username |
time |
status |
Shaunwilden |
12:00 |
Welcome to today's #eltchat your mods for this chat are myself & @barbsaka the topic is The benefits of joining an international association |
barbsaka |
12:00 |
Everyone ready for #eltchat today? |
galactadon |
12:00 |
For the next hour I'm in #eltchat mode |
sandymillin |
12:01 |
#eltchat Not me - seemed too expensive, but prospect of going to IATEFL next year, and meeting you guys on Twitter means might be soon |
barbsaka |
12:01 |
@galactadon It's all open! #eltchat |
galactadon |
12:01 |
Question: are there only benefits, no down sides, or those are for another hour? #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:01 |
Who here belongs to an international teaching association? #eltchat |
AndreaBudding |
12:01 |
Good evening from Australia! I'll be lurking tonight RT @barbsaka: For the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:02 |
I belong to TESOL, IATEFL, and JALT (Japan affiliate of both) #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:02 |
@galactadon It would be good to hear some of the downsides #eltchat |
fionamau |
12:02 |
@Shaunwilden The mobile plug in thing (pincho) yes, but not sure how much eltchat I can join in for. Coursework no problem today, tho |
chucksandy |
12:02 |
Why join intl professional assns? for community, collaboration & the chance to see beyond the walls of your own context #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:02 |
RT @barbsaka: Who here belongs to an international teaching association? #eltchat I do - IATEFL |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:03 |
RT @chucksandy: Why join intl professional assns? for community, collaboration & the chance to see beyond the walls of your own context #eltchat |
esolcourses |
12:03 |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @barbsaka: Who here belongs to an international teaching association? #eltchat I do - IATEFL ] Same here, + TESOL |
esolcourses |
12:03 |
RT @chucksandy: Why join intl professional assns? for community, collaboration & to see beyond the walls of your own context #eltchat |
profesortbaker |
12:03 |
The Good Earth: Homeless Kenyan Boys Choir: http://t.co/OqkWtvv #ELTchat #edchat #ukedchat #langchat #cpchat #elemchat #lrnchat #IATEFL #esl |
Shaunwilden |
12:04 |
RT @IateflPoland: @sandymillin #eltchat Try Iatefl first, then decide if it's too expensive. The experience will wow you! - I agree :-) |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:04 |
@Shaunwilden @barbsaka Ready to hop in to the topics! eager to know more #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:04 |
i belong to TESOL, JALT FEELTA KOTESOL & a bunch more but must say in some cases it's just a part of my professional duty to belong #eltchat |
IateflPoland |
12:04 |
@sandymillin #eltchat Try Iatefl first, then decide if it's too expensive. The experience will wow you! |
hakan_sentrk |
12:04 |
I recently became a member of IATEFL #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:04 |
I think it would be useful to hear about both the benefits teachers see (thanks, @chucksandy ) and the drawbacks #eltchat |
fionamau |
12:04 |
RT @Shaunwilden: 6 topics to vote for and the poll is now open for this week's #eltchat http://bit.ly/khQtw8 |
AlexandraKouk |
12:05 |
a bit late but ready for #ELTchat :-) |
Shaunwilden |
12:05 |
@chucksandy So if it is professional duty, you dont see the benefits? #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:05 |
Answers? RT @sandymillin: So why should people join if they can't go to the conference? What benefits would they get? #eltchat |
KarenInGreece |
12:05 |
For the next hour, my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat. |
sandymillin |
12:05 |
So why should people join if they can't go to the conference? What benefits would they get? #eltchat |
marcusmurilo |
12:05 |
RT @fionamau: A place of greater safety: new blog post http://bit.ly/gUmTMD #eltchat #yltsig #tdsig #tefl |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:05 |
For the next hour my tweets are dedicated to #eltchat |
NATECLA |
12:05 |
RT @juliuss003: Why social media can and is changing education #esl #tefl #efl #esol #elearning #tesol #eltchat #iatefl #studyenglish http://bit.ly/leCSsJ |
Shaunwilden |
12:06 |
@sandymillin Well there are local conferences, smaller conferences, SIGS groups, magazines to read.....#eltchat |
hakan_sentrk |
12:06 |
I became a member because I wanted to become part of an entity that knows /shares/contributes to my profession, professionally #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:06 |
Hi everyone #eltchat I am a committee member of the #iatefl #ltsig and a member of #tesolspain |
KarenInGreece |
12:06 |
I was a member of IATEFL but didn't renew this year #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:06 |
RT @gknightbkk: IATEFL's website is scant on reasons to join but discount on publications and one SIG membership seems to be it #eltchat |
naomishema |
12:06 |
#eltchat hi all! |
AlexandraKouk |
12:06 |
RT @chucksandy: y join intl professional assns? 4 community, collaboration & the chance 2 C beyond the walls of yr own context #eltchat |
gknightbkk |
12:06 |
IATEFL's website is scant on reasons to join but discount on publications and one SIG membership seems to be it #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:06 |
i must day that since the birth of my PLN that some of the shine of intl assns has worn off: I'm building community elsewhere #eltchat |
interactivecup |
12:06 |
We have our new Interactive Teaching Tip out: http://ow.ly/5lE4f Make vocabulary lessons fun in the classroom! #ELTchat #esl #efl #elt |
grahamstanley |
12:07 |
yes, - have just checked into hotel in Madrid - glad I could make it #eltchat @Shaunwilden |
harrisonmike |
12:07 |
There's an #IATEFL Adobe Connect Room that is available for SIGs to use for their online events #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:07 |
@sandymillin I spend most of my professional time with sig members (young learners) #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:07 |
@barbsaka Hi all, must be Wednesday. I think the first benefit beyond the conference would be the magazine and being in touch #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:07 |
@grahamstanley Hi Graham, glad you join us esp as it was suggestion :) #eltchat |
sandymillin |
12:07 |
@barbsaka How does being a member of the SIGs benefit you? #eltchat |
galactadon |
12:07 |
If you can't afford to go to conferences, is membership worth it? #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:07 |
@shaunwilden: there are benefits: i get journals, newsletters, some advocacy & more. #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:07 |
@KarenInGreece Why didn't you renew? #eltchat |
gknightbkk |
12:07 |
RT @chucksandy: i must day that since the birth of my PLN that some of the shine of intl assns has worn off: I'm building community elsewhere #eltchat |
samshep |
12:07 |
RT @juliuss003: Why social media can and is changing education #esl #tefl #efl #esol #elearning #tesol #eltchat #iatefl #studyenglish http://bit.ly/leCSsJ |
grahamstanley |
12:08 |
#eltchat I think lots of teacher associations are struggling to show value of membership in the social networking age |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:08 |
@barbsaka I am actually thinking about applying to join IATEFL but still have doubt as I'm not really in the filed nowadays #eltchat |
IateflPoland |
12:08 |
@sandymillin #eltchat They can go online and see many interviews, talks, etc. Also, workshops by SIG groups - u can attend. Get bulletins. |
Shaunwilden |
12:08 |
@sandymillin I think I get a lot from being in the LTSIG, like minded people sharing ideas etc #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:08 |
RT @harrisonmike: There's an #IATEFL Adobe Connect Room that is available for SIGs to use for their online events #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:08 |
RT @chucksandy: @shaunwilden: there are benefits: i get journals, newsletters, some advocacy & more. #eltchat |
worldteacher |
12:08 |
RT @Shaunwilden: 6 topics to vote for and the poll is now open for this week's #eltchat http://bit.ly/khQtw8 |
KarenInGreece |
12:09 |
@barbsaka Didn't get around to it (bad excuse)... and no money! And also not able to attend conferences so didn't see much value #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:09 |
RT @barbsaka: RT @gknightbkk: IATEFL's website is scant on reasons to join but discount on publications and one SIG membership seems to be it #eltchat |
AlexandraKouk |
12:09 |
RT @sandymillin: What benefits do you get that you can't get from being part of Twitter/the blogosphere? #eltchat |
galactadon |
12:09 |
sorry, but the benefits seem pretty scanty so far. I'm not a member, but can't those of you who are make a longer list of benefits? #eltchat |
sandymillin |
12:09 |
RT @chucksandy: i do think tho it's part of my duty to support organizations which support the profession & which have invited me to contribute #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:09 |
i do think tho it's part of my duty to support organizations which support the profession & which have invited me to contribute #eltchat |
esolcourses |
12:09 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @sandymillin I think I get a lot from being in the LTSIG, like minded people sharing ideas etc #eltchat |
hakan_sentrk |
12:09 |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat I think lots of teacher associations are struggling to show value of membership in the social networking age |
sandymillin |
12:09 |
What benefits do you get that you can't get from being part of Twitter/the blogosphere? #eltchat |
lu_bodeman |
12:09 |
RT @yitzha_sarwono: RT @Shaunwilden: 6 topics to vote for and the poll is now open for this week's #eltchat http://bit.ly/khQtw8 > Vote in. |
ragtimemadam |
12:09 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: RT @chiasuan: @pjgallantry Absolutely! My MA teacher once said 'An approach is only as good as the teacher who employs it'... #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:10 |
iit's kind of like joining a union isn't it? TESOL for ex. works to advocate for lang. teachers. It's good to support this effort #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:10 |
@sandymillin #eltchat ...a lot of those benefits are also open to non-members too |
KarenInGreece |
12:10 |
Although I have to say I liked the magazine they send you. I keep saying I'll renew but don't get around to it. Next year! #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:10 |
@sandymillin #eltchat in theory, being a member of an #iatefl sig gives you benefits such as access to members, etc. - in practice... |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:10 |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat I think lots of teacher associations are struggling to show value of membership in the networking age |
barbsaka |
12:10 |
@sandymillin SIGs often have their own newsletter, or dedicated chats, and online groups #eltchat |
gknightbkk |
12:11 |
I would get more involved with IATEFL SIGs if they did more to globalise conferences and other events #eltchat |
hakan_sentrk |
12:11 |
@AlexandraKouk twitter is not a professional/official ground to publish research/ideas, it is just a tool to announce them #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:11 |
I think sometimes a SIG can be a very closed group. I didn't get much from my IATEFL SIG and changed. Still disappointed #eltchat |
KarenInGreece |
12:11 |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat I think lots of teacher associations are struggling to show value of membership in the social networking age |
esolcourses |
12:11 |
RT @AlexandraKouk: RT @sandymillin: What benefits do you get that you can't get from being part of Twitter/the blogosphere? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:11 |
RT @chucksandy: iit's kind of like joining a union isn't it? TESOL for ex. works to advocate for lang. teachers. It's good to support this effort #eltchat |
galactadon |
12:11 |
@grahamstanley as well they should. if the only real value provided is networking, well, we obviously get a lot of that for free #eltchat |
gibarino |
12:11 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: 16 creative ways to use songs in the classroom http://oxford.ly/mGJ6Mn via @busyteacher_org #eltchat #edchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:12 |
RT @galactadon: @chucksandy I'd like to hear more about that. What is this advocacy, concretely? #eltchat |
AlexandraKouk |
12:12 |
@hakan_sentrk I beg to differ :-) # #ELTchat |
KarenInGreece |
12:12 |
@grahamstanley Good point, I agree. I get more online, up-to-date information than TA can provide #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:12 |
@galactadon @grahamstanley #eltchat But then if people didn't join it wouldn't have the funds / power to d… (cont) http://deck.ly/~77C6d |
galactadon |
12:12 |
@chucksandy I'd like to hear more about that. What is this advocacy, concretely? #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:12 |
One of the benefits @OUPELTGlobal mentioned is advocacy. I think that's a biggie. More members=bigger voice #eltchat |
nickkiley |
12:12 |
#eltchat I do sometimes feel I'm paying a lot for a magazine subscription - haven't made it to a conf yet, lots in online. |
harrisonmike |
12:13 |
Contributions make the pubs (Voices) so if this is to be a big benefit to being a member of #IATEFL, members need to contribute #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:13 |
@gknightbkk Well i belong to the LT SIG and we are trying to do that #eltchat |
hartle |
12:13 |
#ELTchat HI everyone, sorry I'm late |
grahamstanley |
12:13 |
#eltchat @nickkiley yes, and re. magazine subscription, now that the #ltsig has gone electronic it has fewer readers |
chucksandy |
12:13 |
@sandymillin: as a member of JALT I have input into the conference program, am an active member of some SIGs, lots of benefits #eltchat |
harrisonmike |
12:14 |
Don't forget Associate members of organisations like #IATEFL - can they always access knowledge and networking thru Twitter/blogs? #eltchat |
Marisa_C |
12:14 |
HI everyone and apologies can't make this #ELTchat - am in class observing - see u in the late night show! |
chucksandy |
12:14 |
RT @galactadon: TESOL works to get support for adjunct faculty, for ex, lobbies to get ed. friendly US legislation passed... #eltchat |
naomishema |
12:14 |
#eltchat I already support the national english ts organization. need to be a member to apply for a schoalrship to GET to a conference |
esolcourses |
12:14 |
@AlexandraKouk @sandymillin IMO, main benefits are F2F conferences, etc. Discount on conference fee usually > than cost 2 join #ELTChat |
Shaunwilden |
12:14 |
RT @barbsaka: @harrisonmike Good point, Mike. Only as good as contributions #IATEFL #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:14 |
@harrisonmike Good point, Mike. Only as good as contributions #IATEFL #eltchat |
fionamau |
12:14 |
Any idea why, recently, when I vote 4 #eltchat topics, I can see results piechart on the same page as the options to vote 4?Used 2 b hidden |
Shaunwilden |
12:15 |
RT @grahamstanley: @Shaunwilden in the past, the #iatefl #ltsig has produced a member-only publication (book, CD-ROM, etc) #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:15 |
RT @galactadon: Could we talk about what we WISH intl. teacher organizations provided, or too off topic? #eltchat Go 4 it, :-) |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:15 |
RT @galactadon: Could we talk about what we WISH intl. teacher organizations provided, or too off topic? #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:15 |
RT @CintiaStella: Hi everyone! I joined TESOL recently & attended 2 webinars that have already paid for my membership #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:15 |
@galactadon What would you like to see? #eltchat |
cintiastella |
12:15 |
Hi everyone! I joined TESOL recently & attended 2 webinars that have already paid for my membership #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:15 |
Sure! RT @galactadon: Could we talk about what we WISH intl. teacher organizations provided, or too off topic? #eltchat |
AlexandraKouk |
12:15 |
RT @esolcourses: @sandymillin IMO, main benefits R F2F conferences, etc. Discount on conference fee usually > than cost 2 join #ELTChat |
hartle |
12:15 |
RT @esolcourses: @AlexandraKouk @sandymillin IMO, main benefits are F2F conferences, etc. Discou... #ELTChat I agree |
galactadon |
12:15 |
Could we talk about what we WISH intl. teacher organizations provided, or too off topic? #eltchat |
harrisonmike |
12:16 |
How about the opportunity to speak at an international conference? Many cut their teeth at #IATEFL. #eltchat |
hartle |
12:16 |
I belong to #Iatefl, #eltchat and have met lots of people thu conferences, shared ideas etc. & I found eltchat this way |
gknightbkk |
12:16 |
A TESOL affiliate is banned in Vietnam because it's seen as a trade union, and there is already a state-run union for teachers #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:16 |
@cintiastella Wow, I like that idea a lot. Didn't know orgs were doing that. #eltchat |
esolcourses |
12:16 |
RT @Shaunwilden: RT @galactadon: Could we talk about what we WISH intl. teacher organizations provided #eltchat Go 4 it, :-) |
annabooklover |
12:17 |
RT @marekandrews: since Bill Lee founded IATEFL in 1967, it's helped our profession enormously+ it's great to be a part of it http://t.co/y4lAFXy #eltchat |
annabooklover |
12:17 |
Hello everyone #eltchat. From time to time I am a member of different teachers associations |
nickkiley |
12:17 |
#eltchat Is there an issue that smaller countries 'miss out' and form their own teaching groups to address local issues? |
grahamstanley |
12:17 |
RT @marekandrews: since Bill Lee founded IATEFL in 1967, it's helped our profession enormously+ it's great to be a part of it http://t.co/y4lAFXy #eltchat |
jefflebow |
12:17 |
@galactadon - all open content (journals/mags/proceedings) and more social media integration & archived presentations #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:17 |
@gknightbkk Does Vietnam lump IATEFL into the same group as TESOL? #eltchat |
marekandrews |
12:17 |
since Bill Lee founded IATEFL in 1967, it's helped our profession enormously+ it's great to be a part of it http://t.co/y4lAFXy #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:17 |
RT @harrisonmike: How about the opportunity to speak at an international conference? Many cut their teeth at #IATEFL. #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:18 |
RT @marekandrews since Bill Lee founded IATEFL in 1967 its helped our profession enormously... http://t.co/y4lAFXy #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:18 |
Here we have TEFLIN but even so, there aren't much thing to share as we're still struggling ourselves in daily basis #eltchat |
gknightbkk |
12:18 |
@barbsaka yes IATEFL is the same #eltchat |
galactadon |
12:18 |
It needs to be something pretty unique: there's a lot of great free ELT stuff available, and plenty of networking #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:18 |
@annabooklover from time to time? #eltchat |
esolcourses |
12:18 |
I would like to see less paper being sent out. Not very green. Don't need a bound copy of conf. abstracts. PDF is good enough #ELTChat |
analuisalozano |
12:18 |
RT @interactivecup: We have our new Interactive Teaching Tip out: http://ow.ly/5lE4f Make vocabulary lessons fun in the classroom! #ELTchat |
chucksandy |
12:19 |
@yitzha_sarwono: I loved the TEFLIN conference in Indonesia. What a great organization. I'm a member of that too ^^ #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:19 |
RT @sandymillin: Please don't forget the #eltchat hashtag! :) |
galactadon |
12:19 |
Maybe things that don't get done by the free folks for 1 reason or another (too expensive, too controversial, too complicated) #eltchat |
annabooklover |
12:19 |
I agree with what @marekandrews has just said about IATEFL but have to confess my membership expired and I haven't renewed it yet #eltchat |
hartle |
12:19 |
RT @esolcourses: I would like to see less paper...PDF is good enough #ELTChat Unfortunately not in Italy, for careers U need 3 copies |
sandymillin |
12:19 |
Please don't forget the #eltchat hashtag! :) |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:19 |
@nickkiley I found out about IATEFL and TESOL from first joining the local Ts assoc in Portugal. an important step at the time #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:19 |
@nickkiley True but then many smaller countries still do this under the umbrella of the bigger org #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:20 |
RT @hartle: Has anyone been to the TED conferences? > I have. Fantastic, but a different sort of organization. #eltchat |
KarenInGreece |
12:20 |
@galactadon It needs to be something pretty unique: there's a lot of great free ELT stuff available, and plenty of networking #eltchat Agree |
annabooklover |
12:20 |
RT @cintiastella: Being part of an international association gives me a sense of belonging and support. #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:20 |
RT @cintiastella: Being part of an international association gives me a sense of belonging and support. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:20 |
RT @cintiastella: Being part of an international association gives me a sense of belonging and support. #eltchat |
annabooklover |
12:20 |
The reason I let it lapse was primarily financial :( #eltchat |
hartle |
12:20 |
RT @underwoodsensei: Hey guys cn I join? I'm a member of a few: JALT, ETJ , gr8 way 2 meet teachers but sum ppl I know R put off by the fees #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:20 |
#eltchat @galactadon I think the #iatefl #ltsig should make journal content open, for example, like the TESL-EJ http://tinyurl.com/5sloxf4 |
hartle |
12:20 |
Has anyone been to the TED conferences? #eltchat |
underwoodsensei |
12:20 |
Hey guys cn I join? I'm a member of a few: JALT, ETJ , gr8 way 2 meet teachers but sum ppl I know R put off by the fees #eltchat |
galactadon |
12:20 |
sorry, I meant you can't just duplicate things that are already available for free #eltchat |
naomishema |
12:20 |
#eltchat member only publications R problem when not online - can't get an article that appeared there a year ago if not affiliated to univ! |
cintiastella |
12:20 |
Being part of an international association gives me a sense of belonging and support. #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:21 |
I get more from subscribing to a mag than joining an org. IMO, that shouldn't be #eltchat |
hartle |
12:21 |
RT @chucksandy: RT @hartle: ... Fantastic, but a different sort of organization. #eltchat yes but I'd love to go :-) |
KarenInGreece |
12:21 |
@annabooklover I did the same thing for the same reason #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:21 |
@underwoodsensei Always welcome! Thanks for jumping in! #eltchat |
esolcourses |
12:21 |
@hartle Oh, dear... Doesn't bode well good for the future of the planet. Sounds like time to get on board with the 21st century ;-) #ELTchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:21 |
@nickkiley @OUPELTGlobal such as? #eltchat |
galactadon |
12:21 |
Advocacy is a classic example of something the free people aren't going to do. But I'm not clear what these assocs do in advocacy #eltchat |
nickkiley |
12:21 |
@OUPELTGlobal @Shaunwilden #eltchat Good point, and then the larger org needs to provide sthg more |
sandymillin |
12:21 |
@underwoodsensei Anyone can join in with #eltchat if they want to :) |
hartle |
12:22 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: I #eltchat I think they're different. Assocs for meeting colleagues, sharing ideas etc. mags for exploration of ideas |
AlexandraKouk |
12:22 |
RT @annabooklover: @KarenInGreece Well living in Greece the last two years hasn't been easy... #eltchat >true! |
barbsaka |
12:22 |
Good one! RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat #iatefl sponsors conference speakers who otherwise couldn't afford to attend |
esolcourses |
12:22 |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat benefit that hasn't been mentioned so far: #iatefl sponsors speakers who otherwise couldn't afford to attend |
annabooklover |
12:22 |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat One benefit that hasn't been mentioned so far: #iatefl sponsors conference speakers who otherwise couldn't afford to attend |
sandymillin |
12:22 |
@grahamstanley although you don't necessarily have to be a member for some of the scholarships #eltchat #iatefl |
galactadon |
12:22 |
Networking can also be powerful if it is much more targeted and effective than the free version. For example #eltchat |
naomishema |
12:22 |
#eltchat my tesol sig deals with admirable advocacy plans but totally not relevant for me who doesn't teach in America! |
annabooklover |
12:22 |
@KarenInGreece Well living in Greece the last two years hasn't been easy... #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:22 |
#eltchat One benefit that hasn't been mentioned so far: #iatefl sponsors conference speakers who otherwise couldn't afford to attend |
CELT_Athens |
12:22 |
Voting now open for 22.06.2011 http://bit.ly/ijSSvA #ELTchat |
chucksandy |
12:23 |
RT @hartle: The great thing abt TED is the mix of people: visionaries, educators, scientists, business people. #eltchat |
KarenInGreece |
12:23 |
@AlexandraKouk @annabooklover Do either of you belong to any TA's in Greece? #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:23 |
RT @marekandrews: good to work in your local TA if you have one+then encourage people to see the benefits of hooking up with the big IATEFL #eltchat |
galactadon |
12:23 |
if you can put people in touch with each other who are very well matched, people who might otherwise not have found each other #eltchat |
marekandrews |
12:23 |
good to work in your local TA if you have one+then encourage people to see the benefits of hooking up with the big IATEFL #eltchat |
hartle |
12:23 |
RT @AlexandraKouk: RT @annabooklover: @KarenInGreece Well living in Greece the last two years hasn't been easy... #eltchat :-( cn imagine |
esolcourses |
12:23 |
RT @hartle: RT @OUPELTGlobal: I #eltchat think they're different. Assocs for meeting colleagues, sharing ideas/mags for exploration of ideas |
Shaunwilden |
12:23 |
@sandymillin No but then memberships fee etc do help fund so take that away then fewer places funded #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:23 |
@Shaunwilden I get the magazine and learn about topics, other people in EFL, I am encouraged to participate more indirectly #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:23 |
#eltchat @sandymillin yes, but if there weren't organisations, the grants wouldn't be there :-) |
naomishema |
12:23 |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat One benefit that hasn't been mentioned so far: #iatefl sponsors conference speakers who otherwise couldn't afford to attend |
KarenInGreece |
12:23 |
@annabooklover Tell me about it! :-) #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:24 |
#eltchat @chucksandy TED is a good model of a conference - people who can pay to attend pay for the free content online for those who can't |
BobK99 |
12:24 |
Late arrival - catching up.... #eltchat |
harrisonmike |
12:24 |
RT @barbsaka: Good one! RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat #iatefl sponsors conference speakers who otherwise couldn't afford to attend |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:24 |
RT @chucksandy: RT @hartle: The great thing abt TED is the mix of people: visionaries, educators, scientists, business people. #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:24 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: RT @cintiastella: Being part of an international association gives me a sense of belonging and support. #eltchat |
AlexandraKouk |
12:24 |
@KarenInGreece used to - can't afford it any more :-( #ELTChat |
barbsaka |
12:24 |
IATEFL offers gr8 free online coverage of conf. TESOL offers gr8 free online courses. Neither possible w/o member fees #eltchat |
hartle |
12:24 |
RT @chucksandy: RT @hartle: The great thing abt TED ..#eltchat RU going to next one? |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:24 |
@hartle I agree but I don't seem to get as much from organisations beyond the mag. Conferences are expensive, not for every1 #eltchat |
jefflebow |
12:24 |
#eltchat - speaking of environmentally friendly, I'd like to see more virtual conferences & workshops (e.g. EVO, WiAOC) - saves money & fuel |
Shaunwilden |
12:24 |
RT @harrisonmike: #eltchat, will leave u w a teaser: @iatefl will be more active on Twitter & Facebook & ther… (cont) http://deck.ly/~axV5A |
barbarabujtas |
12:24 |
Hi everyone! I'm a freelance private tutor, don't even have a staffroom, these groups are vital to me, that's where my PLN started #eltchat |
nickkiley |
12:24 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @nickkiley @OUPELTGlobal such as? #eltchat There's the ? Good to feel part of sthg bigger, but can they help local issues? |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:25 |
RT @barbsaka: IATEFL offers gr8 free online coverage of conf. TESOL offers gr8 free online courses. Neither possible w/o member fees #eltchat |
nickkiley |
12:25 |
#eltchat Do people have pref of IATEFL or TESOL, or down to location / needs? |
esolcourses |
12:25 |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat TED is a good model of a conference - people who can pay to attend pay /free content online for those who can't |
hartle |
12:25 |
RT @barbarabujtas: RT @barbsaka: IATEFL offers gr8 free online coverage of conf. TESOL offers gr8 free online courses. |
Shaunwilden |
12:25 |
RT @marekandrews: Being part of a teacher association as as teacher should be as normal as breathing air but we need to constantly work on it #eltchat |
cintiastella |
12:25 |
RT @barbsaka: IATEFL offers gr8 free online coverage of conf. TESOL offers gr8 free online courses. Neither possible w/o member fees #eltchat |
hartle |
12:25 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: @hartle I agree Conferences are expensive.. #eltchat True, depennds on situation, but I think Iatefl is investment |
barbarabujtas |
12:25 |
RT @barbsaka: IATEFL offers gr8 free online coverage of conf. TESOL offers gr8 free online courses. |
marekandrews |
12:25 |
Being part of a teacher association as as teacher should be as normal as breathing air but we need to constantly work on it #eltchat |
esolcourses |
12:25 |
@barbarabujtas same here. Felt very isolated before I started networking online #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:25 |
RT @barbsaka: IATEFLoffers gr8 free online coverage of conf. TESOL offers gr8 free online courses. Neither possible w/o member fees #eltchat |
naomishema |
12:25 |
#eltchat ASCD is a general teacher's org. membership MUCH cheaper but AWESOME webinars and a good magazine. many relevant things |
barbsaka |
12:26 |
@nickkiley I belong to both #iatefl and #tesol but here in Japan, most teachers belong to neither. They prefer #jalt #eltchat |
naomishema |
12:26 |
@OUPELTGlobal #eltchat haven't gone to one either. no grants! |
gknightbkk |
12:26 |
I believe a subscription to ELT Journal is a better investment than IATEFL membership in many parts of the world #eltchat |
AlexandraKouk |
12:26 |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat @chucksandy TED is a gd model of a conference - ppl who cn pay 2 attend pay 4 the free content online 4 those .. |
hartle |
12:26 |
RT @esolcourses: RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat TED people who can pay to attend pay /free content online for those who can't. Iatefl too |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:26 |
@naomishema I love ASCD even though I can't go to the confs! #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:26 |
RT @nickkiley: #eltchat Do people have pref of IATEFL or TESOL, or down to location / needs? I suspect it is location? |
naomishema |
12:26 |
RT @marekandrews: Being part of a teacher association as as teacher should be as normal as breathing air- have local TA for that! #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:27 |
@chucksandy #eltchat yes, you could say that about #iatefl online now - anyone can benefit from the online conference content |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:27 |
RT @gknightbkk: I believe a subscription to ELT Journal is a better invstmt thn IATEFL memship in many parts of the world #eltchat |
galactadon |
12:27 |
Do IATEFL or TESOL get involved when a govt. is trying to revamp English teaching in their country? #eltchat |
hartle |
12:27 |
IN Italy we have TESOL and Critish Council conferences, mainly 2nd school focus perhaps #eltchat |
KarenInGreece |
12:27 |
@annabooklover @AlexandraKouk What is PEKADE? I'd like to join TESOL-Mac/Thrace but I conferences are never close enough to get to #eltchat |
underwoodsensei |
12:27 |
Anyone heard about the educamps in America? looks pretty cool: http://bit.ly/klp2fY sometimes free, the teachers un-conference. #eltchat |
sandymillin |
12:27 |
@barbsaka online coverage of IATEFL Brighton conference was great. know fees needed for this, but why join? (devil's advocate) #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:27 |
#eltchat Another reason for being: if we are to be considered a profession, we need professional bodies such as #iatefl and #tesol |
chucksandy |
12:27 |
RT @grahamstanley: True abt TED It's 1 thing I like: every 1 benefits & gets access thanx to those who can pay including sponsors #eltchat |
marekandrews |
12:27 |
@barbarabujtas @barbsaka involving people in that online coverage is a great way of getting teachers to see the benefits of IATEFL #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:28 |
@sandymillin IATEFL is the 1 conf I make sure I can go to - yes expensive but the investment is worth it , so much to get out of it #eltchat |
marekandrews |
12:28 |
@sandymillin @barbsaka I think it's good to support +pay for things that you feel are valuable #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:28 |
@sandymillin I think in some ways, I pay now (because I can) so teachers who can't afford can benefit. Later, they pay it forward #eltchat |
hartle |
12:28 |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat Another reason for being: if we are to be considered a profession, we need professional bodies such as #iatefl and #tesol |
galactadon |
12:28 |
Serving as a sort of international reference of best practice, gathered from members, that would be great. #eltchat |
nickkiley |
12:28 |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat Another reason: if we are to be considered a profession, we need professional bodies such as #iatefl and #tesol |
luc_germain |
12:28 |
RT @Ilotimo: #Flickr for #Teachers & #Classrooms http://bit.ly/jGtv2k #edtech #edchat #eltchat #eduswe #ukedchat #cpchat #elemchat |
harrisonmike |
12:29 |
#eltchat RT @IateflPoland: @OUPELTGlobal @harrisonmike Your presentation skills are really tested at Iatefl conf w/ knowldgable audiences. |
esolcourses |
12:29 |
Know we've thrashed this one out b4, but I would like to see #IATEFL waive reg. fees for presenters who aren't funded by publishers #ELTChat |
sandymillin |
12:29 |
RT @marekandrews: @barbsaka Iit's good to support +pay for things that you feel are valuable #eltchat<me 2...(will pay whn can afford) |
chucksandy |
12:29 |
@grahamstanley I certainly benefited from IATELF's online conference offerings. It's fabulous. #eltchat |
galactadon |
12:29 |
A lot of professional bodies do certification, sometimes different levels of certification, and training #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:29 |
RT @nickkiley: #eltchat Maybe we need to make more of our membership - writing, sharing, setting up events locally - my new resolution |
marekandrews |
12:29 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @sandymillin IATEFL is the 1 conf I make sure I can go to - yes expensive but the investment is worth it , so much to get out of it #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:29 |
RT @marekandrews: @sandymillin @barbsaka I think it's good to support +pay for things that you feel are valuable #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:29 |
RT @nickkiley: #eltchat Maybe we need to make more of our membership - writing, sharing, setting up events locally - my new resolution |
hartle |
12:29 |
RT @sandymillin: @barbsaka online coverage of IATEFL Brighton . but why join? (devil's advocate) #eltchat Gd point but sprs have to join |
annabooklover |
12:29 |
@KarenInGreece PEKADE is an association for teachers of English in State Education. If you don't leave in Athens,not very useful...#eltchat |
nickkiley |
12:29 |
#eltchat Maybe we need to make more of our membership - writing, sharing, setting up events locally - my new resolution |
Shaunwilden |
12:30 |
RT @chucksandy: And we should say thank you to the ELT publishers who underwrite so much of the big conferences each year. Thank you! ^^ #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:30 |
And we should say thank you to the ELT publishers who underwrite so much of the big conferences each year. Thank you! ^^ #eltchat |
annabooklover |
12:30 |
What I love about associations is the events they organize. Be4 twitter and all the other soc. media they were indeed indispensable #eltchat |
mickstout |
12:30 |
@sandymillin It'd take too many tweets 2 explain all benefits I've enjoyed as member of #jalt. JALT is at the centre of my PLN #eltchat |
web20education |
12:30 |
RT @barbsaka: RT @nickkiley: #eltchat Maybe we need to make more of our membership - writing, sharing, setting up events locally - my new resolution |
esolcourses |
12:30 |
RT @Shaunwilden: I should of course mention that it is worth going to IATEFL in glasgow as #eltchat will be hosting a symposium :-) |
hartle |
12:30 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @sandymillin IATEFL is the 1 conf I make sure I can go to - yes expensive but the investment is worth #eltchat Absolutely |
sandymillin |
12:30 |
@OUPELTGlobal @naomishema What is ASCD? Not heard of them before #eltchat |
naomishema |
12:30 |
#eltchat - So many PLN members were enthusiastic about their Brighton IATEFL experience, REALLY made me dream of going! |
chucksandy |
12:30 |
RT @marekandrews: @sandymillin @barbsaka I think its good to support +pay for things that you feel are valuable > agree #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:30 |
RT @Shaunwilden: I should of course mention that it is worth going to IATEFL in glasgow as #eltchat will be hosting a symposium :-) |
Shaunwilden |
12:30 |
I should of course mention that it is worth going to IATEFL in glasgow as #eltchat will be hosting a symposium :-) |
hartle |
12:30 |
RT @marekandrews: @sandymillin @barbsaka I think it's good to support +pay for things that you feel are valuable #eltchat |
Berylaube |
12:30 |
RT @worldteacher: I love this tool for creating comic strips - popular with all ages: http://www.makebeliefscomix.com/ #eltchat #efl #esl |
galactadon |
12:31 |
professional bodies can have the role of quality assurance through certification and eventually revoking of certification #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:31 |
RT @Shaunwilden: I should of course mention that it is worth going to IATEFL in glasgow as #eltchat will be hosting a symposium :-) #eltchat |
naomishema |
12:31 |
@sandymillin #eltchat http://bit.ly/k36zQT ASCD link. really useful stuff - children are children, doesn't matter the subject we teach! |
hartle |
12:31 |
RT @nickkiley: #eltchat Maybe we need to make more of our membership ... I agree, & I think we do. Eltchat is gd example |
sandymillin |
12:31 |
@mickstout (Too many tweets) OK...what about sharing a couple though? :) #jalt #eltchat |
kansaslass02 |
12:31 |
RT @ShellTerrell: Challenges, PLN and Where They Have Taken Me http://bit.ly/iku9Wu by @CeciELT #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:32 |
@chucksandy right, you were here once for TEFLIN. in Malang right? #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:32 |
Yes, but with so much going on online now...? RT @annabooklover: What I love ...the events... B4 ... they were ...indispensable #eltchat |
barbarabujtas |
12:32 |
RT @galactadon: prof. bodies can have the role of quality assurance through certification and eventually revoking of certification #eltchat |
hartle |
12:32 |
RT @Shaunwilden: I should of course mention that it is worth going to IATEFL in glasgow as #eltchat will be hosting a symposium :-) |
cintiastella |
12:32 |
I loved the online coverage of IATEFL but when I watched it I felt I was missing a lot and wanted to be there. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:32 |
We should also remember that most ppl who help run these organisationa are volunteers #eltchat |
naomishema |
12:32 |
@hartle #eltchat - how is eltchat a good example? we participate without being members... |
hartle |
12:32 |
RT @esolcourses: Know we've thrashed this one out b4, but I would like to see #IATEFL waive reg. fees for ... #ELTChat Wd be nice |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:33 |
ASCD - Assoc. for Supervision and Curriculum Development - great practical ideas for general education #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:33 |
#eltchat what we have to remember too is that #iatefl and other TAs are largely what the members make it... |
sandymillin |
12:33 |
My mum's a member of CILIP 4 librarians and CIM 4 managers - both offer fellowships if you create a portfolio. Do ELT orgs do this? #eltchat |
hartle |
12:33 |
RT @naomishema: #eltchat - Maybe you cn get funding 2 go to Glasow |
gknightbkk |
12:33 |
@mickstout How has JALT benefitted from being a TESOL and IATEFL affiliate? #eltchat |
cintiastella |
12:34 |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat what we have to remember 2 is that #iatefl and other TAs are largely what the members make it > Agree! #eltchcat |
barbsaka |
12:34 |
Curious. Do you know of other professions that question whether or not to join their related organizations as much as teachers do? #eltchat |
annabooklover |
12:34 |
@grahamstanley I think they have to offer more if they want to persuade us to join them #eltchat |
sandymillin |
12:34 |
RT @Shaunwilden: I should of course mention that it is worth going to IATEFL in glasgow as #eltchat will be hosting a symposium :-) |
marekandrews |
12:34 |
IATEFL+its associates have become themost valuable organisation we have 4 developing ideas in ELT+to involve more people's our task #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:34 |
#eltchat the driving force of #iatefl and other TAs are the volunteers and the volunteers shape what the association is |
galactadon |
12:34 |
@Shaunwilden Possibility of voluneerism could be considered a benefit or a down side to membership #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:34 |
@yitzha_sarwono: yes I presented at TEFLIN in Malang Indonesia. Fab conference. I've since joined TEFLIN in support of their work #eltchat |
naomishema |
12:34 |
@hartle #eltchat - I'll apply for the year after. Glasgow doesn't coincide with school holiday |
Shaunwilden |
12:34 |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat what we have to remember too is that #iatefl and other TAs are largely what the members make it... |
sandymillin |
12:34 |
RT @naomishema: @sandymillin #eltchat http://bit.ly/k36zQT ASCD link. really useful stuff - children are children, doesn't matter the subject we teach! |
naomishema |
12:35 |
RT @chucksandy: to all who were at IATEFL 2010: did u find the conf more meaningful now that you know so many people via your PLN? #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:35 |
to all who were at IATEFL 2010: did u find the conf more meaningful now that you know so many people via your PLN? #eltchat |
naomishema |
12:35 |
@barbsaka #eltchat at least locally I don't know of other subjects that have such organizations! |
hartle |
12:35 |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat what we have to remember too is that #iatefl and other TAs are largely what the members make it... |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:35 |
I feel TAs have to offer more than the conf. esp in today's tech age. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:35 |
@galactadon Never seen it as either - what would be the downside? #eltchat |
hartle |
12:35 |
RT @naomishema: @hartle #eltchat - how is... example? Coz I found eltchat after going to Iatefl. U hear abt so many invaluable things there |
grahamstanley |
12:35 |
@annabooklover offer more... I agree. But what would you like to see offered? #eltchat |
WarwickLinguist |
12:35 |
RT @NATECLA: "@EnglishOutThere: 100 language learning sites #esl #elt #tefl #efl #esol #elearning #tesol #eltchat http://bit.ly/liAG8r" |
lu_bodeman |
12:35 |
RT @BrunoELT: i-rEFLect on: EFL Ts needed - no exp necessary. http://bit.ly/mBSmsg #breltchat #eltchat #efl #tefl #esol #tesol pls comment |
grahamstanley |
12:36 |
#eltchat I didn't make the connection myself until I was on a SIG Committee - we can change what is offered |
Shaunwilden |
12:36 |
@chucksandy For me that is the added bonus but there is so much more - talks, networking, displays etc etc #eltchat |
marekandrews |
12:36 |
organising small events like reading books,watching films, going for walks,watching a classroom vid are all ways of involving t's #eltchat |
KarenInGreece |
12:36 |
@CintiaStella I loved the online coverage of IATEFL but when I watched it I felt I was missing a lot and wanted to be there #eltchat Me too! |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:36 |
@grahamstanley webinars, use of twitter, a blog with more updates that I get in the mag, for example #eltchat |
galactadon |
12:36 |
@barbsaka I'd guess that most public school teachers in many countries are unionized. In that case unions have a clear benefit #eltchat |
annabooklover |
12:36 |
@grahamstanley For example what IATEFL does, offering discounts to other publications I think is a good idea #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:37 |
@Shaunwilden: well I love conferences for those reasons: networking, displays, talks etc Seems I'm always at some conference ^^ #eltchat |
hartle |
12:37 |
RT @chucksandy: to all who were at IATEFL 2010: did u find the conf more meaningful...? #eltchat No coz only discovered PLNs in harrogate |
cintiastella |
12:37 |
@barbsaka Yes, travel agents associations (which I used to belong to in the past) High fees and few benefits #eltchat |
annabooklover |
12:37 |
@chucksandy It was my first IATEFL conference but I yes I enjoyed it much more because I knew so many people #eltchat |
nickkiley |
12:37 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: @grahamstanley webinars, use of twitter, a blog with more updates that I get in the mag, for example #eltchat Yes |
chucksandy |
12:37 |
RT @barbsaka: I find PTA works the same way: lots of parents hesitant to join for whatever reason. Not a professional org but.... #eltchat |
sandymillin |
12:38 |
@barbsaka Yes - librarians often questions joining CILIP - same reason...don't see benefits #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:38 |
@nickkiley good to hear this - we are going to be offering all of this now in the #iatefl #ltsig #eltchat |
AlexandraKouk |
12:38 |
RT @hartle: It wd be nice to see more meetings, discussions etc. in Second Life #eltchat > agree! |
barbsaka |
12:38 |
Cool! RT @hartle: It wd be nice to see more meetings, discussions etc. in Second Life #eltchat |
AnaCristinaPrts |
12:38 |
RT @cintiastella: Being part of an international association gives me a sense of belonging and support. #eltchat |
hartle |
12:38 |
It wd be nice to see more meetings, discussions etc. in Second Life #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:38 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: ASCD - Assoc. for Supervision and Curriculum Development - great practical ideas for general education #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:39 |
@galactadon It's the person choice isnt it? I have time, I want to do sth etc -I cant see that being a bad thing #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:39 |
RT @galactadon: When association has no obvious benefit, or benefits which can be obtained without joining, people do question it. #eltchat |
hartle |
12:39 |
RT @AlexandraKouk:t wd be nice to see more meetings, discussi.. #eltchat Maybe we shd organise something #Ds #eltchat 2nd Life exist? |
mickstout |
12:39 |
@gknightbkk Again 2 difficult 2 explain in a tweet & I'd bet #TESOL & #IATEFL have benefitted from affiliations w/ #jalt too ;-) #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:39 |
RT @AnaCristinaPrts: RT @cintiastella: Being part of an international association gives me a sense of belonging and support. #eltchat |
galactadon |
12:39 |
It's when the association has no obvious benefit, or has benefits which can be obtained without joining, people do question it. #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:39 |
RT @hartle: It wd be nice to see more meetings, discussions etc. in Second Life #eltchat |
marekandrews |
12:39 |
having not only sig events round the world but also the big IATEFL in other countries wd do alot to boost its accessibility #eltchat |
kjenningselt |
12:39 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: 16 creative ways to use songs in the classroom http://oxford.ly/mGJ6Mn via @busyteacher_org #eltchat #edchat |
hartle |
12:40 |
RT @naomishema: #eltchat our local conference (next month) is in high-school classrooms to keep price VERY low but a lot less ... Why? |
chucksandy |
12:40 |
wouldn't it be great if some who usually go to IATEFL went to TESOL & vice versa & all of you: please come to JALT in Japan ^^ #eltchat |
BobK99 |
12:40 |
RT @barbsaka: ...other professions that question wh or not to join their related organizations as much as teachers do? #eltchat !Gd Qn |
naomishema |
12:40 |
#eltchat our local conference (next month) is in high-school classrooms to keep price VERY low but a lot less teachers come than 9 ys ago! |
sandymillin |
12:41 |
RT @marekandrews: having the big IATEFL in other countries wd do alot to boost its accessibility #eltchat <yes! very UK-centric atm |
AlexandraKouk |
12:41 |
@hartle #ELTchat lots of ELTchaters have avatars :-) |
Shaunwilden |
12:41 |
RT @galactadon: #eltchat TEFL is a very fragmented field - many employers, certifications, locations. If asso… (cont) http://deck.ly/~C8aD2 |
barbsaka |
12:41 |
@hartle @AlexandraKouk There is #slanguages conference in 2nd life http://bit.ly/lvHYlQ #eltchat |
hartle |
12:41 |
How is TESOL different from #Iatefl I've never been to TESOL #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:41 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: In essence, why does an org like IATEFL exist? what is its aim? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:41 |
RT @grahamstanley: @barbsaka #eltchat no, but then teahers are prob critical thinkers :-) And have less money than other professionals :-( |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:41 |
In essence, why does an org like IATEFL exist? what is its aim? #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:42 |
@jefflebow Haha :-) #eltchat |
jefflebow |
12:42 |
... just have to say, this is a much more accessible and interesting topic than lexical grammar #eltchat |
hartle |
12:42 |
RT @barbsaka: #slanguages conference in 2nd life http://bit.ly/lvHYlQ #eltchat, I know it ws gr8t but I meant a reg meeting like this |
annabooklover |
12:42 |
@chucksandy That would be a fantastic opportunity to visit Japan, but I don't even want to consider travel costs...#eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:42 |
i learn A LOT abt what's going on in ELT around the world by joining natl assns & attending their conferences when possible. #eltchat |
analuisalozano |
12:42 |
RT @esolcourses: RT @Shaunwilden: I should of course mention that it is worth going to IATEFL in glasgow as #eltchat will be hosting a sympo |
naomishema |
12:42 |
@hartle #eltchat - teachers are less ready to go on vacation time, out of their own pocket even if very cheap. some look at me oddly ... |
hartle |
12:43 |
RT @chucksandy: wouldn't it be great if some who usually go to IATEFL please come to JALT .. #eltchat I'd love to if I cd get funding??? |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:43 |
RT @barbsaka: @hartle Mainly #Iatefl is UK-based and #tesol is USA-based, altho both are international #eltchat |
AlexandraKouk |
12:43 |
RT @jefflebow: ... just have to say, this is a much more accessible and interesting topic than lexical grammar #eltchat >lol |
barbsaka |
12:43 |
@hartle Mainly #Iatefl is UK-based and #tesol is USA-based, altho both are international #eltchat |
eyespeakbrasil |
12:43 |
The Problem of Pedagogy in a Web 2.0 era - a good read! http://bit.ly/kY9gp2 #edtech #besig #tesol #eltchat |
hartle |
12:44 |
RT @naomishema: @hartle #eltchat - teachers are less ready to go...some look at me oddly ... Hmm tht happens to me all the time lol |
annabooklover |
12:44 |
About TESOL and IATEFL: On the bus from Harrogate to London, met old American couple who praised IATEFL against TESOL practices #eltchat |
naomishema |
12:44 |
#eltchat The TESOL conference was an amazing experience but it feels VERY American -thier advocacy needs & acronyms & a lot of ESL not EFL |
chucksandy |
12:44 |
RT @annabooklover: submit a proposal for JALT 2012 & start looking for funding options. They're available ^^ #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:44 |
RT @grahamstanley: @chucksandy #eltchat definitely - Twitter / PLN is the ice breaker - when u meet u can have more meaningful conversations |
DinaDobrou |
12:44 |
RT @CELT_Athens: Voting now open for 22.06.2011 http://bit.ly/ijSSvA #ELTchat > Excited to see my choice ranks first. Hope it stays so! |
Shaunwilden |
12:45 |
RT @grahamstanley: @sandymillin #eltchat This often comes up at #iatefl SIG meetings -> the idea of holding the conference abroad |
naomishema |
12:45 |
@marekandrews #eltchat being involved in local T/A doens't help much for int. because of the steep price! |
grahamstanley |
12:45 |
@sandymillin #eltchat usually what is cited is that for a successful conference that big, you need a big team involved locally |
AlexandraKouk |
12:45 |
RT @galactadon: @OUPELTGlobal Possible aims: professionalizing TEFL, pushing govts. 2 implement best practices, networking... #eltchat |
hartle |
12:45 |
RT @jefflebow: ... just have to say,...accessible and interesting topic than lexical grammar #eltchat How dare U?? |
annabooklover |
12:45 |
@hartle @naomishema This thing with odd looks? It happens to me too! #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:45 |
RT @marekandrews: @chucksandy getting people involved in those local organisations is a gr8 way of then getting people tosee what the big IATEFL does #eltchat |
galactadon |
12:45 |
@OUPELTGlobal Possible aims: professionalizing TEFL, pushing govts. to implement best practices, networking for members... #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:45 |
RT @barbsaka: Unless you teach at a university w/funding for conference travel, attending Int'l conf can be very spendy :) #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:45 |
Unless you teach at a university w/funding for conference travel, attending Int'l conf can be very spendy :) #eltchat |
marekandrews |
12:45 |
@chucksandy getting people involved in those local organisations is a gr8 way of then getting people tosee what the big IATEFL does #eltchat |
gknightbkk |
12:46 |
@OUPELTGlobal Have you read the IATEFL Mission & Vision? Needs work. #eltchat http://t.co/ts7Xryf |
annabooklover |
12:46 |
RT @cintiastella: I believe it's up to us to make the most of the membership to these associations, and turn the expense into a worthwhile investment #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:46 |
RT @cintiastella: I believe it's up to us to make the most of the membership to these associations, and turn the expense into a worthwhile investment #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:46 |
@hartle @jefflebow Now now no fighting :-) #eltchat |
annabooklover |
12:46 |
@chucksandy I'll definetely do that! Thanks! #eltchat |
cintiastella |
12:46 |
I believe it's up to us to make the most of the membership to these associations, and turn the expense into a worthwhile investment #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:46 |
@galactadon I like the networking for members but don't see a lot of it at the moment. #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:47 |
#eltchat @annabooklover ...most talks are publisher or university sponsored - not so many individual speakers (=less choice) |
galactadon |
12:47 |
More possible aims: awarding best in class resources (could turn off publishers), standardized tchr certification & training, #eltchat |
hartle |
12:47 |
RT @chucksandy: RT @grahamstanley: and for Ts new to the profession getting involved in assns locally is a great way to learn & can lead to more #eltchat |
marekandrews |
12:47 |
one reason we need IATEFL for critical discussion is that it should ensure that the pedagogical interests lead the commercial ones #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:47 |
RT @marekandrews: @chucksandy getting people involved in those local organisations is a gr8 way of then getting people tosee what the big IATEFL does #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:47 |
RT @grahamstanley: and for Ts new to the profession getting involved in assns locally is a great way to learn & can lead to more #eltchat |
barbarabujtas |
12:47 |
RT @cintiastella:its up to us to make the most of the membership to these assocs, and turn the expense into a worthwhile investment #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:47 |
#eltchat @annabooklover I have been to #tesol conference - it's much bigger than #iatefl but expense means ... |
hartle |
12:47 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @hartle @jefflebow Now now no fighting :-) #eltchat All in fun :-) |
underwoodsensei |
12:47 |
RT @chucksandy: i learn A LOT abt ELT by joining natl assns & attending conferences: I agree, only bn to 3 & learnt a lot #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:47 |
I should say I really get a lot from being IATEFL member, personally, but question it to local state school EFL Teachers #eltchat |
vickyloras |
12:47 |
RT @DinaDobrou: RT @CELT_Athens: Voting now open for 22.06.2011 http://bit.ly/ijSSvA #ELTchat > Excited to see my choice ranks first. Hope it stays so! |
gknightbkk |
12:48 |
@marekandrews Does that occur in Conference? #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:48 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @OUPELTGlobal I probably agree but then they get sth out of their local IATEFL conferences? #eltchat |
marekandrews |
12:48 |
@OUPELTGlobal local state school teachers can be involved locally in small-scale events organised by the local IATEFL #eltchat |
AnaCristinaPrts |
12:48 |
RT @barbsaka: Unless you teach at a university w/funding for conference travel, attending Int'l conf can be very spendy :) #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:48 |
@OUPELTGlobal I probably agree but then they get sth out of their local IATEFL conferences? #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:48 |
RT @barbsaka Unless you teach at a university w/funding for conference travel, attending Int'l conf can be very spendy :) #eltchat >> true |
Shaunwilden |
12:49 |
@sandymillin Well they do in Czech :-) #eltchat |
hartle |
12:49 |
RT @chucksandy: @AnaCristinaPrts @barbsaka: but there's funding avail for intl conf: scholarships, sponsorships etc. Have to put in the effort #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:49 |
@AnaCristinaPrts @barbsaka: but there's funding avail for intl conf: scholarships, sponsorships etc. Have to put in the effort #eltchat |
sandymillin |
12:49 |
RT @marekandrews: @OUPELTGlobal local state school teachers...small-scale events organised by the local IATEFL #eltchat<assuming they exist |
galactadon |
12:49 |
So many conferences are the same (in any field): those who have a reason to present and money to attend are selling something #eltchat |
annabooklover |
12:49 |
@grahamstanley Thanks for this clarification Graham! #eltchat |
hartle |
12:49 |
RT @yitzha_sarwono: RT @barbsaka ...#eltchat >> even if U R teaching at a unviersity funding is becoming rarer these days |
EnglishOutThere |
12:49 |
Changing Education Paradigms (vid) #esl #elt #tefl #efl #esol #elearning #tesol #eltchat #iatefl #studyenglish http://bit.ly/jCKVgw |
jasonoutthere |
12:49 |
Changing Education Paradigms (vid) #esl #elt #tefl #efl #esol #elearning #tesol #eltchat #iatefl #studyenglish http://bit.ly/jCKVgw |
hartle |
12:50 |
#eltchat TAs in Italy more for school owners whereas sm very active ones in Germany at local levels |
barbsaka |
12:50 |
We have about 10 minutes left. If you are not a member of prof org, or have waffled, what sort of value would get you to join? #eltchat |
cintiastella |
12:50 |
RT @marekandrews: we need to develop a sense of ownership+belonging so that IATEFL is part of our identity like our family+our workplace #eltchat |
annabooklover |
12:50 |
RT @marekandrews: we need to develop a sense of ownership+belonging so that IATEFL is part of our identity like our family+our workplace #eltchat |
marekandrews |
12:50 |
we need to develop a sense of ownership+belonging so that IATEFL is part of our identity like our family+our workplace #eltchat |
JoHart |
12:50 |
@ScienceMum Hmm! not sure I agree - I certainly tap in easily to #edchat & #ELTchat because they both have more than one time to cross TZs |
englishraven |
12:50 |
@JoHart #edchatau would interfere with the regular #edchat hashtag (we had similar probs w/ #eltchat and #eltchatbr). That's why consult! :) |
sandymillin |
12:51 |
@barbsaka Planning to join IATEFL for conference, but if I wasn't, would want a lot more than just networking (can get that here) #eltchat |
hartle |
12:51 |
RT @chucksandy: i love teachers who spend their vacations attending and often presenting at intl conferences ^^ Three cheers for you! #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:51 |
i love teachers who spend their vacations attending and often presenting at intl conferences ^^ Three cheers for you! #eltchat |
web20education |
12:51 |
RT @CathyLAnderson: 200+ Great Photoshop Web Design Tutorials - tripwire magazine http://ht.ly/5mDPh #eltchat |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:51 |
Some schools send a few teachers who then feed back to the school. Maybe IATEFL should encourage that more? #eltchat |
Kyung_Ahn |
12:51 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: 16 creative ways to use songs in the classroom http://oxford.ly/mGJ6Mn via @busyteacher_org #eltchat #edchat |
galactadon |
12:52 |
@barbsaka If the organization offered a very well-recognized certification (helpful in getting work, or promoted) #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:52 |
@sandymillin Like what? What would you consider the "more" that you're looking for? #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:52 |
& i love teachers who spend their weekends & evenings organizing conferences that benefit all of us. Three cheers for you too! #eltchat |
hartle |
12:52 |
RT @grahamstanley: #eltchat I think #iatefl offers lots of scholarship grants: http://tinyurl.com/668bfkv - the #ltsig will be of… (cont) http://deck.ly/~bueRO |
naomishema |
12:52 |
#eltchat Do presenters pay less at int. conferences? ours is so "poor" that presenters pay full price and for handouts! |
jefflebow |
12:52 |
@hartle a bow of respect to grammarians amongst us. I'm but a simple webcaster & pd orgs make for great streaming possibilities :) #eltchat |
marekandrews |
12:52 |
@barbsaka being connected to a vibrant profession full of generous people who like sharing+care enough tomake our profession better #eltchat |
grahamstanley |
12:52 |
#eltchat I think #iatefl offers lots of scholarship grants: http://tinyurl.com/668bfkv - the #ltsig will be of… (cont) http://deck.ly/~bueRO |
annabooklover |
12:52 |
RT @chucksandy: i love teachers who spend their vacations attending and often presenting at intl conferences ^^ Three cheers for you! #eltchat |
hartle |
12:52 |
#eltchat I love the #Iatefl SIGs too. I learned so much frm 2010 preconference technology conference :-) |
AnaCristinaPrts |
12:52 |
RT @chucksandy: i love teachers who spend their vacations attending and often presenting at intl conferences ^^ Three cheers for you! #eltchat |
mistergesl |
12:52 |
RT @stopspanglish-Great lesson, very helpful: STOP SPANGLISH: One way to remember participle adjectives http://t.co/ONL9RI3 #eltchat #tesol |
mickstout |
12:53 |
@chucksandy Hold on a minute here, vacations AREN'T for attending conferences & presenting? #eltchat |
galactadon |
12:53 |
If the organization offered me as a teacher a chance to help defining the best practices in ELT, for use by governements, the EU... #eltchat |
LauraAustinNow |
12:53 |
#eltchat SIGs are so important as there's such range of interests |
sandymillin |
12:53 |
@barbsaka the more I'm looking for>part of the problem...not 100% sure (sound like SS!)>would have 2c v clearly how it helps me #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:53 |
btw, already really excited abt attending my first international IATEFL conference next year in Glasgow! ^^ #eltchat |
hartle |
12:53 |
RT @jefflebow: @hartle a bow of respect to grammarians amongst us. I'm but a simple webcaster & pd orgs.... #eltchat :-D |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:53 |
I think its important to remember most people working in org sare volunteering. #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:54 |
RT @mickstout: weren't you doing just that this spring in Greece -- attending and presenting during your vacation? ^^ #eltchat |
web20education |
12:54 |
#Gapminder: Unveiling the beauty of statistics for a fact based world view #edtech20 #edchat #iste11 #eltchat #elemchat http://t.co/N99sZvF |
BobK99 |
12:54 |
@barbsaka I'm a [possibly lapsed - subs well overdue) of IfL. IATEFL is a poss., but work's so sparse it doesn't justify the cost. #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:54 |
I know that IATEFL and JALT officers are/will be reading this chat (and TESOL ought to be). Your chance to voice what you need :-) #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:54 |
@barbsaka would <3 more info about teaching (especially material),more network ,n the chance to be heard by our government #eltchat |
annabooklover |
12:54 |
Battery is going down! Thanks for another thought provoking #eltchat |
hartle |
12:54 |
RT @galactadon: @barbsaka If the organization offered a well-recognized certification...#eltchat If U present it's generally gs for this |
elflearning |
12:55 |
@LauraAustinNow Completely agreed. SIGs rock. #eltchat |
cintiastella |
12:55 |
Maybe we should not think so much about what the assoc will do for me but what I can do with the assoc #eltchat |
hartle |
12:55 |
#eltchat I'd like more discussion based sessions at conferences, rather thn traditional formats. Networking and sharing really gd |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:55 |
Couldn't IATEFL offer an opportunity like eltchat? as a regular feature? #eltchat |
sandymillin |
12:55 |
RT @galactadon: @barbsaka If the organization offered a very well-recognized certification (helpful in getting work, or promoted) #eltchat |
marekandrews |
12:56 |
ask not what IATEFL can do for you - ask what you can do for IATEFL:) + then the payback is enormous. #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:56 |
@gknightbkk Well put :) #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:56 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: Cldnt IATEFL offer an opportunity like eltchat? > why doesn't IATELF just get involved in eltchat? no need 4 more #eltchat |
BobK99 |
12:56 |
RT @BobK99: @barbsaka I'm a [possibly lapsed...) MEMBER of IfL. IATEFL is a poss., but wk's so sparse it doesn't justify the cost. #eltchat |
nickkiley |
12:56 |
RT @CintiaStella: Maybe we should not think so much about what the assoc will do for me but what I can do with the assoc #eltchat AGreed |
sandymillin |
12:56 |
RT @chucksandy: btw, already really excited abt attending my first international IATEFL conference next year in Glasgow! ^^ #eltchat <me2! |
gknightbkk |
12:56 |
@barbsaka I want to be part of the global tribe. We have a shared interest but an ineffective means of communicating. #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:56 |
@mickstout well that is why @chucksandy is the man! He won't mins spending his holiday even for those things :) #eltchat |
sandymillin |
12:56 |
@galactadon Certification<very good point! This is what CILIP offers librarians http://bit.ly/iLqDW8 #eltchat |
barbarabujtas |
12:56 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: Couldnt IATEFL offer an opportunity like eltchat? as a regular feature? #eltchat |
barbsaka |
12:56 |
@OUPELTGlobal But there's already #eltchat Don't really need a duplicate :) |
galactadon |
12:56 |
If the organizatn helped me find not just other teachers (can do that free), but people like me through a targeted matching system #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:56 |
@OUPELTGlobal There have been discussions #eltchat |
esolcourses |
12:57 |
RT @barbsaka: RT @Shaunwilden: @barbarabujtas @OUPELTGlobal In glasgow we plan to have #eltchat live from the conference |
barbsaka |
12:57 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @barbarabujtas @OUPELTGlobal In glasgow we plan to have #eltchat live from the conference |
Shaunwilden |
12:57 |
@barbarabujtas @OUPELTGlobal In glasgow we plan to have #eltchat live from the conference |
OUPELTGlobal |
12:57 |
@barbarabujtas Good point, but an org could really get more people involved, no? #eltchat |
hartle |
12:57 |
RT @chucksandy: RT @OUPELTGlobal: Cldnt IATEFL offer an opportunity like eltchat? > why doesn't IATELF just get involved in eltchat? no need 4 more #eltchat |
lyddiebird |
12:57 |
RT @WarwickLinguist: RT @NATECLA: "@EnglishOutThere: 100 language learning sites #esl #elt #tefl #efl #esol #elearning #tesol #eltchat http://bit.ly/liAG8r" |
yitzha_sarwono |
12:58 |
@hartle @barbsaka really? wow, I think in Indonesia a lecturer has more benefit than those who aren't in regarding funding #eltchat |
hartle |
12:58 |
RT @CintiaStella: @chucksandy The fact that you'll be at IATEFL next year is sufficient reason for me to go! #eltchat agreed :-) |
grahamstanley |
12:58 |
RT @Shaunwilden: @barbarabujtas @OUPELTGlobal In glasgow we plan to have #eltchat live from the conference |
barbsaka |
12:58 |
What I like about #eltchat is that it belongs to teachers (bottom up). Don't know if I'd get as excited if it were IATEFL chat or TESOL chat |
cintiastella |
12:58 |
@chucksandy The fact that you'll be at IATEFL next year is sufficient reason for me to go! #eltchat |
hartle |
12:58 |
RT @barbsaka: RT @Shaunwilden: @barbarabujtas @OUPELTGlobal In glasgow we plan to have #eltchat live from the conference Gr8t |
chucksandy |
12:58 |
@OUPELTGlobal: Good point, but an org could really get more people involved, no? > I don't think so. We're doing just fine ^^ #eltchat |
chucksandy |
12:59 |
RT @barbsaka: What I like is that it belongs to teachers (bottom up). < yes! #eltchat |
AlexandraKouk |
12:59 |
RT @chucksandy: @OUPELTGlobal 2 tell U the truth, I think organizational sponsorship wld ruin eltchat. It wld certainly change it. #eltchat |
hartle |
12:59 |
RT @yitzha_sarwono: @hartle @barbsaka really? wow, I think in Indonesia a lecturer has more benefit ..#eltchat Maybe I shd move to Indonesia |
barbsaka |
12:59 |
@barbarabujtas Do what? Live chat? #eltchat |
fionamau |
12:59 |
RT @marekandrews: the more we work on local networking and put effort into that the more people will benefit from teacher associations #eltchat |
fionamau |
12:59 |
RT @barbsaka: What I like about #eltchat is that it belongs to teachers (bottom up). Don't know if I'd get as excited if it were IATEFL chat or TESOL chat |
barbarabujtas |
12:59 |
@hartle @barbsaka @Shaunwilden @barbarabujtas @OUPELTGlobal We'll do that in Budapest, then thx |
chucksandy |
12:59 |
@OUPELTGlobal to tell you the truth, I think organizational sponsorship would ruin eltchat. It would certainly change it. #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
12:59 |
RT @marekandrews: the more we work on local networking and put effort into that the more people will benefit from teacher associations #eltchat |
sandymillin |
12:59 |
RT @barbsaka: What I like about #eltchat is that it belongs to teachers (bottom up). Don't know if I'd get as excited if it were IATEFL chat or TESOL chat |
LukeMeddings |
12:59 |
RT @marekandrews: we need to develop a sense of ownership+belonging so that IATEFL is part of our identity like our family+our workplace #eltchat |
hartle |
12:59 |
RT @barbsaka: What I like about #eltchat is that it belongs to teachers (bottom up). Don't know if I'd get as excited if it were IATEFL chat or TESOL chat |
marekandrews |
12:59 |
the more we work on local networking and put effort into that the more people will benefit from teacher associations #eltchat |
galactadon |
13:00 |
@Shaunwilden @barbsaka thanks for moderating today's #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
13:00 |
@naomishema Not at iatefl #eltchat |
naomishema |
13:00 |
RT @OUPELTGlobal: If I were working for an org, this format would be a great benefit for members. Congrats to those who started eltchat! #eltchat |
yitzha_sarwono |
13:00 |
RT @barbsaka: What I like about #eltchat is that it belongs to teachers (bottom up). Don't know if I'd get as excited if it were IATEFL chat or TESOL chat |
barbarabujtas |
13:00 |
@barbsaka yep |
Shaunwilden |
13:00 |
@marekandrews You have a good habit of saying sth very wise to almost act as a conclusion to #eltchat each week, thanks :-) |
OUPELTGlobal |
13:00 |
If I were working for an org, this format would be a great benefit for members. Congrats to those who started eltchat! #eltchat |
naomishema |
13:00 |
#eltchat did I miss the answer? is there a discount for speakers at int. conferences? |
grahamstanley |
13:00 |
Got to go to a f2f conference now -thanks for another great #eltchat - I am going to make sure the #iatefl SIG and HQ gets to read this one |
barbarabujtas |
13:00 |
RT @barbsaka: @barbarabujtas YEp :) |
mistergesl |
13:00 |
I just learned waht Dogme is! --Dogme? http://t.co/EzYXLCG #eltchat #tesol #teachingenglish |
cherrymp |
13:00 |
TESOL Quarterly vol. 45 no. 2 (June 2011) TOC http://bit.ly/jmhmWZ #eltchat #esl #efl #tefl #tesl #esol |
hartle |
13:01 |
Thanks everyone for a good chat, and thanks to our moderators, as efficient as ever. :-) #eltchat |
Shaunwilden |
13:01 |
Ern usual question....anyone fancy doing the summary? #eltchat |
sandymillin |
13:01 |
RT @galactadon: @Shaunwilden @barbsaka thanks for moderating today's #eltchat |
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