Sadly many of my sts have experienced chat for no reason and therefore reluctant. |
| shaznosel |
11:49 |
RT @hoprea: #ELTChat Dogme, CLT, TBL and others are based on the Communicative Approach. That's why I agree wi… (cont) http://deck.ly/~JaWJ5 |
| hoprea |
11:49 |
@bethcagnol @Marisa_C Same here! #ELTChat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:49 |
@linguaprof i would ask them to survey the internet and try to find it themselves then will check what they find ;p #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:49 |
RT @POWERORGmath: @harrisonmike Great point. They just need to communicate in their own way. So authentic and ideas flow #eltchat <peeking in> |
| bethcagnol |
11:49 |
@Marisa_C #OHsoreadytopackmybags. Would love to be your trainee. #ELTCHAT |
| fionamau |
11:49 |
RT @harrisonmike: I like this: put sts in a situation where they want to communicate (or have to, in a nice way), see wat happens, analyse, note-take #eltchat |
| ElsaVelma |
11:49 |
@CeciELT Haha I think it is the inevitable habit of an ESL teacher to gesture wildly with every word.. I sure do it too :) #eltchat |
| POWERORGmath |
11:49 |
@harrisonmike Great point. They just need to communicate in their own way. So authentic and ideas flow #eltchat <peeking in> |
| mkofab |
11:49 |
@linguaprof GIve them grammar! I think I would like that, even when I was "immersed" in new language environment #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:49 |
So: PSiaSwTWtCSWHANT #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:50 |
RT @Marisa_C: @Zwrzi Hear hear - the power of context - we should THANK CLT for that !!!!! Context is god #eltchat |
| samshep |
11:50 |
@Marisa_C references to presentation of language, controlled practice freer practice etc. not prescriptive but suggestive. #eltchat |
| fceblog |
11:50 |
@carlaraguseo Serously wondering about an example when writing is not communicative. A private diary? #ELTchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:50 |
@Zwrzi Hear hear - the power of context - we should THANK CLT for that !!!!! Context is god #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:50 |
@CeciELT Let me know when you're back online and I'll send you an #ELTBOOTYSHAKE link. #ELTCHAT |
| web2literacy |
11:50 |
RT @antoniaclare: @pacogascon I think we can incorporate it in what we do, direct them to sites, help them make videos, blogs etc #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:50 |
RT @antoniaclare: @pacogascon I think we can incorporate it in what we do, direct them to sites, help them make videos, blogs etc #eltchat |
| Zwrzi |
11:50 |
@linguaprof Teach them grammar inductively. Context for the communicative Ss and theory later for the logical ones. #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:50 |
@pacogascon I think we can incorporate it in what we do, direct them to sites, help them make videos, blogs etc #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:50 |
@bethcagnol ha ha ha - say when :-) #OHsoreadytopackmybags #ELTCHAT |
| eltbakery |
11:50 |
PLNs and PLEs - It's the 'Personal' bit that counts the most http://bit.ly/j4zF74 Great post via @grahamstanley #eltchat #breltchat #edchat |
| Dru_Step |
11:51 |
#eltchat heard this week that 'warmers' at start of class when sts speak about personal stuff is the most useful & natural comm in the class |
| bethcagnol |
11:51 |
@divyabrochier @Marisa_C @hoprea Now that would be FUN! #ELTCHAT #Ithinkweareoffsubject |
| pacogascon |
11:51 |
@antoniaclare @web2literacy UE is currently testing secondary students digital competeces and the failure rate is surprisingly high #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:51 |
@divyabrochier Looking for the right building and accommodation already :-D #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:51 |
RT @hoprea: #ELTChat Going back to the beginning, IMHO, CA is a lot more related to our beliefs towards teaching and learning than to techniques we use. |
| shaznosel |
11:51 |
@Marisa_C Context - I agree it is the base!! #eltchat |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:51 |
RT @divyabrochier: RT @Marisa_C: @Zwrzi Hear hear - the power of context - we should THANK CLT for that !!!!! Context is god #eltchat |
| hoprea |
11:51 |
#ELTChat Going back to the beginning, IMHO, CA is a lot more related to our beliefs towards teaching and learning than to techniques we use. |
| bethcagnol |
11:51 |
@samshep @warnhopepark @hoprea @pacogascon Thanks. Bookmarked. #ELTCHAT |
| PrettyButWise |
11:51 |
RT @harrisonmike: I like this: put sts in a situation where they want to communicate (or have to, in a nice way), see wat happens, analyse, note-take #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:51 |
RT @samshep: @Marisa_C references to presentation of language, controlled practice freer practice etc. not prescriptive but suggestive. #eltchat |
| warnhopepark |
11:51 |
RT @onetooneteacher "we give him Murphy ;-)" @linguaprof #eltchat LOL!!!! |
| divyabrochier |
11:51 |
RT @Marisa_C: @Zwrzi Hear hear - the power of context - we should THANK CLT for that !!!!! Context is god #eltchat |
| BrunoLeys |
11:51 |
RT @DaveDodgson: From @OUPELTGlobal Do you use humour in the classroom? http://bit.ly/lXMVGf #ELTchat |
| ShellTerrell |
11:51 |
Just Feel the Music… http://bit.ly/l6vsQK #eltchat by @sabridv |
| DaveDodgson |
11:51 |
By @sabridv Just Feel the Music… http://bit.ly/l6vsQK #ELTchat |
| web2literacy |
11:52 |
@Dru_Step the personal stuff ends with the warmers that's the problem #eltchat |
| fionamau |
11:52 |
RT @divyabrochier: RT @Marisa_C: @Zwrzi Hear hear - the power of context - we should THANK CLT for that !!!!! Context is god #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:52 |
RT @Dru_Step: #eltchat 'warmers' at start of class when sts speak about personal stuff is the most useful & natural comm in the class>agree |
| divyabrochier |
11:52 |
@samshep nice one #eltchat |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:52 |
RT @onetooneteacher: @pacogascon yes, it's not about being a Dogme teacher or a CA teacher - you use what works for students surely #eltchat |
| samshep |
11:52 |
@divyabrochier ss can be taught to be hyperaware of what they are hearing & analytical of their learning - going "meta" if u like. #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:52 |
UE is currently testing secondary students digital competece and the failure rates are surprisingly high #eltchat |
| fionamau |
11:52 |
RT @fceblog: @carlaraguseo A private diary? #ELTchat > You're still communicating - intrapersonally, talking 2 yrself ;-) |
| divyabrochier |
11:52 |
RT @hoprea: #ELTChat Going back to the beginning, IMHO, CA is a lot more related to our beliefs towards teachi… (cont) http://deck.ly/~JfAQ5 |
| mkofab |
11:52 |
RT @Dru_Step: #eltchat heard this week that 'warmers' at start of class when sts speak about personal stuff is the most useful & natural comm in the class |
| Shaunwilden |
11:52 |
RT @Dru_Step: #eltchat heard this week that 'warmers' at start of class when sts speak about personal stuff is the most useful & natural comm in the class |
| hoprea |
11:53 |
@web2literacy @Dru_Step Not necessarily. A warmer can be just the continuation of a chat students were having b4 teacher stepped in #ELTChat |
| antoniaclare |
11:53 |
@web2literacy @Dru_Step I thnk we need to make sure rest of lesson also has real communication tho' #eltchat |
| divyabrochier |
11:53 |
RT @samshep: ss can be taught to be hyperaware of what they are hearing & analytical of their learning - going "meta" if u like. #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
11:53 |
RT @web2literacy: #eltchat my ppp is personalise personalise personalise #eltchat |
| web2literacy |
11:53 |
#eltchat my ppp is personalise personalise personalise #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:53 |
@Zwrzi the power of context - we should THANK CLT for that>> especially when REAL context is in the classroom learning English #eltchat |
| Dru_Step |
11:53 |
@web2literacy #eltchat how so? |
| Shaunwilden |
11:53 |
RT @web2literacy: @Dru_Step the personal stuff ends with the warmers that's the problem #eltchat Was about to say the same :-) |
| harrisonmike |
11:53 |
@Dru_Step Remember, not all sts will want to talk about personal stuff (cud be asylum seekers, live in poor conditions) #eltchat |
| onetooneteacher |
11:53 |
CA for me isn't really an approach it's just common sense - cut speaking out of language learning and you're back in the Dark Ages #eltchat |
| carlaraguseo |
11:54 |
RT @fceblog When it's just homework without a clear purpose... #ELTchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:54 |
@harrisonmike #eltchat Real communication doesn't always have to be 'talk about yourself' - it is voicing your opinion on stuff |
| mkofab |
11:54 |
RT @pacogascon: @onetooneteacher But I dont necessarily associate CA to spoken skills, really, it has to do with using lang 2 communicate #eltchat |
| web2literacy |
11:54 |
@Dru_Step because waremers and ends of lessons are often seen as the bit for personal stuff and then left out after that #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
11:54 |
@onetooneteacher But I dont necessarily associate CA to spoken skills, really, it has to do with using lang 2 communicate #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:54 |
Core tenant isn't it? RT @web2literacy: #eltchat my ppp is personalise personalise personalise #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:54 |
@divyabrochier I think may be ALL approaches claim communication as their end - but it's CLT that looks at language in a diff way #ELTChat |
| lu_bodeman |
11:54 |
gotta go, in the faculty room w/other t's, unable to continue...will read summary later #eltchat |
| divyabrochier |
11:54 |
RT @web2literacy: #eltchat my ppp is personalise personalise personalise #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:55 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @web2literacy @Dru_Step Yes often after the warmer you hear ' ok let's start the lesson' :-) #eltchat>> Good grief :-O |
| Dru_Step |
11:55 |
@harrisonmike #eltchat I don't think personal has to be *deeply* personal... silly personal topics often work best. 'Talk about your shoes' |
| Zwrzi |
11:55 |
@eannegrenoble What if the context is all around you in an English speaking country? Some Ss get lost. #eltchat |
| web2literacy |
11:55 |
@Shaunwilden bang on :) #eltchat |
| warnhopepark |
11:55 |
@web2literacy I do agree but then you get s/s who are funny about talking about themselves, think T is prying etc, what to do? #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:55 |
@antoniaclare No, I agree. I was about to add that - thanks for putting it more eloquently than I could! #eltchat |
| pjgallantry |
11:55 |
#eltchat very belated good evening to all - have had a MONSTER fortnight and my laptop decided to break down as well, hence my absence :( |
| shaznosel |
11:55 |
@web2literacy At the end of the day..everyone loves talking abt themselves - how communicative is that!#eltchat |
| divyabrochier |
11:55 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat yes and it has shaped so much of the teacher I am today but it took a few years and an MA to get there |
| Shaunwilden |
11:55 |
@web2literacy @Dru_Step Yes often after the warmer you hear ' ok let's start the lesson' :-) #eltchat |
| hoprea |
11:55 |
#ELTChat We believe in CA because that's what we need language for these days - to communicate. That's how SLA theories evolved. |
| fionamau |
11:55 |
RT @harrisonmike: @Dru_Step not all sts will want to talk about personal stuff #eltchat > Dreams and imagination are also personal stuff... |
| warnhopepark |
11:56 |
RT @Dru_Step: @harrisonmike #eltchat I don't think personal has to be *deeply* personal... silly personal topics often work best. 'Talk about your shoes' |
| harrisonmike |
11:56 |
RT @Dru_Step: @harrisonmike #eltchat I don't think personal has to be *deeply* personal... silly personal topics often work best. 'Talk about your shoes' |
| samshep |
11:56 |
baby crying, toddler wandering. Have to skip out - have enjoyed this - thanks all. #eltchat |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:56 |
something topical -in the news, or contoversial is always good to get the tongues waggin #eltchat |
| Dru_Step |
11:56 |
@web2literacy #eltchat gotcha... I think they are an example of how to get sts speaking naturally however. it's a start. |
| harrisonmike |
11:56 |
@Dru_Step I like 'tell us what you had for breakfast' c/o @LukeMeddings #eltchat |
| divyabrochier |
11:56 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat which is why @hoprea and @bethcagnol and I are going to come train in Greece?:)) |
| tarabenwell |
11:56 |
It is only when you use language to say things which are true about you do you start to 'own' the new language via @Harmerj #ELTChat |
| web2literacy |
11:56 |
@shaznosel right and how do we encourage sts to produce language from within - how do we connect learning to their lives? #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:56 |
@hoprea agree L nowadays is a meduim of communication #eltchat |
| fionamau |
11:56 |
RT @antoniaclare: @harrisonmike #eltchat Real communication doesn't always have to be 'talk about yourself' - it is voicing your opinion on stuff |
| Marisa_C |
11:56 |
@Dru_Step agree - deeply personal is not always comfortable - but relevance is key #eltchat |
| linguaprof |
11:56 |
#eltchat one problem is that SS who like and use CL learn on their own, so most of our adult students are not big CLT fans |
| divyabrochier |
11:56 |
@Marisa_C #eltchat I think it would be great if it were accessible in much more concrete terms to new teachers |
| fceblog |
11:56 |
RT @hoprea CA is a lot more related to our beliefs towards teaching and learning than to techniques we use. #ELTchat & the results we get. |
| eannegrenoble |
11:57 |
@Zwrzi The whole difference between EFL and ESP in fact #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:57 |
@divyabrochier but not about why you are unemployed or your relationship - agree #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:57 |
RT @divyabrochier: @Marisa_C #eltchat which is why @hoprea and @bethcagnol and I are going to come train in Greece?:)) |
| fionamau |
11:57 |
@Shaunwilden @web2literacy @Dru_Step Often BEFORE the warmer you hear ' ok, before we start, let's...' :-) #eltchat |
| Dru_Step |
11:57 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @web2literacy @Dru_Step Yes often after the warmer you hear ' ok let's start the lesson' :-) #eltchat Yes, sadly |
| carlaraguseo |
11:57 |
@fceblog When it's just homework without a clear purpose... #ELTchat |
| divyabrochier |
11:57 |
RT @Dru_Step:#eltchat I don't think personal has to be *deeply* personal... silly personal topics often work best. 'Talk about your shoes' |
| fceblog |
11:57 |
@hoprea But I would disagree with considering CA *anything* that leads to conversation class. It's the process, the steps. #ELTchat |
| eannegrenoble |
11:57 |
@Zwrzi Good point - wsn't thinkg about that ! #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
11:57 |
Bye Sam =) RT @samshep: baby crying, toddler wandering. Have to skip out - have enjoyed this - thanks all. #eltchat |
| onetooneteacher |
11:57 |
@linguaprof yes, once taught an 83 year old deaf french bloke who said of another class - i don't want to play these games!! #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
11:58 |
@eannegrenoble Good ESP practice is why we have CLT and good ESP is strong CLT (did this sound cryptic enough?) #eltchat |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:58 |
RT @ElsaVelma: RT @Dru_Step I like 'tell us what you had for breakfast' > coffee and cigarettes #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
11:58 |
RT @web2literacy: @shaznosel how do we encourage sts to produce language from within - how do we connect learning to their lives? #eltchat |
| hoprea |
11:58 |
#ELTChat I highly recommend reading Stephen Bax's "The end of CLT" which was published a while ago in ELT Journal. http://bit.ly/qDbevm |
| aClilToClimb |
11:58 |
#dogme = communication + grammar + vocabulary + pronunciation: Wine on a carousel #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:58 |
@hoprea @divyabrochier @Marisa_C #thatsrealsweetofyouthanks. #ELTCHAT |
| ElsaVelma |
11:58 |
RT @Dru_Step I like 'tell us what you had for breakfast' > You can also get some culturally interesting answers there!! #eltchat |
| eyespeakbrasil |
11:59 |
RT @PrettyButWise: thatΒ΄s how i learnt (am learning) #eltchat |
| divyabrochier |
11:59 |
RT @SueAnnan: RT @Marisa_C: @bethcagnol Jesus! #ELTCHAT #nononono |
| SueAnnan |
11:59 |
RT @Marisa_C: @bethcagnol Jesus! #ELTCHAT #nononono |
| Marisa_C |
11:59 |
@bethcagnol Jesus! #ELTCHAT #nononono |
| harrisonmike |
11:59 |
@fionamau @Shaunwilden @web2literacy @Dru_Step and after the warmer 'now let's get on to the lesson...' ?? #eltchat |
| PrettyButWise |
11:59 |
we learn a L 2 communicate and the 1st stages 2 communicate r speakin & listening then writing & reading that's y CA z the best ! #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
11:59 |
@web2literacy The only way to connect is to understand their lives ..not easy when so varied..relate and encourage production..#eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
11:59 |
@Marisa_C @divyabrochier Ugh. I was a reporter for a coursebook who asked questions like that (why are you out of work). #ELTCHAT #nononono! |
| fionamau |
12:00 |
RT @harrisonmike: @Dru_Step #eltchat What's yr favourite ice cream flavour goes fr miles - ask @chucksandy ! |
| Marisa_C |
12:00 |
@bethcagnol Yikes! Cool! Especially if your boss is learning in the same group :-D #ELTCHAT |
| sandymillin |
12:00 |
RT @bethcagnol: @Marisa_C #OHsoreadytopackmybags. Would love to be your trainee. #ELTCHAT me too :) |
| eyespeakbrasil |
12:00 |
RT @hoprea: #ELTChat I highly recommend reading Stephen Bax's "The end of CLT" which was published a while ago in ELT Journal. http://bit.ly/qDbevm |
| PrettyButWise |
12:00 |
@aClilToClimb sorry what dogme means i don't get it ? #eltchat |
| onetooneteacher |
12:00 |
or that all time CA classic question: 'Have you ever seen a ghost?' what's with the faith in the supernatural? #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
12:00 |
@Marisa_C Yeah, and "turn to your neighbor and ask them about difficulties you've had with management." #ELTCHAT |
| Shaunwilden |
12:00 |
@harrisonmike really I've heard it loads when I've observed #eltchat |
| uniquelanguages |
12:00 |
RT @Dru_Step: #eltchat heard this week that 'warmers' at start of class when sts speak about personal stuff is the most useful & natural comm in the class |
| web2literacy |
12:00 |
@shaznosel I agree it's not easy but I think students really open up when you do. #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
12:00 |
RT @shaznosel: @web2literacy Relate and encourage production..#eltchat > I was going to say focus on sts producing the language more ;) |
| Marisa_C |
12:01 |
RT @hoprea: #ELTChat(...) Stephen Bax's "The end of CLT" which was published a while ago in ELT Journal. http://bit.ly/qDbevm |
| onetooneteacher |
12:01 |
@harrisonmike @Shaunwilden oh dearie me lol #eltchat |
| linguaprof |
12:01 |
#eltchat has anyone tried a CLT teacher for learning a foreign language? |
| bethcagnol |
12:01 |
@Marisa_C That's what I wrote in my report.Utterly ludicrous! #ELTCHAT |
| divyabrochier |
12:01 |
RT @shaznosel: @antoniaclare I guess we have to put ourselves in their shoes. Tchg goes form CA to psychology..#eltchat |
| web2literacy |
12:01 |
@shaznosel e.g. Sts kep photo-diary for two weeks and then brought pics into class we talked about them - oh they spoke so much #eltchat |
| eannegrenoble |
12:01 |
RT @hoprea: #ELTChat(...) Stephen Bax's "The end of CLT" which was published a while ago in ELT Journal. http://bit.ly/qDbevm>>many thanks |
| harrisonmike |
12:01 |
RT @fionamau: RT @harrisonmike: @Dru_Step #eltchat What's yr favourite ice cream flavour goes fr miles - ask @chucksandy ! |
| harrisonmike |
12:01 |
LOL RT @Shaunwilden: @onetooneteacher My fave is tell your partner the last time you were in a van #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
12:01 |
@antoniaclare I guess we have to put ourselves in their shoes. Tchg goes form CA to psychology..#eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:01 |
@onetooneteacher My fave is tell your partner the last time you were in a van #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
12:02 |
@linguaprof My exp of Spanish at uni was pretty CLT - I learnt from scratch (tho with the grounding of French before) #eltchat |
| divyabrochier |
12:02 |
#eltchat i have to go to bed, am examining at the crack of dawn and i hate cracking dawns |
| tarabenwell |
12:02 |
Today I remembered to follow the #ELTChat tweeters. I sometimes forget to do that. Found some interesting new ones. Thanks! |
| pacogascon |
12:02 |
@linguaprof Not me, behaviourism was the trend where I learnt English #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:02 |
@onetooneteacher @harrisonmike I can't remember which cbk it was in though #eltchat |
| Zwrzi |
12:02 |
@onetooneteacher Ts have to be careful on everything. Some of my male Ss were insulted 'cause they were put in groups with females. #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
12:02 |
RT @web2literacy: @shaznosel Sts kep photo-diary for 2 weeks and then brought pics into class we talked about them - spoke so much #eltchat |
| warnhopepark |
12:02 |
@onetooneteacher Had such a cool conversation on this topic last wk, s/s told me about astral projecting monks in Thailand! #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
12:03 |
@divyabrochier Let me know when you're free for coffee at Nespresso on the Champs E. #ELTCHAT |
| mkofab |
12:03 |
@pacogascon same here. WE BEGGED our teacher for some grammar rules ! Haha #eltchat |
| SueAnnan |
12:03 |
Thanks everyone. Great Moderators as always. Looking forward to next week #ELTchat |
| web2literacy |
12:03 |
@shaznosel or use their mobiles #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:03 |
@bethcagnol Hear hear for @hoprea 's comeback :-) #ELTCHAT #ELTCHAT |
| pacogascon |
12:03 |
@harrisonmike @linguaprof handy grounding... #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
12:03 |
@linguaprof learnt the most/became the most comfortable when I got to live in Spain for a couple of yrs n had to communicate #eltchat |
| shaznosel |
12:03 |
@web2literacy Love the idea..if they don't have a camera then pic s they can relate to from newspapers etc.##eLTCHAT |
| hoprea |
12:03 |
Many thanks for a great #ELTChat I really needed it! :-) |
| bethcagnol |
12:03 |
@Marisa_C It's been a lovely #ELTCHAT. So happy to have @hoprea back. But gotta get back to work. Pulling a semi-all-nighter. #ELTCHAT |
| eyespeakbrasil |
12:03 |
@divyabrochier excuse me #eltchat |
| Marisa_C |
12:03 |
@divyabrochier Cheers and hope you join next week's chat too :-) #eltchat |
| harrisonmike |
12:04 |
Great #eltchat all - Thanks @Marisa_C and @Shaunwilden for ace moderation, as always. Great chatting with you all |
| Shaunwilden |
12:04 |
@onetooneteacher Arh but the writer thought it set context for the reading that followed :-) #eltchat |
| pacogascon |
12:04 |
@harrisonmike so did u really find the approach useful when u had to use Spanish in real communication? #eltchat |
| sarah_SKB |
12:04 |
thanks everyone - interesting chat! #eltchat |
| onetooneteacher |
12:04 |
@Shaunwilden RAC training course perhaps! - that's a really nuts question #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:04 |
@harrisonmike Oh yes, will try and find it but its a few years ago #eltchat |
| antoniaclare |
12:05 |
RT @shaznosel: #ELTCHAT..Very communicative everyone! Good night and thanks xx Good night ;) |
| web2literacy |
12:05 |
@shaznosel You could set up a class photo sharing group on Flickr or create a class blog- this could be a year long project #eltchat |
| ElsaVelma |
12:05 |
Thanks for the ideas everyone, this was my first #eltchat! :) |
| pacogascon |
12:05 |
@Dru_Step same for me... exhausted :) #eltchat |
| Shaunwilden |
12:05 |
RT @Marisa_C: Are you all still here ? #eltchat's over ! ok ok we're off - havent you got some marking to do? :-) |
| vbenevolofranca |
12:05 |
Thanks for #eltchat today following mostly rather than tweeting & made me reflect quite a lot. |
| eannegrenoble |
12:05 |
@Marisa_C even more cryptic - mine was a reply to in ... #eltchat |
| bethcagnol |
12:05 |
@divyabrochier Um......#ELTCHAT |
| divyabrochier |
12:05 |
#eltchat thank you everyone for all the inspiration |
| shaznosel |
12:05 |
#ELTCHAT..Very communicative everyone! Good night and thanks xx |
| eyespeakbrasil |
12:05 |
RT @harrisonmike: #eltchat all - Thanks @Marisa_C and @Shaunwilden for ace moderation, as always. Great chatting with you all - second that! |
| harrisonmike |
12:05 |
@pacogascon I found when I was in a situation when I had to communicate, the language was properly activated #eltchat |
| aClilToClimb |
12:05 |
@PrettyButWise #dogme is a materials-light way of teaching #eltchat |
| Dru_Step |
12:05 |
Wow. First time I've sat in on a whole #eltchat. My eyes are fuzzy. Phew |
| Marisa_C |
12:05 |
Are you all still here ? #eltchat's over ! |
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