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Project Work in EFL Classrooms (Themes, Stategies,Resources)

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#ELTchat transcript for June 22nd 2011 21.00 P.M. 

 

username

date

time

status

eannegrenoble

22/6/2011

11:00

RT @Marisa_C: Who is here for #ELTchat ? Hi all !-)

colorincolorado

22/6/2011

11:00

We're putting together a new section on policy & ELLs. Any particular topics or questions you'd like to see included? #ellchat #eltchat #ell

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:00

Me too! Hello everyone! #ELTchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:00

Hi all #eltchat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:01

getting things started by also watching @ShellTerrell's webinar http://t.co/DBlpak1 #eltchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:01

@web2literacy Hi if you need any help ask me or @Marisa_C  #eltchat

SueannaN

22/6/2011

11:01

RT @CeciELT: RT @bethcagnol: For the next hour my tweets will be devoted to #ELTCHAT. > Mine too!!!

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:01

@CeciELT It's not as fast but it works alright. Tried it once! Gr8 to have you here! #ELTchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:01

RT @CeciELT: RT @bethcagnol: For the next hour my tweets will be devoted to #ELTCHAT. > Mine too!!!

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:01

@sssSaMar @worldteacher Hi and welcome  #eltchat

SueannaN

22/6/2011

11:01

@web2literacy  hello #eltchat

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:01

Me too and new to #eltchat - Hi everyone

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:01

@Marisa_C Here for #eltchat

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:01

RT @bethcagnol: For the next hour my tweets will be devoted to #ELTCHAT. > Mine too!!!

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:02

@sedayyildirim Welcome  #eltchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:02

So shall we talk projects? #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:02

Welcome to all #ELTchat on Project work in EFL - your modetators @Shaunwilden @riberni and me - if you need any help just let us know

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:02

@lu_bodeman You multi-tasker you :-) #eltchat

sedayyildirim

22/6/2011

11:02

@Marisa_C yeap :) #eltchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:03

@bethcagnol no project work!4 #ELTCHAT

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:03

Shall we get going? #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:03

@bethcagnol No that was lunch time sorry #eltchat

SueannaN

22/6/2011

11:03

Are we talking projects for all or mainly teens?#ELTchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:03

@Shaunwilden Let's go #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:03

@Shaunwilden What's the topic?  Is it about the benefits of joining international ELT associations? (please please please) #ELTCHAT

esolcourses

20/6/2011

11:03

RT @AlexandraKouk RT @grahamstanley: Some great reflections on PLNs by @CeciELT http://tinyurl.com/3plzufe #aPLaNet #ELTchat

SueannaN

22/6/2011

11:04

@Shaunwilden  thanks #ELTchat

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:04

A big difficulty I have is SS complaining they don't have much time to do big projects #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:04

So what do we mean when we say sth is a Project ? #ELTchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:04

iTunes just played three consecutive ELT coursebook audio tracks on shuffly. "Model Test 2...track5...page10" ARG! Can't escape! #ELTCHAT

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:04

RT @SueAnnan: Are we talking projects for all or mainly teens?#ELTchat I'd say in general Sue

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:04

Topic today is Project Work in the EFL classroom #ELTchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:05

Projects are collaborative #ELTchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:05

RT @Shaunwilden: @bethcagnol this is  lunchtime transcript on associations http://bit.ly/lBkEnH #ELTchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:05

RT @Shaunwilden: @bethcagnol this is  lunchtime transcript on associations http://bit.ly/lBkEnH #ELTchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:05

@bethcagnol I missed it to! #ELTCHAT

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:05

@evab2001 HI Eva! Great to C U here. #ELTCHAT

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:05

@bethcagnol this is  lunchtime transcript on associations http://bit.ly/lBkEnH #ELTchat

JoeMcVeigh

22/6/2011

11:05

How big does something have to be in order to be considered a project rather than an assignment? Any other distinctions? #ELTchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:05

@CeciELT mini-projects great #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:05

@Fuertesun Oh....now I feel silly. Oops. Guess the Association one was for this afternoon. #ELTCHAT

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:05

So I have been experimenting with many mini projects instead #eltchat

Dawg_Houston

22/6/2011

11:05

What's the deal #eltchat ?

BethCagnol

21/6/2011

11:05

@richardosborne1 @sarah_wg Hey guys, don't forget to join us for #ELTCHAT tomorrow. If you want I can walk you through it.

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:06

@lu_bodeman inal project incorporating contents and objectives? #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:06

RT @Marisa_C: ... but not just homework #ELTchat Agreed projects work best in and out of class

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:06

@Marisa_C Sts will have to do research and collect info. but agree with @JoeMcVeigh, when is it a project & when an assignment? #ELTchat

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:06

@Fuertesun Yes Leahn, and easier to convince ALL students to do.... But do they substitute a big one effectively? I have my doubts. #eltchat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:06

Project based Learning means that the project is the class, doesn't it? #eltchat

JoeMcVeigh

22/6/2011

11:06

Does a project HAVE to be collaborative? #ELTchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:06

@Shaunwilden CRAP! I'm SO angry at myself for missing that #ELTCHAT on Associations. Will add comments to summary when it's out. #ELTCHAT

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:06

... but not just homework #ELTchat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:06

So what do we mean when we say sth is a Project ? #ELTchat >> a display of task outcome

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:06

@Fuertesun too #ELTCHAT

SueannaN

22/6/2011

11:06

I've got some teens who are 'too cool for school'. Think there are any projects to motivate them? #ELTchat

eannegrenoble

22/6/2011

11:06

RT @JoeMcVeigh: How big does something have to be in order to be considered a project rather than an assignment? Any other distinctions? #ELTchat

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:07

RT @JoeMcVeigh: Does a project HAVE to be collaborative? #ELTchat >I think it's more useful if it is!

JoeMcVeigh

22/6/2011

11:07

@Marisa_C  Begins and ends in classroom, but can include out of class work, right? #ELTchat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:07

Integrated with blended learning - so in/out of the classroom, yes? #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:07

I know one university here that gets students to put together a portfolio of questions they get asked during internship interviews. #ELTCHAT

eannegrenoble

22/6/2011

11:07

RT @lu_bodeman: So what do we mean when we say sth is a Project ? #ELTchat >> a display of task outcome  I'd go with that :-)

teacher_prix

22/6/2011

11:07

#ELTChat A bit late... What are we discussing today?

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:07

Summer school is a great place to do project work & yes, @SueAnnan  teens love them!! #eltchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:07

@CeciELT Yes I think they do...  #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:07

@JoeMcVeigh Usually it is understood to be collaborative and begins and ends in the classroom  #ELTchat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:07

RT@CeciELT A big difficulty I have is SS complaining they don't have much time to do big projects #eltchat >> here too

barbarabujtas

22/6/2011

11:08

projects involve planning, collaboration, execution, constant evaluation, reflection, end product, display

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:08

How is a project not collaborative ?? #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:08

@teacher_prix How to do projects in EFL classrooms (themes, strategies, resources, etc.) #ELTCHAT

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:08

RT @Shaunwilden: RT @JoeMcVeigh: Does a project HAVE to be collaborative? #ELTchat I dont think it does, class can have ind projects according to interests

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:08

@eyespeakbrasil  yes widen beyond the classroom inside and out #eltchat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:08

RT @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C: ... but not just homework #ELTchat projects work best in and out of class >> agreed!!

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:08

@JoeMcVeigh Right  #ELTchat

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:08

RT @JoeMcVeigh: Does a project HAVE to be collaborative? #ELTchat > Not necessarily, but its a great opportunity 4 it! #eltchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:08

RT @JoeMcVeigh: Does a project HAVE to be collaborative? #ELTchat I dont think it does, class can have ind projects according to interests

fionamau

22/6/2011

11:09

RT @web2literacy: @Fuertesun  makes the borders of the classroom more porous - a two-way bridge #eltchat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:09

@barbarabujtas Agreed #eltchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:09

RT @web2literacy: @Fuertesun  makes the borders of the classroom more porous - a two-way bridge #eltchat

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:09

RT @barbarabujtas: projects involve planning, collaboration, execution, constant evaluation, reflection, end product, display

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:09

@Fuertesun  makes the borders of the classroom more porous - a two-way bridge #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:09

@eannegrenoble @lu_bodeman I think projects can also be ongoing - added on from year to year with different groups. #ELTCHAT

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:09

@eyespeakbrasil suppose ss could do individual projects wrking alone #eltchat

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:10

@Shaunwilden @eyespeakbrasil But is that a project or an assignment? Or is there no difference? #ELTchat

barbarabujtas

22/6/2011

11:10

I teach mostly one-to-one, projects are individual, displayed in social media

evab2001

22/6/2011

11:10

RT @CeciELT: RT @JoeMcVeigh: Does a project HAVE to be collaborative? #ELTchat > Not necessarily, but its a great opportunity 4 it! #eltchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:10

@eyespeakbrasil Though I guess it depends on what we mean by collaborative  - in the set up or the task itself #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:10

Does a project HAVE to have an end? #ELTCHAT

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:10

RT @barbarabujtas: projects involve planning, collaboration, execution, constant evaluation, reflection, end product, display

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:10

@Shaunwilden Agreed and really projects need to be collaborative I would argue #eltchat

teacher_prix

22/6/2011

11:10

@bethcagnol Thx! =) #ELTchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:10

It may involve out-of-class research or work and collaboration can also go beyond the classroom nowso o much eaiser with skype etc #ELTchat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:10

Ss enjoy when we show enthusiasm for doing project work, and offer opportunities, instead of just prescriptive work #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:10

@gecorner Miles Davis, Deadmau5, Dave Matthews..Depends on how fast you type.  ;-)  #ELTCHAT

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:10

RT @barbarabujtas: projects involve planning, collaboration, execution, constant evaluation, reflection, end product, display

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:10

@eyespeakbrasil Go make  a glog on your favourite popstar for example is not necessarily  collaborative #eltchat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:11

What calls my attn is presentation skills...should these matter? #eltchat

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:11

RT @bethcagnol: Does a project HAVE to have an end? #ELTCHAT > If not why do it? SS most times need to know the end to want to get there

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:11

@DinaDobrou  I project is ongoing, soI dont thinkit fits the assignment category  #ELTchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:11

RT @bethcagnol: Does a project HAVE to have an end? #ELTCHAT > NO but it's good if it has a tangible outcome

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:11

RT @bethcagnol: Does a project HAVE to have an end? #ELTCHAT - good question.....

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:11

@DinaDobrou Well i would argue they could be the same #eltchat

harrisonmike

22/6/2011

11:12

RT @esolcourses: @worldteacher @CeciELT @JoeMcVeigh @Shaunwilden IME not all students want to do collaborative projects, + it Isn't always practical #ELTChat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:12

RT @esolcourses: @worldteacher @CeciELT @JoeMcVeigh @Shaunwilden IME not all students want to do collaborative projects, + it Isn't always practical #ELTChat

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:12

@worldteacher @CeciELT @JoeMcVeigh @Shaunwilden IME not all students want to do collaborative projects, + it Isn't always practical #ELTChat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:12

@barbarabujtas  Depending on the project  #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:12

@lu_bodeman If the project involves some sort of presentation then it might  #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:12

I think it would be interesting to have a school project that gets updated by next year's students. Version 2.0 so to speak. #ELTCHAT

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:12

@bethcagnol If sts need sth to display, doesn't it? #ELTchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:12

@lu_bodeman yes  #eltchat

barbarabujtas

22/6/2011

11:12

@DinaDobrou @Shaunwilden @eyespeakbrasil  aproject is more complex #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:13

@TOEFLzone As always - with everything they do (in class and in life). But the teacher also needs to be ready to invest. #ELTCHAT

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:13

@barbarabujtas @DinaDobrou @eyespeakbrasil well I'll disagree so what's the definition ;-) #eltchat

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:13

@worldteacher @CeciELT @JoeMcVeigh @Shaunwilden making ind. projects part of a wider group or class projects is an alternative #ELtChat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:13

@bethcagnol Why would you want to have an ongoing project from one course to the next - it's interesting  #ELTCHAT

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:13

RT @lu_bodeman: What calls my attn is presentation skills...should these matter? #eltchat > Even if they don't… (cont) http://deck.ly/~PxDyM

JoeMcVeigh

22/6/2011

11:13

@bethcagnol such as a guide to local restaurants, etc. Middlebury College French School students update a guide to Montreal yearly #ELTchat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:13

Shy ss can do gr8 work but can't stand the pressure of exposing themselves in class #eltchat

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:13

@esolcourses  agreed, projectc can be personal, can't they? #eltchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:13

Projects work well in primary children learn to work together be part of a group, share etc #eltchat

evab2001

22/6/2011

11:13

Does a project have to solve a problem? #eltchat sometimes the word frightens sts thinking they have 2 cr8 sth big

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:13

@gecorner if you decide you want to say sth then add #eltchat to your tweet but it's fine to lurk

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:13

@gecorner Try Count Basie. #ELTCHAT

WriteAbilityJRD

22/6/2011

11:13

RT @rliberni: English Attack! revolutionizes English language learning: http://t.co/YeqwSGH via @addthis #eltchat #efl #esl #esol #edchat

eyespeakbrasil

20/6/2011

11:13

Everyone communicates but not everyone connects http://bit.ly/iO59cq  #besig #tesol #elt #tesol #eltchat

harrisonmike

22/6/2011

11:14

@esolcourses @CeciELT @Shaunwilden @JoeMcVeigh ClichΓ© perhaps, but I've always wanted to do a class newspaper...never seen it thru #eltchat

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:14

@CeciELT @web2literacy @Fuertesun @worldteacher agree projects are good for collaboration, but also think it depends on learners #ELTChat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:14

Project work, works well with CLIL #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:14

@Marisa_C Internally, in a school, kids can relate 2 their peers. They can update work done in previous years. Example... #ELTCHAT

evab2001

22/6/2011

11:14

RT @BethCagnol: I think it would be interesting to have a school project that gets updated by next year's students. Version 2.0 so to speak. #ELTCHAT

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:14

To me a project is valued for it's identity as well - a group of students is proud to be associated with some end result #ELTchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:14

@barbarabujtas @DinaDobrou @eyespeakbrasil for me takes some of class time, autonomous , over time #eltchat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:14

RT @eyespeakbrasil: When I was at school we decided to make a movie, and the entire school became involved. and it lasted 2 years #eltchat

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:14

RT @bethcagnol: I think it would be interesting to have a school project that gets updated by next year's students.  #ELTCHAT > Like it

wagjuer

22/6/2011

11:14

RT @yearinthelifeof: From my new YouTube channel - Who wants to be a Millionaire PowerPoint http://t.co/UbfbgIr good for spicing up grammar quizzes #eltchat

LukeMeddings

22/6/2011

11:14

when does a task become a project? #eltchat

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:14

@esolcourses Agreed, but thinking of a multi-lingual situation collaborative projects are a great way to get sts interacting #eltchat

mtechman

22/6/2011

11:14

RT @BethCagnol: I think it would be interesting to have a school project that gets updated by next year's students. Version 2.0 so to speak. #ELTCHAT

jasonoutthere

21/6/2011

11:14

100+ social language learning websites #esl #elt #tefl #efl #esol #elearning #tesol #eltchat #iatefl #studyenglish http://bit.ly/liAG8r

EnglishOutThere

21/6/2011

11:14

100+ social language learning websites #esl #elt #tefl #efl #esol #elearning #tesol #eltchat #iatefl #studyenglish http://bit.ly/liAG8r

antoniaclare

22/6/2011

11:15

#eltchat Hi everyone - projects sound fun!  wld love to chat but have a workbook to write :(

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:15

It;s an opportity for s's to work together, and share ideas,  real collaboration yeah? Very poweful! #eltchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:15

@esolcourses I like project work with YLs not keen on it with adults or teens  #ELTChat

didolores

22/6/2011

11:15

http://t.co/GtBS5me A great online conference coming up. Excited! #elt #efl #eltchat

barbarabujtas

22/6/2011

11:15

projects are lifelike #eltchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:15

@harrisonmike Oh that was one of my first class projects many years ago, then we made a news program :-) #eltchat

warnhopepark

22/6/2011

11:15

@Fuertesun #eltchat but what about when group members won't participate? That's what I found hardest about project work w/ adult s/s

SueannaN

22/6/2011

11:15

@harrisonmike  I did breakfast TV once #eltchat

BenjaminEllis

22/6/2011

11:15

@bethcagnol @mtechman Love that idea! Would teach so many things. #ELTCHAT

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:15

@LukeMeddings  a task is more bordered with a specific objective - perhaps? #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:15

@JoeMcVeigh Exactly! #ELTCHAT

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:15

@evab2001 I don't think projects HAVE to solve a problem. Those are usually the most engaging for my SS though #eltchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:15

@gecorner Imagine that they have to go home and ask parents questions or do research #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:15

RT @JoeMcVeigh: @bethcagnol such as a guide to local restaurants, etc. Middlebury College French School students update a guide to Montreal yearly #ELTchat

barbarabujtas

22/6/2011

11:16

@antoniaclare could you include projects :)

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:16

@LukeMeddings When it takes longer to complete & you need to step in as a T & offer guidance more often than when assigning a task? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:16

RT @cybraryman1: My Cooperative and Collaborative Learning page: http://tinyurl.com/y8odpfu #eltchat #elemchat> thanks Jerry!

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:16

@benjaminellis @mtechman Thanks Mr. Ellis. #ELTCHAT

cybraryman1

22/6/2011

11:16

My Cooperative and Collaborative Learning page: http://tinyurl.com/y8odpfu #eltchat #elemchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:16

@CeciELT How nice  #eltchat

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:16

@barbarabujtas  yeh, they link to the lives of the learners, meaningful not just prescriptive or pedagogic #eltchat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:16

@bethcagnol  Like that - with video, reflection #ELTCHAT

warnhopepark

22/6/2011

11:16

@harrisonmike #eltchat I have a lesson for making a class newspaper in 90 mins funnily enough! Used to be on my site but down temporarily!

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:16

RT @lu_bodeman: Shy ss can can't stand the pressure of presenting #eltchat > I have had SS film the presentation at home and show in class.

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:16

Sts who go in for interviews create an internal document of the Qs they R asked, the companies and how they responded. #ELTCHAT

eyespeakbrasil

20/6/2011

11:16

Connecting with students during the summer - summertech http://bit.ly/j9kZGT  #tesol #eltchat #edchat #esl

sandymillin

20/6/2011

11:16

Summer school ideas from @sandymillin and @fruehstyck on the IH Teachers blog http://bit.ly/lY4fTa #eltchat #yltsig #efl #esl #esol #tesol

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:17

@Marisa_C And is a task a project? #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:17

@eyespeakbrasil Re: reflection, the sts have the summer to reflect (or the vacations, if they wish). Subconsciously if they wish. #ELTCHAT

IslingtonEMAS

22/6/2011

11:17

Our online course has modules on bilingualism, #refugees , African Caribbean achievement and NEW Traveller Gypsy Roma starting soon #ELTChat

evab2001

22/6/2011

11:17

I belive T should guide the project well and in order 2 prevent copy paste or laziness, sts can bring the work 2gether in class #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:17

A task requires more effort and challenge than an activity #ELTchat

barbarabujtas

22/6/2011

11:17

RT @cybraryman1: My Cooperative and Collaborative Learning page: http://tinyurl.com/y8odpfu #eltchat #elemchat #eltchat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:17

I like the idea of news programmes, newsletters as projects. Did that a couple of times #eltchat

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:17

@Marisa_C No excuses not to present! #eltchat

hakan_sentrk

22/6/2011

11:17

RT @AndreaBudding: What would would you like to talk about in #ELTChat - 2 HRS TO GO! http://twtpoll.com/ncseaw

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:18

@antoniaclare  Nice ! #eltchat

cybraryman1

22/6/2011

11:18

@lu_bodeman News show worked very well with my students.  http://tinyurl.com/48pyrsn #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:18

@lu_bodeman @CeciELT 11mn late on this question: why do sts complain they don't have time. Is it really true? #ELTCHAT

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:18

@Fuertesun prefer to do them with teens myself, but think a lot depends on the topic. All s's need to be interested 4 it to work #ELTChat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:18

@Marisa_C Yes I know  - am still trying to pin down what people say is a 'project' #eltchat

antoniaclare

22/6/2011

11:18

@barbarabujtas Excellent idea!  Actually we have projects - getting students to make podcasts related to the topic of unit.  #eltchat

eannegrenoble

22/6/2011

11:18

RT @lu_bodeman: I like the idea of news programmes,  Did that a couple of times #eltchat > we do these as tasks in class

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:18

RT @bethcagnol: Sts who go in for interviews create an internal doc of the Qs  asked, the companies & how they responded #ELTCHAT >Nice 4 BE

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:18

@Shaunwilden  The 'tasks' are inbuilt into the planning, decision making made by st's yes?  #eltchat

evab2001

22/6/2011

11:18

RT @Marisa_C: A task requires more effort and challenge than an activity #ELTchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:18

@Shaunwilden Not necessarily - was answering the question difference btwn task and activity  #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:18

@eyespeakbrasil Let me clarify on last tweet: I think reflection is absolutely necessary. #ELTCHAT

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:18

@gecorner  connect the lives of the learners to their classroom learning #eltchat

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:18

RT @lu_bodeman: I like the idea of news programmes, newsletters as projects. Did that a couple of times #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:19

Who here is thinking about adding a competitive element to projects. I'm considering it for September. #ELTCHAT

AndreaBudding

22/6/2011

11:19

RT @bethcagnol: @lu_bodeman @CeciELT 11mn late on this question: why do sts complain they don't have time. Is it really true? #ELTCHAT

nubiadivina1

22/6/2011

11:19

agreed RT @barbarabujtas: projects involve planning, collaboration, execution, evaluation, reflection, end product, display

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:19

@bethcagnol  Not motivated, or engaged enough  yes? #ELTCHAT

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:19

@antoniaclare  very nice! #eltchat

antoniaclare

22/6/2011

11:19

#eltchat I think it's nice if projects can be individual sometimes, with sts working on them out of class, and others collaborative

barbarabujtas

22/6/2011

11:19

@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C stms students take projects more seriously than everyday tasks #eltchat

JoeMcVeigh

22/6/2011

11:19

OUP has a book series with the title Project. They sponsored a student proj. poster competition, but I can't find  link to results  #ELTchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:19

RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Yes I know  - am still trying to pin down what people say is a 'project' #eltchat > me too

Sarah_WG

22/6/2011

11:19

RT @harrisonmike #eltchat I've always wanted to make an American style yearbook with my students. Print off as gifts in the end.

baibbb

21/6/2011

11:19

RT @EnglishOutThere 100+social language learning websites #esl #elt #tefl #efl #esol #elearning #tesol #eltchat http://t.co/g1C6bd3

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:20

@SueAnnan I would see it as adding motivation. And the prize would be something worth fighting for. #ELTCHAT

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:20

@harrisonmike #eltchat I've always wanted to make an American style yearbook with my students. Print off as gifts in the end. > Cool

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:20

@bethcagnol Projects have a competitive element at my summer school - really motivating for the teens #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:20

@bethcagnol Collaboration within a group does not cancel out competition against other groups   #ELTCHAT

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:20

@CeciELT It's nice for BE, but the school that does it here is an engineering school. Just FYI. #ELTCHAT

SueannaN

22/6/2011

11:20

@bethcagnol  wouldn't that add pressure? #ELTCHAT

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:20

@bethcagnol  Game based learning can be very competitive - a project is more collaborative, right? #ELTCHAT

LisaTaner

22/6/2011

11:20

RT @IslingtonEMAS: Our online course has modules on bilingualism, #refugees , African Caribbean achievement and NEW Traveller Gypsy Roma starting soon #ELTChat

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:20

@bethcagnol @lu_bodeman Many times they do have little free time for a big project....it would demand some sacrifice #eltchat

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:21

@bethcagnol Group projects or individual sts projects? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:21

@Marisa_C I like the 'drawing everything together' element in your definition  #eltchat

antoniaclare

22/6/2011

11:21

RT @bethcagnol: Who is thinking about adding a competitive element to projects. I'm considering it for September. #ELTCHAT > choc 4 the best

harrisonmike

22/6/2011

11:21

@Sarah_WG Sounds cool! Our students seem to be dwindling in numbers ATM - no impetus for project work to finish off the year =( #eltchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:21

RT @Yohimar: It should involve community, parents as well #eltchat It sounds nice but I would say could rather than should

JoeMcVeigh

22/6/2011

11:21

How do you grade/assess collaborative projects when group members put in different amounts of effort? #ELTchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:21

RT @LukeMeddings: when does a task become a project? #eltchat

pjgallantry

22/6/2011

11:21

#eltchat evening all - what have I missed so far? :)

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:21

RT @Yohimar: It should involve community, parents as well #eltchat > with YLs it's always a good idea

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:21

@Marisa_C Is  aproject a longer piece of work that culminates in a final task which draws evrything tgether? #eltchat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:21

@Yohimar  That's an interesting idea - I like that!  #eltchat

yohimar

22/6/2011

11:21

It should involve community, parents as well #eltchat

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:22

RT @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Yes I know  - am still trying to pin down what people say is a 'project' #eltchat

barbarabujtas

22/6/2011

11:22

@JoeMcVeigh make sure they have different responsibilit y areas #eltchat

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:22

I think a project is something that needs more preparation, research, steps... and with a final product to show. #eltchat

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:22

@harrisonmike @CeciELT @Shaunwilden @JoeMcVeigh did a class newspaper once with a group of Spanish teens... worked well #ELTChat

evab2001

22/6/2011

11:22

@CeciELT me too Ceci, cannot persuade my colleagues, can u come here and tell them no solution necessary #eltchat LOL :)

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:22

@DinaDobrou Use Bubblr and Bookr for producing 'memory books' . Always popular. #eltchat

AndreaBudding

22/6/2011

11:22

@bethcagnol  Cool! How would you determine the winner?  #ELTCHAT

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:22

@pjgallantry bit of this bit if that, a couple of tweets  you know the usual kind of #eltchat thing :-)

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:22

@JoeMcVeigh Great question.... #ELTchat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:22

@JoeMcVeigh  no  grading - it;s the process that counts in my opinion  #ELTchat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:22

How should we go about helping them with presentation skills? Do U "teach" these in your lessons? #eltchat

harrisonmike

22/6/2011

11:23

A project could be as simple as send us all (T and Sts) a link to a YouTube vid that you like. Come to class ready to tell us why. #eltchat

Berylaube

22/6/2011

11:23

RT @cybraryman1: My Cooperative and Collaborative Learning page: http://tinyurl.com/y8odpfu #eltchat #elemchat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:23

I could see ESL schools competing with each other  - a global 'project based' competition  would be fun! #eltchat

pjgallantry

22/6/2011

11:23

#eltchat has anyone used the European Language Portfolio as the basis for creating a project portfolio?

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:23

@CeciELT Engineering BE, as in Biology BE, and International Journalism BE.  ;-) (just messin' witcha) #ELTCHAT

socialoptic

22/6/2011

11:23

@LukeMeddings @bethcagnol A task becomes a project when it is more than one task :) - Although a milestone is somewhere in between #eltchat

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:23

@Marisa_C I think differentiation is the spice of project work #eltchat

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:23

RT @AndreaBudding: @bethcagnol  Cool! How would you determine the winner?  #ELTCHAT > Good question

teacher_prix

22/6/2011

11:23

@JoeMcVeigh I like to spli grades: 1 for overall work and 1 for indivdual #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:23

Does a project need to have the same outcome from all Ss or is it a good idea to include differentiation, e.g. as in a class paper? #eltchat

Shaunwilden

20/6/2011

11:23

RT @sandymillin: Summer school ideas from @sandymillin and @fruehstyck on the IH Teachers blog http://bit.ly/lY4fTa #eltchat #yltsig #efl #esl #esol #tesol

kalinagoenglish

22/6/2011

11:24

@shaunwilden busy beyond belief, and missing twitter and u guys and #eltchat very much :)

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:24

@harrisonmike  absolutely, like sharing music videos maybe embed in a class blog #eltchat

pjgallantry

22/6/2011

11:24

RT @Marisa_C Does a project need to have the same outcome or is it a good idea to include differentiation? #eltchat >definitely differntiate

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:24

@LukeMeddings Depends on level, age group and linguistic competence - demands may vary acc to those parameters #ELTchat

didolores

22/6/2011

11:24

A question: Do you think third grade ss are too young to evaluate themselves or the materials they're using? #elt #efl #eltchat

barbarabujtas

22/6/2011

11:24

RT @eyespeakbrasil: I could see ESL schools competing with each other  - a global project based competition  would be fun! #eltchat

yohimar

22/6/2011

11:24

True! It includes well  planning RT @Marisa_C: A task requires more effort and challenge than an activity #ELTchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:24

@DinaDobrou @AndreaBudding A school here determines the winner with a jury of the DOS, teachers, sts, #ELTCHAT

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:24

@harrisonmike is that a project or an activity? #eltchat

hayleyjess

22/6/2011

11:24

RT @cybraryman1: My Cooperative and Collaborative Learning page: http://tinyurl.com/y8odpfu #eltchat #elemchat

Berylaube

22/6/2011

11:24

RT @cybraryman1: Wed Chats Part I: #ELTchat (2) #ClavEd #ntchat #ptchat #libchat #stdntchat #yalitchat : http://tinyurl.com/3uwsgyk

Sarah_WG

22/6/2011

11:24

RT @eyespeakbrasil: @JoeMcVeigh  no  grading - it;s the process that counts in my opinion  #ELTchat > Yes!

kalinagoenglish

22/6/2011

11:24

@marisa_c @shaunwilden here's notes on a workshop I went to, plus a project for businessEn learners #eltchat http://ow.ly/5o8Wr (2008)

CCK11Feeds

21/6/2011

11:24

Love this prezi on listening.. After Ten Years, We're Breaking Up: A Sad Day #CCK11 #ELTchat ... | @scoopit http... http://bit.ly/keNdkI

pjgallantry

22/6/2011

11:25

#eltchat project work involves not only using language to complete task but also reporting on the task itself=reflective learning

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:25

@warnhopepark  Yeah it would be fascinating I think. #eltchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:25

RT @Marisa_C: Can't ssee your user names on Tweetdck - acting up on me #ELtchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:25

@Shaunwilden I say a project is a process by which the students can decide on the steps, critical elements, tasks within project. #ELTCHAT

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:25

Can't ssee your user names on Tweetdck - acting up on me #ELtchat

AndreaBudding

22/6/2011

11:25

RT @bethcagnol: A school here determines the winner with a jury of the DOS, teachers, sts, #ELTCHAT ->sts vote: I like that!!

warnhopepark

22/6/2011

11:25

@eyespeakbrasil That sounds cool! ESL Projects Championships! #eltchat

barbarabujtas

22/6/2011

11:25

RT @kalinagoenglish: @marisa_c @shaunwildennotes on a workshop, plus a project for businessEn learners #eltchat http://ow.ly/5o8Wr  #eltchat

teacher_prix

22/6/2011

11:25

@JoeMcVeigh I like to *spliT grades: 1 for overall work and 1 for indivdual #eltchat

harrisonmike

22/6/2011

11:25

#eltchat RT @harrisonmike: @Fuertesun Project if the whole class have to report on it - could go on for 2 + lessons

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:25

@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C one definition of a project: a piece of work with a unified theme, that has an end product, e.g presentation #ELTChat

CCK11Feeds

21/6/2011

11:25

Love this prezi on listening.. After Ten Years, We're Breaking Up: A Sad Day #CCK11 #ELTchat ... | @scoopit http... http://bit.ly/ltfw5R

yohimar

22/6/2011

11:26

a project is a set of sistematic tasks!  @Shaunwilden: @Marisa_C Yes I know.. trying to pin down what people say is a 'project' #eltchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:26

RT @BethCagnol: @LukeMeddings I think a project contains several tasks in order to reach a certain goal (end point or ongoing). #ELTCHAT

Sarah_WG

22/6/2011

11:26

Projects themes that allow students to present in their own individual styles from presentations to videos to songs and more. #eltchat

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:26

@harrisonmike With YLs I like to run the project part over the whole course - 30 mins project work per lesson #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:26

@LukeMeddings I think a project contains several tasks in order to reach a certain goal (end point or ongoing). #ELTCHAT

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:26

Thanks for all the definitions :-) #eltchat

evab2001

22/6/2011

11:26

inspired from a reading text in our CB, I assigned my sts 2 write 20 page stories in 2 months and best stories will be ebooks , #eltchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:26

@kalinagoenglish Aye it's the busy time of year, glad u could pop in today :-) #eltchat

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:26

@kalinagoenglish @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C great minds think alike, Karenne - though not sure it needs to run for that long #ELTChat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:26

Outcome is important, sth students can be proud of and witness their development #eltchat

sedayyildirim

22/6/2011

11:27

I'm quite interested in projects but I find them too confusing :s morever, plenty of time needed !  #eltchat

teacher_prix

22/6/2011

11:27

RT @lu_bodeman: Outcome is important, sth students can be proud of and witness their development #eltchat -> True! Validation!

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:27

RT @Marisa_C: The classic book on Project Work - some of it can be read online on Google books http://bit.ly/mLOPA0 #ELTchat

antoniaclare

22/6/2011

11:27

RT @evab2001: inspired from a reading text in CB, sts 2 write 20 page stories in 2 months and best stories will be ebooks , #eltchat - nice!

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:27

The classic book on Project Work - some of it can be read online on Google books http://bit.ly/mLOPA0 #ELTchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:27

@AndreaBudding And there are several rounds to the competition. Round 1 with 35 groups, Round 2 with 10 groups, and so on. #ELTCHAT

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:27

@Sarah_WG  go with that one #eltchat

antoniaclare

22/6/2011

11:27

RT @web2literacy:  absolutely, like sharing music videos maybe embed in a class blog #eltchat >u had nice activity for that Richard

pjgallantry

22/6/2011

11:28

#eltchat so, what are the stages of establishing, mentoring, producing presenting and evaluating a project?

SueannaN

22/6/2011

11:28

RT @harrisonmike: Learning English is a pretty big project ;o) As is teaching it ;o) ;o) #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:28

Lots of different definitions #Eltchat but most agree it should be collaborative, varied and integrate a variety of language skills?

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:28

RT @esolcourses: With adult s's, patchy attendance patterns an make projects a challenge.  Can be hard to keep the flow going sometimes #ELTchat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:28

@worldteacher  Cool idea!  #eltchat

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:28

@sedayyildirim  yep and plenty of planning #eltchat

harrisonmike

22/6/2011

11:28

Learning English is a pretty big project ;o) As is teaching it ;o) ;o) #eltchat

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:28

With adult s's, patchy attendance patterns an make projects a challenge.  Can be hard to keep the flow going sometimes #ELTchat

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:28

@bethcagnol @AndreaBudding Sounds fair. Or maybe other classes/levels can vote too? #ELTchat

LukeMeddings

22/6/2011

11:28

RT @BethCagnol: @Shaunwilden I say a project is a process by which the students can decide on the steps, critical elements, tasks within project. #ELTCHAT

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:28

@AndreaBudding The sts "media" is invited to cover the final round of project presentations. #ELTCHAT

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:28

RT @evab2001: ...., I assigned my sts 2 write 20 page stories in 2 months and best stories will be ebooks , #eltchat >Great idea!

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:29

@DinaDobrou @AndreaBudding I think it's up 2 the sts, in the beginning. & the school of course. Every step should B collaborative. #ELTCHAT

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:29

@Shaunwilden So since autonomy is involved there should also be some choice involved for the learenrs #eltchat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:29

@Shaunwilden  Especially if they're competing internationally  #eltchat

warnhopepark

22/6/2011

11:29

RT @harrisonmike: Learning English is a pretty big project ;o) As is teaching it ;o) ;o) #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

22/6/2011

11:29

@fuertesun very true Leahn, I got 'round that by creating "teams" to work on diff aspects #eltchat

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:29

RT @Marisa_C: .... #Eltchat but most agree it should be collaborative, varied and integrate a variety of language skills? > Absolutely!

AndreaBudding

22/6/2011

11:29

RT @bethcagnol: Cool!  Love the 'media' idea, too. What about non-competitive/defeatist personalities? Are they motivated? #ELTCHAT

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:29

@bethcagnol A trip to Brazil??? ;-P #eltchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:29

@Marisa_C Yes and motivational #eltchat

harrisonmike

22/6/2011

11:29

@bethcagnol A potato! #eltchat

eannegrenoble

22/6/2011

11:29

@harrisonmike I agree totally ! #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:29

@CeciELT For a huge school project I know of here, guess what the grand prize is for the winning group of 5 sts? #ELTCHAT

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:30

@harrisonmike And wait till you try Greek! :P #ELTchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:30

@kalinagoenglish I was a bit confused there! #eltchat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:30

A BESIG project based intl competition would be just great! #eltchat #besig

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:30

RT @harrisonmike: Learning English is a pretty big project ;o) As is teaching it ;o) ;o) #eltchat ] yep. Would agree with you there :-)

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:30

@AndreaBudding You will get those personalities everywhere. #ELTCHAT

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:30

@Marisa_C Yes I think so but also autonomy in using their own research skills etc #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

22/6/2011

11:30

@esolcourses oops, that was your comment not @fuertesun ...#eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:30

@CeciELT BINGO!!!!  A bo''le of red wine for you! #ELTCHAT

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:30

RT @bethcagnol: @LukeMeddings I think a project contains several tasks in order to reach a certain goal (end point or ongoing). #ELTCHAT

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:30

RT @Marisa_C: The classic book on Project Work - some of it can be read online on Google books http://bit.ly/mLOPA0 #ELTchat

harrisonmike

22/6/2011

11:31

@Marisa_C And negotiation of end project #eltchat That's part of BC pressie (me @pysproblem81 @amandalanguage & @calliewallie1) video soon!

AndreaBudding

22/6/2011

11:31

RT @bethcagnol: @AndreaBudding You will get those personalities everywhere. #ELTCHAT --> Good point :)

teacher_prix

22/6/2011

11:31

@Marisa_C And cater for various learner styles and profiles! #ELTChat

teacher_prix

22/6/2011

11:31

@Marisa_C And cater for various learner styles and profiles! #ELTChat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:31

RT@bethcagnol @CeciELT Ss are WAY too involved in their reg schools. English can get neglected, esp if project is 2 time-consuming #eltchat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:31

RT@bethcagnol @CeciELT Ss are WAY too involved in their reg schools. English can get neglected, esp if project is 2 time-consuming #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:32

@CeciELT Red or white? #ELTCHAT

evab2001

22/6/2011

11:32

RT @esolcourses: RT @bethcagnol: @LukeMeddings I think a project contains several tasks in order to reach a certain goal (end point or ongoing). #ELTCHAT

antoniaclare

22/6/2011

11:32

RT @Notyetlanguage: Projects when students make their own commercials, either as video clips or roleplays, are always fun:) #ELTchat >agree

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:32

@lu_bodeman @CeciELT I would then incorporate the project into their other subjects (what I negotiate with the sts). #ELTCHAT

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:32

@teacher_prix yes, absolutely #ELTchat - differentiation and accommodation of different leverls of ability also a built in feature

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:32

@kalinagoenglish LOL! never mind.  Project link looks interesting. Thanks! Have bookmarked it for later #ELTChat

Notyetlanguage

22/6/2011

11:32

Projects when students make their own commercials, either as video clips or roleplays, are always fun:) #ELTchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:32

A cool task for a project would be to designate students to deal with the Gantt diagram. http://t.co/i2r4sfQ #ELTCHAT

harrisonmike

22/6/2011

11:32

@DinaDobrou Next is maybe Turkish! Or relearning German #eltchat

CCK11Feeds

20/6/2011

11:32

Love this prezi on listening.. After Ten Years, We're Breaking Up: A Sad Day #CCK11 #ELTchat ... | @scoopit http... http://bit.ly/lnsHg2

pjgallantry

22/6/2011

11:33

#eltchat what has been your most successful project experience? How long did it take?

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:33

@warnhopepark  Like that! #eltchat

warnhopepark

22/6/2011

11:33

@Notyetlanguage I've done this before making radio ads on ye olde language lab, nowadays so much easier w/ technology #eltchat

harrisonmike

22/6/2011

11:33

Right, am offskies. See you later all. Enjoy the rest o' #eltchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:33

RT @kalinagoenglish: RT @harrisonmike: Learning English is a pretty big project ;o) As is teaching it ;o) ;o) #eltchat LOL

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:33

@antoniaclare Deep fried mars bar?  Nah. #ELTCHAT

JoeMcVeigh

22/6/2011

11:33

For those who like their projects complex, what are the basic steps involved for students? How much help to give?  #ELTchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:33

RT @bethcagnol: @lu_bodeman @CeciELT I would then incorporate the project into their other subjects #ELTCHAT > Nice idea

kalinagoenglish

22/6/2011

11:33

RT @harrisonmike: Learning English is a pretty big project ;o) As is teaching it ;o) ;o) #eltchat LOL

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:33

@lu_bodeman  Yes, but PBL is a methodology - not like a task, I know Harvard use it for HigherEd for example , right? #eltchat

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:33

RT @worldteacher: RT @evab2001: I assigned my sts 2 write 20 page stories in 2 months and best stories will be ebooks , #eltchat >Gr8idea!

LukeMeddings

22/6/2011

11:33

@Marisa_C I like @web2literacy 's 'porous' idea-classroom walls but also time-frames (lessons,even semesters),language areas.. #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:34

@LukeMeddings Nice - concept allows for flexibility  along several fronts - which is why projects are nice alternatives to homework #eltchat

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:34

So what other project ideas have teachers used? Planning a music festival has been a favourite for my sts.  #eltchat

kalinagoenglish

22/6/2011

11:34

RT @esolcourses @worldteacher @evab2001: I assigned my sts 2 write 20 pg stories in 2 months +best stories will be ebooks #eltchat >Gr8idea!

harrisonmike

22/6/2011

11:34

@LukeMeddings Really enjoyed Rich/@web2literacy's presentation at #NATESOL - great community on vimeo #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:34

@Marisa_C @lu_bodeman @CeciELT Thanks Marisa. :) I try to anticipate all the excuses they'll throw at me. #ELTCHAT

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:34

I do a project with my SS where they have to propose something to help the community - Building a sense of citizenship. #eltchat

antoniaclare

22/6/2011

11:34

#eltchat I think projects are a great way to give sts focus / sthing to work on outside class, as well as in, esp making podcasts, blogs etc

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:34

@Fuertesun  Agreed #eltchat

Dawg_Houston

22/6/2011

11:34

#eltchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:34

Project works great for dff abilities, learner styles, Mi's and social civic competences with YLs #eltchat

MrGCowie

21/6/2011

11:34

RT @Ilotimo: Post: Google Docs for Teachers and Classrooms http://bit.ly/j7HGLv #edchat #eduswe #edtech #finnedchat #cpchat #eltchat #ukedchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:35

RT @esolcourses: RT @worldteacher: RT @evab2001: I assigned my sts 2 write 20 page stories in 2 months and best stories will be ebooks , #eltchat >Gr8idea!

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:35

@warnhopepark night #eltchat

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:35

@Marisa_C @bethcagnol @lu_bodeman It would be a nice idea except we have a huge content to cover and only 2h30m a week with them :( #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:35

@CeciELT Done. #ELTCHAT

pjgallantry

22/6/2011

11:35

#eltchat you can do great 3-4 lesson projects with ESOL learners based around citizenship tasks

warnhopepark

22/6/2011

11:35

I'm going to have to cut #eltchat short and go to bed, guys, happy chatting and thanks for the burst of inspiration, I needed it today! xx

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:35

RT @warnhopepark: @Notyetlanguage I've done this before making radio ads on ye olde language lab, nowadays so much easier w/ technology #eltchat

teacher_prix

22/6/2011

11:35

@Notyetlanguage: Projects when students make their own commercials => I just love the results! #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:35

Or is it that homework is project work in a motivational disguise? #ELtchat

Dawg_Houston

22/6/2011

11:35

Projects are cool when you have a flexible schedule #eltchat

teacher_prix

22/6/2011

11:36

@CeciELT Same here...! #eltchat

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:36

RT @Marisa_C: @CeciELT Story of every teacher's life - not enough time to do everything one FEELS they ought to do :-)  #eltchat > Right on!

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:36

@bethcagnol I recently had to do that with my group of BE sts. They had to create and present a project plan. #ELTchat

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:36

RT @Marisa_C: Or is it that homework is project work in a motivational disguise? #ELtchat > Don't think so. Project can be assigned as HW

Notyetlanguage

22/6/2011

11:36

@warnhopepark true, but we should teach students how to avoid plagiarism (e. g. stealing from youtube) #ELTchat

evab2001

22/6/2011

11:36

sts should learn, see sth from a different perspective, share knowledge and be able 2 present with projects #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:36

@CeciELT Story of every teacher's life - not enough time to do everything one FEELS they ought to do :-)  #eltchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:36

@worldteacher I saw a great Solar System project in a primary school once #eltchat

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:36

@worldteacher  project idea - learners making video clips about local festivals - teacher can learn so much about local cultures #eltchat

harrisonmike

22/6/2011

11:36

@evab2001 and @alexgfrancisco's wiki is a fab example of project work, no? http://celebr8uandmedigitally.wikispaces.com/ #eltchat

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:37

RT @Fuertesun: @worldteacher I saw a great Solar System project in a primary school once #eltchat >Sounds great!

Dawg_Houston

22/6/2011

11:37

I did a NEWSPAPER project with my inter students. It was really nice to see them looking for specific vocabulary and expressions. #eltchat

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:37

@Notyetlanguage  think we should encourage learners to be innovative and creative with the resources available to them #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:37

@CeciELT @Marisa_C @lu_bodeman I know one teacher who doesn't include the project in the class time. #ELTCHAT

antoniaclare

22/6/2011

11:37

RT @web2literacy: @worldteacher project idea - make video clips about local festivals - t can learn so much abt local cultures #eltchat Gr8!

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:37

@web2literacy Good idea - have also done an international cookbook on similar lines. #eltchat

SusuTraining

21/6/2011

11:37

Rt "@paulmaglione: FT: English classes are the new goldrush. #efl #esl #elt #english #iatefl #eltchat http://on.ft.com/kzPThs"

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:38

@Marisa_C Sorry. Bad short term memory (or over tweeting). Why not what? #ELTCHAT  (thanks).

Sarah_WG

22/6/2011

11:38

My 10 yo sts host a school assembly where each class presents songs and skits in English. They plan and organize the event. #eltchat

Notyetlanguage

22/6/2011

11:38

@teacher_prix me, too. It was especially interesting with #Business English students when we did marketing. #ELTchat

Dawg_Houston

22/6/2011

11:38

@antoniaclare #eltchat Local Festivals is really a an outstanding topic.

JoeMcVeigh

22/6/2011

11:38

In US we have big push for standards/course objectives. How to integrate those with projects that have multiple goals/outcomes? #ELTchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:38

@bethcagnol why not? #ELTCHAT

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:38

@Marisa_C @bethcagnol @CeciELT It would be a nice idea except we have a huge content to cover and only 2h30m a wk > true  #eltchat

antoniaclare

22/6/2011

11:39

#eltchat Chuck Sandy's lipdubs were great project for uni sts http://bit.ly/kaoVQi

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:39

@Marisa_C Oh yeah, got it. Well....#ELTCHAT

AndreaBudding

22/6/2011

11:39

RT @@Dawg_Houston That's a grt idea! There r lots of 'World Newspaper' sites now whre sts can read newspapes frm all arnd the world #eltchat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:39

@bethcagnol @CeciELT @Marisa_C  Guess we could periodically check how things are going. :) #eltchat

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:39

A project I did SS really got engaged was about them teaching something they knew to the others... we had a great variety of themes #eltchat

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:39

@bethcagnol @CeciELT @Marisa_C @lu_bodeman Extra time? What about instructions, monitoring, feedback? #ELTchat

teacher_prix

22/6/2011

11:39

@CeciELT: RT @Marisa_C: #ELtchat > > In fact my sts like this getting together to work on projects! Parents don't! LOL #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:39

@JoeMcVeigh I think the answer to this is to analyse project objectives as analytically as poss if one has to justify them  #ELTchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:39

@DinaDobrou How did they do with that project plan? #ELTCHAT

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:40

RT @barbarabujtas: projects are more memorable than simple tasks, might they mean more effective kind of learning?

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:40

@SueAnnan You could have an ongoing project for that time frame me thinks #eltchat

barbarabujtas

22/6/2011

11:40

projects are more memorable than simple tasks, might they mean more effective kind of learning?

Notyetlanguage

22/6/2011

11:40

@web2literacy it's a special feeling when you succeed to encourage creativity with students. #ELTchat

pjgallantry

22/6/2011

11:40

RT @JoeMcVeigh In US we have push for ...course objectives. How to integrate those with projects? #ELTchat> same problem in UK!

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:40

@DinaDobrou @bethcagnol @Marisa_C @lu_bodeman Dina, when tht happens I keep tabs on it every class... #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:40

@bethcagnol @CeciELT @Marisa_C @lu_bodeman He didn't include it in class time cause he didn't have time. (2h/wk). #ELTCHAT

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:40

@DinaDobrou Plan scheduled short project meetings for updates and progress reports #ELTchat

eannegrenoble

22/6/2011

11:40

@JoeMcVeigh We do lots of mini projects because of course objectives - can't imagine something bigger #ELTchat

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:41

then next mini-project 'making a food pyramid' #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:41

I would agree that projects result in deeper kinds of learning than regular classroom activities #ELTchat

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:41

Did a project where small groups taught the others abt a sport. Fascinating to see Japanese st make a dartboard by folding only #eltchat

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:41

projects can be big with mini-bits - my learners did project on 'healthy eating' - keeping food diary was one min project #eltchat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:41

RT @antoniaclare: @barbarabujtas Definitely - I can remember projects I did at school , and not much else! #eltchat

evab2001

22/6/2011

11:41

@harrisonmike @alexgfrancisco thnx 4 the mention Mike,unfortunately it was a bit slow this year,hoping 2 continue next year as well #eltchat

antoniaclare

22/6/2011

11:41

@barbarabujtas Definitely - I can remember projects I did at school , and not much else! #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:41

RT @barbarabujtas: projects are more memorable than simple tasks, might they mean more effective kind of learning?

SueannaN

22/6/2011

11:41

@Fuertesun  need to be more organised I think #eltchat

antoniaclare

22/6/2011

11:42

#eltchat Another idea - sts write a magazine for local area, include reviews, opinion, letters, features etc (online or published)

evab2001

22/6/2011

11:42

RT @Marisa_C: The classic book on Project Work - some of it can be read online on Google books http://bit.ly/mLOPA0 #ELTchat

Dawg_Houston

22/6/2011

11:42

It's quite interesting to have sts prepare a Science Fair: this time, we are working on Animal Categories: Arachnids, Birds, Fish #eltchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:42

RT @Marisa_C: I would agree that projects result in deeper kinds of learning than regular classroom activities #ELTchat

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:42

How do you divide a circle in to 20 equal segments by folding only?!!!! #eltchat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:42

And how about HOW to present? I always like to go over this beforehand, w/a questionnre (i.e. T/F type) Any other thoughts on this? #eltchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:42

RT @antoniaclare: @barbarabujtas Definitely - I can remember projects I did at school , and not much else! #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:42

@pjgallantry @JoeMcVeigh Course objectives as in specifics on the syllabus? Thought that was already the case in the US. #ELTCHAT

LukeMeddings

22/6/2011

11:42

@JoeMcVeigh some of the objectives must relate to learner autonomy,motivation,relevance of content?...some? #eltchat

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:43

RT @Notyetlanguage: @web2literacy it's a special feeling when you succeed to encourage creativity with students. #ELTchat >Yes it is!!!

pjgallantry

22/6/2011

11:43

#eltchat creating a 'big' project with lots of achievable small steps within it is a great way to help differentiation.....

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:43

RT @worldteacher: How do you divide a circle in to 20 equal segments by folding only?!!!! #eltchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:43

@antoniaclare Gosh so many ideas from someone who's not joining us tonight cos she got a w/book tro write ;-) #eltchat

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:43

RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat Another idea - sts write a magazine for local area, include reviews, opinion, lette… (cont) http://deck.ly/~lPOg5

fionamau

22/6/2011

11:43

RT @worldteacher: RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat Chuck Sandy's lipdubs were great project for uni sts http://bit.ly/kaoVQi >Great idea!

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:43

RT @antoniaclare: #eltchat Chuck Sandy's lipdubs were great project for uni sts http://bit.ly/kaoVQi >Great idea!

kaceekc7

22/6/2011

11:43

RT @colorincolorado: "If we listen, advanced English language learners can explain the kinds of academic support they need." http://ow.ly/5mVL1 #ellchat #eltchat

JoeMcVeigh

22/6/2011

11:43

Resource book on Project Work by Diana Fried_Booth: http://amzn.to/lwGyEI #ELTchat Thought I had a copy but can't locate.

aClilToClimb

20/6/2011

11:43

Are EFL teachers devoid of respect? Interview w @DaveDodgson http://bit.ly/mA9Qmu #ukedchat #eltchat #elt #edchat #efl

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:44

A project based learning framework and infographic for ESL http://bit.ly/m1WXWX #esl #eltchat

SueannaN

22/6/2011

11:44

@esolcourses  thanks. |I agree #ELTChat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:44

@pjgallantry Indeed very small steps sometimes needed for successful outcomes  #eltchat

fionamau

22/6/2011

11:44

RT @worldteacher: RT @Notyetlanguage: @web2literacy it's a special feeling when you succeed to encourage creativity with students. #ELTchat >Yes it is!!!

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:44

RT @antoniaclare: @barbarabujtas Definitely - I can remember projects I did at school , and not much else! #eltchat >Me too!

pjgallantry

22/6/2011

11:44

#eltchat...ss achieving small steps helps them increase their own confidence

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:44

@SueAnnan "micro-projects" can work, so long as you don't try to be too ambitious with them #ELTChat

antoniaclare

22/6/2011

11:44

@Shaunwilden That's the problem - wld so much rather be here! ;) #eltchat

Dawg_Houston

22/6/2011

11:44

RT @Marisa_C: I would agree that projects result in deeper kinds of learning than regular classroom activities #ELTchat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:45

@Marisa_C  I don't think so in the sense they're collaborative - I guess you can grade the group? #ELTchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:45

RT @Shaunwilden @antoniaclare Gosh so many ideas from someone who isn't joining us cos she got a w/book 2 write #eltchat >>  LOL - zing!

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:45

RT @Marisa_C: Do you grade projects? #ELTchat > I always do

jjash

22/6/2011

11:45

@AndreaBudding newseum is a great app for that. #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:45

Do you grade projects? #ELTchat

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:45

@lu_bodeman I've been trying to motivate SS to present in creative/different ways - Videos, Audio, Acting, etc... #eltchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:46

RT @fionamau: @Marisa_C No. I display them some way or another eg video, audio, poster, ppt... but tha's all #eltchat

Dawg_Houston

22/6/2011

11:46

@evab2001 I agree with u, working in class will be much better for the students 'cause we can assist and check who's really into it #eltchat

CeciELT

22/6/2011

11:46

RT @Marisa_C: @CeciELT And do you assign individual grades or group brownies? #ELTchat > Individual oral, group for the project

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:46

@Marisa_C I know (of) one (tenured) teacher who asks students "Tell me what mark you want me to give you." I kid you not. #ELTCHAT

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:46

RT @fionamau: @Marisa_C No. I display them some way or another eg video, audio, poster, ppt... but tha's all #eltchat > I'd go with that too

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:46

@eyespeakbrasil That looks useful step by step guide though makes it seem quite a serious thing :-) #eltchat

fionamau

22/6/2011

11:46

@Marisa_C No. I display them some way or another eg video, audio, poster, ppt... but tha's all #eltchat

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:46

@CeciELT @bethcagnol @Marisa_C @lu_bodeman Or maybe send reports and offer guidance online? #ELTchat

Notyetlanguage

22/6/2011

11:46

@JoeMcVeigh not easy, but possible...try to adjust the objectives of your project to the course objectives / standards #ELTchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:46

@CeciELT And do you assign individual grades or group brownies? #ELTchat

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:46

@antoniaclare We do this at summer school where sts write a guide for sts coming the following year. #eltchat

LukeMeddings

22/6/2011

11:47

RT @Marisa_C: If a project is process focussed, then the outcome for each group or learner should be the best they can possibly do #ELTchat

antoniaclare

22/6/2011

11:47

@worldteacher That's nice #eltchat - LIke the idea that the project has a real and genuine purpose - for next lot of sts

LukeMeddings

22/6/2011

11:47

@bethcagnol @marisa_c a bit too learner-centred? ; ) #eltchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:47

@lu_bodeman @Marisa_C Do they NEED to be graded? #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:47

If a project is process focussed, then the outcome for each group or learner should be the best they can possibly do #ELTchat

SueannaN

22/6/2011

11:47

@bethcagnol  but even @russell1955  does that! #ELTCHAT

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:47

RT @eyespeakbrasil: A project based learning framework and infographic for ESL http://bit.ly/m1WXWX #esl #eltchat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:47

RT @Marisa_C Do you grade projects? #ELTchat yes.

eannegrenoble

22/6/2011

11:47

RT @Marisa_C: @CeciELT And do you assign individual grades or group brownies? #ELTchat BOTH - 50:50

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:48

RT @CeciELT: RT @Marisa_C: Do you grade projects? #ELTchat > depends on the project. Yes, if part of an assessed portfolio; otherwise, no

AndreaBudding

22/6/2011

11:48

RT @jjash: newseum is a great app for that. #eltchat --> Thx! I use newspapermap.com

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:48

RT @teacher_prix: Sometimes I prefer to do projects for the fun and not for the grades... Sts are much too grade-driven these days #ELTchat

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:48

RT @teacher_prix: Sometimes I prefer to do projects for the fun and not for the grades... Sts are much too grades-driven these days... #ELTchat

eannegrenoble

22/6/2011

11:48

RT @Shaunwilden: @lu_bodeman @Marisa_C Do they NEED to be graded? #eltchat that depends on the teaching situation smthims obigatory:-(

Dawg_Houston

22/6/2011

11:48

@AndreaBudding Hey Andrea. I love working with newspaper because you can actually teach sts vocabulary, persuasion, impartiality #eltchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:48

RT @pjgallantry: #eltchat projects definitely memorable, but they must also be useful/meaningful-this is sometimes lost in all the excitement

pjgallantry

22/6/2011

11:48

#eltchat projects definitely memorable, but they must also be useful/meaningful-this is sometimes lost in all the excitement

teacher_prix

22/6/2011

11:48

Sometimes I prefer to do projects for the fun and not for the grades... Sts are much too grades-driven these days... #ELTchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:48

.. and should not be graded #ELTchat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:48

@anemontarroyos I'm fine, and also sleepy. Doing good. Participating in an #ELTchat right now. :) Join us.

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:48

@Marisa_C Process and product works bets for me I think with YLs #ELTchat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:49

RT@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Do they NEED to be graded? >> At my school, yes. They are resp for Ss' second (of three) oral assessmts.#eltchat

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:49

RT @Marisa_C: Do you grade projects? #ELTchat > not really. Maybe give feedback or invite peer evaluation b… (cont) http://deck.ly/~WpVoz

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:49

@pjgallantry meaningful  absolutely #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:49

@DinaDobrou Yeah, I think that was a good idea (letting them modify the book's rules) #ELTCHAT

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:49

RT @Marisa_C: RT @teacher_prix: Sometimes I prefer to do projects for the fun and not for the grades... Sts are much too grade-driven these days #ELTchat

sandymillin

21/6/2011

11:49

RT @DaveDodgson: New blog post: The Last Week of School, Part 2 - Saying goodbye http://bit.ly/lbMRoY #ELTchat

Dawg_Houston

22/6/2011

11:50

I think that grades ain't good because it will make them nervous and maybe what could be a nice and natural time can be a pain in...#eltchat

AndreaBudding

22/6/2011

11:50

@Dawg_Houston and cultural differences! I saw 1 African frnt pg art on the town's 1st waterwell - how grt for 1st wrld sts to read! #eltchat

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:50

How do we grade project work based around images / video / drama etc? #eltchat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:50

RT @AndreaBudding: RT @jjash: newseum is a great app for that. #eltchat --> Thx! I use newspapermap.com

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:50

@lu_bodeman Doesn't that take the fun and motivation out of project work? #eltchat

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:50

RT @AndreaBudding: RT @jjash: newseum is a great app for that. #eltchat --> Thx! I use newspapermap.com >Great link

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:50

@SueAnnan @russell1955 100% or for just a part of the course? A part, OK. But 100% ? #ELTCHAT (sorry Russell, draggin' ya in here).

fionamau

22/6/2011

11:50

@LukeMeddings: @bethcagnol @marisa_c too learner-centred? ; ) #eltchat > Not necessarily. I asked sts 2 grad… (cont) http://deck.ly/~X2m4m

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:51

RT @Marisa_C: @esolcourses: @SueAnnan "micro-projects" can work, so long as you don't try to be too ambitious with them #ELTChat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:51

RT @web2literacy: How do we grade project based around images / video / drama etc? #eltchat I agree seems 2 me that grading changes purpose

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:51

@Marisa_C not keen on the idea of individual grading for group work.  Not easy to judge who contributed what  at the end of it #ELTChat

Dawg_Houston

22/6/2011

11:51

@AndreaBudding That's right! There are things that are so ordinary for them that they don't even think about it #eltchat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:51

@web2literacy  I don't understand why students need a "grade' - feedback of course but what's the 'grade #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:51

@esolcourses: @SueAnnan "micro-projects" can work, so long as you don't try to be too ambitious with them #ELTChat

iatefl_besig

21/6/2011

11:51

RT @eyespeakbrasil: Tomorrow , -3 GMT Webinar Eyespeak 'voice recogniton software' - you're invited! http://bit.ly/lTi1R8 #besig #tesol #elt #esl #eltchat

lydbury

21/6/2011

11:51

RT @eyespeakbrasil: Tomorrow , -3 GMT Webinar Eyespeak 'voice recogniton software' - you're invited! http://bit.ly/lTi1R8 #besig #tesol #elt #esl #eltchat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:52

@esolcourses @Marisa_C That's a good point. I used to grade individuals on projects. BACK FIRED! #ELTCHAT

pjgallantry

22/6/2011

11:52

#eltchat a lot of the time, the fact that the project has been worked on and completed should *be* the grade, as it were.

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:52

RT@Marisa_C @teacher_prix ... Sts are much too grade-driven these days #ELTchat >> I agree, but the results have been awesome.

eannegrenoble

22/6/2011

11:52

@Dawg_Houston oh the challenge of teaching in some places #eltchat

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:52

assessment is a huge issue with project  work especially now in these digital days #eltchat

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:53

@Marisa_C remember a project I did once where I did most of the work, & s who presented got a higher grade. Really ticked me off! #ELTChat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:53

@JoeMcVeigh I would suggest regular project update meetings - 5 - 10 minutes at end of class every week? #ELTchat

hartle

22/6/2011

11:53

#eltchat Hi everyone, sorry couodn't make it this evening. Lk forward to summary :-) CU next week

Annierikiki

22/6/2011

11:53

RT @cybraryman1: Wed Chats Part I: #ELTchat (2) #ClavEd #ntchat #ptchat #libchat #stdntchat #yalitchat : http://tinyurl.com/3uwsgyk

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:53

but if we don't have assessment how will we be able to justify incorporating project work  into courses? #eltchat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:53

RT@Marisa_c Doesn't that take the fun and motivation out of project work? >> U would think, yes. But I've been pleasantly surprised #eltchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:53

@DinaDobrou @eannegrenoble @lu_bodeman @Marisa_C I guess it depends on the place of the project in the schools syllabus #eltchat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:53

I know Asian cultures crave a 'grade' so I can't imagine they'd enjoy non-graded project work. #eltchat

JoeMcVeigh

22/6/2011

11:53

Anyone have advice on keeping students focused on the task/project? #ELTchat

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:53

@web2literacy Feedback may be nore relevant than a grade for project work #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:53

RT @bethcagnol: @esolcourses @Marisa_C That's a good point. I used to grade individuals on projects. BACK FIRED! #ELTCHAT > not surprised

domi75P

21/6/2011

11:53

RT @esolcourses: The School - Professional Development Game for teachers, by @bcnpaul1 | @scoopit http://bit.ly/ma0UAG #eltchat #tefl #elt

AndreaBudding

22/6/2011

11:54

RT @Notyetlanguage: @Marisa_C @teacher_prix pres of the project is a reward in itself-no need for grades-if any, just good grades:) #ELTchat

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:54

education will always be assessment led  - like it or not - we need new ways of assessing #eltchat

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:54

RT @fionamau: @web2literacy #eltchat Not everything we do needs to be for assessment - rather it should all be for learning.

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:54

@teacher_prix - one of the rare occasions in ELT where the joy of the achieverment enough #ELTchat

pjgallantry

22/6/2011

11:54

RT @JoeMcVeigh Anyone have advice on keeping students focused on the task/project? #ELTchat >carrot on a stick? a grade? money? :))

fionamau

22/6/2011

11:54

@web2literacy #eltchat Not everything we do needs to be for assessment - rather it should all be for learning.

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:54

@hartle Hi and bye #eltchat

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:54

@Marisa_C @JoeMcVeigh  Me too a good way to monitor it and also give help and advice #eltchat

Notyetlanguage

22/6/2011

11:54

@Marisa_C @teacher_prix presentation of the project is a reward in itself...no need for grades...or...if any, just good grades:) #ELTchat

teacher_prix

22/6/2011

11:55

RT @JoeMcVeigh: Anyone have advice on keeping students focused on the task/project? #ELTchat Let me know!!! =)

SueannaN

22/6/2011

11:55

RT @esolcourses: @Marisa_C @bethcagnol OTOH, what do you do about s's who 'cruise' through projects & don't pull their weight? Tricky #ELTChat

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:55

@Marisa_C @bethcagnol OTOH, what do you do about s's who 'cruise' through projects & don't pull their weight? Tricky #ELTChat

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:55

@JoeMcVeigh I think it all starts with how interesting they find the topic in the first place or involving them in choosing it. #ELTchat

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:55

@Marisa_C Not animation, but a great site for creating comics: http://bit.ly/4feHb #eltchat

teacher_prix

22/6/2011

11:55

@lu_bodeman Sometimes I get the feeling their just doing 4 grade. No heart. No matter how fun could be - too focused on a number... #ELTChat

Dawg_Houston

22/6/2011

11:55

@eannegrenoble I live in Brazil and I teach things about the USA that they haven't ever thought bout. It's nice 2 see'em astonished.#eltchat

hartle

22/6/2011

11:55

:-) RT @Fuertesun: @hartle Hi and bye #eltchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:56

@esolcourses I would stress that projects offer opportunity for acceleration work to those who are keen to move ahead  #ELTChat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:56

@esolcourses @Marisa_C Isn't it hard to judge whether or not they pulled their weight? #ELTCHAT

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:56

@Shaunwilden True that. #ELTchat

fionamau

22/6/2011

11:56

@DinaDobrou #eltchat "involving them in choosing it." - I think this is key to motivation

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:56

students are often grade focused - no assessment - not interested, #eltchat

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:56

RT @web2literacy: How do we grade project work based around images / video / drama etc? #eltchat ] think it depends on project outcomes

Fuertesun

22/6/2011

11:56

@esolcourses valid point Sue #ELTChat

pjgallantry

22/6/2011

11:57

#eltchat having a very clear timetable of when each stage of project should be completed, along with regular meetings, can help

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:57

RT @fionamau: @web2literacy #eltchat Not everything we do needs to be for assessment - rather it should all be for learning.

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:57

RT @DinaDobrou: @JoeMcVeigh I think it all starts with how interesting they find the topic in the first place or involving them in choosing it. #ELTchat

worldteacher

22/6/2011

11:57

@DinaDobrou Agree that the students should choose their project (from a limited list if you want to control it a bit!) #eltchat

teacher_prix

22/6/2011

11:57

RT @Marisa_C: @teacher_prix - one of the rare occasions in ELT where the joy of the achieverment enough #ELTchat =)

sandymillin

21/6/2011

11:57

Last day to add #infiniteeltideas for 'pillow' http://wp.me/s1sbtu-pillow #eltchat #efl #esl #esol #tesol #elt #tefl

worldteacher

20/6/2011

11:57

RT @sandymillin: Summer school ideas from @sandymillin and @fruehstyck on the IH Teachers blog http://bit.ly/lY4fTa #eltchat #yltsig #efl #esl #esol #tesol

eyespeakbrasil

22/6/2011

11:58

@bethcagnol  Yep the students have to be passionate about the project.  #ELTCHAT

Berylaube

22/6/2011

11:58

RT @harrisonmike: @LukeMeddings Really enjoyed Rich/@web2literacy's presentation at #NATESOL - great community on vimeo #eltchat

fionamau

22/6/2011

11:58

RT @teacher_prix: RT @Marisa_C: @teacher_prix - one of the rare occasions in ELT where the joy of the achieverment enough #ELTchat =)

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:58

@worldteacher @DinaDobrou How about getting students to come up with the list, then narrow it down to their faves. #ELTCHAT

LukeMeddings

22/6/2011

11:58

@fionamau @bethcagnol @marisa_c Fair point Fiona!but prob needs to be part of a real dialogue..not sure Bethany's eg was! #eltchat

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:58

@fionamau and not just for project work. #ELTchat

Marisa_C

22/6/2011

11:58

RT @pjgallantry: #eltchat A very clear timetable of when each stage of project should be completed, along with regular meetings, can help

fionamau

22/6/2011

11:58

@esolcourses #eltchat Don't u give each student in a project group a role? A particular objective? helps avoid coasting & adds peer-pressure

esolcourses

22/6/2011

11:59

@fionamau @bethcagnol @Marisa_C  think it depends on project & the group. If s's don't do their bit, the project can fall apart #ELTChat

eannegrenoble

22/6/2011

11:59

Lots of food for thought - thanks people  -  HTgo  #eltchat

fionamau

22/6/2011

11:59

RT @DinaDobrou: @fionamau and not just for project work. #ELTchat > Exactly :-)

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:59

@bethcagnol @worldteacher Even better idea! Man! That's why I love #ELTchat!!!

Dawg_Houston

22/6/2011

11:59

#eltchat

fionamau

22/6/2011

11:59

RT @Marisa_C: RT @pjgallantry: #eltchat A very clear timetable of when each stage of project should be completed, along with regular meetings, can help

AndreaBudding

22/6/2011

11:59

RT @bethcagnol: @worldteacher @DinaDobrou How about getting students to come up with the list, then narrow it down to their faves. #ELTCHAT

Shaunwilden

22/6/2011

11:59

@web2literacy See you next week then :-) #eltchat

lu_bodeman

22/6/2011

11:59

RT@teacher_prix Sometimes I get the feeling their just doing 4 grade. >> I get that s'times. But like I said, I've been surprised. #ELTChat

BethCagnol

22/6/2011

11:59

@fionamau @esolcourses Absolutely. I would event go as far as make them watch MBA vids on project management to set it up. #ELTCHAT

DinaDobrou

22/6/2011

11:59

@worldteacher Like the list idea. Otherwise it will end up in one big messy debate (which would also signal a change of focus! lol) #ELTchat

web2literacy

22/6/2011

11:59

Thanks to everyone for  #ELTCHAT - totally engaging , love it

EmergentMath

20/6/2011

11:59

Hey #NST2011 participants give these hashtags a try: #mathchat #edchat #scichat #PBLchat #ELTchat #edreform #SPEDchat #sschat What'd I miss?

lolonagi

20/6/2011

11:59

digital story telling with teens elementary level #eltchat any ideas #tesl #efl

BethCagnol

23/6/2011

12:00

@esolcourses @fionamau @Marisa_C Sure it can fall apart. I tell them it's like real life. #ELTCHAT

worldteacher

23/6/2011

12:00

RT @DinaDobrou: @bethcagnol @worldteacher Even better idea! Man! That's why I love #ELTchat!!! >Me too!!

eyespeakbrasil

23/6/2011

12:00

Tchau, abracos thanks - lively and  stimulating! #eltchat

fionamau

23/6/2011

12:00

RT @BethCagnol: @worldteacher @DinaDobrou How about getting students to come up with the list, then narrow it down to their faves. #ELTCHAT

Fuertesun

23/6/2011

12:00

RT @lu_bodeman: RT@teacher_prix Sometimes I get the feeling their just doing 4 grade. >> I get that s'times. But like I said, I've been surprised. #ELTChat

AndreaBudding

23/6/2011

12:00

Thanks everyone! Inspiring and engaging #ELTchat. Learned lots! :)

Sarah_WG

23/6/2011

12:00

RT @JoeMcVeigh Clear steps and goals along the path towards the end. Deadlines. Once first, motivated group presents that helps. #eltchat

web2literacy

23/6/2011

12:00

@Shaunwilden  yes for sure - thanks #eltchat

pjgallantry

23/6/2011

12:01

#eltchat it's not just the students who have to be enthusiastic - so does the teacher, even when it's 5 weeks into the project time!!

Fuertesun

23/6/2011

12:01

RT @Shaunwilden: Hang on don't  all rush off we need a volunteer for the summary ;-) #eltchat

teacher_prix

23/6/2011

12:01

@lu_bodeman Yep! A # of items involved... Age, the way they relate to each other, the selection of the topic, the project itself... #ELTChat

Fuertesun

23/6/2011

12:01

RT @Notyetlanguage: #Projects are great for different learning styles,  even the students with otherwise lower grades can excel #ELTchat

fionamau

23/6/2011

12:01

RT @bethcagnol: @worldteacher @DinaDobrou students come up w/ the list, then narrowdown to faves. #ELTCHAT > I do this W/ debate topics too

Marisa_C

23/6/2011

12:01

@esolcourses I know it sounds obvious but grouping Ss sensibly always a good idea  #ELTChat

SueannaN

23/6/2011

12:01

Thanks for am entertaining chat #ELTchat

lu_bodeman

23/6/2011

12:01

RT@Marisa_C @pjgallantry: #eltchat A clear timetable of when each stage of project should be completed, along with reg meetings >> good

Shaunwilden

23/6/2011

12:01

Hang on don't  all rush off we need a volunteer for the summary ;-) #eltchat

Notyetlanguage

23/6/2011

12:01

#Projects are great for different learning styles,  even the students with otherwise lower grades can excel #ELTchat

BethCagnol

23/6/2011

12:01

@esolcourses @fionamau @Marisa_C Tough part comes for the teacher who has to decide what to do when it falls apart. #ELTCHAT

Dawg_Houston

23/6/2011

12:02

I'd like to thank all the #eltchat teachers. Y'all are great! Thanks for the tips. Gotta bounce!

Shaunwilden

23/6/2011

12:02

@Marisa_C So when we open the blog for topics, suggest it ;-) #eltchat

pjgallantry

23/6/2011

12:02

#eltchat thanks everybody - as ever an entertaining and stimulating session!

NoelineL

23/6/2011

12:02

RT @fionamau: @web2literacy #eltchat Not everything we do needs to be for assessment - rather it should all be for learning.

BethCagnol

23/6/2011

12:02

@Shaunwilden Can't this week, but promise to do a few in July. #ELTCHAT

esolcourses

23/6/2011

12:02

RT @Marisa_C: @esolcourses I know it sounds obvious but grouping Ss sensibly always a good idea  #ELTChat ] very true

Marisa_C

23/6/2011

12:02

I think some input on what makes a group collaborate well might be a good idea #ELTchat

esolcourses

23/6/2011

12:02

@fionamau as I teach adults, I usually prefer to leave delegating tasks  within projects to the students, tbh. #ELTChat

esolcourses

21/6/2011

12:02

RT @Shaunwilden: 6 topics to vote for and the poll is now open for this week's #eltchat http://bit.ly/khQtw8

web2literacy

23/6/2011

12:03

@Notyetlanguage  yes, I try but can't get this idea past  my manager #eltchat

Shaunwilden

23/6/2011

12:03

RT @DinaDobrou: My class did a 'Dvolver' story in 2 episodes.We skyped w/ class in US,they did one too.Next year we'll collaborate & create stories #ELTchat

BethCagnol

23/6/2011

12:03

RT @Marisa_C: I think some input on what makes a group collaborate well might be a good idea #ELTchat

DinaDobrou

23/6/2011

12:03

My class did a 'Dvolver' story in 2 episodes.We skyped w/ class in US,they did one too.Next year we'll collaborate & create stories #ELTchat

fionamau

23/6/2011

12:03

RT @pjgallantry: #eltchat it's not just the students who have to be enthusiastic - so does the teacher, even when it's 5 weeks into the project time!!

Marisa_C

23/6/2011

12:03

@Shaunwilden Which one? How to collaborate well ?  #eltchat

esolcourses

23/6/2011

12:03

RT @bethcagnol: @esolcourses @fionamau @Marisa_C Sure it can fall apart. I tell them it's like real life. #ELTCHAT ] so it is :-)

worldteacher

23/6/2011

12:03

Great chat as always!  Thanks everyone, especially the moderators. #eltchat

lu_bodeman

23/6/2011

12:03

RT@Shaunwilden @DinaDobrou @eannegrenoble @Marisa_C I guess it depends on the place of the project in the schools syllabus #eltchat >>Yup

analuisalozano

21/6/2011

12:03

RT @esolcourses: RT @Shaunwilden: 6 topics to vote for and the poll is now open for this week's #eltchat http://bit.ly/khQtw8

esolcourses

23/6/2011

12:04

Cheers for another great #ELTChat everyone , & extra special thank you to our mods for doing such a great job, as usual! Catch you later :-)

teacher_prix

23/6/2011

12:04

@Shaunwilden: ... summary ;-) #eltchat I'd love to, but... I have a full reflection to write, right @Marisa_C? LOL =)

Marisa_C

23/6/2011

12:04

Have we got a summary writer please? #ELtchat

CeciELT

23/6/2011

12:04

My connection got lost...and I lost the rest of #Eltchat :-(

Dawg_Houston

23/6/2011

12:04

#eltchat If y'all can, check out my blog: www.flabbergastenglish.blogspot.com

web2literacy

23/6/2011

12:05

@DinaDobrou  Dvolver looks great,  ideas on this would be brilliant #eltchat

Marisa_C

23/6/2011

12:05

@worldteacher will get you the transcript in two seconds! #eltchat

Shaunwilden

23/6/2011

12:05

@bethcagnol well given you wanted the topic to be associations I am happy :-) #eltchat

LukeMeddings

23/6/2011

12:05

RT @Marisa_C: I think some input on what makes a group collaborate well might be a good idea #ELTchat

Berylaube

23/6/2011

12:05

RT @worldteacher: @Marisa_C Not animation, but a great site for creating comics: http://bit.ly/4feHb #eltchat

fionamau

23/6/2011

12:05

RT @esolcourses: I usually prefer to leave delegating tasks 2 the students. #ELTChat > Yes, me too, but it's worth making sure they do it

worldteacher

23/6/2011

12:05

@Shaunwilden I'll take the summary, but only if you can get the transcript to me quickly as I'm only free in the morning! #eltchat

Shaunwilden

23/6/2011

12:05

@teacher_prix Yeah yeah nice excuse :-) #eltchat

Marisa_C

23/6/2011

12:05

@teacher_prix you stay out of it - got assignments lined up for you :-D  #eltchat

BethCagnol

23/6/2011

12:05

@Shaunwilden This has been a VERY VERY VERY good #ELTCHAT. Thanks to the moderator(s). Who am I missing? #ELTCHAT

yohimar

21/6/2011

12:05

RT @esolcourses @Shaunwilden RT @Shaunwilden: 6 topics to vote for and the poll is now open for this week's #eltchat http://t.co/Pp8uxxC

Marisa_C

23/6/2011

12:06

@worldteacher oh ok was exaggerating a bit  #eltchat

Berylaube

23/6/2011

12:06

RT @Sarah_WG: RT @JoeMcVeigh Clear steps and goals along the path towards the end. Deadlines. Once first, motivated group presents that helps. #eltchat

teacher_prix

23/6/2011

12:06

@Shaunwilden @Marisa_C Yes (hehehe...) #ELTChat

Shaunwilden

23/6/2011

12:06

@Marisa_C @worldteacher  2 secs wow  - ok 1....2...... #eltchat

worldteacher

23/6/2011

12:06

@Marisa_C Wow, that's quick!! #eltchat LOL!!

CeciELT

23/6/2011

12:07

RT @LukeMeddings: Big thanks to our moderators @Marisa_C @shaunwilden #eltchat > Hear hear!

BethCagnol

23/6/2011

12:07

RT @LukeMeddings: @Marisa_C So true-we focus on group management skills in TT so should do the same with group participation skills in T (and TT) #eltchat

LukeMeddings

23/6/2011

12:07

Big thanks to our moderators @Marisa_C @shaunwilden #eltchat

Fuertesun

23/6/2011

12:07

RT @CeciELT: My connection got lost...and I lost the rest of #Eltchat :-( me too!

LukeMeddings

23/6/2011

12:07

@Marisa_C So true-we focus on group management skills in TT so should do the same with group participation skills in T (and TT) #eltchat

Berylaube

23/6/2011

12:07

RT @lu_bodeman: RT@Marisa_C @pjgallantry: #eltchat A clear timetable of when each stage of project should be completed, along with reg meetings >> good

Sarah_WG

23/6/2011

12:07

RT @web2literacy @DinaDobrou  Dvolver looks great,  ideas on this would be brilliant #eltchat > yes, I agree!!

Notyetlanguage

23/6/2011

12:07

@web2literacy your manager must be very conservative. Just don't tell him much about the projects you're doing, if possible. #ELTchat

Fuertesun

23/6/2011

12:07

RT @esolcourses: Cheers for another great #ELTChat everyone , & extra special thank you to our mods for doing such a great job, as usual! Catch you later :-)

BethCagnol

23/6/2011

12:08

@Shaunwilden Off to read the associations transcript. (scrolling down to find it now) :-) #ELTCHAT

AndreaBudding

23/6/2011

12:08

RT @CeciELT: RT @LukeMeddings: Big thanks to our moderators @Marisa_C @shaunwilden #eltchat > Hear hear!

DinaDobrou

23/6/2011

12:08

@web2literacy http://bit.ly/lKp7Ug  http://bit.ly/lYpgpw Links to episodes 1&2. #ELTchat

JoeMcVeigh

23/6/2011

12:08

RT @LukeMeddings: Big thanks to our moderators @Marisa_C @shaunwilden #eltchat Yes, indeed! Thanks!

Fuertesun

23/6/2011

12:08

Night all #eltchat

fionamau

23/6/2011

12:08

RT @Shaunwilden: @teacher_prix Yeah yeah nice excuse :-) #eltchat > Mine is kinda similar - right Shaun?

BethCagnol

23/6/2011

12:09

RT @JoeMcVeigh: RT @LukeMeddings: Big thanks to our moderators @Marisa_C @shaunwilden #eltchat Yes, indeed! Thanks!

fionamau

23/6/2011

12:09

RT @LukeMeddings @CeciELT Big thanks to our moderators @Marisa_C @shaunwilden #eltchat >> Over here, hear too!

 

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